/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

>random towa stream
>50 comments
>Almost 30 of them are in English
What does twerp think about majority of her audience watching her for pity
https://youtu.be/hbNdooO8n_M

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>>6215256
They remind each other over Discord to comment on the video after every stream is done, I don't think the Japanese fans do that. Can't speak for if that's the entire reason, but it's part of it

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>>6215256
eops love getting cucked

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>>6215354
Even comments are choke full of English. Sometimes you can clearly notice Towa pausing during the Zatsudan just to scroll up and read the Japanese comments

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she is a lazy idiot for not being serious about not learning english she could fill a void after coco and haachama graduations

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>>6215891
She hasn't changed her opening screen since debut, do you honestly think she gives a shit about learning a new language?

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>>6215891
I don't want her to feel like she's being pressured into learning English. She's my oshi but she didn't exactly ask for an audience consisting of over 50% gaijin. Mainly I listen to the music and buy the merch, and don't really know what the discord kenzoku are trying to accomplish.

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>>6215891
seems like she's doing some korean reps...

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>>6216076
Well intentionally or not that’s the audience she has. She should at least put in some effort.

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>>6216076
It's not like she has to really learn english, she can skate by 99% of the way with just hey guys, goodbye and thank you kaigai nikki which every JP has been coached on at this point

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Towa's EOP fanbase isn't even large. Her problem is the lack of Japanese fans rather than too many English ones.

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>>6216171
I'd rather she ignore eops than graduate because of them.

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>>6216171
What if a million Swahili speakers decided to troll Towa by subbing and now she has to learn click-click-kiss-gulp?

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>>6218791
yes, at least some basic words, welcome to entertainment

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>>6218791
I mean most vtubers that get a bigger overseas audience than the local audience start pandering to the overseas one, at least some fake effort like using duolingo, Towa is just unmotivated to learn english for some reason, yet she wants to learn korean the moment she gets a korean friend...

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>>6215256
It's just her autism acting up, she fears change. Besides, it's not like you're doing your reps to talk to her either.

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>>6219327
she just joined Holo to play APEX with her non-Holo friends not to make more money for Cover by EOP pandering

[Anonymous No.]

Is this the towa anti thread?

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>>6219651
No, that's the towa thread

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>>6215354
Discord saviorfags. Maybe they should talk to each other on there instead of shitting up the chat to the point JOPs dont even try to talk.

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>>6219500
Cover needs to only hire people that will do this full time. Not girls with actual professions like Ina and Choco. Not college kids either like Haachama. And no one under 20.

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>>6221481
You will only get unambitious hags with fat resumes who want to treat Hololive as a comfy retirement home from now on, not another Korone.

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>>6219327
>learning Korean just for Selly
kek it's pretty cute but it's probably because she wants to collab with CR moreswrns in general.

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>>6219327
japanese women fear the kaiguy
they look down on coreans due to the latter having been a colony of their once great empire
this has been instilled in them on a genetic level, just as the fear of two atomic bombs in the anus has been instilled in them forever more
hence why she's more comfy dealing with those she knows are "beneath" her

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>>6222408
Probably for bora too, it's definitely mainly for these 2 though

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>>6215354
>>6216076

It's for the algorithm. The reason YouTubers keep begging people to Like, Comment, and Subscribe is because YouTube tracks "engagement" and thus feeds it into the algorithm. Nothing deeper than that.

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>>6215256
>watching her for pity
What is there to pity? She's been doing ok for a while now, no?

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>>6219862
Huh uh

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>>6215256
Every holo has most VOD comments in English

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>>6224650
English speakers in general seem to comment more on videos.

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Towa is a funny example of how schizos can maintain afloat a relationship that would otherwise go down the drain as soon as it turned out to be one-sided.
She doesn't give a shit about learning english or doing anything really to better accommodate the EOPs because she knows she can get away with anything. Hell, it has always been like this since the very beginning, EOP white knights only came to her defense after the yab because many schizo clipfags got the wrong idea that she did nothing wrong, completely ignoring the fact that she used the company's name to back up a lie.
If after almost one year and a half these people are still there no matter what you do, why even bother? It's totally understandable her focusing on JOPs instead since these are the ones pumping and dumping here, but yeah...
tldr: Towa is a whore.

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>>6221971
a whole gen of botan's? i'm not seeing the downside here.

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>>6224892
She literally did nothing wrong. It is OK to lie using company's name

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>>6224892
t.someone who has literally never watched a single Towa stream.

