Hunter Myth General

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Previous Thread:
>>4889545

Character Creation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPyOZkyIosc
First Tutorial Session with Kiara
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hB5QuSYBKw

Ina next week!

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People are already shipping characters, huh?

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>>4957867
>actual goblin

Not this shit again. At this point Mori should unironically let Ame play a fucking changeling goblin.

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>>4957694
how fucking old is Vic?
is Mori forcing holoEN to enter her magical realm of shots?

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>>4957694
I still think this should belong to /tg/ since this is tabletop game.

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>>4959535
The only stream that's allowed there is Critical Role, and even that gets people pissed off/astroturfing/trolling/etc. You wouldn't be able to have a coherent discussion there. Not that /vt/ is any better sometimes, but at least here you don't need to see faggots crying that there's an "anime woman on the screen".

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Can't wait for the next one. Ina probably won't go full retard like Kiara did in places but she has a tendency to freeze in stressful situations.

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>>4959535
>>4960258
Talking about it here and in the WoD/CofD general makes the most sense IMO.

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>>4959535
>>4960258
Talking about it here and in the WoD/CofD general makes the most sense IMO.

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>>4957867
We don't even know what they look like yet, lol

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Tiara was actually pretty timid until they stole her bird at which point she tried to keep it a little too real and got beat up and shot for her trouble. Ina seems into the role play aspect and was using Bayonetta as inspiration so I have high hopes. She gets very invested in story driven games and Mori seems to have a knack for storytelling.

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>>4960258
>>4960476
There’s a thread up there called holo myth or something.

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I am completely clueless about TTRPGs, is there a tl;dr resource for this shit? preferably for whatever game they're playing

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>>4960882
So there is, but it's a terrible thread.

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>>4960909
Do you want a tl;dr on the game, or a tl;dr on where to find resources to play the game, like its rulebooks and such?

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I noticed some anons in older threads worried that Ina would be too easily set to follow the rails Mori prepared (as in, follow any first plot hook that shows up), but for a tutorial session I don't see any problem with it. Some new players tend to do it anyways, because they don't want to be a bother to the GM or because they still have a videogame mindset of automatically following the dot on the minimap.

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>>4960909
A group of players pretend to be characters and are led through a story/scenario by a game master who creates the setting. Beyond that it is incredibly variable. You have super combat heavy games like old school Dungeons and Dragons which were really just dungeon crawls. You can have sessions that are purely non combat social interaction and everything in between. Dice are used to resolve whether characters succeed or fail at things based on the skills and stats they have. World of Darkness which the girls are playing sort of has a muddled history and the older version feels like the one people are most familiar with:the Vampire the Masquerade game was based on that setting. Hunter is a subset that’s even more obscure and really the ultimate rule of TTRPG is ultimately the GM decides what the rules are and Mori is already home brewing as she goes. Honestly if you just watch the info stream and Kiaras 1:1 you’ll get the gist pretty quickly. It might actually be more fun to experience it learning about the world as the girls do. Especially since it’s common to throw the rules books out the window when crossing streams setting wise (vampire/werewolf/mage etc sort of suffer from hero always wins in their comic crossover though that’s better than it used to be).

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I'm kinda hoping Ame's character uses a Go-Pro and livestreams to "her audience," basically us, chat. Give something for chat to interact with the story to a degree.

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>>4961322
I would really hope not. That's the sort of thing that can quickly ruin a game, especially a horror game.

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>>4961322
I hope for the opposite actually. The moment you start pandering to an audience in TTRPGs is the moment you start having to bow to tumblr-tier snowflakes who will get upset at the slightest negative thing that happens to their favorite character. That's already present in VTubing, yes. But this is something far beyond that. We're talking getting a sponsored 4 hour stream pulled completely from the internet because they were assmad at the sponsor levels of autistic meltdowns.

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>>4958209
I can't wait for Watoto to be revealed as an Ugandan-American conspiracy theorist drug peddler.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUK8EMX25VI

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>>4960998
well I'm not planning on playing this any time soon, I just need enough info so I'm not lost while watching the streams
>>4961150
ty anon

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>>4961415
This sounds very specific?

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>>4961775
Because it is. Context: Critical Role, the biggest and most popular TTRPG stream out there, went from simply being a showcase of a home game to a pandering mess of a campaign where woke and lulrandumb meant more than story and anything at all with consequences. We're talking spitting in the face of a queen, stealing ships, and more without any repercussions. All because the rabid fanbase bitched out the players/GM on social media to the point that it was either go woke or go broke.

My example was the fact that the players/GM of Critical Role were sponsored by Wendy's to do a oneshot using the Wendy's roleplaying system (which actually isn't that bad but that's besides the point). The tumblr landwhales in the community got absolutely anally ravaged about a rrat that Wendy's was fucking over mexican workers and went on a crusade to have the oneshot removed from the internet. And they won. If you think Zhang is bad, you've not met a Critter.

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>>4961988
What the everloving fuck? Though I’m sad I’m not that surprised. Honestly nWoD has their own issues on that front. Okay I’ll just avoid that going forward. I’m almost tempted to find out what a Wendy’s rpg is though.

One thing I like about Hololive: no way they are wading into that kind of stuff. The girls have more sense than that by and large.

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>>4962336
The Wendy's RPG is basically a reskin of Dungeons & Dragons 5e with meta rewards for eating specific Wendy's food items. Fun for a oneshot but not anything you want to do long term.

