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Add Natsumi Moe to the list of people who are stopping their activities, as said on her YouTube stream today - https://youtu.be/4H23aKkSh9M?t=3667
Her final stream will be this Sunday at 12pm CT on https://www.twitch.tv/natsumi_moe with a final video on https://www.youtube.com/ravenmanor on Tuesday
Even if a lot of people stopped watching over the years, she was still a pillar of the EN vtubing community for all those years, it's sad when another long time streamer calls it quits.
Also she said why she stopped using the old channel and told people to archive videos to avoid the channel getting hacked like the other Eilene channels did - https://youtu.be/4H23aKkSh9M?t=6529

>> No.50269897

who

>> No.50269982
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50269982

>>50269897
https://www.youtube.com/otakumoe
https://twitter.com/vtuber_moe

>> No.50269987

EN3

>> No.50270031

>>50269460
she was still active?

>> No.50270127

>>50270031
Up until the end of last year she was still streaming fairly regularly on Twitch. Then she did occasional streams but tomorrow is the last one.
>>50269987
She would have been in EN1 if she wanted it, or any other company for that matter. I don't think it's a corpo grab given the Eilene issues she had. She's pretty much done as a streamer.

>> No.50270511

>>50269460
She was the one who made the ebola-chan video right? I think she may have been the first vtuber video I ever saw.

>> No.50270556

>>50269987
The timing is suspicious. She could've quit any time but, NOW? Really? Of all times?

>> No.50270585

>>50270511
That was Eilene originally but they rebranded their channel for Moe's content.
>>50270556
EN3 only opened auditions so it's not because of a corpo.

>> No.50270609

>>50270511
No, pretty sure that Moemi was just the translator but the videos were on her channel.

>> No.50270760

>>50270585
>EN3 only opened auditions so it's not because of a corpo.
idiot, the auditions were always open

>> No.50270862

>>50269987
Don't know much about this chuuba, any chance that she is going to save HoloEN is she joins?

>> No.50271151

>>50270585
>EN3 only opened auditions
Thanks, actually clueless anon.

>> No.50271211

>>50271151
it's fine, anyone would have thought they had them open a long time ago but nope

>> No.50271318

>>50270556
she said that she would be stopping months ago

>> No.50271321

>>50271211
Anon... Your comprehension reps...

>> No.50271389

>>50271318
https://streamable.com/ofyjvj
This was in December.

>> No.50273211

F

>> No.50273593

>>50269897
My wife

>> No.50273611

EN3

>> No.50273914

>>50270127
>on Twitch
Who cares then

>> No.50274001

HOLY SHIT
EILENE WINNING HARDD
HOW CAN EVERYBODY COMPETE

>> No.50275254

>>50269460
I'm sorry to anyone that has her as their oshi and is now losing her. You have my condolences. I know what that feels like.

>> No.50276384

>>50274001
Who's even left for Eilene to ruin? Also Moe explained why the Moemi / Yomemi account never got recovered when it got hacked....they really fucked everyone up here.

>> No.50278756

Friends don't let friends work with Eilene.
Fucker ruins everything.

>> No.50279030

>>50269460
She was the first EN Vtuber I can remember from before I found out about vtuber groups like Hololive and Nijisanji. She was a unique addition to the scene back then. Times have changed and I guess it's time for her to move on, kudos to her.

>> No.50279204

wave 8

>> No.50279321

>>50270127
>She's pretty much done as a streamer.
people said the same thing about pikamee.

>> No.50279434

>>50279321
Difference is pikamee wasn't a 2 view

>> No.50279826

>>50279434
yeah she was just a liar

>> No.50280888

>>50275254
At least she's not going to sell out to vshojo because she's not much of a fan of them.

>> No.50280964

>>50278756
sadly they will pop up again and ruin more people, it always happens

>> No.50281138

>>50269460
Surprised she never got cancelled after
>If you see a nigger, pull the trigger
Granted, it was years ago and it seems she did regret it but still surprising nobody dug it up.

