/wg/ - Writing General - Auspicious Occasion Edition

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This is the writing thread, for all of your fanfiction needs and desires. Check the archives below for everything the thread has put out so far, ranging from SFW to NSFW, fluff to tragedy, small literary works and shitposts alike!

Collective works so far are available in the archive:
https://script.google.com/macros/s/AKfycbxZVzygb0QjJ6hksAEYzCbLCegxsjhui97BB73qzPvU7GgJv6fXdAPmmIv6Qt9H5d5Fzg/exec

>"Isn't this just you fuckers writing fanfiction?"
Yes.

Previous thread: >>66564726 (Where we got the results of the Winter Writing War, talked about fics we wanted to see, and workshopped the contest)
/wg/ rentry: https://rentry.org/wgrentry/

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Story anchor.
Post 'em if you got 'em.

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Do you have a story you'd like to see written? Reply to this post with it! Try to be as clear and concise as possible; the better you describe your idea, the more likely it is to be picked up!

Consider forwarding your prompt to the prompt archive to keep your idea safe and alive forever! No information is gathered - it's all completely anonymous. Use the form below:
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Curious to see the prompt archive? Check it out here if you need a little more inspiration!
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Story recap. There were two stories posted last thread

HoloJourneys: (Across Deserts to the Oceans Blue, A Shining Star Debuts) Chapter 41: A Conflict In Full Swing, Keep Marching Onward >>66568195
Tags: (Watame, Flare, Polka, Nene, Botan, Marine, SFW, Action/Adventure, Fantasy, Fluff)

Blackbean Chapter Seven >>66573852
Tags: Botan, Towa, other chuubas

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CONTEST ANCHOR
The Winter Writing War has officially ended. Congratulations and good fighitng to the participants. The entries and winners can be found at: https://rentry.org/VTWRWWW

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>>66761786
Then either reduce the number of wordcount-based categories from the start until the risk is sufficiently mitigated, or set them up to be dynamic based on the number of submissions (like joining two adjacent categories if they have too few submissions, or just deleting them).
Though I think that the format in which the results are presented (with stats rather than simple placements) and the fact that the only thing you win is glory already makes it so "winning" isn't the same thing across categories. Winning a category with 3 entries is obviously less impressive than winning a category with 20 entries, and people reacting to the results will take that into account. There's no award ceremony that treats all the winners as equals.

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>>66762423
Mio and Anon are two old people in love?

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>>66762489
Of course not. That's Mio and Mio's boyfriend Tubs McFlubs, whom she chose over Anon due to his rizz power and huge cock.

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>>66762527
Ah, TB17A then

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>>66762594
Not quite. If you're lucky, you're sitting in the corner sniffing Mio's pussy juice stains on the used condoms and jerking off while Tubs satisfies her.

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>>66758634
>The categories I'm not so sure on. In the first contest, the SFW/NSFW split to me, felt a bit too narrow. NSFW has the problem however of being equated so smut so votes go out to "which did you find the hottest. For SFW, maybe we should consider what that one Anon said and do awards like "fic that made you laugh"
I don't like the SFW/NSFW split for contests either. It's useful for splitting the fics in two categories in the archive, but when the fics compete with each other it favours those that fit the expectations associated with the tags. SFW is essentially "which story touched your heart the hardest?" and NSFW is "which story made your dick the hardest?". Which aren't necessarily bad categories, but they should be named as such and accompanied by others.

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>>66762527
Tubbs does look like a nice fella. I'm happy for him.

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>>66761943
I think the problem remains and at that point, you're just splitting hairs. Like I appreciate the ambitions but let's be real guys, there are like 50 IPs in the last thread, we are not the Pulitzer. Let's keep things reasonable and achievable. Yes, a word count is limiting, that's the entire point. You only have a month to come up with an idea, outline it, write it, and edit it. Are you really going to waste time writing a ton or are you going to maybe change your mindset and set your goals according to the rules? Save your opus for later.

Now we could just be barking up the wrong tree and the problem was timing and not word count but I think having one is important, we can reduce it to 15k or keep it 25k.

>>66762424
>Then either reduce the number of wordcount-based categories from the start until the risk is sufficiently mitigated, or set them up to be dynamic based on the number of submissions
At that point there should just be either no word count at all or a strict limit. That just makes more busy work for the organizer IMO.

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>>66762883
>At that point there should just be either no word count at all or a strict limit. That just makes more busy work for the organizer IMO.
The latest contest benefitted a lot from the introduction of the under 5k category - it motivated multiple writers, including me. Investing work into expanding on that idea seems the most worth it, if anything! And neither you nor me can speak for the eventual organizer, who ultimately has to decide things. It's not our place to put limits or obligations on them months before the contest even starts.

