/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

>joins Hololive
>has to pay the same share as other Holos yet get none of the benefits of joining the big brand
>bulk of fanbase mostly consisted of unironic EOP K-Pop fans
>Even after the collab ban is lifted most of your co-workers in the Big Warm Family refuse to acknowledge your existence, only get pity collabs from matuli and fubuki
>Get botched 3D that was most likely only given as a part of the contract obligation
>Do not even appear on HoloFes(even though Indogs and ENs did)

What exactly is the "Winning" son winning here? How do they manage to continue for so long?

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>>5095958
>most of your co-workers in the Big Warm Family refuse to acknowledge your existence
Isn't that mutual though? Roberu seems to avoid the main branch at all costs.

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>>5095958
Roberto..

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I was sympathetic to him before but he doesn't fucking stream like he promised he would more this year. I heard he might even have a girlfriend. Actual manwhore. Disappointing successor to Kaoru.

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>>5096028
there was some Niji male who replied to Suisei and got harassed into deleting his tweet.
Imagine the shitstorm if a Holostars did it since JP idolbuta already have a problem with their existence to begin with

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>>5095958
>Most well known male vtuber within the vtubing world, not just because of constantly playing the same game over and over again
>has connections all over the place, able to easily gain collab with even the biggest names and everyone that collab all leave with a positive view
>memes on par with the biggest names in Holo
>Fucked each and every one of the Animare girls, plus a few more from other companies. All of them wants seconds
>First vtuber and voice actor radio show in the entire world, btfo and making a certain seeth even til this day
>So much winning even youtube is on his side
>Cafeteria in his FREAKIN’ soul

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>>5096070
I mean would you blame him if he lost motivation?

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>>5096070
>>5096110
Having pussy every day is a strong barrier to overcome.

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>>5096108
>>Most well known male vtuber within the vtubing world
Excuse me?

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>>5095958
Clearly you are not Son's fan and in fact a drama baiter. Roberu's mission is show Male idols can also be popular as he liked the MV of Idolmasters Side M but when series was launched it received terrible backlash from the idol purists so he wish to give his best and stand on own next to the hololive talents.

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>>5096161
>not just because of constantly playing the same game over and over again

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Winning son is being passed around like an onahole by Animare girls and Yagoo is doing nothing to help him. BLACK COMPANY

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>>5096190
Not MV the Lead Male's voice Actor

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>>5096204
Even then Fuwacchi is above and beyond Roberu.

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>>5096161
I want him to collab with a hologirl only to see how far it would go.

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I love this manwhore.

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>>5095958
>has to pay the same share
suggar daddies (kiara , mori) and inversionists do not the talent

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>>5096227
why do you people falseflag with unrelated vtubers?

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>>5096209
What the fuck do you think Yagoo can do against the likes of this?! Do you even know how powerful this bitch is?

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>>5096190
>he just likes to be segregated into the ghetto branch he thinks it makes character
"standing on your own" is what indies do and not something you should be doing with your're in the biggest vtuber group.
Still doesn't explain being excluded from HoloFes. I don't have to be a fan to object to blatant discrimination because someone was born with a penis

[Anonymous No.]

"Winning" in that he's more popular than most male vtubers, but even that's only a fraction of even the least popular female vtuber. It's pretty pathetic, really.

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>>5096296
I'm not falseflagging, though. He said Roberu was the most well known male vtuber which just isn't true no matter how you slice it.

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>>5096227
To think Fuwa was depressed for a few days because his voice wasn't in sync at the pre-recorded parts of his 3D debut for a little bit and compare it to Roberu's...

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>>5095958
>man
>hololive
there's your answer

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>>5096381
In Roberu's defense he is not the type of person to show upset emotions or anything at all about his personal emotions. Fuwa talks a lot about his feelings.

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>>5096204
kanae channel

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>>5095958
Check his Youtube link retards

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>>5096084
Didn't Fubuki complain about him dodging her invitations to collab?

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>>5096461
Probably because he knows that people who come to watch him aren’t there for menhera episodes or drama bullshit, rather to laugh or have fun. He’s an entertainer first and he knows that, which is also why his collabs he’s always giving 110% to make sure they’re comfortable and having fun.

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>>5096108
>Most well known male vtuber within the vtubing world
The only people who hear 'male vtuber' and think of Roberu first are EOP Hololive-only watchers. I love him and hope he keeps growing bigger but come on anon.

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>>5096524
Always assume the opposite of what Fubuki says

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>>5095958
Subscriber/view count-wise, he is not winning. Body count-wise with YOUR oshis, yes, (You), he is winning.

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>>5096588
>Body count-wise with YOUR oshis, yes, (You), he is winning.
What if he's my oshi? What then?

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>>5096567
He collabed with some big Nijis recently

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>>5096548
expressing disappointment or any other negative feeling doesn't necessarily mean spiraling into a menhera meltdown. but i love and appreciate how positive son is.

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>>5096524
SWS, too good for some dumb friend. Why would he need Fox pussy when he's got every other animal lining up to taste his Robacon.

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>>5096647
Nice

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>>5096637
I'd say masturbation would count, but he probably have other oshis for this...

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>>5095958
he got the 4chan audience also for saying based department

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>>5096070
>>5096110
I don't blame him for resting after the ridiculous amount of streams from last year, even if one of his goals for 2021 was to stream more than 2020. That aside, he has only taken one day off in this month and packed it up with a good amount of external collabs. Not on picture, tomorrow's bar robel collab with haneru and kuku/hira_saiore on the 17th. The bar is NOT closed.

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>>5096524
I'm assuming he doesn't want to look like a leech, meanwhile Oga doesn't give a fuck, and the ID girls love Suntempo

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>>5096960
No one can be a leech it's just a meme

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>>5095958
He based
I like him
That's all that matters

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>>5095958
I hope we get a male Holo EN soon who'll fuck all the bitches and make all the nips mad. Only then will the main branch aknowledge the homos.

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>>5096318
Holofes was a hololive event anonchama, these guys are holostars. They're not excluded, the event was never for them to begin with. At the time holofes happened only one of them had 3d, for fuck's sake.

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>>5096524
>He still have trauma after sex with Matuli.
>"Oni-chan, you are so kind, can you do me one last favor? I always want a sister too'
>Pull out a scissors.

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god i wanna fuck his winning mouth

[Anonymous No.]

maybe the homo's models and rigging shouldnt be so damn ugly
it actually filters me, the retarded shadowing and all that.
I really tried watching them. they pretty good but sorry cant do it.
what were they tinking???!!!!

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>>5097095
My opinion is that he wants to keep at a far distance the main hololive fanbase, to avoid any possible drama. When re:noise(rikka, roberu, matsuri, fubuki) was a thing there were two ocassions where he felt danger. The first, Matsuri in bar robel where she asked him to be his brother. The second, Roberu was playing a game where he had to obey a random command from his chat. One of them turned out to be a love confession to Matsuri. Roberu went fuck no and privated the stream. I don't blame him for preferring to hang out with animare/itolife/tenkaiji, where the atmosphere is much more relaxed.

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>>5097571
No kidding, I had no idea what the aftermath was of the brother bit was since I didn't catch it live. How bad was it?

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>>5095958
When’s the collab?