>> No.50281316

>>50279826
>told no lies, even went out of her way to make it incredibly obvious to anyone with higher than 25 IQ that she was coming back
>She's a liar for not breaking her NDA!
The mind of a schizo really is mysterious

>> No.50284359

>>50269460
This makes me very sad. She was the last livestreamer og I tried to regularly keep up with despite being busy with work and life.

>> No.50285725

>>50269897
How fucking new?

>> No.50286252
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50286252

>>50270127
who the fuck is eilene

>> No.50288092

>>50269987
more like vshojo...

>> No.50289077

>>50286252
Don't worry about it, you already missed the ride

>> No.50289402

>>50269460
Man, so many painful losses in 2023. At least she kept being herself until the very end.

>> No.50289514

>>50279826
>schizo twitter faggots project their theory of "Pikamee is quitting vtubing permanently" onto her even when this is never confirmed and even when she makes it obvious she's coming back
>SHE LIED BECAUSE SHE CONTRADICTED THE UNFOUNDED BELIEF I HAD
Kill yourself. Unironically kill yourself.

>> No.50289587

>>50289514
>SHE LIED BECAUSE SHE CONTRADICTED THE UNFOUNDED BELIEF I HAD
/#/ and the catalog in a nutshell. People falling for their own delusions is going to end up with a vtuber seriously injured some day.

>> No.50289696

>>50269460
I thought she already graduated some time ago, the blue OG girl

>> No.50289742

>>50269897
The reason /pol/ watches vtubers
These videos got popular long before anybody gave a shit about kizuna ai
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fn8I1JIYIrM

>> No.50291200

>>50289402
I dunno if there's going to be anyone that hits worse yet. Losing Pikamee angered a lot of people but we all knew what happened next.
>>50289696
No she just got a new YouTube channel.

>> No.50295499

seems like super 3D claimed another one

>> No.50295878

>>50270127
>She would have been in EN1 if she wanted it
She was still under Eilene even during Council's auditions, so no, EN3 is the first gen she could've joined

>> No.50298634

>>50270609
Pretty sure Moemi was not involved in any way back then and it wasn't her channel.

>> No.50302317

>>50270609
If you mean Moe, she wasn't there at that time. Also her translators are different people and ended up being volunteers and not being paid than what people assumed them to be the case.
Some of these translators actually did the JP subs for a Hololive video, I forget which though.

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50302494

This is her description on the otakumoe channel now. Not sure if she'll change it again.

>> No.50302952

>>50276384
qrd? why was it?

>> No.50303715

>>50302952
The channels all got sold and when someone approached somebody about the hacking and how to get the channel recovered nothing was done.

>> No.50304118

>>50302494
hope she's actually happy and not planning on an heroing

>> No.50304897

>>50269460
Her rebrand her hurt her the most. Sad to see her go but it was also entirely expected.

>> No.50305331

Honestly, Eilene and now Moe might be dead but at least Etra and Moemi are still going strong.

>> No.50305905

>>50303715
The fuck happened to eilene...
Last drama I happened to encounter about her whole circle was the Digitrev one
but honestly since then I just followed moemi and etra personal channels.
>>50305331
Maybe you guys know if there is a reupload of etra's OG song anywhere?
Those were in eilene's channel and well...that happened.

>> No.50308475

>>50305331
moe said on the stream etra got picked up so she seems safe and away from any eilene nonsense

>> No.50308685
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50308685

>>50304897
The new model wasn't even bad. It was designed to her liking. A bigger reason would probably be doing so many streams on bilibili rather than twitch. She was part of a stream group with other OG EN vtubers like Yuikai and Harune and it didn't seem to last long. Harune graduated earlier this year and I forget what happened to the rest other than Yuikai posting gravure cosplay on twitter these days.

>> No.50308843

>>50308685
Hate to say it but that model is plainly soulless. It's a good quality but that's about it.

>> No.50308956

>>50281316
>>50289514
you are rewriting history retards. There were zero people with full confidence that shes coming back and those that considered it tbough that it would be after months. I guess she can do no wrong in your twisted minds

>> No.50309116

>>50308685
I always confused Harune and Moe, sad to see both of them go this 2023. This year has been an absolute massacre for a lot of OG chuubas

>> No.50309331

To be fair, she first said eternal sleep and then followed it up with indefinite.