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Okay. How about this compromise.
We go with broad over-categories that every fic is enrolled in automatically with the categories broadly corresponding to tags like NSFW, SFW, comedy, fluff, etc by way of being worded as
"What made my dick the hardest", "What made you laugh", "What touched my heart", etc.
Then have a tier system based on word count. Starting with an anything goes, all the way to microfiction.
Then we have a contest where this proves hilariously overcomplicated to actually run for the contest runner. Afterwards we have another 'fix the contest' discussion and finally converge on a simpler system.

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How about Fubuki and Non-Fubuki categories?

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>>66762873
I'm glad you're supportive of Tubs' happy ending, anon! Pun intended!

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>>66763198
Why though?

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>>66762883
>Yes, a word count is limiting, that's the entire point. You only have a month to come up with an idea, outline it, write it, and edit it. Are you really going to waste time writing a ton or are you going to maybe change your mindset and set your goals according to the rules? Save your opus for later.
You can submit any previously unpublished story. It doesn't have to be written entirely within the contest period.
And if you want to impose limits make it a soft limit by not having special categories for longer stories. A hard limit that just disqualifies stories because too much effort was put into them seems awful cost/benefit wise.
>>66763089
>We go with broad over-categories that every fic is enrolled in automatically with the categories broadly corresponding to tags like NSFW, SFW, comedy, fluff, etc by way of being worded as
>"What made my dick the hardest", "What made you laugh", "What touched my heart", etc.
That sounds less complicated for the contest runner. A lot of the work and a source of issues is sorting the stories by tags and putting them into the right categories.

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>>66763215
Abayo!

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Mio is built for ugly bastards

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I like how >>66758634 and >>66761399 are both telling writers that scope creep is a skill issue and to get over themselves but one uses it as a argument to lower the maximum words allowed while the other uses it to argue for allowing any fic length

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>>66763089
I approve of this compromise, except I'm fond of getting rid of the longer word count categories - to discourage scope creep like >>66763269 said, to not spread the entries thin like >>66761786 said, and to reduce the risk of the rules being hilariously overcomplicated like you said.
Writing is an iterative process, and contest design is as well; let's give something more nuanced a shot and see if it's worth it. I'd be willing to be the organizer for a contest like that.

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>>66763215
o7

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>>66763215
It took 18 minutes for the jealous janny and mad mod combo to stifle Tubs' sexual conquest. Let's see how long this one takes.

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To give my two cents, I think we can keep playing around with the contest rules until we find the right formula. After organising the first one and witnessing how the second one went down, I think next we should try the idea that some of the other anons have been suggesting like >>66763089 -- all stories are submitted to the same voting pool and different "prizes" are chosen as the voting criteria.

So before the contest starts the thread can decide on which prizes are available to the contest entries, like the example below:
>Best comedy
>Best (hottest) smut
>Best narrative
>Best characters
>Best ...
>Best ...
And so on. Then the writers can go wild, writing whatever the fuck they want and dumping it onto the contest anchor. Once the submission period is over the voters will come together and vote for which stories they think deserve each prize out of the entire entry pool.

As for the word limit issue, I always prefer giving more freedom to the writers. If we wanted to add a wordcount aspect we could have three or four categories at the end of the poll that DON'T contain all of the submitted stories, but rather the stories that fall within each individual wordcount limit, like:
>Best 0-1000 word fic
>Best 1001-5000 word fic
>Best 5001-10000 word fic
>Best 10001+ word fic
With each question only allowing you to select the relevant stories of each wordcount category.

For a contest like this, however, we'd need a shitload of stories to ensure one story doesn't end up taking like 90% of the prizes. To provide for this I say we let the thread recharge for a while and make contests less frequent, while also increasing the contest submission period to two months. With a length like that it can just be something hovering in the background should somebody have a story they wish to submit.
I'd like to hear everyone's opinions, though. It's just an outline of an idea and feels incomplete.

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>>66763269
>>66763585
I mean if you're seriously considering it as a way to simplify it for the contest runner. Maybe an easier way to dynamically do the word count categories without being complicated is to have word counts be self reported by each author when they post their fic. That way you'll have stories of similar length facing each other for a best in length as like a side category beside the main over categories.

