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https://twitter.com/Holo_Data/status/1666049717170733057
5253 Shareholder meeting on June 29th 10AM JST, free livestream will be available.
Cover will open a QA session before the shareholder votes to determine BOD members/Corporation Articles

>> No.50863650

>>50863561
>uh oh money
Death to corporations

>> No.50863667

>>50863650
t. Poorfag

>> No.50863797

>>50863561
Hololive fans in these board! Its your time, quickly make holostars quit the company you only wnat girls right??

>> No.50863822

>>50863561
THEY WILL RELEASE EN3NNTNGJ BEFORE TO FLEX ON THE MEETING BELIB!!

>> No.50863853

>>50863561
Usually this stuff will be held behind closed door so it seem they wanted to be transparent to their about its direction. Kind of good of them I guess

>> No.50863932

>>50863797
>thinking anyone in this board is a businessman or an experienced stockholder from /biz/

>> No.50863936

>>50863561
Graduate all males HOLO and debut EN3 faster.

>> No.50863981
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50863981

Venue: TKP Garden City PREMIUM Shinagawa

>> No.50863988

>>50863561
Who will be your stockholder oshi, anon?

>> No.50863990

>>50863932
I think anon here have loud mouth.

>> No.50864040
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>>50863936
>>50863797
only people who bought shares before 31st march will be allowed to ask questions.

>> No.50864056

>>>/vt/numbers

>> No.50864138

>>50863561
All I know about business is to buy high and sell low. Some /biz/ anon wanna spoonfeed me what to expect and what it will mean to the future of hololive?

>> No.50864186

>>50864056
its not even about numbers retard people here hold shares also
>HOLOLIVE BOARD
>HOLOLIVE THREAD
seeth about it

>> No.50864275

>>50864138
>buy high and sell low
I'm going to have a stroke, you're not gonna make it as an investor

>> No.50864284

>>50864138
its basically a public meeting where they will announce how they plan to operate in the coming year, we might get more info about upcoming projects nothing much.

>> No.50864426
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>>50863932
>experienced stockholder from /biz/
>experienced stockholder
>from /biz/

>> No.50864652

>>50863561
someone better ask what the hell cover is doing with holostars, they're a complete waste of time for the company and investors are massive numberfags, i have a hard time thinking that investors love holostars

>> No.50864698

>>50864138
are you 12? how do you not know what a shareholder's meeting is?

>> No.50864763
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>>50863561
>m*les on my shareholder stream
its over.

>> No.50864804

>>50864275
He's buying and selling puts.

>> No.50864883

>>50863932
Biz is 99% shilling shitcoins and other get rich quick ponzi schemes. Nobody there has any actual idea about finance.

>> No.50864987

>>50864763
shareholders are massive numberfags, there is a 99 percent chance that someone grills cover on why they're wasting their time with holostars

>> No.50865373

>>50863561
If I was a richfag I'd buy shares and lobby for them to graduate the EN stars

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>>50863650
Shouldn't you be busy grooming more retired chuubas into joining your clique, kson?

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>>50863561
>EOP
>know nothing about stocks and finance bullshit
What do I do?

>> No.50866017

>>50865917
come to /#/ at the time people only talk about this stuff there

>> No.50866025

>starsEN rated as cause for earnings growth 2023
holy nijisanji tactics

>> No.50866046

Holostars is still a net positive to Cover's coffers, the question that the shareholders should be asking is why Cover is so slow to expand HoloEN.

>> No.50866056

>>50865846
Dude.Kson hates commies

>> No.50866069

>>50866025
>headcannon

>> No.50866136

>>50866046
Cover is wasting money on holostars, that's why EN3 is delayed

>> No.50866196

>>50866046
>Holostars is still a net positive to Cover's coffers
>destroy the career of several 5view girls
>to get a bunch of 3view guys
>bbbbbut two of them get good superchat/membership money
>net positive
lmao

>> No.50866233

>>50866196
if you still think CCVs are the factor to everything you're really not gonna make it into the world of business

>> No.50866245

>>50863561
>buy enough stock to get to ask questions
>ask yagoo face on why he is wasting money on holostars

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>>50866069
Roru rumao

>> No.50866353

>>50866136
Money isn't the problem.

