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57595354 No.57595354 [Reply] [Original]

why do male chuubas refuse to have goofy/fun designs when it clearly fucking works

>> No.57595419

probably too insecure or they really try to get that e-pussy

>> No.57595962
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>>57595354
live action zoro fucking sword

>> No.57596037

i mean they can, but no way in hell are they getting money. chuuba culture requires the mentally ill to spend money on them and its a monumental task to somehow get enough people to fall in love with you looking like that

>> No.57596086

Pikamee got destroyed for it

>> No.57596114

>>57595354
I'm surprised no one tried to go for an Akira Toriyama style chuuba. You'd think there would be at least one shounen tard out there who wants to be Goku

>> No.57596162

Male chuubas don't work. No one likes them

>> No.57596195

Its really simple
EN vtubing primarily has its foothold in internet weeb culture, and so is popular among people who play mobage and consume moe/cuteboys media ala bandori, love live, enstars etc., thus most vtuber designs will attempt to appeal to that demographic.
Vtubing's foothold on the broader anime and manga sphere barely exists. A hypothetical shounen-esque vtuber should not try to appeal to the current vtubing base, but should instead make one themselves among people who are general manga/anime consumers AND don't mind watching avatar streamers. But that is hard and streamers are lazy shitbags, so they go for the path of least resistance and try and be fags to appeal to sisters instead.

>> No.57596209

>>57596037
Explain Peanuts-kun.

>> No.57596415

>>57596209
If we're talking JP, they (mostly) have no issues with males. In JP, the appeal of vtubing (outside of holo) is "ANIME but REAL". A male can make it big regardless of model so long as they're entertaining, like an anime character would be. It's why JPstars do actually get traction when they're OUTSIDE of the holobox. also I want to stick Peanuts-kun up my ass, so there's nothing to explain.

>> No.57596484

>>57596209
i cant speak japanese, so i have no idea what wonders he whispers into his audience's ears. i cant name a successful goofy/mascot chuuba (like successful succesful. plenty of loopholes exist tho like neuro-sama)

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>>57596195
Is Manly Badass Hero a vtuber?

>> No.57596532

>>57595354
OP, people made fun of Tempus design when they're shown for the first time. They keep talking about how they're shit and need to be changed.

>> No.57596550

>>57595354
>>57595962
Go back /a/ cretin

>> No.57596624

>>57596086
No she's not. Her design, the original and her dino version are very loved.
It was when she made Isekai version, that's originally designed by her that it got some refusal. It's too cute and fit more for female audience. She tweaked it several times until the design finally got accepted by her fans.

>> No.57596999

>>57596415
If we're only talking about EN, then the answer is simple; They don't have a history of goofy yet successful anime characters to draw inspiration from. Japan has had all sorts of popular and beloved male characters, many of whom ended up becoming cultural phenomenons.
Silly looking male vtubers could probably work in South America but not anywhere else.

>> No.57597154

>>57595354
Your personality sorta has to match your design to an extent. If you go for a visually wild design, people are in turn going to expect something unique and over the top in terms of personality in turn, and that can get tiring after a while if you're not naturally an over-the-top person. Looking like Luffy and then you come out sounding like a podcaster, it just doesn't mesh at all. Not to mention the artistic skill/money cost of making a more wild, yet still visually appealing character design is a lot higher than some cookie-cutter design. Both cases, a novice male streamer likely doesn't have the experience or the finances to pull off doing a goofy character well. In regards to the professional scene, this mostly has a lot to do with the fact that male vtubers are a risky investment to begin with, and yaoi-bait characters are seen as a safest investment in that regard since a fujo will almost certainly toss some change their way. Since it'll be a snowball's chance in hell seeing a corpo take a risk on some exceptionally wild male character, it also guarantees any guy willing to portray such a character on stream would have to do so independently and out of their own pocket. It would pretty much have to be someone's passion project to go out, spend the money and vtube with a wild and goofy design and stick with being this over-the-top character almost constantly. It's a lot to ask for, and if you're someone who wants to go professional and sign on to a corpo, you gotta get used to being in a yaoi-bait skin anyways, so the draw to be an eccentric character just isn't there for guys.

>> No.57598768

>>57596624
Can confirm. Hey original and monster designs were kino. When she got the stupid isekai model it filtered a lot of people and we started watching her less and less.

