/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

Any rrats on who she is? Her voice sounds great.

[Anonymous No.]

Madame President...

[Anonymous No.]

>>6528918
Miki is the common consensus so far

[Anonymous No.]

>>6528918
It's me, im back

[Anonymous No.]

Read her name as Rosemi Lovecock at first

[Anonymous No.]

>>6528918
surprised anybody else would want to join after how badly NijiEN 1 has performed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6529143
you might be the first to say that but you will most definitely not be the last
COCK LOVE!

[Anonymous No.]

>>6528918
say hello to EN Rushia

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>>6529179
Multiply your viewership by 5+times and have way more connections and opportunities while most of the busywork of being a vtuber is done for you. What's the issue?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6529188
He isn't. I'm not going to be the first to mention Leglock either.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6529179
meds

[Anonymous No.]

>>6529179
they are capable of doing fine, anon. it's not all view counts, Rushia never had the most viewers for example.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6528918
MakeNijisanjiGreatAgain person.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6529143
>>6529229
>mfw I just missread it as loveclock...
Am I a virgin?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6529188
Not the first either, lol
>>6529179
Even ignoring that this group came from the same auditions as the first and the more restrictive management in Hololive:
>Apply to Nijisanji EN, where they debut multiple waves in a year and you'll still almost certainly get 10x-100x what you had before
>Pin all your hopes on Hololive EN, who put out a single 5 person generation a year, where IF you get in you can HOPE the hype is still there and you get a million easy subs

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>>6529281
I'm guessing that's from debut and lulu still being there. She gets' about under $1,000 on regular streams. She did get $12,000 for that 9hr karaoke, $6,000 for the birthday, and just under $3,000 for that free talk quitting her job. Those are special events but pretty good for about just a little under 2 months in.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6529737
Yeah, good for her. But IRyS had $20k just in 3 days of streaming.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6528981
Man, I really hoped for her becoming big, sucks she'll be stuck in niji. But realistically speaking, her Eigo was not good enough for HoloEN, so makes sense she's stuck with ESL holo-rejects.

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>>6533339
Lovely attitude you're going in with, I suspect Mikifags will be the new Pomuniggers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6529346
No the other anons are just gae

[Anonymous No.]

>>6529877
She just cant stop winning isnt she

[Anonymous No.]

>>6533362
Except I'm not going in. If she's indeed Miki, then oh well, I'll find someone else to follow.

[Anonymous No.]

isn't miki japanese?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6528918
If the rrats are true, she's a rat.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6533649
French Japanese

[Anonymous No.]

>>6528918
As much as I hate to admit it, it’s miki. They got the haffu

[Anonymous No.]

>>6533339
HoloEN is soul crushing. I think she’ll be happier in NijiEN. Much more freedom and still decent money to be made.

[Anonymous No.]

>lovecock
Literally could not make this shit up

[Anonymous No.]

>>6528918
She is Ayane Hylo

[Anonymous No.]

>>6533653
elaborate

[Anonymous No.]

>>6528918
>her name is Lovecock

[Anonymous No.]

>>6533937
Miki/Ria.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6528918
>Miki
I though she wanted to be an idol

[Anonymous No.]

>>6533653
>>6483509
She'll jump ship to Hololive in within a year

[Anonymous No.]

>>6534147
There are Idols in Nijisanji, although I don't know if she'll go that way.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6534147
What's more likely is that she sent in an application everywhere, then settled with the biggest name that would take her. That's probably why she joined Tsunderia only to leave as soon as she did.

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>>6533937
>>6534199

[Anonymous No.]

I don’t know why she’s so popular on this board she was pretty mediocre. The other nijiens are all way stronger talents. Even Finana sings better.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6534199
Whelp Nijibros, I’m so glad you have her after all and hope for the best.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6533765
Quelle surprise de voir une française joindre Nijisanji !

[Anonymous No.]

>>6534199
99% chance she just applied to both and happened to make it in to both. It's possible she applied to HoloEN and got in to that too, but I'm doubtful.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6534199
Who other than Luna has ever went from niji to holo?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6534514
yeah yeah hon hon bonjour
but keep in mind shes mainly Japanese English

[Anonymous No.]

>>6534701
Yeah, I watched her when she was Miki

[Anonymous No.]

>>6534614
Just her, and it was a pretty big deal. Luna started out with a lot of antis.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6534614
Soon Lulu

[Anonymous No.]

>>6534810
lol.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6534810
>>6534886
What sort of shitstorm would we deal with if she did show up in Gen 6?
EOPs would not know or care, but I imagine Niji faggots would throw a fit for a bit

[Anonymous No.]

