/#/ - Numbers Thread

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Previously >>49271821

[Anonymous No.]

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://www.hololive-songs.com/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber
>https://www.nijiuta.com/

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

[Anonymous No.]

>>49279527
Rank them in regards to how much do they love their fanbase
>Kiara
>IRyS
>Fauna
>Mumei
>Bae

[Anonymous No.]

use the proper OP pic since ballsaction won

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>>49279574
define "love" in this context

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>>49279073
This is from the same company who would try to present to investors that watarai hibari, a graduate from VTA in July 2022 has got 110k and earned 70k+ on his 3D debut, omitting the part where akina, fuwa, toko was there to sing with him along with a 3D band.

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>>49279679
Remove the reclining owl

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>>49279574
Pointless. They all do this as a job and you will never get a true accurate gauge of how much is sincere and how much is the character they play on stream.

[Anonymous No.]

whats gold for tomorrow?

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>>49279722
More like remove the lazy whore shark

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>>49279722
>>49279797
how about you 2 remove yourselves from this (minecraft) world?

[Anonymous No.]

GRIM

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>>49279679
Remove eddy gf

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>>49279776
Miload Karaoke

[Anonymous No.]

what's she doing?

[Anonymous No.]

>woke up to myth losing to lisa's 3d
dare i say reclining branch

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>>49279630
Appreciate, treasure and feel some sort of affection (not necessary too intimate) for their fans.

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>>49279776
Mel 3d live is there any other competition?

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>>49279912
Just wait for tempus 3D

[Anonymous No.]

Why is that other bait thread still up?
It's been like 6 hours

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>>49279901
comparing dick size

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>>49279912
do you actually believe this?

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>>49279574
the order you gave.

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>>49279972
I don't know, people are actually using it too. Euros are more retarded than SEAfriends, who could've guessed.

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This thread

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone else just really tired? I have no idea who is arguing in bad faith and who is arguing in even worse faith. It's actually getting really taxing not knowing if it is even possible to have a conversation about anything.

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>>49280073
>Euros are more retarded than SEAfriends
Burgercope

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>>49279947
Sukoya has a 3D thing too that starts at midnight, if her stream goes live early her peak will count for that day as per tallyanon's 1 hour rule.

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Can we have a comparison between Anycolor and Cover Q4 2023 numbers?

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>>49280153
Nijiniggers are unironically bots how they can falseflag and lie for 48 hours straight is beyond me

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>>49280176
You will have to wait for another month for that.

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>other thread is outdated and has a bait op
>this thread has a bait op
Can't you fuckers do anything right?

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>>49280179
it's gotta be paid shills
it's the only explanation
no one would do it for free

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>>49280153
>Holokek don’t have the same mental fortitude to support their livers in the face of adversity
That’s why Nijifans are better

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>>49280176
You can compare up to 3Q for now

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>>49280179
you can say this about deadbeats lying about mori signed by umg while in actuallity its umg.japan

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>>49280279
>Niji need to hire better PR!
>their hired PR...

[Anonymous No.]

Rough guesstimates on Talent/Company profit sharing based on Cover's FY2023 financial report and some known data such as channel profit sharing.
Source: https://contents.xj-storage.jp/xcontents/AS05169/4f1872d7/00b1/4608/ae53/91e8fe62579e/20230512160316925s.pdf

if we assume holomems gets an even split between them and Cover on all earning generated from their yt channel and twitch, 10% out of concert sales, and 5% out of sponsor deals, then we can estimate that merch profit sharing is around 30:70 (that is, holomems gets 30% of merch revenue after production costs/raw materials etc, 70% goes to Cover for operational expenses (merch staffs, etc))
This includes averages from all commerce sales such as voice packs, general merchs, custom merchs, event merchs, etc.

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>5 hours until Fauna
>8 hours until Moom

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>>49280293
Didn’t Niji already forecast a low Q4?

[Anonymous No.]

Good. ******s doing their job

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https://youtu.be/WogHjW9qepA?t=427
Kay Yu likes Pomu, Ironmouse, and Neuro-sama...

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>>49280268
how is the op a bait?

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>>49280336
>5 hours till below 10k stream goes live

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Holokeks we are going home.

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>>49280367
It's bait to my dick

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>>49280325
>30% split for all commerce sales
That's pretty impressive, holos are eating good

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>>49280380
>b2 kneeling to JP corp
god I wish
the vod will probably be purged later

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>>49279895
lol, maybe if they spin up the bots from the outfits again.

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I would unironically think that if they do HoloEU instead of tempus to cover the EU timeslot, it would'be done better. IT wouldn't touch EN, ID and JP timeslots while also securing EU viewers.

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chinks really desperate to get hololive back

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>>49280394
T-that's a trap?

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>>49280166
Dunno what that DJ thing is but I didn't see a guest list.

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>>49280414
>while also securing EU viewers
These don't exist in the first place

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>>49280325
>guesstimates
>assume
Really? This again?

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I would watch Reimu Hakurei if she were a Vtuber

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[Anonymous No.]

Tempus will have its own studio

[Anonymous No.]

>gross revenue
Cover: 46%
hololive member: 54%

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>>49280473
>565
he's right tho. Cover is probably the first in Japan to have 50+ women employees earning millions in USD

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>>49280325
This whole thing is literally
>I will bend the math to make Hololive look bad
>5 minutes of actual calculation
>The result actually is still better than Niji
>No no no it is actually bad because it just is ok?

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>>49280353
>”I don’t watch Ironmouse but I respect her”
>”I watch nuerosama clips”
Homobeggar level of “likes”

He said he liked Pekora (oshi) + Polka and then got asked who outside of holo he watched. Does sound like he is a pomudachi tho

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>>49280353

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>>49280473
>38
Buddha showed him the way.

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>>49280527
Cover is feminist confirmed?

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>>49280268
>bait OP
it's just korone
are you retarded or something?

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>>49280533
>anycolor's 1-3% is better than cover's 30%!

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>>49280289
Nah although it's tiring i will always shit on nijiniggers ALL NIJINIGGER GENOCIDE BABY

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>>49280353
>Tales fan
wtf Kay Yu is gay?

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>>49279901
A physical examination

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>>49280406
It's "guessed data"
In reality the split on merch is variable depending on the merch and holo, with cookie cutter merch (think acrylics) getting the smallest cut and custom-designed merch (think bday merch) getting the highest, plus all the 3rd party merch is a literal question mark

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>>49280353
>koefficient
Why the fuck would you even bother talking to that faggot. Kay should learn not to be a fucking moron

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>>49280561
In the same what?

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>>49280523
54% vs 2%-1%

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>>49280325
From my understanding from the report, 30% is what they have planned or rather promised to the talents currently. The company would go bankrupt especially with the huge debt they are in because of the Metaverse and 3D studio if they give 30% currently.
Once they are able to get returns from these investments and repay the loan, they will be able to split the merch profit to around 30%.

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>>49280583
What make this better is that the math is their, so they can't blame anyone for skewing the numbers

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>>49280601
hey fuck you
Tales series is good
at least until Xilia
Zestiria is a mess

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>>49280325
>if we assume 3 things that have no basis
>and assume 3 more things but don't say we assume them
>we can estimate
So you're telling me this is even more worthless than what the Ducky retard posted

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>>49280325
Anon, just let it die. No one is impressed...

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1. Suisei
2. Marine (actually like 7th once you subtract out her expenses)
3. Miko
4. Pekora
5. Gura
6. Aqua
7. Chloe
8. Kanata
9. Fubuki
10. Ayame
20. Iroha
11-19 (no order, names only): Lamy, Subaru, Towa, Okayu, Koyori, Laplus, Korone, Shion, Mori

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>>49280619
The game

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>>49280631
>still samefagging and trying
kill yourself

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>>49280631
>Debt
Bro? They went IPO for it, in the first place investment =/= loan

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>>49280523
Shouldn't it be:
>Cover: 68% (69M USD)
>Holos: 32% (33M USD)
?

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>>49280473
>112
Same

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>>49279574
I always rank Chuubas by their actions since words are always that, just sweet words
In this case, It would go something like
>Kiara
>Bae
>Fauna
>IRyS
>Mumei
I don't care what hoomans tell me about "muh parasocial she is obsessed with us" I'm basing this on how much they do for their fans, content they put out for their fans/ or stream for their fans since actions are the purest expression of love much more over words

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Thread theme
https://youtu.be/TywmpMQYojs

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>>49280561
I'm ok with stars, but I would not like them in the game because by that time there would be so many characters that moves and skills would be copied way to much and they would just feel like alt skins instead of being unique. Maybe items as long as their different but not characters.

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Elon kept his promise of stepping down. Say something nice about him

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>we can assume...
>this is just a guess but...
>a rough estimate...
how many times today intern? did your garbage catalog thread backfire

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>>49280325
How do we know the talent merch share is not part of the "cost of good sales" and not from talent remuneration?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbpvDq3fM80
>2k
vinbros.. our franchisee..

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>vspo girls 3D can get 100k
that's crazy

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>>49280607
I'm aware of that.

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>>49280617
The clout addiction...

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>>49280631
>debt
Nijifag... Pls, it's just getting sad at this point.

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The reason CCV is a meme is because, where the view is coming from is more important than total views. This is the US and ID rates as an example, which are both high. If you look at other regions in SEA and South America you find you get much less per click than this. ID is growing and should become more profitable soon but the US will always pay more per view than any other country. That's why imo the holos with the highest US viewership are the most profitable. I mean every US view is worth more than any other country.

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>>49280631
Retard

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>>49280728
>actions speak louder than words
>Puts Bae 2nd
Lol, I guess for the cuck experience

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>>49280473
>115
Same

>565
I wonder what male normalfags think of this.

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>>49280631
>From my understanding from the report,
>huge debt they are in because of the Metaverse
Your understanding is incorrect and contradicts the report.
>Development cost for Holoearth has been capitalized and recorded on the balance sheet
That means this record profit they're posting ALREADY contemplated the full development cost for Holoearth.

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>>49280561
dlc stars let's goooo, can a dlc be updated?

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>>49280353
>yes that includes holostars
Give it up you goddamn homoshill, nobody is gonna watch them just because you put them into holocure.

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>>49280668
>gura
licensed merch has small turnovers

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>>49280561
They're gonna have to wait until 2024 at the earliest at the rate the game is being developed
There's 2-3 updates per year, and we still have 3 updates remaining dedicated to holos (ID, JP3+4, JP5+6)

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>>49280690
>Cover declared gross profit / revenue share
? Use the financial report, it could go as low as 44% per quarter for Cover. The member gets 54% cos they burden all the other Cost of Sales

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>>49280804
We're getting a new version of
>The concert sold out so they are going bankrupt soon!

Updated version
>They sold a lot of merch so they must be in debt now!

