/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

>Shiori still has yet to collab outside of Advent in a planned 1-on-1 since debut
Are (You) respecting her collab choices?

[Anonymous No.]

No, she should collab with my penis.

[Anonymous No.]

>>62501778
Bitch should've traded the orange property

[Anonymous No.]

hasn't even been a year yet

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>>62502079
>1 more year
Really moving the goalpost there

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>>62501778
what're you anons even waiting for her to do?

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>>62503050
To confirm whether “respect my collab choices” meant “I’m kind of awkward in collabs and probably won’t do a lot of them” or whether it meant “I’m gonna collab with guys OOOOHHHH SCARY!”
On the one hand, everything about her rm and what we’ve seen of Shiori so far and the general consensus of non-schizos, which is that it’s the first answer. On the other hand, every day Shiori doesn’t collab with males is still another day tomorrow where she *might* collab with males, so the falseflaggers and schizos keep it going.

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>>62501778
>being hyper specific about it being a 1-on-1 so he can not count the Party Animals and Monopoly collabs
https://www.youtube.com/watch/?v=fkSc8zoA9TA
https://www.youtube.com/watch/?v=HJ3Hmt609R4

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>>62503156
>“I’m kind of awkward in collabs and probably won’t do a lot of them”
probably this one then, from the looks of it?
she'll probably collab with them one day but I think she needs to atleast sched. a collab with the other girls.

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>>62503156
If you haven't gotten it yet then you're unironically retarded, sorry anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>62501778
She's free to do what she want. Probably trying to play it safe for now but if she does invite third parties at some point she's safe to do so since she made it clear at the start. If you got a problem with that you honestly have no right to complain.

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>>62501778
Yes, next question

[Anonymous No.]

>shiori doesn't collab
OMFG Collab outside your gen baka!1!!1
>Shiori collabs
OMFG Collab one on one!2! Reeeeeeee!!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>62501778
Grifter who joined Hololive just to grift doesn't care about Hololive. News at 11.

[Anonymous No.]

She's 100% /here/ and considering the reaction people here had she pulled the brakes on her homocollabing plans for now. She has to wait for her little cucks to be too infatuated with her to care, and looking at novelite posts it's clear they're going down that path

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>>62503156
I basically refuse to put any stock into Shiori until she directly clarifies what she meant by the statement. As it stands she hasn't at all. It doesn't help that she's obviously the most esl in HoloEN, which might be what caused her to not be clear with her comment.

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>>62505929
>>62503289

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>>62506059
They're already down with no way back.

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>>62506095
?????. I don't know what your point is, anon. She's a grifter.

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>>62506158
>doesn't care about Hololive
>literally just had a collab with Mori and Ina, has been in multiple Mori & Fauna open VCs, joined Myth's anniversary stream, sent a birthday message to Zeta

[Anonymous No.]

>>62506158
Sure man

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>>62501778
She wants to collab with niji males but management won't allow it so she refuse to collab with anyone outside of Advent to riot.

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>>62506547
Flayon isn't a nijimale though, and I doubt they banned homostar collabs

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>>62506592
So where's the Flayon collab then

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>>62506653
come on anon, I'm sure you can put 2 and 2 together by yourself

[Anonymous No.]

>>62506698
Where is it

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>>62505869
You can't expect consistency from these types, nothing will get them off her case. This is all they have.

[Anonymous No.]

>smaller collab range instead of the expected larger range
>all the drama for nothing

[Anonymous No.]

>>62506717
two.
more.
weeks.

[Anonymous No.]

homobeggars truly are insufferable

[Anonymous No.]

I think she was planning to collab with outsiders and her male friends, but saw the backlash that short speech at the end of her debut got and changed her mind

[Anonymous No.]

>>62506865
If they at least watched the streams they constantly beg for I could understand, but they don't even do that. They just beg for collabs and then when they finally get them, they're nowhere to be found.

[Anonymous No.]

>>62506898
maybe she's not as dumb as I thought

[Anonymous No.]

>>62504728
>probably this one then
Definitely that one, in a later stream she clarified that she struggles making friends and being comfortable with people so it'll be hard for her to collab often until she slowly gets to know people.

[Anonymous No.]

>>62506066
Your loss.

[Anonymous No.]

She joins a lot of group collabs/streams, so it's okay.