>>6534986
I would be genuinely upset. If she had just said she was leaving for a better oppurtunity I'd be sad, but understanding. But giving stalkers as the reason and then going to a company with an even worse reputation for that kind of thing but bigger numbers would leave a really bad taste in my mouth.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6528918
Where's my money you fucking rrat.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6534542
Given the timeline she would have had to gotten into Tsunderia first and then applied to Niji afterwards so the rrats hold true. She's a social climber.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6535206
Your own fault for not getting a check from Anycolor.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6534199
To be clear there's not really any evidence that she left Tsunderia for malicious reasons. They've talked about how they have a policy against doing loli characters even though Ria was a loli. It's possible they bullied her out of the company due to anti-loli bias and she felt uncomfortable as a Japanese person who grew up in pro-loli Japanese culture surrounded by ironic weeb westerners that bullied her for her chosen design or daring to talk about loli in the group discord. This shit happens all the time in all EN weeb circles where people get ostracized for liking loli or traps or BL and I wouldn't blame her for leaving Tsunderia. It would also explain why they refuse to acknowledge or talk about her if they were actively bullying her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6528918
The french halfu shitposter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6534986
>EOPs would not know or care

Oh you...

[Anonymous No.]

>>6535362
That’s a way bigger stretch than the possibility that a girl who has a social circle of questionable personalities and a history of posting selfies on Twitter happened to be a bitch. Doesn’t help that it’s really out of character for everyone else so we have to assume maliciousness on the entire company instead of one girl.

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>>6535450
Go back to your hugbox general

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>>6535450
I mean, stranger things have happened and I wouldn't call them actively malicious if they felt Ria was dragging their brand down by being a coomerbait loli.

But then again they get along with Kana just fine and her entire personality is being a coomerbait loli. She's even getting a new model by Henreader to be even more of a coomerbait loli.

I'm just saying we don't actually have any facts here and it's just rrats regardless. Assuming one side is right just because it's the simplest or most convenient answer is a fallacy in itself.

Tsunderia girls seem really nice but they also made no effort to get along with Kana which pushed her to leave due to feeling like an outcast. It's entirely possible Ria just didn't fit in and Kana leaving gave her the courage to leave too, but it made her look bad for "jumping ship" when Tsunderia was at their lowest point.

I know this is /vt/ and rratposters dominate this board but it's best to dispel the rrats or at least offer alternative perspectives so she doesn't get demonized before she even debuts. For one thing Pomu and Elira's past lives were friends and got along well with her, if she was a shit person or flaky they would've told management not to hire her.

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>>6535491
Seriously? You invent an entire scenario out of nothing to rationalize how a shady looking girl could be in the right and now you’re deflecting to someone else being the hugbox.
Gonna be frank here even if the Tsunderia situation didn’t happen Miki looks like a bitch. As a vtuber she was total gachikoi bait. Her entire social circle was people who could give her clout including the goddamn tranny shark. She posted attention seeking shit on Twitter all the time. She’s the stereotype of one of those otaku princesses. I watched her as an indie before I even knew she was the rat and she’s always been fucking sketchy.

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>>6535672
Predictions are that her character will just be EN Rushia so milking gachikois and acting like a yandere otaku princess sounds like it'll be perfect for her.

I don't really care if it's a work or a shoot, all I care about is good content. It's not like I'll ever spend money on her, I'm already dedicated to Pomu.

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>>6535672
In any case if Rosemi really is Miki, she's not going to jump to Hololive.
If the rrat is false, then there's no reason for her to jump over.
If the rrat is true, do you think Cover would want someone like that to join them?

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>>6536212
>If the rrat is true, do you think Cover would want someone like that to join them?
Luna...

[Anonymous No.]

>>6533875
What is this freedom that I keep hearing about, that NijiEN has, but not HoloEN? One stream of Genchink impact an zero streams of Mahjong Tamashi?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6535148
Why? Stop being a tribal fag anon. I'd be happy if she'd ever return as a vtuber.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6536370
Even Holofags acknowledge that Hololive management is restrictive and EN is even more so.
>>6536376
It's not like I'd be upset that she showed up in Hololive specifically. It's just saying it was stalkers and then reincarnating seems tasteless.
If it was JUST graduating to go to Hololive I wouldn't be mad, although I probably wouldn't watch her new persona. It's the combination that's upsetting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6535362
>>6535491
>>6535672
>>6536212
It's absolutely insane how fucking wrong you dipshits are but also not, it hurts.

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>>6534199
That's a huge fucking rrat. We all know how much better MyHoloTV is compared to Tsuderia
>b-but getting forced to play a character is literally torture
Than you can stay a stupid unknown vtuber. Miori with MyHoloTV gets 10k subs. With Tsunderia, she barely gets 5k.

[Anonymous No.]

im pretty sure Ria left because she was handling 2 personas at once

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>>6536456
I'm not denying restrictions, although they are definitely lifting them bit by bit, and we can argue about their nature and what prompted them to be installed, but that's not what I'm asking. I'm asking what "more freedom in NIjiEN" actually means, because right now it's just a nijinigger's buzzword.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6528918
any rrats about the pinguin?

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>>6529143
Yeah I read it as that too. It's either an unfortunate or entirely intentional decision on her part.

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>>6529179
All these guys are tiny indies or in d-tier vtuber groups. If they get into Nijisanji and only stream to 500 people it's still a huge step up for them, and if they have confidence in themselves and believe that all they need is exposure there's no reason to believe they can't do Holo ID numbers.