And yeah, hopefully the girls do have more sense to kowtow to the type of person that unironically watches Critical Role. WoD streams have been getting better since LA by Night, but all it takes is the wrong person getting offended and the next thing you know cancellings start happening.

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NWoD nerds. Yuul decides to weld a bunch of silverware to the front bumper of a delivery van (size 16) and drives at 40 mph (road rage double speed bonus) into a werewolf standing on the street corner. How much damage? And what type(s)? Asking for a friend

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>>4962936
It'd be like 7 Bashing or 7 Aggravated depending on the ST.

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>>4963019
Oh wait, Calli is ST and using broken ass oWoD rules for some reason. So that could be like 12 or 13 damage average.

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>>4958209
I can’t decide if I’d prefer a Sir Bearington Scenario with Tiara as the one suspecting, or a reverse Bearington where Watoto is actually a normal human but the others are convinced he isn’t. Or even better Ame and Mori keep it secret though that’s a lot for a first session

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>>4957694

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After watching Calli in action, I kinda want to run my own VTuber chronicle of Vampire. I realize this is a terrible idea.

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What are the twitter hashtags again?

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>>4958209
I just want him to be a normal, gross conspiracy theorist where the others OCCASIONALLY joke that he's not human.
Although a side changeling campaign one day if this one goes well would also be fun.

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>Kiara wanted to do a short burst with Gunslinger
>The 2e version of the merit (the 1e version let you make two attacks when you hold two pistols)
>Even though she did not pick it as a merit, but as a specialization of firearms
>She said she "had" four points on gunslinger, counting her firearm dots

C'MON. I don't mind being lenient on the rules and prioritizing RP but this just silly. It's pretty clear that Calli just sent them the list of 2e merits that is on the Codex of Dakrness site.
Calli should had just asked them to read the merit section on the actual book, as she did say she bought/gave the book to them, or at the very least make her own list.

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>>4963607
wodcodex even has a 1e merit list. I've no real idea how they managed to mess this up as badly as they did.

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>>4963224
>>4963583
I want Watoto to be conspiracy theorist Nobby Nobs. Or just Nobby.
>>4963515
#huntermyth - general
#mythbreakers - fan content
#mythTapes - BGM
#mythTheories -theories
#memeBreakers - memes

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>>4963607
>Expecting players to read the material the GM gives to them

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>>4957867
that's just the horde of existing underage iname schizos swarming for fresh material

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>>4963680
The 1e list only includes merits that you must obligatory be a human to have like unseen sense and sleepwalker/wolfblooded. It does not have the general merits.

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>>4964252
I'd read the materials my GM gives me. I'd at least be excited for the possibility of playing.

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>>4960355
I hope she gets as into roleplaying as Kiara did

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>>4961037
The problem is that following every plotthread the GM throws at you doesn't leave much room for roleplaying.

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>>4961322
God please no.
I'd actually fucking unsubscribe. That is peak THAT GUY shit

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>>4963607
I'd say clearing up the rules and character sheets is very much on Mori in this situation since she's playing with 4 people that are completely new to this setting and ruleset.

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>>4963607
> Her main character ability is behind really good with guns
> She wanted to fire her guns really fast at people standing right in front of her
I'm all for RP but this is silly. She can't do that in 2e without a merit, not just a specialization and high skill

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So, between the Phoenix pendant and Watoto being a "herb" dealer, they're probably going to end up joining the Jagged Crescent under the Ascending Ones, right? Kind of a gamble to play it any other way, with the religious history of the other two factions in the AO. In the JC, they can just be drug dealers who also kill spooky shit.

Or maybe Kiara just has the Phoenix pendant because she's Kiara and I'm looking too much into this.

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>>4958209
It's a Nobby Nobbs-type deal where Watoto has to carry papers signed by whoever delivered him and some government functionary certifying that he’s probably human.

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>>4970263
IIRC the Ascending Ones have a faction that's more occult than religious, and that one's probably fine too, but yeah not sure about the religious one. Then again, JPs love their spooky church organizations so maybe it'll be fine.
Also, I just got the joke with the ASCENDING Ones.ascending = getting high, geddit?

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>>4970263
Egypt has been namedropped already so Ascending Ones are at least going to make a cameo. I assumed Calli is just going to keep it small and contained with a Cell-level business without namedropping an existing Conspiracy, but who knows.
And I don't think Calli is going to make a prominent deal about the whole religious part of it and focus on that hermetic magic shit, and even if she does I'm sure the internet isn't going to make a big deal that a bunch of anime girls are playing a RPG that has christians and muslims tagging along to fight vamps.

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>>4970263
Egypt has been namedropped already so Ascending Ones are at least going to make a cameo. I assumed Calli is just going to keep it small and contained with a Cell-level business without namedropping an existing Conspiracy, but who knows. I say that because I hope she doesn't put Tiara as the main focus of the chronicle because she has a McGuffin, leaving the other three as tag-alongs who get dragged into it, I personally avoided doing that when I GMed for people.
And I don't think Calli is going to make a prominent deal about the whole religious part of it and focus on that hermetic magic shit, and even if she does I'm sure the internet isn't going to make a big deal that a bunch of anime girls are playing a RPG that has christians and muslims tagging along to fight vamps.