[Anonymous No.]

>>62506066
So her actions during the entire 100+ days she's been here mean nothing then? If you haven't gotten the memo yet that's your fault at this point, by now it should be more than clear.

[Anonymous No.]

>mentally broken shiorikeks trying to drag other people down into their hell
sad

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>>62506066
>I basically refuse to put any stock into Shiori until she directly clarifies what she meant by the statement.
What she meant was that she was planning on collabing with her old clique of whos or whatever but what happened is thatshe saw the amount of money that was pouring in after she got monetized and decided she wasn't gonna do anything to jeopardize that golden mealticket. Think about it logically.

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>>62501778
I respect that she's respecting our disrespect of her collab choices

[Anonymous No.]

This girl has the most annoying fanbase I have seen to date. You are all mentally insane and very draining to share a board with.

[Anonymous No.]

>>62508638
You'll be fine, quit whining.

[Anonymous No.]

>>62501778
I keep telling you people, Shiori will collab with Holostars if the donos start running out. So for the good of Shiori’s purity (and Advent’s as a whole) please donate at least $10 per stream and leave a positive message. The only thing preventing a stream where not only Shiori, but also Fuwamocco plays Apex with Altare or whatever the fuck his name is you, anon. Only $15 dollars per stream and buying Shiori’s membership will prevent this horrific future from occurring.

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>>62501778
Hey er anon, you shouldn't force a woman with autism and ADHD to talk to strangers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>62501778
>He doesn't know what the NTR experience looks like
You fucking newfags are so retarded. She's building a repertoire of trust between herself and the fans first. If she collabed with males in let's say, her first month, you would just brush her off as another male collabing whore and she knows this. But after 6 months of slow bonding, affection, love and care, etc you feel a special connection with her which is GFE. This is when she'll pull the rug from under your feet and reveal her true colors. The whiplash of betrayal you'll experience will make her cum buckets. She described herself as an NTR connoisseur on her PL so this is exactly the type of game she's playing.

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>>62506066
get filtered

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>>62509507
And this all happens starting when? 2 weeks from now?

[Anonymous No.]

>>62509507
This. See: Amelia Watson

[Anonymous No.]

>>62501778
thinly-veiled shilling thread
no, I won't watch your generic twitch thot

[Anonymous No.]

>>62509507
so you’re basically saying
>another six months
based if that’s her plan, it would be fun to watch the fireworks. Unfortunately even if that were her plan, she likely isn’t smart enough to pull it off very well.

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>>62508497
Kronii has been a " turbodyke femcel" for a lot longer than 100 days

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>>62501778
I noticed this too and a fews guess on this:
- she's really shy and is afraid to colab without Advent around to act as a buffer; makes more sense the newer Shiori is as a v-tuber
- Shiori might have been put off that in the early days only a couple in EN reached out their hand to offer to start something with Advent and she thinks they may not be eager to deal with her; Irys line at sport's fest seem to stung her
- she's waiting for her (Shark) or someone else hard to reach in Holo and wants that person to be her first collab

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>>62511702
>really shy and is afraid to colab without Advent
She's joined Myth/Promise open VC's without any Advent and stayed for awhile to talk to said person hosting it. She's clearly not shy if she wants to join VC's as often as she does (which she just about attends everyones open VC).
>only a couple in EN reached out their hand
Biboo and Nerissa already said they had to ask about collabs and reach out to their senpai's. Just about all of Advent got that treatment from most members.
>she's waiting for -
Unless it's JP side, who would be hard to reach? Also, she didn't know anything about Hololive upon joining, I doubt she has a super special senpai she's holding out for.

Irys line at sport's fest seem to stung her -- I missed that, what did she say? It couldn't have been that bad given Irys is pretty kind.

[Anonymous No.]

>>62501778
It's funny seeing all the newfags jumping on the train and defending her. Honestly, it feels nice knowing about her online years even before her blue hair life, and knowing what's to come.

[Anonymous No.]

>>62512284
TUMOR WEEK AMIRITE SISTER!?

[Anonymous No.]

>>62512766
unironically, maybe.

[Anonymous No.]

https://youtu.be/cRNX34Qxaag

[Anonymous No.]

>>62513152
what a disgusting person

[Anonymous No.]

>>62512822
>Maybe
It's either yes or no you indecisive faggot

[Anonymous No.]