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>>6536317
Luna's case is different. She has a history of changing identity and it's more like she can't fit in until Hololive.
In Miki's case, assuming it's true, it makes her a backstabbing opportunist.

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>>6534199
I'd add on I don't think the lolihate is a hard line or anything, just something they'd prefer without.
The managers and owners of tsunderia are all pretty clean cut. They're just uncomfortable with anything extremely fetishized or sexual and have been on record saying purin is already going further than they like with her extremely light bdsm play.
It's not something they go hard against, just not something they want to explicitly support without good reason.

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>>6536583
Didn't Coco want a Projekt Melody collab since forever? Well, Pomu's having one in a week, barely 2 months after debuting.
Say what you want about vshojo or Melody, but the Niji was quickly permitted to do what the Holo wasn't able to do for the entirety of her career.

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>>6536212
It's absolutely false. Anycolor has dealt with assholes and schizos like Raito and Meiro before. Do you really think they didn't do the research on Miki before hiring her, including likely contacting Tsunderia themselves to get an idea of how the situation went down? Hell, that could be a reason why Finana made it to the first wave instead of Rosemi, they could have put her on hold for the extra two months until they decided that she was safe enough to get the position.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6537828
You're forgetting this is their foreign branch. They probably don't give half a fuck and just got told to hire people with experience.

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>>6537828
If they did their research, neither Pakorairo nor Meiro would get in. Also, Meiro was still able to make a huge shitstorm, and if Pakoraito didn't run his mouth on his roommate, he would definitely score with at least a couple of lousy girls, or maybe he would still be a niji.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6536600
Beside having airlines boyfriend, nothing significant since she’ll be part of niji

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>>6535362
>Tsunderia is anti-loli
What the hell is this rat?
This is Kana, used to be the company's first vtuber and basically the face of their company, all assets funded by Tsunderia. Their "Sora". Just... look at her.
Then there's Purin, whos is pretty openly into loli and mesugaki. Meru is getting a loli model update. Urara, who's part of management, was originally going to be an amputee loli (yes, really) and played little witch romanesque on stream.
This misundertanding probably stems from the fact that tsunderia did not want more than one loli in their generation, which is reasonable. Have variety, appeal to different audiences and all that.
Bury this rat deep underground.

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>>6535636
That's why you think Kana left, because she was ignored? You really believe that no one tried to reach out to the girl with more subs and viewers than everyone else in the company combined? No fucking chance.
Kana left because she wanted to be completely on her own, and Tsunderia let her go because she's a walking yab factory for a startup agency. Her Discord server is just an extension of her /vt/ thread now. She's had a total of one collab since going indie (with Purin, her pre-VTuber friend), and her company collabs were, without exception, painfully forced and uncomfortable to watch. It's become very obvious that she doesn't play nice with others (with the singular exception of Purin, rarely). Even Nacho doesn't want anything to do with her professionally, and that's extremely telling.
You can't really compare Kana and Ria's time with the company. From the sound of things during her member's stream, Ria expected management to take a more structured and hands-on approach which Tsunderia has said they don't do much of. I would guess she didn't ask the right questions during the interview if that's the case, which she more or less admitted and took the blame for. Going by the timeline, it seems like she got accepted to Niji after already getting into Tsunderia, and Tsunderia couldn't really compete with their smaller resources. It seems like her leaving is a combination of social climbing and differing expectations to what streaming in Tsunderia is like. Also, along with this >>6538522 , Kallin recently said that everyone (or at least the chuubas) is pro-loli, so I doubt that plays into any Ria-related feelings they might have

[Anonymous No.]

>>6538737
I'm happy for you or sorry that happened

[Anonymous No.]

>>6538737
So Ria was retarded and expected the company to literally do her streams for her after they already paid for her model and songs?
It's not like niji or holo handles this differently either. It's always on the talent to make their own content.

It's simple really. Ria milked tsunderia for what she could, and when someone made her a better offer she dropped them without hesitation, completely breaking her contract without providing anything in return.
Is it something people do? Sure. The tech industry is rife with such occurrences. But at the same time it's still a bitch move, especially when you're joining a small company who foots the entire bill for you just so you can ditch then the second you can.

And it's not like niji came calling for her. Presumably she had plenty of time between accepting tsunderias offer, getting all her shit made, debuting, and so on long before niji auditions even opened. She was actively looking for better deals concurrently with milking tsunderia.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6528918
What is wrong with her hand and why does she look crippled

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>>6539668
Assuming Rosemi really is her, how long before her ladder climbing catches up to her and her own genmates get tired of her?
She was a collab dead fish in her last company, but how were her relationships as an indie? Did she have regular collabs with anyone? Did she get a lot of comments and praise from collab partners or mostly silence?
How long before Lazulight and Obsidian see through her nice girl veneer? How long before she starts demanding stuff other girls don't get?

[Anonymous No.]

>Assuming Rosemi really is her, how long before her ladder climbing catches up to her and her own genmates get tired of her?
>She was a collab dead fish in her last company, but how were her relationships as an indie? Did she have regular collabs with anyone? Did she get a lot of comments and praise from collab partners or mostly silence?
>How long before Lazulight and Obsidian see through her nice girl veneer? How long before she starts demanding stuff other girls don't get?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6539999
She collabed with Artemis a lot :^)

[Anonymous No.]