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>>49280849
>3 song releases in one month
>Album soon
>Always streaming
>Appreciation content
When is your oshi's next cover hooman? forget about originals

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After the watchalong im very excited for variety stream tonight

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>>49280764
>21k subs
hey, is nice for an indie

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>>49280921
Cover will have debuted at least one new female gen by the time Holocure is done adding the existing holos.

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>>49280942
Not long until she goes on break...

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>>49280728
Quality over quantity. Kiara should be first, but putting Bae and Fauna next is too obvious of a shitpost.
NijiEN loves their audience more than HoloEN does by your definition.

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So... I did a bit of approx. math.
Caveats -
> Average is between both Hololive and Holostars talents, so higher highs and lower lows can be expected between individual talents.
> Income from self-funded merch, individual talent collabs (Lamy Sake) etc. and anything else that doesn't go through "company expenses", is likely not included.

With that said, the average Hololive Production talent got paid around 56.59 Million Yen by the company.
That's around $400,000 for the whole of 2023.
Their actual take-home income is likely to be far bigger.

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>>49280764
we live in a timeline where we could potentially see Vin Diesel collabing with vtubers once he releases Ark 2

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>>49280573
ironic, isn't it?

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>>49280761
Talent renumeration is part of CoGS.
Although yes, this doesn't leave the possibility that Cover incurred other costs to the talents outside of Talent renumeration but still part of CoGS.

>>49280656
I'm not the one spamming this anon, of I was i would post the revised one that also kept the event costs as close as to the 12m USD figure from the cost breakdown page.

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>>49280936
>Look at all this merch they have to sell just to stay afloat.
Something like this.

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>>49280977
2 you mean not EN

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She read everyone replies

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>>49280560
>Does sound like he is a pomudachi tho
I think he has said before that he is an pomudachi, even painted her and shit before

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>>49280668
>her expenses
retard who doesnt know how tax write-offs work

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>>49280583
there's no more room in the cope list...

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>>49280942
Her Hitman brain rot is something else.

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>>49280353
why do I see this faggot get post so often now, dude looks like he's trying to get his foot in door same way the TTfag tried

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>>49280764
Uh, it's 3k now. Higher numbers than nijiEN

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>>49279574
Irys>Mumei>>>Kiara>>Fauna>>Bae

They care about their fanbase but I can only see irys and mumei loving them. Kiara doesn’t love her fanbase she’s thankful to them. Kiara is the only member that isn’t avoiding male collabs of her own will, Fauna tried to put a barrier, and bae sees her audience but doesn’t know them.

This is all from the idea of love being really strong feelings. Only irys and mumei seem to have strong feelings for their fans among this list. If you view love differently then maybe your list is different but if bae is anywhere but last you’re objectively wrong

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>>49280728
We just gonna ignore Mumei setting up radio broadcast versions of her karaoke streams that she edited herself for when she goes on break?

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It looks like Cover and AnyColor use revenue and net sales interchangeably.

Thinking about it, shipping costs get included into net sales, right? Per Cover's presentation material, overseas sales make up 30% of merchandise sales (page 27). Shipping cost would be included as part of net sales and cost of sales.

>>49280325
Would Cover events in FY2023/3 really have cost about $16 million? The cancelled YouTube fight cost $500,000 at Madison Square Garden (19,500 seat venue). The largest change between Q3 and Q4 was due to Holofes. If gross margin for events was 25%, then there should be a drop from 47.4% in Q3, instead of an increase to 47.8% in Q4. Otherwise you'd have to cut cost significantly elsewhere. Furthermore, there were streaming tickets can only have so many costs associated with each sale.

Would there be any cost of sales for licensing other than revenue sharing with the talents? Cover staff should be handling that stuff (SGA costs) and it would be inline with AnyColor's information.

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>>49280987
Fauna does care a lot about her viewers she's just autistic about words

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>>49281078
That's not enough to put her above the others, sorry

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>>49279694
I don’t know what point you’re making but the retard you’re responding to, for lack of a better word, is a retard. They’re getting away with a 90% profit margin what investor would be mad at that

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>>49281008
Talents fund their own merch and get most of the money from the sales. It would be safe to assume the high cost of good sales also included the money they gave the talents and the talent's profits

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>>49281052
Yeah but at least it's not FPS brainrot or Final Fantasy brainrot or other debuff shit
>>49280983
There's one stream I plan to definitely rewatch, the Hypnospace Outlaw one.
I don't know if more games like that exist, but that shit was kino

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>>49280991
>average income
Do it better. 58% of the income for top 20 members. Then the rest. Homofaggots does not deserve those numbers in their name thats why Cover highlighted it on the report.

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>tries to participate in a civil discussion and even mentioned 'from MY understanding' meaning it is NOT a fact
Drones immediately get hyper defensive, insult other unrelated fanbases and call names. Only one decent anon provided counterpoint and proof.

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>>49281064
bae should be above fauna. she's a homocollaber but she does a lot for her fans. remember her fans have known her stance on the homos forever and she gives them the content they want to see. it's not for me but it's respectable

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>>49280991
> Income from self-funded merch, individual talent collabs (Lamy Sake) etc. and anything else that doesn't go through "company expenses", is likely not included.
Why wouldn't it be included when doing so would give her better tax rates?

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>>49280336
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ddZjXI4Kys

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>>49281064
you forgot to mention mori, she loves her deadbeats and is thankfull to have such a wonderful fanbase.

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>>49281168
>still trying'
nigger when was the last time you touched grass? seriously dont you hear yourself and how out of touch you sound?

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>>49281064
Nah Bae loves her fans to bits, I always see her expressing constant outward sentiments of how much she appreciates them and they made her what she is

[Anonymous No.]

If you want to know the general popularity for merch. This is based on the online order for Fes4 merch.

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>meido deleted the bait thread
heh

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Throughout this latest nijidrama I have seen a lot of like "Pomu, Selen should go to phase/idolen"

What would happen if Pomu and Selen actually applied to phase and idolen? Would they get accepted?
Do they have the correct skill set to join them?

On the plus side they both have a PL with enough viewers to get noticed. Like for Pomu even her PLs PL from back on 2020-21 had better numbers than most of phase/idol so from that angle they would be set. But would idol and phase see something in them that would say they could thrive with them?

But there would also be a lot of drama and animosity around such a switch. Would it be worth it for phase/idol?

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>>49281221
So does Fauna and we all know how that turned out

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>>49281118
I don't feel strongly one way or another about Fauna, but word autism is an annoying trait. I hate when people harp on the meaning of an individual word when the total message is usually obvious and much more important. Which i guess also makes me a word autist.

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>>49281235
If there is a numberfag janny, he's the only good one

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>>49281163
top 20 brings in 58% of the sales, that doesn't mean that the same 20 gets 58% of total renumeration paid from Cover.

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>>49281229
Online order? For the acryllic stand right?

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* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *

Here it goes
>111,013: Hibari (Nijisanji)
>103,286: Lisa (VSPO)
>94,581: Sumire (VSPO)
>89,113: Noah (VSPO)
>18,668: AZKi (Hololive)
>14,714: Yashiro (Nijisanji)
>11,929: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>11,407: Chiroru (Indie)
>11,260: Koyori (Hololive)

A very stacked day with four streams over 89k and gold for the Niji 3D
The height of the tally tho ... there was no other day with 9 or fewer entries in the tally except for the height of CCVID (Jan 4th to 10th in 2022).

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>>49281245
Fauna loves her fans you retard, that's why she said they should prioritize themselves over someone they could never reach

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>>49281186
It's possible that that's included, but we have no idea how they've divvied up the income, and there's no individual splitoffs given, which is why it's safe not to assume whether it's there or not.

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>>49281221
Knowing Bae's CCV average it's not surprising she values the viewers she does have.

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>>49281245

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>>49281245

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>>49281271
Sticker and acrylic
https://shop.hololivepro.com/en/products/hololive_superexpo2023_chibi_sticker
https://shop.hololivepro.com/en/products/hololive_3dacrylicstand_bright

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>>49281255
It is.

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>>49281289
Until I know who to lewd, I will lewd gamers

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>>49279527
FUCKING BASED OP
/#/ IS INCLINING

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>>49281289
Both yesterday and today were incredibly dry because Hololive is missing in action.

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>>49281289
I don't see anything strange about the popular Nijis getting this kind of number, but I've legitimately never heard of this person.

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>>49281289
Kek how long ago was the last time niji had more entires in tally then holo

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>>49281289
S-Skinny .... GIVE THAT TALLY A SANDWICH!

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>>49281289
>111,013: Hibari (Nijisanji)
Amazing how someone who averages 1-2k ccv per stream got 111k

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>>49279574
Kiara #1 and no one else is even close.

[Anonymous No.]

Late hours
https://poal.me/ddoor6
https://poal.me/ddoor6
https://poal.me/ddoor6

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>>49281376
Wasn't he part of the debuts that got buried by last year's holofes?

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>>49281252
I agree with you which is why this whole "friend" saga is annoying as hell.
any time Fauna talks about her fans she's very loving and supportive. She recorded a 20 minute voice pack for her birthday for crying out loud. It's obvious she cares a lot about her viewers.

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>>49281408
one time buff only

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>>49281289
>highest holo is azki with 18k
>koyori is the only other holo to make it into the tally
GRIM

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>>49281418
Those are ridonkulus

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>>49281358
theres literally 3 vspo girls to choose from though itll be a difficult challenge

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>>49281381
It's a 3-2 Nijisanji victory (hololive is dead) yet the actual ritualposter isn't here to see it.

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>>49281289

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>>49281107
Here's the revised sheet with adjustments so that event costs for FY2023 is closer to 12m USD (which another anon had calculated in a previous thread from the cost breakdown page). Also another change is the total renumeration value is adjusted closer to 34M USD.
This makes the profit sharing for all commerce sales closer to 40:60 split.

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>>49281454
what's the deal with VSPO yakuza and that horse game yakuza?
I demand a lewd picture god damn it!

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>>49280325
>35% streaming
are you counting YouTube cut? That doesn't show up in Cover's top line

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>>49281454
Personally, I don't lewd strangers

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>>49281289
>VSPO still manage to lose to a literal who Niji with their first 3D debuts
NGMI

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>>49281438
Today was a slow day for Holos across the board. It's like all of the heavy hitters were in a company meeeting receiving their bonuses

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>>49281293
It's a ranking retard. Someone's gotta be on the bottom and someone's gotta be on top. The argument isn't "does Fauna love her fans"
It's does Fauna love her fans more than Kiara, IRyS, Mumei, or Bae
So you using the same argument for Bae that can also apply for Fauna, isn't a compelling argument to put either ahead of anyone else.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49281229
Merch First Army (new recruits excluded until they've established multiple years of service): >Suisei (Grand Marshal of the Hololive Empire)
>Miko (Field General)
>Marine (Maritime Admiral)
>Fubuki (Air General)
>Pekora (Field Marshal)
>Aqua (Maritime Vice Admiral)
>Okayu (Air Lieutenant General)

[Anonymous No.]

