[ 3 / biz / cgl / ck / diy / fa / g / ic / jp / lit / sci / tg / vr / vt ] [ index / top / reports / report a bug ] [ 4plebs / archived.moe / rbt ]

Due to resource constraints, /g/ and /tg/ will no longer be archived or available. Other archivers continue to archive these boards.Become a Patron!

/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

View post   

[ Toggle deleted replies ]
File: 1.81 MB, 1919x1079, 1614566442887.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] [report]
6340967 No.6340967 [Reply] [Original]

This time with a less fucked up OP Edition

What is /asp/?
A thread where we discuss our vtuber aspirations! Whether it's agency-based or independent, let's help each other grow and make it as entertainers. Indies are welcome to join, but shill responsibly. Share what knowledge, insights, what works/doesn't work for you. Remember to do your research before providing personally identifying information to companies online!

Do I need an expensive, fully rigged Live2D model to be a vtuber?
No! You can always start out as a pngtuber!

Where can I learn how to Live2D rig avatars?
Check out Brian Tsui's (of Iron Vertex) YouTube channel!

Where can I find artists/riggers?
Skeb.jp, ArtStation, DeviantArt, Twitter, Reddit, etc.

Where can I learn how to digital market myself?

Where can I find some good games to stream?

Twitch or Youtube?
Multistream to both.

General: https://pastebin.com/AJLkFrGK
OpSec Guide: https://pastebin.com/2mkc8x9P

Stay grounded, stay hopeful. Don't kill yourself yet

Previous Thread: >>6309871

>> No.6341538
File: 476 KB, 381x879, a_chan.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] [report]

1- What are your short term goals? (4-5 months out)
2- What are your long term goals? (6 months and beyond)
3- What is a specific aspect of vtubing you are working on right now?
4- What are metrics are you using to measure your progress?
5- Are those metrics useful and helping you out?
6- What are some personal milestones? (non-numbers based)
7- With what you've learned so far, what's some advice you would have told yourself?

>> No.6342106

I just wanna play with friends.

>> No.6342233

Thank you for fixing my fuck up.

1. Stream more consistently on a schedule, instead of just when I feel like it.
2. Get to 300 followers and maybe get at least 1 twitch payout.
3. Nothing specific. I'm just doing art and gaming.
4. Follower count and engagement with my non-art tweets. (and art tweets, but that's different measure of success)
5. It's steadily growing and some people are following me even when I'm not live, so word is getting around at least.
6. Milestones I've gotten or want? I guess I did get 150 followers, though at least 80 were from old account and probably dead.
7. Don't worry about streaming while a friend is streaming. Everyone streams at the same time and it's just inescapable the more friends you make.

>> No.6342382

>3- What is a specific aspect of vtubing you are working on right now?
I answered the rest in a previous thread last night, but this is a new question.

I'm working on getting rid of my "uhms" and "uhs" by learning to just pause and let there be silence. It's really difficult and I'm having a ton of trouble with it because going "uhhh" to fill in the gap where my brain is trying to think of something new to say is so natural. I've been doing this for over 20 years of my life and I'm trying to slowly unlearn it.

If any anons have a good resource on how to deal with that, or if they've found a way they've handled it themselves, I'm looking for suggestions.

>> No.6342599

So far I've just been practicing saying something while recording. I feel bad with how much silence there is while I gather thoughts, so it's not working out well.

>> No.6342637

Don't think.
Just do.

>> No.6342719

Yeah, I'm finding out very quickly it's a lot more difficult to be doing so many things at the same time. Playing the game, watching chat (I get no viewers, but just in case someone pops in, you know?), and trying to carry a line of thought in my head and verbalize it properly. It's a lot harder than I thought it'd be, so I'm falling back on habit, which is to fill in dead air with "uhhhh" and "uhmmmm"

Made me go back to watching some of the HoloEN's early streams, like Gura's Minecraft streams and I'm blown away by how effortlessly she just has a conversation by herself (because chat's moving way too fast) over 2-3 hours.

>> No.6342826

I'm good at talking to myself for a long time with no input, I just have lots of filler as I finish a thought.

>> No.6342924

That's fair. Looks like we're looking to work on different things then. Good luck in improving on that aspect of your stream, anon. I'll see you out there on twitch some day.

>> No.6343519

>1- What are your short term goals? (4-5 months out)
My short term goals were to keep up a consistent streaming schedule, do a weekly japanese lesson, and collab with other vtubers
I mostly have succeeded on the first point with the longest gap between streams being a week due to life issues, and this week has been a bit shaky too because of family visiting but for the most part i've managed four streams a week
the second part has been somewhat shaky because the further i got with me lessons the more I was afraid that I would be leaving people out. i recently have taken to a newer approach for grammar that I'm hoping feels a bit more accessible though!
It wasn't until a month into vtubing that I did my first collab, but since then i've had a fair amount; i don't really ask for them but i've never rejected an offer from someone asking to do one!
2- What are your long term goals? (6 months and beyond)
My long term goals were to have covered an entire textbook worth of japanese grammar on stream and to put out multiple cover songs!
In regards to the JP lessons, I did get about 75% through with the textbook I was using but as I mentioned, I took a look at what I was doing and sort of went back to the beginning.
as for the the other goal I've put out a couple covers and recorded the vocals for some others, so i'd say i've succeeded there! I've also put out random short sloppy covers on twitter that aren't mixed by someone with mixing knowledge which is always fun
3- What is a specific aspect of vtubing you are working on right now?
I'd like to improve my networking and outreach, especially towards non-vtuber related communities
4- What are metrics are you using to measure your progress?
I guess average viewership and social media interactions are the only quantifiable things I can think of but its not something that I really worry about all that much?
5- Are those metrics useful and helping you out?
I think it helps me know what people do and don't enjoy; I've had some streams that have high numbers and other that have low numbers when they're the same content
6- What are some personal milestones? (non-numbers based)
I was able to do an 11 hour stream recently and it was really fun to push myself to pretty much be talking the whole time! and I know you said non numbers related but during that stream i was somehow able to maintain a consistent double digit viewership after a reid which felt really satisfying!
7- With what you've learned so far, what's some advice you would have told yourself?
I could have networked and PNGtubed a few weeks earlier instead of streaming on a different account to get my reps in
Networking in general outside of vtuber circles is something that I should have done from the start!

>> No.6343853

It's always nice to see you post in these threads Elliot. How was Mario Party?

>> No.6344301

I want to get used to streaming, and have at least one stream where things don't go wrong. I know I should embrace the scuff, but that doesn't make it less shit when I have to take a few minutes mid-stream to rejigger audio-levels.
Hit affiliate, find people to commission for L2D art/rigging, and get some growth with fans on Twitter, rather than other chuubas
Networking. I've done some, and it lead to a decent chunk of growth, I just find it exhausting, because going after bigger chuubas is clout-chasing, but I dislike men-in-hoodies.
Also, filler words. I'm good at avoiding dead-air, even if it's just chatter. But I need to avoid umming and ahhing for this, because I do know what I want to say, i'm just used to peppering my speech with them to slow down; also I need to be more concise and non-repetitive in my speaking, as well as avoiding circular reasoning.
Average Viewers, and proportion of chat that's messages, not commands.
Sort of. I need to switch things around a bit, and figure out whether growth per game is better on different days or longer streams. I don't have enough data yet.
Non-numeric? I guess make networking more natural. Currently, I set aside three half-hour blocks in the day, and sit down and search twitter for smaller chuubas, and start answering questions they've posted recently, and going back to previous notifications.
It's fucking tiring.
I also want to expand networking so it's not just female chuubas. But all the small male streamers (probably including me) are terrible.
Consider spending some cash on transitions. They're too hard, and it's going to take you ages to learn how to do them.

>> No.6344360

i would like to be able to stream more but inlaws are in the house until monday so if i want to stream it has to like be guerilla when people are gone

>> No.6344783

Failure is most bitter once you've tasted the honeyed drop from the mead of success. Sucks about the streaming, but good job on filling some of your progress bars. I don't catch your streams nearly as much as I want to but keep it up!