>> No.50866376

>>50866233
It is though.

>> No.50866508

>>50866196
To be fair, those girls already self sabotaged themselves even before HolostarsEN was a thing.
>Sana graduated
>Bae was always a massive homo dicksucker since debut
>Kronii was barely streaming and keeps hiding her boobs
>Ame feuding with Gura because she doesn't want to be a sidekick
>Mori destroying Takamori and signing with a record label effectively selling out to her niche fans

>> No.50866546

>>50866353
Fagoo please give us real answer instead corporate bullshit

>> No.50866549

>>50863561
>'moving on to our musical talents'
>'SUISEEEEEEEEX'
...
>'and lastly, any suggestions for the futu-'
>'MANDATORY MICRO BIKINIS FOR ALL'

>> No.50866675

>>50863932
Even most people who are "experienced stockholders" aren't good at deciphering quarterly earnings calls and so forth. It is as important to know the industry, as much as stocks in general.
For example, doing sales research at work, I will listen to the quarterly earnings calls from big players in our industry. Gives me info on what the memes are among their leadership, even if they aren't currently sales leads. Sometimes there are moments where I even disagree, based on what I see in our slice of the world. But if you had me listen to an earnings call from another industry? Aside from Business 101 stuff, I'm going to be pretty useless at gleaning real info.

>> No.50866830

ask if Haachama is buried under the new studio

>> No.50867419

>>50866196
>>50866508
>Headcanons

>> No.50867658

>>50863561
Do Japanese companies give out free shit during these meetings? I get 10 lbs of free chocolate at the annual Lindt shareholder meeting, so if Yagoo wants my money he better gets some cute girls to cosplay my oshi and suck me off while I talk to the other Ojisans

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50867784

I will buy a majority stake and ask for Pekora to say peko more often

>> No.50867934

>>50866233
Oh I'm sure all those epic member gifterinos even out the loss of tens of thousands of fans
The boys can totally make up for a 75%+ decline in viewership for the girls, trust the plan sisters

With the homos around HoloEN has catapulted itself from an entertainment giant to a company sustained by the whales in a dwindling audience

>> No.50868078

>>50867784
the hero we need

>> No.50868100

>>50867658
I mean a share of Lindt is $125k so it isn't like the box of chocolates is free.

>> No.50868125

>>50867934
Delusional

>> No.50868328

>>50866196
Numbermutt...

>> No.50868426

Can i demand special personal service from the girls?

>> No.50868450

You think shareholders get to fuck the low tier holos?

>> No.50868490

>>50863561
RIP EROLIVE
or?

>> No.50868524

>>50868426
Yes that's a time-honored tradition in idol companies

>> No.50868912

>>50866233
How do you get a parasocial fanbase to spent on merch and membership (ccv) without they even watching them dumbass. It matter as much twitchfag view ccv as a metric or popularity and watchability

>> No.50870318

>>50868490
>We need to bring Hololive to the mainstream for higher returns

>> No.50870355

>>50864186
It's spelled "seethe", ESLkun, unless you meant to state the name of a certain African warlord Youtuber.
Work on your English reps instead of of shitposting on /vt/ from your mud-covered PC.

>> No.50870736

>>50865917
Start here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodge_v._Ford_Motor_Co..