>>62513152
Hot

[Anonymous No.]

>>62501778
>Unicorns in 2022 "The problem with kronii was she wasn't open about males from the start,As long as their open from debut about if they want to collab with males its ok"
>Very same unicorns today "THIS WHORE STRAIGHT UP SAID SHES POSSIBLY COLLABING FROM THE START SHES A WHORE WHO IS UNFIT FOR HOLOLIVE"
I'm thankful everyday my oshi doesn't have these manchildren in her audience.

[Anonymous No.]

>>62513529
stop being disingenuous while pretending to be a pebble

[Anonymous No.]

>>62506592
Didn't Magni's roommate heavily imply that he quit because he wasn't going to be allowed to collab with the girls anymore?

[Anonymous No.]

>>62513633
Is anything I said wrong? I know for a fact the main cope last year after kronii was anons being mad that she presented herself as GFE then collabed with males out of no where, instead of showing full honesty from debut on her style of content.

Now shiori does exactly what the unicorns wanted and suddenly shes public enemy#1? Just goes to show that it's not even worth pandering to those thin skinned crybabies, unicorns are literally on the same level as twitter SJWs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>62513312
Well thing is, if she's /here, she'd be stupid to do a male collab (even if she wants to with an old friend) knowing what will happen, cause I'm sure she's seen the Kronii/Ame shitshow. Most of her paypigs will leave and her audience will drop lower than it already is. She SHOULD know that, but I wouldn't be surprised if she made a stupid decision like that down the road. My stance is, while she has a past of doing male collabs, I'm unsure if she'd bring that all the way into her new life as Shiori.. It would be smart not to, but again, she's very retarded and makes stupid decisions sometimes, so it's hard to trust her completely in this new life. It's hard to forget her 2 PL's.

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>>62513751
Source? Sounds stupid but knowing that it's Magni I wouldn't be surprised

[Anonymous No.]

>>62513751
Where did he imply this?

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>>62506066
I can't even empathize with unicorns like you. If I think a VTuber is entertaining or cute or whatever, and she collabs with a guy, I don't get this feeling of instant repulsion / hate / disappointment that unicorns seem to experience.
Sure, if the guy was unfunny or awkward, then I wouldn't want them to collab often, but the mere existence of men in my oshi's stream doesn't sour my experience one bit.
It just eludes me how a person of sound mind can possessive of a streamer behind an anime avatar to that degree, but I also refuse to believe that every unicorn is mentally ill.

What am I missing?

[Anonymous No.]

isn't it obvious what happen - main problem in face of Magni and Vesper who force management to collab with girls has gone. problem solved at least for now until another homo\retarted manager\homobeggars\twitter etc inevitably make the same mistake again

[Anonymous No.]

Another boring answer is that there’s just no interest from the guys.
Axel is only interested in music collabs, Regis is Kobo-exclusive, and Tempus2 doesn’t seem to care.
I know the thing with Flayon, but that’s really weak.

[Anonymous No.]

Having a cuck fetish isn't normal, just stop you fucking faggots

[Anonymous No.]

>>62513893
She's doing the same thing, have you even watched her? I wouldn't blame you if you didn't

[Anonymous No.]

>>62514469
learn English before posting here

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>>62514356
The answers been the same since e girls started streaming on twitch a decade ago, There are alot of lonely dudes who make good money, and 9/10 have never had a meaningful relationship. They latch extremely hard onto a vtuber and view their one way donations as them supporting a relationship. So when the time comes and a male or PL yab happens they don't have the emotional maturity to move on and go apeshit over it.

Basically the same anime weebs who used to completely shit on twitch simps are now doing the exact same thing they are, which is pretty funny to think about.

[Anonymous No.]

Reminder that she was planning on collabing with Vesper on his "big return" but Vesper was a retard and got fired over a contract dispute so now Shiori has no male worth leeching with and made that statement for no good reason at all

[Anonymous No.]

