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60753263 No.60753263 [Reply] [Original]

>So yeah, so I'm definitely feeling very blessed... and it makes creating project really easy, and really fun.
It's mind-boggling to me, as rich as Nijisanji is, it can't provide quality staff to help out the talents.

>> No.60753306
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niji mismanagement, who could possibly believe that?

>> No.60753310

Niji accelerated itself so much that the Manager/Talent ratio has dropped significantly, and you know that the managers aren't paid enough for this shit show.

>> No.60753337

>>60753310
Then where's the money go?

>> No.60753345
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>>60753337

>> No.60755455

>>60753263
WTF this is her actual new design?? A fucking roach??
Give me kitsune or give me death aaaaa

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>>60755455
no, the cock stays

>> No.60755510

>>60753263
Competent managers cost, the same goes for yachts, and those are more important

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>>60755455
Death it is

>> No.60756152
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>>60753263
be quiet you traitor

>> No.60756189

>>60753337
I need my yacht, anon-kun

>> No.60758157

>>60756152
YAGOO > RIKU

>> No.60759339

>>60756152
He looks like a forgotten tekken character

>> No.60763228

What a nice way to pile onto the negativity of her old friends and make them even more down than they already are having to create a positive environment while the entire vtuber community shits on them

>> No.60766481

>>60763228
As she should

>> No.60766836

>>60763228
It is entirely to her friends' benefit that she points this out

>> No.60768557

>>60755455
I'm just happy she didn't pick brown/black as her color scheme. The pink really takes my mind off of "roach" and puts it onto some lusty fantasy creature.

>> No.60768718

>>60763228
>having to create a positive environment
They're not forced to work for Nijisanji.
>entire vtuber community shits on them
Misleading, considering the difference between beloved livers and reviled (upper) management. If you want to shield the livers from criticism, reinforce that divide.

>> No.60768966

>>60763228
I mean what do you want her to do? Is she not allowed to ever talk about enjoying any aspect of being in Vshojo because it makes the previous company she worked for look bad? Is henya shitting on her previous company every time she mentions something positive about Vshojo as well?

>> No.60769172

>>60763228
Realizing that they are in an company that has no interest in their well being will ultimately be good for them.

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>>60753263
Meanwhile...

>> No.60771870

>>60753263
>as rich as Nijisanji is, it can't provide quality staff to help
your first mistake is thinking any company that makes this much profit gives a fuck about staff or helping. why should any of the girls get support when it can to go to fund a second yacht?

>> No.60771895

>>60753345
Wrong, it's 2%, get your facts checked.

>> No.60772288

>>60756152
>What makes us sad is that even though we were able to manifest their abilities as a VTuber, they decide to quit.
Not only does that invalidate the second half by basically saying "Fuck you, you'd be nothing without us" this faggot is implying that all the talent the tubers have is because of kurosanji... What a fucking roach.

>> No.60772359

>>60772288
>roach
Heh

>> No.60772448

>>60768966
Sisters would say yes. The fact that dude said he was excited to get his play button and that it had been a dream of his sense he was a kid was enough to set off the NSDF

>> No.60772477

>>60771767
I gander nijijp is less fucked than nijien

>> No.60772540

>>60772477
Depends, you wanna get fired over a beanball joke?

>> No.60772814

>>60772288
Ignoring the fact that it's a shit translation, nijisanji has a lot of people that probably would've never become vtubers otherwise, so that's not really wrong. Even more true now with VTA

>> No.60772972

>>60753263
I honestly expected Nina to be better than do the whole "shit on your previous workplace to get sympathy on the new one" but oh well, this also sounds like the same shit kson used to say and we sure saw the results of all that "talent freedom", I can't wait to see what amazing projects the evil nijisanji never helped her on

>> No.60773474

>>60772448
That's genuinely unfortunate.

>> No.60773666

>>60753263
It has been 1 day what projects is she talking about?

>> No.60773719

>>60772972
>but oh well, this also sounds like the same shit kson used to say and we sure saw the results of all that "talent freedom
Time stamp? If you don't have it, don't even bother to answer.

>> No.60774436

>>60772448
*numberfag falseflaggers

>> No.60775916
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>>60772814
Riku isn't entirely right either. The only reason their company became as big as it is now was because they managed to scoop up some good talents relatively early on, and because they had that "Niji Resistance", which even if it was more lighthearted at least led to some healthy change. It was more of a symbiotic relationship since both grew at around the same time. The same applies to NijiEN, if it wasn't for some talents like Pomu or Selen then the branch ultimately wouldn't have amounted to much. Especially since the first two waves ultimately built a decently sized fanbase for Luxiem to capitalize on.