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>>5096318
Of course, I can already see it:
>Holofes 2022
>Everyone is there to watch hags prettending to be teenagers dance and sing in 3d
>Everyone excited
>Yagoo comes on stage
>"Thanks for your support, we have an unnanounced attraction today"
>Roberu starts to sing
>Absolute silence, no claping, glowsticks turning off
>Yagoo starts sweating
>Audience starts booing
>Roberu cuts the song short, like if it was an anime op cut
>Sora rushes in to cheer up the audience with Suisei
>Audience still booing
>Suise rushed off the stage crying
>Bottles start hitting the Screen display and break
>Japanese gachikois furiously proclaim Hololive dead, mass cancellation of subscriptions
>Holostars doxxed and harrassed to levels that make Aloe's situation look like kiddy play.
>It's THE iDOLM@STER 2's Tokyo Game Show 2010 9.18 Incident all over again
Male idol fans and female idol fans don't mix.
Nothing good ever came from it, nothing good will ever come from it.
They'd be complete retards if they did it.

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>>5097571
Animare and homostars are good together. To some degree I'm glad that they don't collab with the rest of hololive, because otherwise animare wouldn't be in bed with him.

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>Implying Roberu needs the Hologirls when his chadflow can pull out Yuuki Ono out of nowhere.

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>>5095958
>K-Pop fans
K-Pop is lit tho

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>>5098212
t. Astel

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>>5096084
>there was some Niji male who replied to Suisei and got harassed into deleting his tweet.
hololive fans are so fucking BASED, this is why i love them.

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>>5097884
I don't recall his stance about collabing with EN. He does the very minimum with ID as it is. Only 3 collabs(bar robel iofi, starsXholoid among us and iofi/yuuki ono) since holoID's debut.

>>5098177
To be fair, Iofi played some part in that. Bless that alien.

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>>5095958
>bulk of fanbase mostly consisted of unironic EOP K-Pop fans
That's not Roberu's fanbase though, only about 20~30% of his fans are female. His viewership is mostly dudes in their late teens to thirties

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>>5096084
this happen with EN too, kiara did a colab with huke (her character creator) and got harassed and forced to apologize.
but muh minecraft EN server purity!

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>>5097571
>holobronies are so insane the talent is afraid of talking to each other
Maybe >>5097884 was right in 5%ing the shit out of this job.

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>>5095958
You don't even know Roberu. If you bothered to watch him more than 2 streams and a few clips you'd know that he's one of the most anti-unity talents in HoloPro. He WANTS holostars to be considered separate from hololive and to get more popular on their own merits. You're throwing a pity party for someone who doesn't want it. If you want to "save" a corporate vtuber, go to some other company because the holostars don't want your pity subs and views.

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>>5098502
That was more retarded minecraft faggots who claim he was cheating. Also, I blame stupid EOP zoomers that don't know who Huke is. If it had been JP, that should would have never happened since Huke was practically a cultural icon for a majority of the years within the JP weeb community.

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>>5098515
She’s literally gonna graduate and go the coco/roommate route ASAP. smart

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>>5098241
>Holo fans are so fucking retarded that’s why I hate them
Fixed that for you
Faggots like you should get the rope.

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>>5097095
He wouldn't actually be a leech, but he'd sure be accused of being one regardless.
>>5097571
>Both Matuli
Are you sure he's not just scared of her? It's understandable, I would be too.

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>>5098502
>Can't even collab with your creator now
what the fuck, and of course the chicken is never going to do it again. Can't lose those numbers.

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>>5095958
Pretty sure one of the smaller hologirls (maybe it was Mel?) talked about Hololive doesn't expect you to give your share if you're not getting as much revenue, so this would apply to HoloStars too. Also most of them are probably working another job while having making chill streams, it's really not that bad.

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>>5097095
Tell that to Robe, he himself said that the reason why he doesn't collab with Holos more is because he doesn't want people to view him and Holostars as leeches, which is also why the Stars don't initiate collabs with JP, even if they want to (Oga revealed that when he talked about Choco during one of those card opening streams he did, saying that he would like to collab with her again but that he couldn't be the one to ask), not to mention that he is an idolfag himself so he is well aware of how rabid idolfags can be, especially when mixed with Purityfags and Unicorns, which Hololive has a lot of, so him wanting to stay as far away from the girls as possible is understandable.
Besides, why would (or rather, should) he or the other Stars, bother trying to reach out to the ones who gave him and Holostars their backs when the branch was at it's lowest?

[Anonymous No.]

>All these post about matuli
Matuli shenanigans actually very tame compared what Haneru did to Robe. That rabbit straight up claim Robe as her plaything

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>>5097571
Lmao what a fucking coward. A meme confession to Matsuri would've been epic. Maybe he actually deserves to live in the ghetto

[Anonymous No.]

>nooooo I don't wanna leech off Hololive!
>I'll just leech off other popular vtubers like Ryushen, Debi, and Maimoto instead!

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>>5100463
yeah epic like coco and hachama who still get hate by people pretending to be chinks.

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>>5100525
That's why I believe in the dodging hololive's fanbase theory. He doesn't mind accepting or initiating collabs with external groups.

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>>5100463
He just have no holo policy anon, he's pretty okay being accused of fucking all of animare
>>5100525
>>5100525
>Ryushen
It's Haneru's doing, Robe was invited by her
>Debi
Again son was invited by Haneru
>Maimoto
Ito life is the host

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>>5100525
Getting collabs with outsiders is itself a skill (and one Roberu in particular is known to have, with Bar Robel and all).
Any collabs within Cover could be taken as some sort of obligation by them to help out the Holostars, no one can really say the same for outside collabs.
Also probably the toxic fanbases, as others have said.

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>>5100673
>I believe in the dodging hololive's fanbase theory
He sure dodge Re:Noise reunion to play dodgeball instead last week

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>>5095958
Who?

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>>5100525
He's afraid of being CALLED a leech not actually leeching. When it comes to collabing with Nijisanji, Onoyuu, 774, etc he knows those fanbases won't give him that shit.

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>>5096108
Pretty sure the Cock was the one pegging him.

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>>5101219
>cock pegging anyone

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>>5095958
>Hololive

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>>5101219
>He doesn't know
Regular-san...

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>>5096108
>>Fucked each and every one of the Animare girls
No wonder he was so nervous when he was introduced to Haneru's mom.

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>>5096108
Who is seething over Roberu's radio?

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>>5096108
Wow, with so much going for him he must be watched by tens of thousands of people every stream.

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>fucks polmao and gets cuck superchats.

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>>5102100
cursed image

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>>5096209
Different companies, anon. YAGOO doesn't give a shit what they do outside of being a chuuba. Multiple girls still have active roommate youtubes and twitters. Roberu is #1 of the Stars so I doubt they'll give him any grief over getting his dick wet. It's the salty girls that are running their mouths.

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>>5102340
I fugged and forget to put the name. It's a certain blue one who was also supposed to get a radio show with a VA and was to be the first Vtuber and VA to do it but as with all things, son cucked her hard

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Never noticed how much he looks like battler

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>>5098502
God what a shitshow. Kiara and Huke could have really had some fun collabs to the huge benefit of both of them.

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>>5102445
you deserve them for harpooning that whale

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>>5095958
robert-san gets pussy so he really is winning

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>>5102464
>Roberu is #1 of the Stars
Worlds tallest dwarf.

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>>5102340
Suisei

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>>5102340
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0FeFNkhHzI

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>>5103072
Better than being an elf.

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>>5103159
Since Ono Yuuki is getting 3D i'd love to see them do radio in 3D. Even if that defeats the purpose

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>>5103186
Fuck you, you goddamn Orcs. Stop raping our men.

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>>5103159
>that thumbnail
I'm mad that Roberu STILL hasn't gotten his 3D collab with Rikka and hasn't been able to show off his fixed shoulders yet.