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>>4972360
>I say that because I hope she doesn't put Tiara as the main focus of the chronicle because she has a McGuffin, leaving the other three as tag-alongs who get dragged into it
I'm not too worried about it. Getting a drug dealer involved with the Ascending Ones on their own is easily possible (since that's already their turf), so that's already 2/4. And Yuul depends a lot on what Ina makes the focus of their research, but getting pushed toward occult stuff shouldn't be too hard either. The only problem is Gura, and that's more a matter of "who knows what concept Gura has even settled on" than anything.

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>>4972522
In my experience, some players really don't mind having their characters tagging along, within reasonable explanation to why they don't just fuck off ("I'm in too deep to get out" or "as long as I get paid extra big in the end" always works). And hey, there's only 4 characters which makes it easy to juggle the spotlight between them, it'll be difficult for one of them to feel left out by their fans, so I'm positive Calli has a plan to get Gura's character involved and will push it for her in character creation. If the shark keeps up the idea of her PC being a child then it's easier when a character has even less agency to be pushed around by a friendly NPC or an overarching enemy.

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>>4957867
>A literal goblin
AHHHHHHHHHHHH GOD FUCKING DAMMIT PURGE THOSE FUCKING NIGGERS OF ARTISTS WITH NUCLEAR FIRE

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>>4964252
please, I desperately need this to bedited with HoloMyth

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>>4963515
#mythrape is the music one.

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>>4963937
>>4963515
Don't forget #mythrapes for lewds

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>>4959535
but I want to talk about it without /tg/ derailing it, if this belongs there then holofightz belong on /v/

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Should Tiara crush on Yuul

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>>4960909
tl;dr

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>>4976788
Let's wait for all tutorial streams before shipping.

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>>4963583
>Changelings kidnap Watoto thinking he is one of them, even though he is human.

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>>4976359
It's shit but here you go

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The stream I'm most interested in and worried about is Gura's. Her sheet basically needs a rewrite and she seems the least knowledgeable about TTRPGs in general. Wrangling her ideas into a somewhat plausible human being is going to be a struggle.

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>nobody has 5 dots in a combat skill
They're fucked.

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>>4970263
Kiara having a written up backstory makes her easy to tie into things.
Though I think Mori came up with the phoenix pendant.

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>>4983125
>5 dots in anything at chargen
Fuck off minmaxer.

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>>4983177
>just talk things out with the supernatural monstrosities bro

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>>4983125
Kiara is genuinely the only one who can use a gun, isn't she?

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Would the girls be able to handle a system with a little more crunch?

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>>4983577
>your boi
>shark brain
>bird brain
>one braincell tako
>Amelia "Brute force" Watson
No way in hell. I think the highest treshhold for them would be new WFRP with it's multiple bonus SPs tracking. Even CoC with 1/2ths and 1/5ths could be challenging for some of them.

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>>4983577
I don't think they're cut out for GURPS or Mekton, but if they can handle WoD they can probably handle most things below Shadowrun-tier complexity.
I personally wanna see Paranoia

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>>4958209
It's an old one.

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>>4961322
>Ame uses a Go-Pro to stream her encounters
>Mages, werewolves, vampires, and any other fucking monster out there puts them at the top of their hit list for containment breaching
>Their whole party wipes in the next session
Good idea if you hate the project.

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>>4960355
Just like me. This will be fun.

>>4963414
Why?

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>>4985200
It could work as an intro. A conspiracy-obsessed idiot in tinfoil looking for proof government is aliens in disguise accidentally films vampires or some other shit like this but loses all proof while fleeing for his life and ends up joining the rest. Now his theories include the beings he encountered. Doesn't sound too far from absolutely real Alex Jones.

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>>4983125
You literally can't at chargen.

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>>4983348
Ina also can.

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>>4983207
Supernatural monstrosities will always have the advantage in combat they have abilities that are completely bullshit by human standards. So yes. Talking to them at least some of the time is literally the only viable long term strategy.

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>>4985853
That's a cope. The climax of every RPG is always a big fight. There is never any excuse to not max out your combat abilities.

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>>4986013
Have you tried not playing DnD?

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>>4983125
5 dots in any skill, is like, a lot a lot. When I made my combat changeling she had only 4 dots with a specialty in swords. And that was the highest I could go, because combat is actually not that lot of what you do in these games.
>>4983207
Unironically possible depending on what it is. Vampires are very social creatures. Paranoid and backstabbing, but social creatures. Out-witting them at their own game would be a master-stroke of planning and execution but would also circumvent their strongest asset, in that even with equal dots in combat skills, they're still better than you cause Vitae.
>>4986013
Call of Cthulhu is the prime example of this literally not being the case. The closest thing in Call of Cthulhu is a end game big massacre of PC characters when they fail to stop the ritual. A big fight is the simplest and most commonly used, this is true. But it's stupid to think It's the ONLY way.

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>>4986179
>5 dots in any skill, is like, a lot a lot.
It's perfectly fine. Every character should have at least one combat ability at 5, no matter who they are.
>Unironically possible depending on what it is. Vampires are very social creatures.
Conversing with a vampire is the stupidest thing you can do because of how many mind affecting powers they have.
>A big fight is the simplest and most commonly used, this is true.
So you agree with a maxed out combat pool being mandatory.

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>>4983125
Anon, now this is not the same gameline they're playing but pic related is what the dots roughly represent.