>> No.50309376

>>50309116
Harune had a proper graduation a few months ago, the VOD is still alive.
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1771230317

>> No.50309424

>>50269460
HOLO EN 3! EN 3!

>> No.50309563

>>50270862
It's possible, she tended to shy away from whore activities in favor of kino streams.

>> No.50309623

>>50309563
>>50270862
you say that but she collabs with males so if you don't want that you're in for a bad time

>> No.50309822

>>50309623
>clearly states he watched her
><unitroon script>
If any OG joins a corpo, they are not gonna suddenly start with your schizo idea of an idol.

>> No.50310388

anyone have an updated list of eilene crimes

>> No.50310827

>>50310388
I wish I saved it.

>> No.50310886

I remember seeing her first video, or maybe it was her second. The line "My biggest fear? Losing my friends." was the fakest shit I'd ever heard so that was it for me. Well, I at least admire that she kept up activities for so long.

>> No.50310944

>>50269460
YOU DOCTOR YET?
no da I'm 3 years old
YOU TALK TO ME WHEN YOU DOCTOR

>> No.50310984

>>50309822
>schizo idea
These ideas existed before you were even aware of anime beyond memes you saw posted on twitter, faggot retard.

>> No.50311257

>>50310944
many such cases
just let them be whores you filthy chinks.

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>>50310984
sure newfag.

>> No.50311554

>>50311320
/jp/ was around before you were ever aware the internet existed, Sora explicitly debuted as an idol, your tranny dream of all the hologirls sucking cocks will never occur because in a business the business goes where the money is and you are a broke faggot. This is neverminding the fact there are a million vtubers who aren't 'idols' that you can go watch, but you stay here because you heard about 'the hololive' on twitter and have a perverse obsession with fucking it up instead of watching vtubers you feel cater to your desires. Now fuck off to whatever other hobbies you pretend to have a tangential interest in purely for the sake of ruining them, you miserable dweeb.

>> No.50311617

>>50311554
something something Sora did male collabs something something you're unwell and I hope you get better

>> No.50311695

>>50311554
>mucho texto to deflect
Why are you crying already?
Your dilation is not working?

>> No.50311865

>>50269460
>perpetual 2 view
Are you implying she joined Holo or that she quit?

>> No.50311898

>>50311865
quitting for good is way more likely than her joining a company

>> No.50313161

NOOO

>> No.50313415
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50313415

https://twitter.com/bannedvtmemes/status/1662738167177555968
bvtm picks up the thread

>> No.50313627

is Siro the only one left?

>> No.50313687

>>50313627
In terms of an EN context, who would be left at this point?

>> No.50313832

She had a pretty good run
>>50313415
>bvtm picks up the thread
bvtm should pick up a gun and kill themselves
>>50313687
Unironically, Ironmouse

>> No.50314028

>>50271151
Hololive EN auditions were always open, people mistook a reminder that they are and some hints at EN3 as auditions opening.

>> No.50315699

damn

>> No.50315956

>>50269460
I didn't know she was active at all. I used to be a fan of Moemi and Yomemi. This hacking issue is news to me as well, I can't believe it's been so many years. I wonder why it never occurred to me I hadn't seen Eilene or Moemi stuff lately.

>> No.50316065

>>50315956
kinda sucks that all that old content from the channel is gone because of the hack. hope someone out there archived it so it might pop up somewhere in the future but probably long odds

>> No.50316790
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50316790

>>50286252
a pioneer

>> No.50316977

>>50311554
stop shitposting about Sora you fuck, she's collabed with males since 2018 and it doesn't make her any less of an idol

>> No.50317082

>>50313627
>>50313687
ironmouse

>> No.50318594

>>50271389
big enough that it felt like a responsibility, small enough that she wasn't getting enough out of it. rough

>> No.50318793

I am still waiting for those deleted Eilene videos to come out. Anytime now

>> No.50321388

Who are the other big entubers from her era? Only ever really paid attention to the jp side so while I knew about her and the rest of the eilene family I don't really know much about the entubers from that time.

>> No.50321751

Another dumb whore who should have joined an agency but became a literal who roastie.

