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How come /vt/ is much more forgiving towards Haachama but not Gura?

>> No.50775871

>>50775719
Because unlike Gura there's an actual chance Haachama is just straight-up dead.

>> No.50775905

Because Haato is probably dead.

>> No.50775967

>>50775719
Because westerners bad or something

>> No.50775973

Because Haachama is also a college student and a schizo who tries her best when she does stream. What's the shart's excuse?

>> No.50776078

>>50775973
She's depressed

>> No.50776134

>>50775973
Tummy hort

>> No.50776296

Gura has no problem doing collabs, she's just been skipping out on anything where she might have to interact with her fans. Meanwhile Haachama is just dead.

>> No.50776395

Haachama let everyone know she is on hiatus and it has only been a few months.
Gura has been slacking for over a year now and keeps promising things only to not deliver.

>> No.50776565

>>50775719
Haachama streamed for years. Sure she did have breaks because she was/is literally a student, but she streamed a lot. Gura streamed for the first years or so, and then fell off the face of the earth.
People go after Aqua for the same reason and I say that Aqua already streamed a ton and helped build up hololive to what it is today. Gura just jumped on the bandwagon, streamed for a year and tapped out.

>> No.50776566

>>50775719
One is pregnant, the other is dead.

>> No.50776606

>>50776296
hope so, haafucks were not different from the beggars back then.

>> No.50776810

>>50775719
Because everyone knows Gura so she's easier to bait. Any other answer is false.

>> No.50776846

>>50775719
because haachama is Japanese and because Haatons don't bully people

>> No.50776934

>>50776296
Not to mention that haachama is younger, she's still figuring out her life; Gura is a grown ass woman, she should know to at least communicate with her fans.

>> No.50777044
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50777044

>>50775719
One is in college

the other one should ACTUALLY do something at least once or twice a week.

But this also lies in how bad chumbuds are, compared to Haatons. I wish that chumbuds continue to be terrible fans, because I will not forgive them for their bullshit in 2020

>> No.50777203

>>50775719
I am pretty sure most forgot haachama existed

>> No.50777282

>>50775719
Chama goes to school.

>> No.50777379

>>50775719
Haachama goes to university while Gura... goes outside?

>> No.50777455

>>50776566
Pregnancy, hmm that’s a new one for me.

So Gura suffers from pregnancy, depression, wealth-induced apathy, illness, having a day job, alcoholism aaaand boredom. What did I miss?

>> No.50777552

>>50777044
holojp deserves everything bad coming to them.

>> No.50777628

>>50777455
you forgot about getting pako'd daily

>> No.50777739
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50777739

Because the reasons given for shork being MIA aren't believable, and in truth, never were. People were only willing to play along initially because of various reasons.
We know that streamers and general entertainers lie to their audiences, its technically even their job, but it becomes a problem when it's so obvious.

>> No.50778020

>>50777552
HoloJP works hard. HoloEN has retarded tumblrtier shippers, and people who whine and cry 24/7 when they get told to fuck off as seen by Ame.

>> No.50778135

>>50775719
Hachama may either be dead or pregnant

>> No.50778274

>>50778020
your jp oshis will suffer.

>> No.50778303

>>50775719
Haachama has the excuse that she's in school. She could take a year off and just point the finger to that. Gura's half assed excuses of tummy hort and PC died don't fly when she takes 2 months off.

>> No.50778355

>>50778303
It shouldn't fly at all, but it doesn't excuse shitty behavior by chumbuds

>> No.50778549

>>50777455
You're the new one. Everyone knows she's pregnant with my child.

>> No.50778566

>>50775719
/vt/ will always seethe about Gura's success, everyone knows this.

>> No.50778620

>>50776606
Difference is Haato's not a fucking faggot

>> No.50778679
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50778679

>>50777044
>I will not forgive them for their bullshit in 2020
They say revenge is a dish best served cold. I still haven't forgiven them for what they did to my friend the first days she got harassed by the chinks.

>> No.50778766

>>50775719
/vt/ is full of actual seething roasties that hate Gura for being a successful western eceleb without having to be a cam whore thot like them. They can easily write off Japanese women cause "they all look like little girls irl etc.. etc... men pedos etc..etc.."

>> No.50778779

>>50775719
One goes to school (Evidently failing her classes but she's trying her hardest) and the other is "I stream when I want to"

>> No.50779377

>>50778679
I remember when they spammed Korone and Fubuki's chats over the 1M bullshit.

>> No.50779417
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50779417

>One worked hard on being entertaining, fun, hilarious, and outlandish - Going so far as to write her own lore sequences and even endured China before finally needing to answer College and RL
>The other got bored after 1 singular instance of management chiding her in front of the new recruits
Unironically sell off the worst parts of EN to nijitrash or vshitshow, and migrate Kiara, Irys, Mori and Fauna to some sort of hybrid JP/unlabeled division of Hololive and be done with the tumor of a section

>> No.50779520

>>50779417
They can retire Kiara and Mori as well.