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>>4986461
It doesn't matter what the devs say the dots "represent", it's +1 die per all the way through. It makes no fucking sense to begin with because half of the dice pool isn't even based on the skill dots.

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>>4986328
>It's perfectly fine. Every character should have at least one combat ability at 5, no matter who they are.
No, not every fucking character should be at the absolute peak of human ability in a combat skill
Are you fucking retarded or do you just never play games and live in whiteroom debates?

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>>4986541
I've been playing these games longer than you've been alive.

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>>4986586
Stop playing DnD

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>>4971107
The three major factions in them are The Order of the Southern Temple which is all western occult Hermeticism, The Knife of Paradise which is mostly Christians, Jews, and Muslims and is all "Holy war, but also peace and cooperation", finally there is the Jagged Crescent and that's all crime, gangs, and street thugs. JC seems like a more likely approach t me personally,

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>>4972360
The Ascending Ones are one of the easiest Conspiracies to incorporate into Tier 1. The Jagged Crescent faction of them is already street-level. Any sort of gang or criminal organisation could have ties to them.

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>>4986537
>It doesn't matter what the devs say the dots "represent", it's +1 die per all the way through
>The narrative of an RPG doesn't matter, it's all about numbers
Oh boy.

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>>4990048
That kind of dissonance is present in just about every RPG. Devs say one thing but the mechanics say something completely different.

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>>4990257
Except the mechanics don't say something different. A skill doesn't grant more than 5 dots sans specialisation, so 5 dots is the best someone can be at said skill. Ergo it's peak potential. If your PC gets 5 dots they are exceptionally skilled at said thing.

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>>4990776
The mechanics say each dot is 1 extra die. That's all they say.

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>>4990908
And how do you mechanically gain more than 5 dice from a Skill sans specialisation?

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>>4990982
Who cares? The difference between 2-3 dots and 5 dots isn't big enough to warrant all the wanking of the latter.

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>>4991081
If the difference isn't all that big then 5 dots can't be mandatory.

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>>4991118
There is no reason not to maximize your dice pool for the part of the game where your character is most likely to die permanently.

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>>4991166
>the part of the game where your character is most likely to die permanently when the ST either is too incompetent to balance encounters or is enough of an asshole to be deliberately trying to kill the party rather than telling a story.
Yep, it's definitely the character builds that are the problem here.

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>>4986013
>The climax of every RPG is always a big fight.
lol

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>>4986013
>The climax of every RPG is always a big fight

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>>4991166
Except for the whole narrative thing, and that +1 dice not making a massive deal so you could put it in an untrained skill which is a much bigger swing. Even mechanically it's a more efficient use of the point.

>>4991396
What are you talking about? Death is 100% a thing that can happen in Hunter. Stakes are important for a story and that means risk, and so that means someone might die. PCs should not be immune to the consequences of stupid choices either.

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>>4982765
>It's shit
No, senpai, it's perfect.

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>>4991396
>If your character dies then the ST is incompetent
You're a retard.

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>>4986013
>There is never any excuse to not max out your combat abilities.
Imagine being this much of a nogame.

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>>4991396
>muh perfectly balanced encounters
Spotted the D&Dtard.

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So it begins

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>>4986586
I literally never saw anyone with 5 dots in combat skills in WoD. You can't have 5 dots at character creation and advancing skills to 5 is way too expensive to be worth one die.

I bet you never ever played it.

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>>4991495
>Stakes are important for a story and that can only possibly mean combat with enemies that are rolling upwards of eight dice.
Yep, it's pretty clear which kind of ST you are.

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>>4991839
I don't ST, I'm a player. But seriously, what sort of RPGs do you play? Death is very much a factor of all WoD games, new and old.

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>>4991836
The devs literally made the costs for skills linear in the new editions of WoD because they realized just how retarded it was to put 5 dots on such a high pedestal.

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>>4991884
nWoD 1e still uses scaling XP costs, because it had yet to figure out how unfun that is.

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>>4991625
>Every game that doesn't have explicit balance guidelines must therefore be a showdown in the murderdome.
Spotted the nogames

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>>4991836
He posted the same initial bait on /tg/ but got no bites. He's been outing himself as a no-games nigger with his /v/ideogame-like ideas, but hey whatever keeps this thread alive.

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>>4992036
>the ST must keep me alive at all times or he's bad
Spotted the retard.

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>>4991081
You complete fucking retard.

World record for 100m run is 10.49 for a woman and 9.58 for a man. That's a 10% difference for a massive difference in strength. Difference between 4 and 5 die is 20%.

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>>4992182
>Holding back from sending threats that only a combat god could survive is equal to babysitting the characters.
Now you're just being retarded on purpose.

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>>4992506
>muh real life
Humans don't operate on a 1-5 scale you dumb fuck.

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>>4992591
But stats are an abstraction of human prowess.

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>>4992611
Non sequitur.

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>>4992690
Oh you're just trolling, or actually retarded.

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>>4992573
>any ST that has anything stronger than a newborn in his game is bad because it might hurt the players
You're genuinely braindead.

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>>4992506
>Difference between 4 and 5 die is 20%.
>thinking you have a 20% higher chance of rolling a 7+ on one of the d10s if you have 5 dice rather than 4.
Not just nogames but nomath as well, holy shit this is getting sad.