>>6540061

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>>6539668
>>6539999
You are so fucking obsessed it's actually insane.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6540386
Antis are not bred in a vacuum.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6540386
If you think this is obsessed wait until you see my folder on the drama from /asp/ and /wvt/ posters on the off chance any of them gets accepted.

[Anonymous No.]

I just want to say I absolutely adored Ria's design and knowing it's gone for good is what hurts the most.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6540737
I'm glad she's gone desu, it would have attracted pedos to the group and that's always a negative.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6540786
Go back to grandstanding on twitter while doing nothing about actual abuse.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6540786
as a tsunderia insider i can assure you there are a few pedos in the staff anyway

[Anonymous No.]

>>6540870
Unfortunately not for much longer

[Anonymous No.]

>>6540899
Purin please be okay...

[Anonymous No.]

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Anonymous Wed Jul 14 14:47:16 2021 No.6540550 [View]

>Sasaki bullied Luna out of Nijisanji!
>Roa took advantage of her position and forced poor defenseless Meiro to graduate!
>Nijisanji is quantity over quality, they'll hire anyone!
>Nijifags unsubscribed to Kuzuha and Mikoto en masse after their "yab" because they're unicorns in denial!
>NijiEN fans are the same shitters that looked down on Holofags back on /jp/!
>There's no variety in Nijisanji's character settings, they're all JKs and DKs!
>Nijisanji is full of Mean Girls-style cliques that attack the little guys!
>None of the Niji girls are afforded any opportunities while the males are prioritized!
>Anycolor never provides assets for free, Nijisanji members have to pay for their costumes and 3Ds out of their own pockets!
>Niji males all fujo pander, that's why their numbers are so high!
>Nijisanji members have to reach a certain amount of subscribers before they're allowed to collaborate with top livers!
>Muh bullying culture!

[Anonymous No.]

>Sasaki bullied Luna out of Nijisanji!
>Roa took advantage of her position and forced poor defenseless Meiro to graduate!
>Nijisanji is quantity over quality, they'll hire anyone!
>Nijifags unsubscribed to Kuzuha and Mikoto en masse after their "yab" because they're unicorns in denial!
>NijiEN fans are the same shitters that looked down on Holofags back on /jp/!
>There's no variety in Nijisanji's character settings, they're all JKs and DKs!
>Nijisanji is full of Mean Girls-style cliques that attack the little guys!
>None of the Niji girls are afforded any opportunities while the males are prioritized!
>Anycolor never provides assets for free, Nijisanji members have to pay for their costumes and 3Ds out of their own pockets!
>Niji males all fujo pander, that's why their numbers are so high!
>Nijisanji members have to reach a certain amount of subscribers before they're allowed to collaborate with top livers!
>Muh bullying culture!

[Anonymous No.]

RATS PLEASE
GIVE RATS

[Anonymous No.]

>>6540546
and this is why I don't watch indies

[Anonymous No.]

>>6529179
you say this like she wasn't in a contract before NijiEN wave 1 tanked

[Anonymous No.]

Oh god, I have a hunch that this kid is Miki.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6540737
Honestly the biggest loss here, a complete waste of a good design

[Anonymous No.]

>Not even debuted yet and already getting lazy
https://twitter.com/Rosemi_Lovelock/status/1415277346567884800
Why does this feel so familiar...

[Anonymous No.]

>>6529179
NijiEN has been doing great in the face of the hololive juggernaut, and for the individuals it's already a 10x-20x upgrade in viewership.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6528918
She literally put on rrat voice

[Anonymous No.]

>>6543801
On the bright side, we won't have to worry about her bringing down the generation if she never even shows up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6536370
hololive cares a lot more about maintaining a certain perception and they're a lot more restrictive with their talents as a result, nijisanji allows their talents to get away with a good amount more. There is literal evidence for this in nene mentioning not being allowed to play NKOdice while multiple nijisanji streamers were allowed to, with pomu saying all she had to deal with was a warning about the game possibly looking bad for her before being allowed to play it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6536600
>dae gura clone
is the only one I am aware of, thus far

[Anonymous No.]

>>6544305
OH NO NOT THAT GAME

[Anonymous No.]

God I hope it's not Miki
She belongs in hololive with all the cool seiso girls.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6544834
She starts mingling with Pikamee all of a sudden so... Miki SUS

[Anonymous No.]

>>6539668
Blame tsunderia for not having a better contact to protect their company. They should learn from this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6544305
I don't get the popularity of the game.
Is it seriously just "haha i got the penis word XD"?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6536370
That's just nijicope general

[Anonymous No.]

>>6546273
>They should learn from this.
They've mentioned that they intend to improve their vetting process for new talent in the future, almost definitely because of Ria/Miki explicitly not being completely honest with them when she applied.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6546675
Their AMA was actually funny with how much they danced around issues that were specifically because of Ria.

[Anonymous No.]