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>>5103257
What do you mean, it's planned. Don't be mad

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>>5103257
Robesan confirmed that he will have a 3D stream this month. He wants to do a comparison with his old and new shoulders.

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>>5098626
He actually believes this.

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>>5103484
Are male artists the most cuc*Ed ppl in vtuber industry? They literally create them yet can't interact with them freely. It's like they're an illegitimate father lol

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>>5103577
Only if their "child" is Hololive now that they've gone too deep into pandering to Unicorns.

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>>5095958
he's gonna save them

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>>5103577
Lack chats with Flare, but a stream collab is out of the question.

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>>5103577
That's mostly a hololive problem. Gaou-papa has collabed with his daughter Tenten.

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>>5103577
Theres a reason why Aruran is known as the favorite child despite being less popular

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>>5103781
Ririmu exists too and she doesn't have the insane schizos Flare gets.

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>>5096259
He would never be a Beachbum-type NTR guy, that's slander!

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>>5103833
cuz it's ririmu herself who's the insane schizo

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>>5103868
Ririmu is a social autist

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>>5099927
>Besides, why would (or rather, should) he or the other Stars, bother trying to reach out to the ones who gave him and Holostars their backs when the branch was at it's lowest?
What is this rrat? Please explain, or at least tell me where to look for my archive reps.

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>>5102340
>>5103079
>>5103159

Lmao Suisei was salty about it.

Like bitch what are you even being butthurt about ? ya'll being pulling in numbers and blowing in popularity when the other branch was at its lowest, getting lots of shit their way for no absolute reason, and most of the 1st gen members thought it was gonna get disbanded and forsaken.

When they finally get something going on for them, you still manage to get jealous about it because of your shitty superiority complex, instead of sucking it up and being happy for once for the people you overlooked, and acted like they never existed or you had any no ties to them. Im kind of surprised she doesnt feel any guilt about it, when they couldnt even simply just acknowledge their existence, when they were running and doing collabs with Niji Males left and right rent free in their pants.

she fanboys so hard over Mori and her songs, but the bitch didnt even mention "Spiral Tones" the song she and Rikka(oh no a Holostar, mom come pick me up im scared) both released. Kek.

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>>5099927
Roberu was how I learned about the Jupiter ordeal. I don't think Cover could ever dish out that level of falling on your own face repeatedly but I can't blame the guy for his stance.

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>>5104665
>Jupiter ordeal
qrd?

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>>5104738
Idolmaster drama. Basically faggot fans got mad about a male division of the game, being large enough fucks to go after the voice actors themselves.

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>>5104526
You got all that from a throwaway joke comment?

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>>5104461
Not a rrat. 90% of the girls don't acknowledge their existence. There's even a clip of Noel talking about how she ignored them and she felt a bit bad. Only 5 of the holoJP girls follow them all on twitter. Watame got shit on twitter when she replied to Kaoru back in the day and had to make a tweet saying there's nothing wrong talking to your coworkers.

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>>5105009
watame was also one of the few holos that interacted with coco on twitter despite constantly being spammed by chinks. she's the complete opposite of sheepposters....

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>>5105009
I hope you didn’t watch that clip from that baitclipping faggot. He intentionally left out shit to make Noel look bad, cutting out her explanation on why she doesn’t and can’t interact with males in general due to her upbringing.

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>>5096161
>posts a literal esport player

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>>5104784
There's also the fact that three(?) of the idols (Azusa, Iori, and Ami IIRC) who were producable in the first Xbox game were suddenly not producable anymore in iM@S2, the same game where Jupiter first showed up. Lots of people assumed that they cut corners on the producable idols in favor of more Jupiter scenes. Of course unicorn faggots were a big factor but I don't think Jupiter would have gotten the same amount of backlash if the game was better made and respectable to the original idols to begin with.

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>>5105060
Nah there's a full one with her talking about her brother. I'm not blaming her or anything but it's acknowledgement of some ignoring them.

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>>5105060
>he actually bought the "im shy and introverted so I can't talk to men" meme

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>>5105062
suupachatto aaarigatogozaimaaaas

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>>5105062
Both Kuzuha and Astel like FPS.

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>>5104526
friendly reminder that even kiara could get accepted in an idol group while no one would take suisei

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>Implying Noel didn't use her already stablished brocon character trait as an excuse, not wanting her coomer fans getting upset.
Now we know what JP people feel about those heinous idolfags, they really eat that shit up.

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>>5104461
Heres the spoonfeed anonchama

https://youtu.be/j6h0rbjWx5E
https://youtu.be/DGZz_zdb7ho

Basically all Hololive members (except FBK, Matsuri, Choco, Roboco, Coco, Watame) never acknowledged their existence, and gave them the cold shoulder, acting like theres no ties between the two {im talking about the period from 4 months after the Holostars branch creation up untill 1/4 of 2020}

If they acted differently and took the initiative to interact with them (the extroverted members who have no problems interacting with males, for example the ones who collabed with male Nijis frequently back then) things wouldve been so much different now and the 2 ex-Holostars members (Still hoping the 3rd, Kira recovers from his illness and comes back...) would probably be still around

https://youtu.be/PL0UuyyZPLM
https://youtu.be/yzHV_km8soA
https://youtu.be/mEQInzRHxwM
https://youtu.be/nD-kUlFqr70

A fucking waste i tell you......so much lost talent and potential.

If for example Suzaku was still around to this day, he wouldve been both the FBK and Pekora Male Version all in one package..... he most likely got fed up with Cover and quit when they didnt give a fuck about em early on.

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>>5105212
wonder what a collab would look like

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>>5105366
>most likely
He left because Cover did not help him. He could barely stream at the time because of his shitty computer.

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>>5105366
i can barely watch kaoru clips i'm still so fucking pissed that he was gone he is everything i wanted in a vtuber and there hasn't been anyone who fit all these holes in my heart

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>>5105009
I don't blame someone like Rushia for ignoring the stars, considering the audience she has harvested. At the same time, I have a lot of respect for akirose, fbk, towa, choco, rbc, festival, ID and EN for not treating the boys like they were candlejack.

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>>5105637
>EN
Wasn't it only Mori?

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>>5105430
Funny how Cover helped Subaru when she had nowhere to stay, and couldnt help the poor guy by providing him some proper "equipment to do his work"

Never change Cover never change.

Atleast their true colors are starting to show, after the whole Coco fiasco and how shes been given the piss by management.

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>>5105366
>https://youtu.be/j6h0rbjWx5E [Embed]
i hate how passive JP fanbase is in their support of this cynical routine

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>>5105637
I don't watch much of EN, who other than Mori has talked about them? I know she's the only one who's collabed with them.

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>>5105724
Kiara does speak of them, at least having said something of hoping to have Holostars in her talk show. Amelia also mention astel a few times mostly about Apex and they both went to each others stream before. It probably wouldn’t be a stretch if they might have played offstream but who knows.

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>>5104738
It's the Tokyo Game Show 2010 9.18 Incident that >>5097916 mentioned.

During Idolmaster 2's TGS announcement that some of the girls who were fan favorites would not be playable - that already didn't set well with people, and one of the seyuu left the stage over the news and other was in tears because they were big fucking promoters of the game and now they were pushed aside without fucking knowing it. Then, the producers were cowards and left the seyuu take the negative reactions by themselves.

The audience of idolfags was already on edge then, not only they lost their favorites but they just had witnessed the emotional state of the voices of their waifus be destroyed.

But then Bamco announced a male idol unit, Jupiter - which made the mostly male-fans get really upset, like, they stood up and started leaving when the announcer was talking. Idolmaster was something of a gyaruge, like a dating sim, and having men suddenly meant competitors over the girls attentions, then there's the fact that it was assumed they cut corners to include them.