>> No.6345233

> 1- What are your short term goals? (4-5 months out)
Start streaming and keep a consistent schedule, hopefully by next month at the latest.
> 2- What are your long term goals? (6 months and beyond)
Get any sort of traction. Hopefully have better internet by then so I can stream big boy games.
> 3- What is a specific aspect of vtubing you are working on right now?
Right now I'm collecting a bunch of images to kitbash a png out of with my very bad image editing skills. Also got a macro pad so I have a dedicated way to change expressions and stuff.
> 4- What are metrics are you using to measure your progress?
Live viewers going up as I continue streaming.
> 5- Are those metrics useful and helping you out?
I'd assume so? More people watching means I'm doing something right.
> 6- What are some personal milestones? (non-numbers based)
Get one of those comments saying "I was having a shitty day, but then I saw your stream and it instantly got better." I'd really like to do something like that.
> 7- With what you've learned so far, what's some advice you would have told yourself?
Don't get caught up with what big brands are doing because it isn't worth the time or money (thankfully I've only spent time), just start streaming already.

>> No.6345272

>Get one of those comments saying "I was having a shitty day, but then I saw your stream and it instantly got better."
that's wholesome as fuck, i'm adding this to my list of personal achievements

>> No.6345358

It always makes my day better by proxy when a streamer I watch gets one of those comments, too. Not VTubers, but Jerma and SimpleFlips both get a lot of those and it's super heartwarming.

>> No.6345457

when someone that watched me told me that, that i was an inspiration to them and that they see me (male) as an idol.... having someone cheer you on like that really puts you on cloud nine

>> No.6345479

It's less than 24 hours until the female Nijisanji audition period ends... I still haven't finished.
My last audition video didn't even get any views, it's been hard to get the motivation to put a bunch of effort into making a video that I'll get filtered out before it's even looked at.
Any tips for the form filling?

>> No.6345786

Do you HAVE to be a singer and/or artist to make it in this scene? I fucking suck at both and I have no interest in taking either hobby up. Can you make it on personality and gaming skills alone?

>> No.6345828

>Can you make it on personality and gaming skills alone?

>> No.6345872

short answer, no.
long answer, don't look at it terms of established talent, but rather what VALUE you bring to your audience. you're essentially telling your viewers that they should exchange some amount of hours of their day to watch you, so what is the value are they getting from it?

you've got youtube channels like VSauce, Hank Green and Kurzgesagt who do educational stuff, but people still watch them because they're getting some value out of the videos they watch. ask yourself what value your viewers are getting from you regarding you personality and gaming skills. the easiest question is to rewatch your streams and ask whether you would watch yourself.

>> No.6346143

Is it something of value if it's showing someone attempting to progress in their skills?

>> No.6346204

Nyart but only if it's entertaining

>> No.6346231

Not sure about everything, but people seemed to enjoy my japanese learning streams and helping me out.

(Fun tip, I've failed captcha 5 /times so far)

>> No.6346311

>1- What are your short term goals? (4-5 months out)
I want to learn how to livestream and turn my broadcasts into digestable shortform content

>2- What are your long term goals? (6 months and beyond)
Improve my workflow, learn what content I'm good at making, and learn how to make good thumbnails and video titles

>3- What is a specific aspect of vtubing you are working on right now?
I'm creating content that I can use to get my name out there (think song covers)

>4- What metrics are you using to measure your progress?
Watching the improvement of my content

>5- Are those metrics useful and helping you out?
I don't know, I'm still new but I don't think that tying my success to numbers will be good for my long term mental health. I'd rather measure my current self to my past self.

>6- What are some personal milestones? (non-numbers based)
Getting into nijisanji

>7- With what you've learned so far, what's some advice you would have told yourself?
Start creating as soon as possible, it doesn't matter how bad your videos and livestreams are no one will watch you. Create things so you can get better and apply to nijisanji.

>> No.6346348

I want to make some friends.

>> No.6346411

>1- What are your short term goals? (4-5 months out)
Reach out and get to know new people. Bond with streamers I already know. Create a schedule I can properly stick to. Develop habits.
>2- What are your long term goals? (6 months and beyond)
Proper speaking and voice skills. Good life / stream balance. Dedicated audience. Better social package-
>3- What is a specific aspect of vtubing you are working on right now?
Voice. Speaking is everything.
>4- What are metrics are you using to measure your progress?
Projects completed. Names I recognize from people who stick around. People I feel comfortable with talking.
>5- Are those metrics useful and helping you out?
Yes. If someone tunes in and sticks around I have clear proof that what I'm doing is worthwhile. It can't be that bad.
>6- What are some personal milestones? (non-numbers based)
Receiving fanart. Raids by people I look up to.
>7- With what you've learned so far, what's some advice you would have told yourself?
Browse less, rep more. Don't wait for people to approach you.

>> No.6346584

It can be, look at Ludwigs pokemon Black/White 2 Nuzlocke https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLLGT0cEMIAzcGzh3hwX_hAaROY6YDECeJ he's absolutely shit at the start and gets progressively better.

>> No.6346692

sounds boring as fuck and i'd only watch it as a 5 minute long montage that sums up 1 year of progress. i don't care to watch streamers struggling at something over the span of months.

>> No.6347223

it depends, artfags for some reason really like watching newbies do their reps
it's kind of weird, but some really like it, watching someone struggle progressively less and less to draw as they study and practice

>> No.6347252

language learning streams seem pretty popular too; i think it really just depends on the skill
i feel like improving at gaming isn't as attention grabbing

>> No.6347295

I forgot to mention Alice's guitar streams, this is kind of out of order but you can watch her get better at guitar and it's pretty cool seeing her progress in skill https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLT4Tw6XwV72ip9XP-nvLB_tRNX6kEg0jh

you said you have no interest in music and that's fine, but take the core concept of what she's doing and apply it to something else, maybe it's coding, math, learning about animals, cultural discovery. Then as you get better you could make videos showing off whatever skill or knowledge that you've learned.

>> No.6347425

Oh I'm a seperate Anon. I actually plan on getting Rocksmith and streaming that.

>> No.6347949

Just please don't do Duolingo, I get that it's a gameified looking program, but it's such a bad language learning tool. If anything, ask your chat to help you learn.

>> No.6348059

What are some oversaturated and underused niches in the ENVtuber industry? (When I say niche, I mean like "role", like ara ara onee-san and such)

>> No.6348186

>Innocent pettanko
>Ara ara onee-sama
>Demon Lord
>Bishounen aristocrat
>Disinterested art streamer

>> No.6348287

How can someone have 300 followers, just like 4 chatters in a slow stream and they not respond to half the comments?

>> No.6348472

Underused ones are evil scientists, martial artists (I only know one), superheroes, salaryman, schoolboy, Athlete, Inventor/engineer

>> No.6348945

for my language streams, i personally did it as a lecture stream where i would teach the audience the concepts i learned
however, with japanese, i'm now using as program called Bunpro which is pretty neat!

>> No.6349680

I'm not up to date with nijisanji but wasn't there supposed to be an English homo branch? When do they get announced?

>> No.6349698

Nijisanji EN Males auditions are still open until August 1st. No other male vtubers are expected to be announced.

>> No.6349719

Oh I see, thanks anon.

>> No.6349728

I think they reopened Holostar auditions a few months back but I don't think it was for an english branch.

>> No.6350506

Nice! I've thought about doing English teaching streams, since I've been an ESL teacher for years, but I don't think that's a good avenue to go for.

>> No.6350541

With the amount of ESL people i've seen in these threads I feel like it wouldn't even be that bad of an idea
Hell, I feel like even english speakers could get something out of that, watching english being taught from an ESL perspective as opposed to someone who grew up naturally learning the language!

>> No.6350561

fuck, I want to stop sounding like an eslchad

>> No.6350632

find a way to turn it into a buff. accents can be cute.

>> No.6350720

Thanks! I've been TEFL/TESOL certified for a long time, too. English is a very difficult language to learn. I think I'd rather do reading streams than strictly language instructional streams, though. I'm the same musicanon/barbershop anon who's been posting in these threads for the past few weeks. I am a teacher in my real life, so my professor character is barely kayfabe.

Don't be ashamed of an accent, everyone's got one, even native speakers.

>> No.6350879 [SPOILER] 
File: 287 KB, 613x505, 1625946745553.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] [report]

always glad to see more teacher chuubas popping up! it's so cool that you're able to do all that barbershop stuff on the fly as well!

>> No.6350960

Oh hey, you were in my stream the other night! Sorry, I'll make sure to sub on the chuuba account. I saw you do a lot of FE streams, that's great.

If I was doing literature streams, say, poetry, would people like short, non-technical explanations of the poems afterward, followed by another reading?

>> No.6351036

I think poetry lends itself a lot better to those kinds of explanations than novels would at least; I think talking about the material would make for interesting content.
Speaking of reading streams, I would also recommend giving teruteru a look since he does a lot of those as well!

>> No.6351561

How do you guys get artwork to use?

