/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

I don't want anyone disputing Pekora is the #1 vtuber on Earth ever again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5726271
I didnt know Chaika was so popular.

[Anonymous No.]

Numberfags aren't human.
You aren't human.
Therefore, you are not allowed to post on 4chon

[Anonymous No.]

>>5726441
Males can be successful, let Yagoo know.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5726271
>>5726271
>>5726271
>>5726271
Chumbuds on SUICIDE WATCH.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5726441
birthday call-ins

[Anonymous No.]

Oh nonono nousagi bros!

[Anonymous No.]

Crazy rabbit, I KNEEL.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5726731
Cope. Gura herself said she considers herself "just a streamer" and not someone who makes edited youtube videos. And livestreams are all about getting live watchers. So Gura's value is about getting live viewers, which Pekora does way better.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5726271
why are you out of the containment?
this should be bannable offense

[Anonymous No.]

>>5726441
>>5726480
And somehow the most popular ones have the personality of a nyc public bathroom. I'm okay with my Holostars not making it because it's just not in the cards for talented charming men to be popular.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5726271
Kuzuha keeping up is all I care about.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5726848
>Gura will never care about numbers
>you will seethe when she gets to 3mil sub milestone

[Anonymous No.]

>>5726848
>Cope
No need to tell us that you're coping. Very obvious from the mental gymnastics you just performed for us.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5726271
Enter

[Anonymous No.]

This is why i will never watch any of them, both her fans are like these, they only care about the numbers and they are literally cancer

[Anonymous No.]

>>5727157
Based.
What's Pekora's record again?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5727157
don't bother with them

[Anonymous No.]

>>5726441
She was on the front page of /a/ for years. Of course she's popular.

[Anonymous No.]

Pekora #1, Kuzuha #2, balance is restored.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5727157
>>5727254
>>5727255
Subaru got like 120k on her outfit reveal stream. Next time Pekora gets a new outfit she'll easily break that record. Pekora is infinitely more popular than Subaru.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5727157
Noel got 140k for her outfit, is Noel bigger than Pekora? Or is it just an outfit reveal?

Face it, she's boring as fuck compared to Pekora.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5727411
You're going after Subaru because Pekora can't beat Gura?
That's pretty pathetic. Even for a nousagi.

[Anonymous No.]

wow more minecraft

[Anonymous No.]

>>5727411
>>5727488
Both Subara and Noel are unironically better than Peko. Peko is normie tier shit that is only popular because she get free advertisement by anime and is the most heavily clipped jp vtuber.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5727719
No, I don't care about Subaru. I'm only using her as an example as to why Pekora will easily break Gura's outfit reveal record. Subaru got 120k despite being infinitely less popular than Pekora. Pekora's next outfit reveal will demolish Gura's record and you are scared of that.

[Anonymous No.]

No one show the nousagis the amount of likes or they'll have a heart attack

[Anonymous No.]

>>5727959
>likes
>ever mattering
kek. Viewership and revenue matter, not likes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5727488
>is Noel bigger than Pekora
You have the answer.
Pekora is boring as fuck compared to Noel

[Anonymous No.]

>>5726731
What does this even tell us, cumbuds tune in for a minute or two and then leave? The attention span of 12 year olds is something else

[Anonymous No.]

>>5728088
And Gura still beats hers vod views get the ad revenue doesn't matter how maby live viewers you get

[Anonymous No.]

>>5727906
Hate to break it to ya, but >>5727157
says 2 mil views in retarded nip numbers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5728227
>Gura still beats her vod views
Gura's most popular video has 3.9 million views
Pekora's most popular video has 11 million views.

It ain't even close. NOT EVEN CLOSE.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5728196
Nothing. It's just chumsharts coping. Vod at end of lives number is almost never accurate:

[Anonymous No.]

>>5728500
Forgot link: >>5716789

[Anonymous No.]

>>5728500
our numbers are accurate!
they are coping!!
reeee

[Anonymous No.]

>>5728196
That's all of EN and ID fanbases actually, tune in for a bit and switch.
A lot more JP watchers put on a stream and just leave it there, maybe with some sake.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5728227
Vod views are a meme, you can watch what 1 minute and it will count as a view? Doubt she gets much ad rev out of that

[Anonymous No.]

>>5728474
There's no way you're not a troll, comparing a week old video with a year old one.
Get better bait!

[Anonymous No.]

>>5728712
She literally had more people watching the likes show that

[Anonymous No.]

>>5728474
>more viewers daily
>way more superchats
Pekora is in her own league

[Anonymous No.]

>>5728853
More daily viewers
>streams twice as much for just a narrow victory

[Anonymous No.]

>>5728769
Except the 3.9 mill video is her debut stream, not a week old video, you blind retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5727811
Your full of copium cumkek

[Anonymous No.]

