/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

Is this really a controversial take? The whole of twitter is clowning on this guy for saying streamers should stream or engage their community more.

[Anonymous No.]

>>59198070
WTH? Robocco has fans?

[Anonymous No.]

WTH? Roboco only streams once a week now?

[Anonymous No.]

if the fans don't think that their oshi not streaming is a problem, then there is no problem. you all get what you deserve.

[Anonymous No.]

>>59198070
I don't know about controversial, but he sounds like a faggot so good think he's getting shat on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>59198150
Evidently not, this dumbfuck "fan" doesn't even know that Roboco had to call an ambulance and was hospitalized. She tweeted that 6 days ago and if the dumbfuck actually cared, they can literally just ask the community what happened.

[Anonymous No.]

>>59198070
The cope and seethe Hololive generates from literals who's makes me fan even harder

[Anonymous No.]

>>59198395
You massive retard, everyone is focusing on that while he is talking about the past MONTHS, not the past 5 days.

It's like gura catching a cold 3 days ago somehow excusing the past year of absence. At least Roboco had the decency to tweet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>59198070
There clowning on him because he's a retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>59198070
This is why 2views are superior. You don't become faceless and she never becomes complacent.

[Anonymous No.]

>>59198070
Robosa is this true?

[Anonymous No.]

>>59198470
>tries to shit on and calls out Roboco while she's in the hospital for some of that sweet Holo grift
sasuga 0views!

[Anonymous No.]

people take this talking anime girl puppet show thing way too seriously

[Anonymous No.]

>>59198516
No, they are clowning on him because "The queens don't owe you anything you needy simp"

He is retarded but because he still cares about lazy whores who don't put the minimum effort. Can't even sit down and play games and talk for one hour a week.

[Anonymous No.]

Oh he's ri-
>RBC fan
Bait

[Anonymous No.]

>>59198701
based and checked, just so

[Anonymous No.]

>>59198630
Again retard, that was in the past week. Roboco stopped giving a shit about her audience MONTHS ago.

[Anonymous No.]

Holonormies are retarded

[Anonymous No.]

>>59198070
idk his name makes me believe he is autistic

[Anonymous No.]

>>59198701
He's equating one member that doesn't stream that much to the entire company, he's being a crybaby despite her having a normal schedule a couple weeks ago and thinking that's what every hololive member does. He doesn't give a shit about her he gives a shit about what she gives him.

[Anonymous No.]

>>59198565
She's in the hospital retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>59199108
>he gives a shit about what she gives him.
That should be the case, retard.

And yes this is a huge issue with hololive with many of their biggest members just ghosting and disappearing. They don't really get incentive or a infrastructure to keep going so they just phone it in. Mid level companies or indies put 10 times the effort than modern holos.

[Anonymous No.]

>>59198070
He had me in the first half not gonna lie

[Anonymous No.]

This is a almost 40 year old man with several disabilities (check his streams, he talks about it) that bitches at certain vtubers every few months. He bitched about Prisms Pina once and then about Kawaii's Charzu (both super nice girls without any yabs).
Guy is basically a fucking spergy imbecile.
He recently fell down the stairs because the nerves in his legs are so fucked up that it made him miss a step or something so he just tumbled down. Which is nice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>59199255
>check his streams
No? wtf anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>59198070
this is why shitter users usually only vaguely hint at what they're mad at

[Anonymous No.]

>>59199255
>"Wow he complained the hololive girls don't even care to stream once a month, I'm glad he is disabled for life!!"

Fucking kek you assholes love simping and being evil.

[Anonymous No.]

>>59198070
actually it's good when your oshi doesn't stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>59198070
probably because she is like gigasick

[Anonymous No.]

>>59199108
>He doesn't give a shit about her he gives a shit about what she gives him.
ergo,
>your content is no longer worth my money
>that's bad to say because reasons

[Anonymous No.]

>>59198070
>doubles down

[Anonymous No.]

>another desperate 1view literal who leeching from hololive with a shit take so he can get shat on and use it to paint himself as a victim and for content
>actually mentally ill
The simple solution to this is to simply ignore the retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>59199470
Holy shit just make a generals, no need to bump and larp

[Anonymous No.]

>>59199437
Again, mouthbreathing retard, that was past week.

Roboco moved to stream to her alt account and stopped caring for months. And holotards cannot even raise a concern without the whole simp army stepping up for their lazy whores.