>>49281485
ill give you one lewd noa picture out of pity but youll have to get the rest yourself

[Anonymous No.]

>>49281531
Not their fault a sub 2k streamer can pull 110k out of his ass.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49281293
What part of "I am an entertainer, nothing more" don't you understand
The relationship is purely business

[Anonymous No.]

>>49281544
>EN top 3 and 6 of hololive streams today

[Anonymous No.]

>>49281289
Damn only 2 Holos? Is Hololive reclining bros?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49281531
skill issue

[Anonymous No.]

>>49281531
not like any holo that isnt holox can do much better

[Anonymous No.]

>>49281420
Good karaoke, how much did she drink during members?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49281477
Holy sexo

[Anonymous No.]

>>49281289
>only 2 holos on tally
Jesus Christ that's grim as fuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>49281058
>now
The dude made Peko and Polka's intros, did shit for Cali and Gura with River City Girls, and obviously Holocure. He's been talked about plenty before.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49281549
It's just bait to get people to put Fauna last. Trying to milk the same shit for 4 days now without success.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49281544
>kaela outranking kobo
>both outranking kiara
kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>49281229

[Anonymous No.]

>>49281477
>>49281655

[Anonymous No.]

>>49281239
Neither Selen nor Pomu is anything special and would probably get shit views in a smaller corpo. Literally the only reason fishman or the jews would take them in is if they really would want some big fuck you statement to NijiEN and show how they are taking over

[Anonymous No.]

>>49281549
It's a retarded ranking whose only purpose is to stir shit, fuck off

[Anonymous No.]

>>49281660
Pretty sure anon is talking about the other fag, koefficient

[Anonymous No.]

>>49281669
I don't want to hear people saying Pekora and Gura are top merch seller ever again

[Anonymous No.]

>>49281293
Fauna cares for her fans the way Twitch streamers do. She gives the best content she can and wants them to be happy while watching her. Compared to the EN girls that are hardcore parasocial for their fans, Fauna is very lacking in personal connection. Ironically, that's exactly why this "I'm not your friend" fake yab is such a joke. Anyone who watches her knows she has always kept her fans at a respectful distance.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49281660
I know who Kay Yu is retard im talking about the Koefficient dude

[Anonymous No.]

>>49281735
Pekora and Gura are top merch seller

[Anonymous No.]

>>49281604
It's amazing how you guys take 1 line and pretend everything around it she says doesn't exist just to push your own narrative.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49281735
I don't think anyone ever accused Pekora of being the top merch seller, just a very stronger one specially with her thousand dollars figurine

[Anonymous No.]

>>49281749
I would say IRyS has shown way less affection for her fans, for example

[Anonymous No.]

>>49281669
how does iroha do it

[Anonymous No.]

>>49280353
>Kay started development of the game around Feb 2022, with a completed prototype ready after around a few weeks to a month.
>He was expecting maybe a few EN members to play the game at most, but revealed that a Cover staff reached out to him about 5 hours after the demo released, asking if the talents can stream the game. And shortly after he agreed, he saw that Matsuri had prepared a scheduled HoloCure stream and ended up being the first holomem to play the game.
>Out of the current roster, Fubuki is one of his personal favourites to make because her playstyle is quite unorthodox compared to the others.
>Some of the harder characters for him to make are the holomems with very simple, normal lore and character settings since it's trickier to fit them in an action game context. Subaru is an example of such a character.
>AZKi was also challenging to create as a character because she hasn't streamed as much as the other talents, so there wasn't as much to work with for her besides her musical theme. Kay intends to give her a bit of a rework to bring her up to balance with the other characters.
>He also teased that Mumei would be getting a minor rework that will make her abilities be more cohesive with each other.
>We can likely expect new game modes because he mentioned that the Fubuki fishing minigame that was teased a while back is not part of the normal game mode.

[Anonymous No.]

Fauna loves me and is my unironic Kirin girlfriend and soon to be wife

[Anonymous No.]

>>49281797
Stop replying to bait anon, if I can do it, so can you

[Anonymous No.]

>>49281823
nin nin goza goza

[Anonymous No.]

>>49281735
2022 Pekora birthday sold 1.1m without a limited edition while 2023 Miko sold 1.3m with one. From all sets, we know limited edition accounts for a huge percentage of sales.
Suichan is probably #1 but this list is not definitive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49281771
He was on asacoco due to coco giving him a shoutout due to him reacting to her twerking. He also a fighter game player and person who reacts to vtuber and was paid to react to nijisanji clips.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49281735
With acrylics and stikers from the fes??
don't insult them

[Anonymous No.]

>>49281826
Matuli...

[Anonymous No.]

>>49281869
2022 was twenty years ago anon, time to move on

[Anonymous No.]

>>49281823
miComet's daughter = a merch monster like her mothers

[Anonymous No.]

>>49281239
>would they get accepted
yes
>do they have the skillset to join
yes
>would it be worth it for phase/idol
yes
>would it be worth it for Pomu or Selen to give up 50% of their revenue for a brand association of a small EN vtuber company
No
Wouldn't be worth it for Zaion either. Maybe like Aia or Maria or Reimu if they left Niji.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49281229
>>49281669
Oof Gura is barely top 20 when it comes to merch. ENshart status?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49281910
Aia makes decent SCs though even if she's not a merch pusher

[Anonymous No.]

>>49281826
>Cover staff
Permission guy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49281735
That list gives a decent idea of the rankings but is not explicitly accurate, for instance Fubuki is a strong holo mascot with general appeal but is nowhere near #3 in the company for birthday merch because she doesnt have nearly as many dedicated gachis as the GFE holos, Aqua, Ayame and yes even Pekora and Gura

[Anonymous No.]

>>49281869
Dino Gura crushed Suisei

[Anonymous No.]

>>49281903
Aaiee I'm in my 50s?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49281669
>Luna only beat one EN
This one actually surprised me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49281910
Female vtubers need to get as far from males as possible unless they're exceptional enough which is only possible for a nip to begin with

[Anonymous No.]

>>49281910
it absolutely would not be worth it for some shit 3view to leave niji for a small corpo

[Anonymous No.]

>>49281934
>comparing acrylic and stikers of all things from 2 days.
Don't be so pathetic

[Anonymous No.]

>>49281477
>>49281709
who is this semen demon

[Anonymous No.]

>>49281943
Decent, but take away 50-70% of her audience and how is she doing after reincarnation? Pomu's *probably* still a 4view. Selen for sure is. Aia? Might be getting 200 viewers if she's lucky.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49282043
Coping much?

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vv5bGZO_r78
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vv5bGZO_r78
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vv5bGZO_r78
>Wamy's diddies keeps on getting bigger
MY DICK AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[Anonymous No.]

>>49282064
Stickers are literally for girls

[Anonymous No.]

>>49282043
There is no other merch that has the full Hololive members for comparison.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49282026
Wouldn't be worth it to leave but if they did leave involuntarily would it make more sense to stay as an indie or join a small corpo? I think that's the question.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49282064
2%

[Anonymous No.]

>>49281669
>Aqua in 8th when she hasnt done fucking anything since 2019
Easy Money

[Anonymous No.]

>>49282057
I'm confused, he said it might be worth it for someone like Aia, Maria, Reimu, and I was telling him that Aia was a decent SC getter. So meant that it'd be stupid of her to leave considering that's where most of their money comes from

[Anonymous No.]

>>49281239
>imagining a scenario where NijiEN literally gets poached by SMALLER corpos
is this what we are coming to

[Anonymous No.]

>>49281669
startend tsuyoi

[Anonymous No.]

>>49282093
that means she's getting fat

[Anonymous No.]

>>49280523
Retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>49281771
Dude one of the big faces of the western hololive community kinda like the sugita of en. It is insane you never heard of him until now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49281975
proof?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49282104
then that shit is useless and it>>49282114
just Nijinnigers Deflection post as always.

[Anonymous No.]

Zeta trending in Japan somehow, not top tho

[Anonymous No.]

Whats 5ch take on the financial?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49281544
>Box
>Box doesn't want TOTK spoilers
>Lui is not in the box
>Box hate watchalongs too
>Box

[Anonymous No.]

>>49281239
imagine never having to deal with japanese corporate shenanigans again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49282153
Here's your (You), now fuck off

[Anonymous No.]

>>49282118
I'm going off the scenario that they've left Niji already, not answering the question of "would it be worth it to leave", that's a different scenario.

[Anonymous No.]

by the way, holocure was trending? i saw some people that never heard of vtubers or the game talking about it

[Anonymous No.]

>>49282163
Show me how much is 1% nijinniger

[Anonymous No.]

>>49282177
Zeta is a Valorant team name https://liquipedia.net/valorant/ZETA_DIVISION

[Anonymous No.]

>>49282114
zhang bro...

[Anonymous No.]

>>49279679
>We're are not friends
>Doesn't stream
>Horse fucker
>Irys

lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>49282180
Holo > Niji

[Anonymous No.]

>>49282180
They're shitposting about 50% talent fee.
Not sure what they're exactly referring to

[Anonymous No.]

>>49282177
Its Valorant's ZETA anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>49281975
Lol 1 merch big run doesn't mean shit in the long run

[Anonymous No.]

>>49282166
>muh nijinig
ENcope

[Anonymous No.]

>>49282114
>Ayame in 11th when she hasnt done fucking anything ever

[Anonymous No.]

>>49282220
It's actually pretty good for Holocure to only move to Steam now that it has a sizeable roster and five stages + time trial.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49282177
anonchama...

[Anonymous No.]

https://streamable.com/0nwjfv
Fauna had to dance around the fact the talent merch split depends on whether it's generic merch or custom birthday merch. Cover shills are trying way too hard to convince people Fauna was lying but that Kson would publicly tweet confidential merch split information from hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49282177
Zeta gundam got added on crunchyroll

[Anonymous No.]

>>49282235
It's also a Mexican drug cartel and a letter in the Greek alphabet

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gp1j9_0BOiU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gp1j9_0BOiU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gp1j9_0BOiU
>Rrat trying to poison her overlords
OH NO NO NO

[Anonymous No.]

>>49282282
>iT DOESN'T COUNT
truly 2% suffering

[Anonymous No.]

>>49282153
>>49281876
right some literal who eceleb leech, gotcha

[Anonymous No.]

>>49281669
>Pekora and Subaru all the way down there
Lol, do their fan hate stickers and acryllic stands?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49282180
What they already knew. Niji pays a better cut than Holo despite the numbers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49282357
Pekora has big number because she is full of casual fan.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49282337
The cartel is called Los Zetas though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49281735
This is a great indicator of who are favourites with women, keychain and stickers.
Suisei being that much higher and sex demons being at the bottom

[Anonymous No.]