The reactions afterwards were not good at all, idolfags were breaking discs and swearing revenge, it didn't help when it was reported that staff was vehemently against it and the director refused to go back.

Their attempts to fix the shit later were terrible, the male idols were invited to the Idolmaster radio show in which they were told to act like jerks to the girls in order to not seem like they were romantically involved with them and thus were not competitors to the "producer" (i.e. the player) when it came to the girls' affections, but then it came across as they being rude to the girls, which led to more fan backlash.

Jupiter was debuting with mostly new male seyuu and a lot of those guys found themselves at the receiving end of a shitload of harassment that wasn't pretty. A good thing is that despite this they went on to have successful careers (one of the guys became Kirito's seyuu - and while SaO went to shit, the dude did get one hell of a big break into major roles).

It took years for the fanbase to accept male idols, and that's after they were relegated to a side-game (Idolmaster Side-M) with their own mostly separated fanbase (and then, the most popular Side-M idols are traps, so....).

Roberu himself talked about it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nY_hLXP-ULg

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>>5105724
Ina has drawn chibi Lamy and Bossu after the new years outfit reveal.
I don't know if anons would call that meaningful interaction but it's some form of acknowledgement.

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>>5095958
>has to pay the same share as other Holos yet get none of the benefits of joining the big brand
This person is Roberu. Only he would know that for sure.

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>>5105685
Ame made seaweed drop his spaghetti

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>>5105825
>>5104784
Thanks

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>>5105724
Amelia as talked about them check her japanese learning stream and they have visited her chat when she played apex 2 to 3 time max.
And im not sure about that one but apparently she as also visited Astel chat one time.

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>>5105902
Seaweed drops his spaghetti all the time around new faces.

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funniest shit was that pekora once asked "would you feel jealous if I collabed with stars" and ppl were fervently sending Akasupa saying YES

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>>5105926
Something something Astel spaghetti.
https://streamable.com/z9sy56

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>>5105816
Amelia visited Astel's unarchived Karoake once and Astel freaked out so hard he nearly had a heart attack lmao. He then continued singing Disney songs and almost choked out at one point.

Bet En management is also restricting HoloEn to interact with Holostars since theyve been doing that to Coco (honestly can their management ever not suck for once?)

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>>5105637
Not wanting to collab doesn't bother me, but there's something about not even acknowledging the existence of co-workers that doesn't sit right for me.

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>>5105685
>>5105724
-Ina: drew NY Shien, helped Roberu dealing with spam trolls and doesn't have an issue with replying to the stars on twitter.
-Ame: likes stars fan art on twitter, listened to astel's karaoke streams and replies to stars messages as well.
Kiara: went out her way to promote Roberu's 3D when she didn't have to.
You might think "lol that's it?", but that's more attention than other members have given to them in almost 2 years.

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>>5105851
She also replied to Oga's, Roberu's, and Shien's birthday greeting if that counts, I guess (although Bossu's was more of a "good morning" reply when Ina made her good morning tweet that day)

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>>5105724
Ame had some interactions with Astel until her fans went full shizo/shipping fags. Astel's fans went shizo as well. Other than that Ina has appeared in aruran's chat and aruran appeared in her chat once, distracting her while her pizza glitched through the floor in that pizza simulator game. Made it seem like aruran stole it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7O-vzyO7WH0
She was also lurking a roberu live stream where she ban hammered some spammers.
also this >>5105851

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>>5105994
>YOU ZA QUEEN!
never change astel

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>>5096259
holy shit,
roberu literally the ntr guy personified

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>>5105952
Lmfaoo, this is why i started getting filtered out by some of the members, the whole GFE and Idolfags/Unicorns pandering is making me feel umcomfortable at this point.

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>>5105825
What a glorious trainwreck, please tell me it was recorded somewhere

[Anonymous No.]

>>5105851
Ina is a big vtuber fan in general, she would probably have ended up in Nijisanji if they were the ones who opened EN auditions first since she's also a big Nijisanji fan.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5105060
Yes Noel is definitely scared of men unless they give her money the fear disappear a bit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5106012
Roberu and Sora once talked about something like that during their call in. Sora herself express surprise and mention the same thing, about them being separate division despite part of the same company to the point as if they were a completely different department which I wouldn’t be surprise by. It could have been like how Azki was how she was completely separate by being in INNK music that the other girls don’t even interact with her. Roberu was also super surprise to the point where he had to have Shinove double check if it was real.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AVfwXUS2eIo

[Anonymous No.]

>>5106004
That one time Calli collabed with Rikka on his channel the whole thing was scripted

[Anonymous No.]

>>5106004
QRD on Coco? I heard she was hesitant to mention Holostars on stream and I didn't know why.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5098502
Huke didn't deserve that shit. They should have let him stuck around. In fact I want to see him do a collab with kiara.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5106063
What The fuck why would they do that.
Astel was well welcomed when he sent his superchat to Amelia by her and chat too.
And your telling me that Astel as this type of schizo fan too im disappointed to learn this maybe thats why they haven't interacted in months

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>>5106088
0g3y

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>>5106357
Astellas are the craziest type of Holostar fan. They're nowhere near the level of Hololive fans, but they're overly coddling and protective of him.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5106288
She wanted to do a shaving stream collab with Kaoru but pretty much went silent on the stars after he graduated

[Anonymous No.]

>>5106288
not that hes saying the time where enma was pretty much avoiding any collab between coco and EN

[Anonymous No.]

>>5106357
Astel has rabid fangirls.
He told them off the day after the incident if I recall.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5106357
Astelfags fans are notoriously schizophrenic. A prominent western homoclipper actually just turned into his anti because he was so pissed that Astel didn't take his gaming advice and that Astel softblocked him.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5106416
They're literally K-Pop fans. Hololive is really throwing these poor boys to the demons...

[Anonymous No.]

>>5106448
Wait did Astel block him?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5106448
I may be mistaken but I think the guy you are talking was actually a regular, not an astella.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5106480
dude basically spent an hour roasting him on stream by teaching everyone the basics of apex, ranked points and basic strategy

[Anonymous No.]

>>5106480
The guy said that Astel softblocked him (Blocked on Twitter then Unblock, to forcibly make the other party unfollow you silently) but who knows if he's telling the truth. It really seemed like he was posting himself here from how many immediate screenshots of his tweets appeared in several threads as well as rabid defense.

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>>5106357
Clipniggers painted him as a timid baby, so he has a lot of weirdo fans who's overly protective of him like he's an actual baby

[Anonymous No.]

>>5106357
Gurame schizos used to pop up on his stream and even superchatted him telling him to fuck off

[Anonymous No.]

>>5106063
Wasn't ame just straight to the point and explained on how she isn't going to do a collab with any of the males anytime soon because of retarded the fans get? No one deserves to be yelled at just for interacting with each other

[Anonymous No.]

>>5106448
It was also the day after Astel spent an hour going full menhera on his ass and told him off, then proceeded to win a full 1 v 3, getting to masters rank on apex.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5105280
Kiara only got in because she was a gaijin who could speak nihongo

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>>5106568
I don't think she said that was the reason, but considering she went from talking to Astel on stream and strongly hinting at a collab to "It's not happening" with the only major event in between being fans being stupid...
It's pretty clear what happened.

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>>5106480
Yeah and he was actually initially threatening to "call him out" for it publicly before the Discord trannies he was talking to talked him out of it. Dude is full schizo.