>> No.50779735

>>50779520
At that point EN as a branch would be as dead as a doornail.

>> No.50780224

>>50775719
haachama is out on hiatus until further notice and thats it, gura on the other hand is she on hiatus? is she not? the lack of clarity is the issue

>> No.50780749

>>50775973
She's pregnant

>> No.50781301

>>50775719
I like Haachama, I used to like Gura.

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50781433

>>50775719
>bottom image
there's a bunch of mentally ill faggots who are seething at gura too much
and retarded chumkeks are ironically concern trolling with the antis

>> No.50781603

>>50775719
JP bootlickers, JP good EN bad

>> No.50781797

>>50781433
>seething at gura
she would need to do something....anything, to warrant a response

>> No.50782267

>>50775719
Haachama is in university and obviously depressed ever since coming back to Japan, she tried to continue vtubing anyway, until finally can't take it anymore and went hiatus.
Gura??? Gura is not in school, medical condition? but medical condition not serious enough for hiatus? ???? behind the scene works don't prevent you from streaming the minimum of 1 hour per week, that is the most generous demand but she still can't do it. With no real explanation either we can only assume she is lazy or is focusing on something else.

>> No.50783068

>>50777739
>Because the reasons given for shork being MIA aren't believable, and in truth, never were.
They were, you're just schizo.

>> No.50783143

>>50782267
cope harder dogfucker, she coudn't spare time to show up at the important 3D lives (Gura could), and the pressure of being the #1 is ten times harder to deal with than just "I'm a normal girl"

>> No.50784694

>>50778274
Your mom will die in a car crash.

>> No.50784863

>>50775719
Haachama before going on hiatus is actually pretty active on twitter, tells why she cant stream, and actually does the streams/things she committed to doing.
Meanwhile gura, has 0 communication in her end, idk how many times she had to announce on twitter her "comeback" stream then be gone in a few weeks again.
There's 0 communication with her to her fans, and I can't belive that people are actually defending her not giving an update on what's her next agenda is.
Even ayame/aqua/shion are doing better at communicating with their fans when they are gone.

One of the reasons why I moved on from being a big fan of her, I'll still watch her if she goes live don't get me wrong but I have 0 expectations.
And am not even gonna be surprised if she graduates this month.

>> No.50784894

>>50775719
>university student vs lazyass cunt
its easy to notice which one is the asshole there

>> No.50785743

>>50778020
>Aqua
>Ayame
>Shion
>La+
>works hard

>> No.50785786

>>50779417

They need to absolutely flood EN with new talents then start culling the shit ones. From Myth, I think basically Ina is the only keeper and that's only because she's a relatively safe bet streamer who streams 3 - 4 times a week average and doesn't create drama. Kiara, I think they just need to straight up move her to being a JP talent because she just is the absolute bottom of the barrel for the EN. The rest of Myth, toss em, they're washed up.

For Councilrys, again, keep the safe bet person who actually streams, Fauna. Irys, move her over to JP as well, she's essentially already a part time JPer. The rest of them, again, disposable nothings.

Then, put out at least two generations a year until they have at least 20 talents so there aren't so many dead days without anyone. Make sure the new people come in with contractual obligations too. At least 3 streams a week AND 15 hours worth of streams a week being the absolute minimum. 3 strikes and they're immediately fired as well. That's literally asking them to treat Hololive as a part time job. I'm well past tired of people acting like these are the busiest people that have ever existed on their 5 hours of streaming a week. The rest of us are out here working 40 hour jobs or going to school and working. We all also have to take care of our homes / responsibilities and yes even families for some of us. Streaming 15 hours a week and raking in 6 figures a year is a damn dream come true for the average person.

>> No.50786213

>>50775719
Haachama liked every single piece of fan art I drew of her for years. Gura hasn't liked a single one of my fanarts of her even though I had been drawing her for 3 years. Basically, Gura is a big meanie and Haachama is the world's greatest idol that deserves the best things in life.

>> No.50786532

>>50785743
t. newfag

>> No.50786792

>>50786532
>La+
>works hard

>> No.50787789

>>50775973
Gura's been content creating for over 10 years. Burnout is a legit possibility with her over a kid still in collage.

>>50776565
Only one year anon? That is some alternate reality juice there. Haachama is still technically Gura's sempai but she's been checked out since Coco and has been gone for over three mouths. Yet you are still going on about Haachama and streaming over someone who's actually been around at least one a week and has a concert coming up. And Funny you bring Aqua out of no where and give her credit but don't mention Coco role's while your at it or Gura being the gateway for so many new viewers in the west. Also nice goalpost moving to needing to "built Hololive" to matter--like you would know what that means.