Jwu Nijisanji had a new drama again?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49282331
>around the fact the talent merch split depends on whether it's generic merch or custom birthday merch.
Wut, that's common knowledge?
>talent produced merch: talent big cut
>cover produced merch: cover big cut
That's not and never has been a point of contention

[Anonymous No.]

>>49282347
>it was true about pekora telling bae to sabotage cover...

[Anonymous No.]

>>49282347
Remember when some Tempiss obsessed le homobegger boogeyman sisters were fully convinced the last episode would be with Axel? and they attempted to shit up an entire thread for that? I want them to eat shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>49282331
No one is saying Fauna is lying, the only thing she said is SOME merch pays less than superchats and she makes decent fucking superchats so even that is skewed. Nowhere does it mention splits or % so using this is fucking stupid to begin with

[Anonymous No.]

>>49282331
Fauna vacation = stealth suspension?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49282357
Nousagis are poor

[Anonymous No.]

>>49282394
Ike got suspended for showing disdain towards Anycolor. He was the first one to tweet ""covid"" at Anycolor

[Anonymous No.]

>>49282221
ENsharts are truly pathetic

[Anonymous No.]

>>49282177

[Anonymous No.]

>>49282394
Cover got exposed both on and off stream today.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49282347
Ah, it's revenge for the crimes of EN management.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49281669
>not a single gen 5 in top 10 when every other gen can manage it
Lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>49282350
Oh no it does count, you are just acting like Dino Gura is an infinite insurmountable number
Suisei have more merch run which when add up definitely BTFO Gura

[Anonymous No.]

>>49282429
Sister she announced the vacation two weeks ago

[Anonymous No.]

>>49282370

[Anonymous No.]

>>49281876
>He was on asacoco due to coco giving him a shoutout due to him reacting to her twerking.
I don't know what part of this sentence is the most carcinogenic, I truly don't
Thanks for reminding me why I didn't really fancy Coco even before the chinkout, and I only came to her side because I hate chinks even more

[Anonymous No.]

>>49282429
That fucking stream happened months ago you retarded faggot. She's literally going on vacation with her mother for mother's day and has been saying it for over a week. If it was a stealth suspension she would have randomly popped up and say "hey sorry something came up I have to go for a week" without having time to properly prep for it

[Anonymous No.]

Remember
It's a "break", okay?
definitely not a stealth suspension

[Anonymous No.]

>muh 2% bad

Merch Sales: $100K
min product cost: -$50K
min marketing: -$20K
min staff cost: -$10K
min logistic: -$10K
min misc. cost: -$5K
Profit: $5K (or 5% of merch sales)

2% of merch sales = $2,000 ==> share it
3% of merch sales = $3,000 ==> keep

HOW IS 2% of MERCH SALES BAD??

[Anonymous No.]

>>49282370
we back to this >>49280583

[Anonymous No.]

>>49280561
maybe in 4 years when the game is dead and we get Holocure 2

[Anonymous No.]

I guess acting retarded about number and pretending not knowing how to read is the new bait

[Anonymous No.]

>>49282530
That's under the assumption of 100k merch sales when we've seen for people like Aia that doesn't happen

[Anonymous No.]

>>49282268
to kson's tweet

[Anonymous No.]

>>49282530
>min product cost: -$50K
>min marketing: -$20K
>Profit: $5K (or 5% of merch sales)
Absolutely retarded

[Anonymous No.]

>>49282492
Sapcuck cope

[Anonymous No.]

>>49282426
How much SCs she gets doesn't matter the % is the same. She's talking about the same thing Pomu was, what % of your dollar goes to the streamer. She gets 35% of SCs, so that means some merch is higher than that and some is below. Birthday merch would be on the top end of the spectrum and generic shit like mass release acrylics would on the bottom.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49282530
>$70 frame
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>"""$35""" cost to produce

[Anonymous No.]

>>49282588
Okay.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49282588
Actual room temperature IQ

[Anonymous No.]

>>49282588

[Anonymous No.]

ENkeks are so pathetic that they’ll resort to calling everyone a nijinig once the meme shark gets btfo’d kek is there no shame?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49282565
it works because most of the posters here are also retarded at numbers and can't read charts

[Anonymous No.]

>>49281934
Wut?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49282476
Niji2% are truly sad people

[Anonymous No.]

Can someone just take the anti-gura bait already? I feel kinda for him.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49282530
Anon, 2% of 5k is 100

[Anonymous No.]

>>49282701
>>49282655

[Anonymous No.]

>>49282701
eh, pass

[Anonymous No.]

>>49282701
I have standard
I need premium bait

[Anonymous No.]

https://youtu.be/WogHjW9qepA?t=1336
> Q. If you were to develop another Hololive based fangame, what genre, what would it be?
> A. For that, I'm gonna not say much because there may or may not be other things in the works already that I have ideas of.
> If those things happen, you'll see it.
Bets on whether he's talking about consulting for HoloEarth or whether Cover commissioned him and team to develop another fangame but one that can be monetized?

Also the Fishing minigame that was teased is not part of the main game loop, so there may be another game mode incoming in Holocure.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49282655
Thanks anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>49282653
We're getting utterly bizarre takes since the lowest lowball they gave was Holo talents taking 30% which is still hilariously bigger than Nijis.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49282347
Based, this is the best way to end this series. I personally really enjoyed it all and it always makes me happy when Bae does these projects on the side

[Anonymous No.]

>>49282782
Holo Harvest Moon

[Anonymous No.]

>>49282814
it's just stardew valley with Holo skin mod

[Anonymous No.]

>>49282632
moririn your mindchair

[Anonymous No.]

>>49282701
What kind of attempt is that even...

[Anonymous No.]

>>49281669
>Ame worst shitter in EN
the improvification is progressing

[Anonymous No.]

>>49282814
I would play that, a village full of Hologirls and scenery of a farm and mountain

[Anonymous No.]

>>49282782
The fishing minigame could be part of a little sandbox mode where you can mess with various intractables on a map.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49282707
>No reply
Utterly BTFO'ed. Imagine not only doing the math wrong but also not taking into account the varied cost of producing merch (acryllic stand doesn't cost as much as custom merch) and literally just make up expenses

[Anonymous No.]

>>49282861
Kronii is below her

[Anonymous No.]

>>49282782
Hololive Musou

[Anonymous No.]

>>49282927
Kiara is bellow her

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>49282347
Deserved desu

[Anonymous No.]

A product that is sold at $100, produced with $10 and only $2 given to the talent for every merch old while $88 goes to the company. That's stupid as fuck. The one who markets the product is the talent so 30% should've gone for them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49282782
Hololive FPS when?
maybe heroes/arena shooter like Overwatch/Valorant/Apex with Holo rosters

[Anonymous No.]

>>49282970
we always turn our brats menhera

[Anonymous No.]

>>49282391
Suisei is higher than anyone else with any merch though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49282803
I bet that IRyStocrat who made that ranking earlier will still say that his oshi loves her fans more than Baelz while having nothing to show for it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49282433
>>49282377
I know, I wish we had number for her figure because that was the ultimate test to see if her fan actually have money, too bad

[Anonymous No.]

>Nijinnigers trying to deflect with Holo vs holo merch
>Holo fans: 2%
>Nijinnigers: YAMERROOOOOOOOOOOOO
Now their baits are pathetic and they got another new meme(2%)

[Anonymous No.]

>>49283042
Yeah because she has a lot of fans both sexes.
Stickers and keychains definitely appeal to women more than men, especially how they're used in nipland

[Anonymous No.]

>>49282803
nobody asked bratcuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>49283084
2% seethe

[Anonymous No.]

>>49283077
that might explain Iroha. She's the self-insert hoshiyomi.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49283084
It was funny content, seethe

[Anonymous No.]

>>49282803
to be fair, it's one of the only EN projects that any of the girls has done recently with any form of care.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49282347
>Premiere
so much for shitposting

[Anonymous No.]

>>49282530
we discussed this Twitter post 2 days ago

[Anonymous No.]

>>49283121
Looking at the top, it's actually all the popular merch movers and their associate. Pekora and Subaru are low precisely because they are in no grouping and other fanbases feel no incentive to buy their stuffs

[Anonymous No.]

*FINAL EN TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN*

>5/12 DAILY TALLY
8,656: IRyS (Hololive)
7,730: Mumei (Hololive)
6,937: Ina (Hololive)


>EN GOLDS FOR MAY 2023
1) IRyS (Hololive) - 9,139 - Super Mario Maker
2) Fauna (Hololive) - 13,573 - ASMR Offcollab (w/ Kronii)
3) Luca (Nijisanji) - 9,264 - NijiEN Dating Show (w/ Uki, Alban, Vox, Ren, Kyo)
4) IRyS (Hololive) - 7,445 - Super Smash Bros.
5) Gura (Hololive) - 13,811 - Bramble The Mountain King
6) Mumei (Hololive) - 17,981 - Council Uno Collab
7) Amelia (Hololive) - 8,418 - Unarchived Karaoke
8) Fauna (Hololive) - 7,622 - Super Mario Maker 2
9) Fauna (Hololive) - 10,140 - Minecraft
10) IRyS (Hololive) - 10,985 - Karaoke
11) Mori (Hololive) - 10,635 - Idol Showdown (w/ Ina)
12) IRyS (Hololive) - 8,656 - Super Smash Bros. (w/ Kronii)

>PER COMPANY
11x: Hololive
1x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
4x: IRyS
3x: Fauna
1x: Luca, Gura, Mumei, Amelia, Mori

>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
26p: IRyS
15p: Fauna, Mumei
13p: Mori
9p: Ina
5p: Luca, Gura, Amelia, Baelz
4p: Shu
1p: Kiara

[Anonymous No.]

>>49282530
>post a PNG on Twitter and another one on reddit
>get 20% of the total sales
>get 10x more than the actual talent
it's that easy

[Anonymous No.]

are the numbers known for suisei’s recent birthday merch? she sold a fat ass plush so that would be a better comparison to the dino plush

[Anonymous No.]

>>49282391
With Towa being over Pekora and Subaru, I guess this is the most reasonable explanation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49283121
Yeah i was gonna say Iroha being there is pretty weird, but I could see her being a decent self insert

[Anonymous No.]

>>49282970
I wonder if Lapu has heard of karma.

[Anonymous No.]

>playing apex with 2 professional Apex players
>"I've been doing so well in ranked, maybe I can be pred again!"

[Anonymous No.]

>>49281669
Gura>Ina>>Mori>Fauna>=Bae>Mumei>=IRyS>Ame>Kronii

[Anonymous No.]

