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>> No.57527561

>>57527538
if she is talking about the game it's going to be ok
if not...

>> No.57527600

Yes she's talking about the game.
otherwise we're fucked

>> No.57527735
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>>57527538

>> No.57527841

>>57527538

I hate kusoge and i hate japanese walking simulators.

>> No.57527934

Have ANY of the chuubas (in general, not just Holo) who have played this game pointed out that the use of the word "parasocial" as the game's title is wrong, considering what actually happens in the game? Has anyone in their chat pointed it out?

>> No.57528012

>>57527934
I only watch JP's and there's no way you can expect them to understand that. As far as I can tell the understanding among nips is that parasocial is analogous to gachikoi (saw nips on holoplus talk about it)

>> No.57528058

>Lamy
>GFE
Hello newfags

>> No.57528133

https://www.youtube.com/live/6dtaO4ksyNk

>Title translation: (In a BIG WAY) A game where Lamy's the protagonist...seriously???

>> No.57528161

>>57528012
>basically "no"
Confound those Chilla Brothers! Oh, how I hate them! I hate Chilla Brother #1! I hate Chilla Brother #2! And I hate their fans! They drive me to shitpost!

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57528171

>>57528058
>He doesn't know

>> No.57528254

>>57527934
>Do the Japanese understand an English word that just came into being from a few years ago?
No dumbass and people aren't "using it wrong"
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=parasocial
It can mean anything from gachikoi to unicorns or even some random mother fucker the only thing important is the unhealthy assumed relationship between the admired and the admirer

>> No.57528366

>>57528254
>It can mean anything from gachikoi to unicorns
no it can't retard. thats why those words exist in the first place
and yes 'people' are using it wrong

>> No.57528400

I thought she hates horror game

>> No.57528421

>>57528254
>urban dictionary as a source
i can count your IQ on one hand

>> No.57528462

>>57528400
She does. It makes you wonder why she's so eager to do this one.

>> No.57528566

>>57528462
Because it doesn't have ghost?

>> No.57528582

>>57528171
Maybe old Lamy, but new Lamy's GFE is more funny than serious
The early gachikois are probably still under the spell though

>> No.57528727

The game parasocial is not a critique on parasocial vtubing culture. I've seen a few takes that it's making a social commentary point that being parasocial is LE BAD also that a small number of WHOchuubas with no viewcounts are shitting on parasocial chuubas and fans and this is not true.
I will now spoil the game to explain what I mean by this so if you care about chillas art spoilers don't read this.
You are made to think that a crazed fan is stalking you in an extreme way. Only to find out (which is pretty obvious from the gameplay) that it's actually your ex boyfriend that is stalking you and paying a guy to pretend to be a crazed fan, in a scheme to get you (the female vtuber) back
Basically any vtubers that use the game as an excuse to shit on their fans and shit on the current parasocial... culture? Is a grifting retard and should be dropped.
Anyway, lamy is talking about the game here.

>> No.57528852

>>57528727
>spoiler
You forgot the fact that he has his mom and some other guy (her brother/his uncle?) in on it too.
In that case, the game should have been called 集団ストーカー/Gangstalking.
I just like spoilering text.

>> No.57528886

>>57528421
>Yes i'm sure when you call people "fag" on 4chan you're using the old British version of it meaning a bundle of sticks too right?
Go ahead and bring out the official dictionary version of the word then which if it exist won't be that much different than how it is generally used in modern times now.

i'll wait

>> No.57529122

>>57528852
Well the reason it's called that is because it's a red herring

>> No.57529148

>>57528582
I'm still clinging on chasing the ghost of the old Lamy, but other Yukimins who have a little more self respect have left. Some even kicked up a stink on their way out which I don't agree with because it makes Lamy sad, but I can't say I don't understand.

>> No.57529197

>>57529122
I get that, but giving the game that title opens the way for grifting retard VTubers to shit all over their audiences, like you said.
I don't know, man. The Chilla Brothers are dumb.

>> No.57529204

>>57528254
The game is about a person she knows IRL stalking her. The message of the game is literally that IRL relationships are more dangerous than online parasocial ones could ever be, and you beggars would know that if you watched streams.

