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542026 No.542026 [Reply] [Original]

>tfw want to apply.
>tfw gender is irrelevant but based on previous application, there's not a single male applicant revealed for gen 1.
How can I be sure that this isn't an application for a female voice?

>> No.542079

>>542026
mommy market is to small, but everyone likes a funny anime girl

>> No.542118

>>542026
They may just sit on male applications and contact them in the future. Might as well, like it's probably less than a few hours of your time depending on if you prepare a script and do multiple takes

>> No.542157

>>542118
Still, I wouldn't want to spend time and effort if they are just looking for female voices.

>> No.542185

>>542026
A have a friend who submitted 3 links to his youtube content and a twitch vod, all 3 got viewed.
If they were hard filtering men only one or none of them would've been clicked.

>> No.542195

>>542026
just do it regardless, even in the worst case scenario where they don't look at your app it's likely that you'll learn something about yourself and your motives by thinking about how to answer the questions
you might want to upload your video on another youtube account and then log out so that you aren't tempted to constantly check if it's been viewed

>> No.542214

>>542185
I have a feeling they're bookmarking any decent male submissions to look out for if they decide to do HolostarsEN

>> No.542230

>>542214
Possible, but I think they're at least open to the idea of having this gen be mixed.

>> No.542296

>>542026
if you wanted to be a male vtuber wait for Nijisanji instead

>> No.542957

They probably need to make it clearer.

>> No.543066

>>542026
I am YAGOO pls andastahn we need 3 girl 2 man
only sexy man please no fatties
big sekshi american man
tall skinny English man
Very nice
do not screenshot me i will deni

>> No.543076

>>542296
sure if you're planning to be irrelevant

>> No.543121

Make sure you wear some panties on your head guys. I heard from an inside source it's an automatic in.

>> No.543196

It's pretty weird that they didn't even say you have to sound like a girl. Obviously there won't be any male characters in Hololive though, if they were willing to do that then Holostars wouldn't exist.

>> No.543199

>>542026
99% chance the "gender irrelevant" language is just there for PR and/or legal reasons and they're not looking for anyone with a penis or what used to be a penis, BUT it might still be worth sending an application in if you're naïve enough to think holostarsEN will be a thing.

>> No.543306

>>542157
>wouldn't want to spend time and effort
It's not like you actually have a chance

>> No.543418

>>543306
kek

>> No.543461

>>542230
>mixed
Never gonna happen

>> No.544847

>>542230
pfft, this isn't nijisanji

>> No.544923

>>542026
You will never be a real womandial 8

>> No.544924

>>542026
They describe it as "all female" they likely only want biological females that sound female.

>> No.544942

>>543066
based.

>> No.545031

>>542026
girls make more money for less, dumbass. if you're a guy you need to have a really good gimmick, be genuinely entertaining, and offer something that some fucking zoomer won't get watching ninja or some shit.

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>>543199
>or what used to be a penis
did someone say

>> No.545049

At least with the first one they did explicitly clarify the auditions were for Hololive AND Holostars. I'm sure they wanted to test the waters with only 5 with the first run, but I'd be very surprised if they weren't at least writing down names for a Holostars EN at this point, and I'm reasonably sure they're going to announce gen 1 of Stars EN it when they do gen 2.
This would also be the time to do it too, since letting Nijisanji just go without competition indefinitely for male big name ENVtubers doesn't really make sense, and the JP Stars all have like >50% foreign fanbases already.
Point is, you've got nothing to lose by applying and there's a good chance you might actually get it, so why not. Worst case nothing happens, and that's frankly the most likely scenario even if they ARE doing stars anyway.

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>>545037
For fuck's sake anon

>> No.545104

>>545049
holostars EN is a fucking longshot. Male streamers don't attract the kind of audience that Cover wants to cater to

>> No.545105

>>545031
>watching ninja or some shit
what about watching ninja the vtuber? You need someone to do what he's doing but as vtuber (unless ninja decides to jump on the trend and become a vtuber himself).

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545126

>>545037
Anon....

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545131

>>545037
Kudos, I guess. Been a long, long time since I've blindly clicked on a spoiler pic on 4chan without being braced for it to be something shocking.
Now excuse me while I go vomit.

>> No.545140

>>545105
The thing is that "attractive anime person doing the things you're into" kind of caters mostly to lonely, straight weebs. They tend to prefer girls.