>>49283262
>2023 EN GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
95x: Hololive
35x: Nijisanji
2x: Holostars

>PER STREAMER
13x: Mori, IRyS
12x: Fauna
10x: Gura
9x: Baelz, Mumei
8x: Ina, Amelia
7x: Kronii, Vox
5x: Kiara, Mysta
4x: Selen
3x: Pomu, Shu
2x: Luca
1x: Ike, Flayon, Alban, Elira, Luxiem, Finana, Millie, Regis, Enna, Rosemi, Hololive English, Ren, Sonny, Fulgur

>2023 POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
127p: Fauna
103p: IRyS
96p: Mori
93p: Mumei
92p: Ina
84p: Baelz
64p: Vox
60p: Amelia
53p: Mysta
50p: Gura
49p: Kiara
47p: Kronii
43p: Luca
31p: Selen
22p: Shu
16p: Pomu
11p: Uki, Axel, Sonny
10p: Ike
9p: Millie, Enna, Fulgur
8p: Finana
7p: Regis, Elira
6p: Rosemi, Ren
5p: Flayon, Alban, Luxiem, Hololive English
4p: Vesper
3p: Hakka, Magni, Kotoka
1p: Meloco, Shinri, Gavis, Maria, Pippa, Nina

[Anonymous No.]

>>49283278
Combined with this >>49283234
Hoshiyomi probably buy her merch and Aqua as well through Startend association

[Anonymous No.]

>wave

[Anonymous No.]

>>49282114
oi thats a big underselling of aqua, faggot
most of her achievements are past 2019

[Anonymous No.]

>>49283275
you still doing this, 2%?
2% seethe

[Anonymous No.]

>>49281420
I don't watch EN, sorry

[Anonymous No.]

>>49280473
>112
This but with Tokino Sora

[Anonymous No.]

>>49283302
shes like the 40 year old that still wears the varsity football jacket except she isnt a has-been but a never-was

[Anonymous No.]

>>49283302
>bragging pred in a season where you can sit on trees and get it ft. sweetdreams
>when she gets shitted on pt platinum players on vtuber tournament

[Anonymous No.]

>>49283262
another gold? sasuga my WifeRys

[Anonymous No.]

>>49283331
he is collabbeggar and homobeggar, pls understand

[Anonymous No.]

>>49280473
Is that Pekora moment really that historical?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49280900
Merch, ad rev, members, sponsors she’s among the top in everything and only loses in sc solely off lack of streams. Top 5 is a safe bet.

>>49280668
I don’t think mori would break 20 she’s probably 21 or 22. Ina gets similar sized sponsors to gura and her merch is second in en so i think she’s the only other en in the top 20 if any at all. Sora is still the de facto face of jp so she’s almost always involved in something so she’s probably in the top 20 as well. #1 is between Pekora and Gura

[Anonymous No.]

>>49282391
Nah it's not, because FBK is not popular with women

[Anonymous No.]

>>49282370

[Anonymous No.]

>>49283262
sapkeks? hookeks? our response?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49282814
Holo dating sim/eroge when

[Anonymous No.]

>>49283331
"Wave" is technically correct given tempoop

[Anonymous No.]

>>49283262
>12 days into the month
>1 gold
>1 silver
>1 bronze
is nijien going to be ok?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49283337
is it so unbelievable that i like holojp and want to shit on holoen? is this general just unironically filled with chumbuds?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49281669
Micomet beats enstars on animate monthly ranking. They're the golden pair. The rest of shiraken were in 10-15 range

[Anonymous No.]

>>49283449
I disagree

[Anonymous No.]

>>49283335
other than crashing spwn and playing apex what exactly has she done

[Anonymous No.]

>>49283424
Stop being delusional chumkek

[Anonymous No.]

>>49283492
2% seethe.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49283331
>kfp
why am I not surprise

[Anonymous No.]

>>49283478
Riku to his servants:
>Quick, deploy Dark Salome!

[Anonymous No.]

>>49283498
the fujos that anti Suisei must be fuming.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49280938
So your implication is mori loves her holo fans more than everyone else. And kronii loves them more than fauna apparently.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49283393
Is he falseflagging as a KFP ?
Is there any proof that he is a kfp or is this just an easy way for fooling people that he is a 'hololive' fan ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49283508
are you retarded, zhang? eat your bat soup and stop shitposting

[Anonymous No.]

>>49280938
music releases aren't for the fans, dumbass, they're for the artist.

[Anonymous No.]

Heh, you guys wanna see something VERY AMUSING, maybe the most amusing thing you guys will see today?
>pic related

The sources
>Cover Fiscal Year document
https://contents.xj-storage.jp/xcontents/AS05169/62eb9a65/9e54/4a54/a729/213069140703/20230512160417786s.pdf
(relevant data on page 3, rest of the data come from older documents)
>Anycolor 9 months result plus projections for the full Fiscal year
https://ssl4.eir-parts.net/doc/5032/ir_material_for_fiscal_ym2/132631/00.pdf
(projections for 2023 on page 2)

If Anycolor projections come true
1) They'll increase the difference in Sales Revenue from Cover, and by a significant margin
2) For the FIRST TIME in history, Cover will post a larger sales revenue than Anycolor

Amusing, isn't it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49283692
>For the FIRST TIME in history, Cover will post a larger sales revenue than Anycolor
Duh, hand slip, I mean
> For the FIRST TIME in history, Cover will post a larger sales PROFIT than Anycolor

[Anonymous No.]

>>49283662
Only if you are a music holo like IRyS, Suisei or Mori where being an artist is your brand

[Anonymous No.]

>>49283288
doesn't exist, and would also be irrelevant here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49283692
YAMEROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>49283692
TO THE CATALOG

[Anonymous No.]

>>49283589
Well Kronii never said I can't be her friend.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49283692
DELETE DELETE
AAAIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[Anonymous No.]

>>49280728
If you want to get really serious Kiara and bae aren’t in the running neither is irys. Despite what we pretend songs aren’t for the fans. Merch isn’t for the fans. You’re paying so she can make music which you will then “listen” to so she can make somewhat of a return. You fund their projects so they can sell it to you. If these are the actions that show their love I’ll stick with mumei or irys

[Anonymous No.]

>>49283758
>IRyS

[Anonymous No.]

>>49280473
>112

This, but ookami mio

[Anonymous No.]

>>49283871
Same here, but brazilian waxed Ookami Mio

[Anonymous No.]

>>49283234
doesn't Pekora have her genmates?

[Anonymous No.]

I want Mio's hairy bush on my face...

[Anonymous No.]

Our response?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49283813
>We
Even regarding your opinion on the matter, It's funny because both of them do less for their fans than the other three even if he didn't mention all that stuff

[Anonymous No.]

>>49280837
Except the gap isn’t that massive between japan and America. The jp members have about 20% western audiences and their vods are almost alway above the en and id. It’s why Gura is the only one with an actually valuable en channel and kaela is technically more valuable than kobo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49283692
AAAAAIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEE DELET THIS SIR! DELET DELET!

[Anonymous No.]

>>49283965
he's a faggot for not wanting Mio's bushy bottom lips on his face.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49283890
Wow GAY

[Anonymous No.]

>>49283692
anycolor's q3 was 24b, they've already surpassed cover

[Anonymous No.]

>>49283965
being a furry is accepted in 2023

[Anonymous No.]

>>49283692
It's literally, unironically, practically, theoretically, and figuratively over.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49282530
>marketing
This retard again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49283692
please delete this
we already got enough shitflinging just by Cover posting theirs

[Anonymous No.]

>>49283692
They're always conservative with their projections. Don't count on anything holobronies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49284059
>anycolor's q3 was 24b,
No they didn't, see
again, they had Sales Revenue of 19,4B. That's not the point tho, they're projecting 25B for 2023 and, as shown in the chart, that will greatly outrank Cover
But their Sales profit, according to their projections, will come short

[Anonymous No.]

>>49283498
I don't what it is, but ever since micomet became a thing both have been soaring in merch sales. I dunno I guess some suisei music listeners are also yurifags and are salivating and cumming over it? (both male and female.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49281289
>100k slip
holy shit lmao

[Anonymous No.]

hags

[Anonymous No.]

>>49284134
I agree, I wouldn't pop the cork yet but how the fuck they would have that HUGE increase in sales revenue without an accompanying in sales profit?
Sales revenue / profit is just the difference between sales and cost of sales, what's going wrong with them?
Their merch didn't get more expensive, did it?

Maybe it was Cover partnerships that created FULL PROFIT out of fucking nowhere, with stuff like Holocity making them immense money without any associated cost

[Anonymous No.]

>>49283692
paid taxes
>Cover: 844m yen, full year - 20.4b revenue
>Color: 2.3b yen, 3 quarters - 19.4b revenue
Cover had 5.9b in company expenses, while Color 1.4b

[Anonymous No.]

>>49283692
But Anycolor Q3 was higher than Cover and Cover understall their projection anyways?
Why are Holodrones using this as a W?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49283234
It looks like Nousagi prefer Pekora only merch https://twitter.com/usadapekora/status/1644262485929902080?s=20

[Anonymous No.]

>>49284189
It’s called “Giving other fanbases incentive to buy your merch as well”. There’s a reason why Cover want to make new groupings constantly, it’s to boost merch sales of everyone in the group
It’s also exactly why solo streamer like Pekora started lagging behind

[Anonymous No.]

>>49282331
she also said birthday merch is generally a safe bet, which is what we usually track. She was likely referring to concert and event acryllics.

[Anonymous No.]

>Livers that left on their own because job was so shit
HoloEN: 1
NijiEN: 0
>Livers that had to be kicked out kicking and screaming because they didnt want to forfeit their job after breaking rules
HoloEN: 0
NijiEN: 2

sounds like NijiEN is the more desired job!

[Anonymous No.]

>>49284271
Both those values are BEFORE taxes. Sales revenue is just
>how much money was paid for whatever they were selling
and sales profit
>how much money was left before they paid the cost of production
Taxes come down the line, not in these values

[Anonymous No.]

>>49283692
You forget that Cover paid more in tax despite lower valuation than Anycolor

[Anonymous No.]

>>49284326
>Using EN as a metric
Melissa
Lulu
Gibara

[Anonymous No.]

All that actually matters is my girls are rich and your boys are broke

[Anonymous No.]

>>49284286
It’s not that they prefer it but because why would they buy others merch? Pekora have no association with any popular group or pairing and is by herself most of the time. She gave them no reason to

[Anonymous No.]

>>49284359
Rushia
Coco
Aloe

[Anonymous No.]

>>49284330
... The revenue is just a reference

[Anonymous No.]