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>>5106357
Astel has his share of crazy gachis. He once got a maro that ended with "I will support Astel until the moment I can't trust you"
He got pretty pissed about being called a simp/otaku simply for interacting with Ame and called shipperfags 童貞

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>>5106288
Coco back in Last years February-Mars was interacting a lot with Ex-Holostar member Kaoru, she tuned in some of his electricity zapping streams, was teasing him and daring him to go for the higher output.

I heard she was planning to do a Shaving collab stream with him (god that couldve gone terribly wrong as her first male collab stream)

I dunno, after Kaoru graduation she went full 180 and stopped caring Holostars altogether, only untill a few months recently where she sometimes started including Holostars memes in her reddit review.

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>>5106554
>gurame schizos
I don't remember that happening. However, a fan of his not being happy about interacting with Ame is real.

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I'm sorry but pls don't drag the girls into this.

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>>5106620
Wait, Astel or the faggot?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5106694
The fag was threatening to call out Astel.

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>>5106635
March*
caring about*

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>>5106676
I don't think anyone in the thread who seriously follows the talents are blaming the girls for this, but are instead blaming the fanbases.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5106784
what would that achieve? "i was so annoying a streamer i was a fan of forcefully made me unfollow" makes the guy look worse than the streamer.

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>>5106676
It's neither the girls or guys fault. It's the autistic fans and their muh purity shit

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>>5106357
He does, unfortunately.
>>5106441
He did, Astel HATES that kind of fans, same as Izuru, and they both aren't afraid of shitting on those idiots and tell them off if needed.
>>5106635
From what I have seen during my reps, she also said that she only did that because of the sleeping pills she was taking at the time, but I'm unsure if that's true or not.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5106676
i will keep spamming the girls asking them about holostars collab

[Anonymous No.]

>>5106831
He saw softblocking as underhanded behavior and thought his fans "deserved to know" he's a fucking moron.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5106784
People actually checked that guys Apex Rank.

Aaaand His peak was Gold.

Lmaooooo what a faggot, he doesnt know jack shit about Apex and runs his mouth despite that telling Astel (a guy whos Master Rank) how to play.

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>>5106831
guy thought he was extremely important since he was a homo clipper and a mod in the homo discord

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>>5106113
https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm12194581

You can see the announcer introduce Jupiter and people just up and leave with dramatic music playing in the background.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5095958
I really believe ALL of the HOLOs including the HOLOStars should be consolidated into one Minecraft server when the Cliffs & Caves update comes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5106903
Okay, I'll share this part of his rant because it's funny. As you can see he was massively butthurt that people pointed out his rank after Astel's rant lol.

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>>5106854
>she also said that she only did that because of the sleeping pills
I hope thats just an excuse otherwise its kinda shitty

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>>5106892
>>5106915
he doesn't even speak japanese, he doesn't matter to the fandom and matters even less to astel himself. what a massive self-absorbed faggot.

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>>5106853
>It's the autistic fans and their muh purity shit
are you aware that Niji also has the same autistic fans and it's not excluded to Hololive, right? yet they behave like this towards them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8S_GuiBxWg
while Holos goo out of their way to keep thoese autists happy. Kanae has a lot of rabid fangirls who object to him getting close to girls but he tells them to stop acting as if they own him instead of appeasing them.

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>>5106953
If I was one of the stars I would be so fucking terrified for my safety if I ever came across Rushia on stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>5106291
he shouldn't of cheated then

[Anonymous No.]

>>5106959
>people who play the game a lot will know the struggle of trying to rank up
Sure it's hard, but ranking above gold is easy as fuck lmao. Even my buddy who's new to the game made it close to master. The hell is this retard on about?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5107014
Think of the humorous suffering they would be inflicted with if she clamped onto one of them as her Onii-chan.

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>>5106928
How do you fuck up pandering to idolfags that badly?

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>>5106903
The nigger was so autistic he gave a sincere answer when Astel replied "Please teach me how to play" to his initial tweet, it's harder to pick up sarcasm over the internet but holy fuck.

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>>5107014
>Rushia logs in
>Homos run to a corner of the map and stay quiet to avoid being seen on stream
It would actually be kind of funny

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>>5106959
>Rank doesn't mean shit
The classic cope.

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>>5107038
literally all you have to do to get to gold is not die right away, the game practically pushes you to gold
gold to plat just requires you to survive to top 10

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>>5107025
Who gives a shit about duplicating shit in minecraft? That's some actual autistic shit right there. Call me when it's something more serious

[Anonymous No.]

>>5107025
NOOO NOT CHEAT AT THE MINECRAFTRINO

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>>5106986
you forgot to post the best one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYDDY7A858o

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>>5107025
He didn't by any reasonable concept of cheating. The enchantments he put on the crossbow literally DO NOT APPLY to that item. They wouldn't have done anything, it was just a reference to Kiara.

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>>5106986
I remember it was Kanae and Kuzuha, i think, had a yabe where they heard the sound of one of the niji girls in the background and their fans lost their fucking mind, mass disliking her videos and spamming the shit out of her. It was hilarious

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>>5106986
I think we're all aware it's not just a hololive problem specifically. Doesn't help that japan has that autistic idol fan mentality that's really creepy as hell

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>>5106854
>she also said that she only did that because of the sleeping pills she was taking at the time
damn that's kinda cold

[Anonymous No.]

>>5106986
Kanae's demeanor attracts the most schizo of teenage Kpop stans, but his heart belongs only to Akabane.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5107089
That's the funny part, the points are extremely generous in early rank. It only hits hard with you make it to platinum

[Anonymous No.]

>>5107139
We have the same schizos here. The difference is the schizos here are all bark and no bite.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5106986
No one said it's exclusive to Hololive and there is no need to bring up Nijisanji here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5106953
People joke about the final yabe, but that scenario would definitely be the main culprit.
>>5106986
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8S_GuiBxWg
Holy grass.

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>>5107137
That was Nijiantis dogpiling on the chance to dogpile on the Kuzuha and Mikoto when they saw the chance, not actual Nijifans. There's a reason Kuzuha lost no subscribers from the ordeal and all the comments were obviously from 5channers like "lol what's wrong Mikoto I thought you were fucking Rikiichi?".

[Anonymous No.]

>>5106986
Nagao and Fumi are too cute. He studied a game manual for 12 hours just to perform well before a collab. And they sing well together too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5106959
This fucking fag will still suck off Astel and rt his posts like a good little beta he is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5107169
Hoshikawa...

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>>5107249
All in the same. Where there’s shit, shitflingers will join in and fling shit. Not just Holo or Niji but anything that have a following even if not significant. We have tons of shitflingers here that goes apeshit on a daily basis and 5ch is a literal war zone at times.

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>>5106986
It's not like the girls told their fans to act like that or to hate males.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5106676
> please don’t drag the girls into their own company

[Anonymous No.]

>>5107408
They didn't tell them not to hate males, either...

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>>5107408
not that anon but i wouldn't blame it on the girls even if they knowingly enable their schizo fans. unity is nice but those same fans give them a lot of money and support, i would do the same if i were in the girls' shoes.

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>>5107458
I figure that's just something that goes without saying.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5107408
They can call them out and stand their ground, you know that right ?

just ignoring and keep pandering to them will only make it worse.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5107458
Most vtuber are autist with little to no interaction skills. The same as other anime, hell art in general related work. Find an artist whose good with social interactions and not a giant autistimo. Its near impossible.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5106416
>>5106441
>>5106448
Now I'm curious. How did Astel's fanbase react to Ollie getting close to him?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5107483
They will lose 10% of superchat at most. Not all Holofans are idolschizos this is Niji propaganda

[Anonymous No.]