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>>545131
First time? Been like this for me since 2008

>> No.545188

there's an untapped global market for male idols seeing how popular kpop boy bands got

>> No.545233

>>545188
spoken like a white twenty something incel with no fucking idea

>> No.545283

>>545233
0/3 better luck next time anon

>> No.545319

>>545233
there is a reason why your precious suichan likes enstars so much lol

>> No.545385

>>545104
Given that
1. There's already a proven English market (in both the HoloEN fanbase and the large StarsJP English fanbase).
2. Their biggest competitor is definitely going to have some males.
3. The pool of English speaking male indies to pull from has NEVER been bigger
and
4. The operating cost of a vtuber is low enough that they'd have to have the entire generation quit within a month or 2 to not turn a profit.
From a business perspective they'd have to be stupid to not at least put out a 3 person generation soon.
Like, I won't claim they'd be AS big as HoloMyth and whatever they're calling the next gen, but you'd have to be at least a little retarded (which admittedly, Japanese companies are) not to see a few male streamers with the Hololive brand attached as some free money just waiting to be claimed.

>> No.545411

>>545385
I don't think we'll see anything like that until at least gen 3 of EN.

>> No.545467

Face it, 99% of the vtuber audience is male, and unless you have a Kano-tier voice, none of them want to hear your man voice

>> No.545491

>>545385
Not to mention they already have some incredibly talented hopefuls like Holo Bass and Walfie (both of whom have been dipping their toes into streaming recently).

Fingers crossed they actually at least make an attempt.

>> No.545509

Cover will never put a tranny in hololive. NOBODY (maybe except EN gen 1) would collab with a tranny.

If anything, the antis and harrassment would be substantial and make the tranny commit sudoku, just like 47% of you lot.

>> No.545521

>>545411
That's reasonable enough. It'd also make sense to say, put gen 2 out and then start holostars EN a month or so later, so as to not have too many at once.

>> No.545567

>>545509
No one mentioned trannies. Is there a reason they're on your mind so much, Anon? Does the idea of someone just deciding to transition get your attention so much, say, because you wish you were in a position to do it? Something like that?

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>>545467
Or got a schtick like Engineer Gaming.

>> No.545989

>>545567
>No one mentioned trannies
It's probably for the best that you didn't check the archives

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546088

>>545567
Did you just come here from reddit? Where were you two days ago when this announcement just came out?

>> No.546132

>>542118
That's more or less how Holostars became a thing in the first place.

>> No.546180

>>546088
I meant no one mentioned them HERE right now
but even then
>>545989
I forgot about that and will go back to pretending I didn't see in the first place.

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>>546088
Where were YOU a year ago when this EXACT SAME FUCKING SHIT happened for EN1?

>> No.546316

>>545567
meds

>> No.546376

Wild aimless applicant speculation incoming
>Veibae
>Bunny_gif
>Momo
>Kana
>CdawgVA
>Sykkuno
>Lilypichu
>Milkyqueen

Milkyqueen applied for the vsinger role

>> No.546414

>>542026
Anon, it IS an application for a female voice. When they say gender irrelevant they mean your real life gender doesn't matter, but the character you would play if you are hired is female, and you need to be able to convincingly act that.

In reality, they're just saying this so they don't get brigaded by seething trannies on twitter trying to pull some #CancelHololive bullshit. They aren't going to hire anyone who isn't female.

>>542118
When they are interested in males they'll put out an audition call for Holostars. This is an audition for Hololive, meaning if the video you send them as a sample isn't a female character they're just going to immediately throw it out.

>>542230
You're retarded, it says right in the audition call ALL-FEMALE GROUP.

>> No.546441

>>546414
No it says that it is an all female group.
Please andastand tenses.

>> No.546446

>>542026
Why would you want to be sure of that when they literally tell you you have to have a female voice? Like you can have a dick, they don't care about that, but you gotta portray the character, and the character is female.

>> No.546461

>>546414
When they are interested in males they'll put out an audition call for Holostars. This is an audition for Hololive, meaning if the video you send them as a sample isn't a female character they're just going to immediately throw it out.
Source: your ass

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546519

>B....baka.... I don't want to apply anyway!! Ignore the post from yesterday, I'm a proud indie pre-debut vtweeter.... b....baka I'm free to do what I want! By the way please andastand I have a patreon/kofi set up for donations but no debut date yet thank you

>> No.546782

>>546461
>Source: your ass
If you can't even read the instructions you're never going to make it. I know from professional hiring managers in the entertainment industry, the very first thing they look for when narrowing down huge amounts of submissions is they go through, find all the ones that couldn't even stick to the instructions for the prompt, and toss them without even reading further.