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>>66763703
>"hahahaha dude look! its porn! its so funny!"
what even is the point of posting these if you are gonna cry when you get banned

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>>66763844
I think something like this system could work as a better foundation for a contest system. Also yeah, I think this needs more time for everyone to recharge their creative batteries if this is another competition rather than a disguised shill campaign like our first one intended to be.
Also
>Best narrative
This category name just makes me imagine some anon posting their rrat in thread and linking it to the contest post.

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>>66763844
Just my 2 cents, but I wouldn't be too worried about one story winning too much too easily - there's no fixed prize, like a trophy that would be the same regardless of how hard the competition was; how meaningful winning ends up being scales with the number of entries as I outlined in >>66762424. But I don't have anything against 2 months of submission period anyway.
I'd also delete the highest wordcount category, the one that allows any fics above a certain length. It's clear that some want a wordcount limit and telling writers to limit their scope creep if they want to compete in a wordcount category is a good compromise.

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>>66763703
Roughly 18 minutes again.

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>>66764181
I feel like if two anons somehow post two massive fics for a contest it would be a disservice to the thread if we don't let them directly compete against each other.

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>>66763844
My ideas for categories (not necessarily their precise names) would be
>Funniest
>Hottest
>Most Touching
>Most Creative
>Best Vtuber Characters

Hottest is basically what NSFW used to be, Most Touching is basically what SFW used to be. Funniest works well as a broad category because almost every fic includes at least some humour, Most Creative leaves room for everything outside of the standard styles and plots, and Best Vtuber Characters pays hommage to what this community is about. And of course there could be 1 or 2 additional ones that I didn't think of.

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>>66758634
>Another thing I'm curious about is those who didn't enter/vote. If there's anyone who feels comfortable explaining their decision I'd be glad to hear it.
I didn’t vote or enter anything in this contest because it felt rushed. It was dropped with hardly any build up right on the heels of the last contest, the info page was just a copy-paste from the info page and there seemed to be less excitement surrounding it overall. It felt very forced, if I had to find another way to describe it.

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>>66764651
As for myself, I did not vote because I was daunted by the amount of shit I had to read to make my vote be an informed one.

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>>66764651
if im being honest, I was intimidated by the contest, was too caught up on things on my end to read the fics submitted in the contest and like >>66764810 I didn't vote because i didn't read

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>>66764105
I think an annual contest is fine in terms of frequency. People will always have other WIPs anyway and as you said need time to recharge.
>Separate category for best rrat
Brilliant.

>>66764181
You make a good point about the wordcount limit, but if we do delete the infinite length category then I'd at least like to raise the roof above 10k words. Adding onto this though, I guess setting a word count limit would level the playing field some more when it comes to different length fics competing for one of the prizes. Longer stories are generally going to have more plot elements and better character moments, making it easier for them to score prizes like "best characters" and stuff. By adding a maximum word count it allows shorter stories to stand a chance at taking some of those prizes since it won't be a 5k word story squaring up against a 50k word monolith.

>>66764547
This is going to be the easiest aspect of the contest to brainstorm, and I like what you have. Depending on how many stories we get we could actually change how many prizes are available throughout the submission period like that other anon mentioned.

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>>66764810
>>66765011
So the time dedicated to reading and voting should be longer, and it should be possible to only vote in select categories.
>>66765052
>Longer stories are generally going to have more plot elements and better character moments, making it easier for them to score prizes like "best characters" and stuff. By adding a maximum word count it allows shorter stories to stand a chance at taking some of those prizes since it won't be a 5k word story squaring up against a 50k word monolith.
Longer stories take more effort to write and are naturally better for the reason you explained, not by some trick or quirk - so them having an advantage (and not an insurmountable one, I'd argue) doesn't have to be seen as an issue. It also might be balanced out by the likelihood that fewer of the voters will read the longer stories (attentively). And in line with the previous arguments about not every placement being the same, a 4k words fic coming 2nd in "Best character" can be considered as, or even more, impressive than the 60k words fic that got the 1st place.

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>Fractured Night, Salvaged Night

I read this about 5 times in a row, can tell that this is a truely masterpiece. How could I explain. The words are pretty, the plot was nice, especially loved that there were lot of fluffy parts. If who loves fluffy ones, won't regret about reading this once.

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>>66766556
It is a very nice fic, ESLbro.

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>>66766556
>>66766693 (me)
Wait a minute, you must be from the kizunaai board on dcinside. Koreanbro???