The main problem that NijiEN is facing right now is that they have no clue how to retain big talents, or they don't seem to have any interest in doing so.

>> No.60776241

>>60753263
>creating project
Lmao, we will see about that.

>> No.60776705

>>60753263
Why allocate EN money to the EN branch, when it can be used for Voltaction's 4th 3D event this month?

>> No.60776902

>>60763228
Good. Most of them deserve every single turd thrown their way. Hopefully they are out one day walking and trip and break their necks from stepping on one of those turds

>> No.60781584

>>60753263
i missed her

>> No.60782993

>>60775916
nina wasn't a big talent lol

>> No.60784848

>>60768557
Yeah. She's more like some magical queen moth/mantis.

>>60763228
Let it be the push they need to leave that godforsaken place. Somebody save Pomu, PLEASE.

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>>60772477
>I gander nijijp is less fucked than nijien
Yes, because even 4chan only shit on EN 99% of the time. NijiJP is thoroughly mediocre. It's not a bad place of work if you're accustomed to Jap company culture in general and especially music industry. Cover is unironically too good in comparison.

>> No.60785395

>>60753263
>as rich as Nijisanji is, it can't provide quality staff to help out the talents
you don't get rich by spending money on your employees

>> No.60785442

>>60755455
COCK THE ROACH

>> No.60785614

>>60763228
Clearly Niji is doing an awful job at it themselves because like Vshoujo in the west got their reps tarnished but they bounced back and are better than ever while Niji is just sitting there continuing with what they're doing, they literally have no plans for EN except to throw in more waves and see if they get a superstar again

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>>60772477
>less fucked
Nijijp livers have the same exact issues like nijien livers.
Look at how kuzu and mito just stagnate, couldn't reach their full potential.
It's really sad to see talented livers just waste their time with company who didn't know how to manage their talents.

>> No.60786145

>>60753263
Remember when Nijifans used to bash on Hololive's financial reports for spending too much on staff compared to theirs? Bragging why they make more? The days they felt they were on top.

>> No.60786194

>>60785808
I think Kuzuha and Mito are just not ambitious enough. They're fine just chilling and streaming and tbf, this was supposed to be what Niji is originally for them

>> No.60786431

>>60786145
Nijifans still do, because Nijifans only care about JP

>> No.60786472

>>60753263
You have to look at it through Riku's eyes:
He is a billionaire. That is One Thousand Million. Why should he spare one of those, when can keep it for himself?

>> No.60787951

>>60753337
>>60753345
It can't be THAT bad if shekel obsessed Selen is still in Niji

>> No.60788232

>>60775916
>The main problem that NijiEN is facing right now is that they have no clue how to retain big talents

You literally cannot retain big talents if they are offered a better contract, with better pay and an environment they enjoy being in more. Niji used to be the only option for Hololive rejects and men but now there is a ton of options out there as more companies realized that the vtuber business is lucrative and low risk.

>> No.60788414

>anon: I love monster girls I want to fuck monster girls hora hora fluffy tail monster girls
>cockroach: *appears*
>anon: wait no not like that
?

>> No.60788641

>>60753263
Eh, why should I as a company invest on shitters who can't bring numbers. Go join hololive or something

>> No.60788749

>>60753263
This >>60771870
Corporations never make a profit unless they either A. Grow significantly, or B. Fuck over their employees. It's usually B. All to appease corporate shareholders who seek infinite growth regardless of how sustainable that is.
Imagine if I told someone I'd pay them 1 dollar to cook me an edible egg. Then 2 dollars to cook 2 eggs the next day, 3 dollars to cook 3, and so on. Eventually it will reach a point where no matter how intelligent or talented you are you physically can not cook more eggs but they will keep asking for it anyway.

>> No.60788781
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60788781

>Leaves 2434
>Happier
Many such cases.

>> No.60788851

>>60788414
Monster girls are not created equal, Anon.
Did you actually fap to those grotesque horrors in Plantsect village in Monster Girl Quest?

>> No.60788880

>>60763228
nina intentionally meant to damage nijisanji

>> No.60789933

>>60788851
Hornet Girl is sex

>> No.60791536

>>60788851
coward

>> No.60792047

>>60785808
Kuzuha is golden child though. He was protected where Gundou wasn't, when both of them are equally problematic.

>> No.60792343

>>60788414
“I want thing” implies you want that thing to be good.

