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5626661 No.5626661 [Reply] [Original]

ITT prove you aren't a holobrony trend hopper and name a vtuber you watched before hololive got popular.

Kaguya Luna was my oshi. It's a shame she retired. Yes, "retired", not "graduated" you fucking holobrony idolshitters.

>> No.5626809

hebiko...

>> No.5626863

Eilene

>> No.5626939
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5626939

>>5626661

>> No.5626990

>>5626661
I would, but she's so small that if I'd legitimately risk self dox if I did.

>> No.5626992

>>5626661
Kizuna Ai
And take your meds OP

>> No.5627020

>>5626661
I did enjoy Baacharu back before the idol stuff started and you could have a guy interacting with female VTubers without goslings going full retard

>> No.5627024

Nebase Kokoro, an actual company sponsor VTuber for a pharmacy. I found her short clips fun. Kinda stopped watching her after she started doing full streams.

>> No.5627061

>>5626939
Old hag cunny

>> No.5627080

she has 1700k+ subs in another account
So...

>> No.5627116
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5627116

The EOP bridge.

>> No.5627157

Watched Kizuna Ai back then. A few days removed from her post date so there would be fansubs available. It got kinda boring after a while and I was getting more busy so I stopped watching.

Years later. Shark happened.

>> No.5627158

>>5626661
>we will never get more lewd art of kaguya Luna getting choked during sex
It hurts bros, that was the best part about the voice memes

>> No.5627269

>>5626661
Her real account dwarfs her vtuber career. She's doing quite well.

>> No.5627326

>>5626661
Kizuna Ai is still my oshi.

>> No.5627327

>>5626661
>Kaguya Luna
imagine bragging about watching someone with more subs then most hololivers

>> No.5627335

Nojaoji

>> No.5627368

Moruru

>> No.5627373

I did not watch shitty vtubers that were not good enough to capture widespread attention with anything but their novelty. I started watching when the actual good vtubers started popping up with Hololive, then moved on to Nijisanji when I realised that it's even better.

>> No.5627420

>>5627373
you say this whilst there is a vtuber who reached even more widespread attention then anything Hololive has done

>> No.5627436

Used to watch .Live Idol-bu before the Tama incident. And a little bit of Mirai Akari.

Chill a bit and don’t shit about Hololive pls OP

>> No.5627442

>>5627420
Who, Sodapoppin?
If you mean Kizuna, that's just new toy syndrome.

>> No.5627455

>>5627368
I miss my sleepy demon streams.

HimeHina used to do more content than they do now, but they're still around.

>> No.5627477

>>5627442
Kizuna is new toy syndrome when she is older than Hololive?
wouldn't Hololive be the shiny new toy that is getting undeserved attention?

>> No.5627484

>>5627420
You're off your meds again and imagining things.

>> No.5627487

>>5626661
Luna has abandoned you anon, it is time to move on

>> No.5627488

>>5627477
She was the first one so she got more subs because people wanted to try something new, and then never stuck around.

>> No.5627534

Akkun
Kurumi
Ken
Fuji Aoi
Mirai Akari
Moemi/Yomemi
The three Asano sisters
First wave Nijisanji

>>5627158
I still fap to the gifs of her getting titfucked

>> No.5627586

>>5626661
Nyonners though I stopped when I realised she had a boyfriend

>> No.5627596
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5627596

>>5626939
pink cat love

>> No.5627624

Moscow Mule

>> No.5627628

>>5626661
>Calling other people trend hoppers while naming Luna as your oshi
Lol Lmao might as well say Kizuna or Akari too

>> No.5627630

>>5627455
I'm just happy to be able to watch her again, also I love these 2 new outfits

>> No.5627650

>>5627586
cringe
if you wouldn't watch your oshi get fucked live on air then you aren't a true fan

>> No.5627680
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5627680

I still miss her bros

>> No.5627685

>>5627650
I would but she didn't :(

>> No.5627709

I watched Kizuna Ai play SUPERHOT in 2017 and then I got constantly earraped by Siro's old video intro and have been around for everything afterwards since.

>> No.5627723

>>5626661
I remember vigorously fapping to Kaguya Luna's 10 fps animation.

>> No.5627755
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5627755

>>5626661
this cutie

>> No.5627762

ironmouse, nyanners and veibae were amongst the first english ones.
Ai and Luna were the japanese ones i watched.