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I'm kinda stumped in my fic here. I had the Idea that the mc would be a sort of expert shogi player. In order to display this I had the idea of him playing Pomu.
what I'd like advice on is, should I make it so that Pomu needs to be taught how to play shogi to put her in the reader's perspective where the mc explains the rules while they play,

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>>66766959
I'm kinda stumped in my fic here. I had the Idea that the mc would be a sort of expert shogi player. In order to display this I had the idea of him playing Pomu.
what I'd like advice on is, should I make it so that Pomu needs to be taught how to play shogi to put her in the reader's perspective where the mc explains the rules while they play, or do you think this would be too boring?
(reposting because I forgot to finish my post)

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>>66766556
Welcome back! Our winter contest had some stories with under 5000 words that are good to translate if you want them.
On a personal note, I hope you liked The Oni's Rebellion because I wrote it with you in mind.

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>>66767048
I think it depends on what you want to convey and if You, the writer, can explain the game well enough.
For example my friend sucks ass at explaining chess. He uses the advanced terms with newer players and his explanations dont focus on why are you failing.

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>>66765625
>it should be possible to only vote in select categories.
Funnily enough I think this might be the one flaw in the proposed new contest rules for categories being discussed since the overall categories are an "out of everything what did you think was X" situation. You can't exactly do a partial vote and abstain in what you're competing on if every fic is part of every category... Though admittedly this does nip that particular problem in the bud, since you either fully abstain or vote for what you liked.

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>>66767441
luckily for me in that case, I don't actually know the advanced terms of shogi. the scene is meant to display the mc's ability to strategize and hint that he's a tactician at heart something that Pomu is testing him on in this scene

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>>66768485
Then why do you want to write an advanced shogi scene? Like I know with good enough writing you can fake it enough for the casual reader but why can't you just make it about a strategy game you actually know advanced tactics for?

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>>66768485
You should use a game you and most readers actually understand.

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>>66768613
>>66768877

well shogi fits the setting I'm going for best and the "promotion" mechanic of shogi is tied to an ability the mc gets later on in the chapter. I figured the important stuff like vocabulary I'd work on in post after doing some homework
also, even though I'm not well versed in the game, I am really good at getting my ass kicked in it. so what I plan to do is play some shogi game I can probably find online, play the ai at the highest difficulty, get bodied and write the scene out as if the AI is the mc while also doing some homework on vocabulary words and set ups

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>>66768485
Then you are commiting a mistake. Chess and Shogi are complex games, but don't actually work as something to show how good of a strategist you actually are.
If i may suggest, why don't you have pomu suggest shogi, anon tells her its no good and she asks why.
Anon tells her that "pieces that exist only to be sacrified doesnt translate to real life" or something and spark a conversation on strategy from there. It shows personality and character

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>>66769068
that's...actually not a bad idea. and i suppose it beats teaching the reader a game i hardly know for a single scene.

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Are series admissible for future contests?

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>>66770039
hey glad it works for you. I dont think having to exp'lain the game is a bad idea per se, its just that if you dont know how to explain it then it becomes a drag to read through.
>Oh i see pomu, you did the fartgambit on t87 with your rook...however you failed to consider b72 subsection c...OR MY TOWER!

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>>66770367
You can submit individual chapters, but if they don't work on their own they might suffer.

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>>66770367
In the first chapters and series pilot sense? Yes, in fact the first few chapters of tower of tattle and the first chapter of by that sea are one of the more well received entries to the first contest.
If you mean new chapters of an existing series? Nothing bans them but unless you're posting independent side stories or part of an anthology you're probably screwing yourself when it comes to the vote.

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>>66763341
t. Ayame after she's stolen Mio's chad boyfriend from her.

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>>66771435
Well, I'm indeed submitting my Ch1 of the series if ever.

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>>66771914
Anon... The next contest is like 6 months away. Unless you're planning on publishing an entire series on one day that seem like you'd be waiting way too long.

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>>66772233
Procastination: prepare for trouble
My FE mod: and make it double
Chores: meow

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>>66774611
Red nails on an already sex woman
MUH

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Write.

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>>66776912
Work first. Then work out. Write later.

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>Tenma Office Space got deleted
At least the hard archive saved it

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>>66777378
This be looking like some time traveler moved a stone too many

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>>66777378
Cute hat

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>>66776912
I wrote seven pages just now

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>>66767437
Yeah, I've already read that.
I'll translate it after finish the internet idol suisei

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>>66780724
Good to hear that you liked it! Nothing better than correcting Ojou, right

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>>66781795
>Ayame's face when you challenge her to a sword fight to near death so that she stops trying to prevent you from impregnating Mio

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>>66762256
Platonically sharing a bed with Nerissa and having to stealthily jack off to her big fat ass

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>>66783986
And then one of her sisters shows up and tosses you a pair of panties, which look to be Nerissa's size. She tells you to can go nuts with those but on one condition, she wants to watch.