>> No.50871002

>>50865917
>stocks
Gambling with loose connection to reality
>finance
Depends on what level you are talking about, low level one is just straight up bartering and reputation while higher level is exercise in exploitation and warfare

>> No.50871372

>>50866233
Their most popular members get 10-20k views on their vods most of the time. That's not a lot of people to work with compared to the girls that can get 10 times that. That small of a fanbase can't keep up with the girls in merch sales, sponsorships etc. The hype from debuting 2 homogens is already dying out and many of the less popular members are left to become 3views. Two of them getting decent superchats isn't enough to carry the whole branch

>> No.50871661

>>50871372
>The hype from debuting 2 homogens is already dying out
You're right it's time for Tempus 3

>> No.50872312

>>50871661
It would be exciting to get 2views in holopro, I agree

>> No.50872910

>Why are wasting money and resources on the male branch? Their numbers are very bad
>Why aren't we selling more explicit merch? I know otaku want to buy onaholes molded on the actual pussies of the holo girls, do it
>We should invest into a dating game where you can date every holo girl, people would buy it en masse

>> No.50873067

>>50872910
>good point
>terrible idea as that doesn't fit their brand's image
>great idea actually, keep it SFW and let the player romance their oshi

>> No.50873327

>>50867658
>I get 10 lbs of free chocolate
Jesus christ, what do you even do with this much chocolate?

>> No.50873387

>>50866233
It's not, merch and sponsorships are. Which homos are awful at.

>> No.50873560

>>50872910
Aqua has a game already doesn't she?

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>>50873560

>> No.50873798

>>50866046
>Holostars is still a net positive to Cover's coffers
Proof? Tempus caused Holo EN profits to decline across the board. Are they generating enough profits of their own to make up for it? As for JP Stars I can't imagine they generate much of anything.

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>>50865917
>>50865917
Okay.

So realistically for (you) you would just buy a largely diversified index like VT that captures the largest basket of stocks. Eventually holding Anykara and Cover. It is a gamble in the sense that you are betting Global Civilization won't end in the next 30 years.

Stocks on the other hand are like going to a casino. A company can have every thing you want to see and it just gets shorted into the ground vs some clown shitco that is drowning in debt that 10x in a week. The entire market is controlled by computers trading with computers and it has been then way since the 80s. No one can predict it, no one can time it, no one can beat it without cheating or stealing.

>> No.50874336

>>50873327
give it to stray dogs

>> No.50874368

>>50873560
>>50873610
yes and it was one of the developers most successful games of all time

>> No.50874386

>>50863561
uhhh kinda based?

>> No.50874413

I'm gonna buy enough stock to force them to rehire Rushia

>> No.50877064

>>50863561
This. This will be interesting.

>> No.50877212

>>50874413
Based

>> No.50878455

>>50865846
Kson loves money though, it's regulations she's not into.

>> No.50878524

>>50864040
Damn, too bad I bought shares on April 1st.

>> No.50878657

I want to force every talent to retweet/post Pekora fanart as their first tweet on the 1st of each month.

>> No.50879008

>>50866196
>viewer numbers are more important than money
I will never understand /#/, I think I have some kind of natural immunity to brainrot

>> No.50879053

>>50873798
>Tempus caused Holo EN profits to decline across the board.
Proof?
>>50868912
Anon you don't even understand English, forget finance

>> No.50879111

>>50874336
World's nicest shareholder over here

>> No.50879612

>>50863561
I hope this isn't where EN3 gets announced.

>> No.50879650

>>50863932
>/biz/
>Experience stockholder

LOL

>> No.50882626

>>50863561
Why?

>> No.50882665

>>50863561
HOLOBASED

>> No.50883068

>>50872910
>>We should invest into a dating game where you can date every holo girl, people would buy it en masse

Do it but Fire Emblem

>> No.50885785

>>50863797
Schizophrenia

>> No.50886220

>>50866233
Anon, stars JP are now doing better than stars EN, let that settle in and remember that stars JP are loosing support due to their performances (CF. standardised merch). Let that settle deep deep deep in your homobeggar brain.

>> No.50886479

>>50873798
we get it, you failed the Stars auditions for the 12th time

>> No.50889257

>>50886479
really?

>> No.50890844

>>50864426
thats the way the are man

>> No.50891003

>>50863561
I must buy cover stock so I can ask Yagoo where EN3 is.