>> No.546822

>>546782
>You can't read
>- Gender irrelevant
>hololive English is an all-female VTuber group aimed mainly at the global market.

These are conflicting statements, so your position is just as valid as mine. Completely talking out of your ass.

>> No.546871

>>546822
They're not conflicting at all. The first one refers to the actor's real life gender, the second part refers to the characters. All-female vtubers. If you put in a video submission playing a non-female character they will mark you down as "couldn't follow instructions" and toss it in the trash immediately. This is hiring practice 101 for sifting through large volumes of submissions.

>> No.547048

>>546871
Once again
>Source: your ass

Here comes some source my ass material that's just as (in)valid
>Mori was very specific in her language when discussing it, said "lots of new people" "lots of new friends" even said "The new girls... erh, the new group"
>Post advertising the role says "gender irrelevant", but the application form specifically asks for it, why would they bother to include this? Either it's a hardfilter for men and they don't want to fight a discrimination suit or it's because there's 2 pools for applicants.
>Japanese post uses a phrase that means "All Genders are welcome"

I agree with you, I don't think they will hire men either, but you're still talking out of your ass.

>> No.547121

>>547048
Or, and maybe consider this seeing as how it's literally on the audition form, they don't give a shit about what you have between your legs as long as you can convincingly play a female character. They wont hire men because there are not very many men that can convincingly and long form sound like a girl, and even fewer that are interested in being vtubers, not because they care about them being men or plan on putting them in a different role than they auditioned for.

>> No.547221

>>547121
But then why ask, bro? That's the sticking point. If they don't care, but they need female sounding voices why even put the box?

>Man 1 can convincing imitate a female voice, ticks box for male and gets hardfiltered
>Transwoman 1 cannot convincing imitate a female voice, ticks box for female and doesn't get hardfiltered by the question

If what you're saying is correct, the question is completely redundant, they would've just said "We're looking for people to play 5 female characters" and then filtered anyone who sounded male.

>> No.547242

>>547048
The entertainment industry is allowed to discriminate on gender. There’s no reason for them to put it there unless they truly want to message that it’s fine if you’re a guy putting on a female voice

>> No.547300

>>547242
So then why would they bother? I think they're at least open to the idea of hiring a male member for the english branch.

>> No.547328

>>547221
Because it hardfilters people who put "other," and almost every audition form prefab or otherwise includes a gender field even if the role is straight up genderblind.

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>>547300
Because despite on what anons on here project to the rest of the world, most people do not >truly hate trannies, they just don't care that much. The number of people who would "boycott hololive" or become a devoted anti are even smaller. Boycotts are a fucking meme. Hololive likely doesn't care, and would be open to hiring a tranny or a guy who can do a good female voice for their main branch
>but if that were true then why haven't they have hired a tranny or man by now
Because none have met the strict qualifications. It is not enough to have a 'decent' female voice. You must have a great one. You must have a proven history of streaming or otherwise entertaining content creation. You must have a wide variety of talents. You must not sperg out politically on social media. This filters a vast amount of applicants alone.
Now consider that in America, trannies make up like 0.5% of the population; that's an incredibly small number of people. How many of those are talented enough to make the cut in hololive? How many of those are willing to risk their already stable careers for something that's not guaranteed to last? How many of those are actually smart enough not to go on meaningless political rants online? This leaves you with virtually none. As for men who are comfortable in their sex, the ones who can meet the qualifications would not give up a stable career for that temporary hololive money.
>but what about the antis
They kept Coco and zhangs are far more devoted than any anti in america or japan could ever hope to be. Don't even argue me on this, because you know I'm right. Nothing exceeds the autism of chinese ultranationalists. Nothing.

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There is literally no reason not to send an application no matter who you are, as long as you don't shitpost on the form. The worst case is nothing happens, which will still occur to the hundreds of people who do pass the imaginary boundaries you guys are setting up. If they put male on the form and say nothing about the voice like with the singer application, you can bet your ass I'm taking my shot. Good time to learn video editing anyhow.

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>>546414
>>546461
pic related was from gen 1 auditions. the male option is intended for Holostar applicants although that obviously doesn't mean they'll actually follow through with it (they didn't for any that applied at the time of gen 1). it doesn't hurt them to at least glance at whatever applications they'd get

>> No.551536

I introduced my character idea to cover, but never really showed them a design. Would it kill my chances to do a little indie streaming with the character design to show them more of its potential?