>>5726271
>JP server stream
>shit hours in the morning
I have no idea what you expected, I'm actually surprised she is even 2nd.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5726271
Peaked at 68k

[Anonymous No.]

>>5728949
100 mil Japanese speakers vs billions of English speakers globally. Pekora shit on her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5728842
Yes, and they don't stick around otherwise her concurrent viewers would be much higher. They tune in leave a like and leave. Then wait for clips of the highlights I bet

[Anonymous No.]

>>5728985
1.5M subscribers concentrated into one timezone vs 2.9M subscribers spread globally across all timezones. there. corrected if for you

[Anonymous No.]

>>5729187
Europe doesn't exist? SEA doesn't exist? There is a tiny fraction that can understand Pekora.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5728474
you are baiting for HERfag ? i see

[Anonymous No.]

>>5728944
>Except the 3.9 mill video is her debut stream
way to fucking kill your narrative

[Anonymous No.]

>>5729281
>SEA
watches japanese content you idiot

[Anonymous No.]

>>5729281
>1.5 M is a tiny fraction that can understand pekora
this is where you sound like coping

[Anonymous No.]

>>5728953
after everyone fucked off...

[Anonymous No.]

>>5729014
>coping nutsackis actually think this

[Anonymous No.]

Everyone just has to accept Pekora is the best. Objectively.

[Anonymous No.]

nousagis are gonna cope that Gura was only 10k views behind their oshi

[Anonymous No.]

>>5729437
>overall viewers higher
>live viewers lower
It speaks for itself cumbaby

[Anonymous No.]

>>5729341
>comparing VODs
>I compare Gura's highest to Peko's highest
>"this kills your narrative"

This is your weakest and most nonsensical cope yet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5726848
Holy fuck you numberfags really are retarded. Pekora is mostly a JP streamer and she streams at JP hours. Gura's fanbase is spread over 100+ countries with different time zones.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5726271
of course

[Anonymous No.]

>>5729547
speaks about what? that gura watchers are spread across many timezones? is this supposed to be your cope?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5729187
You're seriously implying that 1.5 million of Pekora's subs live in Japan?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5726271
>Compare during JP peak hours

That's embarrassing. Just stop it.
Pekora and Gura are equally Hololive idols and I hope they'll collab soon

[Anonymous No.]

>>5726271
Peko, we truly are not worthy of your greatness

[Anonymous No.]

>>5729726
ironic, given that message is from chumfags raiding FBKs chat

[Anonymous No.]

>>5729712
its a japanese language stream ffs anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>5729755
And that's a lesson to be learned.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5729671
this is gigacopium

[Anonymous No.]

>>5726271
>I don't want anyone disputing Pekora is the #1 vtuber on Earth ever again.

there is something off with these numbers, i was watching it live and gura was sitting at 40k for a good portion of this stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>5729671
And you are coping if you think this shit matters at all since any EN streamer on twitch with a similar amount of followers as Gura gets better numbers, such as Sodapoppin.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5729587
LMAO are you really using a song as definite outliner who's better?
just let's wait until Reflect hits one year...
Gura achieved 30% in less than a week of what Pekora did in more than a year
(3,7/11,6)

[Anonymous No.]

>>5729859
Soda is actually the first to 3 mil.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5729918
fuck off twitch thot no one cares

[Anonymous No.]

>>5729859
Gura regularly gets better live numbers than them the fuck are you smoking?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5729859
>Sodapoppin

[Anonymous No.]

>>5729859
>gets better numbers, such as Sodapoppin.
proof?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5729700
That a lot of sharkfags tune in to see what she's doing and close the stream. If they didn't, she would have higher live views. How is this hard for you to understand

[Anonymous No.]

>>5729987
based google doesn't even recognize twitchy thotty

[Anonymous No.]

It's prime time in Japan. Also Pekora deserves it more for orchestrating all these

[Anonymous No.]

>>5729793
And most of her subscribers don't watch her streams or her VODs. What could be the reason for that, hmmm? Could it be because they don't understand them?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5730026
hence the timezones anon, not everyone are tuning at matching time and not everyone has the same available time. what are you not getting here anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>5730012
Soda regularly gets 25k+ while Gura is a wild card and her numbers are very inconsistent.

Also, Asmongold with only 2m absolutely mogs Gura, drawing 50k+ per stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5726271
In terms of viewership, there's no doubt about that

>>5726550
While celebrating 3 million?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5729884
>nooooo outlier
I was responding to a guy comparing their VODs. I compared Gura and Pekora's highest viewed videos. Everyone in this thread can see you're a salty coping bitch whose oshi botted her subs. Gura even has the advantage of speaking English so she has a bigger audience but she still gets BTFO by Pekora's streams on a near daily basis. Gura can't even get 50k or 70k on regular games streams, Pekora does that a lot. Peko also earns more when it comes to superchats not to mention from merch, concerts, etc.

