/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

>Fails to gain the Hololive audience who only want cute girls
>Fails to gain the Nijisanji audience because the fans can't stop shitting on NijiEN males
Who is Tempus for, exactly?

[Anonymous No.]

For (Me)

[Anonymous No.]

(You).

[Anonymous No.]

>>52958554
gura deflection thread

[Anonymous No.]

They have the Tempus audience it seems.

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>>52958554
Tempus2 was the biggest mistake, because somehow the first gen found at least a little audience, the second one is just dead since birth

the fuck is wrong with management

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>>52958649
go back to your faggots if you love em that much

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>>52958679
Consisting of what, a whole 500 people?

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>>52958554
For Ame

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>>52958684
Bettel is literally the best performing member, retard

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>>52958554
>Who is Tempus for, exactly?
Nobody. They're a terrible mistake.

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>>52958649
>homobeggar reveals “her”self as a gura anti
Like pottery

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>>52958554
suxy got doxxed deflection thread
Swallowpinos currently flooding the board with their shit

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>>52958554
>nijisanji audience
who?

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>>52958554
Ironybros and trannies

[Anonymous No.]

Me

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>>52958554
Calli for Magni
Ame for Leader
Kronii for Vesper
Zeta for Axel

[Anonymous No.]

Fujos.
Obviously there is gonna be big overlap between NijiEN males and HomoEN males fandoms, but the key difference is this.

NijiEN fans are mostly yumejoshi, in other words the female equivalent of unicorns, women who want BFE basically.
HomoEN fans are mostly fujoshi, in other words they want gay scenarios. Just take on fucking look at /MANS/ and you'll see the absurd ratio of posts there that are basically gay fanfics. The homos know this too and actively push the gay "bromance" angle, especially Magni.

Now the funny thing is, neither of these groups have a big incentive to desire cross-gender collabs. Yumes don't want it because it's stealing their men (and this was already proven by the backlash Nina and Reimu got for example). Fujos don't want it because it's not gay.
Knowing this will help you understand why "homobeggars don't actually watch homos" is a thing. They literally don't. It's exactly as the stereotype asserts, they are the most casual of casual fans who can barely be assed to even watch clips and get all their "knowledge" through twitter osmosis (ie. BVTM cucks). The vtubers are just pawns to fight their little culture war against the incel chuds. Once they've successfully ruined the hobby and gotten their little dopamine rush from it, they will move on to the next hobby.

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PLAPPA PLAPKIN KNEELED TO A DEBATE TRANNY
screncap me twitterfags

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>>52959014
>Calli for Magni
>Ame for Leader
Do anons actually believe this rrat, they have no chemistry. The rest is at least believable.

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Judging from their threads on /vt/ their audience are a bunch of autistic male niggers who hate men and who can neither shut the fuck up or kill themselves.

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>>52958554
They should have just hired Global Elites in CSGO or immo3/radiant in Valorant with social skills instead of whatever they hired in Tempus

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>>52958684
I actually prefer all of Tempus 2 members over vanguard. Bettel is actually funny. Flayon is degenerate. Shinri seems like a nice guy. Hakka actually has a niche with ES speakers. Tempus vanguard feels like a huge mistake. Especially vesper. Magni is funny. Brian seems fine too. But all are just outclassed by the niches Tempus 2 have made. Tempus 2 also want to do things JP stars way and don't get involved too much in girl collabs. Just want to do their own thing and have fun and make their own way.
Meanwhile Tempus 1 seethes about girls and collabs I suspect because of vesper.

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>>52958844
true that, my b

tempus just didn't need 2 gens, some of the members not doing shit in terms of numbers, just putting bettel, vesper, axel and hakka in one and only gen would have made better number than the shit we got

ironically tempus is somehow not that much below the niji homos anymore though

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>>52959014
Leader for Gura

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>>52959299
those tits look disgusting make her flat

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>>52958935
that nigga shinri is not doing numbers, ain't no one watching his ass

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>>52959299
>Commission
Wow, Abayo but wow.

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>>52959275
>Meanwhile Tempus 1 seethes about girls and collabs I suspect because of vesper.
I think it was because they were caught up in Mori's "incels btfo'd" bullshit which she got bored of by the time Vanguard debuted.

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>>52959299
a faggot tranny fucking a woman? you must be mistaken

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>>52958935
>Shinri
The only rival that is worthy enough challenge the raspberry king.

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>>52959402
>faggot
Nah, the guy is a legit pedo. Got outed as one in the first month of debut IIRC.

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>>52959348
No bully. Shinri got 1k for that stream.

[Anonymous No.]

Flay's design is for pdf files. i wanna hear the noises he'd make if you punched his tummy.

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>>52958554
Maybe a better question is why korean micropenis men like Altare always "Supports the cause"?

Is there a link between etnicity and tranny love, or is it just the Korean micropenis? Seriously, I have never seen a Korean man with any opinion that differs from total submission to whatever the "current year" meta is at the moment

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>>52959497
Source?

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>>52959503
was harsh, you're right, sorry

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>>52959549
It's just what the Asian American "community" has turned into.