>> No.5627774

>>5627755
Is the knee bandage canon? Whore.

>> No.5627794

>>5626661
You're oshi is a whore and gets in the way of my pixiv searches for kaguya-sama content.

>> No.5627840

>>5627723
kek, i remember fapping to her armpits

>> No.5627875

>>5627840
Akari is hotter

>> No.5627935

>>5626661
>ctrl-F Siro
>only 1 result
Not enough dolphinbros in this thread.

>> No.5627992
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5627992

>>5626661
this indog before she was cringe

>> No.5628082

I usedto watch Azulim, she rebranded to fit the streamer market but she''s really not well suited for it.

>> No.5628119

>>5626661
>Kaguya Luna was my oshi.
Thats all the proof you have dramashitter

>> No.5628153

>>5628082
After watching Ai and vtuber dropping off my radar for a long while I at some point stumbled over Ange Katrina.
Now I mostly watch Holos though. Some Nijis have a place in my heart because they made me "rediscover" the medium

>> No.5628158
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5628158

I been watching vtubers since Eliens channel was doing Ebola-chan content, before Kizuna or Luna was even a thing. Checkmate OP.

>> No.5628190

That one with the same VA as akarin

>> No.5628189

>>5628082
>>5628153
didn't mean to reply to you, ignore that

>> No.5628239

>>5626661
I watched Pinky Pop Hepburn when she started out. None of the others like Kuzuba Ai or Kaguya Luna had ever clicked for me like she did. I really liked her, she was a lot of fun. But it always took forever for her videos to get any kind of translation, and at some point I just kinda stopped watching her, and YouTube in general for a while. I got busy with other stuff.

Fast forward to HoloEN blowing up and leaking into every other fandom, I decide to check out what all the fuss was about. Get sucked into the Holo hole, and shortly after I remember her and wonder, “hey I wonder what Pinky Pop’s up to?”

Uploads were sparse, then I finally see a new post show up in my feed from her one day, and… it’s her retirement. Even though I hadn’t watched her for a long time, it made me really sad.

>> No.5628245

>>5628189
All good based NTR sympathiser.

>> No.5628249

Ebola chan was my first waifu

>> No.5628307

Kaguya Luna daYOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>> No.5628340

>>5628249
I heard she prefers BBC, sorry anon

>> No.5628361

>>5627992
What made her cringe?

>> No.5628434
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5628434

i loved this cute kouhai, but keep in mind vtubing was in its infancy at that time

>> No.5628458

I don't feel the need to prove myself because I'm not self conscious about my tastes. Hololive introduced me to vtubers and I'm happy to admit that.

>> No.5628483

I just started using this board because of Sodapoppin.

>> No.5628496

>>5628434
I keep thinking about how she did the dance entry for prichan's ed. I don't think they ever picked her tho.

>> No.5628522

>>5626661
Eilene in 2014

>> No.5628530
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>>5626661
i was a regular antama watcher back when they were doing weekly streams in 2017.

>> No.5628556

>>5626661
Oh, finally a man of culture.

>> No.5628592

I hate the Gamebu management for letting it fall apart

>> No.5628637

Natsumi Moe. Haven't watched her since she moved to Twitch, though

>> No.5628651
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>>5628522
7 years....

>> No.5628779

I used to watch the retarded miko with a lisp until her goblin brother came over.

>> No.5629217

>>5626661
Let's see...
Luna was also my oshi but i first discovered vtubers through Ai-chan
I liked Siro but i never specifically went out of my way to watch her, she was something that i would casually watch if she appeared in recommended
I listened to HimeHina's music
Then Eilene and Yomemi, and through one of their skits i met Cocoa and Moe
I watched Kanna when she debuted, Nobuhime or Mememe on ocassion, and i only started Hololive after the 4th gen debuted, i never really cared for them before and i only knew Fubuki, Matsuri or Sora

Going through my Youtube subscriptions and seeing the graveyard of Vtubers at the bottom hits fucking hard

>> No.5629247

>>5626939
I watched her play the killer in DbD today and I have never seen anyone who was that bad.

>> No.5629267

>>5626661
Kurumi...