Maybe support your oshi instead of crying to me?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5730207
it was weekend, there is no excuse here, when pekora streams outside primetime and gets better numbers than her cumbuds excuse is always "weekend"

[Anonymous No.]

>>5730207
It's a Sunday for US/EU, timezone cope makes no sense. Only West coast US was super early

[Anonymous No.]

>>5730211
This is a good metric to know VTubers are going mainstream that we are now comparing them to ranked 47th on twitch's popular streamer

[Anonymous No.]

>>5726848
Gura gets higher live viewers but Pekora told Susan to nerf her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5730026
>that tourists tune in baited by cunny, subscribe, realize she is not entertaining and close the stream.
ftfy

[Anonymous No.]

What do you shitposters gain from trying to prove that Pekora is better than Gura or vice versa? You do realize that Gura and Pekora both bringing in good numbers is great for the whole company, right? Also Gura literally doesn't care about numbers or being the best in her company

[Anonymous No.]

>>5730147
anon, the average views are almost proportionate to their subs. wtf do you mean

[Anonymous No.]

>>5730486
Soda is 116th. Gets 23k viewers on average, slightly higher than Gura's playboard average right now which is 22k: https://www.twitchmetrics.net/channels/popularity?page=3
The main difference between them is CONSISTENCY though. Gura's numbers are all spread over while Soda stays near his average.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5730486
Twitch is full of viewbots tho and Youtube halves viewers for everyone. Pekora is on the levels of the strongest Twitch streamers.
>>5730598
Nothing, they're /qa/ trannies. Their mother is literally choking in vomit right now and they'd rather spend the time here instead of helping her out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5730207
>>5726731
But how can this happen anon? Lmao to chumbuds imploding

[Anonymous No.]

>>5730310
>>5730310
>Maybe support your oshi instead of crying to me?

Maybe stop arguing so much instead of losing your time here?
I thought you had your proof? Why are you still here?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5730310
Which is a reasonable point to be honest. Gura indeed the stream with 390k views, and now it's up by 270k views.

This is by no mean undermining Pekora, but rather, dispelling the belief Gura isn't doing well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5730689
fuck, i meant ENDED

LMAO

[Anonymous No.]

>>5730685
>I thought you had your proof?
Sorry, I don't have any. I'm a tranny, after all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5730619
116th? which website is that?

I based mine on https://twitchtracker.com/sodapoppin

[Anonymous No.]

>>5730689
This pretty much proves that Youtube is screwing with EN views right?
There's a pretty large disparity in likes and total views for Pekora to actually have had 20k more viewers.
Especially when Pekora's stream went on for 30 more minutes.

[Anonymous No.]

>/vt/ shits up the board every day with the shark
>Pekora mogs her
>"wtf, no, numbers don't matter at all!"
lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>5730416
>>5730449
what do you not get when i said they are not tuning at matching time and therefore not the same available time? jap watchers needs to be only available at a single timeframe (nighttime), global watchers need to be available at different timeframes (entire day). do you really think everybody has their entire day available just because its weekend?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5729726
Sharkniggers are truly subhumans.

[Anonymous No.]

>but the vodviews!!!!!!!!!!!
archive views are worthless on EN because you all use adblock meaning NO revenue is generated anyway LOL

[Anonymous No.]

>>5726271
She beats almost every female streamer.

[Anonymous No.]

Coco and her massive gachakois might leave but the numberfags will still be around.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5730863
That's a possibility, weird things usually happens every time Gura peaks her numbers, particularly from the outfit reveal. Was it too much for YT karen employees to accept?

Kuzuha's likes right now are also weird, only 8k. They have weird YT viewer engagement as compared to their twitter activity.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5726848
Holy cope

[Anonymous No.]

this stream reeks of copium lmfao

[Anonymous No.]

>>5730689
Holy fuck I refreshed, it's now 740k. The west bros are coming in

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>5730689
Nousagibros.....how do we cope with this? Getting mogged by the shark at our own festival? I don't feel so good Nousagibros...

[Anonymous No.]

>>5726271
Based.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5730933
Imagine whoring yourself out and only getting a few million more views than an autistic rabbit that plays minecraft all day.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5731265
>still more clicks on her channel
>but muh timezone
cope

[Anonymous No.]

>>5731171
I think Youtube is still "verifying" views because both Gura and Pekora's VODs are gaining views in about 40k increments.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5729671
all the timezones dont matter, streaming in US dead hours is as big a debuff gura can get

[Anonymous No.]

>>5730609
EOPs make their views to subscriber ratios worse, is what I'm saying. Pekora is somewhere around 25%, which is way higher than Gura's, but EOPs with their dead subs seriously bring Pekora's numbers down.
Just as an example, I took a look at the more popular Nijis (Tokyo Ghoul, Mito, Yashiro) and their ratios are all higher than Pekora's thanks to the low amount of EOPs.
IF 1.5 million of Pekora's subscribers were actually from Japan, she'd easily mog everyone with her views to subs ratio.