>That's just nijicope general

[Anonymous No.]

tsunderiafags about to get uppity

[Anonymous No.]

>>6546696
got a link with timestamps to the ria questions?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6546696
Such as..

[Anonymous No.]

>>6546728
Anything involving contracts, vetting, mistakes they've made.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6544834
Fuck no, Miki's an actual terrible human being, thank god she's not in Hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6544834
Fuck that whore. I'd rather watch Hajime fist herself than that abomination.

[Anonymous No.]

>Fuck that whore. I'd rather watch Hajime fist herself than that abomination.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6546723
The video is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZlNvm7I3m0 but don't have timestamps sorry. It's all really interesting to listen to though and you can do 1.5x speed

[Anonymous No.]

>>6528918
MY PRESIDENT YEEEEEES

[Anonymous No.]

Really hoping the NPCchamas don't keep bumping this thread. Just let the rat die.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6536583
Hololive:
>absurd amount of red tape involved in initiating collabs (especially when Holostars or vtubers from other companies are involved)
>have to get permissions for every individual game, plus VA and music
>can't produce any content or merch that is "out of character" or not idol-like to some degree
Nijisanji:
>No collab ban, Livers can collab whenever they want, collabs with other vtubers and companies usually set up quickly
>basically allowed to stream whatever game they want, if there's a risk of copyright they just have to turn off monetization
>near-total freedom in the content able to be made. Some Livers make scripted lore videos, some just do idol stuff, some tell stories about going to strip clubs or using an escort.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6535362
>there's not really any evidence that she left Tsunderia for malicious reasons
That's why Kana left, a fucking tranny was messing the girls until he got fired
>he quit
I don't care, that faggot deserved to get fired

[Anonymous No.]

>>6550950
Is there any proof of this beyond what Kana said? After the Nacho drama, everything she says should be viewed with extreme skepticism, especially since it's clear by her actions that she left because she wants to do her own thing and not be forced to associate with anyone else like you have to in an agency

[Anonymous No.]

>>6528918
She's a pumper and a dumper

[Anonymous No.]

>>6534147
She could never be an idol with how shit of a person she actually is kekw

[Anonymous No.]

>>6550361
>nijisanji
And yet they still manage to be boring af
Wow talking about talent

[Anonymous No.]

>>6551585
you don't watch any of them

[Anonymous No.]

>>6550361
On paper all the nijisanji freedoms sound enticing but on practice hololive is much better.
The extra rules help give it structure and order.
More is achieved by choosing one direction and sticking to it than by trying to go into different random places at once.

[Anonymous No.]

On paper all the nijisanji freedoms sound enticing but on practice hololive is much better.
The extra rules help give it structure and order.
More is achieved by choosing one direction and sticking to it than by trying to go into different random places at once.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6528918
I like her yandere vibe + design is top tier.

[Anonymous No.]

I really liked Ria and I'm sad she lost interest in Tsunderia after Kana left.
I wish anons would stop being so vicious. This all feels like salt in the wound.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6551993
Do you even watch Nijisanji?

[Anonymous No.]

>Any rrats on who she is? Her voice sounds great.
when in doubt bet she is voiced by PPTenshi

[Anonymous No.]

>>6528918
Lovecock
I'll be jumping a bridge now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6551993
So much order that coco left

[Anonymous No.]

>>6552356
>all anons
I think you meant one or two antis, i wonder how are they gonna cope now that she is going to do great

[Anonymous No.]

>>6551585
you don't watch any of them and more importantly you are 100% EOP

[Anonymous No.]

>>6552356
I liked her too, but with all that's happened, I can't separate the streams from the streamer. I hope she's happy, but I won't be tuning in

[Anonymous No.]

>>6552356
She didn't seem to care even before Kana left.
Probably cared much less since she couldn't try to leech off of Kana's fanbase anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6552356
I only knew her as Miki and it wasn't until she graduated that I decided to look deeper.
I'll support her, doesn't matter what she did or what anyone has to say, Miki was a good girl and she must have had her reasons.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6538522
>Urara, who's part of management, was originally going to be an amputee loli
HOT, why she doesn't?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6546578
Yeah, I don't get why it was such a big thing either. But at the same time, the fact that Nene was told she couldn't play because it was "inappropriate for an idol" made me, as a fan of her, realize that maybe Hololive just isn't for me.
>>6551828
Give one (1) example of the restrictions in Hololive leading to anything good. And don't bring up shit from before 2021, because they didn't start tightening them until late 2020.

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>>6554392
Sounds like a braindead reason. "Oh no they did not show the penis word, I'm unsubbing, although, i'm not really a fan to begin with".

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>>6553022
She used to stream as an indie before she joined Tsunderia, and Char convinced her to keep her old design with an updated rig/outfit.

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>>6554549
I'm still subbed to Nene, and I don't know where the fuck you got "I'm not really a fan to begin with" from.
I've followed Hololive for about a year and a half now. The reason I got in in the first place was that they showed me that "idols" don't have to mean the safe, manufactured image I associated with it before. The fact that Hololive now IS going in that direction (which obviously the nkodice shit isn't the only reason to believe that. Did you miss the fact that Coco graduated?) means it's becoming something I'm less interested in now.