>>5107137
>>5107249
it did absolutely nothing to kuzuha and while rindou got dislike bombed for a bit she's fine now and her actual fans didn't leave her. plus if they really are living together or fucking whatever the rrat is she gets to benefit from biggest male chuuba money on top of it.

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>>5095958
If they get mentioned instead of them mentioning them, there is no shitstorm, so in turn it forced them to become what I like to call “legitimately good content creators” unlike the member of the female division. Being good at curbing in turn gets them noticed by their senpai and gets them collabs with the likes of Fbk and Matsuri.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5107556
Who do you think dug up an old clip of her moaning on stream?

[Anonymous No.]

So whats stopping the EN from doing what the ID are already doing and just collabing with the Homos?
They don't follow the same idol culture bullshit as the JP, in fact they are dropping the whole senpai and generations thing for the next group of girls.
Calli is has done so already, and Ame communicates with Astel all the time.
Would love to see Gura do a Disney song with Astel at least.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5095958
*LAUGHS IN YUUKI ONO AND LITERAL JAPANESE CELEBRITIES THAT ARE HOUSEHOLD NAMES UNLIKE ANY MEMBER OF HOLOLIVE COLLABS*

[Anonymous No.]

>>5107610
gura and astel's voices would sound great together

[Anonymous No.]

>>5107556
Not sure how it was in the beginning but everyone on both sides loves the two interacting, except Astel had to tell chat off for collab begging.
>>5107590
You're delusional if you think Astellas did that. I saw the thread where people dug up that clip (months after it happened, mind you). Astel was not mentioned. Those dramawhores who don't even watch Hololive probably have no idea Astel exists.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5107610
they're scared of their own fans turning on them
twitter interactions and actually doing a collab are completely different

[Anonymous No.]

>>5107610
anon... they barely even collab with their senpai in holo

[Anonymous No.]

>>5097916
They dug their own grave. Now they have to lay on it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5107610
Teamates and chumbuds would kill themselves and ame/gura both know it

[Anonymous No.]

>>5107557
I don't think it's a coincidence that the top two HoloJP members in superchat earnings never collabed with males.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5096548
>Probably because he knows that people who come to watch him aren’t there for menhera episodes or drama bullshit
that IS entertainment to fujos
fuwa makes so much money because he panders to female goslings

[Anonymous No.]

>>5107610
Struggling to overcome the language barrier is only cute when its two girls

[Anonymous No.]

>>5107694
this is an autistic nitpick but please remember female gosling =/= fujoshi

[Anonymous No.]

>>5107688
matuli is still in top 15th of Hololive superchat earnings despite everything

[Anonymous No.]

>>5097571
Bros, why is Summer Colour Festival so fucking insane?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5107408
They don’t do anything I find it funny how people like Coco, Suisei, Marine, Matsuri, Or Flare are hyped up by people as the ones who do want they want or speak their mind. but act like pussies when it comes to telling their fans off from acting incels.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5107657
Thats on the JP side though, Ame has tried to do collabs with basically all JPs and most of them ignore her, Rushia at least talked to her and Jenma before declining.
I doubt Homos would do the same when they accept collabs from indis and ID

>>5107672
You faggots said the same thing about Deadbeats, and Calli is nowadays collabing with random male e-celebs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5107862
Remember when everyone was hyping Coco as the "anti-Idol" who would change Hololive and then she immediately chickened out once her SC skyrocketed

[Anonymous No.]

>>5107610
Gura barely talks to EN.
Ame can’t not be awkward to save her life.
Ina she can barely talk without sounding like she’s mumbling.
Kiara she’s trying to push her fake ass Yuri relationship and her fake ass I want to be an idol shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5107694
Fuwa doesn't have menhera outbreaks, I only mentioned that because comparing it to Roberu, there is quite a difference. It would be like Roberu saying he got so stressed he got a stomachache and had low spirits after his 3D debut, instead of what he did which was laugh at it and move on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5107862
That would require some parts from their incel fanbase as well. The streamer can only do so much out of going full blown menhera to tell their viewers to not act like complete fucking retards. Fucking Chumkeks for example are cancer because even though Gura tried, although weak if I do say so, to wrangle them they still act like fuckheads. Even Ame has trouble keeping her more rabid fans in line even when she goes full blown and call them out on it. It works both ways and both have to do it, like a mom calling out her piece of shit kid but he doesn’t listen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5106854
>>From what I have seen during my reps, she also said that she only did that because of the sleeping pills she was taking at the time, but I'm unsure if that's true or not.

Kaichou......you cant be serious.........you appeared on some programs with some of them on your roomate account a year or two ago......

[Anonymous No.]

>>5107923
I legitimately don’t get how people can hype up Holo talents as “do whatever they want” “tell people off” or “strong”

But then call all of them Introverts when it fits the narrative.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5107775
15th is pretty low down there, anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5105280
Kiara had a bunch of accolades and shit retard, she was number one at something and had tried being an irl idol before, it’s convenient doxcucks leave that out. and while she tried it she got more views and shit than any of the jp girls ever have even as hololive members.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5107919
>Ame has tried to do collabs with basically all JPs and most of them ignore her
Tell me who were the ones, I'll unsub to these whores

[Anonymous No.]

>>5108017
I’m only talking about when it comes to interacting with males when it comes to that they all act like timid pussies to comment on it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5108115
Rush*a

[Anonymous No.]

>>5107919
Mori has ghostlings but not on the same level of ame and gura.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5107014
>ywn accidentally cross paths with rushia and then type in Japanese into the chat “OI GET OUT OF HERE MY FEMALE GACHIKOI WONT STAND FOR THIS” and then drop down a metric fuck tonne of buffing potions on yourself and draw effect causing arrows and proceed to unload them into her killing her in a spectacular fashion
My Holostars fantasy, I wish to one day make it real.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5108115
This can't be news to you bro, Ina has also done the same, most notably with Marine who has done a great job as ghosting her for almost a year.
Only the less popular Holos like Aki, Roboco, and Mel actually accept collabs request regularly from EN.
In fact I was surprised that FBK finally collabed with Ina recently.
At least Gura seems to finally stopped being blacklisted by JPs since Roboco will be collabing with her on her birthday.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5108085
The talking stream when Ina was asleep roght? It was pretty fun. Kiara excels when it comes to conversation and keeping the mood, providing commentary and such since she has the energy for it. Its why her watchalongs are really fun and why she’s important when the girls all collab since most of them are shut ins with barely any social skills. A group of all introverts is worthless. Even in japan the most popular types of comedy are menzai basically a straightman routine and Kiara does provide for that at times.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5107831
I have several ideas.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5108315
Yes.
I notice she commonly gets shit on by false narratives from doxcord retards.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5108265
Damn, imagine ghosting other members in the same branch............

Cant begin to imagine how the Homos have been treated 2 years ago up untill now........

[Anonymous No.]

>>5108115
I know Aqua and Towa play Apex with her all the time, but won't do it on stream for whatever reason.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5108265
Spoonfeed me the ina marine thing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5108017
Did Gura ever explicitly call them out for harassing FBK to the point of her crying? I don't recall that happening.
At any case, streamers outside Holo regularly told their viewers to fuck off and filter their fanbase all the time. This doesn't happen inside Holo because idk. Most uncharitably I'd say they're greedy whores blinded by massive popularity and sub growth, most charitably they're just introverted people-pleaser that got dragged around by their fanbase. At least it gets them numbers, so good for them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5108265
>>5108515
Ina's main issue is that she can't stream outside of certain hours because of her day job. A lot of the holos only stream during certain times which happen to be the times where Ina is asleep or working. Same with Ame and Gura who sleep during those hours.
Mori only very recently finally started collabing with JP regularly.
Kiara has been getting semi-regular collab since the beginning.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5108515
How new? Don't you remember the whole "Korean rrat" from like six months ago? Ina making only things worse by going "people are just busy...."