>> No.6351590

cheap skebs or twitter commissions

>> No.6351603

I gave up on auditioning to niji and I'll just wait prism to open theirs.

>> No.6351642

You usually commission it (skeb or somewhere else) or draw it yourself. I'm in the mood to draw though, so if you're comfortable with posting or linking your design, I can make some for you anon.

>> No.6352348

I work for Niji and I'll let you in if I get to paizuri your tiddies IRL

>> No.6352565

Do you hope to get goslings

>> No.6352589

a little bit, actually

>> No.6352880

That would certainly be a weird sensation, though I can't say I'd hate it. I've had anons say that if I got into NijiEN, they'd be fans and send SCs, though that might just be them taking the piss.

>> No.6353014

As a ryuguard I can say that unity within Niji is strong. I don't know how much I would watch but if you got in I'd obviously follow and watch clips.

>> No.6353109

What exactly is a gosling?

>> No.6353154

...how did you find this board and not know what a gosling is?

>> No.6353226

I mean I just found out what the word was the other day and I'm literally vtubing (with an audience).

It just means someone who is in love with a vtuber. So your goslings are people who are hopelessly in love with you, even though they know they can never be with you.

>> No.6353235

no I don't want them, I'd rather have people hang out then obsessive fans asking where I like

>> No.6353240

By watching VTubers? Does gosling just mean someone that posts pictures of Ryan Gosling being autistic?

>> No.6353271

Oh, that sounds awful. I doubt anyone would get a crush on me, though, so I'm safe.

>> No.6353285

If they actually keep their distance from me and don't hop into my DMs, yeah, kinda.
It's nice meaning something to people but having to outright reject people makes me cringe.

>> No.6353336

You just cursed yourself into having devoted goslings, anon

>> No.6353344

What are your thoughts on being fujo bait, /asp/?

>> No.6353384

I want to die in the arms of a fujo

>> No.6353430

I do not mind at all in being fujo bait, no do I mind being depicted in fujo fanart only so long as I'm not depicted as an uke

>> No.6353531

It can work but its incredibly difficult to pull off well as a western vtuber, but in theory, nothing wrong with it.

>> No.6353605

What overlays do you guys use, and think are worth keeping? I see some people who have the entire screen crowded, and then others who only have the game

I've got:
- Chat (fades after 30 sec)
- Follower/Dono subscriber alert
- Follower goal

That's it. And the follower goal is one I'm tempted to scrap, especially as we surprisingly broke it in the first stream this month.

>> No.6353632

It's out of my hands completely, so I don't mind

>> No.6353671

I doubt I have the voice for it but being flirty with other guys isn't outside of my comfort zone
the rest is just based on the artwork and voice

>> No.6353686

What should I do if my voice is incredibly boring?

>> No.6353879

Just the chat + your avatar is what I find ideal. Alerts are important to get people interacting and have their name seen/read on stream.

>> No.6353993

Post a vocaroo.

>> No.6354272

Have interesting content. But in truth, people are very rarely boring when they're sharing the things they love. Don't be so down on yourself.

>> No.6354686

1 - Get a few regulars. Get senpai to notice me or whatever.
2 - Keep it up. I'm job hunting, so I'm hoping to still get myself to stream whenever one of those comes through. Hopefully within 6 months. It's tough out there.
3 - Networking, I guess. It's gone pretty much nowhere so far.
4 - How much I can work up the motivation to stream. Right now it's not so great. I have practically nothing but time, but I only go on a couple times a week. It seems like most Vtubers say they're introverts offline, but I'd consider myself more extravert and it's tough being "on" for several hours with no one to return that energy.
5 - Mostly on a personal level, I guess.
6 - Make some friends with other Vtubers. Ideally get some collaborations going.
7 - It's been a rough year. Don't let something that should be fun make it rougher.

Not that anon, but any insight on, like, neutral scientist? Though I might also fall into the inventor/engineer category.

>> No.6355696

hey you talentless fucks is https://twitter.com/AxecutionerCh one of yours

>> No.6355769

If they are they haven't posted here openly

>> No.6355774

doesn't look like me

>> No.6355848

Why selfpost like this

>> No.6355910

Remember /asp/ies, your voice should be in the yellow, not the green. The game's loudest noises should barely touch the boundary between the two. It's better for the viewer to have to move the volume slider down a little than to strain after having maxed out all the volume sliders.

Set up a 1:4 or 1:8 ratio Compressor near the top of the yellow and a hard Limiter before it goes into the red.

>> No.6355984

is it better to have a shitty self drawn PNG or just use a default for your software? I am absolute shit at character design and art

>> No.6355997

png, don't use defaults

>> No.6356196

Do you guys think there'd be an audience for beginner/intermediate artfag practice streams? Illustration is something I really want to improve on, but since I'm not at any crazy level I dunno if people would care to watch. I'd probably stream something like figure studies and still lifes to start with, with sources so people can follow along.

>> No.6356360

You're gonna need some very strong zatsudan skills for people to give a shit, since one of the big draws of art streams is being good at art. If you don't have that, you're gonna have to make up for it in some other way.

>> No.6358257
File: 398 KB, 1920x2160, 1621816898872.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] [report]

wanted to post this here to get some feedback; I used a similar layout a while ago but I went back and modified it so I could use it for 16:9 and 4:3 streams
I know a lot of people talk about what is and isn't too much when it comes to overlays; some people talk about how all you need is a chat to go along with your game, others prefer to have chat/follower/sub/dono notifs + name of game + other moving pieces so I tried to settle for something in the middle with just followers and subs + chat
I also wanted to commit hard to the Fire Emblem aesthetic since that's a majority of what I play; would this layout seem off for any other game being played on it?
also yeah i know i missed a small line in the bottom example

>> No.6358316

looks fine. personally, i think the Follower and Subscriber thing takes up too much space

>> No.6358352
File: 42 KB, 680x780, 1588108674514.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] [report]

>game audio red
>music audio red
>voice audio red
Your job to turn down the volume buddy.

>> No.6358885

I agree with the other anon, narrow the bottom part of the frame a bit maybe so there’s more game on screen.
Also I would use a slighter easier on the eye colour for the background. I love the design of these overlays but it’s a bit hard to look at. Maybe a slightly less saturated green or a teal?

>> No.6359187

I see. Since I haven't streamed before I imagine it wouldn't be the best to start with that, then. Or would you have any suggestions for something engaging to add to an art stream?

>> No.6359605

whatever you want, really, as long as it's entertaining. do the entire stream while singing, if you can't sing, hum, or beatbox or some other musical stuff. maybe you're good with puns and really bad jokes. or voice acting impressions, accents. really anything goes.

>> No.6361980

Set challenges in the title and thumbnail to get people interested, offer to draw peoples pngs (they love that on twitter), do art tags and art memes

>> No.6362063

Just sent off my Niji female auditions, honestly I'll be happy if they even get one view

>> No.6362186

Thank you so much! I never published a video before so I just checked my audio levels to make sure they weren't too loud!
You're a lifesaver, anon!

>> No.6362556

May we both be gifted with a view from the Nijisanji themselves
How did you think you did? I'm still video editing, I'm in hell

>> No.6362585

Good luck anon!! What did you send in?

>> No.6362890

For better or worse, no one's complained about my voice always being in the red. Maybe I'm just really that soft-spoken.

>> No.6363251

The honour of a single Niji view. I think I did okay and it was a fun learning experience, but I'm not expecting anything to come of it. Good luck anon, you've still got plenty of time!

Thanks anon! I did character intros, a bit of zatsudan, singing and playing a musical instrument.

>> No.6363816

Thanks! I'll keep that in mind; the size of the bottom of the frame itself is gonna be tricky to mess around with but i'll at least make the boxes smaller.
Adjusting the saturation should be easy though; I did it once before so I'll just turn it down a bit more so its not as harsh

>> No.6367400

>watching IRyS debut
>shading on the nose makes it weird
i'm afraid for my own rig now, anons...

>> No.6370890
File: 295 KB, 486x463, 1623226205458.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] [report]

So I wanted to know, how much would it cost to get everything ready to debut, hard money numbers? I'm talking about PC, artist, l2d rigging, mic and iPhone for face tracking. For the artist I'm expecting at least 300 bucks for png design, not sure about the rest.

>> No.6371017

completely from scratch? like $6k

>> No.6371087

2k PC, 1-2k rigging depending on where you go, 100-200 on mic, then 300 for the iphone. optionally you can go to a character designer for the character design, then a separate Live2D artist so you can get a nice design as well

>> No.6371915

I have an artist in mind for character design and then find a Live2D artist.
That's a bit steep but not as bad as I thought. If I don't hear from Niji I'd have to go balls deep in order to debut as an indie.