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>>6554711
Bless Char, Urara's design makes my penis the big penis

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https://twitter.com/Rosemi_Lovelock/status/1415348898789576713
The curse lives on...

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>>6541664
Kuzuha/Mikoto yab?

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What's the full story behind Miki's departure from Tsunderia?

Before Miki's graduation, I only knew of Miki as an indie Vtuber. Hearing that she was in Tsunderia for a few months on the side sounds odd & suspicious, but the way you guys describe it it sounds a lot worse than merely being an opportunist.

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>>6556272
Nah, it's just being an opportunist. She got into Tsunderia, applied to Niji anyway, got in there and then left Tsunderia after a few months. Shitty of her to do, but not monstrously so.

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>>6556272
I think she was originally going to stick with it, but as soon as NijiEN auditions opened she changed her mind.

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>>6556337
It really does seem that simple. The rrat about management was probably just an excuse because she couldn't come out and say on stream, "Sorry bitches, but I got called up by the big boys. Nothing personnel, kids!"

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This has nothing to do with the thread, but man, fuck PEACH-PIT.

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>>6556272
She's suspicious
It's fine to have something on the side it's that she didn't give a shit about it that is more alarming. She took the opportunity away from others who may have auditioned and then used that and her indie stuff to get herself into Niji. It's not a crime but she's probably someone you don't want friends with with since everything she does is a social climbing game for her.

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>>6556337
>>6556627
There's definitely at least slightly more to it, I'm pretty sure Urara straight up said that Ria misrepresented some things during her audition and that the company is going to be more careful about who they hire in the future because of that.

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>>6528918
Look! It's a snake and a rat

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>>6557193
I agree
There has to be more to the story that makes them all avoid her like the plague.

Looks like she even went out of her way to shut down her channel and all the donations from the one week she bothered to stream got refunded too. No way would Tsunderia have done that on their own knowing they're small and don't have that kind of money to throw away.

Like what the fuck is wrong with her? I believe she has to be an even bigger schizo than the rrat posters here.

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>>6557484
Do you think having a rat as her model was a coincidence?

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>>6559672
https://virtualyoutuber.fandom.com/wiki/Kirihime_Ria
>A fearsome Rat King, Ria is skilled in assassination and pilfering. She knows this land well. Be careful if you decide to recruit her into your party though, you may find that some of your items have gone missing…

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>>6559776
its oddly ironic.
if i find out that this was all just some long con played out over multiple years where they chased her out under false pretensis so she'd end up in nijiEN and then funnel their viewers down into tsunderia before eventually bailing with Niji's trade secrets exposing them to the world and destroying the company, leaving only tsunderia standing as she reincarnates back in as the beloved rat king, i'd be okay with her.

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>>6559930
Holy shit, this is a rrat of the highest quality.

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>>6560001
Truly a fearsome Rrat King

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>>6528918
The Passion of Rosemi Christ

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I miss the rrat so much. She was ogey.

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whether you like Nijisanji or not, it offers girls the most creative freedom. If Cover did, we'd still have Coco.

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>>6554392
Not interacting with guys or doing collabs with shitty indies for starters.

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>>6528918
More like Rosemi Lovecock
Gottem

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>>6561588
>leading to anything good
Also Matsuri interacts with guys.

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>>6561517
Well she met up with Mint again, so there's that

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>>6561517
not gonna lie I got emotional during that stream

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shes gonna to quit after 6 months again

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>>6561988
maybe then she'll finally get to hololive
everything else was just a stepping stone

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>>6562117
Is that girl's dream to become idol or something? if yes then there's a big chance she will jump ship to holo if the chance comes

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>>6528981
Her old design was more fappable

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>>6563027
Pretty sure if she actually jumps ship, that will disqualify her for Holo.

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>>6557149
I'm going to start an anti channel and harass her off the internet ty for the inspiration

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>>6563588
Why? What about Luna?

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>>6552408
>>6552515
Never acknowledge or reply to spam that uses off board memes, especially pepe and wojack.

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>>6563225
yup

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>>6567707
keeping the tradition of flat chests
good enough for me hehe

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>>6564962
Luna stayed for a while in Nijisanji to pay back the investment. Compare to rrat who, if >>6557193 is to be believed, conned them. Now who knows, maybe Niji is her end goal.

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>>6550361
Why haven't Nijisanji collabed with Hitler then?

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>>6567707
At least she kept getting tights after Miki's OG design, though I'm not a fan of the green colored ones she currently has.

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>>6557193
PROOF NIGGER
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WHERE IS IT

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>>6568892
I wouldn't be surprised if one had joked about that. They can make jokes about Abe, Trump and Covid, why not history jokes?

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>>6554733
Hololive was always about idols and you got suckered in by a carefully manufactured public face of idols deliberately pretending to be transgressive while never crossing the line. Sorry bud.

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>>6529179
the eternal holofag

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>>6533875
Freedom to be degenerate and hang with guys, neither things she did even as indie.