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>>52958554
Idk, but I never seen a tempiss fan not shiting on the girls to promote their boys.

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>>52959275
>prefer all of Tempus 2 members over vanguard
>Tempus vanguard feels like a huge mistake
If you’re going to pretend to like tempus, at least know tempus 2 IS vanguard.

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>>52958844
And he also has the best looking model? Imagine if they didnt make the homos look like a laughing stocks.

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>>52959497
we need to get that motherfucker out of the company, literally the worst holopro member

how the fuck is he still not out

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>>52959054
Mostly accurate, but the Tempus fanbase is slightly older than the average NijiEn fan. And the fandom prefer it that way because 30 year old fujos do not like being in the same spaces as tiktok teens.

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>>52959497
>Nah, the guy is a legit pedo
So a faggot. 90% of male pedophiles are fags.

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>>52959299
WOAH

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>>52958684
There are only 2 standout homos overall, and one of them is from tempoop (Bettel). If tempiss has any sort of claim to supremacy over tempoop, it’s simply that Magni at least does “okay”, but the other 2 in that gen are no less shitters than the rest of poop.

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>>52959549
Next you're gonna tell me South Korea has anti-male laws that would give Trudeau pause, heaviest regulations on gambling, porn, prostitution and gaming (ironically enough) out of any 1st world country...and their now-pardoned ex-president was a puppet for a feminist version of Majestic12

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>>52959876
i don't know if we can say that tempus failed, considering they average more viewers than a lot of the starsJP members, but definitely a mostly useless project

if it makes some people happy to watch them, why not, as long as they just don't start chasing clout because they have a small ass audience

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>>52959564
I dont save homoshit sorry, you gonna do a archive dive if you want proof.

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>>52960123

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>>52959742
So chumpedos are fags? kek

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>>52960179
No...

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>>52960123
>>52960179
With Kronii please. I'm a vesperonii shipper.

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>>52958554
Tempus is for female vtubers

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>>52960074
They failed. Remember, Some of Reddit was predicting them to do better than Council and reach "300k subs in the first month"

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>>52960179
It was meant to be...

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>>52960377
delusional as fuck, the most subscribed holostars member literally has lass subscribers than the least subscribed hololive member

homobeggars set their expectations too high

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>>52960135
No

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>>52958821
nah, like 1k at least. you can tell when only one of them is streaming

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>>52959348
>>52959433
That stream had literally just started when the SS was taken. Shinri ain’t a worldbeater, but he is far from the runtiest homo either. He at least generally does better than 2 of his genmates and Axel.

Also he’s the only homo that doesn’t collab with the girls, so unless your a homobeggar you should want him to do well.

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>>52960074
You have to consider just how much RELENTLESS fucking shilling Cover did for them though
>paying for all their fucking projects out of the company's pocket, when every girl has to self-fund normally
>Yagoo cocksucking them EVERY day on twitter
>HoloEN twitter tweeting about every breath and shit they take

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>>52958554
Hololive antis and Twitter troons who are more interested in fighting the unicorns than actually supporting the talents.
This thread is a great example of what kind of mentally ill shit stirrers were brought in by these useless fucks.

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>>52959099
mindbroken from one "duet" song KEK

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>>52960802
>brought in by these useless fucks.
I don't think they ever had enough reach for that

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>>52958554
I watch them occassionally. As long as they are content with what they are doing, I think it's all good. And seeing how there are 2 new models (one of them yet to come), I guess they are doing it well enough.

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>>52960776
they want to get a return on investment now, the management saw they flopped and they started regretting their stupidity

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>>52960776
>girls self fund
shut the fuck up retard

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>>52958554
They were supposed to appeal to the hololive (idol) audience by being idols, but they fucked up with the collabs/interactions. Now the idol fanbase resents them for what they did to holo/the fanbase. No takebacks either, the goodwill is dead. Tempus2 bears the sins of the father, too bad for them.

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>>52960769
Its about 2k. From the looks of their CCV there are those that exclusively watch only Vesper and Bettel, Vesper has overlap with holos and Bettel overlaps Nijis.

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>>52960802
Example?

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>>52960961
They literally do you psychotic retard

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>>52961294
To do what?

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>>52961329
Produce songs you retard, what is wrong with you?

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>>52961294
No they fucking don't you stupid tranny freak. Niji's all self fund. Holos have a budget for debut and projects you stupid fucking cunt. Don't ever open your stupid bitch mouth to me again you fucking tranny cunt.

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>>52961349
Which ones?

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>>52961455
>chink meltdown out of nowhere
Your race is more insect than human and your corporation is crashing and burning.

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>>52961455
only idolcorp is confirmed to have a funded debut, retard.
hololive debuts are an easy investment so the talents can easily self fund. their projects are also self funded except for irys songs. those are funded by cover. cover won't even give them decent PCs to stream to when they travel to japan.

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>>52961843
Post your proof anytime little tranny troony groomer. You fucking ugly brown eyed cunt. I'll wait.

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>>52961843
Untrue. They all have budgets for projects but can spend extra out of their own pocket if they want. This was confirmed by Bae and Kiara. Also I don't know where you got the idea Hololive self funds debuts. They absolutely do not. I think it was Bae who said they get a budget for debut art, animations etc.