[Anonymous No.]

>59199211
>59199366
Stop posting here and take your meds Marko.

[Anonymous No.]

>>59199472
I know right? He should definitely write a strongly worded email of disapproval to Cover about this issue and make sure to include his account details so they know he means serious business

[Anonymous No.]

It seems really fucking stupid to criticize tubers especially corpo for not streaming considering how there's absolutely no transparency (due to desire for privacy or otherwise) in most cases
You DON'T KNOW why the girls aren't streaming and guilt-tripping them for it helps nothing. Gura could even still be sick of fuck's sake, who knows? And it's not my position to speculate.

[Anonymous No.]

Another case of anon's falling for retarded bait and somehow also being retarded enough to agree with it, what else is new on /vt/?

[Anonymous No.]

Why do they call him parasocial? Isn't defending the girl no matter what she does more parasocial than caring about the content and whether the streams are worth your money?

[Anonymous No.]

>>59198070
Most holos lazy as fuck and do bare minimum to just receive their paycheck.There is exceptions like Pekora or Korone, but they are a minority.

[Anonymous No.]

>>59199644
Look I know this is bait and OP is just bumping to keep it alive in the hopes of shitstirring some drama but considering Robocosan is never going to see this thread I just want to see if OP will live up to his potential

[Anonymous No.]

>>59199470
based he's content farming some holoseethe

[Anonymous No.]

>>59199636
>And it's not my position to speculate.
Why the fuck not? What makes people to decide to become streamers but not stream?

[Anonymous No.]

>>59199561
She's been streaming too much either way in the last 5 months. Can you believe it! 78 YT streams in the LAST 5 MONTHS? WTF, I was promised a stream a week. It's not even a year yet and she's already streamed more than 52 times!

[Anonymous No.]

This reminds me of what happened not too long ago with that derpy, retarded looking guy who shat on FWMC. Wouldn't be surprised if this Marko faggot is the one who created this thread too. It certainly seems like he's posting in this thread.

[Anonymous No.]

He's almost as retarded as rev says desu
Showing anger or guilting someone for not working enough for whatever reason is kinda embarrassing desu

[Anonymous No.]

>>59199656
Yes, but the people making those arguments aren't smart enough to realize that.
See >>59199636
They are content to throw their money down a hole to maintain the illusion even when they no longer enjoy the content they pay for, or in some cases don't even get content.

[Anonymous No.]

>>59199636
If you give me a youtube membership I promise to stream once a month and constantly gaslight you into believing I'm coming back <3

[Anonymous No.]

>>59198070
It's fine to post that here or on your blog but not on your twitter tagging the girl.

[Anonymous No.]

>>59199890
>rev says desu
>posts desu
rev chama?!?

[Anonymous No.]

>>59199770
It's not like there's enough roboco fans to defend her so I'd say OP's got his work cut out for him.

[Anonymous No.]

>>59199830
because they could be off for any number of reasons and I don't and will never know without prying deeply into their identities

Also if you have no faith in a streamer returning to normal just quit subbing but going on a retarded Twitter rant without any information is dumb

[Anonymous No.]

>>59199983
Why not? Who wrote in the rules "My fair maiden shall not be tagged or mentioned in any way, my precious princess"

[Anonymous No.]

Roboco has ben hospitalized for like a week now...

[Anonymous No.]

>>59200042
The way the idiot talks is like Roboco hates her fans, which is bullshit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>59200097
Lmao again with the same thing, we are talking about past months or years.

[Anonymous No.]

>>59200042
Because it's cringe? I'd understand if she was collabing with males or something but she's just taking a break.

[Anonymous No.]

Holonormies

[Anonymous No.]

This is what you get when you put all your eggs in one basket. Watch girls that do stream instead. Learn to move on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>59199108
while not every holo member it would be disingenuous to say its not a lot of them. There are several holos, especially in EN, that consider streaming a low priority despite it being their literal job.

[Anonymous No.]

>>59200160
Oh yeah I forgot women are all excempt from any criticism for any reason ever. Tell me how is your relationship with your mother?

[Anonymous No.]

>>59200097
>>59200131
Besides she's streaming too much. 78 streams in 5 months? Where's my promised 1 stream a week?

[Anonymous No.]

>>59199366
I don't even watch hololive but that guy just deserves to die. He just seems like a pathetic sack of shit overall.