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>>6564962
Luna left on good terms and it still won her antis, and this was NijiJP to HoloJP, arguably a step down if the girl doesn't become a hit.

On the other hand, this would be a talent jumping ship from a small company to a large company, then jumping ship AGAIN for a large company with an even bigger branch. If it happened, it would out Rosemi as a total cutthroat going after the biggest meal ticket possible without caring how much damage she does to the agency that invested in her. Considering the army of girls that audition for HoloEN, Cover management would have to be actually retarded to hire the one proven to be a ladder-climbing sociopath.

Of course this is all wild speculation on a completely hypothetical future event. It's just as likely that the Tsunderia rrats about Rosemi are just schizo hallucinations, and she'll have a long and successful career at Nijisanji.

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>>6569630
What's cutthroat about quitting one job for another, that's just adult real life.
She can still treasure the times she had and the friends she made, as coworkers.
It's not like she's quitting her best friends or family, they're just streamers.
The only one hurt seems to be the salty feelings of some people who take it personally that she wanted to climb up.

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>>6538737
Kana gives me massive "girl who gathers people around her to use them for attention and free things" vibes

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The timeline of her supposed ship jumping doesn't make sense. Why would she debut in another company just to quit right away? Tsunderia is not big enough that she would get a following from it, she doesn't get to keep any of the assets made for her, and she just burned bridges with a bunch of people. And NijiEN, back then and even now, wasn't a guaranteed success. Niji already has a reputation for having huge disparity between its top vtubers and its bottom ones, it's not like it's Hololive where you get 300k just for existing.

I don't get what she's supposed to have gotten out of this "scam". If anything it seems like she only lost from all this, and now that she graduated as an indie, if things go wrong in Nijisanji she's probably done as a vtuber.

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why does she live rent free in your heads?

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>>6569630
Yeah but if whats being said about her is true, thats a landmine waiting to go off.
I hope just in case its not her or the rrats aren't true as I'd rather not have this type of explosion happen, I can only hope staff did their job and filtered these types of people out of the pool.

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>>6550361
Hololive has merch?

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>>6568926
You'd have to look through Urara's last few chatting streams because I don't remember which one she said it in

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>>6569839
It doesn't make much sense because you're a normal well adjusted person.
She's the type person who will have someone buy her pretty things just so she can feel good about someone buying her pretty things, then once she gets home she trashes it because she had no intention of ever using it.

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>>6575806
Okay, boyfriend.

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>>6556272
The things people are saying about her are absolutely true. The channels have been scrubbed but it's very apparent if you were following her and aren't white knighting hardcore, but they're basically everything. She's an opportunist social climber and that's it. She's not a good guy but she's probably no worse than that. I'm sure she'll play nice at Nijisanji and cause zero trouble because she's getting what she wants.

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I really wanted her in hololive...maybe she can use nijisanji as a stepping stone to get there eventually.

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>>6569630
I think she's likely hit the roof of where she can go. Cover won't hire her with a rep like that,

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>>6569839
>Why would she debut in another company just to quit right away?
Because it's a nice bump on your CV when you apply. You won't be able to use the assets but your debut and original song MV makes for good demo reel material.

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>>6585254
>getting assets made for you by a company is good for your CV
>when those assets weren't even shown before auditions are almost closed
So you're saying she leaked assets to Nijisanji now? Or what, was she a spy? Did she deliberately get into Tsunderia to damage them on Nijisanji's orders?

None of this makes sense again.

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>>6569947
Spoonfeed me on this rrat anon?

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>>6528918
Will she be dommy mommy?

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>>6586008
The whole thread before my comment went into detail on the rrat.
But to sum up all they were saying, Miki may be a ladder climber who just used tsunderia as a means to get higher in the chain.
Whether thats true or not isn't something we can know for sure, but the whole situation is suspicious and could mean shes a landmine who'll cause drama in the future.

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>>6586008
tldr - miki, aka ria, was an indie turned tsunderia girl who joined just to make them waste money on her while she continued to stream as an indie without ever streaming as her tsunderia persona. then a few weeks later slapped urara, joined nijisanji, and burned tsunderia's saving account while also raping kana so hard she quit tsunderia as well.

If it wasn't for Miori coming into tsunderia and saving her with ancient wicken techniques tsunderia would have been finished.

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>>6590303
Very cool post, thank you Mio

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>>6586008
Miki joined Tsunderia and then realized how much a joke of a company they are and left. That's it.

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>>6585942
Reading comprehension anonchama:
>You won't be able to use the assets
>your debut and original song MV makes for good demo reel
Having the high quality song and the performance sample *while using those assets* on your resume is what makes you stand out better among other applicants

The accusation is benefiting from those assets to PRODUCE content that helps in getting into other companies.

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>>6591233
Ria debuted on YouTube: 2020/12/20
1st wave Nijisanji audition: until 2020/12/15.

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>>6591399
You realize they have access to their stuff before their debut right?

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>>6591399
also nta, but even if she didn't use the assets directly (which I doubt she used them because that would be dumb)
being part of the company, knowing their processes and how everything works, and so on gives you a huge head start on indies who have no idea what companies are looking for.