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You guys realize that tempiss still outperforms the JPstars, all but maybe 2 small corpo vtubers, and a ton of NijiENs, right? Not saying they’re a hit, but they’re hardly this huge disaster that this board makes this out to be either. It would not surprise me in the least if Cover internally views them as a success because they do better than the JP homos.

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>>52960776
>paying for all their fucking projects out of the company's pocket
Surely you have proof of this right?
Because Axel already said he paid for his giant song project out of pocket and Vesper even offered to cover half of it and he declined.

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>>52958554
>Who is Tempus for, exactly?
Kronii and Kobo

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>>52959292
>axel
He's literally the biggest runt of them all. If anyone, it should have been Vesper, Bettel and perhaps Magni, cut everyone else.

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>>52962439
But they also upset a lot of hololive fans and hurt their relationship with holo and the girls. Now imagine if it was EN3 instead.

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>>52962761
I'm fully invested in the pessimistic train that EN3 will not change a single thing outside of their first 3 months.
They'll be cool and active for 3 months then instantly see their senpais like Ina and Gura then go full coast mode and then holoEN will just have more of the same thing.

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>>52961875
nta, but "tranny troony groomer" sounds like you're 7 and haven't understood yet that insults which don't apply, don't insult.
As for what is or isn't funded, no clue, I doubt that in Cover orisongs and animations that are announced during debut are paid out of their pocket. But I don't know, nor really care, it's not like it isn't money they got from Cover anyway.

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>>52962859
They don't have to be super hardworking or anything, they just have to exist. Imagine if Hololive was only Fantasy and HoloX.

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>>52961875
https://youtu.be/feTpmMRah3g
maybe if you used more buzzwords you would've blended in better newfag

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>>52962761
Nah, Tempus 1 was fine. I (and I assume many others) just went "I'm not really interested in Holostars EN but that's cool for the people that are I guess". It was the near-immediate debut of Tempus 2 "by popular demand" straight afterwards with no sign of EN3 on the horizon that truly burnt up any potential good will. Even the corporate bootlickers on Reddit threw a fit over it.

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>>52962890
Not reading all that cope and seethe tranny trooner groomer lmao!

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>>52962954
4 more Ina's that don't stream and 1 Ame that homobegs.
That's the same as existing.

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>>52962859
Ina is getting better, it is just extremely bad timing to do her family vacation then immediately have to go to Japan for HoloSummer.

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>>52959014
>>52959099
Mori doesn't have chemistry with anyone.
AltarexAme is a meme just because of Ame being a thirsty retard after his debut but Altare has completely ignored and avoided anything that has to do with Ame. Maybe the NTR changes things because it's very likely Ame will guest at some point but until then Altame is just a meme.

Magni has a crush on Ame which is pretty obvious if you hear how he talks about her, he got too real during a members stream and cried about how nice Ame was and how he didn't feel hame had made it until he met her during the Worms Tournament. But all of that seems to be a one sided crush. It feels like Ame thinks of him like a little brother.

Axel on the other hand, that's the true ship. Whenever Ame and Axel are on stream they end up together, making a comedy duo and bantering. Every Altame fanart is a shitpost, AxelAme fan art is organic and comes from their chemistry.

This might be the reason Ame and Zeta stopped interacting because Zeta and Axel had some thing going on before Ame got on the way.

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>>52963072
Why do you hate women so much

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>>52962761
EN3 would be just more money for cover. they weren't interested.
luxiem popped off and they didn't want niji to have a monopoly over male chuubas. male chuubas are also YAGOO's only failure. they chose to chase that and had somewhat of a passable result.

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>>52963051
>by popular demand
Where did this even come from because I can assure you it didn't come out of Tempus member's own mouths.

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>>52963013
>2 years ago
This is it? This all you got?

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>>52963101
I already told you I'm pessimistic as fuck about EN3.
Of course I'm going to be a doomer about it.

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>>52960377
They are a massive success from cover point of view, I think Vesper mentioned that they were expected to be 2view shitters

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>>52963119
It was about the collab ban that had literally never been lifted early for anyone

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>>52963119
Just a meme from when they lifted HQ collab ban early due to popular demand as worded by management.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52963125
Cope

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>>52963284
>posts proof
>cope
actual retard

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>>52962859
Well people are going to be skeptical already if they're idolfags because now they don't even know if the girls are just gonna be male collabers or not.
You're also a retard (probably a homobeggar) who pushes the idea that stream amount is everything, when it's clearly not in terms of viewer interest and retention. This is the only angle you can push because it's the one thing you have on Gura, even though she's still effectively the only relevant EN. I bet you don't even watch the streamers that stream so much, which is the funny part. You just have to seethe at other chuubas over this, either because you don't like them or you don't like the idea itself. You already proved that with your warped interpretation that the girls would just do that, when CLEARLY the other talents aren't influenced by that, BOTH in EN and JP.