>> No.6372573

You honestly don't need to go ham all at once unless you just have the money to burn. Realistically unless you've very talented and somewhat experienced making content both on and off stream you won't do very well for a long time.

>> No.6373877

I'd wait for PC part prices to go down desu. They're still fucked atm. Especially GPUs

>> No.6374101

this, you can probably get a character design, live2d model, and a rigger done in the meantime, since they take like 2.5-3 months.

>> No.6374767

I've been hearing that for a couple years now. Fuck crypto at this rate nothing will be affordable.
The funny thing is that I may be able to get the PC faster than the character design, l2d model and rigger. I talked to my family about getting a decent PC "for work" but if NijiEN auditions don't pan out and I think they won't then getting the rest is gonna be more difficult, to say the least.

>> No.6377458

it took me about 2 months after settling on a design before i was able to find an artist whose style i liked enough to commission (and i also lucked out hard by landing a lucky commission opening). so the search might take a while.

>> No.6379242

I jus stumbled upon Nizima and there are premade models ready for sale, so to speak. Could start with that before getting an actual design. I also found people selling models for dirt cheap or just for free use for content creation, feels too good to be true.

>> No.6379252

Half tempted to make an /asp/ group myself, like an actual vtuber group and not just a discord.
But I really don't want to associate with you faggots. And I'm assuming yall act like the other vtubers that keep popping up on my twitter acting like a normal twitter account bitching about random nonsense and chatting like normal.

Fucking hell faggots, even if you're a nobody indie, this is your business account essentially. use it for business purposes and networking, stop venting and acting like its your personal blog.

>> No.6380066

You don't sound like you'd be very fun to work with

>> No.6380258
File: 13 KB, 480x360, hqdefault.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] [report]


>> No.6380473

what's stopping you?

>> No.6380734

I've been trying to do some stuff in unity but I keep getting "error CS0246: the type or namespace name 'VRMSpringBone' could not be found" on a plugin
is there an easier way to go from blender to unity?

>> No.6380751

Because I've associated myself with enough 4chan groups to know better.

>> No.6380959

So continuing from here, what's best for facetracking? I said iPhone because that's what people say here works best, which model?

>> No.6380979
File: 321 KB, 2560x1440, ArtHoe_004_0036.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] [report]

1- What are your short term goals? (4-5 months out)
>quit my wage cuck job and vtube full-time
2- What are your long term goals? (6 months and beyond)
>release my visual novel and start a kickstarter
3- What is a specific aspect of vtubing you are working on right now?
>sketch comedy and story telling
4- What are metrics are you using to measure your progress?
> youtube studio
5- Are those metrics useful and helping you out?
>subscriber counts, like counts, view counts, number of comments
6- What are some personal milestones? (non-numbers based)
>I'd like to release a visual novel compiling all my best vtuber sketches
7- With what you've learned so far, what's some advice you would have told yourself?
>Be confident in yourself! You're gonna make it!

feel free to watch my latest video:

>> No.6380990

all iphones after iPhone X have the Face ID tracking tech you need for vtube studio to work.

>> No.6381098

Easy enough. Vtube studio directly on phone or can be bought from steam?

>> No.6381139

you need both. it's like $25 on the iphone, then you can either wifi or usb tether it to your PC so you can transmit the face tracking data from the phone to your computer's instance of vtube studio.

>> No.6381285

So instead you decided to use 4chan as your personal blog and whine like an 8 year old. Hope you feel better onii-chan

>> No.6381341

>any insight on, like, neutral scientist?
you don't have to actually be evil, think something like Dr.doofenshmirt from Phineas and Ferb https://youtube.com/watch?v=GK-6Td9INxM or mojo jojo from ppg https://youtube.com/watch?v=7XZlxsJoZkU

>> No.6381517

I used my school subscription to Adobe and a free trial to Cubism, on an old computer I got using the GI bill for undergrad. I payed like $100 for another webcam.

I guess my long-term goal is to get in the black from that $100 initial investment.

>> No.6381525

I just looked and it's "free" but I asume it has in-app purchases, what do you get in-app? Watermark removal? On Steam is the same but also has a purchase to remove watermark.

>> No.6381575

the free version has a time limit on how long it can stay connected with your pc

>> No.6381638

For Cubism? like 40 days I think. My avatar is literally the first thing I ever drew digitally, and the first thing I ever rigged.

>> No.6381657

no, vtube studio

>> No.6381686

ohhh I see I see, thank you.

>> No.6381695

*once it's rigged you can just copy paste it to vtube studio, which you can use in the free trial if you position your avatar properly in OBS studio to hide the watermark.

>> No.6382287

My internet is garbage but I really want to just start as a VTuber, so I thought about making regular videos. Problem is, I don't know what types of videos I could make to integrate my avatar in it. I want to make regular content like art and videogames but I'd also really like to make educational videos about history and such. How do I start?

>> No.6382347

write out some scripts that you can read out for your videos

>> No.6382708

This is what I do. I make recommendation vids, which I find tend to be better received than simple review vids.

>> No.6385395

don't give up, /asp/ies
Get out of your head
Life is only what you make it
You're gonna be okay

So take a step and move it, move it,
'Lest you try, you won't get through it,
everybody's gonna know your name!

>> No.6388156

i feel like i've seen a couple of cavewoman chuubas but no cavemen yet
i remember someone talking about doing a character like Carl from Aqua Teen Hunger Force; not necessarily an Ugly Bastard (though that isn't very explored either) but a sort of blue collar hick kind of character

>> No.6388299

Shit, if someone is watching this crap, maybe anyone can make it.

>> No.6389016

it's cheesy, but sparks really is an uplifting song
off with your heads is also motivating but i feel like this song hits a different chord

>> No.6389416

>tfw too lazy to learn Live2D
>just animate a bunch of seemingly random movements in Premiere and pretend I'm an actual vtuber

Will anyone actually care?

>> No.6389513

What about lip sync, anon…

>> No.6389535

My character doesn't have a face so it's fine

>> No.6389575
File: 12 KB, 200x190, 1506614452663.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] [report]


>> No.6390172

im unreasonably angry

>> No.6390680

I'm currently streaming to <5 viewers most streams, peaking at around 8; not yet hit affiliate, and made no money from this at all.

Currently getting to grips with making everything I can (I'm shit at art, but I can learn how to use programs and make stuff using the PC).

Is it worth making my own, low-tier, transitions and the like? Like the old Batman ones, with the logo bounces in and out of the camera?

Currently, I'm just using a fade effect, but it's basic. I've looked into getting transitions, but I don't actually have a logo yet, so I'm looking at $30+ per transition that isn't just the logo sliding in and out.

Also, I guess, should I be aiming to keep transitions themed? I've found a few places online that offer free stingers, no accredition needed, but they don't exactly fit with the avatar or game I'm running, so it seems stupid to use them. But is it more or less stupid than a scuffed homemade one, or a generic logo one?

>> No.6390768

i'll be honest, transitions don't make or break a stream. if you're capable of making your own, go ahead and try! you're not going to lose anything and you might learn some more skills.

a good source for some free transitions however is this user on pixiv booth
they're super simple but it gets the job done. if i were you, i'd focus on a readable overlay first if you don't already have one, cause you have to remember that transitions are literally 1 second of your stream

>> No.6391145


Also worth noting, if your machine old and crap like mine you might find transitions make you lag.

Before you pay for something, check you can actually run them fine.

>> No.6391679

So hypothetically if I had a relative interested in funding a small (probably 3-4 talent) vtuber org what kind of staff do you think id need besides me? i'm an experienced streamer (not big or a vtuber anything but know the technical a lot of vtuber-based knowledge because im an autist that loves the medium but what else do these companies need? legal support for the legalese BS would come with the money but is it really as simple as scout talent, vet talent, get art assets, social media shill, and go ham?

>> No.6391698

only if they're artfags.

>> No.6391890

I'm not sure if I would say that this is a good idea to do atm considering it's very hard to get into the Vtuber scene atm but if you need some reference, phase connect seemed to do a pretty ok job as a start up so maybe check their staff team

>> No.6392074

Hi, I'd be happy for some feedback about my audio. Mostly about the mic since I'm using a cheap mic with some OBS filters on top. Also I'm wondering if my ESL accent sounds weird or if it's just me.