[Anonymous No.]

my oshi is the strongest.
>beating the last meme review ever, even

[Anonymous No.]

>>5731542
yes, you are correct. it took a few minutes for Gura's views to update from 805k to 833k.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5726271
AHAHAHAHAHA

[Anonymous No.]

>>5731741
more people took off after realizing the shark is boring as fuck, while more stayed and watched Pekora who had 20,000 more people.

you showed me!

[Anonymous No.]

>>5731659
Oh wow, Miko peaked at 47k. When did it happen? Pekora peaked after EN went offline. Last I checked Miko was around 27k.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5731777
yeah yeah we already heard this cope a million times

[Anonymous No.]

>>5731659
>mogged by miko
pfff

[Anonymous No.]

>>5731833
how is it cope? what is viewer retention? at NO POINT did the boring shark pass Pekora.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5731808
when pekora went offline obviously

[Anonymous No.]

>>5731859
Seethe. Your meme rabbits VOD views are shit because almost all of her viewers are JOPs. They lose steam immediately and have short legs. Nobody cares about her outside of Japan. Meanwhile Guras VOD views explode even hours after she ended her stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5726480
>Males can be successful
Only if women become accesories, like in nijisanji

[Anonymous No.]

>>5731924
if your shark is so interesting why can't they beat Pekora playing the same game, with billions of English speakers while Pekora has a small island of Japanese people?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5731808
she beat the shark even with jop fanbase being spread among all other jps

[Anonymous No.]

>>5731741
Wow shark has so many 1-2 minute views! Amazing!

[Anonymous No.]

>>5731924
You only need to watch the video for 30 secs to count as a VOD view. Gura is a failure as a streamer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5731741
>Guras vod will reach 1 million in about 30 minutes already
SHARK IS TOO POWERFUL

[Anonymous No.]

>>5726441
Tranny is mainstream in this day and age.
LGBT = Popular

[Anonymous No.]

>>5731808
Pekora ended the stream and Mikomet were still doing stuff in MC so people went there.
Roboco and Aki are the only ones left streaming on the server and even they got 13k at this late hour.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5732021
I bet you have tears in your eyes right now lol Get to that copium faster boi

[Anonymous No.]

it's all thanks to Kiara joining Usaken. Pekora will replace Moona with her next to boost her numbers further.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5731265
But we are still at the same timezone lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>5731983
ok lets hold this event again next time when the other half of guras audience is actually awake

[Anonymous No.]

>>5732162
Also you will see the VOD views double by tomorrow because of said half waking up and watching it

[Anonymous No.]

>>5732203
maybe we should rename the company to holoVOD cause stream viewers don't matter for a livestreamer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5732016
>>5732021
The VOD and like difference is way to high for there to have reasonably just been that much churn in Gura's views.
Pekora supposedly had around 20k more than Gura and streamed for 30 more minutes. It doesn't add up.
As people have been saying since December, Youtube isn't accurate with EN live views.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5732162
But then according to your timezone cope, the other half would be asleep, am i wrong?

[Anonymous No.]

Reminder that numberfagging was literally never about vod views until EN. It's hilarious how much revisionism runs rampant here

[Anonymous No.]

>>5726271
>streaming at 5AM/8AM burger time with a last minute schedule change
https://twitter.com/gawrgura/status/1408834894713786372

>compared to the event main streaming during Japanese primetime

[Anonymous No.]

>>5732316
yep Europe and other countries don't exist, and weren't all awake 8 hours later, and none speak English.

[Anonymous No.]

Gaijin Shark ass blasting the nip rabbit at her own festival is too good. Slant eyed bitches never stood a chance to the superior white shark cock.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5732220
when both streamers stream a new fotm game at their respective peak hours, Gura wins. thems the bricks kid

[Anonymous No.]

>>5732203
Its time to drop vod anon... the fact that gura had more vod when she less live viewers during the stream speaks for itself

[Anonymous No.]

>>5732345
oh, really?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5732337
As far as Vtuber views, Europe does indeed not exist

[Anonymous No.]

>>5732337
>yep Europe and other countries don't exist
numbers-wise they're a small piece of the pie

[Anonymous No.]

>>5732223
Literally how tourist viewers act, enters the stream, leave a like and then leave early to not feel bad about it

[Anonymous No.]

>>5730933
is this current? Looks like she dropped a place.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5732339
but she even got shitted on by migo

[Anonymous No.]

>>5732395
C-chumbuds bros

[Anonymous No.]

>>5732395
or superchats?

[Anonymous No.]

>A user has to physically click the play button to begin the video.
>The video has to be played for at least 30 seconds.
Why do people care about VOD numbers again? Having a higher number of concurrent viewers is much more impressive when that's all it takes to get a view on a video.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5732444
it was 2020 overall i think

[Anonymous No.]