>>62515169
>Source: my tulpa told me

[Anonymous No.]

if you watched the collab from last night, she was kinda lost.
she never played monopoly before and the only thing was her "fighting" with nerissa.
she was cute though.
the collab itself didn't really have any topic discussion or anything so it's not her fault

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>>62514356
>instant repulsion/hate
If it's genuine long term fans and comes from a place of jealousy it's never instant and usually comes with a lot of bargaining/schizoing which is ugly to watch happen but understandable considering the type of people who watch vtubers, see Amelia and Kronii situations.
A lot of it you shouldn't take that seriously however because there are plenty of people who either don't watch the vtuber in question but live for the drama who pretend to be outraged/hurt the second they get an opportunity.

However there is value in gatekeeping hololive from becoming niji/twitch indie circle tier, even if you don't get as attached as the "unicorns" do and like to see yourself as above all the possessiveness anyone who is a fan of holo should appreciate this is the place for cute girls doing things with other cute girls primarily and the spergs do a valuable service in keeping most of the talents doing that kind of content even if just to avoid drama, if there was no pushback on tempus collabs holoEN would be unrecognizable today and if the Japs didn't pushback on HLZNTL there would probably be even more eceleb bullshit happening on the JP side.
"unicorns" are the white blood cells of the hobby.

[Anonymous No.]

>>62514725
>Doing the same thing
How? She tried to be open from the start and was ferociously attacked by /here/ and containment breakers, so obvious the plan to collab with her old friends isn't going to happen

[Anonymous No.]

>>62515493
Nah unitards are mentally ill degenerates that would rape their oshi if they could get away with it. There’s really nothing else to them and anyone who tries to argue otherwise is coping. They’re no different from the collab beggars they supposedly hate.

[Anonymous No.]

>>62515810
ogey sis

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>>62515765
She was doing GFE until she completely dropped it recently, she literally speedran Ame and Kronii's arc without involving the homos yet

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>>62501778
She is not gonna collab for it, but she will play the new Tempus visual novel.
https://twitter.com/machinaxflayon/status/1723947294892884247

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>>62501778
People found what she did before, and are already leaving. She's the runt of her gen despite her being a close second to Fuwamoco before debut.
Imagine how much lower she would get if she colabed with the people she wanted to colab.

[Anonymous No.]

>>62515810
astral projection

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>>62503156
>is that it’s the first answer
You can't be serious. If moe is all you have, you didn't even research properly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>62514356
>What am I missing?
you're missing that you're a normalfag who doesn't belong on this website

[Anonymous No.]

>>62516084
The killer of joy is where people should be looking.

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>>62511702
>Irys line at sport's fest seem to stung her
No really, is this some rrat taken out of context or did Irys really say something mean to Shiori?

[Anonymous No.]

>>62516474
It was mostly shiori saying either mean or disgusting things

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>>62501778
Homobeggers Lost
Whores Lost

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>>62516381
/vt/'s okayness with paypigging for e-whores is the exception on this website and you know it. normalfags have been unicorns on websites like twitch before vtubers blew up.

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>>62513751
This never happened. Both Vesper and Magni quit over music disputes. Vesper wishing to not be forced to do covers/orisongs due to his complete lack of musical talent is the straw that broke management's back on him, and Magni wanted to release the loopstation mixtape on streaming services but management wouldn't allow it.

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>>62511702
>Irys line at sport's fest seem to stung her
Which line?

[Anonymous No.]

>>62501778
God, is this shit really going to be spammed every single week? You even posted the same thing yesterday.

[Anonymous No.]

>>62501778
If she ends up never collabing with males/non-Holos beyond what is generally accepted amount set by HoloJP, I'll think of her as retarded for shooting herself on the foot like that on her debut.

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>>62513893
>Now shiori does exactly what the unicorns wanted
Anon the whole problem is that her statement was ambiguous and is still unclarified. Are you retarded?

[Anonymous No.]

>>62518135
Yeah she worded it very poorly if she meant "I won't collab outside of Advent" and wasn't talking about male/2view friend collabs. I can't help but think the backlash she got from it is what made her back down IF that is what she was planning to do, so now she doesn't want to collab with anyone. You'd think by now she'd go back and clarify it to get people to stop speculating..?

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>>62515920
You guys need to these women are entertainers and the oxytocin in your brain drying up because it finally realizes you can't touch the 2D woman doesn't mean anything has materially changed about their streaming or performance.

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>>62513893
>>not even worth pandering to those thin-skinned crybabies

Mori does exactly this and EVERYONE here hates her for it.

Fucking kek.

[Anonymous No.]