>> No.6393306

Seconding looking at PC's staffing, I think having an art or creative director is a good call. Obviously there's differences from using different artists, but they're reasonably consistent on character designs and other art, whereas the differences in other agencies are really obvious especially for collabs.
That said unless you have a good idea of how you would differentiate yourself, you'd really have to be doing it as a passion project and be prepared to piss away money.

>> No.6393906

PR and advertisement is much more than "social media shill"
If you want a successful group you're going to need an actual PR and advertisement team and be willing to shell out large amounts of money for it.

If you're not willing to do that, there's no reason to join your group over just staying indie.

>> No.6394277
File: 65 KB, 300x300, 1591908566767.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] [report]

Don't if I can ask here or not but might as well try. My current living place is not suitable for streaming, so I want to a normal """content creator" before moving on to become pngtuber when I manage to move to a better place. Is there anywhere I can look for some free usable sound effects?

>> No.6395177

Is it okay to run a test stream through here to see if everything's set up correctly?

>> No.6395301

if you want to?

>> No.6395920

What type?
In general, plenty of royalty free music sites out there for music. You can look into gaming forums and sites for free sound effects in terms of gaming sound effects (unity has a lot of cheap or free sound packages you can pull from)
You can look into free film resources as well, they have a lot of the normal ones.

Though keep in mind if you're using free resources, a lot of times they're common so people will get a giggle out of hearing the generic clang sounds.

>> No.6396740
File: 1.94 MB, 1920x1080, asp.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] [report]

Can I...be a Vtuber, too?

>> No.6396834

I'll tell you what noone in this thread will:

>> No.6396957

No, you can only be yourself.
So be the best you that you can be!

>> No.6397114

>lots of connections to different indie chuubas
>no real aspirations to actually become a chuuba myself
>yet always feel like i'm missing out on all the fun when i'm watching them collab
i'm very tempted to just bite the bullet, but it'd feel wrong to do it for the reasons i would

>> No.6397154

Is it because you want to fuck her?
Its okay, that's the story of literally every male vtuber.

>> No.6397280

I suppose that's also a part of the reason why I haven't yet. Always rubs me the wrong way when there's a gigacollab with like nine girls and a singular dude. We all know why he's there.

>> No.6397332

tbf, that was basically my entire high school life. its not because i wanted to fuck them, girls were just the only ones who reached out to me to hang out.

>> No.6397338

Usually because he's either the group homo or has low enough testosterone that the girls feel comfortable around him

>> No.6397378

anonchama... >>6397338

>> No.6397449

Doesn't change the fact guys never invited me out but girls always would so I naturally hung out with girls.

And now I'm retarded and can't talk to dudes.

>> No.6397575

As a streamer, you'd need a reason for me to sign with you.

Presumably, you get a cut of my profits (unless you're laundering money), as you need to make the money somehow. The other option is you open a new revenue stream (like merch), and I get a cut of that (because I own rights to my current avatar).

If I'm losing money to you, but maintaining my current character (because as a new agency, who's taking some of my money, why would I start with you as a fresh character?), then I'd expect someone to do all the Charlie work.

Currently, for example, I hate having to find decent royalty free music, having to hype people up before a stream, and having to moderate chat.

Finding decent artists for skebs/commissions can be a pain, but because I'm looking for art that I like, it's not something I could easily pass off.

You'd need a PR team, and a few gophers, essentially.

>> No.6399419

I want to be a vtuber, but I have no skill that I'm top level at. And I don't know if my personality is interesting enough, I don't have that many friends, so that may be a bad sign. When I ask myself "what do you bring to the table", all I can answer with is "I just want to make a fun stream and have someone to talk to". Oh, and I'm male. Should I do it, or is time better spent actually getting good at something and then starting a channel? I just can't imagine why anyone would watch me over all the other cool vtubers Ive seen here.

>> No.6399847

No one will watch you if you don't grow a spine. Do shit you enjoying doing and engage with people who do the same thing with confidence. If you're not good at something, do it anyways and connect with people also starting or currently doing that thing. If you don't think you have anything worth something in your personality, most people won't want to stick around and find it for you. You have to find it by trying new things.

>> No.6399862

if you really wanna stream, but you also have the drive to actually get good at something, you could just stream your git-gud-journey. long term audiences love a good character arc.

>> No.6400131

thanks, bros, I needed that.

>> No.6400174

sorry, meant you

>> No.6400276

no, they really don't. stop repeating this bad advice. you're going to be a 2view for at least a year if all you're doing is streaming yourself shittily practicing guitar. this only works if you already have an established audience that will follow you through that growth. it doesn't work if you're just starting out.

>> No.6400419

being too scared to start doing anything is worse than doing something badly.

nobody is going to hold it against you if you had 2 viewers for 2 months while you did something stupid. its just extra experience for you.
as opposed to doing nothing but being salty on 4chan because you were too scared to start.

>> No.6400746

that's not the point. it's not about being scared or not. the content you've been spending the last week telling anons is shitty content. you're being disingenous by implying that anon will have an audience by streaming themselves being bad at a skill. that is objectively wrong. there is no audience for that.

>> No.6400828

two ways it could go, really. Either people are going to turn off the stream when they notice you really don't know what the fuck you're doing, or they'll stick around, maybe give you some advice, and maybe even hop on later on to check on your progress. I can assure you, even if 99 out of a hundred viewers end up fucking off immediately, it'll still be magnitudes better than attempting to develop a skill for a year for the sole purpose of having a selling point for yourself and then starting from scratch. And if we take your guitar playing example, you're still not going to be good enough after a year to keep everyone entertained. Might as well start right now.

>> No.6400864

>>two ways it could go, really. Either people are going to turn off the stream when they notice you really don't know what the fuck you're doing, or they'll stick around,
yeah, 50/50 in the same way when you buy a lotto ticket, it's 50/50 you either win or don't. piss off with your shitty advice

>> No.6400889


>> No.6400931

seethe harder, your shit advice is the reason why /wvt/ laughs at this thread

>> No.6401006

There is no audience if there is no content to begin with. Doing SOMETHING is better then nothing. Don't spent 5k on a rig or something stupid, but obs and a shitty picrew is free, start making shit.

>> No.6401046

It sounds okay to me.

>> No.6401053

>. Doing SOMETHING is better then nothing. Don't spent 5k on a rig or something stupid, but obs and a shitty picrew is free, start making shit.
still not the point.

>> No.6401103

They laugh at this thread because its filled with shitters like you who never bother to actually try and spend more time shitposting on /vt/ about why they'll never be japanese.

Its the same shit as /ic/, the advice is there, but people would rather bitch about sakimichan's success than just draw the fucking boxes.

>> No.6401206

You are fighting two different people by the way. And examples were given, people like to help out and give advice to newbies in small japanese streams. It makes sense, chat loves to backseat in the first place, so giving someone the power to influence you can attract people.

>> No.6401231

all i did was call out anon's bullshit "advice" claiming that there are audiences who would be invested in "long term character arcs" if you want to tell anons that they need to start, tell them to start making content. don't imply that there is an audience that will be invested in literal whos whose only gimmick is being bad at something.

how many ROAD TO CHALLENGER league of legends streams are there by 2views? how many ROAD TO PREDATOR apex streams are there by 2views? no one cares about literal whos and their life long journey to develop a skill

>> No.6401355

No, it's just no one cares about (you).
Two consistent viewers is much better than no viewers, it's called a starting point, in case you didn't know.

>> No.6401381

>Two consistent viewers is much better than no viewers, it's called a starting point, in case you didn't know.
you won't even get 2 consistent viewers, seethe more with your delusion

>> No.6401413

Calling people out without providing alternatives is what makes you a crab.
There'll always be flaws with any training regime, the point isn't to min-max at the start. Everyone has their own plan that works and ones that won't work for them, its something they figure out and work with after they have experience, to get started you just need 'some' plan to work with and then expand on from there.

If a fatty asked me how to get into shape, I'd say walk a few miles a day and do 50 pushups/situps/squats every day. Is it the ideal? No, but its easy to do and it gets them started on the path, after they lose a few pounds they can start adding in weights and training specific to what they're aiming for. But starting them off with something simple gets them to the starting point of caring.

>> No.6401501

Post your stats, what are you doing that's different? What's your talent? What do people watch you for and how's your growth going? You're a well of good advice, so show it to us.

>> No.6401502

>Calling people out without providing alternatives is what makes you a crab.
i don't have to provide alternatives when the point i'm making is "people do not watch literal whos be bad at a skill"

>> No.6401549

>I don't have to
because you're a crab with no intentions of helping anyone or improving yourself. you just want to find miniscule flaws in everything and tell people they're stupid for not being perfect at the start.