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>>52963412
>claims stream is not everything
>claims gura is the only relevant EN
lol ok chumbie, bit too obvious there though, bud

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>>52963279
>>52963281
It was done for IRyS even if was purely for Myth and it had to be fought for. That aside, it's wack that HQ debut was first time Omegaa was really active ever since basically the character was revealed.

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>>52963095
ame and axel "chemistry" is because axel reminds ame of her dogs
zeta and axel stopped because it was too good and both of them knew and they had to put a stop

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>>52963412
>A whole lot of projection because I mentioned one metric (stream time)
Go off queen. Just because I didn't bother to mention things like viewer retention or brand value, I'm suddenly "thing you say i am".
>one thing you have on Gura, even though she's still effectively the only relevant EN
Am I the one saying things or are you? Projector-chan

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>>52960404
The guy that drew this quit watching Hololive and Tempus entirely and now draws My Little Pony OCs
So basically your average Tempus "fan"

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>>52963279
>>52963281
Maybe I'm high as shit but it was done for uproar too afaik. And IRyS as that other anon is saying.
But maybe we'll see with ID4 / JP7 / EN3 if it truly was a special case for Tempus or just new direction that coincidentally started with Tempus.

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>>52963636
He got a fucking short manga of him granting peoples’ wishes for Tempus. I can’t believe they spent money on that shit.

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>>52963807
An unironic tranny jumping in to make the discussion about themselves? No...

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>>52963553
>claims stream is not everything
It isn't, and your digging your heels in because it's the one thing you can criticize with Gura won't change that fact. There are plenty of chuubas who stream a shitton and nobody cares for whatever number of reasons.
>claims gura is the only relevant EN
When you compare to JPs, yes. Or even from Cover's activities themselves, using Gura as the face for EN.

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>>52963864
Let's not mention Mori and how her success is bringing in brands like One Piece, or her contract with UMG.
Let's just ignore those things that she's achieved.

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>>52963684
You already outed how retarded your take is by claiming that the girls will just imitate Ina/Gura, when there's plenty of very active holos in EN and JP alongside the ones that don't stream often. You are an idiot.

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>>52964027
>Early council didn't happen, it just didn't!
Lol. Sorry you weren't here for it I guess, newfag?

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>>52963080
I feel like that extended health break is just gonna follow Ina to the grave at this point because when she started doing schedules again she only dropped like two streams.

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>>52963972
Good for her, which makes it even more unfortunate about what happened with the EN branch and her stream numbers. Really would've liked to see all of EN and its fanbase become stronger together rather than fragmented.

[Anonymous No.]

Take care of yourselves, it will make you feel better!

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>>52963864
she's a mascot and you know it. all she is now is nothing but a tool to sell merch.
mori is the protagonist of holoen with all her recent deals and shit. she also networked her damn self so much at this point even one piece noticed her.

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>>52964189
wtf are you on about retard, keep seething at the girls

[Anonymous No.]

>>52964245
could you get any more obvious that you're a gura anti lmao, you don't even care about mori

[Anonymous No.]

>>52958554
Ask Luxiem. They have a lot of experience with losing 90% of their cultivated audience.

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>>52962439
> outperform the stars JP
Arguably false. If you take the bottom of the bottom of stars JP yes. If you take someone like Roberu, they can't even compare at all, the guy is at the level of live bottom and that a whole different category who is almost to the level of a vivid dream for any tempus member nowodays.
> they're hardly this huge disaster
That wrong, they are a treamerous disaster. For stars they losed all the pitty point they accumulate for years, all that for actually almost nothing, it's one of the biggest lost the stars brand could have ended up after their debut, it's litteraly the worsts case scenario (and no them being ultra failure and the branch not surviving mpore than 3 month would have been actually better)
And on top of that the reputational damage for existing member are huge. EN management had already bad rep, but it became worse and worse. Ame dropped from litteral godlike existence to some burned out bitch no one care about, Leddit moderator were litteraly grabed and asked to explain themselves and convinced no one, after what they have mostly gone radio sillent because their popularity reached rock bottom. Kronii merch aren't selling anymore. It is a catastrophe, probably still one you will survive but one that you will see the damage even if you blind yourself for years. For both stars and Live EN. The only solace in that is that the main branch hololive JP seem to have avoided most of the issue.

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>>52964335
>anti
chumbies with the anti card when their lazy oshi is labeled for what she is
what's so wrong with being anti lazy? what's so wrong to admitting mori's work ethic is a cut above her peers?

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>>52963095
>Magni has a crush on Ame
>Mori has a crush on magni
kino

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>>52964240
honestly, thanks. i need my medication to continue watching this shitshow.

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>>52958554
They're fine. Not the best use of resources by any means, but at least EN management can say that they tried. I'm sure they learned something. It'll be all female gens from now on, so don't cry too much faggot. You'll get what you want.

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>>52964289
>Sana no streams
>Kronii barely streams
>Mumei Fauna Bae lol
Early council memories, newfag.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52964671
Your seething about Gura is obvious, antishart. Your deadbeat falseflagging can't get any more obvious.
>>52964907
What does that have to do with anything, schizo?