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>>4991884
They did? Last I checked even V5 still had scaling cost. And honestly it makes sense, 5 in a skill is something Olympic champion should have.

V5 chargen is a massive improvement tho. You are no longer forced to minmax.

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>>4992591
You are seriously retarded stop posting.

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>>4992935
That's not what they're saying. They're saying there is a 20% difference between 4 and 5 dice, because 1 is 20% of 5. Besides you need an 8+ for a success here, which you'd know if you knew the game.

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>>4992935
You have 20% more dice to roll in a skill retardo. Stop trying to save face this is honestly pathetic.

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>>4992985
They made it non-scaling in CofD games. They also totally changed up the entire XP system as well so it doesn't really map onto oWoD like you'd think. Non-scaling is way way better for the game though IMO. None of it matters though as it still scales in the nWoD1e games

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>>4992985
>V5

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>>4993164
Yes it's shit but some ideas are nice.

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>crossboarder dumbfucks completely derail the thread
Thanks /tg/ schitzos

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>>4993247
>nooo you can't just talk about the game they're playing or how they play it

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>>4993247
He's probably not even from /tg/ he obviously never played the game.

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>>4993295
And that would somehow stop him from being from /tg/?

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>>4993287
Nobody cares about your neckbeard game, nigga

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>>4993247
Still better than the type of crowd that this game will inevitably attract. Pic-related is what happened to Critical Role, and this is the most tame screenshot from the landwhale Twitter rampaging.

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>>4992841
>enemies can only be newborns or minmaxed Gangrel.
It's like I'm actually back on /tg/, biting at shitty bait.

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>>4993402
Sounds just like /vt/.

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>>4991166
Dude you have no idea what you are talking about. They are normal humans going against monsters. 1 more dot in a combat skill won't save them if they make a retarded decision like Kiara's attempt to fight 4 armed monsters.

You need a good variety of skills. Good stealth, good knowledge, bare minimum of social skills. Hunters win by planning not by hitting harder.

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>>4993473
>enemies can only be newborns or minmaxed Gangrel
According to you.

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>>4993385
Ah yes, I forgot how bad it is nowadays.

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>>4993053
You're right, I'm probably remembering Exalted, it's been a while and I do more than just play tabletop games.

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>>4993517
>there is dangerous shit in the world that can kill you
>which is why you shouldn't max out your combat pool
Retard logic.

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>>4993569
Well if you, or anyone else, cares the difference between 4 dice and 5 for nWoD1e rules (which they'll hopefully start using) see attached. Those values are you chances to roll *at least* that amount of successes. So you'd always get at least 0, but you've got a 75.99% chance to get at least 1 on 4 dice. This is only half the equation really though, as that's not including their Attributes which could be another 1-5 dice, or a Skill Specialisation which would be another 1 die.

If anyone wants the code for that it's here, you can replace "{4, 5}" with any values you like. If you want {1, 10} would give you just 1 and 10, but {1.. 10} would be 1 through 10. There are also graphs and stuff if that's easier for y'all.
https://anydice.com/program/22b5f

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>>4989730
Eh Malleus is also easy to adapt to street level.

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>>4993618
Maxing out your combat pools is less useful to a Hunter than acquiring Merits, and Tactics. Tactics need other skills to opperate, if you just go all in on combat you'll suck at some really important stuff. That's not even getting into Endowments, how important social skills are for hunting in general, and y'know, the fact that narrative is actually important.

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>>4993164
Literally the best edition

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>>4993719
>Maxing out your combat pools is less useful to a Hunter than acquiring Merits, and Tactics.
No, it's not. The majority of merits and tactics is fucking trash. Having 10+ dice to throw around with every attack is far more useful.

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>>4993295
Sounds like he'd fit right in

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>>4993540
Says the guy that thinks paying any attention to balancing an encounter means putting the party against helpless babies.
I mean, I know it's bait at this point, I'm just biting out of boredom at this point.

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>>4993856
>Having 10+ dice to throw around with every attack is far more useful.
Anon at least pretend that you have played the game before

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>>4994004
You are currently throwing a tantrum about how anything that can kill a player means the ST is bad. You're an inane moron.

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>>4994011
Whatever you need to cope.

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>>4993691
I said one of the easiest, not the only easy one. The whole "Vampires, then Witches, then Demons" thing might make sense for current campaign but if we're going that route they aren't who I'd like to see. It's the Cainite Heresy that would be my go to if they're doing vampire stuff. Those dudes are a lot of fun.

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>>4994067
No, and anyone else reading the conversation can understand that.

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>>4994680
You're not going to backpedal out of this >>4991396

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>>4994340
I don't like those because the term is hardwired to oWoD to me

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>>4990982
Magic.

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>>4993618
You don't max out your combat shit because it's too expensive better get a lot of lower level skills in stuff that may be useful.

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>>4993618
And then the vampire with Dominate puppets you around because you have no defense other than "I hit hard" and your biggest asset become a massive liability for the rest of your party as your character turns on them.

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>>4995668
The vampire can dominate you even if you don't have any combat skills.

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>>4995747
True, but Mori did mention that willpower will be important, and Resolve is part of that.
Did any of the girls even remember that Mori said willpower will be important?

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>>4995747
Sure but Resolve + Composure is what you use to resist vs Fury. Maxing out your combat pool ignores other vital parts of your character. Wits + Resolve is for Hypnotism too. Both of which suck to be hit with and are a common Dread Powers for Vamps.