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>>66763060
>The latest contest benefitted a lot from the introduction of the under 5k category
I agree with you, but I have to ask: Did it motivate you because you found it to be a good challenge to tackle or because it was an achievable goal? Or something else?
>And neither you nor me can speak for the eventual organizer, who ultimately has to decide things. It's not our place to put limits or obligations on them months before the contest even starts.
While true, don't use the sentiment as a cop-out man, good God.

>>66763269
>You can submit any previously unpublished story. It doesn't have to be written entirely within the contest period.
I'm aware, what I meant was that those stuck in WIP hell are going to continue to be stuck in WIP hell regardless of the contest. Plenty of authors didn't get an entry out in time the first go around and the time limit didnt light a fire under their ass. Another limit isn't going to reduce the benefit because the benefit wasn't there to begin with. Either they enter or they don't and publish later. If they want to complete they need to change gears is all I'm saying. We will never get Gura's Cumflation Adventure at this rate.

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>>66763844
Not interested in the word count compromise. Again, spreading entries too thin for a niche community. My hardline stance is either have one (1) or don't bother.

>>66764651
So my gut instinct was right and that it was a timing thing then.

>>66765052
>Adding onto this though, I guess setting a word count limit would level the playing field some more when it comes to different length fics competing for one of the prizes.
I said as much last thread...

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>>66782584

Cheeky brat! Stopping me from correcting this wolf! Must be corrected!

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>>66789650
Actually, her love for Tubs McFlubs is what's stopping you, but by all means keep thinking you have a chance.

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>>66789650
>Ayame soundly beats your ass with her fightarded oni strength
>hfw this works against her and Mio takes it upon herself to nurse you back to health, while prescribing you hot wolf pussy as the only cure.
Love always wins bay bee.

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>>66789734
...who?

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>>66790045
Mio's 170kg boyfriend.

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>>66782584
So its now canon that Ayame is the new Taiga?

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>>66790156
I could see Ayame in that role if she is Mio's daughter.

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>>66790580
She can also easily fill it in she isn't Mio's daughter.

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>>66790684
I guess, but it feels a bit random.
If she's Mio's daughter it feels like a reversal of the "Mio won't let you fuck her precious daughteru" concept.

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>>66782584
I'll give this a spin

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>>66787214
>I agree with you, but I have to ask: Did it motivate you because you found it to be a good challenge to tackle or because it was an achievable goal? Or something else?
The Under 5k category made it so that fics which didn't take very long to write still had a good shot at achieving a high placement in a category. I thought that if you wanted to do well in the SFW or NSFW categories you had to commit to a long fic.

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>>66793223
Long fics have a better chance of being good, but they aren't inherently better - Blackbean being a shining example of this.

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>>66787214
>So my gut instinct was right and that it was a timing thing then.
No, it wasn’t just a timing thing, the whole thing felt low effort. As I said the info page was simply ripped from the last contest and with how the contest was pushed in the beginning despite not many anons seeming interested, it felt like the organiser was doing it for their own personal reasons.

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>>66793767
>Long fics have a better chance of being good, but they aren't inherently better
Sure, but with enough submissions it's very likely that some good long fics are submitted and take the top spot in the categories they are allowed in.
>Blackbean being a shining example of this.
Wait a minute...you're that shitposter who motivates the Blackbean author through spite!

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>>66793922
No, I'm not.

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>>66792995
I look forward to reading the fruits of your labor.

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>>66794271
So he's got TWO of them now!? Way to make all us other authors feel jealous over how many antis this story gets.

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>>66793223
So what you're saying is that the strict word count made it so more authors felt like they could get something out in time while also having a fighting chance. Interesting.

>>66793827
I see. I don't know if the info being ripped can be helped, we are still trying to figure this format out. The lack of energy was there though I agree with you

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>>66794561
It's cute that you think disliking a story automatically means actively hating on it.

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>>66792691
>I guess, but it feels a bit random.
You and Mio are childhood friends and Ayame is that one "unknown friend" you don't know about that Mio met when she and you lose contact with eachother.

Is that a good enough scenario? You and Mio meet again as adults but whenever the two of you try and get intimate Ayame would "suddenly" pop out of thin air and ruin the mood. She would then take a liking to you and Mio isn't "strong willed" to stop her (Ayame) from flirting (or getting REALLY chummy) with you.

