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60853488 No.60853488 [Reply] [Original]

>be Shiori
>instead of going full PARASOCIAL FUCKS CRINGE YOU ALL ARE SHIT I HATE YOU GIVE ME MONEY YOU CRINGE FUCKS she encourages her audience to do self improvement
>instead of going the Ame route of snidely saying backhanding her audience, she tells them to go for walks, eat well, even does entire streams dedicated to how to self improve
>people respond by getting happier and healthier and in the process less parasocial

is there a good reason she's the only person who can do this? You may call me a cynic for this take, but I'm beginning to think lashing out at "le parasocial incels" isn't constructive.

>> No.60853633

She's been a vtuber for a long time she knows what she's doing you fool

>> No.60853694
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60853694

you doubted my abilities?

>> No.60853810

>>60853694
Gomen, manager-sama. I will never doubt you again.

>>60853633
a lot of them have lol. Doesn't stop them from being retarded it seems.

>> No.60853850

>>60853488
She's a hag, full of wisdom

>> No.60853941

>>60853488
she absolutely thinks that first option though, and shes not even that good at hiding it, she somehow sounds as fake if not more than Mori.

>> No.60854204

>>60853488
anything for the money, seem to have worked on you.

>> No.60854317

>>60853941
>>60854204
who cares about the motive if the result is more healthy, well balanced people? If someone loses weight because the trainer only wants money rather than out of genuine care for that person, what's the difference? The weight is still gone and the person is still healthy.

>> No.60854391
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60854391

>still BTFO'd at Ame saying one sentence
this is all i need to know about OP

>> No.60854657

>>60854317
>"result": one anon's opinion
>need Shiori to lie to you in order to improve yourself, too useless to do it on your own.
cringe.

>> No.60854911

>>60853488
FWMC also do this. Advent is nice.
>>60854657
Shockingly the people who will tune into and support anime girls for multiple hours daily will tend to be lonely adult men and positive reinforcement also doesn't hurt people who aren't lonely.

>> No.60855085

>>60854911
>lonely adult men
self projection
>positive reinforcement
literally a lie

>> No.60855261

>>60855085
>literally a lie
what does this mean
you just called a thing that actually exists a lie

>> No.60855394

>>60854911
Advent is such a breath of fresh air. I love the positivity so much.

>>60854657
we all need something. Not everyone is strong enough to pull themselves out of a dark place on their own. Even if she is lying, if someone becomes happy and healthy because of it, what's the issue? Why would you rather someone belittle and chastise this theoretical person and have them only become further entrenched in their attitude? How is being honest and making sure someone stays unhealthy a better alternative?

>> No.60855751

>>60853488
>is there a good reason she's the only person who can do this?
Only in holoEN, because most of them are either full parasocial, have no opinions about it or just straight hate parasocial fans

>> No.60855908

>>60855261
>>60855394
Listen to yourself, both of you sound parasocial as fuck, i don't think it is working to make you any less parasocial or healthy. Not like it will get through to you, you are wholly dependent on Shiori now, good bye you parasocial fucks.

>> No.60855975

What the fuck are you talking about, OP? Everyone has hated Shiori since she debuted.

>> No.60856279

>>60855908
I am the first anon you replied to and I have never ever watched Shiori
your opinions about life and the universe in general are incorrect
your understanding of human relationships and society are based on lies you choose to believe in spite of no meaningful evidence for your positions
your world view is factually incorrect and therefore it is your place to rethink your state as a creature of this earth

>> No.60856293

Novelcucks are more mentally ill by the day. What the fuck are you talking about?

>> No.60856615

>>60855975
>>60856293
only you schizo

>> No.60856635

>>60853488
I don't know why no one else does, but I'm glad they don't.

>> No.60856747

>>60856293
>has been spamming the board for 2 months that she is a "holostar cocksleeve"
>calling anyone else mentally ill
2 more months for that collab sister

>> No.60856757

>>60856615
Any fanbase that judges quality of an entire stream on whether they get kissed at the end, is nothing but cancer.