>>5728842
You can leave a like without watching such as during the waiting room. I do that for indies Incase I miss the stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5732395
THE OTHER HALF IS ASLEEP WHAT DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND YOU PIECE OF SHIT

[Anonymous No.]

>>5732395
Gura's average viewership has always been lower than Pekora, I dont know why the fuck are you retards even discussing this. Her views are high, just not as high as Pekora.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5732220
Well Pekora wins in CCV and Gura wins VOD. Nothing gonna happen if nousagis don't try to shit up the shark with their "CCV only". Every numbers matter but you not going to accept it anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5732523
that's uhh, at their respective "prime time".

[Anonymous No.]

>>5732523
>THE OTHER HALF IS ASLEEP
Even if you add more 16k viewers here, she still not beating Pekora.

[Anonymous No.]

numbers don't lie. It's ok, Pekora is the best, no shame in losing to her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5732496
number of clicks on vods means nothing. number of hours watched is what really matter. chumbuds just trying hard to cope

[Anonymous No.]

>>5732395
now do RE:Village. just like choosing a timeslot in JP pirmetime to burger dead hours, you picked a nip-only game. youre better than this nousagi

[Anonymous No.]

>>5732680
Or Henry Stickmin

[Anonymous No.]

>>5732512
She had to restart the stream so Gura's likes all came from the 3 hours she streamed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5732722
well thats unfair in the other direction, thats the EOP only equivalent to MH

[Anonymous No.]

>>5732680
Pekora beats everyone, cause she is Pekora. An actual, entertaining streamer not a boring seiso shark that does nothing.

Then again if you think Pekora is less interesting you probably have brain damage and I can't help you.

[Anonymous No.]

It's not over for Pekora yet in VOD either, I can use the time zone argument for her as well now. Only 130k behind Gura but most of JP is sleeping by now. She'll get more VOD views as they wake up and might surpass Gura.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5732747
pekora will never have the most livestream viewers, she will never have the most subs, and she will never have the most members. and you can cope all you want, but that shit will eat at pekor for eternity.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5732316
This is my final COPE!!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>5732747
Problem with Gura is she needs someone to bring her out of her shell still when in a collab. Miko was able to do so wonderfully, but Gura clammed back up after Miko left.

[Anonymous No.]

>implying live viewers are remotely accurate
It's been proven time and time again that VoD views are far more accurate and consistant since that's what youtube was actually coded for and wasn't made by pajeet coders.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5732747
>Pekora beats everyone
the mental state of pekora fans seething.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5732782
And now the rabbits will say VODs matter once it gets closer to Gura's, but not when it is lower.

But anyway, let's all be happy that the accumulated CCV for the Usaken Summer Festival reached 240k (as per anons).

To note: this is an assumption that YT does exclude duplicate views, for whatever reason there may be.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5732782
So VODs matter now?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5732912
So there was about 110k people who checked on her on that very short duration.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5732912
it means 110k unique ids clicking while she was streaming, live viewers are those that stay. it is not really hard

[Anonymous No.]

>>5732747
rabbitfags are actually 8 years old

[Anonymous No.]

>>5732994
We know for an objective fact that youtube fucks with live viewer counts via Miko's twitch views but we've yet to figure out the exact parameters so it's entirely possible for it to effect one streamer more than the others. VOD views on the other hand have remained consistent so they are objectively a much better measurement.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5726271
That's not what headlines are going to say in 2 weeks when Gura becomes the first VTuber to hit 3 million subs

[Anonymous No.]

>>5732912
Yeah, there's way too much evidence of live view counts being wrong.
It's not possible for Peko to have had 20k+ more live views, stream for 30 more minutes and have fewer total views and likes than Gura.
If live view counts were accurate, Pekora should have like 200k+ more total views than Gura.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5732579
I like how you conveniently ignore the fact that Pekora
1.) Debuted over 1 year earlier
2.) Has almost over 400 VODs more on her channel

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>5733153
you are actually retarded if you think that
pekora gets less VOD views simply because most of her audience are always the same JOPs

[Anonymous No.]

>>5726731
Yawn. Live numbers is what matters. Guess what metric every TV shows and broadcasting station use. LIVE NUMBERS. Chumbus get fucking fucked. That and Chumbud uses bots to get more views.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5733180
If they are that dedicated than she would have more engagement in likes and comments

[Anonymous No.]

>>5733180
we have a word for that: stagnation

[Anonymous No.]

KNEEL

[Anonymous No.]

>>5733248
>first to 1M
oh no no

[Anonymous No.]

>>5733216
This is youtube.

Losers tend to go outside the spectrum every time they lose an argument.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5733248
oh nononono

[Anonymous No.]

>>5733248
IN.UNDER.TWO.HOURS

[Anonymous No.]

>>5733153
>>5733064

[Anonymous No.]