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>>52965097
You can't even keep track of the conversation anymore?
>your take is by claiming that the girls will just imitate Ina/Gura
Something you said
>Early council, in which Sana, Kronii and the others barely streamed after debut
What I said. Like this was in fucking Oct 2021 and was already in coast mode by then, why do you think she hasn't hit 1m subs yet when they have every potential to have passed that?

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>>52964723
It's pretty insane to me, all these streams and new things going on but for some reason people manage to unironically repeat "no, MY oshi could beat up YOUR oshi" for this long.

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>>52965529
The only thing you're proving is how much of a schizo you are lmao

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>>52965640
>Schizo because he proved that council coasted early
Ok.

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>>52965666
Kek it's fucking funny that you try to make out Gura as an irrelevant mascot but then she's also this overwhelming force that influences everyone around her. Just schizo things.

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>"Women need a space in streaming and content creation, too!!!! Men always earn more than women!!!"
>hololive happens
>"Men need a space in vtubing!!! Women always earn more than men!!!"

I sometimes don't fucking get people. Years ago, females were the walking joke of online entertainment, belittled and objectified, watched predominantly for being quirky, non-ladylike "girlbros". Now that they finally have something that they beat men in and defined for themselves, some fucking weirdos want to shove males into it when they have Fleshtubers raking up millions of dollars and pushing women out of the hobby.

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>>52965889
>Implying I was the same anon
I get that you're very new here and must think that 4chan is a hive-mind, but it really isn't.

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>>52964501
fatty, in Cover's eyes, they're a massive success. As for Roberu, he worked really hard to get where he is.
>disaster
Only in your fat eyes. You're just mad that they don't disband the entirety of Holostars so you can get more girls.

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>>52966072
What does that have to do with anything? You said something fucking stupid and so did one of your fellow antis. Congrats, you're both fucking retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52966245
>Still continuing
Ok.

[Anonymous No.]

Why don't people ask for mixed Holostars gens?

[Anonymous No.]

>>52958554
Me. They're made specifically for me.

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>>52964501
>Arguably false. If you take the bottom of the bottom of stars JP yes. If you take someone like Roberu, they can't even compare at all, the guy is at the level of live bottom and that a whole different category who is almost to the level of a vivid dream for any tempus member nowodays.

The meme that Roberu is in a league of his own needs to end. The top 2 tempenises get very comparable numbers to the top 2 JP homos, especially if you take away Roberu’s beggar collabs. Roberu might still be #1 overall, but if he is it’s only by a hair. He is certainly isn’t blowing anyone out. And that’s to say nothing about the fact that after Roberu and Astel, the JPstars numbers start to get real fucking dire real quick.

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>>52963119
Mori flat out said that phrase when talking about why the collab ban for Tempus what shortened.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52966580
Why are you looking at peak CCV when Tempus daisy chains raids everyday?

[Anonymous No.]

>>52960201
Gura Derangement Syndrome. She will never collab with your homos, and you will never be a woman.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52958554
for holostars sherlock

[Anonymous No.]

>>52964481
What exactly happened to luxiem?

[Anonymous No.]

>>52958554
They gained the overseas Holostars JP audience

[Anonymous No.]

>>52958554
>50% overlap with nijisanji
Tempusanji for Niji sisters

[Anonymous No.]

>>52958554
It's for the ego of holoEN management who thinks they know us better than ourselves. Thinks they can tell us what we want instead of give us what we want.

Really though they wanted to cash in on Luxiem so fucking fucking bad, you could tell because they started doing homo collabs and talking more about them right when Luxiem was hitting its stride, like they were trying to go "look! we have males too guys!" and somehow being fucking oblivious to the fact it was a new audience from China and and established giant fujo fandom in Japan driving the popularity, who are not Westerners and are not things Cover has at all (and basically cannot-ever have with china after Coco).

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>>52967010
Bettel and Vesper really dont get a ton of benefit from the raids, it’s the others homos that need to leech off of the audience that’s naturally brought in by those 2.

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>>52967384
>Uno collab viewers
>Majority are other girls before other boys.
Guess the viewers from other girls are the real homo beggars all along?

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>>52962439
>You guys realize that tempiss still outperforms the JPstars, all but maybe 2 small corpo vtubers, and a ton of NijiENs, right
I mean that's still questionable and even then I don't think it's supposed to be good. Keep in mind the fags debuted during the absolute peak of 2022 for HoloEN and got nonstop shilled by them. Watchalong on the official channel, interactions on Twitter, nonstop collabs and the Holopro crap that forced Tempiss in every HoloEN only community. The dudes started off doing pretty well but quickly fell into complete obscurity with 5/8 of them being 3views and their top performers struggling barely above that. Kaela alone overperforms every single Tempiss member.
>It would not surprise me in the least if Cover internally views them as a success
Really doubt it. The investors report absolutely fails to mention them and when asked about them Yagoo went "no comment".