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>>4993402
Wait tell me more I stopped watching cr a long time ago

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>>4995907
She didn't go over what Willpower does in the tutorial with Kiara.
However I think only Kiara and Yuul have significant willpower.
Ame had 2 or 3

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Are they actually using oWoD? The rules for that are terrible.

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>>4996141
See >>4961988

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>>4996378
They're playing Hunter the Vigil 1e, which is a nWoD, but the tutorial session had some weird shit where Calli was using oWoD dice rules. Hopefully they'll clear that up for next session as nWoD is not in any way built for it. There was also some weirdness with stuff between editions too.

>>4996221
Went and checked. Kiara has 5, Gura has 3, Ame has 3, Ina has 6.

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>>4996544
Fuck RIP Ame and Gura.

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Based on their sheets, what are each characters the best at? Like Tiara is obviously talking to birds and guns, but what about the others

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>>4996675
They're all pretty bad at everything.

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>>4996378
They're using nWoD, but Calli is homebrewing some weird hybrid with oWoD in terms of systems so far. We're not sure where the lore is going yet, and since the streams are relatively massive in terms of viewership for White Wolf streamed games there's a non-zero chance that whatever she does might be officially incorporated somewhere down the line.

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>>4996675
Stats and skills are rated 1-5, 1 is below average and 5 is peak human potential. Specialisations are basically a +1 when you use that skill for that specialisation. Merits are just perks that give you special bonuses. All the names should make it obvious what each is good for. Feel free to ask any questions though.

Kiara's highest stats are all 3's which is just above average, and are Intelligence, Strength, Presence, Resolve, and Stamina. Her Dexterity and Composure are both average at 2, with her Wits, and Manipulation being 1's. Firearms and Animal Ken are her highest skills both at 4, and they have a Specialisation for "Gunslinger" and "Bird Communication" respectively. Gunslinger is supposed to be a Merit though. Other than that they've got solid Weaponry, Crafts, and Empathy. Her Merits are all just combat stuff, she's got a good bit of health and is the most dangerous in the group.

Gura and has really high Wits, Dexterity at 4 each, and her Manipulation is at peak human prowess of 5. She sucks at literally everything, with only 2 more stats being above a 1. Skill-wise it's a similar story her Persuasion is stupidly high, and her Stealth and Subterfuge are solid, but not much else going on. Just very sneaky and talky. She's also blind, maybe. We're all expecting her sheet to change a fair bit though. She came in expecting a different sort of game and her sheet is a bit of a mess.

Ina is pretty average Attributes-wise with only Composure being at 4. She's got great Crafts at 4, and then solid Drive and Academics at 3, with Merits like Roadkill and Automotive Genius to really play up some aggressive driving stuff.

Ame has nothing super notable statwise except Manipulation at 4. She went very jack of all trades on her Mental skills. With Crafts, Investigation, Medicine, Occult, and Politics at 2, with Computers at 1. She also has a Alchemy specialisation in Crafts. She's also got Larceny at 2 with a specialisation in pick pocketing. She's got some weird stuff going on with her Merits because Calli sent them a list for the wrong edition. She wants to be an investigator that's got quick reflexes and can take a hit or two though.

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>>4997602
They all have merits that don't actually exist in nWoD 1st edition since they used the 2nd edition list.
I don't quite know what to think of the attribute allocations,Besides gura's which is atrocious , especially for Kiara's lack of a 4, but that could be balanced out by a better spread.

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>>4996544
>Kiara has 5, Gura has 3, Ame has 3, Ina has 6.

Ouch this is gonna hurt.

Also, I'm pretty sure Mori didn't tell them they can spend willpower to get +3 dice on a roll.

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>>4996675
Ina seems the most balanced.

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>>4996221
Willpower isn't terribly useful RAW. Unless Calli is planning to use it as a dice pool for supernatural shit I wouldn't worry about it.

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>>4998310
Yeah but most of them have close enough parallels. Ame's stuff really doesn't work. Investigative Prodigy interacts with systems nWoD doesn't have a match for.

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>>4998310
Gura's whole character was a fucking mess and who even knows if what she actually brings to the table is going to look anything like it did at the end of the original collab.

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>>4998327
She told them on the first stream, but did not mention it on Kiara's prologue.

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>>4997602
Somebody tell them you are not allowed to start with skills at 4 and attributes at 5. You can only increase them later with exp.

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>>4998994
That is not true.

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>>4998617
Human Prey also relies heavily on CofD systems.

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>>4999161
It's different between editions. Just checked and in Hunter 1e you can get them all the way to 5 but 5th dot costs 2x more.

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>>4999474
Yeah, like I said it's not true here.

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>>4999165
Oh yeah, Human Prey is using Conditions.

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I don't think they should focus on combat skills or anything but 2-3 in guns is always a good idea. Always. Ame and Gura will be utterly useless in a fight. Also a group of hunters without even one person skilled in explosives won't live long.

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>>4957867
>another actual goblin fanart
why can't these people do at least a little research into the setting goddamn it
DND HATE
FANART HATE
sorry, this just really triggers my autism

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>>4999639
what even is gura's character? She changed it like 3 times

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>>4999639
What do explosives even fall under in nWoD?
I can see arguments for technology and maybe crafts.
Did that series ever get picked up again?