>>62517761
twitch whores aren't the same as vtubers, go back to the shithole that you crawled out of
>>62519228
because everyone can tell she's faking it and she hates every second of it

[Anonymous No.]

>>62514356
Hololive borrows a lot from JP's idol culture in general, and that same culture bleeds into its western fanbase. Just compare NijiJP and NijiEN's reaction to male collabs to Holo's. I'm guessing you are just a casual clip watcher though.

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>>62510592
That's because Tempus didn't exist until her moment.
Her moment happened because a StarsEN happened.
It would have happened a lot faster if StarsEN happened closer to council, or if it existed before council.

[Anonymous No.]

the thing i don't understand about people who think they're basically in a relationship with shiori is that she has 400k subscribers.
why not find some 5-viewer weird vtuber on twitch to be obsessed with. you would have a much higher chance of actually making a meaningful impression on them

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>>62511702
>- she's really shy and is afraid to colab without Advent around to act as a buffer; makes more sense the newer Shiori is as a v-tuber
anon, she doesn't even call sora a senpai.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjdMDNXyz5A
She basically trashes her and belittles her accomplishments, because she's stuck in that stagnant indie mindset.

[Anonymous No.]

>>62521187
dude this video was just her complimenting sora for 57 seconds what are you even talking about

[Anonymous No.]

>>62521187
>She basically trashes her and belittles her accomplishments
the first 30 second of the clip already made you look like a retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>62516474
>>62521187
>Irys line at sport's fest seem to stung her
What line? I watched the whole thing and I don't recall anything happening between Irys and Shiori other than some tame banter about who is riding who during the horse part. Am I forgetting something?

[Anonymous No.]

>>62521318
>>62521346
You weren't supposed to watch the clip, just take it at face value.

[Anonymous No.]

>>62521424
IRyStocrat here he is just making it up

[Anonymous No.]

>>62501778
Turned out she's much better than nerisslut kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>62501778
>still seething after 3 months
Your homobegging will be put on your grave and I will gladly piss on it

[Anonymous No.]

>>62521187
are you fucking retarded? nvm don't answer I know you must be. She's literally singing her praise the entire clip

[Anonymous No.]

I mean, does it really matter? Whatever she ends up doing will be either 100% defended on by the casual audience, and 100% convicted by the unicorn audience
Take Ayame RIGHT now for instance
>Collabing with a male
>>Oh but he's a Valo pro and it's not 1 on 1
>She's talking 1 on 1 with him
>>Oh its over game strats, so its not really like actual convo
>They are having a casual convo outside of Valo strats
We are currently waiting for Unicorn response

[Anonymous No.]

>>62516430
>>62516084
stop schizoposting and just link your evidence. it's not going to get you banned. everybody would believe you if you just shared the info.

[Anonymous No.]

>>62501778
>still grudgeposting this
holy shit get a life

[Anonymous No.]

>>62521868
He does it because you fags still give him 100+ replies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>62506653
Even if this post doesn't age like milk we have already seen how they usually wait to build up their fan base.

[Anonymous No.]

>leeching holostars
>not following the instructions and making a scene to attention whore during sportsfes
>pic related
Imagine oshi-ing this. I respect the fact that she isn't tainting people outside her gen with her whoredom I guess.

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>>62522859
man we were so close to having a better Advent

[Anonymous No.]

>>62522859
I dont get it. Is that supposed to be her pl or someone talking about her

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>>62522859
I sometimes envy how intense some of these people lean into the schizo arc

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>>62523016
her past life.
and wow the weird girl who jokes about being depressed lashes out and has a falling out with her friend group. never seen that happen before. without more info it's hard to tell if she's even in the wrong here? just looks like she felt betrayed by someone close to her and was miserable about it. who cares?
>not following the instructions and making a scene to attention whore during sportsfes
when? when did this happen? she was given shitty instructions and told to practice for the wrong games and didn't know what to do. she didn't 'make a scene' she fucked off and talked with chat other than some small talk with other people.
once again: weird girl has trouble during large group social events. nobody surprised. except this guy, somehow.

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>>62522859
Who the fuck is this? You have any proof or are you off your meds again?

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>>62523306
This is the last part of a whole thread talking about how awful her time working under Eilene as Moe was
>>62318441

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>>62508497
I have watched only her debut of those 100 days, so yes

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>>62508533
That's making an assumption of what she meant, which I won't do. Either she clarifies or I don't watch, simple as that

[Anonymous No.]