[Anonymous No.]

>>59200160
get outta here you unicorn retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>59200355
Be careful anon pathetic sacks of shit are rampant /here/

[Anonymous No.]

>>59200355
He is pathetic and a sack of shit, but because he hasn't realized supporting people who don't give a shit about their audience is bad.

People gotta cut their loses, not have feelings for streamers and move on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>59200131
I just looked at her streaming the past few months. She has some gaps of like a few days - a week sometimes but other than that it's nowhere near as bad as this Marko faggot and you (you're probably Marko) are trying to make it out to be. She has streamed more in the last couple of months than Gura and Ayame combined this year. Imagine bitching about not getting a stream for a week max every now and then. Kill yourself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>59200097
Damn which roboco fan fucked her and why did they fuck her so hard

[Anonymous No.]

>>59198070
Your fault for having a cock sucking oshi, all the shit, bad work ethics and drama in hololive comes from those bitchs

[Anonymous No.]

I do agree it feels like it's all nonstop idol meetings and rehearsals and shit lately but turning it around and saying roboco abandoned her fanbase is a faggot move

[Anonymous No.]

>>59200445
It's almost like people will exaggerate and make shit up on this board just to cause arguments

[Anonymous No.]

>>59199636
reminder that youtube literally has a requirement that channels must do membership content once every 3 months or they lose membership privileges. Even youtube doesn't want to support lazy creators grifting their viewers

[Anonymous No.]

>>59199366
t. Wheels taking a break from his five millionth Gura thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>59198070
this guy is a well known schizo. disregard and ignore

[Anonymous No.]

>>59200811
I predict dramatubers are gonna pick this up and run with it. Easy money.

[Anonymous No.]

>>59198453
If you want seethe read the reply’s to his tweet

[Anonymous No.]

>>59199636
Gura is sick (but well enough to fly to Japan), there's a family illness and she hates streaming. All three of these are true.

[Anonymous No.]

>>59198070
It's fucking over, if it wasn't for advent the en branch would be dead.
I miss my wife...

[Anonymous No.]

>>59199636
Everyone has problems, there's no justification for Gura fucking off for weeks while most holos stream several times a week, they don't own you nothing, but you don't own them nothing too, including respect

[Anonymous No.]

>>59200998
That's true, without the views that Advent brought holoEN would be in a very dire spot. I don't even want to remember the drought from 6 months back. Only a couple of streams and the girls with zero energy just zombing on the screen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>59198070
let me guess, people call him entitled? putting any sort of expectation on a woman is considered a hate crime for some reason

[Anonymous No.]

This train of thought falls apart when you directly compare hololive members to other hololive members. How can Koyori stream 40 times more than Laplus if they are both so busy with hololive management required stuff? Also lmao how he put himself above other because he streams.

[Anonymous No.]

>>59201165
If this guy didn't have a history of sperging out on some of the nicest girls ever for no reason, maybe people would have a point. He is just a sad sad little man in his 30's sperging out about vtubers for clout.

[Anonymous No.]

>>59201248
>sperging out on some of the nicest girls ever for no reason

There is never good enough reason for you people. They could directly shit on your face and you would be like "Well maybe she had a bad day and her tummy hort..."

[Anonymous No.]

>>59201205
Checked this guy's stream schedule and it's like one a week. If I were one of his three viewers I'd feel very displeased and betrayed with his stream output.

[Anonymous No.]

>>59200264
not even streaming, but communicating. Fauna, Ame, Gura, Ina, and IRyS have basically dropped off the face of the earth for days to weeks with literally no word from them. And that is just EN, this is endemic across Hololive as a whole and its only getting worse.

[Anonymous No.]

>>59201205
This would be true if they all had the same grinding mentality, but the moment you get instant success there's lots of people who fall back and do the bare minimum, principles if they're women, in their first year most of them do their best, but after that lots fall back and just want the money and e-celeb interaction

[Anonymous No.]

>>59201205
people with fake jobs love to make their job sound so much harder than it is

[Anonymous No.]

>>59201318
Hi Marko. Kill yourself heh

[Anonymous No.]

>>59201379
How dare you expect him to stream more don't you know he has a family illness also he streams foe multiple hours. You're a incel.

[Anonymous No.]

>>59201205
>thinks 24/7 about his 1-2view channel
yeah not surprising he is seething and now also leeching

[Anonymous No.]