>> No.551619

>>551536
Yes, actually. There's a reason you're supposed to private your application.

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>>542026
Can you niggers stop with this faggotry? Fucking holostars is dead why do you expect fucking holostars EN? Females don't fucking want some ugly ass eugene behind a faggot uwu cat boy shit. Fuck off already this is for FEMALES.

>> No.551767

>>546822
There are men who can give birth so it's not impossible that person whose legal gender is male could play female character

>> No.551806

>>551767
Back to /tttt/ with you.

>> No.551812

>>551727
1) holostars got new costumes recently so they're clearly alright spending money on them
2) i've had sex before

>> No.552198

Is this dude Hololive?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aPTkX3Tlhg

>> No.552264

>>552198
Looks like he is
https://en.hololive.tv/portfolio/items/kanade-izuru

>> No.552589

>>546414
I don't really think it has anything to do with the western market specifically. It is already commonplace across the industry to say that gender doesn't matter on these kinds of things. Not for some specifically "woke" purposes more it's not really abnormal for males to play females and females to play males where the person voicing it fits the character. Like you know how its not uncommon for girls to voice young boys in anime or whatever?

>> No.552665

>>546376
>bunch of nobodies
>sykkuno
>connor
>lilly
>Mori's pick

Why though?

>> No.552707

>>546519
>pre debut
>censoring the word lolicon beacuse she's too scared to get called out for false pedophilia accusations
>I w-wasn-n't gonn-n-na app-ply anyway
I'd love nothing more than to hunt and kill this fucking tranny.

>> No.552892

>>542026
I will be applying as a huge baritone male using the worst available voice changer and my model will be that of a huge burly man in frilly crossdress wearing an animu grill mask.

>> No.553069

>>551727
>>551812
The appeal of Holostars is so niche at this point. I wouldn't be surprised if Clover makes new branch that could feature male vtubers that focus more on gaming without focusing on singing or idol culture. They would could name it something stupid too like "HoloBoys".

>> No.553343

>>546376
>>552665
>expecting already established channels to apply
give me one good reason why they would do that when they're already making just as much, if not more, money than they would under cover without the restrictions and obligations?

>> No.553394

>>553069
hololads

>> No.553739

Holostars is a fucking joke compared to Hololive. The only CHAD jap vtubers come from Nijisanji, like Kuzuha, Kanae, etc. Holostars EN would be a massive failure, we already have male entertainers who don't need to hide their troll faces, like Charlie.

>> No.553906

>>553343
Probably for the same reason HER applied even though she already had a million subs. I don't actually know what that reason was though.

>> No.553990

>>546414
>In reality, they're just saying this so they don't get brigaded by seething trannies on twitter trying to pull some #CancelHololive bullshit. They aren't going to hire anyone who isn't female.
Japan doesn't care about Twitter trannies, stop letting us live rent free in your head. More likely it's due to Japan's cultural heritage of male actors playing female characters in kubuki theater. They don't really care who's behind the mask, only that they are convincing in whatever role they're hired to play.

>> No.554003

>>553906
>Probably for the same reason HER applied even though she already had a million subs
she didn't. she had around maybe 800K when she applied and given her inconsistent uploading and streaming to a small audience, I doubt she ever made that much money as HER. Sykkuno, Conner, and Lillypichu are all living comfortably off their current careers.

>> No.554028

>>553990
hololive is an idol group, idol culture is different dude.

>> No.554059

>>546414
Anon stop trying to teach social skills to this aspergers support group they won't listen

>> No.554158

>>542026
just do it anyway you literally lose nothing

>> No.554592
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Remember, if you are a male and have the ability to be entertaining on stream and/or make interesting video content, you can already succeed as a normal streamer/youtuber and do not have to surrender your creative freedom or part of your earnings to Cover (who don't provide value proportional to their revenue split). You will start from nothing but the ceiling is much higher. The installed viewer-base for Hololive is NOT worth it, especially considering it is already proven that Holostars only get a fraction of those viewers. Even among V-tubers agencies, men are much more successful at Nijisanji, on top of having a more favorable contract and no need for game permissions.

Men do not need a virtual avatar because your viewers absolutely don't care what you look like if you're male as long as you're entertaining (and don't have an extremely annoying voice).

Women however aren't even given a chance if they are not attractive and therefore need the crutch of an avatar. Don't blindly chase a fad if you actually have talent only to get screwed out of your own success.