[Anonymous No.]

>>5108506
In defense of both of them Ame is utterly terrible in Japanese and very awkward. Aqua is terrible in English and very much a solo streamer too, onstream Aqua-Ame collab will be so painful I can't even think about it. Towa's might be slightly better but the language barrier is still huge.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5096084
But Suisei collabs with males all the time...altho mostly indies who? from the music scene.
I guess that was due the console wars between corpos.
Altho she hasn't collabed with males lately...

[Anonymous No.]

>>5106986
It's not exclusive to Hololive, but it can't be understated just how much the Hololive girls adhere to it.

A few days ago, Rushia was TERRIFIED when she accidentally showed Holostars while looking at the fucking Hololive schedule site on stream. Can you name anything that comes even close to that with Nijisanji?

[Anonymous No.]

i love holostars

[Anonymous No.]

>>5108586
Ina has had collabs with the EN, indis and ID on all times of the day, bro
Bullshit excuse.

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>>5108586
>>5108610
I was looking for if there was anything confirmed about her being ghosted. I haven't payed attention to the EN girls in months.

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>>5107556
Ollie and Astel were quick to establish the sibling relationship and clarify they didn't see each other as the opposite sex but as little sister/big brother, Ollie even outright saying she doesn't want to be shipped with him. That probably helped with keeping the crazier fans at bay. Nowadays you won't find anyone complaining about them, on the contrary there are more annoying shippers who keep bringing up the other in their chats, Ollie had to tell her fans to knock it off.

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>>5108462
Polka your TRPG bros...

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>>5096084
>>5108640
This had nothing to do with Suisei. The Nijiguy was Kaida Haru who was a pretty new debut at the time. He had antis (from Nijisanji) from wanting to collab so fresh off the gate. He simply tweeted that her Tetris skills were amazing and people decided that meant he wanted to leech and they hated him. He's fine now though.

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>>5108524
The problem with Gura is that she became too big too fast and it becomes a problem where the fanbase itself attracted tons of outsiders that don’t care for rules or anything and then it solidified into something something too hard to control, that no matter how much she try to tard wrangle it will always fall short unless she goes full blown like Amelia did and even that will not be enough. Gura is also a gateway for many newcomers so she would have to tell her chat not to be retards nearly every time to hope for any effects and even then they won’t take her seriously because huhu cunny shark. It reminds me of nousagis and how cancerous they can be.

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>>5108640
she collabed 2 months ago and made a song Cover with two male vtubers, whom the Holostar boys also have connections with. Dunno why despite that she never mentions or wants anything to with them....i dont understand you SuiSui

its kinda weird that their roomates are to some extent acquaintances of each other, but still act cold towards them......i still dont get why.

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>>5108718
Ina outright stated on stream that she wouldn't collab with JPs indefinitely, and guess what it happened, only recently has she been able to collab with them.
Hence why there were a ton of rrats, ranging from Cover punishing because her roommate works for Chinese companies to JPs hating her because she is Korean, etc.

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>>5108703
> Rushia was TERRIFIED

Didn't watch and I can say authoritatively this didn't happen
Rrats are eating your brain

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>>5108906
Wait, when did ina first started collabing with the jp? I forgot.

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>>5108017
>Even Ame has trouble keeping her more rabid fans in line even when she goes full blown and call them out on it.
Things that never happen unless you talk about backseater. Stop history revision. Ame keeps herself in-line bc she's a professional and knows her audience well.

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>>5108939
Why ? I can actually picture that happening.

Its Rushia were talking about here, she goes full Menhera style most of the time, gets scared that her fans would abandon her and much more on a repeated looped cycle.

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>>5108939
I don't watch Rushia either but what was said is Holostars showed up on the stream and she jokingly made a big deal of it. As in, she wasn't actually scared, or not allowed to mention them. It's her dynamic with her fans.

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>>5108906
Ayame didnt reply or even bother looking up the fanart she made for her

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>>5107919
>Ame has tried to do collabs with basically all JPs and most of them ignore her
Revisionism.

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>>5108703
>>5109033
>>5109073

source ?

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>>5106416
>Astellas are the craziest type of Holostar fan
Are you completely forgetting Izuru's fans?

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>>5109093
That's just par for the course with Ayame though

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>>5095958
>Do not even appear on HoloFes(even though Indogs and ENs did)
Wat?

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>>5109004
Mel collab in Feb
Aki collab in April
MH collab a couple days ago
>>5109093
Has ayame even responded to Coco's graduation yet?

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>>5106616
>>5106568
During the New Years stream someone asked about a Holostars collab and she more or less said "I'd like to... but I don't think you guys would like that... yeah....."
I don't have a clip or timestamp for it but maybe someone else does

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>>5108703
>It's not exclusive to Hololive, but it can't be understated just how much the Hololive girls adhere to it.
I think that's what that anon wanted to say. Nijis generally can filter their fanbase and told their fans to fuck off if they crossed the line at a certain point. For Holos there's no line for fans to cross (and as we figured out for the last few months, no line for antis either).

This non-confrontational, pure market-pandering approach gives them numbers, no doubt. On the other hand this means Holo fandom is a festering mess of schizos and Holo girls have a large number of frankly absurd restrictions and limits, either imposed by management and themselves to avoid pissing off literally anyone schizo and loud enough to threaten them.

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>>5109190
Astellas are schizo over Astel, Izuru fans are annoying children. There's a difference.

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>>5109246
There's also the JP tour with Nene and Polka around Christmas time. If you wanna count Non-Holos she also collabed with Pochi even before the Mel collab IIRC.

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>>5109287
Wrong. It's earlier than that. She said that since the early episode of detective diaries/superchat reading that she isn't gonna collab with them.

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>>5109163
Seems that it wasn't a rrat
https://youtube.com/watch?v=j69OXuE__KI

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>>5107458
The worst thing you can do is to draw attention to a topic by telling a large fanbase not to do something. People will deliberately go out of their way to do it just for a chance at being singled out and recognized, because they instinctively realize that they will be the 'special ones' since they believe most people will follow the streamers' dictates.
See people spamming 'ame raid', 'raid from ame' and other specific variations of the phrases she used to tell people not to type them, indicating they were listening but decided specifically to do the direct opposite, and the people messaging Atlus directly despite repeated requests from Mori not to do so.
You would have people specifically going on the guys' channel telling them to 'stay away', 'fuck off' and other such talk where there was none before, because they're trying to elicit a more personalized reaction from their holo. Then when the holo has to comment on it again they can tell their friends, "See that? She's talking about ME. I did that. I MATTER. I'M RELEVANT." They don't actually care about what the holo wants, they just see something to leverage to get what they want - reaction and recognition.

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>>5109504
Huh I didn't catch that one but I could've sworn it was mentioned at one point during New Years too (I think during the outfit watchalongs). Eh whatever, this year's been a blur already and I can barely remember what went on in streams a month ago with how many chuubas I'm following

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>>5109534
>all the comments saying they're barely aware of what Holostars is
God damn.

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>>5109504
>>5109287
Makes since now, seems that Coco "doesnt really have a problem collabing with males only if it benefits her", like with Kaoru back then when he was trending a lot and making unique streams.