>> No.57599150

>>57596114
A bit too iconic. People will think the one who use it is uncreative.
Also it require certain attitude.
Perfect for body building chuuba though

>> No.57599349

>>57596999
>Silly looking male vtubers could probably work in South America but not anywhere else.
this can 100% work, the most popular br streamer looks like a middle school nerd

>> No.57599458

>>57595962
Post Helmeppo's ass or btfo.

>> No.57599798

>>57595354
Because you also have to be goofy and the only people I can think of who would fit the bill are Jerma, who doesn't even need to be a vtuber to look goofy, and Bettel who is already a clown.

>> No.57599818

>>57596532
Chinman and Flatface were not goofy they were bad

>> No.57600548

>>57595354
If I was to become a vtuber I would definitely go for a funny-looking design. Very expressive, with exaggerated facial features. You can still make it cute or cool, but there's no reason to keep it so tame.
But I suppose it depends on your target audience. I wouldn't pander to fujos since I'm not into that, and bros wouldn't want to look at a ikemen design anyway.

>> No.57601927

Look at Ryugon.
Shounen-style characters are unironic pussy magnets and at the same time don't alienate male watchers.

>> No.57602343
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I think lack's model is cool

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>>57595354
what do you mean? 620k subs male chuuba just revealed this goofy shit the other day

>> No.57602401
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we need more debi chubas

>> No.57602428

>>57595354
they exist in the form of indies, you just don't bother to look for them since all you watch is your next girlfriend experience.

>> No.57602463

>>57595354
It wouldn’t change anything, why do holostars fans seem to think the issue is them not being cool enough? The issue is that we are here for cute girls, not boys. A male vtuber could be the coolest mf on the planet with the most badass design ever conceived, but i still wouldn’t be interested

>> No.57602517

>>57602372
>le template hot boy face
can I get a fucking retarded ugly brotuber so women don't watch him

>> No.57602686

>>57595354
IShowMeat would be great in a goofy shonen inspired vtuber model

>> No.57602744

>>57602517
You mean an orc formerly vampire formerly orc?

>> No.57602784

>>57602401
Thats Salome anon

>> No.57602809

>>57595354
>when it clearly fucking works

where exactly?
Kazuha
Vox
Luca
Ike
Mysta (rip)
Shu
Shxto
All Ikemen/bishounen looking moutherfuckers.

>> No.57602847

>>57602809
>all fujo panderers except Kazuha
Gay4pay is a thing, but not all guys are into that.

>> No.57602885

>>57602343
why he made 2 bad designs for Cover but for himself he put all his soul?

>> No.57602892

>>57595354
>when it clearly fucking works
Outside of an occasional or one time gag, it does not.

>> No.57602897

>>57602847
Sure, but if there was a market for wacky male vtubers, the niche would have been filled by now. But it hasn't because it doesn't exist.

>> No.57602913

>>57602744
Definitely not a bro

>> No.57602966

>>57595354
...Huh. Astute observation, given that the Tempiss /vt/ can stand the most is one with the goofy/fun design.

>> No.57603045

>>57602744
Would be perfect if he wasn't the wrong kind of menhera.

>> No.57603189

male vtubers should not even be a thing. It should be ostracized and criticized. men should either no cam or face cam.

>> No.57603358
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57603358

No doubt a vtuber like Kagetane (black bullet) or Klein Moretti (Lord of the Mysteries) would work. Nijisanji themselves already have a joker-like member

>> No.57603393

>>57595354
Wasn't there some Orc male chuuba?
I heard he recently come back to streaming.

>> No.57603411
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NAMI
IMPREGNATION

>> No.57603445

>>57596114
>>57599150
It would be huge in spicland. Someone get Motoaki Tanigo on the phone, I know how we can make Holostars BIG

>> No.57603492

>>57596037
Vtubing never should have been commercialized. People like gor goora and ploppa plopkin would just be ripping off retards online as e-girls if vtubing was too unprofitable for them to get in.

>> No.57603526

>>57602343
HOLY SOVL

>> No.57603597

>>57603492
Vtubing was commercialized from start.
Do you think Kizuna Ai was some passion project?

>> No.57603611

>>57603445
A DB vtuber, a Captain Tsubasa vtuber and a Saint Seiya vtuber would conquer Latin America in one day.