>> No.50321867

>>50269460
She went all in for EN3 confirmed

>> No.50322516

>>50311554
You ok dude?lmao

>> No.50322784

>>50321388
Pretty much none. There was Ami Yamato (who started in 2011 and predates the whole "vtuber" thing) and Asobi Rin (not nearly as big), but that's about it. She was one of the top 20-30 chuubas in back 2018-2019 when most Holos other than Sora were literal whos

>> No.50323043

>>50322784
So why does the op say "Another OG en vtuber"? I guess what I was asking is who are these og envtubers that have been calling it quits lately?

>> No.50323221

>>50269460
what a shame, but i cant say i wasnt expecting it, she pretty much self-sabotaged her own career with some decisions clearly made because of depression, i still think she can make it if she joins to any corpo but it looks like she is just done with the vtuber life, i hope the best for her.

>> No.50324396

>>50269460
She streamed more on Bilibili than Twitch/YouTube in the end. She deserves more respect for being an EN pioneer, but her graduation is long overdue.

>> No.50325420

>>50269460
oh that's why pichu has been actively appearing in my sub feed with lilies lately
will the diary full of malice also be revived

>> No.50325603

>>50269460
Can you call yourself a pillar if the community ends up being nothing but garbage with you still around?

>> No.50326307

>>50325603
you dont know much about politics right?

>> No.50327588

>>50325420
Her current account had her malice model be used in some videos.

>> No.50328141

>>50325420
>will the diary full of malice also be revived
doubtful, she is used on the current channel sometimes

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>>50323043
probably in the context that Harune, another 2018 vtuber, graduated earlier this year

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>>50325603
She pretty much disconnected from a large chunk of it (maybe cutting off way more than what was good for her) and only streamed with close friends. Don't blame Moe for what vtubing ended up becoming. She didn't want the coomer shit and distanced herself from Comdost who was into that.

>> No.50331401

>>50330730
She's typical western woman exposing her coworkers on twitter for """"""""abuse""""""". Good riddance.

>> No.50331561

Ebola chan doko? Eileen doko?

>> No.50332061

>>50331561
Eilene is gone too. Didn't even bother to save the Moemi channel. Fucking idiot.

>> No.50332230

Coomdost:
>you should do erotic ASMR
Moe:
>no
Should've been the end of that.
Instead she threw a pity party on twitter, used the words ABUSE and HARASSSMENT. Said she cried every time she hit the go live button. Said everyone in her corporation abused her.
Didn't present ANY evidence AT ALL.
Didn't contact a lawyer or took legal action.
Even to this day people are still spreading narratives about Eilene and Coomdost being horrible abusers.

>> No.50332238

>>50332061
Because they sold all the channels apparently to people who don't care if they get hacked.

>> No.50332334

>>50332230
https://www.twitch.tv/comdost at least still streams on twitch, still using TTS though

>> No.50332585

>>50332334
I understand his rationale since her erotic ASMR were her most successful videos on her channel with over a million views. He suggested the western woman should do more of the same and she said "no" so what was the abuse here?
In fact her ASMR are still up with almost 5 million views
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfi5wF9XVZk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HydcbU9zR7E

>> No.50332591

>>50332230
>>50332334
Commy is great

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>>50269460
https://www.twitch.tv/natsumi_moe
https://www.twitch.tv/natsumi_moe
https://www.twitch.tv/natsumi_moe
https://www.twitch.tv/natsumi_moe
it begins

>> No.50332828

She's in /EN3/

>> No.50332844

>>50332230
once a retarded simp always a retarded simp.

>> No.50332951

>>50331401
fucking this

>> No.50333086

>>50330730
kill yourself trannydost enabler

>> No.50333576

>>50269982
I unironically have no idea who this is but I heard the name a few times and thought it was some random niji.

>> No.50333757 [DELETED] 

>>50332061
I miss edgy contents, I watch her doraemon back in the days

>> No.50333882

>>50332230
Having known Coomdost in the distant past, I sincerely doubt he has or has had the balls to take advantage of someone like that. It's the reason I never watched Moe again and don't grieve for her loss.