>> No.6401577

>you just want to find miniscule flaws in everything and tell people they're stupid for not being perfect at the start.

>> No.6401643

>b-but i didn't literally say those exact words
kill yourself ESL, nobody will miss you in your third world shit hole.

>> No.6401681

>you will only get two viewers
>you won't even get two viewers
This anon is an example of someone who will never make it, take notes everyone.

>> No.6402393

your S's are a little harsh, are you talking directly into the mic? try turning it a little to side of your mouth so it's not as harsh, might help reduce that harsh S burst of air noise. but otherwise, it seems okay.

>> No.6402521

Still waiting on those stats. Really wanna learn from a pro streamer who knows for certain what all audiences want.

Agreed. Also >>6392074 your ESL accent doesn't sound weird, pretty normal. I can still understand you.

>> No.6402779

why don't you post yours? You seem to know about what to do fairly well too. Or did that '2 viewers' thing come from experience?

>> No.6402975

Thank for the feedback !
Was wondering if I should upgrade the mic since it's a really simple headset mic. I'll see if I can maybe shift the mic arm around a bit. If that doesn't work I guess I should use a de-esser plugin ?

>> No.6403038
File: 28 KB, 1063x614, sure.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] [report]

Sure. It's not much, but enough to get affiliate. Got some nice people who like watching me struggle with japanese and programming.

So now yours.

>> No.6404260

>I guess I should use a de-esser plugin ?
don't know of any good real time de-essers that won't add latency, most filters add a (kinda) noticeable delay. might not be that bad if you're just using a png, but once you get a live2d model, the desync will be noticeable.

would definitely recommend a separate mic if you can afford it. i personally use an Elgato Wave 3 because it comes with a software mixer and it's very convenient. you can also go the XLR route with the Scarlett Solo and a Shure SM58 (i think that was the combo recommended last time), but it also takes a bit more braincells

>> No.6404356
File: 330 KB, 1776x2048, A2C93E1F-C3E5-4566-B7A9-A8644208ACFB.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] [report]

>Get in touch with several high skill artists regarding merch
>All of them are willing to work with me
I’m still a small chuuba, but I’m really excited! Not really doing this for profit, since I don’t have a big enough community for it, but I’m so happy to be able to work with some of my favorite artists!

>> No.6404383

I'll look into upgrading my mic setup when I can then. Thanks.

>> No.6404496

Merch is cute, I wish it wasn't so cost heavy to get started. Sites on demand print have poor artist cuts, so are you just paying the artist for the arts and sheets and having them printed yourself? Where at?

>> No.6404677

Honestly it’s really not that hard to manage merch yourself (instead of using things like Redbubble), especially if you’re smaller and only getting a couple orders each week.
I’m paying the artists for the art and then printing them myself. I *was* going to use Vograce, but I heard their print quality is bad and their shipping rates are expensive, so I’m looking elsewhere.

>> No.6405578

What I really want is kiss-cut clear stickers for a long time as an artist but there's no real way to print those yourself. Plus shipping.

>> No.6405806

How do the chuubas here stream collabs? Vtube Studio can't support multiple models. Do you use different tracking software or some hacky workaround?

>> No.6405850

generally just set up discord reactive images for the others and leave yourself as a live2d model since it's the simplest

>> No.6406191

There’s also obs ninja that allows you to combine sources.

>> No.6406206

Use discord and have the collab partner setup their virtual webcam and capture the source

>> No.6407726
File: 3.69 MB, 4032x3024, 20200824_181549.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] [report]

How popular are traditional art streams? I know a lot of vtubers do digital art, but desu I kind of suck at digital artwork.

>> No.6407738

they're the same thing

>> No.6407817

it'll take you like 2 weeks to get used to digital if you're fucking around with it for a few hours a day.
just do it, its better, traditional art is a meme.

also you suck at painting. if you have to reply on the medium to give it charm instead of doing it yourself, you're a hack fraud of an artist. the color pallet was good at least, but you ain't no picasso.

that aside, you can made trad art streams work, there was a bob ross knock off for awhile that did it. and wine drinking painting tutorials are a real world thing that people go to where an instructor just tells people how to paint a cat while they get drunk on wine. so i imagine it would be easy enough to port that over to streaming if you really wanted.

>> No.6407895

Fashion school pretty much killed my ability to do anything other than weirdly elongated figure drawings, but I had been thinking for a while it might be fun to do streams with fashion illustration.

>> No.6407957
File: 705 KB, 1554x1000, 23363005_p0.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] [report]

i fucking love fashion drawings. if you're actually good at it I'd dig some fucking fashion designing streams.

yeah i know you don't mean anime fashion, but if you nailed it i'd watch every fucking stream.

>> No.6408025
File: 3.08 MB, 4032x3024, 20201203_093723.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] [report]

I kind of specialize in accessory design desu, focusing on things like millinery. My actual illustration could use a bit of work though.

>> No.6408513

Is it possible to make it just by streaming or do you have to go through the tortuous pain of using Twitter? I don’t know anyone else in the Vtuber scene and I’m extremely shy so reaching out over Twitter just isn’t working for me.

>> No.6408542

discoverability doesn't exist on twitch and you can't make it if people don't know who you are

>> No.6408574

Discoverability doesn’t work on Twitter either if no one knows who you are.

>> No.6408592

that's why you need to do your Twitter reps, you fucking moron

>> No.6408638

Okay, so what the fuck are you meant to do on Twitter? Suck dick of already popular people or spam hashtags?

>> No.6408649

don't be a fucking leech and yes, spam hashtags

>> No.6408876

Just follow people who post #pngtuber and have under 30 followers, they will follow you back if you're vtuber branded, and you'll grow as they grow. Engage honestly. I did that and I now have a rad set of friends and we're all affiliate and support each other.

>> No.6409335

I'm hitting the 'start streaming' button in OBS, and it says I'm live, but Twitch says I'm not, and none of my friends have received the notification email.

Currently rebooting PC, to see if that fixes the issue. Anyone got any other ideas?

>> No.6409384

got the correct streamkey and all that set up?

>> No.6409518

Yeah, everything worked when I was streaming on Friday night. I'm trying changing the settings on quality back to standard, but I don't think those would've been a problem.

>> No.6409767

Checking OBS logs, I get :

20:16:40.167: obs-browser: WebSocket connection to 'ws://[IP and Client ID]' failed: Error in connection establishment: net::ERR_CONNECTION_REFUSED (source: [streamkit.discord]

, if that means anything

>> No.6410021

no idea what that error code means, sorry anon

>> No.6410067

It means that couldnt connect to discord's stream mode

>> No.6410103

Im not op that nametag is there since a thread in another board

>> No.6410155

No worries Anons. Thanks anyway.

I've tried recording locally, and it's doing sound okay, but coming out as a green screen - no video output. I'm gonna try re-installing OBS, see if that fixes it.

>> No.6410180
File: 335 KB, 900x900, E2lASYiX0Agr0Ed.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] [report]

>Just announced my debut for Tuesday
well I guess I'm locked in. A month ago I literally didn't have a model, now here I am about to stream soon. Here we go lads.

>> No.6410285

have you been putting in your streaming reps?

>> No.6410317


>> No.6410373

good luck aspie

>> No.6410418

good luck, i hope you've still been doing your streaming reps prior to this!

>> No.6410438
File: 72 KB, 308x382, 1486485158754.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] [report]

vtubers are not any different for normal avatar youtubers, the only aspect they could be is in the stream content, where vtubers tend to stream things like game or normie casual things, like talks, and avatar youtubers tend to do video comments. Even a lot of unknown vtubers just use static images, and the range of avatar youtubers is very wide, some use animations, others even puppets with animations and all the shit.
Puppets youtubers, 3d youtubers, vtubers, etc, all of them are avatar youtubers in general terms, so it doesn't matter what type of visual or audiovisual format you are using, it only matters that it's consistent with itself and that it's attractive in some way, and that whoever is speaking behind is interesting

>> No.6410642

>streaming reps
You mean practice streams? I have a little. I’ve tested out video and audio output settings.

>> No.6411625

Different Anon here. How would you go about practicing streams? When should the practice end to start streaming officially?