>>59201248
Is this your fist time engaging with hototards? There's always a reason why any criticism is "bad" or "undeserved" or "hypocritical".

[Anonymous No.]

>>59198070
I'm very much willing to bet this thread and most of the replies are the 0vuew in the pic himself.
Not even trying to be subtle, huh buddy?

[Anonymous No.]

>>59200536
I was checking member by member and really most of the problems came from the ones that collab with males, pretty impressive kek

[Anonymous No.]

for about 90% of that post, i thought this was an ex-chumbud.

[Anonymous No.]

>>59201720
It's pretty obvious which posts are him.

[Anonymous No.]

>>59201720
He's playing the twitter users for ragebait and the 4chan users for pity bait. Truly a genius of his craft.

[Anonymous No.]

This has to be a troll post everyone thought he was talking about Gura

[Anonymous No.]

Holo is in the gutter
Still won't watch indies tho

[Anonymous No.]

>>59201205
He's obviously doing this for attention and it's working. This won't make the retard successful tho. At the end of the day he'll still be a 1view, maybe 2view at most, and he will perpetually seethe.

[Anonymous No.]

>>59199255
Disabled people make the craziest antis.

[Anonymous No.]

>>59201848
I'm farming (you)s so I'm one of them

[Anonymous No.]

>>59201427
It's really noticeable too with Fauna since she used to tell her fana that she was going on a month long break or whatever but now she doesn't even bother. So much for her vaunted professionalism. IRyS is the most annoying because she has the most autistic gosling simps who come out of the woodwork to scream about her always being sick, always 'going to the hospital', dying grandma, recordings, seeing her relatives etc. etc. it's infinite excuses to cover for the fact she just doesn't care. Her sister is a doctor and she's a neet turned singer because she was never a striver or even playing some "slow and steady" game, just a dumb lazy bitch who made 1 million dollars and now doesn't give a fuck. AzKi has the same workload for comparison. Ame is always holier than thou in her own mind, Gura clearly stopped caring when she realized she was 'rich enough' and Ina is just kind of baffling, since art isn't worth that much. I guess we're still not at the phase of AI where all the fanartists and pornartists who were commissioned to make My OC getting fucked by Futa Miko from Hololive are not yet broke enough.

[Anonymous No.]

its like the robosas here have collectively forgotten that roboco yab

[Anonymous No.]

>>59198070
He's 100% right but it's not hololive in general, just some of the girls.

Stop membering.
Haachama wouldn't have taken so long of a break if she didn't have memberships to make passive income.

Superchat only.
And only superchat to the girls that dedicate to superchat reading streams.

[Anonymous No.]

>>59198070
As a real Robosa I can say that this cocksucking faggot is not an actual Roboco fan and should go kill himself

[Anonymous No.]

>>59199255
>>59200355
I get you fags are getting defensive because your queens are being criticized, but can you not call for people to be hurt over nothing, it makes you look incredibly embarrassing to the rest of the fanbase

[Anonymous No.]

>>59198070
because Roboco is literally dying sick and he is either A: A faggot anti trolling over someone being sick or B: an extreme EOP who cant even google translate or read other people's translations and who chooses to be a whiny retard about it

[Anonymous No.]

>>59199636
>It seems really fucking stupid to criticize tubers
stop being a cuck, this is cuck mentality, these girls have to earn their money

[Anonymous No.]

>>59202187
the brain smoothens out along with the disability.

[Anonymous No.]

>>59203286
We get it Marko you wasted your money but you don't need to make a thread to exclaim how butthurt you are about it you can move on.

[Anonymous No.]

You aren't owed anything. Stop whining and fuck off.

[Anonymous No.]

>>59198070
started reading this and thought he was talking about gura

[Anonymous No.]

>>59203622
>>59201011

[Anonymous No.]

Reminder that anime waifus are without reproach. if you criticize anything they do, you're an anti and you should die. if you expect anything for your money, you're an anti and you should die. if you demand of them to do the bare minimum, you're an anti and you should die. if you doubt anything they say, you're an anti and you should die

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>59198070
I see some supports as well

[Anonymous No.]

>>59204308
Jesus

[Anonymous No.]

>>59204110
The funniest part is that the anime girl avatar is genuinely the main line of defense, most people on 4chan would call these girls worthless whores if they did all the same shit but as their 3D selves fleshstreaming

[Anonymous No.]