>> No.50891056

>>50863932
It's me. I'm the stockholder form /biz/.

>> No.50891064

>>50864284
>we might get more info about upcoming projects nothing much
Wait does that mean this meeting would be a power struggle if EN3 would push thru or not? Will there be live translation?

>> No.50891371

>>50886479
Lmao i’d rather kill myself then by forced to pander to faggots and troons

>> No.50894408

>>50891003
best of luck, anon

>> No.50894714

Why would they ever stream it? For what purpose?

>> No.50894759

>>50863561
>male stockholders
Fucking whore company

>> No.50894833

>>50863932
There isn't a single person that owns stocks, indexes, ETF shares, bonds or any other financial instrument in all of /biz/.

>> No.50898976

>>50863561
cant wait

>> No.50900780

>>50864987
Rent free

>> No.50900912

>>50900780
He's right, death to homos

>> No.50902642

you don't even know japanese lmao

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>>50866196
>destroy the career of several 5view girls

>> No.50908683

>>50906299
Homos did this in addition to no streams

>> No.50910129

you cretins

>> No.50910213

>>50863932
>experienced bagholder from /biz/

>> No.50910219

>>50908683
How has JP stayed relevant when they've suffered under the tyranny of Holostars for much longer?

>> No.50910252

>>50863561
supher chat arigato

>> No.50913261

>>50873610
thanks for the reminder

>> No.50915554

>>50863561
EN3 when?

>> No.50915722

Where is Gura? and what is she cooking? Not an unreasonable question considering she's the most subbed holo.

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This digital puppet theater of a company has a market cap of >$1 billion? How?
Who the fuck looks at these retarded P/E ratios and says yep, this is where I'm gonna sink all my savings!

>> No.50916011

>>50915869
>retarded P/E ratios
It's a growth stock, vtubing is still in its infant stage as an industry.
>gonna sink all my savings
proofsies that anybody did that?

>> No.50916120

>>50863561
Question 1
how profitable are the homos?
and why are we still funding unprofitable shit?
Question2
why are some "new" talents from EN so lazy as fuck can we replace them? and some are legit destroying the brand, why haven't you fired them yet?

>> No.50916317

>>50906299
>hello manager-san can I have permission for X and Y games and also book a studio visit for my next single
>sorry we're too busy trying to make these homos popular would you please collab with them instead

>> No.50916460

man you people are obsessed with Tempus. rent free kek.

>> No.50916707

>>50916011
I'm not sure it should be valued as a growth stock. Is Cover a tech company? If so, what's the edge they provide over the competition?
Their proprietary software from what I've heard is pretty meh, the average no-name chuuba can easily match their offering.
They're betting big on large-scale facilities, but I'm not at all convinced that they will manage to bring in enough new viewers to justify the expenditures.

Their latest income statement show a big increase in revenue which is far in excess of any increase in viewership, which means they're growing ever more reliant on milking a relatively stable number of paypigs. Hardly a recipe for lasting growth.

The one region where they do have a steadily increasing audience (SEA) is made up of mostly developing countries with little disposable income - how much revenue can you hope to squeeze out of places like Indonesia or Malaysia?

And lastly, as a consoomer, I'm simply not convinced that Holos provide significantly more entertainment than random indies or any new corpos that come and go every few months. I don't see how they could set up a walled garden that might lead to decent enough margins that could remotely justify their current valuation.

All in all, I think it makes most sense to look at Cover as a JP-focused entertainment company, and most of those have really risible profit margins.