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>>66795082
I mean, you can write whatever you want - it comes down to the quality of the premise and the writing, ultimately, and there is always potential in covering new ground. I'm just a sucker for working with some established tropes, both because I like them and because they allow the reader to get into the premise easier.

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>>66795444
It was merely a possibility despite it being a poor one. But I genuinely think the only one that should fill Taiga's role is Taiga himself.

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>>66794491
Oh sorry, I forgot to mention I'll ditch the sword fighting part. I have something else in mind with rrat!Ayame.

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>>66796060
Still sounds great. Godspeed.

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>>66794950
I mean, that one guy goes out of his way to remind the author how much he sucks. Hating something takes more effort than just disliking something.

It also shows that you're mad at something that could've been better or improve. Like I hate Darkest Dungeon 2, and even more so on release because I know there's a good game buried beneath Red Hook's faggotry.

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>>66795082
Unrelated, but for some reason this just makes me imagine Ayame is some kid from the future coming back in time to make sure her parents get together, and you're not her dad, so she's desperately making sure you and Mio don't end up together. (Perhaps with like a twist of this meddling being the reason the two of you end up together for real, rather than breaking off due to some internal X factor)

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>>66796167
You're making more assumptions again. On an anonymous imageboard. I'm not mad at the fic, I just dislike it and used it as an example of what I think represents why long fics aren't automatically good.

Imagine if every single one of your defensive posts we all just assumed you were the author of said story and dismissed your comments as an inability to accept the fact somebody doesn't like what you've produced. Get real.

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>>66783986
>start jacking it. Notice she's moving and stop
>Is she?
>Nerissa reaches for a tissue and finishes
>then inmediatly starts a second round
Its either that or she molests you while she thinks you are sleeping

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>>66796167
Bro what did you have to remind me about how DD2 turned out? Like what the actual fuck? Sure they took the epic pill, but even with all that fucking beta testing they still didn't make a good game. I also get that they just didn't want to make a traditional sequel in that it's the same gameplay as the first but enhanced and such, but this just wasn't the right path.

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>>66796522
I made no assumptions, just stating that ONE guy always goes after that author, and that it probably takes him more effort to constantly seek him out and shit on him than to just ignore his works.
Get your head out of your ass.

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>>66797132
Okay, it's clear to me you're just the author whinging. Consider yourself ignored.

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>>66796167
I would argue that having a single dedicated hater is more prestigious than only having fans

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>>66794921
To be clear: The Under 5k category had that effect. A contest wide word limit wouldn't have, because then there'd be all the more dedicated authors to compete with.
The key is having a category that seems easy to compete in, because the chief barrier to entering contests (or writing in general) is being afraid of investing too much effort for what you get out of it.

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>>66762232
Blackbean Chapter Eight

https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vTFUT3b68Q2_BIyZJbIqO818tjJixf2kzSvDxOaFIl8em4DXieeMpJBhFJMlXfe70t7nzeoWWnjBDT2/pub

tags: Mio, Watame, Reine, Fumino Tamaki, FWMC, Lui, Ayame, fantasy, adventure

I made sure to give a lot more flare to the description scenes as suggested so I hope it flows a bit nicer this time. Hope you enjoy and do give a critique if needed.

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>>66762256
how come we've never had any stories of chuuba caniballism? don't tell me none of you have ever imagined any of the predator holos eating watame (not sexually)

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>>66803141
/meat/ was banished a long time ago.

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>>66803694
so was ringo but we've still got plenty of their fics and i often see some discussion about their proclivities

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>>66801599
Is this written by the same guy who wrote the Reine molestation fic?

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>>66805790
Yeah. I'm the one who wrote Sakura Summer. I know my adventure writing isn't quite as good but I hope it's enjoyable likewise.

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>>66803141
>>66803694
cannibalism/gore is in a weird spot where its weird enough so it filters a bunch of people and its also hard to write and not come across as edgy.
So your best shot is someone who really fucking loves cannibalism or comissioning an author that can break that skill barrier and write something good.

or settle for "then Botan ate half of nene's skull and she said blimey why did u do that botan"

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>>66806754
>then Botan ate half of nene's skull and she said blimey why did u do that botan

I could jerk off to this.

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>>66806829

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>>66803141
We had one where haachama ate a baby and left haato to deal with it. Omelas guy had a scp-inspired series he ended up abandoning where Watame is an object and she gets killed and eaten repeatedly.

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If we’re making the contest an annual/bi-annual thing, should we make a set date? And should we have one dedicated organiser or rotate it?