>>59204110
This but unironically.

[Anonymous No.]

>>59204110
sorry but vtubers arent anime. At least anime airs an episode at least once a week

[Anonymous No.]

>>59198070
>Robosa
Deserved, she isn't funny, she isn't smart, she doesn't work hard yet she wants to suck cock, her being one of the runts is a given

[Anonymous No.]

>>59204462
Bet the people complaning about lack of streams would be more offended than the simps tho.

[Anonymous No.]

>>59198701
>No, they are clowning on him because "The queens don't owe you anything you needy simp"
There is a middle ground between simping for a giant corporation and ranting at vtubers. Cover is running a business and it has been obvious that many of their own employees don't like modern Hololive. The coomerbait MVs, swimsuit events, and GFE merch panders to unicorns. Management than turns around and encourages talents to join HoloPro events. Cover does a lot of things which could burn out their vtubers so it's more complicated than being an indie.

[Anonymous No.]

>>59198070
Roboco wasn't even around during the 6th Anniversary stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>59202783
>>59201427
And that's it exactly. People will call you an anti and shit but hololive has a problem where the talents literally fuck off for weeks at a time and nobody bats an eye. People /here/ call them out for it but even then half this thread is people going
>My oshi is infallible and this guy sucks he's just a seething 2view
It's cool that hololive makes people seethe but it'd be cooler if I could oshi someone without wondering how long it'll be before they start going a month without so much as even tweeting

[Anonymous No.]

>>59198070
>one stream a week
this nigga is eating well, he doesn't know what real struggle is

[Anonymous No.]

>>59198070
Why are Robocofans like this

[Anonymous No.]

>>59199255
oh the pina schizo. Kinda weird seeing people defending the dude here when he just faked that he was going kill himself for attention a few weeks ago and it's back as if nothing happened because nobody cared.

[Anonymous No.]

>Anything other than complete rolled over subservience and 100% agreement with everything the talent states, is anti'ng

I remember a time when we mocked /jp/ openly for this level of beta male yes-manning

[Anonymous No.]

>>59198070
Hololive vtubers:
>cya

[Anonymous No.]

>>59198070
Check her twitter she is hospitalized

[Anonymous No.]

>>59198070
THANKS GURA
THANKS AYAME

but also I mean, can you blame them. Just do what this guy does (minus the bitching about it on X nobody cares)

[Anonymous No.]

>>59200722
>channels must do membership content once every 3 months or they lose membership privileges.
Completely false.

[Anonymous No.]

>>59199366
youre on 4chan

[Anonymous No.]

>>59206370
Even outside of that it's been months without regular streams and many other members don't have an excuse

[Anonymous No.]

>>59207441
What is a regular stream to you? Cause I've checked multiple holo's, even EN's, and they seem too all be streaming pretty regularly. Roboco had been doing regular streaming pretty damn consistently before her hospitalization. Where is this months without regular streams coming from?

[Anonymous No.]

>>59206566
Nta but its not membership content it's just content, if you don't post anything for 3 months then YouTube cancels membership

[Anonymous No.]

>>59207441
>Even outside of that it's been months without regular streams
I went and counted every stream she's done so far this year out of curiosity besides members streams since I'm not a member.
22 streams in January.
16 streams in February.
15 streams in March.
16 streams in April.
16 streams in May.
12 streams in June.
19 streams in July.
12 streams in August.
That seems pretty fucking regular and consistent to me besides June and August which had 3-4 streams less than normal. Sometimes she bursts for a few days, sometimes several streams in one day, and sometimes she has a few gaps between streams. Just how many streams per month is "regular" to you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>59204308
That last name sounds familiar. Probably a long time viewer.

[Anonymous No.]

Miko is my oshi. When she was sick, she would often give news about her, every week she would send a handwritten letter to 35p. I don't know about Gura, RBC or anybody else, but I believe there's something off if they don't send any updates in a one week spam, if they do however send anything to update their status to their fans, then complainers should go fuck themselves. That's my two yens about it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>59198070
not really wrong he just sounds like a bitch

[Anonymous No.]