>> No.5629470

Kizuna AI, Nekomiya Hinata and Oda Nobuhime. Stopped watching vtubers because subs started taking forever to be attached and if they were it was on non-gaming content which didn't interest me

>> No.5629609

>>5626661
seek help

>> No.5629880

>>5629609
t. holobrony trendhopper idolshitter

>> No.5629890

Annoying Orange was my oshi

>> No.5629898

>>5629890
Not a VTuber, fuck off.

>> No.5629934

>>5626661
Super Sonico's announcements.

>> No.5629985

I liked Osanai Mei and used to listen to this a lot: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGbmpt6h-9U
but then her channel started being more about her older sister and I stopped watching. Natsumi Moe was also pretty cool, loved her skits with Commie. There was this one virus alien vtuber that I can't remember the name of but her biggest video was her saying THIS IS MY HOME and it would be her pointing to her crotch and her pantsu would be covered up with a black hole. If anyone remembers her name then please let me know. I want to try to find her channel again.

>> No.5630028

I dont get what meaning holobrony, first I think mean be a idolfag with vtber or simple hololive fan but I think Im worng, anyway my first vtuber I see its Kizuna Ai (as in his 3 week after debuting), after that I started seeing Siro, Nekomiya Hinata, Mirai Akari, Kaguya Luna and HinaHima. I watch all mini anime they make (Siro and company), my oshi in that time is Siro and I made a promise that when my Japanese is at a decent level, I will come back to see her (although now my oshi is Aqua and my poor japanese does not prevent me from enjoying his streams)

>> No.5630155

>>5630028
What's your native language friend

>> No.5630177

>>5629898
leechama...

>> No.5630192

>>5630177
underagechama...

>> No.5630364

Before I started doing my reps I watched Kureha Kurono and Hanjo TV.

>> No.5630464

Moemi will finish our lovely minecraft house one day.

>> No.5630481

>>5626661
>ITT prove you aren't a holobrony trend hopper
But I am.

>> No.5630556

>>5629985
Found the girl I was talking about, her name is Ruiz and here's the video I was referencing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cuxy3WXt0yA
Glad to see she's still at it despite having some issues.

>> No.5630612
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>>5626661
>twf listened to AZKi and Choco's asmr months before that Miko clip exploded

>> No.5630695

>>5630155
>What's your native language friend
Im a spicy
>also
I know I have a broken english but I can read with any problm... yes Im a little lazy with that but I dont have a motivation to get better grammar, if a have a friend or job that make me need to speak english then I would practice and improve my english

>> No.5630730

>>5630612
I remember when azki was just a failed adtuber

>> No.5630731
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disappeared without any official announcement
youtube and twitter are still up
company site is gone though

>> No.5630753
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5630753

>>5626661
Still mad, will never not be mad

>> No.5630799

>>5630730
And Roboco was that weird 3D girl with the ugly background

>> No.5630871

>>5626661
I'll be honest, before hololive I dont like to watch livestreams. that's why skit vids like Luna and Yomemi were my main priorities. it's all change when I stumbled upon one Fubuki noise clip

>> No.5631139

>>5630753
She was doomed from the start anon
Still, i'm sure she must have been picked up by someone, she's propbably still around

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>>5626661
I watched tons of HimeHina and early Mito before Hololive.

>> No.5631403

>>5626661
Everyday I feel pain that she retired. She had so much potential but I think it was too overwhelming to her.

>> No.5631424

>>5627488
>Never stuck around
she became a national treasure and is on TV more than youtube now.

>> No.5631465

>>5627935
>Siro
Jesus I forgot she existed what the fuck ;_;

>> No.5631484
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>>5631465
>Jesus I forgot she existed

>> No.5631492

>>5628651
I wish there was a full archive of >her skits

>> No.5631497

watched Natsumi Moe as the first ENtuber
watched Kamiko Kana before finding Hololive

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>>5626661

>> No.5631535

>>5631484
Don't mean to diss her but I really don't see enough of her anymore.

>> No.5631559
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>>5631535
How can you forget one of the 4 heavenly kings.

>> No.5631567

>>5626661
Kototsuki Teto. I have all her videos on my hard drive just in case

>> No.5631601

>>5631559
>Mirai akari
>noja
What the absolute fuck where are they? I'm not kidding I don't see them anymore

>> No.5631609
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>>5627794
Imagine not being able to search properly.

>> No.5631610
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YUA...