>>62523306
>defending a vtuber that says "fake parasocial relationships" and "support my alcoholic ex" in the same tweet
It's real, people literally simp for this STD-ridden thing. Kek.

[Anonymous No.]

>>62522859
>>62523306
>Talking about her current self and linking fake clips about how she's totally shit talking sora or hates irys isn't working sisters
>Let's bring up her PL instead where she was depressed and harassed, that will surely get /vt/ on our side
Fuck off eilene.

[Anonymous No.]

Holy timeloop

[Anonymous No.]

at this point there's no arguing with cuckvelites, she groomed them well

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>>62523425
yeah that makes sense. i'm happy that she got out of that situation. that seems like a living hell. seems weird to post a screenshot of tweets that make her look extremely sympathetic as a way to prove that she's a bad person, but whatever.

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>>62523514
What do eilene and depression have to do with using vtuber money on an alcoholic? Those only pertain to the bitching about it she did afterward.

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>>62501778
I actually hate this. Why doesn't she like her Promise senpais? She'd have better chemistry with Bae or Fauna than fucking Nerissa or those loud ass dogs.

[Anonymous No.]

>posting about shiori activities prior to joining holo is le good
>posting about fauna and mumei activities prior to joining holo is le bad
It will never stop being funny how far schizos, seething 2views, homobeggars and sisters try to take this shit
try harder next time, maybe you'll get into en4 when the seethe stops.

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>>62514356
I'm not even a unicorn, I just hate drama, and that's what male collabs bring. Not only that but intergender collabs just end up with people flirting, and I don't want to watch that. Hell she may have meant that she wanted to collab with flesh streamers for all we know, that's how ambiguous her statement was. I wouldn't want to watch that either.

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>>62523795
>screenshot taken out of context where the alcoholic ex was used as an example and the reality is there was no alcoholic ex
rumao the antis are THIS desperate. link the whole thing next time.

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>>62523849
>Why doesn't she like her Promise senpais?
She joined every Minecraft Monday Fauna has done since the collab ban ended

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>>62523910
>He still doesn't get it
Good, stay filtered at this point.

[Anonymous No.]

>>62523753
Someone in this thread posted a clip of her praising Sora and tried to claim she was "trashing her", there are people here who are legitimately mentally ill

[Anonymous No.]

>>62523849
why is council promise all of a sudden

what did I miss

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>>62523930
Don't bother, no one watches the girls and they say the first thing that comes to mind to try and talk shit. The goalposts will move to Myth right after this.

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>>62524005
It's a new gen that includes IRyS so she's no longer alone in a 1 person gen and doesn't have Sana because she's gone

[Anonymous No.]

I don't get what's so hard to understand, no matter what she does she will never be accepted, it's not that complicated

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>>62524068

[Anonymous No.]

>I died inside those years while trying to support my alcoholic ex AND you
In what shape or form is this phrase indicating any person is hypothetical, kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>62523795
>>62522859
>resorting to PL because their fee fees got hurt
And I thought Twitter snowflakes were sensitive

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>>62520976
I don’t identify as a unicorn BUT: I don’t want to be in a relationship with a vtuber I want to be in a fake relationship with a vtuber.
The thing about the vtuber having a real relationship on the side though is that it ironically turns that “fake” relationship into a real one, because then you are a secondary in her primary (physical) relationship.
Somewhat paradoxically a fake relationship requires real commitment to the bit.
But commitment to the bit isn’t a real relationship — it is something else.

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>>62524215
don't expect attention whores to have coherent structure in their self-propelled narratives

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>>62524236
I suppose the alcoholic ex is as real as the wrongdoings her colleagues inflicted upon her.

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Welp, whenever Shiori says that she hates alcohol, you now know the reason.

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>>62524065
Yeah that was a real retarded move on covers part. Not the Promise move but the reason they did it, because they never gave a shit about the Vsinger project in the first place and let Irys suffer trying to actually make it work.

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>>62523910
>I'm not even a unicorn, I just hate drama, and that's what male collabs bring.
How? If your not a unicorn and the vtuber isn't going out of their way to stir up drama why does it matter?