>> No.57529327

>>57528727
But it does seem to be a critique on the culture, mainly that people use this "crazed, parasocial fan who can't take it anymore" boogie man of an idea and flout it as if it's a real problem every emotionally open streamer or parasocial fan is at fault for when the reality is every group in society will have those crazy, violent people just due to large numbers. People don't point at tennis fans and say they're all murders just because a fan stabbed Steffi Graf at the French Open.

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>>57527538
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>> No.57529541

>>57527934
When you are being too attached to a famous person (typically celebrities and/or online personalities), that's categorized as a parasocial relationship
It's not limited to romantic feelings
Thinking of a streamer as your friend is parasocial because it's one sided

>> No.57529608

>>57527538
You don't have to be scared because you don't speak Japanese or watch Lamy. What retards like you do though, is follow all holos just to fish out potential drama comments like that one.

>> No.57529612

>>57528886
https://www.dictionary.com/browse/parasocial
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parasocial_interaction

a parasocial relationship has nothing to do with the act of people spending money on celebrities, disliking males in your oshis vicinity or the delusion of thinking said celebrity 'loves' you back(Erotomania).
it is merely the word for a one-sided relationship of any kind as in "I know them, they don't know me"

If you're watching a 1 or 2view and actively participate in chat it can already hardly be considered 'parasocial' as there is a social interaction going on between both parties.

>> No.57529649

>>57529148
That's a classic dilemma you know, where you want to show that chuuba changed and pushed away part of her audience and it hurt you, but don't want to make her sad and come off as an asshole.

>> No.57529715

>>57529612 me
nothing about it is unhealthy or abnormal as 'parasocial' relationships have probably existed for as long as stories or books have.

>> No.57529762

>>57529649
But that's just a menhera delusion? Healthy people would just walk away

>> No.57529892

>>57529762
>Healthy
Keyword, majority of people getting that deep are not mentally healthy and while some are able to just walk away a leave it at that we do see a large chunk of them sperg out in various ways

>> No.57529900

>>57529762
You can say that, but if everyone just walks away streamer will never understand what was the reason. I'm the type to not bother and walk away, unless streamer directly asks. But I'm glad some guys are brave or schizo enough to openly shit on certain behaviour or changes, they will either get told off, or she pretends to be a victim, or she gets it into consideration.

>> No.57529928

>>57527934
Nobody knows what it means.
IRyS thought it meant
>being social with many people
ie. "polysocial" or whatever the fuck she had in mind.
Only the terminally online twitter troons and those groomed by them like that niji >>57527735 retard
know about this word at all.

>> No.57530030

Y'all think if Yahweh saw all his followers and idolators he'd call them parasocial fucks? If I was Yahweh, I know I would. You creepy parasocial fucks.

>> No.57530033

>>57529762
That makes no sense. If you're sane you wouldn't even have a reason to be upset just because she started acting less parasocial. Better yet, you would never become a gachikoi to begin with. You're basically suggesting that an inmate should just un-commit the crime that got them locked up in the first place so they can just walk out of prison.

>> No.57530102

>>57530030
Piss off, Jew.

>> No.57530127

>>57529900
This sounds like a patronizing opinion of the streamers as people. It doesn't take Einstein levels of intelligence to recognize the patterns of one's own streams compared to viewership, as if Lui would be blindsided when she gets fewer viewers playing Overwatch 2 compared to a Minecraft stream

>> No.57530132
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57530132

I don't understand this thread.
Every single person who watches streamers is parasocial towards that streamer. The only exception being streamers who are particularily good at games or have other extraordinary talents that they would be watched for (ex.pro-gamers, speedrunners, news/podcasts or any other content people watch without caring about the streamer)

The only reason people return again and again to watch their streamers is the parasocial relationship they build up with that person.

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57530161

>>57528727
Here the tldr

>> No.57530234

>>57530127
But if those who voiced their concerns about male collabs didn't, would she think they didn't watch just because the game boring? Or they don't like her collabing with those girls? Or are they boycotting this sponsorship. There is many possibilities why they didn't watch her, or even some go as far as stop supporting her. Ofcourse she is most likely knows it's because game is boring and because of males, but if someone doesn't affirm it, its just her guesses on why she got lower ccv

>> No.57530290

>>57528582
>Maybe old Lamy, but new Lamy's GFE is more funny than serious
I don't watch Lamy so I have no idea how she changed but from that description it seems like she is 100% commited to GFE.
At the start it's all lovey-dovey and as time moves on it's jokes and casually shitting on eachother.