>> No.60856874

>>60856757
You recognize maybe 10% of her fanbase at best then. Congrats.
Meanwhile there are people that do their reps daily, engage in creative writing or art, encourage those around them and generally try to be pleasant people.

>> No.60856914
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60856914

But can Shiori do this?

>> No.60856932

>I need to be babied or I won't take care of myself
You really are manchildren huh

>> No.60857036

>>60856932
>confusing babying with encouragement
NGMI.

>> No.60857130

>self-improvement
Anyone doing this sort of thing just because some random e-thot with anime avatar told them to will always be a lost cause.

>> No.60857153

>>60856914
This hag doesn't have any right to be this cute, hag correction needed

>> No.60857207

counterpoint: she's cringe as fuck, her voice is grating, and she's a charisma black-hole. also she's fat lel.

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60857262

this thread reeks 2views jealousy who got rejected by Jap sama or twitchwhores

>> No.60857350

>>60857207
But enough about you, sister

>> No.60857412

>>60857262
>picrel
kek

>> No.60857725

>>60853488
She didn't hurt their ego, I guess. People are fickle, especially vtuber "fans" who jump ship at the most innocuous shit. On the other hand, if people are willfully letting Shiori manipulate them, they deserve whatever is coming, no matter what it is.

>> No.60857828

>>60857725
>*fans"
Hello, Rev

>> No.60858615

>>60855908
go back to plebbit

>> No.60858820

>>60856914
god I love that hag

>> No.60859020

>>60853488
Shiori actually knows how to play into this audience.

>> No.60859176

>>60859020
>play
Yeah, those are the ones.

>> No.60859197

>>60855908
stop coming here finana and get into your groomcord already.

>> No.60859370

>>60859197
>groomcord
We know these threads are mandated by our mods.

>> No.60859788
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60859788

>>60853488
Of course it isn't constructive, but they're getting pissed at a particularly entitled, mean, controlling segment of their viewership. They want certain people to fuck off and stop haranguing them. So they lash out.

>> No.60860013

>>60859788
>haranguing
Funny thing is that not all of them see it like that.

>> No.60860741

>>60853488

Shiori fans really are as mentally ill as their oshi, huh?

Obviously, don't lash out at your audience in such an unprofessional way like Finana did, but you shouldn't do what Shiori does either. You're not a therapist, so don't try and carry that burden.

>> No.60860941

>>60853850
lol no, she must be 24-27 tops, still older than me tho

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>>60860741
It has more to do with this little thing called programming, they see themselves in everyone else.

>> No.60861845

>>60860941
>24-27 tops
He doesn't know

>> No.60862656

>>60853488
>>people respond by getting happier and healthier and in the process less parasocial
bur I dont want that...

>> No.60864375

>>60860941
Ha you're funny. Try adding 10 to those estimations

>> No.60865415

>>60857130
it is not your place to say that relief from suffering only counts if it happens under a specific type of mindset
relief from suffering is relief from suffering
in the moment of relief, there is less suffering in the world
you have no right to criticize that exact moment

>> No.60866817

>>60865415
She suggests people how they should be relieved, not everyone needs that or her opinion on entertainment.

>> No.60867027
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60867027

Hololive girls are grifters they'll do anything to pretend they tolerate you as long as it keeps the money rolling in.
Ame had the decency to be upfront about her distaste for her fanbase and offered what she could muster up in encouragement several times to people who are too proud of themselves to ever listen to a woman.
I still love her.

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60867183

>>60853488
>people respond by getting happier and healthier and in the process less parasocial
Have you seen those fuckers? They're falling even deeper in love

>> No.60867217

>>60867027
>her fanbase
You see, to some you're not even a fan if you don't share the same mindset but what you say is exactly what they want from everyone.

>> No.60867268

>>60853488
>self improvement
Wasn't that what Watson said? Improve yourself?

>> No.60867382

>>60867268
Shhh free speech doesn't allow you to say that kind of stuff.