>>49284359
no one cares about JP holokek, we are on a EN board. You care so much about JP how come your not in 5chan?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49284289
>But Anycolor Q3 was higher than Cover and Cover understall their projection anyways?
Anon, Q4 is the stronger quarter for Cover because of Holofes
>>49284332
See >>49284330, both those charts are BEFORE taxes come into play. It's Sales revenue and Sales profit, both are pre taxes and before any investment, they're
>sales revenue
>sales revenue minus cost of production

[Anonymous No.]

>>49283692
Wasn’t their projection before NijiEN (specifically Luxiem) collapsed?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49283692
>projection
Means shit. Cover projected much lower than the actual value. It's just to look good on paper.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49284332
Holy where are you dumb fucks coming from

[Anonymous No.]

>>49284189
>yurifags
both have big female fanbases. You can self-insert with Miko or Suisei.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49284403
What you said has no meaning, maybe you mean
>just a projection
but they released that document with that projection and revised it upward. They won't come short, if they do they'll be in a world of trouble because the market is counting on it and already baked it on the stock price with that huge spike when this report was released.
If Anycolor fails to meet these projections it's over

[Anonymous No.]

>>49284419
>still had to pay more in tax despite less earnings
Cope Holodrone

[Anonymous No.]

>>49284459
Anon everyone love ships, even male fan would love to see their oshi being happy in a ship and buy her partner merch just to pair them up

[Anonymous No.]

it must be exhausting being a nijifan
having to deflects yabs constantly and shit on holo to derail conversation about their black company and how badly the talents are treated
Selen, come home

[Anonymous No.]

>>49284440
I don't disagree but I'm taking them at their word, as it's the only existing data at the moment

[Anonymous No.]

>>49284413
>EN board
Then bloody use the right grammar then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49284380
That might change in the future https://twitter.com/KumagawaPpy/status/1654174835734355968?s=20

[Anonymous No.]

>>49283692
>For the FIRST TIME in history, Cover will post a larger sales revenue than Anycolor
Are you testing if /#/ can read? Surely you meant sales profit right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49283890
>not getting a full whiff of her musk as you dig in

absolutely GAY

[Anonymous No.]

>>49284494
No? >>49284271
Since when 2 billion is less than 900 million?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49284326
>livers
retard spotted

[Anonymous No.]

>>49284564
See >>49283742

[Anonymous No.]

>>49283692
AYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY SISTERS ONE OF OUR 2 FINAL COPES IS LOSING HOW CAN THIS HAPPEN TO US WHAT DO WE DO TO DESERVE THIS AAAAAAHHHHHHHHH

[Anonymous No.]

>>49283262
Why isn't Nijisanji streaming?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49284587
Illiterate retard you have it the other way around. $5.9B vs. $1.4B. Just take the L already.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49283999
The gap between us and Japan is 1:3. 3000 Jp viewers = 1000 US or Canada viewers. Every holo channel is valuable, it's just a matter of scale.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49284628
They are...

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>>49284512
yeah, but
>big male audience + big female audience = bigger sales
now, add the fact that it's a yuri pair and the big female audience they already had can self-insert more easily = even bigger sales.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49281171
>>49281221
I don’t see any strong feelings for bae. She’s very appreciative and her fans really like her but let me use an extreme example. If bae was terminated rushia style with some of her fans mad at her and just wanting to understand she would be mostly ok. Mumei would end up depressed and Irys would breakdown. They have extremely strong feelings for their fans and even if some people like it remember that’s not normal. The other 3 are slightly more normal.

>>49281192
I didn’t forget the original poster only asked about these 5.

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>>49284546
This doesn’t really prove anything, Pekora cannot maintain a relationship for long in the first place since she never hang out with the rest nor do a lot of collabs. I don’t see that changing in the future

[Anonymous No.]

AYYYYYYYY SISTERS EVEN THE HOLOANTI SUBREDDIT IS SHITTING ON OUR MANUFACTURED DRAMA HOW CAN THIS HAPPEN TO US

[Anonymous No.]

>>49283692
>law balled sales revenue
>reality, much higher
Arent they just setting it up for tabloids

[Anonymous No.]

>>49284657
I like how you are so surprised by this when back then PekoMiko already proved that yuriship work wonder for popularity

[Anonymous No.]

>>49282303
Hologra lines give you mascot power.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49284731
Cover always prefer to be safe while Anycolor is more risky

[Anonymous No.]

>>49284742
only one of those had the big female audience though.

[Anonymous No.]

Fauna doko?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49284719
Jesus christ go back you fucking retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>49284657
its simple, 2 girls kissing is hot, 2 guys kissing is repugnant.

[Anonymous No.]

She will tweet soon im sure

[Anonymous No.]

>>49280668
would Chloe really be that high?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49284815
You're getting hitman and you will like it.

[Anonymous No.]

https://twitter.com/tangdu0821/status/1656974869270253571?s=46&t=vAuMk6FVLkrJxgLS90A6gw
Sankisei acrylics stand from the cafe

[Anonymous No.]

>>49281568
Retard

>>49281229
This is not a popularity contest. This is a which fanbase was lucky enough to attend this Japanese event.

[Anonymous No.]

Do female fans for holos buy their dakis?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49284719
>reddit
>r/okbh
Go back

[Anonymous No.]

>>49284910
She does a lot in superchats havnt paid attention to her merch but it's probably also good so maybe

[Anonymous No.]

>>49284848
WELLLLLLLLLLL ANONSSSSSSSSS?!?!?!
>SALAM ALEIKUM, INFIDELS?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49284939
yeah

[Anonymous No.]

>>49283692
FWIW, this is mostly an artifact of holofes being much more successful than Cover anticipated, since like most growing tech companies, Cover likes to invest their profits into growth (which leads to insane P/E)
If they had correctly anticipated the actual holofes demand, they might have invested more of their profits for (theoretically) even further growth

[Anonymous No.]

>>49285026
I think anon meant female fans of the female talents.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49285095
kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>49285095
Towa is a woman

[Anonymous No.]

>>49285026
thats a man

[Anonymous No.]

>>49285095
how dare you

[Anonymous No.]

>>49282203
Imagine making less money or having to do coomer auctions on donothons. The dog sold her top 3 donators her worn socks then was mad that people expected more coomer shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>49285095
Yes
I don’t have the image of femnousagi with their purse full of Peko badge here however so I can’t show you

[Anonymous No.]

>>49285095
oi

[Anonymous No.]

>>49285095

[Anonymous No.]

TEMPUS 3
LETSSSS GOOOOOOOOOOO

[Anonymous No.]

>>49284848
have you not heard of fujos?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49285257
Nice tissues coomer

[Anonymous No.]

>>49285257
just how many 2views are you grooming bro

[Anonymous No.]

>>49285257
>running holostars auditions since december 17th
>running ads for them now
do you guys think they arent getting any even servicable applicants anymore ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49283234
do Pekora's genmates not count?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49285349
Why the fuck would you apply for holostars, you don’t even get access to the good Holos.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49285349
What kind of waste are they getting now? I mean not all of them outright state they're gonna creep on a holo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49285257
This is reprehensible

[Anonymous No.]

>>49282595
No you’re stupid If cover also did 1% cuts for merch and sold a over million dollars worth her cut would beat out a lot of monthly supers. And you have no proof it’s 35% without knowing the channel split with YouTube or what cover takes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49285349
I mean, Tempus are supposedly the best among those who applied

[Anonymous No.]

>>49285156
The one that asked Pekora to marry her?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49285405
I know I died fighting the good fight, the fight to become Kanatan's husband.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49285405
isnt this a nomenclature that applies to any girl willing to collab with holostars so there will in essence never be any good girls that collab with holostars

[Anonymous No.]

>>49285386
Her genmates actually have more successful grouping now, she is the one who is being left behind

[Anonymous No.]

>>49285465
?
Obviously no good girl would ever collab with holostars

[Anonymous No.]

It's such bullshit what Fauna gets away with. Every fucking thread goes on to defend her. The fucking Jannies are on her side too. Anything negative gets deleted. It's all such bullshit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49285489
PekoMari is fire though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49285386
Just Marine since there is people making a PekoMari VN. But Noel and Flare? Probably not.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49282803
>>49283142
Cucks nobody cares that you love bae

[Anonymous No.]

>>49284661
Not either of those anons but here's my take on this
That's a more co-dependency kind of love you are describing, both of them are using and rely on fans for emotional dependency whereas Bae's love is more selfless where she wants to give back to the fans and is happiest when she does. I wouldn't think the former kind of love is necessarily "more" or superior. Also this is Bae's dream job and she has repeatedly expressed this in the past which is why she puts so much effort into it, she would absolutely become depressed as well if she was terminated.

Fauna is also an excellent example of this where it's selfless love and she wants to give back to the fans at every turn and not have them worry too much about her, Bae does this too, both of them hide their hard times from the fans so they wouldn't have to worry about them and they just focus on pushing out content for them at a consistent rate.
Lastly, I believe Kiara is a mix of both categories but falls more into the "co-dependency" kind of love

TLDR: Co-dependent love isn't necessarily greater than selfless love and this argument is kind of dumb

[Anonymous No.]

>>49285498
but its flexible, Kronii was considered good for about 2 weeks not even following them unlike several 'good' girls are right now until Vesper cracked her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49285498
literally every girl has had a collab with towa

[Anonymous No.]

>>49285522
She's literally the perfect EN vtuber sis

[Anonymous No.]

>>49285349
When did they ever?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49285489
I guess she and Marine don't need it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49285540
Mad sis?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49285564
Everything about her is fake down to her voice and personality, the latter of which she admitted herself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49285653
Cope

[Anonymous No.]

>>49285257
When are we getting ads for hololive?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49285257
Advertising on 2-view twitch streams
This is a new low
Jfc why can't Cover just admit that tempoop were failures and stop chasing after fool's gold

[Anonymous No.]

>>49285588
i used the word serviceable since i struggle to think of a word that would apply to people who are acceptable to whatever standard internal EN management has for starsEN

[Anonymous No.]

>>49282568
Nta but aia isn’t struggling. Even if she was why bring up a shitter don’t compare gura or suisei’s sales to homos

[Anonymous No.]

Nijien median-peak so far in May

Luca: 6225
Shu: 4569
Mysta: 3795
Enna: 2753
Vox: 2691
Ike: 2493
Alban: 2392.5
Elira: 2268
Pomu: 2121
Uki: 2045.5
Nina: 1888.5
Selen: 1863
Rosemi: 1721.5
Sonny: 1677
Millie: 1641
Petra: 1395
Finana: 1372.5
Reimu: 1060

Enna is now the #4 ahead of two luxiem members, and is dramatically above the next-closest female.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49285769
>the raid baby is higher than most
NO FUCKING WAY
Fuck off already

[Anonymous No.]

>>49285257
There no way this is real they did none of this shit for the girls. I refuse to believe that hololive sank this far their legit putting out ads for tempus this also means they probably have another gen of males ready to debut.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49285769
god damn vox fell really hard

[Anonymous No.]