Kinda disappointed in her approach tho.

or i dont know maybe shes just avoiding them so that she doesnt send her west taiwan bugs over to em.

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>>5109287
No worries about the clip. That's the stream I was specifically talking about

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>>5109717
I hesitate to blame her after thinking about how much she's had to restrict herself from her antis going into other peoples streams. At that time the Stars got such tiny numbers it would have discouraged them from streaming.

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>>5109717
>>5109833
She knows her target audiences and what she's in for and be professional about it. That's the line she draws since the start. Your best bet for the collab would be with Calliope rather than Gura and Amelia.

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>>5107127
Ok I was only subbed to hololive girls but that clip was one of the cutest clips I've ever watched, you somehow made me sub to a niji male good job anon

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>>5109547
God, this might be the most realist thing I've read yet in this garbage dump. I'm incline to make fun of you for not being an utter moron and using actual common sense and your brain, but I really don't want to to show how sincere I am. Ah well, what the hell.

WHAT THE FUCK ANON?! ARE YOU ON YOUR MEDS?!

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>>5110225
They're a really cute couple.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-U5_eNhHVFE
who haven't interacted on stream for several months because of beggar fans

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>>5105994
Asteru...

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>>5109534
holy shit.......


the amount of disrespect both in the comments and Rushia's half assed remarks......thats just sad man, you always end up asking yourself how did things escalate this way.

This is what happens when something Holostar related popps up :

1) pretend you dont know them and ignore that they exist
2) actually forget they even exist
3) get confronted about it
4) say that youre sorry
5) say that youre not good with male interactions

every-single-fucking-time

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>>5104526
Mf calm she just joking

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>>5110979
I stopped caring long ago, at this point bringing the boys into the eyesight of these fans would be bad. They can ignore them all they want. They're doing great right now.

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>>5105430
Suzaku’s singing voice was so beautiful too, I think you can find some now through bilibili archives, it really showed me how much is missing from modern stars...

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>>5106083
NTRoberu posting is art....

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>>5105705
That bitch!
She did collabs with and even did a confession to a male Vtuber before...
I hope the Japanese dig up that stuff and fucking spread it through her fanbase. Fucking hypocrite.

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>>5111525
That was way before her fanbase became what it is now. Do you even know what you're talking about?

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>>5111458
It’s really the opposite though, 774 has Roberu locked in their basement.
Now,
I’m putting together a team.
We’re gonna save Roberu from the clutches of Animare.

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I wish Fubuki could just say like “collab with the stars or me and (other members that follow her) will leave the company” I don’t care about collabs but the fact they have to apologize for accidentally showing them on stream.. that’s what I would want to end.

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>>5111750
God speed anon

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>>5111750
You're a madman. A MAD MAN! Someone already tried once! Do you want to end up like Peanut-kun?! Look at what Haneru did to him!!

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>>5111750
It's too late, anon... we can't save him anymore
https://youtu.be/17JRVGrtaNk

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>>5111887
My son! My sweet, beautiful son!! How could this have happen?!

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>>5111795

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>>5111887
>we only have a few hours to Robegeddon
Dear god...

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>>5111887
It's over.......the RoberuBowl is done...

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>>5111955
It’s extreme but I’m kinda drinking atm, pls understand shienposter I’m usually straight edge...

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>>5112039
Just make sure to drink water and take this med: Holostars are doing fine

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>>5111795
I don't think FBK will be willing to sacrifice basically her whole career no matter how good Oga's cock feels. Also like what >>5112103
said, our boys are doing just fine.

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>>5111986
Polka, don't look...

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>>5112359
The problem with such a thing would be that it won't be Fubuki who will suffer but the boys because those same assholes she might flip off with go after all of them on the account that THEY stole Fubuki or something. It's the same mentality the bugs have. Don't think that bugman mentality and the JP schizos are any different. In fact the JPs are 100x worst.

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>>5112630
Someone needs to make a Haneru edit of him being tied up already

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>>5112103
This. Also, I'd definitely rather not get the Stars came into attention of median Holo fan. Sometimes numbers just aren't worth it. Roberu's path of avoiding holos and interacting with indies and smaller agencies is far better.
I definitely think it's completely shitty that people hound them just because they interact normally. Collab begging and saviorfagging is trash but they're literally coworkers, twitter interactions should be a literal non-issue. Props on Watame for telling off some of those schizos who gave her shit.

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>>5110979
It really is depressing the reality of it. So many people whitewash it on leddit and yt comments but most of the girls still treat the stars as unwanted step children and not even professionally.

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>>5112784
Not only are numbers not worth it, Holostars numbers are actually pretty good. It's just that people think that 10k is the norm, or even 5k, when those are just amazing numbers.

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>>5111750
>We’re gonna save Roberu from the clutches of Animare.
>you and the boys get captured instead
>forced to debut as the first gen members of Animale (or maybe it should be called Anikimare?)

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>>5095958
This thread is infested with some high-end schizos, holy shit
Imagine distorting reality so much for the sake of a autistic narrative
Also, is a idol company, of course there will be idolfags. Holostars and the main branch should and will continue being separated. What's a fair concern is the lack of recognition and support(from cover) to Holostars.
Stuff like this >>5109534
(which is obviously kayfabe, understandable that holostars fans itt wouldn't know about Rushia) it is still disrespectful imo

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>>5113107
Implying you wouldnt be used as a warm up bench while they are waiting for Roberu

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>>5113085
The numbers have turned Hololive into a full on soulless Unicorn pandering group, it hurts.

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>>5113222
Even outside from Roberu, almost everyone outside Shogun are now doing more or less networking reps.
We got from this great things like the Animare Dodgeball tournament last weekend.
It is much more satisfying seeing them trying to improve their situation instead of most of the holos who don't need to try anymore since they get success no matter what they do.

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>>5096070
Jealous,huh? He made it and you didn't.

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>>5113110
I get that it’s kayfabe, but it just seems needlessly cruel to publicly talk that way about coworkers 1/10th the size. Is there at least any indication they’ve interacted off camera? Like with Polka and Roberu?

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>>5098241
Consider getting an hero'd

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>>5113472
I used to be sympathetic to her insecurities, but she has them because she is a bitch in the first place.
Let's not even speak of all the meltdowns she got on stream and in private, or when she was bitching because she wasn't featured enough in Hologra while others got there even less than her.
It will never happen but I hope that unstable girl will never get close to any of the boys who don't deserve to deal with her personal shit and her fanbase.

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>>5113085
Yeah hard agree. Honestly I think numbers only matter in the sense that it helps the streamer in continuing their work. Sometimes even meager numbers help, sometimes even world-level numbers don't help like Coco...

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>>5113738
Totally agree.
The only holos who deserve to date the boys are Mel, Roboco and Subaru
The rest are all menheras

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>>5114059
Nah, most of them are fine. It is just especially Necromancer and Aqua who are ticking bombs. Even Festival looks tame next to them.

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>>5114059
Um, the boys should stay pure maidens until I fly to Japan. None of this dating shit.

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>>5114059
Speaking of Subaru, is Maimoto still safe for her to collab with? They haven't done anything recently, but with Ui getting her 3D soon it'd be cool to see an Oozora family 3D stream.

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>>5114736
I want it to happen so badly but I've given up hope. Subaru said she wanted to pander to gachikois

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>>5098502
That sucks I must have missed that, I remember he would be in chat around after her debut pretty early on. He seemed to really enjoy watching and laughing at her fuck ups in Mario 64.

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>>5107074
I know, right? Every game with a ranked ladder, no matter how old or new, no matter the genre.