>>59198333
>Roboco only streams once a week now?
Her last streams were on 24 (Aug) -> 29 -> 30 -> 06 (Sep) -> 08 -> 09 (New outfit) -> 16.
Plenty of HoloJP members have / had their breaks from streaming (both long and short ones) due to health issues or non-streaming related activities (recordings, meeting, etc.).
It's just a lot less obvious than EN or ID because there are enough members to fill the gap
>>59198470
>everyone is focusing on that while he is talking about the past MONTHS, not the past 5 days.
Except that wasn't the case. She streamed publicly on her channel (not counting collab on other channels or mengen) 13 times in Aug, 19 times in Jul and 15 times in Jun. Those weren't "once a week"

[Anonymous No.]

>>59201427
When the fuck did IRyS "drop off the face of the earth for days to weeks" without any word prior and / or during said period?

[Anonymous No.]

>>59198070
He's not wrong, but the timing of his tweet is godawful considering who he's complaining about.

[Anonymous No.]

>>59199708
Lazy whores as well like Amonrauth whores. Holocucks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>59200244
Neck yourself normalfaggots cum eating cuckolds. E-celebs normies. Kiwifarms niggerfaggots are worse cancer than numbertrannies and basedjaktrannies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>59201379
>comparing a hobbyist to people making six figures off streaming
Why are Holo-stans consistently embarassing?

[Anonymous No.]

am glad for the EN content drought, gave me a chance to check out phase girls and they're great

[Anonymous No.]

>parasocial
vtuber fans learning about this word has been a disaster for the hobby

[Anonymous No.]

>cancels his memberships because they don't put out content as frequently as they previously did
sounds reasonable, if this was for any other youtuber then few would have a problem with this

[Anonymous No.]

>>59212962
I can count in one hand the times that word was used correctly

[Anonymous No.]

>>59198070
Weird

[Anonymous No.]

>>59210212
got it, never say anything bad ever. you might say it at the wrong time

[Anonymous No.]

Wasn’t roboco the one that got hospitalized recently?

[Anonymous No.]

>>59212962
faggots watched a Ludwig video and now use it for anything anytime ever

[Anonymous No.]

>>59208506
not even remotely true.

[Anonymous No.]

>>59203286
Get better content and maybe people will watch you Hotweels Marko

[Anonymous No.]

>>59199255
>several disabilities
he should kill himself then

[Anonymous No.]

Once a week is more than my oshi...

[Anonymous No.]

>>59198070
thought it was another complaint about my oshi. Oh well, back to BG3.
That guy has a mental illness and can't see that he's gotten too personal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>59198070
If your oshi has been streaming for 2 years or more they're probably burnt out. Everyone thinks streaming is an awesome job but nearly everyone hates it after a while. Jacksepticeye and Markiplier were the top streamers on Youtube, but now one of them is retired and the other went menhera.

[Anonymous No.]

>>59199108
>He doesn't give a shit about her he gives a shit about what she gives him.
And that's bad because...? There is a level of understanding where you excuse less/shorter streams when you know the holo is busy with idol stuff, or sick, especially when she communicates that, but at some point you just want then to fucking stream. Otherwise what's the point?

[Anonymous No.]

>>59198070
This retard has been seething about hololive and antying every single girl, daily
Holy rent free

[Anonymous No.]

Hey I know this guy, he was in the GGN discord back when that was an active discord, I once check his channel out of curiosity because he seemed like a decent person.

Spoiler, he's not, he's an autistic person he was always trying to create drama and making apology videos, then privating vods, and weird stuff like that, he's probably just autistic, but still.

Don't pay attention to him.

[Anonymous No.]

>>59213928
TL;DR, If you are wondering read >>59217040, and for context, the last week of GGN, the sister were following everyone who replied to one of her tweets, take it as a parting gift. I made a twitter just for this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>59204308
Imagine if these folks actually unsubscribed. Cover would slightly care more if thousands of subs and merch buyers just called it quits but alas they’re too optimistic

[Anonymous No.]

>>59217192
>greys
>buying merch
lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>59216663
>And that's bad because...?
It's not bad per se. Roboco doesn't stream as much as he wants? Fair enough. He should've just cancelled his membership and left it at that instead of bitching publicly about it for attention though.
>but at some point you just want then to fucking stream
Here's where the problem begins. There's this misconception going on in this thread, not necessarily by you, whether intentional or not that Roboco never streams. That's just plain wrong. Any retard can go to HoloStats and check her streams this year and see that while she doesn't have as high of an output as other Holos it's not like she never streams. She's actually fairly consistent, which is why it doesn't make any sense why the retard is sperging until you find out that he's mentally ill and does this shit regularly.
What makes it even more funny is that he claims to be a Robosa but is still complaining that she hasn't streamed enough the past two weeks even though she's been in the hospital since the 18th. You'd think a robosa would know that she's in the hospital when there are people who aren't even members that know.