I wish Haachama luck and hope Kson might save/help her from whatever is happening behind close doors but holy shit you Gura antis and your double standards. Now I'm not wasting anymore on a catalog bait thread so am out.

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>>50775719
ngl op you sound like a bitter western 2view woman there.

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50791821

>>50775719
Because Gura fail at one crucial thing: COMMUNICATION WITH THE FANBASE

Plenty of chuubas like haachama have crunchy academic struggle periods and it's normal for them to "disapear", the difference is these chuuba communicate with the fanbase and you can make your informed decision to suspend membership and what the hell not because you are told content distribution will be scarce for the time being until further notice.
Gura ghost the fuck out of you and it's extremely annoying.

>> No.50792713

>>50787789
Chammers has been creating content for more than hololive too, doxanon. You're also over valuing cocos role. It's been 2 years since coco left and haachamas rm has never collabed with her, unlike several other cover employees.

>> No.50793044

>>50780749
yeah with me

>> No.50793682

>>50792713
>You're also over valuing cocos role
Retard, you're over devaluing coco's influence on her.

>> No.50796312

>>50775719
Envy. They don't watch either, but so jealous of Gura. Like how trans always bully women.

>> No.50796452

>>50775719
We actually know what's going on with Haachama though. Manager had to tweet for her. Shark though? Probably blacked out on the couch and doesn't give a shit about us.

>> No.50796459

Actual Reason: Shitting on Haachama doesn't get (You)s. Shitting on Gura gets (You)s. Simple as.

>> No.50796592

>>50791821
If you know anything about holo management is that they have access and decide what the streamer can share on social media or not.

If gura has emotional issues, she cannot communicate them with people and even if she could management is probably blocking it since it would be bad PR for the company and the other girls.

Japanese vtubers cannot use the word "burn out" ever, it's against their work culture. After long enough of not being able to communicate with the audience you're supposed to entertain, I bet everyone would stop giving a shit eventually.

>> No.50796646

>>50775719
>How come /vt/ is much more forgiving towards Haachama but not Gura?
JP members see comments about Haachama and give updates about her if they cam, they mention if they are worried about her. EN members avoid guras name like a plague.

>> No.50796686

>>50796592
But you let people starting spreading rumors and shit on Gura because of her constant disapearing and ghosting, wow gg

>> No.50796911

>>50791821
Her content being scarce for over year and only getting more so over time should allow you make an "informed decision". If you need to be told at this point, it's your own problem.
>>50796592
Pretty baseless claim seeing management was fine announcing La+ taking a break due to mental health issues.

>> No.50797016

>>50796686
That's on management, the needs of the group come before the individual. They would rather let Gura just coast along rather than trying to change.

>>50796911
>Pretty baseless claim seeing management was fine announcing La+ taking a break due to mental health issues.
Lmao. That "break" was a suspension because la+ kept lying to their fans and screwing up. Not the same thing.

Despite all the silence, the majority of people still support Gura.

>> No.50797043

>>50796911
> If you need to be told at this point, it's your own problem
The problem with Gura here is she allowed her to get to this point.

>> No.50797072

>>50775973
She has multiple projects that she needs to take care of behind the scenes, bls undastand.

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50797131

>>50778274
EN whores will forever be worthless compared to the JP branch. Not even EN3 or EN4 would save your dying branch.

>> No.50797139

>>50796686
The thing is anon, unlike what /vt/ might make you think, these "rumors spreading people" are a minority, a loud one, but a minority. They know most of them will eventually move on to obsess with other chuubas

>> No.50797211

>>50797139
these people are not just on /vt/ but yeah, most chumbuds are lobotomized

>> No.50797217

>>50797131
JP > ID >>> Homostars > EN

>> No.50797250

>>50775719
Westerners are dumb and stupid hypocrites who deserve to be bashed

>> No.50797329

>>50797016
>That "break" was a suspension because la+ kept lying to their fans and screwing up.
Even if it was, it would be irrelevant to my point. Cover seems fine announcing a talent taking a mental health break, so anon's claim that they've locked Gura from communicating her "emotional issues" because of bad PR is baseless.

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>>50775719

>> No.50797725

>>50796592
Anon, plenty of holos have announced breaks and hiatus over mental health issues, stress or just plain burn out. The talents are the ones deciding how to communicate with their fans.

>> No.50797784

>>50775719
Gura is lazy while Haachama is actually busy with university. And no amount of chumbud cope with make her not lazy.

>> No.50797818

>>50783068
Lol, no. Literally all the holos have projects they work on behind the scenes...some of which take actual years to complete. If projects got in the way of streaming regularly, nobody would ever be regularly streaming.

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