I'm going to miss her so much bros

[Anonymous No.]

>>49285814
It's actually not raids, it's mostly because of chinese-pandering.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49285833
A year back i would say the same

[Anonymous No.]

>>49285553
All I get from this is that some women are more womanly than other women and like to unload their emotional baggage onto others while some women feel hurt to see others worry about them. This matches up well with Fauna's moment in hindsight, I love her so much and would gladly belong in the latter camp

[Anonymous No.]

>>49285564
no, I could list a few faults.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49285257
Do you think Cover bought these ads themselves or is it possible a fan bought it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49285522
Bro did you not see the drama tally? There was like 5,000 posts if not more hashing out this topic. How much more do you even want?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49285769
Miload...

[Anonymous No.]

>>49285465
You basically only have access to Mori and even then there’s a big chance she doesn’t give a shit about you.
Tempus 2 shows what happens when the girls don’t have any sense of obligation of helping them out (some felt like they needed to help their first gen).

[Anonymous No.]

>>49285916
cope, any flaw is part of the idol SOUL and doesn't make content worse

[Anonymous No.]

>>49285769
post holoEN so far please.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49285257
It's funny that even in those ads they refuse to use the second batch of homos. They're really trying to memory hole them

[Anonymous No.]

>>49285769
>Enna is becoming the nijiEN star
they deserve the trash fans and trash management

[Anonymous No.]

>>49285960
Kobo

[Anonymous No.]

>>49285257
Axcelerate

[Anonymous No.]

>>49285932
Luca isn't much better. He's only the highest because of collab spam

[Anonymous No.]

>>49285257
so can anyone show me a succesful EN indie m*le vtuber

[Anonymous No.]

>>49285769
i remember an anon said alot of sisters started to checkout after Luxiems first anniversary, guess they came back around for their first outfits too and maybe more checked out then on top of Anycolors reputation being strung up by drama channels etc over past few months is finally having its toll.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49285845
not really it just demonstrates that median isn't accurate sometimes. we aren't even 2 weeks into the month. his median is low because he spammed too many debuff games and watchalongs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49281749
no, that's precisely what the problem was. it erased that distance; it was "unprofessional", or too "real". an entertainer doesn't need to say that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49285986
Anon just gura crush them all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49285986
Gura - 13k
Ina - 8.3k
IRyS - 7.9k
Fauna - 7.8k
Moom - 7.7k
Mori - 5.5k
Bae - 5.4k
Kronii - 5.4k
Ame - 4.2k
Kiara - 3.8k

[Anonymous No.]

>>49286084
Shoto, Aethel, RPR would probably be your best bets but even then
>shoto owes success to luxiem somewhat
>aethel has nyanners
>RPR is a convert

[Anonymous No.]

>>49285919
It's absolutely Cover
They were willing to ad-boost picrel to 2.5m views
The actual popularity of that video is likely less than 100k views, given how dismal the shorts versions of it did (all ~10k views)

[Anonymous No.]

>>49285900
there's a reason the only parts of Fauna's 12 minute speech that people focus on are the couple moments she puts her foot in her mouth. When you look at the speech in it's entirety it's plainly evident she cares a lot about her fans and simply doesn't want to hurt them or leave them disappointed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49286112
They started leaving in mass after Chinese new years from what I noticed.
New year, new you mentality maybe?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49286144
It's entirely obvious that you don't post about her with love so no one takes it seriously

[Anonymous No.]

>>49286163
Gura just did 1 game.
She needs to start after tomorrow collab to stream again

[Anonymous No.]

>>49284459
>you can self-insert as Miko.
I could, but I wouldn't want to.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49286178
Putting it on Niji homo is absolutely devilish

[Anonymous No.]

>>49286163
The Kiara line holds steady it seems.

[Anonymous No.]

Ah, so this is why Toko is popular

[Anonymous No.]

>>49286163
>amelia sub 5k
this is median peaks too? the fucks the average.

[Anonymous No.]

Selen is planning on grinding to predator
So expect her ccv to go down the shitter

[Anonymous No.]

>>49285529
Yeah sure but Marine have Umisea on her hand

[Anonymous No.]

>>49285553
FINALLY someone who actually understands that "Muh parasocial" doesn't mean that a talent loves their fans more

[Anonymous No.]

>>49286322
nice feet

[Anonymous No.]

>>49283262
>>49283320
>2023 95-35
>Another HoloEN top 3
>May11-1
TOTAL DOMINATION

[Anonymous No.]

>>49285769
>>49286112
To add to this. Luca has always been the Luxiem with the biggest NA audience because he streams NA time unlike Vox or Mysta
Shu as well had a more diversified audience because he's more popular with Nip women

The chinks are gone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49286387
>parasocial
>co-dependence
anon...

[Anonymous No.]

Just did my archive reps... And what a waste of my time that was. The amount of brainless falseflagging retarded pests shitting up the place is laughable. What a bunch of clowns. Was it a nijinigger raid? Of course it was.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49285257
Unironically what are we thinking for debut numbers for the inevitable Tempus3? Tempuke I guess.
I'm leaning towards sub 20k.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49286502
>sub 20k
that's to generous anon sub10k

[Anonymous No.]

>>49286302
I remember when the Kiara line was in danger of being breached...
Though if Kiara spams zelda streams at 2-3k CCV each, it'll be in danger again

[Anonymous No.]

>>49286387
Well, that is entirely up to interpretation and autistic word game definitions which aren't really worth debating.
Fwiw I agree with that anon's assessment of the girls but disagree with his conclusion. I do think a codependant love is generally superior because the girl is investing herself into her audience and their relationship. Is it HEALTHY? No probably not, neither for the girl or the audience. But love doesn't have to be healthy, just passionate.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49286489
>1% > 30%
What gave it away?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49286551
I want to go that far too but I feel like if it's looking too dire they'll have some of the girls step in to help again. It's not like they're looking at Tempoop's numbers with glee I imagine.

[Anonymous No.]

This grouping talk make me remember the SSS MV last year. Toward the end they gave screentime to the most random (actually not really) groups
These 3 get screen time but no Shiraken or Micomet or Umisea. Okakoro, Subachocoluna also get screen time as well

[Anonymous No.]

>>49286420
Luca's streams recently look like this
-- 1 million subs celebraion
-- Luxiem collab (botted pattern)
-- Luxiem dating simu
-- NijiEN dating show (2 pov)
He only did 2 "normal" streams which got 4k and 2.5k

Of course his average is high, it will fall later in the month

[Anonymous No.]

>>49285769
>>49286163
AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEE SISTERS WHERE'S OUR 80K

[Anonymous No.]

>>49286330
She's had some rough streams lately, both in content and time zone.

[Anonymous No.]

Youtube is shitting itself for me atm

[Anonymous No.]

It might be my tribalistic side or that I hate Niji with passion,
I just cant imagine that there are people who bought Niji products and infact close to the amount of Hololive bringing in similar sales revenue......

[Anonymous No.]

>>49286735
you can tell she's burnt out and wants to leave, but can't cause the money to good, also cover did her dirty by snipping her team and telling her she can't rent out the studio

[Anonymous No.]

>>49286772
Anon there's 54 Hololive members and 21 Stars, Niji has over 120 members

[Anonymous No.]

>>49285833
>they probably have another gen of males ready to debut
Nah, no way they do it before 600days+ has passed like it has for HoloEN or that would be undeniable favouritism, so I think we are safe for now

[Anonymous No.]

Why did NijiEN die? First? I thought you guys said the EN scene is grim but the SEA/CN nijikeks died first?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49282331
According to >>49281669, she got around $2k from the holofes key chains and acrylic. Even if you ignore all the cuts and costs, that's less than what she gets from an ASMR stream so technically she's right

[Anonymous No.]

>>49286584
Yeah but I don't feel as "loved" with that kind of codependent love, especially if the girl unloads all her troubles onto my mind but in return isn't putting in much effort to make me happy, on the other hands in the selfless love kind, I get loved and appreciated for basically doing nothing and just tuning in since the girl is giving it her all to keep me satisfied and she also keeps me worry free out of concern.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49286489
>archive reps..
This is what I like to see. An anon that actually does their reps unlike the dumb threadreading Spoonfeed begging Tourists..

[Anonymous No.]

>>49279574
>Fauna
>loving her fanbase

she's not your friend

[Anonymous No.]

>>49285769
>Enna
All the raids are going to kill her channel

[Anonymous No.]

Fauna is my girlfriend

[Anonymous No.]

I find this very hard to believe.

[Anonymous No.]

>~5% for non event merch
company focus
>~30% for birthdays
still company leaning
>~60% for anniversary
rewarding the talent for sticking with the company
>90% for graduation

i didn't read any sources just went off by a few posts
rrate

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>>49286861
>you can tell she's burnt out and wants to leave
If you were a member you would know this is not true
>also cover did her dirty by snipping her team and telling her she can't rent out the studio
Nice headcanon

[Anonymous No.]

>>49285349
Any reputable male streamer doesn't need to stream behind a gay anime avatar

[Anonymous No.]

>>49287010
Usually these things would be settled in silence so we unironically wouldn’t know when it happen

[Anonymous No.]

>>49286894
still, I am talking about volume... lets say fans bought 1million products of Hololive, its crazy to me that Nijifags also bought around 1million more or less pieces

[Anonymous No.]

>>49287010
why do you think Holo have less yabs than Niji?
Riku unironically should increase his work force instead of accelerating his livers

imagine the smaller Cover corp have more workers than Anykara

[Anonymous No.]

>>49286964
True she's something better than that, something you'll never have nijinigger.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49287073
unless one of her members streams/posts in the last 2-3 weeks since my 2.5 year membership ran its course said anything to the contrary, she was pretty damn burnt out/unmotivated.

[Anonymous No.]

>it's that time of day again
Anons... Please don't sap too hard now or the Falseflaggers will die from cringe

[Anonymous No.]

>>49281735
>stickers and keychains
lmao
I mean we have literal evidence Gura and Pekora are top merch sellers. They top the fucking third party charts. we got leaked BD merch for Pekora putting her at 1 million+ for her BD

[Anonymous No.]

>>49286861
Ame is like adhd personified - she gets passionate about something and then gets bored of it within weeks or months or else risk further burnout and potato episodes

[Anonymous No.]

>>49287184
there's no such thing as sapping too hard
Unicorn chads will prevail

[Anonymous No.]

>OH NO NO NO NO NO HOLOBROS!
KAELA IS TALKING ABOUT HAVING NO MONEY TO BUY "EXPENSIVE GAMES"
>WHERE IS YOUR 1% NOW HUH?!
WELL??!

>Kaela Used All Her Saving For PC Before Hololive But Forgot To Buy Monitor, Speaker, etc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDUxJy7nHKA

Boy, I love this blacksmith!