>> No.50917379

>>50916707
>I'm not sure it should be valued as a growth stock. Is Cover a tech company? If so, what's the edge they provide over the competition?
I mean, they literally have more money than they know what to do with.
>Their proprietary software from what I've heard is pretty meh, the average no-name chuuba can easily match their offering.
A realistic question actually, Cover will probably point to the new studio and some of their better live offerings for examples.
>They're betting big on large-scale facilities, but I'm not at all convinced that they will manage to bring in enough new viewers to justify the expenditures.
They can probably point to expanding markets and the huge growth in sponsorships and con appearances. In addition, retention is important, and it helps give them a huge edge on the competition considering how many new (and failed) vtuber startups there's been over the last 2 years.
>Their latest income statement show a big increase in revenue which is far in excess of any increase in viewership, which means they're growing ever more reliant on milking a relatively stable number of paypigs. Hardly a recipe for lasting growth.
This is why you're not a real shareholder, numberfag.
>The one region where they do have a steadily increasing audience (SEA) is made up of mostly developing countries with little disposable income - how much revenue can you hope to squeeze out of places like Indonesia or Malaysia?
A) The majority of HoloID primarily speak English outside of collabs and have a large overseas audience. Their merch regularly sells out very quickly and they recently had to add extra meet and greet dates because demand was bigger than supply. B) Malaysia?
>And lastly, as a consoomer, I'm simply not convinced that Holos provide significantly more entertainment than random indies or any new corpos that come and go every few months. I don't see how they could set up a walled garden that might lead to decent enough margins that could remotely justify their current valuation.
With the current twitch ad policy controversy and the constant drama they get into which causes numbers and sponsorship deals the fluctuate immensely, indies are not a stable investment. As for small corpos, they get into just as much drama, tend to be extremely poorly managed, and often fall apart - not to mention have lackluster viewership numbers if that's what you care about.
>All in all, I think it makes most sense to look at Cover as a JP-focused entertainment company, and most of those have really risible profit margins.
So you want to expand because you think that milking gachis isn't enough, yet you don't want to invest in overseas markets? Yeah, no wonder you're not an actual shareholder.

>> No.50917418

>>50916317
Hololive EN's individual talent managers are different from Holostars EN's individual talent managers
try again

>> No.50917929

>>50917379
Nigga I don't know the first thing about the chuuba industry, I'm just spitballing.

To say anything remotely meaningful you'd need to know how big's the total market (outside of China, since that's haram to Holo), how much of a market share they have and compare it to their leading competitor Nijisanji.
On top of that, Cover's FS as I found them are based on Jap GAAP and unaudited, so basically papier toilette.

So long as we're having a brainlet-tier discussion, I'll limit myself to guessing that vtubing will remain a niche weeb hobby similar to anime and gacha games, meaning it will never reach global mass-market audiences.

I'll also guess that within Japan/Korea/Taiwan, anybody who would be remotely interested in the chuuba bandwagon has hopped it already, so I don't expect dramatic growth to come from east Asia.

So to sum it up no, I don't think milking gachi is enough, I don't see any big blue-ocean strategies for Cover to reach big untapped markets, and I don't see them cleaning up the competition.

My opinion is that their stock is overvalued and their earnings in the next 3-5 years will not remotely justify the current price. Cover Corp at 2,300 yen per share is bullshit.

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>>50863932
I don't know have experience of stock holding but I have experience with bag holding crypto will that do?
I was planning to buy a bit of it at half of its price, but don't see the reason to buy it when the P/E is higher than 50.
It's a meme stock for gambling, not something Warren Buffet would invest in.

>> No.50918432

>>50917929
2300jpy?
I was waiting for it to drop under 700 jpy to think of accumulation.

One thing which was interesting for speculation was their Metaverse development.
It will fail because Japanese yes men and their saving face culture is incompatible with innovation, but could still make a good speculation bubble run if there is a metaverse hype bubble in the future.

>> No.50919848

>>50863981
interesting

>> No.50919938

>>50917418
t. totally trustworthy voices

>> No.50923455

>>50867784
bless you

>> No.50927990

>>50872910
>>We should invest into a dating game where you can date every holo girl, people would buy it en masse
dwarf fortress but instead of disposable dwarves you get random holos

>> No.50929959

>>50863650
fpbp
corpniggers OUT

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