>> No.60793034

>>60753263
How much projects has she made?

>> No.60793588

NijiEn can rot in hell but what project has she accomplished in Vshojo? Is she waffling?

>> No.60793743

>>60793588
She just debuted 3 days ago

>> No.60796561

>>60763228
It is entirely within the talents' best interests that we continue to shed light on how Nijisanji is failing them.

>> No.60796749

>>60793588
Shes already scheduled for appearances at twitchcon and shes not even a week old

>> No.60796812

>>60788781
>luna was a niji
Really? QRD did they fuck her over too?

>> No.60798091

>>60793588
For one thing, she already has an original song with an MV in the works, said it should be out this month or the next.

>> No.60798347

>>60796812
yamiyono moruru was a vtuber and is therefore on topic for this board

>> No.60800394

>>60798091
>Enna has like 4 originals and 6 or so covers, Reimu has 4 covers, millie has 3 originals and like 4+ covers

>> No.60801823

>>60800394
All of them are shit sadly.

>> No.60801918

>>60788851
>he didn't fap to the silkworm girl
Cringe

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>>60800394
>Kiara gets so many originals she made an album
>Mori has a hundred originals and a record deal with Universal Music

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_Q8hB7v6qw

>> No.60802912

>>60800394
Oh sorry I guess I'm talking to a fucking infant with no reading comprehension or object permanence. She debuted THREE DAYS ago. Ethyria's been around for like 2 years. These are not the same.

>> No.60803493

>>60802161
Quality over quantity, I thought Holobros would understand this concept.

>> No.60803556

>>60755455
Gay. Insect monster girls are great.

>> No.60803574

>>60803493
Speaking of "quality"
Can any of them match this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QI96hnhcr2E

>> No.60803844

>>60782993
no one in nijien is a big talent when you look at the numbers

>> No.60804409

>>60772972
>and we sure saw the results of all that "talent freedom".
I admit I never watched coco (or kson for that matter), but kson is not only part of a widely beloved vtuber organization with a stellar lineup, she is seen as one of the main drivers of what makes the company beloved in the first place. How exactly are you going to assail a position that strong?

>> No.60804435

>>60788851
>>60792343
GTFO disgusting normalfags

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>>60753263
>talents.
Sorry holofag your attempt at dividing and conquer won't work since you already spilled your load with Mysta/Kuro, both fanbases are aware of your jewry.

>> No.60806737

>>60796812
IIRC she felt isolated within her wave ON TOP OF the rest of the Niji BS. Been a long time since I cared, so I might be wrong. Maybe a Lunaito can correct me.

>> No.60807451

>>60805458
NTA, but I like how niji deflection is just "HAHA, you watch Hololive I bet." as apposed to addressing the point at hand.

>> No.60807778

>>60803493
I saw lotsa quality from Hologirls lol

>> No.60812107

>>60753263
Imagine being manager that manage things for the person you were hired to manage?

>> No.60812581

>>60756152
Why does he always reek of Wishdotcom Kaiba vibes in comparison to other CEOs. I swear to God, wherever he's mentioned or shown, he always has that look.

>> No.60812674

So I was never a regular watcher of Nina's streams, any numberfags know how she's doing now compared to when she was foxmom?

>> No.60812828

>>60812674
She's doing great right now, but she's still in her debut buff period. Ask again in a couple more weeks.

>> No.60813577

>>60753263
She's so spiteful and I love it rubbing it all over their faces. Fuck you Niji management, take care of your fucking talent, idiots.

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You really have to wonder if it's the talents at all at this point
Being under NijiEN's management itself seems like torture and Matara and Kuro both seem elated whenever I watch them, Matara is practically a different woman now and seems so happy and cozy while she had to walk on eggshells in Niji because of stupid zhangs mad at everything she said

>> No.60813865

>>60753263
the japanese company retardation plays a major part on projects being denied. this also happens in holo, or did you faggots already forgot about coco? no doubt some of the ENs had this trouble too.

>> No.60815744

>>60753263
Its business pal;

>> No.60816712

>>60788641
>Go join hololive or something
Thats not a bad idea

>> No.60816773

>>60763228
For their own sake, they should leave too. (Then again, I don't want their stink to infect other corpos, so perhaps it's better that they stay.)

>> No.60816886

>>60788414
>fluffy tail
Fuck off with that furry shit.

>> No.60817065

>>60753263
They are rich because they skimp on the livers and take most of the profit for themselves. You don't get rich by being ethical.

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