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>>6224892
(You)

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We love Towa here.

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>>6225351
We hate to love Towa here

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>>6224892
>EOPs came in when no one asked
>OMG I GAVE THIS BITCH ATTENTION. HOW DARE SHE NOT PANDER TO ME IN EVERY STREAM
yeah okay

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>>6225988
Towa would have been aloe 1.0. without EOPs, she straight up said it, which makes it even weirder that she doesn't put effort into learning english

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>>6215891
Any one of them could try to get good at English, seriously, it's not that hard and it doesn't take as long as everyone thinks. Imagine the number boost if a Holo who was never good at English came out of nowhere speaking relatively well, it would really help Holos like Mel, Roboco, Flare, Luna, Towa, Choco and Aki.

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>>6226351
>she straight up said it
source

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I want Japanese women who pretend to be anime girls to be happy, regardless of context.

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>>6226521
2020 End of the year member stream

[Anonymous No.]

love Tower's voice
simple as

[Anonymous No.]

Why bother learning English when you can convert your EOPs into JSLs is the real question.

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>>6227364
good chance she also converts you into an an apex addict too, I didn't care too much about it but her doing viewer participations got me into trying out the game to play with her and getting better to not slow her down, I'm high diamond now...
Towa turned me into a menhera apex addict JSL

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>>6225988
>JP audience dwindles to the point that more than half your active viewers are english
>keep desperately catering to a constantly shrinking group instead of learning 10 english words that will get you to 1M subs for free
tomato....

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>>6225002
Fuck you lying foid whore

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>>6227446
I was honestly surprised when I was doing some reps the other day and was recognizing kanji that I had never studied before. I can't believe Towa mindbroke me into understanding Japanese.

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Why are narrativefags like this?

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>>6215891
t.utter retard that can barely speak his mother tongue

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>>6215256
this is what every JP tuber's comment section looks like anon, eops love being obnoxious

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>>6227469
She speaks and reads English basically every stream.

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>>6227757
It's funny how many people have been parroting the same retarded shit about Towa for over a year when it's obvious they've never watched even a few minutes of her streams.
What's the objective?

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>>6228196
I watch towa, her english is way worse than before, I remember she could read and understand perfect english in a ppt among us stream when she was translating for her, cue a few months later and she struggles to read english signs in minecraft

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>>6228428
She literally translates almost all her English superchats into Japanese perfectly every single stream.

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i really like this thread

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>>6228470
Anon I'm not shitting you, she can't understand english signs in minecraft, hell she could barely say few words to moona when she'a on, I can only assume that she machine translates superchats because her english is awful in actual practice

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>>6228902
If being able to communicate in Minecraft is the bar for "being able to understand English well", then Moona also can't speak English.

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>>6228196
Towantis can't stop thinking about Towa...

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>>6221971
So it will be a company full of Watames, Lunas, Marines, Fubukis, Soras, and Flares? I'm cool with that.

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>>6228937
>Moona also can't speak English.
She can't. Moona's Japanese is almost as "good" as her English. I almost feel like speaking any language is tough for her cause of autism but isn't she a haffu? What's her native language?

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>>6228902
It's incredibly obvious when Towa uses GTL though? If anything it just seems like she has trouble reading in general, like she was even having trouble reading kanji when she was singing. I think she can understand English when she hears it but has difficulty reading it, which kind of makes sense for the dumb debiru.

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>>6228937
Being able to understand english superchats doesn't qualify as knowing english, how can she understand them but not understand random english she encounters? And besides that most superchats aren't that complicated, most of them are just complimenting her. And moona is also bad at english, but at least she can communicate and get the point across

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>>6218791
>Swahili
>click-click-kiss-gulp
Anon, have you ever seen the fucking Lion King?

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>>6229603
The point is that she understand English as well as (or better) than the majority of the other holoJP talents. Even better than some of the ones that specifically pander to EOPs.
What most people actually mean when they say shit like "she hates her foreign audience" is "she doesn't pander to EOPs".
The reality is, she doesn't pander to anyone. She plays the games she wants to play, she streams when she wants to stream, she talks about what she wants to talk about, she plays with who she wants to play with.
It's fine if you don't like that attitude, but just because she's not pandering to (You) doesn't mean she hates her audience.

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>>6227691
I can speak three and a half language and I still think any of the holo who was serious about their eigo reps could be fluent by now.