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>>52968074
>The investors report absolutely fails to mention them
>The investors report that was specifically about HoloLIVE. Not Holostars or Hololive Productions
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

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>>52968004
>Uno collab viewers don't actually care about the boys
Damn

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>>52958554
I gave them a chance, they kept fucking up
Magni was the last one I dropped for collabing with kyo

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>>52968138
It's almost like the actual stars fans want to see the stars, not the stars and the girls together, and not the girls.
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

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>>52968127
It was about Cover as a whole retardchama. It actually showed some graphs for the Stars but all the fucking promo pictures were about the girls. They even had a part wanking out Kobo for her massive sub rate but none for your fags.
And as I said the investors even asked about it.

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>>52968004
>Collab beggars don't watch homos
kek

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>>52968268
Care to link the investor's comments and questions?

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>>52963273
>Vesper mentioned that they were expected to be 2view shitters
Maybe this sheds some light on why he was suspended. He knew they were expecting a shitter and felt like he had a lot of leverage from delivering 4view numbers, and then got the smackdown for it. Perhaps he demanded something and management got spooked.

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If Vesper is to be believed, expectations were WAY lower than what they got, even after the massive drop with really only Axel consistently reaching the low 3 view status they expected in the beginning.

Also, Bettel alone almost definitely justifies the existence of the branch internally. He did for gifted memberships what Coco did for superchats and that culture HAS brushed off on the other Stars even if no one can touch him. If Cover could go back and do Tempus again with the power of hindsight, I imagine they would just throw Bettel into the original batch like they wanted to and pushed Flayon to a future non-Tempus gen after holoen3.

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>Tempiss
>Tempoop
are you literally all five-year-olds?

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>>52968533
Flayon was clearly an experiment on their part testing to see if that would take off because there wasn't really one like him in the Niji lineup, so they might have gained an advantage there perhaps.

Maybe they also remembered how Karou was the most successful JP homo (iirc) yet he was a trap hence people might have also written him off as "meh he's just a niche." But Flayon isn't a trap. I think they also were or are wary about making a straight-up trap EN homo because the West wouldn't understand it's just for a fetish and not a political statement.

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>>52958554
It's over... I have had a source in the past that leaked me Hakka. That same source told me the next ''Gen'' is a single one, individual, ie, a tranny basically because they are afraid of inclusion laws. The model is a kid to basically try to hide the dude masculinity...
I'm not sad I only watch JP.

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>>52968656
Where do you think you are?

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>>52968656
I think they call themselves that, but people here do it unironically

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>>52968351
Too lazy. Shouldn't be too hard to find tho.

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>>52968656
>>52968767
Why are you being ageist, sisters? That goes against Milord’s Cause.

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>>52963664
>zeta and axel stopped because it was too good and both of them knew and they had to put a stop
imagine the timeline where they didn't stop and just had wild sex on stream mid-banter

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>>52968676
I think Flayon was an attempt at an EN Masaru, but they picked probably the worst person for the model if so. The dichotomy of a femboy incel is interesting, but can’t work if the guy you hired was friends with only women his whole life.

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>>52959177
>autistic male niggers who hate men
This thread isn't about the girls' audience

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>>52959641
>whorofags shit on everyone
>can't handle it back
lol

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>>52958554
me

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>>52971266
Nobody asked you, Kronii.

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>>52971152
You'd have a point if Tempiss didn't leech left and right from the girls and weren't shoved everywhere by the retarded management.
As it stands this is just biting the hand that feeds.

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>>52968656
There is only so much age-regressive stupidity you can be exposed to without adapting some of your own vocabulary and attitudes to it.
I thought it was closer to 7 year olds because children don't curse that much at 5, or maybe they do, I don't know.

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>>52958554
>>52958684
rent free

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>>52963095
So what you are trying to say is that Ame is a succubus?

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>>52964206
Well, that's what happens when you cater to mentally ill people. Not the first time, won't be the last time.

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>>52968351
I think the report is this one: https://cover-corp.com/ir/news/230327_5253_COVER_Materials_for_Growth_Opportunities_and_Strategies.pdf

Tempus is probably not considered to be a smashing success by Cover or else they would be bragging about their male vtubers in their report; but instead they're barley mentioned. That being said their first wave generated some hype and the overhead for vtubers is so low even Flayon probably pays for himself.

I have a long autistic essay on how Luxiem made the male vtuber market seem more mature than it actually was and how Tempus is sort of weird in how it tries to target demographics so that there's a really hard ceiling to their popularity but there's no point in writing about it here.

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>>52963273
>I think Vesper mentioned that they were expected to be 2view shitters
>>52968533
>If Vesper is to be believed, expectations were WAY lower than what they got
I doubt it. EN management likely lied to them to not stress them up.
There's no way Cover would waste time for project that they expected to get 2views. Plus also delay EN3 for it.

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>>52958554
I'm not against Tempus or the idea of male vtubers, but holo hasn't brought anyone that good to the EN side
The only ones i have liked so far are Vesper because his wow streams are entertaining and Bettel because I was a big fan of his GMOD PL for years, very funny guy
All of the others are either nerfed by shitty designs, only made to pander to fujos Altier and Flayon , or just aren't very entertaining.

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>>52973793
If every other Corpo has low male viewers then you also expect to have low numbers. However, any number you gain potentially result in a loss for another company. Hate it if you must, but undermining the management/main branch of a competitor through your own sacrificial can be really positive in the long run.