>> No.57530344

Newfag to Lamy. Anybody kind enough to give me a history lesson?
Is she heavy on the GFE?

>> No.57530362

>>57529327
Again, that's the grifters talking, and they didn't actually play the game.
They judged the book by its cover because they are ideologues grifting as vtubers and not actual vtubers.

>> No.57530489

>>57530344
watch her from the 2nd anniversary live backwards and you'll get consistent gfe, forwards and it's a different story

>> No.57530523
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57530523

>>57530030
He'd call them idolaters, duh.

>> No.57530592

>>57530161
also "play my other games, The Convenience Store is good!"

>> No.57530626

>>57528012
Sure they can. Polka's acknowledged that her relationship with her fans is parasocial in nature, and that it's fine that way so long as no side pushes things too far.

>> No.57530681

>>57528462
>it makes you wonder why she's so eager to do this one.
You don't watch Lamy. She is scared of horror, but she has still played every (holo)popular horror game in the past few years, including all of chilas drek.

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57530690

>>57530626
>polka spent her savings making a music video about how much she loves her fans

>> No.57530768

>>57527538
lamy would never betray her yukimin
>>57527735
opinion dismissed, whore

>> No.57530874

>>57527538
>the parasocial meme about chuubas using the game as an excuse to shit on their gachikois and unicorns
>think it's bullshit
>open up my favorite 2 view's stream
>the twenty minute prechat is her shitting on parasocial viewers and pretending not to understand parasocial viewers
Jesus fucking christ, some bitches are 2 view for a reason. Why can't they just go "owo vtuber game very fun much kusoge"?
Same shit with that Oshi no Ko nonsense where bitches were thinking they were as starry eyed as the actual idols in that manga.
Fucking inane. You never hear strippers complain on stage

>> No.57531012

>>57530874
>crusty whores that catch flak for streaming with their boyfriend think they're some poor misunderstood innocent idol

>> No.57531280

>>57531012
Enna?

>> No.57531383

>>57527934
Chilla's a 200iq genius, because nowhere in the game does it shit on fans or being parasocial. So when the chuuba comes in with predilections on how being parasocial sucks, it flips their skirt.
Hell, the message of the game is don't have a boyfriend. Dude knows what's up.

>> No.57531416

>>57531383
It's in OnK alleyway with red herring lmao. Although way more blatant

>> No.57531470

>>57529197
Which is a great idea because it filters oit the grifting whores for being the grifting whores that they are. Chillas are smart.

>> No.57531500

>>57527934
Parasocial is just a buzzword for stalker/simp in 2023

>> No.57531505

>>57529327
Or hooligans at football games.

>> No.57531717

>>57530132
That's the point, you do understand this thread perfectly.
Parasocial relationships are what chuubas, geishas, and host clubs offer over your common whore. Emotional connection. Smart chuubas realize this fact and don't try to break illusion. Delusional grifters lament that THEY chose to play entertainer for people that pay them money.

>> No.57531924

>>57529541
This shit isnt about delusions of a streamer being your wife
Literally any kind of one sided connection is parasocial
Having a favorite book author is parasocial
Its not a word you throw around to describe something its a phenomenon coming from our inability to stop trying to connect with people even when its impossible

>> No.57532122

>>57529197
Yes and the coffee shop game has a bad title because it’s not actually a coffee shop that stalks the character, it’s a human but the title makes it easy for people who hate coffee shops to shit on them. They’re jp, they heard an English word they thought sounded cool and used it, it’s not that deep

>> No.57534735

>>57527600
yeah, by me.

>> No.57535334

>>57530290
It went from
>please tell your parents we are dating, nothing would make me happier
to
>nee, don't watch other girls, geez

>> No.57535837

>>57531717
You can try to romanticize what vtubers are, but the simple reality is that you fags have an almost non-existent bar for entertainment, base a lot of your opinions on who to watch based on design and voice, and so long as the entertainer doesn't remind you you're a loser or brings up males she likes IRL, you give her money. The connection is mostly one-sided, to her you are an ego boost that gives her a paycheck sometimes.
That "connection" you speak of is shallow, based on shallow things.

>> No.57536547

>>57529148
>oh no, this alcoholic millionaire who can only exist in our current broken economy is le sad
Those guys were sad too but apparently smelly holes get the priority.