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>>66806754
>all this cannibalism talk
>recently played Left 4 Dead 2 after all these years with some really nice mods
You know what, a zombie apocalypse fic with cannibalism wouldn't be so bad...

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>>66801599
So this time the flashback scene worked a little more nicely, but it reads a little flat. Like the shift from talking about how her changed biology is negatively impacting her, to how her own gift is uncontrollable and threatening to herself was a little too radical. There was not a lot of build up to what could be interesting magical experimentation, and it just kinda abruptly ends. I suppose it offers a good contrast for how she eventually gains practiced control over it enough to help with a rather creative solution in the next scene.
For the meat of this plotline itself, I feel like it was anticlimactic. The sudden removal of one of its primary antagonistic actors kinda robs the story of that awaited confrontation. I can't help but feel like there might have been another part of two for this, since we go from an initial faceoff, to kinda putting the pieces together almost from nothing. The "solution" is also pretty jarring from what we've seen from the characters so far, and feels like using dynamite to pull a nail from a board. Sorry if this feels harsh, but seeing the second team's plotline come to such a swift ending kinda took the payoff away from it.
Some suggestions around the prose itself, try not to use a phrase like "5 AM" to describe the early morning. The exact position on the sun dial is a little less important in a fantasy driven world than the color and shifting hues of the skyline. Your world wants to be mystical and pretty, even in times where bleakness and uncertainty slowly spread within it. Let yourself make it pretty.
Scene descriptors had a little more effort put into them like you set out for, so nice going there.
I'll be curious what becomes of the dogs at some point, though it's probably not a happy end.

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>>66809816
>So this time the flashback scene worked a little more nicely, but it reads a little flat.

I actually had the same thought when I reread it a few times and I think I have the solution for it. I'm going to do a fun little training montage for Watame to show how she got more fine control over her abilities but also make it a bit more humorous. I think I need to resist the urge to make it sad. When I think about it, there's a lot of ways I can inject humor into Watame figuring out her ability.

>Sorry if this feels harsh,

It doesn't and I agree. I genuinely don't know what it was but I have been stumped on this plot segment since before christmas. It's why last chapter didn't have it lol. It was anti-climatic but for some reason I just couldn't figure out how to make it work a bit better. I'm sorry it landed so poor. This isn't quite the end of that plot though so hopefully in the future it can get some of the magic that it missed. What I am glad to hear is that you found the buildup interesting because honest to god I thought that was lacking too lol

>Let yourself make it pretty.

It's funny but that's genuinely helpful advice. Writing things that are more chipper and pretty is something I'm not really used too since my bread and butter has always been tragedy. It sounds really silly to say it, but that actually helped more than you think lol.

>I'll be curious what becomes of the dogs

It'll be tough but I'm not going to rake them over the coals. What I learned with Civia is that sometimes its fine to dial back the "suffering build's character." Ayame, Tamaki and the dogs are going to have their own tight knit plot together. I'm going to take your lead and not just put them through hell the entire book lol.

Thank you for the critique and I am sorry that plot sorta fell flat. I genuinely don't know why I couldn't get the gears greased for it.

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>>66810615
>I genuinely don't know why I couldn't get the gears greased for it.
Maybe writing as a hobby just isn't for you.

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>>66810615
Thanks for taking the feedback in stride. In regards to the plot not coming out quite like you wanted, since you are writing multiple plotlines at once, you have the advantage of spending however much time you want on ones that feel more right while you try to figure out ones that are giving you trouble. I would easily let opt for taking the time to figure out the right ingredients for your cooking over settling for something that is half baked when it doesn't necessarily have to be the next thing you write. Sometimes when you write/outline something else, it helps you find answers to the questions you might have about something else.
Something else that might help to think about if you are hitting blocks with your conflicts and their resolutions, is to think about the characters involved, and the world state. What needs to happen to get things to their eventual next state? How will the current conflict be a step towards that? Who will change? What do they learn/do? What are the consequences of the resolution itself? Those types of questions can help guide you towards how the story is meant to play out.
I also think if you let yourself get more chipper, it can make your tragedies hit a little harder. Keep on improving.

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>>66808794
How about making the next one in vaguely the same place as the first writing rumble. By which I mean have it end around 8/25, with the start date being based on how long we're going for a submission/writing period. So if we do the two months period we'd start in late June if we keep the one month submission period we'd start in late July. Meanwhile if we do another winter rumble we should probably move the ending period to January and have the submission period be from November/December.
As for who runs the contest it should be whoever is interested/willing to archive and run the voting forms during the contest period.

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>>66809705
Like a comedy fic, a disturbing fic, a gorefest or a smutfic? Cannibalistic zombie smut sounds awesome.