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>>59198070
His take is not controversial, some members are just too busy to stream nowaday. What is controversial is the way he said it

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>>59198070
Galoomba would nEVER

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>>59198701
anon...
The guy is a literal schizo nijinigger who thinks niji and vshojo are > holo and continuously antiposts about them on twitter
Nobody really cared because he's a literal who, but now he's falseflagging as a Robosa who apparently doesn't even read his own oshi's twitter posts, and this colossal level of retardation simply made everyone want to shit on him even harder.

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>>59203286
Markochama, read your own oshi's twitter next time before sperging about her not streaming

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>>59218275
didnt she also stream a ton of valo on twitch this year?

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>>59219275
Yes, but twitch doesn't count

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dude is currently live he cant put 1 sentence together

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>>59200489
It's worse, I tripped and spilled a glass of water on her and she short circuited....

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>>59198070
Location: Jakarta, Indonesia

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>>59199830
Because the content is literally free - only retarded consumerist Muricans have the perception that donation-based content is an equivalent exchange between the fans and content, thanks to Patreon and Patreon rewards poisoning that well.

Mengens happen like once a week or even once a month for most Holos, and some holos don't do mengen content at all - so it's basically just for the stickers to spam in chat.
You can watch literally all of their content for free, but because the option to donate to them, member them or buy their merch exists, braindead muricans think that it has to work like Patreon - i.e. they pay memberships in exchange for the content.
But that's never been the case in this instance, since 90% of all Holo content is free, and donations etc. are completely voluntary.

Kay Yu is a savvy mofo who knows this dynamic. Imagine if he had a donation page for Holocure, these retards would poison his game and cause him to lose motivation to make it because retards would be spamming "update when", "we're paying you so chop chop" etc.
The fuckers who go "LET ME PAY YOUUU" are in reality asking for control over the game. As things stand now, the game is COMPLETELY free with zero donations, so they have absolutely no moral ground to whine about updates even if they want to.

Of course this is the same for Holo content as well, but just the existence of the donation system means that there'll be retards like the one in OP who think this system is an exchange of money for content.

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>>59198070
Western community is very individualistic, yass queen slayy

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>>59199636
>considering how there's absolutely no transparency
All the continuous excessive secrecy on what they do in both work and private life, and specially when they're doing one or the other was a truly genius move.
It allows the chuubas to be lazy as fuck while their fans think they're extremely busy.
You know, they're doing "projects" and "recordings" so they couldn't stream at all this month and you will forget it was just a 5 minutes appearance when it was released.

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>>59219611
>it's optionnal
and theyre dependant on the people who chose that option to make money, retard. and they need the most people as possible to support them and you dont convince a lot of people if you dont do anything special or dont even bother streaming. how many times do we need to explain that greys dont amount to shit until you retards understand?

Your arguments are fucking shit. Kay Yu has other ways to make money, he made a fan game for free by choice, good for him. Streaming is literally these girls' WORK and theyre not doing it, so yeah people are gonna drop membership and other forms of support.

you are absolutely braindead

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>>59220146
>Kay Yu has other ways to make money
And those Hololive Vtubers don't? What are merchs? What if they actually have side jobs?

See, retard? This is why you DON'T SPECULATE!

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>>59198070
The way he words his paragraph sets a bad precedent.. also
>please marry me roboco
Is pretty much the reason why he's like this

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>>59220346
There are 2views that stream 5 days a week, who also work full time. Your cope is pathetic.

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>>59198070
I don't think it should matter whether they have member content or not, if you like your oshi you member even if she doesn't produce member content, however if she is lazy overall, I don't think you should give her a member(get it lol).

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>>59220576
Then fuck off and go watch those 2 views! EZ, problem solved!

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>>59199255
the fact that he listed "doesn't do ASMR anymore" as a negative is proof his thoughts on vtuber activities is worthless and laughable to even consider.