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>>62524364
Vsinger was supposed to have more talents, they had 2 more models that never got used. My guess is AZKi and IRyS showed that a solely music branch isnt much of anything

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>resorting to factual events
Just curious ENbros, does it count as breaking off the relationship before entering vtubing if she keeps fucking, supporting, and living with the """""""""ex"""""""""" the entire time and using her vtuber money?

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>>62501778
Novelites continue to fight an imaginary war. All the unicorns have moved on to attacking Nerissa but Novelites continue to show why they were a target in the first place.

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>>62524588
yes.

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>>62524658
So the de facto rule isn't no boyfriends, boy toys, or general fucking around, it's just no husbands.

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>>62524636
Anon... I don't know if you're a newfag or just retarded...

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>>62524440
Because the unicorns and anti unicorns, which are sometimes the same people, start fighting and causing the drama. If I'm going to choose something it's going to be the normalcy of what I have already been consuming, not something new, because I enjoy what I am already consuming.

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>>62524451
It was a a concept with a great foundation, but just like VshojoJP they failed to capitolize on scouting some of the really talented Vsingers out there. Also while Azki had the backing of both her music company and Cover, Irys had to fight to get some of her own albums and covers out.

Real shame, theres some really good small corpos/indies that would have definitely done wonders if they commuted to the Vsinger idea

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>>62524636
>Implying that novelites are the ones making these threads
Hi cute newfag, do you have a nice ass?

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>>62524712
you are retarded beyond belief

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>>62524750
>I let my choices in vtubers I watch be swayed by arguments between fanbases on an image board that has nothing to do with with their oshi in question
Maybe you should not watch any at all, since you're part of the reason this "drama" exists in the first place

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>>62524762
seriously what is nerissa's problems

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>>62503156
>To confirm whether “respect my collab choices” meant “I’m kind of awkward in collabs and probably won’t do a lot of them”
How delusional/ESL do you have to be to even consider it meant that? wtf

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>>62524871
>Implying it's any advent or their fanbase either.
Do you have nice tits too?

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>>62524857
No, my choice was guided by the red flag that was sent up by Shiori herself. Unless she clarifies her ambiguous statement I won't watch to avoid any drama in general.

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>>62524950
mori...

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>>62519637
Not even you believe what you're saying

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>>62519637
>because everyone can tell she's faking it and she hates every second of it
she got the break of a lifetime after working for someone who took advantage of her and ruined her mental health. she is doing something that she wanted to do for the biggest company doing it.
if she's miserable, it's not because of vtubing.

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>>62503156
>whether “respect my collab choices” meant “I’m kind of awkward in collabs and probably won’t do a lot of them” or whether it meant “I’m gonna collab with guys OOOOHHHH SCARY!”
Either ESL, or autism.

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Still wandering why she made that stupid ass statement if she was going the GFE route, either
>She's /here/ and the backlash mindbroke her
>The GFE was accidental but she realized that's the way to go, especially considering she's the runt of her gen and shoot herself on the foot on debut
>She's too autistic for her own good
I'm very inclined to believe it was the last option kek

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>2 years from now
>Shiori has accomplished her idol reps and has integrated into Hololive really well
>meanwhile the schizos here will STILL be trying to dissect one random statement she made on her debut stream
It's really funny to think about this happening.

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>>62525309
And she despises GFE content too saying that it's low effort, what the fuck was she thinking

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>>62525309
It's the first option. She did what EVERYONE HERE ALWAYS SAY TO DO, which is to set expectations right off the bat rather than surprise your audience later on. "Respect my collab choices" means she knew she'd collab with people that her expected audience might not like, my bet is on her past life friends/twitch streamers. There's no way to see this positively or in an unicorn way unles you're false flagging or delusionally coping.

That said she does have tons of GFE experience from past life(+ unironic cuckoldry asmr, look it up). After seeing the backslash, both in numbers and /here/, she pivoted to her current strategy.

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>>62525439
>Willing to be open with her viewers about how her day has been
>Traumadumps to her viewers in members
>Asks for viewer's help with things
>All of the above has been labeled as gfe
>When Shiori does it, it's suddenly not gfe at all
Literally no one that shitposts about Shiori watches streams. It's really funny to see posts like this.

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>>62525507
Those were her words, not mine. Just look it up.