>> No.554661

why are there so many trannies wanting to apply?

>> No.554748

>>554661
people who are trying to escape their hopeless lives and will eventually realize they will be rejected for their unstable personalities

>>554592
yeah but I can spam emojis to gura on discord if I make it in

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reminder to all applicants that the last time you lost against
>dorky workaholic wigger
>zetsubou ex idol with daddy issues and chronic pain
>literal nobody trailer trash twitch streamer
>shut-in gacha addict artist
>autistic womanchild memequeen

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>>555040
Ina, Gura and Calli are fine desu. Now Ame is one thing. How could they pick a nobody mutt twitch whore? But whatever she kinda does the funny sometimes... now Kiara... I'm 100% convinced she sucked Yagoo's 1-inch to get in.

>> No.555262

>>555176
>How could they pick a nobody mutt twitch whore?
Everyone was just worse.
There's some auditions floating around that would make Amelia look like a patron saint of pure talent compared to those you wouldn't call nobodies

>> No.555303

>>555040
No shame in losing to Ina, she's a professional artist, and Gura had an immensely successful youtube channel.

Losing to Kiara has to sting for a lot of those applicants who probably assumed she got in just because she could speak Japanese.

>> No.556395

>>555303
why did they hire a professional autist

>> No.556677

>>555176
>>555262
You guys have no taste. Ame is really nice.

>> No.556780

>>542026
are you highly skilled? like an ex-pro fps player or a Minecraft autist
>>554592
what do you mean by favorable contract and game permission you mean unmonetized game permission that everyone's allowed to stream?

>> No.556807

>>545385
There isn't a proven English market for men. Quite the opposite. People who want males are a vocal minority, as evident from the actual numbers: HolostarsJP don't actually bring in that significant of an English audience, most of them just don't get great numbers in the first place and only a percentage of that audience is English. There's also significant evidence that the rest of the Western vtuber market has no interest in men.

The biggest competitor isn't definitely going to have some males. It's actually very likely they'll debut zero. If you're following the English vtuber scene, you'd know that Nijisanji is by all appearances not even looking at male applications at all. Despite the fact that unlike holostars they do bring in a significant amount of viewership to their JP male streams, all signs point towards them deeming the market here non-viable for men.

I don't got anything to say about point 3 but in regards to 4, operation costs are low but a woman and a man cost as much to produce so there's an opportunity cost to not just debuting another woman.

HolostarsEN right now is actually a completely irrational gamble.

>> No.556880

>>556780
I assume he is talking about it being more common comparatively for them to stream games they cant monetize with monetization off rather than just avoiding those games for the most part. Because if you plain aren't allowed to stream a game entirely they have to not do that just like everyone else.

>> No.556932

>>556807
I don't think I have ever seen an English speaking male vtuber that I would hire to work at my company if I were Nijisanji. I'd be more surprised if they didn't though, they have guys in every single other region they have opened up in, China, Korea, ID, India, Japan all of them have guys, every branch.

>> No.557023

>>553990
>us
Go back, you will never be a woman, etc

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>>556677
checked and based
the only correct opinion

>> No.557096

>>556807
>HolostarsJP don't actually bring in that significant of an English audience
Yeah, because they don't speak fucking english you moron. With the girls the language barrier matters less because it's just like "wow cute noises, fuckable avatar, I can enjoy this" but with the males you want to be able to actually understand what they're saying or you get filtered.

HolostarsEN will be bigger than HolostarsJP because there are more english speakers in the world.

>> No.557110

>>555040
Yet they cooperate all the time, never get into problems (what you read in this site is always blown out of proportion) and have stayed neutral to any political/controversial topic. I think Cover's hiring philosophy depends more on how reliable you are more than the talent shown. After all every girl started out weak (Amelia is a prime example) but you can always get better. It's not like any of them have a PhD in entertainment.

>> No.557127

What should I include in my audition? I'm going to buy a blue yeti RIGHT NOW. (Inb4 ywnbaw, I am a man and perfectly content that way).

>> No.557160

>>557127
You're wasting your time dude, wait until they specifically ask for holostars auditions.

>> No.557190

>>556780
>what do you mean by favorable contract and game permission you mean unmonetized game permission that everyone's allowed to stream?

Nijis can generally stream whatever games they want because they are not technically employees of Ichikara the way Holos are employees of Cover. As for the contract, Nijis allegedly have a better revenue split for SCs and their requirements are a lot looser. For instance they don't have the "at least 3 streams a week" clause Holos do, they're also not contractually obligated to participate in Nijisanji's equivalent to Holofes.