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>>52960179

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>>52958554
They're for people that hate hololive and want to turn it into niji just to make the fans angry

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>>52959975
>South Korea
>First world
roru
rumao

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>>52974543
The problem is that "If" is not applicable here.
"Every other corpo" is just Nijisanji. And at that time they had Luxiem and Noctyx at their peak.
>Hate it if you must, but undermining the management/main branch of a competitor through your own sacrificial can be really positive in the long run.
I don't think going full Kamikaze ever end up positive in the long run.

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>>52964501
>Arguably false
Objectively true. One outlier doesn't change anything. Even with comparable viewrship, the worst performing Tempus members bring in more money than StarsJP barring Gamma and sometimes Astel. May was the only time it's been close.
>For stars they losed all the pitty point they accumulate for years, all that for actually almost nothing, it's one of the biggest lost the stars brand could have ended up after their debut, it's litteraly the worsts case scenario
So they lost nothing. Pity points doesn't translate into views. Uproar's 3D debuts still got dislike bombed. Astel still got hate for appearing in Ame's chat. Miyabi still got hate after his debut. At worst, the ones taking "pity" stopped pretending to care about StarsJP. In return, they gained 8 members who bring in a lot more money.
>Ame's fall from grace
By her own doing. It's also not Tempus's fault she attracts schizos.
>Leddit sperg outs
Because they assume EN's and Tempus's auditions are handled by the same management.
>Kronii merch
Same as Ame.
Not exactly what I would call a "tremendous disaster."

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>>52958935
To be fair those are pretty good numbers if they weren't in Nijisanji. Most chuubas in the mid-tier corpos don't reach 800 CCV.

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>>52973793
>There's no way Cover would waste time for project that they expected to get 2views
So why did they debut 3 Stars gens in 1 year? Miyabi had a whole 9 viewers post debut.
>also delay EN3 for it
No new gen has ever been delayed for another gen before. Why would they start now?

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>>52958554
Fatherless simps virtue signaling they like Tempus to avoid getting the feared parasocial label from their Discord.

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>>52958554
They should've made tempus1 line up+bettel instead of adding 3 irrelevant shitter

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>>52971389
No, the point still stands. It's not biting the hand that feeds, it's showing the same hospitality that was given.

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>>52963119

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>>52975714
Own that unichud, sister!

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>>52971152
>tempissister is also a nijinigger anti
Like clockwork

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>>52976498
>So why did they debut 3 Stars gens in 1 year?
Different times. There's was much less resources put into vtuber back then.There is also the whole "Yagoo passion project" part.
>No new gen has ever been delayed for another gen before. Why would they start now?
Good question. I wish I would know why. Whatever the reason is, it's clear they did it. After all we approaching 2 years without new HoloEN gen.

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>>52958554
They have an audience and are successful, but you shitters think that unless you have 10k ccv minimum you are a failure, go suck a cock.

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I enjoyed watching Vesper and Magni.
But then Magni stopped giving a shit about streaming and only playing games with Bettel and Bettel 2 so fuck him.
And Vesper thought it was a good idea to completely change his model which hard filtered me.
So Im officially done with them all.

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>>52963095
>Magni has a crush on Ame which is pretty obvious if you hear how he talks about her,
So just like every single EN member?

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>>52977332
>There is also the whole "Yagoo passion project" part
Which is still the case.
>it's clear they did it
Not exactly. There's the 11 month gap between Myth and Council, there's also the 7 month gap of silence between the opening of EN auditions post Council and the opening of Tempus auditions. It's clear EN management is less keen on debuts in general than other branches. It also unlikely EN and Tempus share management to begin with considering the stark contrast in quality.

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>>52977296
>hypocrisy called out
>"n-nijinigger!"
lol

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>>52977413
Sister, homophobia in 2023 is NOT supporting the cause.

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>>52978014
Back to /cbdct/ or iketog you go, sister.

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>>52978410
just stop being a hypocrite, anon. simple as

[Anonymous No.]

So glad these flopniggers are irrelevant now

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>>52958935
>1:16

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>>52958684
bettel has been in top 20ish for superchats for the last couple months. As per the irl idol industry, its not how many fans you have - its how much you can milk them. Stars JP having personalized merch discontinued but still having custom ones for EN is a sign that they are making money even despite their small fanbase.

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>>52958554
Redditors, Kris the Holoprosimp, and Hololive EN Memes

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>>52958554
Well, the fans you mentioned I would guess. The ones that can't stop shitting on NijiEN males. They are for them right? Seems like you already knew the answer.

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>>52963095
They do have a fun dynamic

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>>52968533
Tempus has always jad a culture of gift subbing even before the clown.

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>>52968676
Kaoru was the most popular at the time and had a steep and swift incline. He was on the way to making holostars jp pop off. I am genuinely curious how he fucked up so bad that he got fired.

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>>52981893
He fucked up by becoming too successful. Don't delve any deeper into the secret purpose behind the Holostars project if you value your safety.