>> No.57603658
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57603658

why do male chuubas refuse to have serious/grim designs when it clearly fucking works

>> No.57603694

>>57603597
It was just Kizuna alone in her garage with her female friend Kadokawa holding the camera.

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>> No.57603826

Get your faggoty One Piece shit out of here. Annoying art style for annoying tranny audience.

>> No.57603838

>>57595354
In the case of corpos they don't really have a choice. They get hired to fill a preset role.

>> No.57604008

>>57603826
If you want tranny to actually maintain its sting as an insult maybe don't go full-retard with it my guy. Less is more.

>> No.57604359

>>57603826
are you lost

>> No.57604402
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>>57595354
>male chuuba

>> No.57604473

>>57598768
Are you people forgetting how much shit she got for her monster design?
Not so much here, but it was a shitstorm that even made her take a break.
Personally I didn't mind it, but I liked the original better.

>> No.57604516

>>57602897
>new idea hasn't taken off yet, so clearly it's impossible!
This is why you'll always be a wagie

>> No.57604660

>>57604516
>Said the fag who has never visited the 1 and 2 view scene
Trust me, there are some fucking abominations out there, every niche has been tested. There is no new ideas in terms of design. There are more male vtubers than female vtubers, every design type has been tried.

>> No.57605097

>>57604660
And? Just because it's been tried once doesn't mean it can be tried again, but differently. It's how art evolves. You try and try again until you get it right. So far, nobody's gotten it right. Literally anyone has a chance to become the prime mover right now. Anything is possible, doomer wagiechama

>> No.57605503

>>57605097
Again, you have not been around the 2 view scene. Just in fucking /asp/ which is a tiny proportion of the vtubing Indies sphere we've had
>a moai
>black goop monster
>a literal gecko
>a Muppet
>a battleship
>the bubble buddy from spongebob
>A Bob Ross looking abomination
>a mothman
>A marionette
>A nutcracker

Plus a bunch of others I'm forgetting about. Unless you're going to provide proof of this magical unseen market for shounen brotuber that's just perfectly ripe to be exploited, I'm going to keep calling you a delusional fag because there are plenty of brotubers with insane models and yet none of them break out of 2 view twrritory. Male fans already don't watch to watch men and do not want to watch men, so why even fight uphill to capture a market that doesn't exist and infact that market would rather you fuck off and die?

>> No.57605728

>>57596162
>>57604402

>> No.57605744

>>57604008
You idiots literally let trannies have One Piece though. New Vegas all over again.

>> No.57606207
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He will steal your wife if she plays yugioh

>> No.57606819

>>57603492
Vtubing would hardly exist then. Maybe Sora and Miko would still be going at it, but every one else part their time would've burned out, or never started in the first place.

>> No.57606885

>>57595354
Indies have. It doesn't make money.

>> No.57607017

>>57602809
Vgorilla is relatively popular

>> No.57607026

>>57605503
The fags always writing dissertations in these threads don't actually look at the indie scene to know all this already exists and doesn't help them break out of the 2view bubble in the slightest.

>> No.57607102
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You guys do realize that you need more than just a model to attract people, right?
Even if one of those random male indies got a gura-tier model, if he's a boring streamer nobody will watch him.

And, considering that 99% of the people into vtubers are similar to the faggots that you see creating threads around this place, you can picture why there's barely any popular male vtubers.

>> No.57607199

>>57605503
>mothman
like, SMT Mothman?

>> No.57607479

>>57607102
But /vt/ told me that you just need to be a woman (female) and you'll be guaranteed to have success

>> No.57607535

>>57605503
>a battleship
Ugh, based I guess ?

>> No.57607538

>>57602809
Don't diss my nigga Peanut-kun like that

>> No.57607613

>>57607479
I went to twitch to look up the normies' reaction to holocure after it started trending there and there's so many female vtubers there with 0-1 viewers that you could hardly call it a success. Women has a better chance having their cams pointed at their cleavage.

>> No.57607626

>>57595419
obviously how else are they going to fuck them oshis

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>>57595354
Parrot4chan

>> No.57608135

>>57595354
>it clearly fucking works
show 1 example

>> No.57609177

>>57596209
>early vtuber
>intentionally silly design
>as in it's literally a living peanut in underwear, why would anyone seriously compare that to any human vtuber
I fucking wonder.

>> No.57609619

>>57596624
>>57598768
bullshit, she constantly had people bitch at her about the dino outfit

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