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>>59220502
he's not even a robosa

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>>59220146
> and they're dependant on the people who chose that option to make money
true
> they need the most people as possible to support them
false
Even back in 2018-19 when Holos had like 1k viewers, they were still making enough money to do 3D content. This is the reason small corpos are still in business, or why Free to Play games work. There will be a few people who are ultra dedicated and support their oshi by voluntarily buying everything they can.
> you dont convince a lot of people if you dont do anything special or dont even bother streaming
^ see this? This is the murican brainrot I was talking about. Always thinking MOREMOREMOREMROEMROEMROEMROERMEOREMORE MONEYMOENYEMONEYMONEYEYEYEY and then projecting those feelings onto others and getting angry on their behalf.

Donations are COMPLETELY voluntary. It's not like Patreon where almost every content is paywalled, or kickstarters where you need to see progress regularly to know whether or not your investment is worth it. 90% of streams are free content. This is not an EXCHANGE of money for content. I'll spell it out for you - V O L U N T A R Y.
> people are gonna drop membership and other forms of support.
If you're one of these types that donate, sure you can always just stop paying. But I guarantee you, absolutely fucking nothing will change - you oshi's not gonna magically put out more content just because you left. In fact, this is how the majority of fans consume their content - without paying.
It's only gonna matter if you're a literal groomer who makes up more than 30% of her income - and at that point your oshi and her fanbase has far bigger problems.
And if you're NOT one of these donators, then your opinion is worthless. The relationship between a donator and the creator is between them. People have different reasons for paying, and generally don't care why others pay or not pay. It's not your place to lecture others on how they spend their money.
> inb4 the guy in the OP did just that
The guy in the OP is getting shit on because he's just an asshole, because he dropped his oshi after she got hospitalized and literally couldn't stream, and then proceeded to project that onto the entirety of Hololive despite him not even watching that many holos.

For a counter example, see Jin Teramachi. He was a huge onigiriya and translator who publicly dropped Okayu because her content started becoming more and more lewd.
People were like "aight, cool" and it ended there. Okayu didn't change her content just for him, and still has many people watching and donating to her.
Nobody gives a shit.

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>>59198070
just move on. also have several oshis. i wont blame gashis and unicorns but that is one of their flaws. its better to enjoy many members as entertainment.

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>>59221006
My bad, he's just a schizo then

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>>59198070
Regardless of whether or not anything he's saying is valid, he's clearly an "independent vtuber", and you shouldn't be expressing such personal, emotional views after you decide to take up being a vtuber. You're an entertainer, stop giving your audience complaints to read.
No one like to hear complaints.

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>>59219611
>it's free so you can't complain about it
This is why I'm about to drop Linux.

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>>59220576
And they stay 2views for a reason. One I follow has a not-so-common niche but was good enough, and whaddya know? She made partner and mid-3view within 6 months.

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>>59219126
What a pathetic worm. This guy DESPERATELY wants to be one of those vtuber drama/news guys. You can tell what his motives are because he always tries to stir shit up and attaches himself onto some drama, even if it meant creating some on his own (I have 4 examples of him doing that already).
This faggot plays the sympathy card super hard too. He is apparently all kinds of disabled, so we're supposed to feel bad for him, but then he acts like a complete piece of shit and uses his disabilities as a shield.

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>>59222944
It’s called being special needs.
Special needs on being a dick. Such cases can be seen all around this place

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>>59200042
She might get sad anon!

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>>59198070
Talk shit and expect to get shit back. It's fine to state your opinion like this, but expect to get some responses as well. Or is he a faggot whos playing victim cause it's okay for him to state his opinion but it's not okay to respond with your own? Don't make it public then retard, if he complains about backlash on fucking twitter, hes more retarded than anyone else in this thread by far. What planet have you been living on? That's all twitter is for, dumbass.

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>>59198070
>entire post has a purely negative and defeatist tone
>introduction consists of clichéd, annoying phrases "I really hate the direction [...] is going. [...] says a lot."
>middle part suddenly makes it about him (why should we care about HIS memberships in particular?) and the "because there's no point" doesn't go over well because it implies he doesn't member to support his oshi and purely does it to get membership stuff in return
>final part is a list of complaints about how everything is worse than before, finishing it all with an obvious bait for an emotional reaction ("abandoned" etc.)
It's not his take that's the problem, it's the tone. It's not worded as a reasonable complaint, it just comes across as whining. On top of that, stupid timing, see >>59200097. Of course he's getting clowned on.

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>>59219126
>would pick Niji over Holo
diagnosis: severe brain damage