>> No.6411809
File: 44 KB, 480x360, 0.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] [report]

cute ñ ghost rigging a Live2d girl rn

>> No.6411904

just go live and start making content. can you keep talking the whole 2-3 hours? if a random viewer dropped in, would they be hooked? are you entertaining? there is no black and white line where practice ends and streaming begins, you just work it.

just don't make your big debut the first stream you've ever done because you're gonna be nervous and spill spaghetti all over the place and that'll be the first impression everyone will get of you.

>> No.6412051

This, you need to practice actually streaming first just to see if it's something you can handle doing. You really don't need a "debut" just to start.

>> No.6412503

Thank you for the info. I had that planned already but I thought I was missing out on a step.

>> No.6413104

trying to find the right sound settings for a new game is suffering. too loud in my headset, too quiet on stream.

>> No.6413218
File: 1.13 MB, 1080x1080, 1610463739068.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] [report]

Any chuubas here willing to feed a farm of chickens once a day every single day for a 30 day period? This is very important. Please drop your link if you will.

>> No.6413324

So for Nijisanji and Tsunderia or whatever auditions, do they only care about your follower count or are they actually looking at your content?

>> No.6413355

Shimada please don't scare the /asp/ies

>> No.6413360

Why do people jump top such extremes when Twitter is brought up? You don't need to just constantly be on their dick. Follow and occasionally reply to people whose content you like, make some memes and twitter content worth sharing, post art and pics of your model. Just look at what other people are doing, you need to network and make friends if you want to make it, no one gets by on their own.

Helps if you commissioned a model and your artist shares you but you don't really have that option as a selfrigged model.

>> No.6413412


>> No.6414000

I doubt they care about follower count because as morbid as it sounds, a streamer with a very small follower count, even with great content, is absolutely going to obey a corporation like Nijisanji if brought on. No drama, no fuss, and weaker negotiation skills, because why would you argue with the company that made you popular when beforehand you were nobody? Meanwhile a massive chuuba with a huge following (relative to other indie vtubers) is going to feel a bit more brazen in not following the company line since the power dynamic is a little more even. Not to mention their negotiation power with other companies who might give them a better deal than Nijisanji.

>> No.6414056

Using OBS (or SLOBS, or whatever), record locally rather than Twitch.

Start with a 30 minute video - record you playing through a single mission, session, or whatever. Give yourself a (relatively short) endgame to push through.

Now re-watch it. Check to see how badly you messed everything up. Did you say your real name? Did you accidentally break confinement?

How much dead-air did you leave?

How much blathering did you do, umming and ahhing over nothing?

Maybe do this a few times - set aside an evening after work/college to do it three times, and see if you improve after each of them.

Then go live for real the next day.

>> No.6414108

I actually think you're right, but so far every Nijisanji has had like 10k followers.

>> No.6414187

So not necessarily, from a management perspective.
While you can take advantage of new blood like that, that's usually not the intention of these companies, they want you to be successful because it makes them successful. Doormats who can be walked on mean they're also no confident, have no plans, and will be unwilling to put forth ideas or plans to management that they want to do personally which gives management something to work with.

Entry level first time employees do that all the time, they come in expecting to be told everything they're supposed to do and don't provide any ideas or skills other than warming a chair because they're afraid of offending anyone or coming off stupid. A streamer with history has confidence and ideas to bring to the table.

>> No.6414193

just fucking hit "start stream"
no one is going to watch your first couple streams anyways, just stream, and use it as a way to find issues like bandwidth issues, encoding issues, dropped frames, mic issues
then watch your stream after wards
you're going to hate the sound of your voice and think it was cringey but that's fine, find some things to improve on and then hit start stream another day and repeat

having your first stream be a big debut is god awful and only works for corporate chuubas. The reality is they do this shit internally even before their debuts, they practice stream locally and on private accounts to work everything out.

the added benefit is you will take time to amass any kind of viewership and following and can both build a small following and practice to improve at the same time if you just hit "start streaming"

>> No.6414344

NijiEN wave 1 are the ones breaking new ground, going into a new market with very little support
pretty much all of them, or at least 2/3 were top western vtubers
the EN wave had minimal support from management on tech, scheduling, content, etc, they were expected to do it all themselves, as a result they were all very popular. The same can be said about HoloEN gen1, they were basically self sufficient and Amelia did basically all the tech support on their rigs and streams instead of management
the expectations will not be as high for future waves but they do still care about your content

>> No.6414347

Both Mint and Nova were fairly big for indies and had a much more "traditional" viewership. They were plenty big.

>> No.6414485

true but nijisanji is also really unpredictable. nijiJP has had so many nobodies join them and become popular, so its hard to say if they'll stick with bigger creators or delve into smaller ones too

>> No.6414651


>> No.6414757

I-i think you're in the wrong thread, /wvt/ is down the hall

>> No.6414826

>Amelia did basically all the tech support on their rigs and streams instead of management

Is this actually sourced in a stream or something? I thought almost all of her vtuber content prior to joining was 3D models she commissioned

>> No.6415003

Dunno if this is maybe something only MusicAnon can answer, but maybe anyone can from experience, is wearing earphones as opposed to headphones better in your experience for streaming. I had a thought that maybe the slight bit of pressure the sides of my headphones put on the edges of my jaw might make me unconsciously try to avoid really opening up my mouth when speaking (and I think someone mentioned you should try and always open your mouth fully when speaking)

>> No.6415008

tech support on their rigs as in their computers, their setups, and their OBS
Gura, Mori, and Kiara have all mentioned they basically had Amelia on speed dial during their first streams in case something broke

>> No.6415100

I know I've got vtuber brain if "rig" is immediately associated with a Live2D rig, thanks for clearing that up. Is there a reason management didn't help, like not having enough EN staff? Or do you think it was just to help build a sense of team between the girls

>> No.6415150

Most likely the reason ame helped was because she was more readily available than staff.

>> No.6415221

for new branches the management staff is pretty light which is why I mentioned that the girls they pick to spearhead the new branches are usually go getters and more qualified instead of picking up relative nobodies
they need to be able to handle things in case management has a language barrier or there's not senpai around to help them out

>> No.6415320

I’m not the music anon, but singers wear headphones when recording so there shouldn’t be any issues. Though wearing earbuds for long periods of time is a great way to get an eventual ear infection

>> No.6415988

>1- What are your short term goals? (4-5 months out)
I need better time management when it comes to scheduling streams (and what not). I also want to figure out what other form of video content I want to produce, aside from streaming.
>2- What are your long term goals? (6 months and beyond)
I'd hope for a small community, at most, and to one-up my previous content. I'd really like to up the quality of my future video projects and streams. If I have a following at this point in time, I'd do my best to involve them in whatever content I produce.
>3- What is a specific aspect of vtubing you are working on right now?
I just got my model rigged, so I'm probably gunna figure it out first. I'm planning to make shitposts and short videos.
>4- What are metrics are you using to measure your progress?
Primarily, it's the quality of my content. Other than that, it'll be subs/followers and comments.
>5- Are those metrics useful and helping you out?
Yes, my mindset on content creation has always been to make something you're proud of and share it.
>6- What are some personal milestones? (non-numbers based)
Ideally, I would love to eventually receive income from creating content. Aside from that, I'd like to work on a weekly show where I can invite new vtubers (to help people find their content) and established vtubers whom I respect.
>7- With what you've learned so far, what's some advice you would have told yourself?
"Alright, dumbass, you've always looked up to content creators and their ability to make people's day better. Now that vtubing is a thing, this is the perfect medium for you to create content you've always wanted make. Stop being retarded and insecure. Just do it, anon. We both know this is something you want to do no matter what anyways."
(was drunk and ended up recording saying something like this to myself)

>> No.6416211
File: 500 KB, 1920x1080, Fioqwpnfewnojlowjh.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] [report]

Wassup fags. I'm gonna play some Jackbox Party Packs on stream. You should play along! All you need is your phone!


>> No.6416372

No one passed my simple test and I'm incredibly disappointed

>> No.6416625

I just finished my intro video. Using the bandwagon template that a lot of chubbas are doing. It’s my first real piece of content and I got a few likes and one interaction on Twitter.

Maybe I can do this after all...

>> No.6416818
File: 12 KB, 320x320, 1599244957576.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] [report]

Great to hear! Keep working and you'll look back on this fondly!! But are you also willing to feed a farm of chickens once a day for a 30 day period?

>> No.6416958
File: 1 KB, 84x91, views.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] [report]

Anyone else in refresh hell now the audition period is over? I know it's pointless to be so obsessive for "The View" from nijisanji and just wait to see if I get an email but I can't help myself

>> No.6416979
File: 2.87 MB, 2345x2913, 20210704_151421.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] [report]

Can I pick one to eat afterwards?