[Anonymous No.]

Flare needs orc correction for spamming this shit game

[Anonymous No.]

>>49287153
Being burn out or unmotivated does not mean wanting to leave

[Anonymous No.]

>>49287107
I don't see why its crazy to you, people can try and rrat about bots or w/e the fact is they do pull in numbers. Even looking at peak JST time a lot of the time holo and niji have over 100K people watching.

[Anonymous No.]

Why does Vspo's 3D look better than Holo and Niji?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49287244
Yeah, im the orc

[Anonymous No.]

>>49287252
oh sorry didnt realize you meant that part only.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49287231
>sapping
WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT .... that's a thing?
>Can I sap too?

[Anonymous No.]

>Use my teeth to scrape off and eat all the delectably delicious calluses from underneath Fauna's Feet. Slurp and lick her toes. Nibble and chew her toenails. And then DEEPTHROAT her ENTIRE foot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49287212
Ame fish tank was such a good idea and great start, no idea what happened to it
Magni had Judge Magni that was also really good that died too
I have no idea why they dont carry on with good ideas and go back to playing normal games

[Anonymous No.]

I kneel to fauna.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49287327
Nice feet

[Anonymous No.]

>>49287329
management would be my guess, both probably arent willing to put effort into getting everything screened and approved every single time they want to do anything but turning on a pre-approved video game? thats easy and no red tape.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49287231
SapCHADS. SapKINGS. and SapGODS. Run this thread.

[Anonymous No.]

management hate
fauna love

[Anonymous No.]

>>49287329
Big collabs like that probably require red tape to approve. Judging by EN management's actions the past year, it doesn't seem like they and the girls have an amicable relationship that would get approvals in a timely manner.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49287425
Sapling-kun, this is Astonishingly Based As Fuck, you know?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49287348
>words words words
If you kneel where is the kneel image?

[Anonymous No.]

Fauna pls

[Anonymous No.]

FAUNA SWEEP
FAUNA HOURS
FAUNA BOARD
FAUNA THREAD

[Anonymous No.]

I- I KNEEL FAUNA-SAMA

[Anonymous No.]

KNEEL TO MILLIEMAGE TOO!

[Anonymous No.]

>>49287400
>>49287488
what approvals though, they can just invite holotalents or people they have collabed before... I dont think its a management problem I think its a why put so much effort for something you can easily get by playing random game

[Anonymous No.]

>>49287673
no

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>>49282782
No he’s not consulting on holo earth. I didn’t watch the video so i can’t get the tone so I’ll give 2 answers
>A: He had plans for a bigger game and having holos in the game is an easy hit maker so his talks were a real backed by cover game
>B: He has another game he wants to slap holo paint on that all the girls liked. This could be creature capture like rick and morty pokemon or holo terraria type game
If it’s A it means holo AAA that will probably fail and B will probably be another solid game that gets kid gloves for reviews. Personally I would prefer A as even failed games aren’t a bad thing just look sonic. My problem is the time commitment can he get one done by next holofes. Either way it’s obvious cover has given him backup to finish faster

[Anonymous No.]

If we're lucky, Kiara and Ame graduate this year.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49287673
who is this girl?? Is she from Niji?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49287673
The only use for milliemage is to gift her to your opposition, and watch as she causes backfire after backfire.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

look at how easy this thread went back to licking Fauna's feet
Saplings really run this thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>49287742
If you're lucky you'd get front row seats of me having sweaty raw passionate sex with Kiara.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49287909
This thread? Try this fucking board. It's bullshit. Ame and Kronii got so much worse and the mods weren't doing shit about it

[Anonymous No.]

Omega's marketing team... What went wrong?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49288005
Ame and Kronii are beyond saving already with the "Improve yourself" and "unfortunately, idol culture is a thing" comments

[Anonymous No.]

>>49287955
It's SapKING hours anon. Get with the program and uuuuuuu with the rest of us.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49286163
Fauna is in 4th, 3rd if we exclude Gura who doesn't stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49287235
>BEFORE hololive
goddamn nijiniggers have lost it

[Anonymous No.]

>>49280601
he's male Kiara

[Anonymous No.]

>>49288005
Fauna is soft and needs protected

[Anonymous No.]

>>49288048
In a way we should be thankful for tempus for getting those mask off moments out of them

[Anonymous No.]

>>49288103
Mario Maker has been a disaster on her median.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49288048
And how is that any different from "Fauna and saplings cannot be friends".

[Anonymous No.]

Fuck's up with Reflect views anyway? It's at like 10-15k a day, it just started up again out of nowhere. Jewtube and the algo bullshit is such a headache of a platform

[Anonymous No.]

>>49287258
>that SGA difference
>nijisanji has 4 times the amount of streamers
Jesus

[Anonymous No.]

>>49288005
Mods use to run defense for mori but they switch from her to fauna, Mori recline is pretty grim

[Anonymous No.]

>>49286705
>Toward
It took me 5 seconds to remember this was a real word and not a variation of Towa's name.

Also PeBoT isn't that random. it's the biggest non gen3 group Pekora has.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49286163
>Gura - 13k
>Ina - 8.3k
>IRyS - 7.9k
>Fauna - 7.8k
>Moom - 7.7k
CGDCT これはベースードですよ~!

[Anonymous No.]

>>49288005
Ame and myth fags tend to just stay in /hlgg/

[Anonymous No.]

>>49286387
If you namefag your fans like Kiara and Kronii you clearly are more interested, than if you treat them as an amorphous blob.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49288219
>Immediately addresses it
vs
>keeping their shitty stances on homo
I choose the undefiled one

[Anonymous No.]

>>49288303
Sure but it stops being fun when you're not the one namefagged and in Kronii's case she literally hyperfocuses on a few.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49288303
I bet like girls who do the latter masturbate to their fans more than the girls who focus on cringe SCers

[Anonymous No.]

>>49283002
See I don’t like defending people let alone the big corporations but calling it stupid makes no sense. Ignoring all the noise it’s a good business practice.
Now adding the noise the talents don’t put any money towards it, they didn’t pay for the model, they don’t own the ip, and what you consider marketing is them streaming when, realistically speaking, they can be replaced. The percentage isn’t generous but it is standard.

Super chat farming is done by them, voice packs done by them, creating interesting streams done by them, making content worth paywalling is handled by them. They get a generous cut for all of these because they are directly involved.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49285257
My bet of T3 before EN3 is looking good right now. Like WTF is management even doing?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49288219
Why do you Nijifags larp as the most obtuse people on the board as if you're going to score points against Holo members?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49288277
aiEEEeeeeeee u-unicorn c-Chad-samaa AYAMARUUUUUU YURUSHITEKUDASAI

[Anonymous No.]

>>49288369
throw darts at the board hopping something sticks

[Anonymous No.]

>>49288005
>This thread? Try this fucking board.
Fauna sweep?
>FAUNA SWEEP!

[Anonymous No.]

>>49280414
They would probably end up streaming in US time slots anyway...

[Anonymous No.]

>>49288341
Literally didn't answer my question. All 3 were bad yet people defend one of them for no reason at all

>>49288406
Not an argument, nor am I nijifag

[Anonymous No.]

Is there someone like me who has given up on any hopes of EN3 and has basically accepted that IT comes when IT comes.....
The more I thought about it the more I got annoyed at Cover

[Anonymous No.]

Cute panties

[Anonymous No.]

>>49288509
I would never jerkoff to my friends Lewds but thankfully...

[Anonymous No.]

>>49288550
>no reason
I already give you my reason
Fauna remain unsullied by homo's hand while Ame/Kronii is already used goods
which one do you think I will choose?

[Anonymous No.]

Now that we know Holos make bank do you think HoloJP will start getting bombarded with hundreds of applications?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49288550
>for no reason at all
Not for no reason. For pure undistilled bonafide genuine 100% pure 200 grade love

[Anonymous No.]

>>49288552
BELIEVE BELIEVE BELIEVE.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49288552
I just never cared about it in the first place as I have my oshi already.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49288552
let them cook

on second thought
maybe it's a bit overcooked

[Anonymous No.]

>>49288550
We LOVE miss Ceres in this thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49288647
>do you think HoloJP will start getting bombarded with hundreds of applications?
Mate, even fucking VTA is likely swamped with hundreds of applicants, Hololive?
Chicks would drag their cooch over a yard of broken glass for a chance to become a Holo girl

[Anonymous No.]

>>49288552
After finding out that their putting out Tempus ads on Twitch, yes. No way EN3 is this year.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49288684
Based

[Anonymous No.]

>>49288767
That must be a bitter pill to swallow. Imagine ENStars3 before EN3.

[Anonymous No.]

Saplings are being cringe with their double standards again

[Anonymous No.]

uuu

[Anonymous No.]

>>49288767
Them putting ads on twitch means they haven’t found homos they want through auditions yet

[Anonymous No.]

>>49281735
>>49282391
>>49283278
>>49283042
>>49283077
>>49283121
>>49283281
This is an expo in Japan with a very small sample size of holofans. 150k+ if you include youtube were at or watching the expo. If you dropped all holo members to 5k core fans that is 270k minimum. Some obviously have more but if you think 15 or so thousand is an accurate representation of hololive in any meaningful way when the absolute minimum is that you’re probably just here to shitpost

[Anonymous No.]

>>49288684
Extremely based

[Anonymous No.]

>>49288835
I want some of your copium

[Anonymous No.]

whatchu finna do huh?
posting that "not a friend" shit again?
I have made my mind and I will not budge

[Anonymous No.]

En3 announcement is in less than 7hrs. In Yagoo we beleb

[Anonymous No.]

>>49288835
It also means they want homo3 as soon as possible.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49287712
There is a difference between a series and a one-off collab, especially if it involves multiple people. Chadcast and Holotalk are not treated the same as something like playing A Way Out or open VC in Minecraft and likely require specific permissions. For example, Koyori can't even mention or talk about things in Asakoyo without the permission of those involved, and that isn't even a collab show. And Ame's AM show and Fish Tank definitely fall into this category.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49283606
late but i saw someone sharing his supposedly main twitter and was a pomudachi

[Anonymous No.]

>>49288835
It means they still want more EnStars. Why? I do not know.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49288809
>double standards
Love is the epitome of double standard. Some chick has her hair all messed up and you’re indifferent, your girl is like that and you find it the cutest thing

[Anonymous No.]

>>49288924
holy kekaroni
no wonder he's that deranged
he's actually a nijinigger in disguise

[Anonymous No.]

>>49288552
I only wanted EN3 because everyone decided to be a lazy bitch at the same time but things are a bit better now

[Anonymous No.]

>>49288967
Must be sad to love a woman who doesn't love you

[Anonymous No.]

>>49289075
I unironically love about 30 women at the same time anon