>> No.60867441

>>60860741
Im sorry that my virtual youtube anime idol panders to my specific mental illness? Maybe i should stop being a degenerate who smiles at cute things and I should scream at football players instead like a normal well adjusted person.

>> No.60867440

>>60867268
In a snide, backhanded manner, yeah.

>> No.60867456
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60867456

>>60853488
I LIEK BOTAN SHE IS KITTY

>> No.60867549

>>60853941
>she somehow sounds as fake if not more than Mori.
Both of them are autistic as fuck. They sound fake because they're trying to sound like what they think a normal person sounds like.

>> No.60867628

>>60855908
okay chumbud enjoy your stream...

>> No.60867693

>>60853488
That "please respect my collabs choices" bit really threw people for a loop

>> No.60867819

>>60867693
>everyone thinks she's going to collab with homos and twitch shitters
>actually doesn't collab with anyone besides the weekly Advent collab
Her voice still filters me hard though.

>> No.60867928

most vtubers that try to "own the parasocial fucks" are new to the business and have at least one melty per day trying to understand why they're 2views

>> No.60868015

>>60867819
I don't even like her design and can't understand what people like OP expect to accomplish with threads like this.

>> No.60868060

>>60868015
>can't understand what people like OP expect to accomplish with threads like this.
Fling shit like the monkey they are

>> No.60868113

>>60853488
Kiara is literally the only girl in EN that actually loves her fans and you come up with this fanfiction that is just rationalizing good business

>> No.60868121

>>60868060
kek

>> No.60868131

>>60853488
It helps Mori couldn't give her terrible advice when Shiori was preparing to debut because management banned her from interacting with Advent before the debuted.

>>60853694
Gura is smart.

>> No.60868172

>>60853488
>BLAH BLAH BASELESS BAIT WITHOUT PROOF
yet despite all this Shiori is literally the runt of HoloEN even below Kiara and Bae. LMAO
https://www.youtube.com/@ShioriNovella/streams
https://www.youtube.com/@TakanashiKiara/streams
https://www.youtube.com/@MoriCalliope/streams
https://www.youtube.com/@HakosBaelz/streams
https://www.youtube.com/@WatsonAmelia/streams

>> No.60868227

>>60853488
She learned from her pl that doing that kind of shit will kill your channel especially if you're an indie. That's why she much more unicorn friendly

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>>60855908
>

>> No.60868513

>>60868113
>100$/pop girl
lol
lmao

>> No.60868708

>>60868513
She's a trophy wife

>> No.60869900

>>60853488
>people respond by getting happier and healthier and in the process less parasocial
Then why all the hate on here 24/7?

>> No.60870228

>>60869900
Maybe a better OP would help, someone who follows the example of their oshi like "hey /vt/ Shiori makes self-improvement content, check her out"

>> No.60873469

>>60868113
It never even said in the op that she loves her fans. Why are you getting so upset?

>> No.60874239

>>60853488
Is she projecting or being passive aggressive? Cuz I doubt anyone in chat is blogging about being a loser and soliciting advice.

>> No.60874353

>>60874239
>Cuz I doubt anyone in chat
kek

>> No.60874513

>>60853488
>and in the process less parasocial
I wish you zoomers would stop using this word.
It's abundantly clear you have no idea what it means.

>> No.60874562
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>>60853488
Or maybe Shiori saw Ame's (and the other girls) mistake and told herself she'd wrangle up all those depressed angry virgins and make them her bitches/paypigs by being very nice to them and making them feel cared for? Whether she actually cares or not, she's been doing this for a long time and I'm sure she's seen the drama the girls got themselves into with their own audience and knew better than to make the same mistakes. I don't watch her streams, but she knows what she's doing and I give her props for that. I can bet you the next EN gen will do the same as Shiori and the twins, because they see that's what gets them the most money from their fans.

>> No.60874690

>>60868172
I would say Shiori is in the same lane as Kiara. Both are lowest on views and subs, but they make the most in SC's out of their whole gen.

>> No.60874715

>>60874562
That needs a new slang besides goslinigger.