The real OG EN chuuba is Mira Pink, who predated her by a few months. Sadly, it was her BF who helped her set things up and she squandered her head start by posting horny shit.

>> No.50333887

>>50332061
Good Riddance, but it was fun when he was /here/ in 2014.

>> No.50334126

According to her layout, she's going into slumber, huh?
Sounds like every Vtuber who got accepted into a company.
If that fails
>I WOKE UP FROM MY SLUMBER

Doesn't Idol have new talents soon?

>> No.50334159

>>50333882
money can twist and corrupt people

>> No.50334297

>>50334159
I doubt Moe had an NDA that prevented her from sharing proof of what she did, Eilene wasn't a very smart person.

>> No.50334539

>>50334126
Given how much she got burned by eilene she wouldn't even consider the likes of jewbas or phase either.

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>>50333882
The real OG is Annoying Orange.

>> No.50337267

>>50334126
She is a male collaber, so I hope not

>> No.50337285

>>50334297
Eilene sure screwed a lot of people though. I'm sure they're still finding a way to resurface and bring more chuubas to the sphere.

>> No.50337674

>>50336726
This joke will never be funny.

>> No.50338011

>>50336726
peared

>> No.50338072

>>50334297
Rule of fear, they all did not come out out of pity for the people involved. Maybe someday someone will come out to clear the air about what happened in full

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>manlybadasshero popped up on stream

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50341365

guess she is wrapping up now

>> No.50341634

And just like that, she will only be remembered by nostalgia-goggled schizos

>> No.50342121

>>50341634
because everyone only cares about corpos and coomers these days

>> No.50342193

>>50342121
she got any attention in the first place for being a corpo

>> No.50342210

>>50286252
The first vtuber

>> No.50342223

>>50338625
Oh?

>> No.50342243

>>50338625
holy shit

>> No.50342268

>>50342223
she looked up to him for lets plays and stuff

>> No.50342429

>>50269460
Say it with me

YEAR
OF
GRADUATIONS
AND
YABS!!

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okay now she's finishing up on stream

>> No.50342548

this is all so tiring

>> No.50342597

>>50342548
I know, the graduations just keep on coming and coming. And that's why Moe said on stream she didn't want to make a huge fuss about it, even the guests she invited weren't aware of the full context of being invited to stream.

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and it is all over.......

>> No.50343176

>>50289742
>These videos got popular long before anybody gave a shit about kizuna ai
>"long before"
>video from 2015 back when sjwshit was on the rise
>kizuna came out in 2016

>>50316790
PNG shit didn't pioneer anything, you might as well say Nyanners pioneered vtubing if you're gonna stretch having an OCsona that hard.

>> No.50343424

Everyone this year is gonna have a graduation that hits them hard the most. Maybe they already had one. So many are dropping off like flies. Is it really the end of vtubing as we know it?

>> No.50343690

>>50343424
The end of the leeches who only got attention because it was novel. Anyone who is still passionate and talented will do well.

>> No.50343809

>>50343424
COVID streaming buff has ended; a lot of people are going to have to look at their current success and decide if thats something they're willing to devote more of their life to

>> No.50344024

>>50269897
My first thought as well.
>Even if a lot of people stopped watching over the years, she was still a pillar of the EN vtubing community for all those years
I never heard of her. I don't think she's a pillar of anything.

>> No.50344110

>>50288092
But she can just keep her current character if it was for Vshojo.

>> No.50344184

>>50344110
she doesn't like vshojo, she did one minecraft collab with them years ago and didn't do anything after that - vshojo's values (the coom baiting and all that) didn't vibe with her

>> No.50344374

>>50344024
>I never heard of her. I don't think she's a pillar of anything.
She didn't like to network or collab with other vtubers and just stuck to her male friends so no wonder.

>> No.50344539

>>50344184
Haruka is not really lewd and she is still in?
Moe mentioned being one of those "all of my friends are boys since they are less drama" kinda girls, can't stand having relations with most other females so maybe that's why.