>> No.57537685

>>57535334
You think she even still says the latter? I fucking wish...

>> No.57539880

>>57527538
Anons please response. Who are the best GFE English vtubers at the moment?

>> No.57540209

>>57539880
Shondo I guess, although some of the stuff can be deal-breaker.

>> No.57541547

>>57527934
It's a bait and switch for the bad end you retard.

>> No.57543488

>>57528254
>https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=parasocial
A psychological term having a urban dictionary definition, you can tell that people are using it wrong just by that.

>> No.57544092

>>57535837
>That "connection" you speak of is shallow, based on shallow things
NTA but most IRL connections are shallow and dictated by your social, economical and geographical situation. Your life is full of people you have to pretend to like out of convenience, at least the connection you have with a streamer/chuuba is something you actually sought out yourself.

>> No.57544468

>>57544092
You can say that about any connection, you'd be surprised how many people DON'T connect with "the right people" or the people they should connect with.
You can do the all the mental gymnastics you like, it will never be to the point that vtuber connections are genuine, not one sided, and not based on complete shallow and superficial things because kayfabe is something they must keep up.

>> No.57545127

>>57544468
Not really doing any mental gymnastics here, just saying some people prefer to have fake connections to personalities they like over fake connections to people they don't like.

>> No.57545205

>>57527538
yukimins are the most cucked fanbase. lamy clearly has a bf.

>> No.57545530

>>57545127
This post is a whole new point, but the point still stands that calling it a "connection" is an exaggeration when it so shallow and one-sided. Your previous post is then irrelevant as any connection anyone has, except that of family maybe, is "a connection one sought."

>> No.57547593

>>57545205
even if she did, that alone wouldn't make yukimins the MOST cucked considering what the other girls are up to

>> No.57548429

>>57528133
The main character has a boyfriend, does she know that by writing this title.

>> No.57548951

>>57548429
Ex-boyfriend, Yukimin already know that.

>> No.57550234

>>57545530
>Your previous post is then irrelevant as any connection anyone has, except that of family maybe, is "a connection one sought."
Not at all. Your relationships with your classmates, coworkers, hell even most of your circle of friends, is mostly made up of connections you did not seek.

>> No.57550570

>>57547593
what could be worse than already having a boyfriend

>> No.57550743

>>57545205
Who, marine? Cause holy fuck does Lamy really want to fuck Marine for some reason.

>> No.57550955

>>57550234
Wrong again.
I do not think I have a connection with such people. They are merely acquaintances. And you are less than that, as an individual, to a vtuber.
Sharing pleasantries with such people does not establish a connection in any meaningful way. I suspect this is just now delving into semantics, but this point you are trying to make to convince me, or yourself, that
>dude a connection with a vtuber is totally more meaningful because most people around you put on a fake face and so do you, and you interact with them because you have no choice, so the fact I choose to interact with a fake, constructed personality is much more meaningful, man
comes across as the juvenile ruminations of an edgy teenager, or the stupid lamentations of a manchild.
I dunno about you anon, but I know I didn't have this magnetic personality where I talked to all my classmates or coworkers, and I certainly never pretended to like anyone I didn't, even when it behooved me.

>> No.57551187

>>57527538
What she means is that the game represents her. Not in the role of Vtuber, but in the role of the stalker who pursues his oshi, even breaking into her house.

>> No.57551737

>>57550955
>I do not think I have a connection with such people
What you think is irrelevant, because you do share a connection with them. A shallow connection, as said earlier, but a connection nonetheless.
>And you are less than that, as an individual, to a vtuber
No shit, that's the whole point of parasociality. I'm not the one trying to compare that kind of relationship to real, meaningful, real life relationships here. You are.

>> No.57552104

>>57551737
>What you think is irrelevant, because you do share a connection with them. A shallow connection, as said earlier, but a connection nonetheless.
Nice conjecture bro, now prove that empirically.
When you do, I'll take your posts seriously.

>> No.57552486

>>57552104
So a classmate or a coworker is either a friend or a non-entity to you?
>it's an acquaintance
Yeah, and you do share a connection with an acquaintance, whether you like it or not. Hence the comparison with a parasocial relationship: it is as shallow, but it's also more meaningful to YOU.

>> No.57552491

>>57550570
Also already having a boyfriend?

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