>> No.557221

>>557190
>Nijis can generally stream whatever games they want because they are not technically employees of Ichikara the way Holos are employees of Cover.
I don't think that's correct. They can stream whatever games they want because Ichikara gets them permissions because they are owned by Sony.

>> No.557255

>>557190
>Nijis can generally stream whatever games they want because they are not technically employees of Ichikara the way Holos are employees of Cover.
No they can't. Shiina just recently had to stop her play through of an older Dragon Quest game because Square Enix changed the rules to say that only individuals were allowed to stream it and not those at a company.

>> No.557359

>>557160
I don't want to risk them announcing a non-tranny male vtuber for the 2nd gen without having had the satisfaction of "shooting my shot" as the kids say.

>> No.557408

i wonder how much of a nobody you can be and get picked up.
ive made content on/off, streamed atleast once every year, have videos with 300+ views and have a soundcloud with a few thosand listens, but no actual folliowing if my own and none of these are exactly consistent.

>> No.557429

>>557221
That doesn't seem right either to be honest. Take a look how many Nijisanji members played the new Spiderman game, bear in mind they have a regular club for simultaneous watching Marvel movies, and nobody played the game. The only plausible explanation I can think of is they didn't have permission from Sony of all people.

>> No.558388

>>557429
Like Cover, Ichikara also announces if they have a deal/partnership/blanket permission from a company.
https://twitter.com/Ichikara_Inc/status/1290120497074597888
https://www.ichikara.co.jp/news/1121/
Like you said Sony does game by game permission. Hell, there's highly likely that the talent paid a fee to stream them.

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>>552707
>i want to kill someone because i am mad online
internet warriors like you are the funniest shit. the twittertard might be stupid but you're truly deranged. you will not kill shit, you will rage and provide endless entertainment for other people online like the jester you are

>> No.561958

>>554748
The irony

>> No.562060

What the fuck is a "pre-debut vtuber" and how are they a thing? How/why can you go public before producing content?

>> No.562205

>>554592
>Men do not need a virtual avatar
How can I do this without one?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDb7PGB5kc4

>> No.562236

>>562060
>How/why can you go public before producing content?
On youtube? You can't. These are twitter celebrities.

>> No.562322

>>554592
Basically nearly all confirmed holo idols allegedly look pretty good, so I'm not sure about this whole "Hololive is a safe haven for uglies" narrative. And roleplaying out a shtick with a virtual avatar sounds valuable for a guy. Personally I can't stand "3D dude talks into a webcam" content, so at least I'm a customer that wouldn't be filtered by an L2D avatar.

>> No.565925

>>545567
Where did this retarded idea that not liking trannies means you wanna be a tranny or secretly like trannies, come from. What kind of stupid cope is that, do you think the whole world works on tsundere anime logic?

>> No.566153

>>562060
You pay 50-100 bucks to commission a static png from a chuuba artist (getting a fully-rigged L2D model is way too expensive), then make a twitter account using that art as an avatar. Proceed to post a bunch of shit about how you're going to debut soon™, and generally stir up shit in the horrible cesspool that is the "western vtuber" community and try to create enough drama that you get attention.
In 1 out of every 10 or so vtweeters' cases, build enough antipathy towards yourself that you finally pony up the funds for a minimally-viable, bottom-tier L2D and finally debut, months later, as a boring anime e-thot on your platform of choice (99% of the time Twitch), or in easy mode runs commission a very high-quality model and debut as a boring anime e-thot on your platform of choice.

>> No.566809

>>553990
it does seem like japan doesn't really care all that much as far as vtubers go, they have male crossdresser characters, androgynous no defined gender characters, male characters that look like girls, females playing male characters, males playing female characters with and without voice changers, males just using female avatars without even trying to sound like a female character, even females playing males trying to look like females and I don't really see anyone treating it as if it's abnormal or being upset

>> No.567118

Why are guys bothering to apply anyways? You do realize that half the people on earth on women, the girls have enough competition as is.

>> No.571453

>>554592
What if I want to play a character though? Sure, I could be a png/slideshow "animation" youtuber, but this is a bit more attractive to me (personally).

>> No.571528

>>542026
Better try than not.

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>>542026
>Other
Fuck

>> No.576103

>>562060
>why can you go public before producing content?
So your fucking monetized or partnered before your official debut

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