>> No.5631642

>>5628361
she said people who watch clippers and demand vtubers to "do the thing" are pieces of shit and she doesn't want them in her chat

>> No.5631653

>>5631424
Anon, did nobody tell you that TV is a meme? TV = irrelevancy.

>> No.5631661

>>5631601
I guess hololive and Nijisanji really took vtubing by the throat.

>> No.5631702

>>5631642
That sounds based

>> No.5631707
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>>5631601
Akari got a new model and still does her thing. No clue about noja tho.

>> No.5631762

>>5631642
Based

>> No.5631789

>>5631601
Akari is still around. Noja was inactive for like a year and a half doing behind the scenes stuff but came back earlier this year.

>> No.5631794

>>5631559
Ah, the simpler times when these 5 were basically the whole vtubers.
>>5631642
This is based though.

>> No.5631836

>>5631642
Clipfags BTFO.

>> No.5631923

>>5631642
She's right

>> No.5633475

>>5631559
>oyabun
>choking hamtaro
>slut
>PUBG dolphin

I wanna go back...

>> No.5633637
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>>5633475
Don't we all...

>> No.5633912

>>5631642
Based Hana with her truthpill as always

>> No.5634341

>>5631642
Based

>> No.5634891

>>5627373
Now discover Vshojo which is even better, like the peak of Vtubing.

>> No.5635468

>>5626661
Kizuna Ai, Rushia

>> No.5635846

>>5631642
Hana was right, as always

>> No.5636415

>>5626661
>holobrony
>oshi
>idolshitters
holy shit anon get help

>> No.5636426

>>5626661
>hates idolfags
>uses idolfag terms like oshi
What did he mean by this?

>> No.5636583

>>5636426
People sometimes use "oshi" for fucking kinoko vs takenoko autism of all things. It being somehow idol exclusive is EOP hololingo.

>> No.5636588

>>5627116
Same. Pikamee was the one who got me into the hole in the first place.
2 months after, I had somehow discovered several Nijisanji and Hololive roomate accounts

>> No.5636743
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5636743

>>5626661
In 2011 I watched a 2hu vtuber play minecraft.
https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm13497715

>> No.5637040

>>5636583
But then the same goes for "graduate". That's used all across the industry.

>> No.5637154

>>5626661
Kizuna Ai when she had less than 10 videos.

Osanai Mei.

>> No.5637221

>>5631535
She streams but not often. Gets okay amount of views. I still have her stamps on LINE.

>> No.5637232
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>>5628434
I wonder if it was her fault all that happened... Don't get me wrong, her agency was made up of assholes but I recall her saying stuff like "they want to change my character!!" in twitter and that's not a smart move. Even less in 2018

>> No.5637239

>>5628651
She was really that long ago? It's sad how youtube changed all its algorithms and fucked independent youtubers though. I don't think hololive fans quite realize how much lightning in a bottle they have. They take it for granted.

>> No.5637261

>>5631601
Noja does ASMR now.

>> No.5637292
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>>5626661

>> No.5637364

>>5637292
Moe still does the 360 videos. The whole nature surrounding entertainment is weird. It really makes no sense than livestreams are the most popular things. I think all I can assume is it is the 'community' aspect along with the potential of talking to them directly? I personally don't find livestreams anywhere near as entertaining as the shorter videos, clips, or skits.

>> No.5637396

>>5626661
>Baacharu
>Gorilla
>that babiniku fox loli that used to be so popular that I already forgot the name of
>Himehina
>comdost

>> No.5637410

>>5627680
This fucking hurts.

>> No.5637450
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>>5637364
Yes she still does them but she has been doing other videos too to get away from just doing VR360 and ASMR shitposting, you can see the educational videos.
https://www.youtube.com/c/OtakuMOE/videos

There's also another channel she recently made as well. Still doing Twitch though but on hiatus due to moving, back in July with a new model.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCRO2MGK_dQY65l7yXcPinww

>> No.5637589

>>5637396
How could you forget virtual nojaloli kitsune musume youtuber oji-san Nekomasu desu~?

>> No.5637682

>>5631642
That's based. Fuck off redditor.

>> No.5637770

>>5633637
Fucking holobronies think that they are witnessing the end of the Golden Age when in reality, the golden age died a long time ago and this is the silver age dying.
We are in the bronze age now.

>> No.5637825

>>5631642
Time to give this based indog a chance.

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>>5637770

>> No.5637958

>>5626661
Is that you aishitter?