>>5732994
>>5733064
If Pekora really was more popular than surely she would have more people proportionally clicking her videos to check them out rather than just watching the stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5733248
lololololol

[Anonymous No.]

>>5733292
Wait, isn't that faster than Reflect?

Ah, the views were frozen for Reflect on release so hard to measure.

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>>5733216
>Yawn. Live numbers is what matters
Just please explain to me how they matter exactly? Nobody gives a shit about how many people watched the video live. It all comes down to the VOD views in the end and that is fucking fact. Just stop coping already. Its a pathetic and shameful display.

[Anonymous No.]

It's hilarious to see chumbuds coping this hard, kek.

[Anonymous No.]

What are the minimum watch time to be a valid "view" and a cool down of next "view"?

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>>5733153
>and have fewer total views and likes than Gura.
and subs, because her videos get recommended more often, they click like and subscribe. they do not bother to stay watching her.
she probably understands the secret of youtube algorithm, long before she was her current self

[Anonymous No.]

>>5730598
Y-you don't get it, anonchama. My oshi is beter thatn anyones oshu. The numbers dont lie. My holo is the best all your holos a shit

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>>5733368
*nousagis

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>>5732912
More accurate for what? VOD views aren't unique and they're easily inflatable. Not to mention that it only takes 30s-1m for your view to count. I bet if your shark was at the top every single day in live views, you wouldn't be saying any of this.

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>>5733180
Even if that were somehow true that wouldn't explain why Gura had more total views consistently while the event was going on while supposedly having over 20k fewer live views.

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>>5733346
There are lots of live streams reach 1 M shorter than REFLECT, but only songs can reach over 5M for Vtubers.

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>>5733385
One thing is for certain, YT will never allow deceptive views and their system will reject numbers deemed false or invaluable, in behalf of their clients; us and sponsors.

No matter how short or long the duration is, won't change the fact that engagement is real.

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>>5733423
Its funny that nousagis and JPfags always post the same cope again and again and again. Absolutey precious

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>>5726271
Chumbuds will cope to this.

[Anonymous No.]

It's looking like Pekora's going to surpass her in VOD views as well. Difference is pretty small rn. Poor cumsharts. The only cope they'll now have is hitting 1m first.

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>>5732912
What I notice about EN's viewership culture is that
the majority of the viewers doesn't finish the stream in one sitting.
Retention rate is lower than JP, but the regular audience size is larger.

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Nousagis will cope to this.>>5731741

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>>5733488
forget it
pekoras VODs have no legs
even if she would catch up to gura it will not take along until the growths stagnates

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>>5733459
how is this more cope than thinking youtube is fucking with specifically gura live views?

[Anonymous No.]

If Pekora really was more popular than how come she hasn't broken any records? Surely all of her many fans would have watched her outfit reveal or her VODs right? Gura is absolutely far more popular based on every record she's beaten but her fans aren't ultra dedicated to watching every single stream live.

[Anonymous No.]

Nousagis truly are masochists, every time they get btfoed they still come back for more

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>>5733541
Gura simply is the most popular youtuber on the planet right now. You simply have to check worldwide google treands. Pekora barely makes a dent.

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>>5733248
Fuck this thread. Guess what advertisers see. Live viewers. I'll keep saying it. Lmao. Legit stop coping. Also stop botting please chumcucks. Doesn't really look good for Cover or your Oshi. Stinks of desperation.

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>>5733318
Do you realize just how unlikely that is? It also assumes that Pekora doesn't get very much view churn. There isn't any evidence for any of the assumptions you're making.
The much more likely answer is that the live view count is inaccurate.

[Anonymous No.]

Both of them don't even have official clippers like normal youtuber.

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>>5733541
Even I almost went off Gura's stream, I still can't seem to get used from constant camera movement. It makes me feel nauseous.

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>>5733606
I bet you were biting your lip and crying while you typed this

[Anonymous No.]

If they start to recruit clippers to make highlights, their views can be insane.

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>>5733606
And they'll see the record for live viewers belongs to Gura and care far more about her than pekora

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>>5733606
Even more cope. Cute.

[Anonymous No.]

Uhh... Is this the number thread?

[Anonymous No.]

The most direct for sponsors to see is from subs?

[Anonymous No.]

Kizuna AI has the most sponsorship but her live viewer sucks.

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>>5733622
i don't know how many views pekora had right after streaming. logic tells me that YT algorithm is favouring gura, senzawa also had millions of views in no time.

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>>5733368
chumbuds dont have to cope when they sit on top of the mountain

[Anonymous No.]

>Hololive is so dominate that they're racing against themselves
This is like when people made a big deal out of Black Panther beating The Avengers domestically and then Endgame blew it out of the water. It's all the same shit by the same company, why do you care?

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>>5733606
see:
>>5733738
>>5733775
subs are the only thing that has ever truly mattered to an advertiser. and before you bring up a superchat cope, guras members alone make her more monetarily valuable, and her global outreach makes her a more important asset to the company.