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>>52958554
women

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>>52981893
Cover's announcement stated that he terminated his own contract for "personal reasons," so he quit. As for why, who knows

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>>52982486
then why did it say terminate and not graduation silly billy

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>>52982486
Because he didn't complete his contract. It was ended prematurely, which means that it was terminated.

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>>52983703 (me)
Meant for >>52983378

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>>52983758
okay sorry :(

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>>52958821
yeah
you're pretty fucking retarded if you think 500 viewers is considered bad for a male vtuber.

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>>52963095
>Axel on the other hand, that's the true ship. >Whenever Ame and Axel are on stream they end up together, making a comedy duo and bantering.
blasphemy, zeta and axel make way better banter and it's the toxic kino

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>>52984537
Why aren’t you supporting da bois more?

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>>52984656
>nodoka san are you watching this your dog is fucking retarded
i laugh every time

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>>52979221
>irrelevant
this board doesn't make them irrelevant

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>>52984778
outed yourself as a fucking redditor on fucking light mode

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>>52985263
Aren’t the majority of you homobeggars Redditors and twitter users?

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>>52985263
Forgive him, it's the same itroon that's been spamming the same screenshots for months. I see he finally found a new one to spam.

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>>52963760
>surrogate mother vtuber
>surrogate father vtuber
>draws art of them being proud of him
I don't think that guy had a very good home life...

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>>52958554
>Fails to gain the Hololive audience who only want cute girls
Why would fans who want to watch cute girls watch them?
>Fails to gain the Nijisanji audience because the fans can't stop shitting on NijiEN males
Okay. Homofans are based.
>Who is Tempus for, exactly?
For the women who've been watching StarsJP but can't understand them. Seemed to have grabbed other women too by the looks of it.

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>>52959292
They were six. I don't know whose idea was it to debut them as two gens and four people. It would've been fine that way and Bettel would've been the very thing Luxiem feared.

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>>52985817
Sister, please do not resort to using transphobic terms. Us stars fans support the cause in here.

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>>52984778
This is honestly the most embarrasing in this thread

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>>52987560
>Stars fans
If you're gonna falseflag. Use the right name sister.

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>>52968815
I don't know about Tempoop. But Magni has stolen Tempiss and has been giving his degenerate fanbase a golden shower everytime he comes back.

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>>52984778
>reddit
Not the win you think it is chief

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>>52960179
My schizo theory is that Fauna was the goth girl who gave Vesper KOTOR 1 but now that they're working in the same company they don't recognize each because it's been a decade and they've moved past their high school phase.

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>>52987656
My bad, I keep getting the term mixed up with kindred (since I used to be one)

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>>52988176
Nice outing yourself femicorn. Continue cutting yourself for Cocks Acoomer or Hacks or whatever you have in your Twitter screencap folder

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>>52963095
>ame thinks of him as a little brother
it seems like ame doesn't think of him at all considering how little she associates with him

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>>52977413
It's not a matter of not having 10K, it's a matter of not even having 1K, and a matter of some getting around 250. It's a matter of starting at 40K and then now the only potential exist of the 3view territory seem to be none other than the 2view territory. We are talking about this level of failure.

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>>52988974
people around the world have jobs you know, unless you're a neet

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>>52963095
I wouldn't say that Ame is not interested in Magni. If you do your reps, he's a chubby korean twink which is exactly Ame's type.
Axel and Ame do have more chemistry but i think it's down to how down bad he is for every female, he also has no filter.

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>>52963469
this is fake, mori is always drunk

[Anonymous No.]

Wow this is one of those threads full of deranged homosexuals or women.

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>>52989971
There may be lesbians in here yes.

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>>52958554
>Failed to get the Nijisanji audience
Bettel was the one who lured in a small portion of disgruntled nijisisters. Regardless, it's probably for the best that they mostly stuck to Nijisanji. Niji fujos and stars fujos wouldn't get along.

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>>52990057
Lesbians aren't real, its just that some get tricked into believing women are more emotional thus more compatible with them and never met the guy or didn't take noticed of a guy that could provide them that. I actually feel sad for lesbians.

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>>52989971
both

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>>52990542
There are literally women that turn into lesbians because of a bad dating history with men, anon.

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>>52964335
There's nothing to anti dumbass, she's not an active participant. She's not worth a quarter of the brain space she takes up in this boards mind

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>>52959275
I didnt know all it took to get into hololive was to be a nice person. I guess the next wave will be the first thousand gen wave

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>>52984537
NTA but for the biggest vtuber company in the world yes.

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>>52958554
>>Fails to gain the Nijisanji audience because the fans can't stop shitting on NijiEN males
Nobody shits on NijiEN males than NijiEN fans.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52958554
oh nyo

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>>52958554
>Who is Tempus for, exactly?
faggots

[Anonymous No.]

>>52958554
Tempus exists solely for (You) to seethe.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52958554
They exist only for Yagoo.

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>>52968218
Magni collabed with kyo? It's like he's speedrunning his graduation. Grim.

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>>52975772
>To be fair those are pretty good numbers
I hate this retarded take
>200 is better than indies
>100 is better than indies
>20, well at least they have fans.
This is starjp tier. Eventhough it not "bad", it just gonna get worst