Or would eating cock lead to too many bad rumors?

>> No.6416991
File: 15 KB, 480x270, 1588230785708.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] [report]

>But are you also willing to feed a farm of chickens once a day for a 30 day period?
what does this mean?

>> No.6417000

go get yourself a beer and play some vidya, work on your streaming skills.
shits out of your hands now, not worth obsessing about.

>> No.6417110
File: 7 KB, 277x182, 1621914046206.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] [report]

I will love you forever if you pass my test, now drop your twitch links if you're willing to feed the chickens once a day for a month

>> No.6417140

Stop checking your video views. Now. Close the tab, forget about it. Go do something else. And don't open it up again for the rest of the month. Just move on.

You probably won't even be looked at considering the amount of auditions. Accept that. Don't get your hopes up. That way, if you do get an email sometime in a month or two, it'll be way more pleasant of a surprise. If you don't, then it doesn't matter, no worries.

You people need to stop obsessing over an audition that 99.99% of you will never hear back from.

>> No.6417317

What breed of chicken? How many? Just hens, or are you breeding them as fryers?

>> No.6417394

Do the chickens have large talons?

>> No.6417424
File: 760 KB, 750x500, 1603348486893.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] [report]

Drop your twitch links and not only will you find out but I will love you forever

>> No.6417540

Char design is hard
Kill me

>> No.6417621

I had a weird lucid dream last night that one of my audition videos got 7000 views and the other still had 3. Audition brain...

>> No.6417894

What's the test?

>> No.6417967
File: 1.59 MB, 1175x974, 1603767087026.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] [report]

Are you willing to feed the chickens? Drop your twitch link and await further instructions

>> No.6418009

I'm tempted to give the schizo what they want but I'm worried it's just going to be thrown into a ddos list or something.

>> No.6418027

>having your vtuber account associated with 4chan

>> No.6418110
File: 44 KB, 227x222, 1607975041632.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] [report]

I'm not a schizo all I want is for you to feed the chickens onegai

>> No.6418121

Can't abide. Strangers who say they'll love me forever don't inspire confidence. Gimme a Twitter link with a tweet that says "It's me, you idiots," and maybe we'll talk.

>> No.6418162


>> No.6418166

This and I'll share my twitch

>> No.6418197
File: 161 KB, 962x688, 1615712692062.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] [report]

What are they so scared of... I don't understand...

>> No.6418217
File: 247 KB, 1200x1200, 1414552645032 (1).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] [report]

I'm sorry I was late!

>> No.6418221
File: 105 KB, 1200x703, E5_RcfoVcAA3bkP.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] [report]

What's their endgame?

>> No.6418247

So my twitter required my phone number, now it always recommends my sister despite me being in a different state and having no other connecting info outside my phone number.

how do i make twitter stop... i don't want to get recommended to her.

>> No.6418277

the accounts have been linked, you used the phone number on a different account didn't you?

>> No.6418285
File: 231 KB, 463x453, 1596939931484.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] [report]


>> No.6418312

just keep following a bunch of vtuber related accounts so that the alg eventually stops

>> No.6418315

People like Krimbo and Koopa seem to be doing just fine. Krimbos' been raided by Iron Mouse twice and on Takahata's show twice as well.

People need to realize that the 4chan boogeyman thing only matters to 2view tumblrtubers, most viewers don't seem to care what their vtuber does.

>> No.6418316

not that i know of, and if i did it was like i was following her on any of my other accounts either.

>> No.6418329

Many people have found /asp/ without ever visiting /wvt/... they don't know about the chickens....

>> No.6418384
File: 31 KB, 750x412, E4_s0n1VUAEZx8y.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] [report]

Fine here's your damn link

>> No.6418444

if you use twitter on the same device, use the same email to sign up for it, use the same phone number or authentication for it
twitter will link the two accounts permanently together, or link them to your other social media
once this happens you cannot undo it and it will recommend accounts back and forth across the two
facebook, instagram, twitter, tiktok all do this and I have no idea how to prevent it

>> No.6418497

god i hate the modern world

>> No.6418522


>> No.6418543

Brave or foolish. Good luck.

>> No.6418608

Oh, it's you! Hope the debut goes well next week!

>> No.6418621
File: 45 KB, 680x680, 1615092674594.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] [report]

Now go to the channel I gifted you a sub to and type "snack" and one of their emotes in the chat

>> No.6418798
File: 193 KB, 552x536, 1603591020730.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] [report]

Enjoy your 5 gift subs!
I will now check out your debut!

>> No.6418874

I left for a little bit and I'm so confused.

>> No.6418900

The chickens have been fed

>> No.6418930

A-are we the chickens?

>> No.6419038

I don't even care. I just have no confidence in myself and don't want to get picked on by whoever-the-hell.

>> No.6419117


>> No.6419258

>thinking this matters at all

>> No.6419393
File: 1.14 MB, 1049x1420, 1602004779523.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] [report]

Today's test is now over, thank you to everyone who was brave enough to pass it
You have the spirit to make it

>> No.6420405

What's the best way to network outside of Vtuber circles? Have any of you had much experience with that?

>> No.6420407

Thanks for the reading, Fashion School. Followed.

>> No.6420560

It really depends on your content. Like if you're really into Warframe for example, networking with Warframe streamers and content creators and forums is the best thing you can do.

>> No.6420566

Should I be doing this every day for the rest of the month?

>> No.6420589

General networking in any community.
Tamaki got popular because of her manga history and connections with big illustrators making the transition into vtubing easy even as an indie.

>> No.6420597

literally go back in time to 20 minutes ago when tiger was in the thread asking to see people's twitch channels

>> No.6420619

Everyday and I will love you forever

>> No.6420683

Intro-vid anon here,
I’m too scared. I’m just a poor babi and I don’t know if I want the attention of 30+ cocks right out the gate.

Please understand.

>> No.6420798

don't be a baby, the only reason I didn't drop anything is because I don't have anything to show
if you have something to show just drop it and get it reviewed and get feedback

>> No.6420815

Cool, I've dropped playing shitty gacha games so this seems like a funner "login bonus" to do

>> No.6421847

I might do it anonymously in the next thread. If I can work up the balls.

>> No.6422015

do it now if you're really worried, we're on page 8 anyway

>> No.6422030

anon the point of this was a pretty big viewer streamer popped in asking to see what content newbies have, they won't be here next thread, they're here now

>> No.6422128

I think they're already gone by now.

>> No.6422335

Do you guys think it would be possible to commission Veibae's artist for a model? Cost doesn't matter to me, but I don't think they even look at their emails.

>> No.6422338

she'll probably be back, she's stopped by before in the past

>> No.6422373

which one?
theartgun definitely takes commissions if you're talking about the 3d artist but it's going to run you about 4,000 dollars for the commission

>> No.6422417

>Shimada drops in
>I still don't have my PC or rig ready
One day I'll be noticed.

>> No.6422477

If you can't contact them via email then you probably can't commission them

>> No.6422578

The 2D artist, https://twitter.com/neonbeat619?lang=en.
I tried sending an email more than a month ago and no response. Not even a "I'm closed for commission inquiries." I wonder if I should send a follow up or just give up.

>> No.6422635

they probably get hundreds of emails a week

>> No.6422717
File: 126 KB, 828x819, 1561732002785.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] [report]

>stream game
>get some viewers
>a viewer seems nice
>starts talking about how they want to kill themselves
I just want to play videogames, man.

>> No.6422824

anon my dog just died let's goooooooooooooooo

>> No.6422898

Ask them how they would do it, what the circumstances would be, their reasons for doing it, and all that jazz. Make it into content. You'll never achieve zetsudan if you can't make something as commonplace as "I wanna fucking die" a topic of conversation.

>> No.6423022

FYI this is a troll, don’t do this.

>> No.6423152

Dammit, I was asleep.

>> No.6423238

when i do my audio testing, what's the best way to test it out? do i set my windows volume to 50% and listen back to the VOD to see what the average viewer would hear?

>> No.6423897

I've been getting a lot of "yikes" questions and readings for my tarot stream tonight.

>> No.6423998

You can't just drop that post and not elaborate. Details, details.

>> No.6424482

Do you think there'd be a market for streaming myself baiting guys into thinking I'm interested in them then turning them down in hilarious ways?

>> No.6424532

streaming? no. what you're describing is just a youtube prank video channel. you need to edit those to short over editted clips because people's attention spans aren't that long.

Name (leave empty)
Comment (leave empty)
Password [?]Password used for file deletion.