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>>5733701
Yes, this is.
The meta is to shitfling over homolive vs manjisanji, and then over the blue autists, and then over random stuffs on repeat.

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Can you faggots answer me honestly, do you genuinely think Pekora is more popular be? Do you people actually believe Pekora has more overall people watching her than Gura or are you just hyping up a single metric divorce of overall meaning?

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Anyway, thanks for the discussion fellas. Let's all be happy, Usaken SummerFest was a success. 240k CCV, that should be our record. Remember that Holobros.

It's just unfortunate, Akukin, Ayame, Shion and the rest were unable to be there.

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>>5733778
chumbuds which do not cope are those who are delusional

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>>5733837
>more important
You really don't want to see Coco VS holocn 2.0

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>>5733850
More live viewers = more people watching, yes. Gura gets more 30 sec views from tourists because she's favored by the youtube algorithm. It means nothing.

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>>5733850
gura is more popular because she can reach out everyone who speaks english and that is like more than half of the internet, she is le cute uwu loli shark meme.
even this board reflects it.

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>>5731257

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>>5733777
View churn isn't that fast. Pekora streamed for 30 minutes more than Gura and had well over 20k more live views than Gura for 3 and a half hours.
If the live view count was accurate, even assuming higher view churn for Gura, Pekora should have several hundred thousand more total views.
As of right now Pekora has about 20k fewer views than Gura.

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>>5734015
Anon, the moment they let go of Gura is the moment they trigger the largest contract war in the history of VTubing.

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>>5732052
I’m 100% sure that you don’t watch him and you know nothing regarding Chaika. Lol if you watch him, you’ll know that he is not a tranny and his design and lore is off of a comedic culture in Japan

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>>5734061
Explain her outfit reveal live viewer record, fastest to a million music record, subscriber count, VODs over a million count if she really does have less fans then Pekora

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>>5733850
Hai!

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>>5733850
100k people watching your video when it's first posted is more important than a million people watching it over a couple days.

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>>5734149
pekora has a concurrent fanbase while gura can get alot more new people every time, that is my guess.

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>>5734179
you are talking about those "dedicated fans" who watches only the most hyped stuff and ignores like 90% of their "oshi" content?

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>>5734179
She has less fans who give a shit about her. Her fans are normies and people randomly getting her videos recommended by youtube. That's why she gets less superchat, less live viewers and less people buying her merch than Pekora.

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>>5733248
Pajeets nerfing EN confirmed

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>>5734360
I can't believe you're this retarded. If you worked in entertainment or marketing in any capacity you'd be fired on the spot for saying this garbage.

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>>5734422
It's okay, as long as her song releases has consistent engagement. It's her edge, that will keep Gura relevant in the next few years.

[Anonymous No.]

Pekora's VOD views are closing in just like I predicted. Tick tock, pedos.

[Anonymous No.]

>spend months setting up summer event
>finally time to rake in the big numbers
>some shark shows up and mogs you in view count
I don't feel so good nousagi bros...

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>>5734672
And it's 3am in Japan! Imagine how much more she's going to get when they wake up!

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>>5734678
red and blue retard, pekora has more loyal fans and gura introduces more people into hololive.

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>>5734436
>>5734422
So despite beating Pekora in literally every single metric including subs, VOD views, members, even twitter followers with the exception of super chats and a very small difference in live viewers, Gura is somehow less popular?

[Anonymous No.]

Dodon dodon don don! who's the #1 vtuber on Earth? Dodon dodon don don!

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>>5734678
She got what she wanted.

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>>5733606
>Fuck this thread. Guess what advertisers see. Live viewers. I'll keep saying it. Lmao. Legit stop coping. Also stop botting please chumcucks. Doesn't really look good for Cover or your Oshi. Stinks of desperation.
You're trying to bait me, aren't you? You're acting like a whiny seething retard, to try and bait me into posting a crying wojak, so you can go "ha ha I win because you're a wojakposter!". That's your game, isn't it? I'm onto you, rabbitfucker. I've got your number.

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>>5734672
>>5734774
You're finally admitting VOD views matter. Unless you want to claim they're bots for Pekora as well?

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>>5733606
Cope harder.

[Anonymous No.]

the only winner here is me, i created gura, i created pekora. i get all your money. cope virgins.

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>>5735045
and i get to sex them.

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>>5734811
>slave away introducing people to hololive
>they end up subbing to the shark instead
ITS NOT FAIR

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>>5734672
If live view counts are accurate Pekora should have something like 150% of the total views Gura has when it's done updating.
Pekora streamed for 30 more minutes and had over 150% more live viewers than Gura consistently.

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>>5734924
That was my first post in this thread, schizochama.

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>>5735090
Peko is a neet who never leaves her house and Gura lives on the other side of the world.