>> No.60874762

>another Holo vs Holo thread
>still mindbroken by that statement

>> No.60874863

Not even that side wants you OP, what a joke.

>> No.60874871

>>60853488
Bitter, resentful, and emotionally immature.
These qualities are shared by you and many other autistic people worldwide.
What will OP bless us with next, I wonder?

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>>60874863
Unironically what the fuck was he even trying to say
>Ame hates her fans by actively pushing them to lead healthier and more positive lives
That literally makes zero fucking sense. Unless he's trying to false flag as one of shioris fans but that just makes him a double retarded because he said she also pushes her audience to self improve.

>> No.60875460

>>60868113
IRyS loves her fans

>> No.60875486

>>60875291
idk and I still wonder why people care so much about what other people watch or even their criticism about that same thing, Ame knew the public she wanted and clearly only cares about them.

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60875552

>>60853488
OP is a homobegger disregard this post

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60875630

>>60875291
People use Shiori as a "discussion topic" while in actuality they want people to fight in the thread and fling shit at each other. It's always the same shit too.

>Is doing GFE bad-
>Why do people hate her-
>What's with all the negativity-

>> No.60875918

>>60867268
>>60867382
you inspire other to improve themselves, not berate them to doing so.
Take this wisdom, and feck off

>> No.60876059

>>60875918
I was referencing the fact that some anons try to shut others because of criticism like this.

>> No.60876063

>>60874871
>>60875291
>>60875630
stop acting like gay bratty women.

>> No.60876117

>>60853488
I want sex with botan

>> No.60876294
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>>60876063
I am a gay fem!anon though...

>> No.60876376
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60876376

Is that Botan Shishiro from Hololive?

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60876479

>>60876063
>Acting

>> No.60876844

>>60854391
Ame has been shit long before that sentence. Since after her first months actually.

>> No.60877404

>>60876844
Anon....this is just getting pathetic..

>> No.60877541

>>60853850
>>60864375
She talked about playing the switch while still on high school. She's a zoomer.

>> No.60877626

>>60876844
I still remember some ledditors thinking that she would continue Coco's legacy kek

>> No.60879902

>>60853694
Yes, and still do.

>> No.60880129

>>60876376
Yes, botan shishiro aka 6 streams/month

>> No.60880192

>>60876294
seggs?

>> No.60880459

>>60874562
This is quite possible, FWMC have absolutely seen how others have fucked up and made sure to make explicitly clear that they wont do the same thing. They've made it so obvious I wouldnt be surprised if ame et al were seething at them secretly

>> No.60880633

>>60853488
She’s been doing this for years. She’s mastered the craft of manipulating unstable men and turning them into drones that only serve to satellite her. Now that Hololive picked her up, she now has a platform to manipulate the masses and drain their wallets like a fucking mosquito. The worst part of it all is that she’s so shameless about it, she doesn’t even try to hide it, it’s disgraceful. Shiori is not anywhere near a singer or idol worthy of Hololive, she’s a chinksect visual novel player who gets off to guro and NTR. She’s disgusting. Novelfags deserve the rope just as much their oshi.

>> No.60881285

>>60880633
Damn the 2view seethe on this is palpable.
We got a live seether boys!

>> No.60881527

>>60853488
snide remarks have always been more about satisfying one’s ego rather then fixing problems

>> No.60881853

>>60856914
Botan is very agile for a hag over 40. especially considering the (old) footage I've seen about her roommate definitelty isn't sporty.
Then again, I ran my first half-marathon past 30. You can start training at any age.

>> No.60881933

>>60853488
Is this 2 view seethe or did Niji shit itself again?

>> No.60882614

>>60881933
They're losing their last and biggest IDs.

>> No.60882748

You know western women are posting here when they're seething about the horrible manipulation of someone being nice to people so people like them. They see doing anything to make men happy EVER as a deep betrayal of their gender.

>> No.60882806

>>60882748
shut up noveldrone

>> No.60883048

>>60882748
>he’s so deep in, sad..

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