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>>62525728
kill yourself

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>>62501778
Was she in Sports Fes or did I imagine that?

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>>62525728
>look up something that the vtuber shiori didnt say
>look up something irrelevant to the current vtuber.
no, i dont think i will, sister.

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Ignorance sure is a bliss I guess.

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>>62525911
nobody will miss you when you're gone

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>>62525794
Nevermind. OP said one on one. I get confused by the ever moving goal posts with her.

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>>62525911
Hololive is a fresh start and a blank slate.
If that can apply to Fauna and Mumei, it's fair to apply it to Shiori.

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>>62525998
Not just 1-on-1, it has to be a PLANNED 1-on-1 because OP is a faggot and wants to exclude the open VC 1-on-1's she's already had with Mori and Fauna

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>>62526015
It even applied to Pekora. She was one of the most hated when she joined

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>>62501778
As long as she doesnt collab with homos its fine, but shes really mssing out on her idol journey(if she really wants to be one)

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>>62526113
How so? She's been participating in collabs and openVC, she's been getting to know her senpais, she's working on a cover. What am I missing?

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>>62524750
The fighting between unicorns and Tempus fans is limited to /vt/ and is rarely seen anywhere else. There is no sign that CGDCT will disappear and Tempus barely show up in 1% of the HoloEN collabs.

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>>62526140
Nothing really shes doing fine but shes i this weird little sport where she still kind of feels like shes outside the box, i figure she probably just needs more time, its good to see the few early days with advent were probably just debut jitters and shes been better interacting with her genmates

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>>62525439
Where did she say that?

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>>62525911
This isn't a case of ignorance, just denial.

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>>62526015
>"Hololive is where evil sluts become born again virgins"
And people say letting these people in isn't bad for the company image.

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>>62527033
oh hey thats exactly how fauna and mumei were treated. funny you say that.

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>>62502239
yeah, kronii for example didn't get to where she was now so soon, it took about a year for the drama to happen and her unicorns abandoning her cause of it

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>>62527382
Kronii happened as soon as Tempus collab ban was over.
If tempus existed prior to Council, the same result would have happened, 1 year earlier. Same with Ame.
Tempus already exists now and Shiori hasn't budged.
>why didn't she talk to JP then?
Because they're fucking japanese perhaps? They don't speak good enough english?

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>>62520976
You need money and/or charisma for that. Do you think anons here (including myself) have what it takes?

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>>62524227
>Somewhat paradoxically a fake relationship requires real commitment to the bit.
This is what it comes down to for most people. These girls make a lot of fucking money, there should at least be some kind of standard.

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>>62518367
“I only collab with my friend, so please be nice to them ok?”
such ambiguity

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>SHIORI PLEASE. PLEASE CLARIFY WHAT YOU SAID 4 MONTHS AGO. PLEASE. I'M GOING INSANE. I THINK ABOUT IT EVERY DAY. PLEASE JUST CLARIFY IT. PLEASE. PLEASE. I NEED TO KNOW. PLEASE. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.

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>>62524440
There's a massive precedence for mixed collabs starting drama

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>>62508533
Well that and her old clique made it super obvious to her that they wanted to leech off her success so she doesn't want to involve herself with them anymore either.

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>>62501778
"Respect my collab choices"

Meaning: "If I collab it's on my terms which might mean never."

schizos: "SHE WANTS DICK DICK DICK DICK DICK DICK DICK DICK DICK SHE WILL FUCK ALL THE HOLOSTARS ON STEAM AT THE SAME TIME AND SHE WILL MAKE THEM RAPE YOUR OSHI!!!!"

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>>62503156
>another threadreader
I swear none of you even know what she actually said

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>>62501778
Where's the NTR stream? /vt/ told me that there was supposed to be an earthshattering cucking stream.

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>>62501778
Shiori W. She's the anti-nerissa

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Any time now she will roll out the cuck content. Just wait two more months. For sure.

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>>62530929
More than likely she was riding the high of her getting in, and wanting to double down on the whole "I'm not calling anyone senpai because i was around before any of them huehuehue"
Then she probably realized she needs to build her foundation, and also that no one really cares anymore because she is the stigma of the wave, and Nerissa basically took the sting out by collabing with Reimu and Oniigiri to basically, indifference

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>>62517386
Shiori has a small (relatively) but rich fanbase