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>>5734102

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>>5735657

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>>5732052
His design is literally satire of fags. If you think he is one you are out of your fucking noggin

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>>5735781

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>>5726855
That only really applies to Kuzuha. All the other popular nijisanji men are completely non-problematic and do a ton of tangible work with visible unique aspects.
No one really gets why Kuzuha is so fucking big, he just is.

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>>5732747
nutsacki truly are the most cancerous fanbase.

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>>5738682

[Anonymous No.]

hey gura

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>>5738988

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>>5728196
The festival started during US dead hours, and ran well into church hours for some time zones, so it's not surprising that more of Gura's viewers had to leave or watch the archive.

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>>5739191

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>>5734853
GURA CHAN

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>>5726848
Nigga the festival was at 4:30-5 am where I live, there is no way I can stay up to watch that shit, vod exist for a reason.

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>>5739214

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>>5740081

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>>5740081
Might as well add the sodasomething guy

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>>5740105
guy?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5740165
sex

[Anonymous No.]

I feel sorry for Pekora, having fans like this.

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>>5740245

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>>5733248
Now compare the numbers, do the math and tell us how many dead subs gura has.

[Anonymous No.]

simple mathematics shows that while Gura has vastly more subscribers she was only able to obtain 18k more viewers.
Meaning that Gura's viewer engagement rate, still now several hours after the fact, is 36.33%
Pekora's viewer engagement rate is 68.18%

[Anonymous No.]

sharkfags are mad cause they are all poor or won't admit dead subs, it's cute.

[Anonymous No.]

>losing to tokyo ghoul too
OH NO NO NO NO

[Anonymous No.]

>>5741840
Gura is too busy entertaining her viewers to breed paypigs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5726271
Pekora uses taiwanese bot viewers sad but true she is money laundering yen for a yakuza mobster

[Anonymous No.]

>>5743133
Meds. Take them.

[Anonymous No.]

I feel sorry for Gura, having fans like this.

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>>5745192

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>>5741033
Pekora's viewpoint was also the main event of the entire festival since the entire thing was named after her. If anything, the fact that she isn't the most viewed POV is really sad on her part. Nousagi on suicide watch.

[Anonymous No.]

This thread is so stupid, they all make big bank for Cover and these two streamers get like 30% of the total revenue and you're worried about COMPARING?!?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5745547
numberfags are pretty much this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4PE9k25TEY

[Anonymous No.]

>Gura gasp at seeing Pekora join the server
>Pekora staring at Gura for several minutes when she saw her for first time
2cute

[Anonymous No.]

>>5746049
fuck off retard you have to pick a side

[Anonymous No.]

Korone is the best vtuber!

[Anonymous No.]

>>5746049
Pekora trying to tell Gura some coords but never getting past the first was top tier comedy. I love them both so much

[Anonymous No.]

Only schizos dispute that Pekora is the the Queen of Vtubers, Gura isn't the queen but she's definitively royalty, alongside a few others.

[Anonymous No.]

I used to think Pekora was a neat Vtuber. Nothing too crazy, nothing too special, just a very cute and funny rabbit girl having fun, and I liked that.
However, after sharing /jp/ and this shithole with the nutsackis, I only want to see her crash and burn just to see those niggers hang themselves and stop ruining this hobby for the rest of us.
The worst thing about this shit is that your target is Gura, the girl who couldn't care less about her numbers and her success, and has hinted, multiple times, that she doesn't enjoy the spotlight and would prefer to be a low profile Vtuber more. You rabbit fags are so desperate about the fact that this low effort streamer is mogging your oshit in terms of subs and vod views that you try to start threads like this in order to cope, and it's pretty pathetic.
At least Pekora herself has confirmed that she appeals to children, so it's not hard to imagine that a lot of the samefagging nutsackis spamming the board with bait threads like this are all underage faggots with nothing else going on in their lives.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5726731
OP BTFO

[Anonymous No.]

>>5748012
ogey

[Anonymous No.]

>>5748012
Based

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>>5728196
It was also at just about the worst time slot possible for the US while primetime Japan.

Plus a lot of EN fans are EOPs and tuned out because too much Japanese. I saw several people going "translator where?" or even "subtitles please", "where's the subtitles" etc near the beginning of the event, these must be the most absolute normalfag of normalfags, former HERfags etc who know fucking nothing about Holo or vtubers as a whole. I can imagine a bunch of those faggots tuned out after like 15-20 mins.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5748012
Gura will never date you. Take your meds.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5748012
Thanks for delivering the truth to these faggots, anon.

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>>5727266

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>>5748012
>everyone comparing must be a nousagi
Retard
they use her to shit on gura because they hate her for whatever reason. they would use any chuuba for it. imagine changing your opinions on girls that have no clue what is going on here because anons. nijikeks and vshojo can shit on my chuubas all they want, my opinion on their streamers and mine can only change by how the streamer is.