>> No.5638054

>>5637770
Going by comic ages...
Huh
Is idolshit the equivalent to the Comics Code? Are we going to start having Very Special Streams about drugs and racism now?
How long until we get into the edgy 90s era?
I know the Golden/Silver/Bronze age thing pre-dates comics by millenia, but it's funny to look at it this way, especially the Idol Rules = Comics Code thing

>> No.5638201

>>5638054
It's referencing hesiod's account of the ages of men you uneducated nigger

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>>5626661
Early on I was a fan of Kizuna Ai, Kaguya Luna, Mirai Akari, Nekomasu, and Yomemi. Later on I also started watching PPH, OmegaSis, and HimeHina. I'm not sure exactly what you consider to be when Holoive "got popular", but I've also been watching Korone since her early awkward days.

>> No.5638251

>>5638201
>I know the Golden/Silver/Bronze age thing pre-dates comics by millenia

>> No.5638294

>>5627755
>Shigure Ui
>"Indie"
Literally collabs with NijiHolo every single day. I hope anon genuinely enjoys her and isn't simply name dropping her to prove that he's not a sheep.

>> No.5638312

>>5636415
Being a little contrarian bitch is a proud 4chan tradition.

>> No.5638369

>>5637261
Not my proudest fap.

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>>5626661
Everyone "trend hops" like what you like it doesn't matter I have been watching since the rise of AI, sometimes shit happens and you move on (pic related) somewhere else maybe more comfortable after a situation.
Ironically you start the thread with Luna that's nice that you think you support her but if you ignore https://youtu.be/kf-uRxG5tPQ you're not really one to consider her your "oshi"

>> No.5638422

>>5626661
I likes Kaguya Luna the most.
I remember watching her first Showroom stream and people payed to drop metal pans on her 3d model and so many pans were dropping that she could barely talk. She added an umbrella onto her head the next stream so she could talk and the frequency of pans went down because they no longer landed on her head.

>> No.5638472

>>5638422
*liked

>> No.5638478

>>5630731
She shouldn't have let Eren fall in love with Mikasa and taken his seed instead of a faceless nameless farmer and she'd still be popular

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5638488

I watched quite a few like himehina and nekomiya hinata but my favorite was always pinky pop hepburn. I miss her...

>> No.5638553

>>5630731
I was always sure she was the voice of Akari from yuru yuri but I could never get confirmation of that

>> No.5638595

>>5631642
Hana, Anya and Ollie are InGODs you fucking 16 year old clipper go to PDP if you want meme spamming content

>> No.5642299

i watched her very first video the day it released, it was a butchered weird shit and got old really quick. ironically only someone with a brony brain would stick to that. until i discovered a soulful woman in Hololive. kill yourself opniggerfaggot.

>> No.5642352

>>5642299
her = ai.

>> No.5642420

>>5631642
Based

>> No.5642434

>>5638294
wtf are you talking about

>> No.5642554

>>5637770
If Ai and the Four Kings led the Golden Age, and NijiHolo led the Silver Age, who will lead the Bronze Age?

>> No.5642609

>>5626661
have you tried charging idolfags for the living space in your SEA brain?

>> No.5643500
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>> No.5643568

>>5637825
she's not even indog by blood, she's ハーフ jp/us

>> No.5645086

>>5643500
Now that I think of it, you're right.
>the first vtuber was anon from /a/, jerking off for everyone to see in order to search for the limit and the potential of the new technology

>> No.5645126

>>5626661
I watched kizuna ai play Getting Over It

>> No.5645204

I pray no one else gets to see Fuji Aoi's 2017-2018 model

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>>5645204
SOVL

>> No.5645827

Siro.

Her doom highlight was funny

>> No.5645949

>>5638418
QRD on that pic?

>> No.5646734

>>5645949
This gives a good summary: https://virtualyoutuber.fandom.com/wiki/Game_Club_Project
The parent company has seemed somewhat better since then with their other projects.

>> No.5646881

I didn't watch any. I watched a few clips of Kizuna Ai in 2019 and found her boring.

It wasn't until early 2020 that I got into Vtubers through Hololive, just after Yonkisei debuted.

Holochad here. I also unironically enjoy all of Hololive EN, especially Gura and Kiara.

>> No.5647144

>>5626661
Kaguya Luna and Siro, but I stopped when translations slowed down for both of them.

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