Its the difference between a fresh graduate and a guy with even a year of experience under his belt.

plus regardless all that timeline says is she applied while undergoing development and being under contract. i'll lowball it and say she was at least 'accepted' into tsunderia 3 months in advance while they work out designs and themes that work with her. so it wasn't like she had multiple applications back and nijisanji came back later than tsunderia, she applied after they were already in the process (and presumably after) they made her model and songs. which is a major cunt move no matter how you look at it.

I can only assume the reason she wasn't sued and ruined publically is that tsunderia didn't think someone would be such a backstabbing bitch and had a light contract, which is why in AMAs they clearly imply Ria was a huge problem they weren't expecting and how they're going about making sure that never happens again.

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What was Miki's content like?

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>>6591755
Probably another angle to Tsunderia's response is PR related. The one thing they have that no other EN startup has yet is a good and solid relationship with the VTubing community at large. How bad would it look if they put one of their chuubas on blast publicly for trying to further her career, even if she was breaking her contract? Niji would have more than likely passed on her in light of the fallout and she would have been blackballed, effectively destroying her career, but they'd be the big bad company that ruined one of their own. The smartest and most professional thing they could have done is handle the contract details with her behind the scenes and publicly wish her well, thereby painting their agency as a great place for someone to apply and grow as much as they possibly can.
I feel bad for them that they've had good talents with shitty personalities leave them twice, but the roster they have now is still among the best in the industry. And the way they've handled both departures show that their management is at least competent.

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>>6592575
To be fair, I also get the feeling Nijisanji knew what they were doing and for some reason just wanted her badly enough they paid off her contract, which is also why Tsunderia is so quiet about it as well.
I wouldn't be surprised in Nijisanji paid them some settlement and hush money for her.

Though that seems extreme because I can't imagine them liking Miki that much.

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>>6591918
yes

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>>6591755
>which is why in AMAs they clearly imply Ria was a huge problem
timestamp?

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>>6593586
Just watch the entire AMA someone linked it earlier, its a good listen through anyways and it gives some insight into Tsunderia as well.

The bits about Ria aren't bluntly told in any specific part, but if you give the whole thing a listen the subtext clearly comes out.

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>>6592676
I don't think Niji would have stuck with her if Tsunderia went public about anything. Look at their first six picks. Not a single yab (aside from this one, which is relatively quiet). They went with the safest possible people entering into a new market. Any sort of drama, especially something this big, would have put them off immediately

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>>6593984
>Not a single yab
more like nijifans just care less about yabs.
Finana is a known fish slut who ERPs all over the place.
The penguin has a boyfriend.
Pomu is apparently literally schizophrenic.

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>>6528918
All of their voices sound the same as the wave one voices. Figures Nijisanji would find the same bland; generic talent whose voices all sound similar in English as well as the native Japanese

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>>6594066
It's a bad thing that they don't sound like Kiara or Mori with her roastie voice? The absolute taste of holobronies.

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>>6594066
Holocope

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>>6594040
Having a boyfriend isn't a yab, especially if it's known from the start. Reasonable expectations and all that. It might not be the most marketable trait, but it's far from, say, openly advocating for a Marxist society.
I haven't heard the literal schizo claim before, but when she was a ghost, her normal content was so safe that I'd go so far as to call it sterile. If she is schizo, she knows how to control it.
Being a slut is mostly fine if marketed right. Even seiso idolland Hololive have Mel and Choco. The ERPs, well...depends on how E they get? That does sound like high yab potential though, you've got me there.

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Isn't talking about a Vtuber's roommate past against the rules? Do mods only care about Hololive?

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>>6594350
Yes.
But vtuber history isn't roommate history.

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>>6594350
We have this pattern where talking about it just before and a little after debut is fine but after a few months it becomes taboo.

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>>6594350
We're talking about her actions as her previous vtuber persona, and previous vtuber personas are not roommates. There's no IRL info being discussed here.

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>>6594040
You're saying Finana's part as if it makes her unlikable.

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>>6594320
The "Literal schizo" thing is just that she's been (very obviously jokingly) acting obsessed with Minecraft and spamming another member of her wave about it.
And I can't imagine anyone caring about the ERP, it's not like Niji livers won't talk about past partners, and that's inherently a tier below that.

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>>6594350
"roommate" = irl stuff
past lives are fine, so long as they were a vtuber at the time.

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>>6594413
Yeah well i got warned for that not long ago, i swear they enforce that rule however they feel

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>>6537104
>Didn't Coco want a Projekt Melody collab since forever?
She wanted one for over a year and management denied her. I think she had to stop talking about Melody too but I'm not 100% sure about that.

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>>6594704
She did. They might have changed their mind later, but the last thing Coco said when someone asked about Melody was basically "Management said I shouldn't even mention her name lol"

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>>6594756
What a shame. It seemed like they genuinely liked each other. Well at least her kouhai are getting to do Vshojo collabs so that must make her happy to some extent.

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>>6594826
That and I can see kson collabing with her sooner or later.