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>>6215256
most jp view already left her, kaigainiki is all she has left, so she value them btw

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>>6224674
>>6224650
That and JOP seem to comment less if they feel that a comment section has not enough Japanese in it, you rarely see the "just a 'language' comment passing by" from JPs in random videos

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>>6229203
I think she said she grew up speaking a mix of english/bahasa which would explain why her english ended up so broken

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>>6229540
Towa comes across as someone that isn't all that smart but has a lot of common sense. She also doesn't like to think too hard about anything. Pekora often confounds her with her autismal musings about the world.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3f7i9kGyTYg

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>>6231079
She's is the prime example of jack of al trades but a master of none. So many under 30 hispanic kids are like this. Shit at English and Spanish but can generally communicate in both. They wouldn't be able to pass a grade school language test to save their life.

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>>6215256
i watch her for her fuckin delicious voice. second only maybe to Gura IMO.
i should support her more desu.

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Kenzoku lives in a perpetual state of being an anti and a fan. They oscillate between the two position like a retarded pendulum.
Common mistakes of these early-stage Towa "antis" they start to pretend not to care about her content, doomposting, menhera posting, falseflagging as a kenzoku until you realize you posted more Towa than your oshi and eventually fall victim to her cuteness and deep sexy voice. At that point, you are a terminal Kenzoku and you will no longer be able to turn normal Vtuber enjoyer.
Then you start going back into anti-mode when she start tweeting elsewhere and doomposts, you start to lose grip on reality. This cycle will repeat until you fully transformed into full fledged Bibi.
Towa "antis" beware, you may not realize it yet but you too will be indoctrinated into this mental hospital they call "Tokoyami Family".

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>>6231385
Watch the Indo squirrel too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_BYq-AOahI

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>>6229041
No you only get boring retards like Polka. Those hags joined when Hololive wasn't that big

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>>6231809
You don't watch Polka. She funny and has SVOL.

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>>6231958
>SVOL
What?

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>>6233061

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>>6231650
I have heard several fan remixed duos of these two, I wish they would just do something official.
Ayunda's deep voice goes so well with Gura's.

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>>6221971
>>6229041
>>6224956

That sounds great.

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>>6230725
>she understand English as well as (or better) than the majority of the other holoJP talents. Even better than some of the ones that specifically pander to EOPs.
That's really, really not a high bar, in fact the ones that pander to eops tend to know the least because they're more worried on pandering than learning well, I think only aki has actually learned something from the all of the girls that try to pander to eops
>but just because she's not pandering to (You) doesn't mean she hates her audience.
Never implied that, I'm just calling her lazy, and a bit weird considering she wants to also learn korean.

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>>6233551
Not being interested in doing it doesn't make her lazy though, you're deflecting again. Just because she's not doing what you think she should be doing, doesn't mean she's doing something wrong.

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>>6231809
>boring retards like Polka
Man, you have no idea what you are taking about.

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>>6233551
RBC's not half bad at English. She reads English chat messages out loud and answers them in English. Her accent is adorably scuffed, but she clearly understands.
Subaru isn't confident at all with her eigo, but she makes those English cue cards for her zatsudans and can also clearly understand what she's reading.
Maririn panders to EOPs more than anyone, but she's already popular. Her English is delightfully shit, and most of the time she doesn't even bother trying to read GTL herself and just clicks the speaker icon. Marine is confident as fuck in her kuso eigo.
Just because Tower doesn't want to learn English doesn't make her lazy. She has APEX to play.

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>>6233590
>Not being interested in doing it doesn't make her lazy though
Literally the definition of lazy. And no one would complain if she didn't put as one of her goals that she would get better at english, and that she would an english stream and collab with the ENs, and she's not obligated to do so but I can call her lazy for not doing it

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>>6233692
or y'know, maybe she changed her mind when she realized she'd be able to understand you?

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>>6233692
Calling her lazy implies that she should be doing it, but she isn't. There's no requirement for her to study English, it's just your opinion that she should be to pander to EOPs.
None of her goals are to "get better at English" or do an English collab, it's simply to collab with ID2 or EN. Maybe you should be the one doing you reps, lazy fuck.

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>>6233748
>towa's motivation falls down after she enters the kenzoku discord one day
Damn you're right

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>>6215256
Most hololive comment sections are like this. Your new is showing .Towa's chat and comments used to have more eops than this too.

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>>6222497
She literally said that she feared Japanese comments for months after her yab and the English ones gave her a sense of relief.