>> No.50344657

>>50311554
The Sora that appears in this video? https://youtu.be/ahntN7r1GIc?t=2419

>> No.50344831

>>50342429
Anon, if you think this year has too many graduations better not see what's coming in 2025

>> No.50345052

>>50344539
Haruka only joined last year after orbiting them forever and even then they got a more sexual outfit reveal as part of joining.

>> No.50345101

>>50344657
wow he has the voice of an angel.

>> No.50348206

>>50344831
When Gura quits it is all over.

>> No.50349212

>>50343424
Vtubing has changed since when she started. The content people expect, the fans, the method of networking, and most of all vtuber themselves change over time.
At some point it's healthy to let go if your heart isn't in it anymore. Much better than being corrupted to become something you don't like.
It's sad to see the old faces disappear though.

>> No.50353650

>>50269460
who

>> No.50357585

>>50313687
I think MiraPink is still around.

>> No.50358646

>>50269460
Damn

>> No.50358860

>>50348206
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
that girl has already basically quit, she's not as special as you guys hype her up to be

>> No.50359320

Sad to see her go and I wish her all the best.

>> No.50362963

Bump

>> No.50366007

>>50311554
Actual idols interact with men constantly.
You’re a loser projecting your one-way infatuation with an egirl onto another industry.

>> No.50368405

>>50366007
Yes, their old men managers.

>> No.50368924

>>50331561
dust in the wind

>> No.50370106

>>50269460
So now what
Does Eilene at least acknowledge it or does she just let it go like the Yomemi/Moemi channels

>> No.50370297

>>50370106
Moe divorced Eilene ages ago, anon.

>> No.50373562

>>50269460
We will see her again

>> No.50374958

>>50373562
god i hope

>> No.50376793

>>50373562
that would be nice

>> No.50378582

>>50359320
same

>> No.50378743

>>50269460
Is there any summary about what happened to Eilene and co?

>> No.50379558

>>50342548
all good things come to an end

>> No.50379801

I used to watch hers 360 asmrs... they were really nice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zd33yxjGKcg

>> No.50381848

>>50379801
i remember back when 360 vids would crash my browser

>> No.50383398

a little longer

>> No.50386151

>>50343809
that and just simple time passing

>> No.50388222

>>50269987
good luck

>> No.50390604

>>50379801
same

>> No.50392900
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50392900

https://twitter.com/comdost_art/status/1663046401607991297/photo/1
Their tweet references the old Moe Train mentioned in videos. Not much but she said something.

>> No.50392991

>>50373562
Only if it's a better company with actual managers. As long as it's not nijisanji (they'd break her), vshojo (lmao she doesn't like them anyway) or a small irrelevant 2view company all will be good. Or if she can stick to being an indie but this time get promoted a hell of a lot better.

>> No.50395969

>>50269987
would be happy for her, but it definitely seemed like she was just done with vtubing

>> No.50396727

>>50343176
>PNG shit
she used live2d for her skits, and that was back when the tech was relatively new
you fucking killjoy
goddamn party pooper
kill yourself

>> No.50400700

>>50348206
nah

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>>50396727
Even on stream yesterday Moe talked about all the stream apps that used to get used when Deat was on (who was involved with VSeeFace) - there used to be facerig and luppet too before everyone moved to VTubeStudio

The VOD by the way of Moe's stream - https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1831625393

>> No.50404473

>>50269460
f

>> No.50407523

Moe...

>> No.50411219

>>50308956
When it comes to denying reality and pushing a made up narrative they/them are simply the best.
The truth is that Pikamee never said she'd come back and most people believed she was leaving for good that's why everyone wss so sad.
Some did propose she might come back as HoloEN3, Vshoujo and even PC but it was all seen as hopium by everyone else.
The one thing she did clarify is that she had planned to quit before her controversy and a lot of people did believe this and others chose to be skeptical of it.

>> No.50411605

>>50411219
Even then it's dumb of pikamee to join the same company as Froot who cheer leaded the hogwarts harassment. And the harassment still affected her as apparently she doesn't look at her new twitter and someone at vshitshow does the back and forward with her for all that.

>> No.50414597

original

>> No.50415157
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50415157

Eilene sex.
Thats all.

>> No.50419097

>>50415157
understandable

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