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>>5000547
Depends, Dexterity + Athletics for thrown ones like grenades or Intelligence + Science for triggered ones like C4

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>>5000512
Weird shadow lady with a boxcutter. But it probably changed already.

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>>5000512
What 5001090 said, but she's also asked about playing a child character, and I remember something about being a courier and/or having a banjo so who knows.

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>>4983577
This is from a joke article in a magazine

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>>4984547
CoC you write all the 1/2 and 1/5 values on your character sheet so you don't actually calculate them.

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>>5001090
Didn't she have a bit of Dandy Man too with the thrown cards and mail?

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How would you have tackled the house assault in Kiara's tutorial episode, using her character?

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>>5005142
Ah right, I forgot people do that. Too much hustle when you "level up" skills imho.
But even then that does not change a fact that then you have fucking with luck and I can already see Gura failing miserably subtracting in range of 100.

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>>5005388
>Don't go through front door
>Check the rooms where there are no enemies
>When all is lost throw Vic at them, grab my owl and jump through first window I see

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>>4999639
It depends on what replaces Alchemy once Calli explains to Ame that's a Mage thing. High probability she wants to make explosives.

Or she leaves it in and Calli just treats it like super-chemistry that can't be explained until a Mage shows up and kidnaps Watoto for knowing too much

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Seeing Hunter Myth has got me reading up on the Slasher book again. Planning on using the book and forcing it to work for a 2e game. Anyone think Calli is going to bust out Slashers? I doubt it, but a man can hope. Especially since everyone is going to understand slasher antagonists a lot more easily than they would the specific rules of werewolves, vamps and changelings.

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>>5008573
Or she just uses it as "drug cooking"

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>>4963607
>>4969745
to further confuse matters, I think she has the merit as well, actually

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>>5005170
>Dandy Man
I was getting more Read or Die vibes from what she was saying

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>>5009126
Just so you know Slashers are the main antagonist of the 2e book, they get a full section about them with all their Undertakings in the core book. You'll only need Slashers for more fluff and maybe a couple of powers. They get like 50 pages, although 5 or so of those are information on a Slasher focused Compact, Nine Stars (They're new, mostly made up of Hong Kong police), and a Conspicuous, VASCU.

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>>5010233
>Conspicuous, VASCU.
Conspiracy, I mean

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>>5010233
Oh neat, I love that. I don't think they make for good main book antagonists, however. I liked VASCU, but I dislike that they play with psychic magic stuff? Like, if I were playing an FBI department, I'd want to be a cop, like Valkyrie are soldiers instead of relying on magic nonsense.
I like that there is an anti-slasher compact however. Should make for some excellent times!
I sincerely hope we see at least one. I don't care which one it is at all, I just wanna see a single one of them.

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>>5006462
Leveling up skills is pretty painless, you just put a check mark next to the skill when you succeed at it and after the session it's just roll over current skill then add 1d10. For luck, spending luck is an optional rule most people don't even bother with cause it leads to too far a downward spiral for players.

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Does anyone else have character sheets of their players?

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>>5013551
https://twitter.com/moricalliope/status/1397338578502381574?s=20

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They should play VtMB and do Shadows House watchalong to get into WoD atmosphere better.

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>>5013815
VtMB's themes and tones are particularly relevant to much of anything going on in HtV though.

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>>5013887
It has a ton of weird WoD shit like ghosts or curses.

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>>5013384
I don't mean leveling up skills per se, I mean 1/2ths and 1/5ths i.e. why change three numbers while you can just change one and do division in memory.
And luck spending is fun, I even imported it to my WFRP game and players love it. Luck tests also fill important niche.

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Need this image but with the HoloEn Girls.

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>>5016577
>Thai Cuisine

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>>4957867
I haven't been keeping up with anything past the first character creation stream.
Are people making Watoto an actual goblin?
Do they not get it was a figure-of-speech type of descriptor?

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>>5017602
Yes. People are retarded.

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>>5011116
You don't think Slashers make for a good main book antagonist? They're like the most unique threat Hunters get. Most other stuff is just Hunter versions of other splats, and Slashers are pretty universal as a thread for the three Tiers *and* Hunters can become them. They're super versatile and play towards HtV's themes better than anything else does. Horrors are still in the book in case that's what you were thinking. They get 60 pages on them, with a good chunk of examples for different regions and environments. So there is more space dedicated to them(technically it's the same as there are 10 pages of Dread Powers which Slashers also use), but it's The Slasher Chronicles not The Horror Chronicles.

VASCU isn't actually FBI anymore though. FBI VASCU is fun but sort of fundamentally retarded in a way that doesn't really make sense as an entity. Instead their now an FBI offshoot, which introduces some fun rivalry, which feels a lot more sensible to me. They're still totally bound by laws and all that fun stuff, so they don't feel much different they just make more sense. As for the "psychic magic stuff" the Wintergreen Process is basically just Project MKUltra but, y'know, actually does stuff besides torture. It's all pretty much science though, drugs and therapy to unlock the great potential of the human mind and all. At least for 2e half of the Teleinformatic Endowments are pretty mundane in use. You've got a couple of obviously preternatural things but you've got mind palace-esque stuff, super detective tricks, and the like. It's physic power by way of science than the occult.

I've no real idea what you meant with that last line though. One of what, exactly?