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>>6233796
>There's no requirement for her to study English, it's just your opinion that she should be to pander to EOPs.
Is learning english pandering to eops? I'm not asking for duolingo streams, she can just learn in her spare time in a better way. And yes, she's lazy, in fact all of japan are lazy fucks for not learning english but at least everyone has the excuse that they'll only interact with japanese in their lives, meanwhile towa's fanbase is 50% english and she can barely understand them, let alone communicate with them

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>>6233944
If you actually watched her at all, you would know she does study English off stream. She literally talked about it within the last month.

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>>6224892
>she used the company's name to back up a lie
I can't believe TMT is using hololive to lie to her fans about being a debiru!

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>>6233965
>learns korean at the same time
I doubt she'll be able to learn either with her "maipesu" attitude, despite english being easy it still takes time and effort, and playing apex until 3 am in the morning makes me worried about where she puts that effort. But still, I hope you're right because the only way she'll be able to communicate well with selly is if she knows enough english

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Purityfags want to be lied to, that is just a fact. You want your oshis to selectively edit out males who aren't family from their stories and only show purely platonic relationships with vtuber males in public if they feel they can collab at all that is. The issue isn't that Towa lied to the japanese, it is that she didn't put on a convincing enough lie to make them ok with it. The difference may seem subtle, but it is actually quite large.

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>>6234206
Unironically, 90% of the current hololive fan base has literally 0 idea about Towa's yab. She brought it up in her own stream a few months ago and even most of her current fans didn't know what she was talking about. It's another thing that people here love to parrot over and over, but it basically has no basis in reality.

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>>6215256
>imagine bullying a middle aged woman using an anime avatar
When you look at the reality of Towa's situation it really isnt that big of a deal.

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>>6234206
The issue isn't that grandiose, Towa had antis from the start so people rolled with the negativity instead of just taking her word for it. Sure she should have said that those were just her friends on voice chat , the truth , but she already had so little confidence in herself she had to think of something unimpeachable, something like "these are cover staff actually" kind of silly response, but an understandable one in the circumstances. Then cover went full dmca on the clips and it blew up more.

[Anonymous No.]

Pretty sure Towa has alright said that if it wasn't for her western fans she would have already left Hololive, not sure why faggots are trying to claim that she doesn't appreciate them or takes their support for granted.

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y'all ever heard Towa-sama speak in english?

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>>6237509
https://files.catbox.moe/fqmd6h.mp4

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>>6237589
>https://files.catbox.moe/fqmd6h.mp4
isn't she a university grad? so she can be eigo-jozu at a level right?

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>>6237509
https://files.catbox.moe/uuxuvf.mp4

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>>6234428
Good point. It's basically been a year since it happened and most of her EOP fans never heard about it. Time to move on.

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>>6218791
>click-click-kiss-gulp
The clicking happens on the other side of the continent.

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Normally I wouldn't care about her but she's trying to get close to my apex chuubas. Fuck off you unfunny bitch.

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>>6245170
https://files.catbox.moe/rhk0h1.webm

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>>6215256
Sorry. I can only speak English so I comment in English too. She can always use google translate

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>>6245170
too late for that, they all love her.

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>>6245305
I'll start warming up to her if she at least tries to be funny. At the moment she completely ruins the mood of any collab she's in. Turns it into "waaa ur so cute kyaa kyaa I love youuu" holoshit atmosphere instead of the usual comedian atmosphere I'm interested in.

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>>6245420
You've obviously never watched any collab Towa's ever been in.

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>>6233649
It wasn't that long ago that Towa was translating for Roboco.

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>>6237509
https://streamable.com/my4o4s

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Towa will study English
https://streamable.com/0kqv6d

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>>6233649
She just needs to be interested in an English speaking APEX player to really motivate her to learn the language. No, not Amelia. It’ll have to be a man for this to work.

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>>6226380
if my favorite bishoujo started getting actually good at English I'd immediately stop watching her.

watch holoen if you want that shit

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>>6249976
It honestly could be Ame if they end up hitting it off. I feel like Towa's interest in Korean mostly came from Bora, not Selly.

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>>6250128
It won’t be Ame. Towa’s interest in Korean was mainly for Selly since Bora can speak Japanese just fine. It also helps her with networking with more Korean APEX players.

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>>6249838
maybe...

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>>6215891
No one needs to learn another language

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>>6233929
Funny way of showing her gratitude.

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If Towa wanted men to care about her, she shouldn't have been a raging whore that lies to her viewers about her boyfriend.

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>>6250034
seethe, JOP

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>>6256232
nice rrat.
That shit has already been beaten to the ground.
Even JOP schizos and her herself complaining about not having a bf.