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>>5016577
Starting from the bottom right:
Mori, Ina, Kiara, Gura, Amelia

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This is the only content keeping me watching vtubers desu

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>>5017924
One slasher. I wanna see a slasher in the campaign. And, seeing less overt magic worked into endowments is really cool.
For me, Slashers are an excellent antagonist that shows up once, or a few times in a very long campaign. I will say, I never got to run WoD or CofD (yet) but this campaign is getting me to do the leg work and statting out the monsters, baddies and NPC's. I do agree they're by far one of the most unique antagonists in the games lines, period. Even better than the True Fae. The new hunter book is gonna be sick, all I'm saying.

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>>5013587
I was thinking of character sheet with art of the character.

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>>4993618
Combat is literally a fail state in games like this. Succeeding without or with minimal combat is ideal.

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>>5017602
Artist seem to ignore the fact that she didn't mean being a goblin in the literal sense

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>>5017602
It's a combination of ESL and people not understanding the setting. It's to be expected -- for most people their only exposure to World of Darkness is Sseth's Bloodlines review.

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>>5029050
You're really overestimating how much reach that kind of stuff has to the average person.

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>>4999639
Did you forget Ina is a scientist?

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>>5029050
You're overestimating their viewerbase especially it's japanese side that produces a big chunk of fanart if you think they even know what Bloodlines is, not to mention WoD itself. They rely on translations and the first thing that got translated were almost definitely sheets including "goblin-like" on Ame's sheet while there was no mention of race anywhere.

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>>5029050
Anon, when most people think of a tabletop game, they picture D&D. That is where a bunch of the non-fitting character art comes from.

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So, what are the theories behind the telephone signal on Kiara's apartment being shitty?
Is she being tapped by glowies?

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>>4993131
That's not how statistics works brainlet. There are diminishing returns on the number of dice since only one success is needed to hit.

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It's like I never left /tg/

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Bruh give it to me straight, how many years is this campaign going to take?

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>>5036842
I'd ballpark about 10-20 sessions tops. That's half a year to a year at a cadence of every other week (and you know we'll be lucky if they stick to that).

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>>5036842
First one is planned to be 5 2-3 hour long biweekly streams not counting tutorial sessions so it should end in august/september. They might do a longer campaign afterwards if they get into it.

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>>5027851
That's midwit nonsense.

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>>5037161
>5 2-3 hour long biweekly streams
What? They're just going to fly into egypt as soon as they join the Hunter secret club?

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>>4993639
That's really helpful anon but its not what the bickering fools actually care about

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>>5037473
Noone says they will fly to Egypt outright. If my RPG instincts are right, that sounded like plothook for second campaing. The first one should be focused on "what the fuck vampires need that medalion for".
We should know more when session with Ina will be.

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>>5037161
No way they will be only 2-3 hours long.

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>>5037473
Of course not. The bar Tiara went to will likely be the central hub of the campaign with the NPC that gave the invitation probably being the one to direct the group. Egypt might appear in the second campaign, also giving an easy way to add or drop people depending on who wants to play again or join in.

>>5039118
It's very hard for a full group spread across 3 major timezones to spend more time on a collab. Kiara's tutorial pushed to 4 hours considering the large initial delay so maybe they'll also do 4 hours every time or maybe they'll add another stream to the campaign.

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>>5033153
Nah, she's just poor. Lol.

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>>5041112
2h for a session is pathetic. They wouldn't finish it in a year. 4h is the bare minimum.

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>>4963366
Sussus Amoo

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Don't die on me, thread

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How specific do guns get? If Calli had Tiara shop for weapons, what would some of her options be? And where can I read about these?

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>>5046552
Next week can't come soon enough. Fucking hell, time is slow when you really need it to be fast.

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>>5013815
Maybe some of them will play VTMB if they get into it.

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Man, mythbreakers surely is not the greatest choice of a tag out there.

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>>5046948
It was empty when it started, I think. It's literally just getting hijacked by ads and it fucking sucks

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>>5046644
Not that specific because you can't really do much beyond one or two more dice of damage. But there are also different ammunition types.

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>>5046644
There's World of Darkness: Armory that goes more in detail statting specific guns, but I don't expect Calli to care about that level of detail.
From the core book weapons a Shotgun would be my best suggestion, not only is has the best damage value but it also has the "9-again" property, where rolling a 9 on a dice let's you roll again just like when you roll a 10.

Fire would be a good thing to use, if vampires will be a recurring issue (fire is always good in Hunter IMO), but aside from molotovs/fire and spray I'm not sure if they will be able to get their hands on a flame thrower.

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>>5047087
Either they move or we, and I won't give quarter to Poos babbling about kung flu.
>>5046796
Welcome to weekly rpg expirance, enjoy your state, eternal theme is suffering.

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If rest of the campaign will be as good as Kiara stream this will be their best content every week. I only hope Ame and Gura get into it.

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>>5049764
Full auto weapons are better than normal shotguns. Sure 9 again is nice but long burst is +3 dice. Also in Hunter large rifles get 9 again too.

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>>5051031
But can you load your rifle with salt slugs to fire against ghosts? Didn't think so!

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>>5051797
Yeah, but Supernatural cosplay is really it's best function. Outside of that it's shitty, but cheap, less-lethal rounds. So it's good for mortals and intimidation. Spirits *might* have a vulnerability or repulsion ban for salt but it's not guaranteed as everything is pretty unique in that regard.