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>>66812869
Thank you for sticking with it and giving me pointers. I'll keep practicing and keep trying to make each chapter better. Especially with those guiding questions you put because that's actually what I've been trying to iron out with what will become the Botan-Towa plot. I want it to be such a big, paradigm altering point in her life that it shapes her into the more sullen, serious character of book one.

Thank you as always. I will keep trying my best.

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>>66803141
Aside from the reasons this anon says. >>66806754 Cannibalism is just in a weird double whammy where it's hard to conceptualize a good plot for it in the context of chuuba fanfiction. Obviously there's the pure fetish angle but like, even the best of /meat/'s writing was just shock value "I'm eating my oshi/my oshi eats someone" with varying levels of 'supposed to titillate the reader'.
You can't really have a dialogue with a piece of meat. So whatever's interesting plot wise effectively comes from beside the cannibalism and not from the act itself.
Which basically locks down cannibalism fics to either fetish material or something where it's a side thing in a character piece examining their psychology as they go about it.
The /meat/ backlog is an example of the former, and I vaguely remember a micomet fic posted around valentine's day last year that's an example of the latter (though it's even more cannibalism adjacent since eit was about suicopath feeding zombie Miko with survivor flesh.)

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>>66815226
You keep posting how thankful you are but you don'r ever take any of his advice. You just like the attention.

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>>66762256
Towa announces (You) and hers engagment to the rest of the office only for several of her coworkers to immediately try to kill you

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>>66822013
>picrel

"Towa...is mine. You understand? Or do I have to make you? Ha? Now call it off...NOW."

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>>66808794
Didn't the first host make an email address solely for the contest? If they aren't against it I think the role should fall to them.

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>>66822013
While another few try to kill Towa...? Maybe?

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NO NO NO NO NO
IT'S ALL COMING CRUMBLING DOWN
FUUUUUUUUCK

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oh...

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whoa wow that was not on my bingo card

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>>66825066
That sounds like a fun gag to build up in between Laplus trying to kill you. Like a mini-mystery element in slowly finding out who was also into you by way of how they're trying to kill Towa.

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>>66815187
All four combined, preferably, but with an emphasis on comedy, smut, and gore with the disturbing elements subtly in the background. Something that feels like those 70s horror films with zombies, gore, cannibalism, and cheesy horny bullshit. I still gotta think of a nice prompt, though...

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>>66826424
Banpire has evolved to vampfire...

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Holy SHIT, I did not expect that. That was completely out of left field.


...I wonder if she's going to go back to showing her butt on camera?

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What the HELL
I have both Mel AND Pomu in my fic and they're both dead now wtf

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Please don't let it be over yet... I still have so many stories and ideas left to write....

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oE8HLVwpimA
Get in here, lads, Fubuki's sure to be crying.

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>>66828895
I'll just wait for the clips...
Sigh...

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>Pomu leaving
>Mel fucking executed
This year is off to a fucking horrible start.

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>>66828790
The Holofantasy curse

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>>66828895
Fubuki's normal voice is giving me a boner wtf

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>>66829377
No, anon... the Holoslavia curse
I guess Gura and Ame are getting terminated/graduated too then kek

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>>66829416
Isn't that Aki?

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Oh fuck what does my oshi thin-oh word okay

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>>66829440
>Ame
WAIT! AT LEAST LET ME FINISH MY STORY ABOUT HER! FUCK!
Give me like two years.

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>>66829508
Oh yeah, Haachama is talking now. Guess I'll have to sub to Aki.

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>>66829651
What's funny is that Mel is pretty much dead in the outset of the fic, while Pomu dies later. The fucking symmetry is something else.

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>>66828895
Only a few sniffles out of her.. what a shame.

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>>66828895
Fubuki did good, proud of her.

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>>66832602
She always does good. Always tactful in every situation, is always considerate of everyone around her. She's wonderful.

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So I have to ask...
What were your Mel wips and do you plan on finishing them?

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>>66832720
She knew what she had to do, that she had to be the one to keep it together. It's not an enviable position but in times like that it's necessary.

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A good tragedy is always compelling to read...

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>>66833071
I wrote half of an opening chapter a year ago which would feature Mel as one of the central characters (at least in the first act), but it's been sitting untouched since then so I wouldn't call it a WIP.
Still, I had intended on writing banpire sex at least once but now I doubt I'll find the motivation. Shit sucks.

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>>66825926
>>66826424
>Wonder what the fuck yous two are talking about
>See the sticky
What a way to start the fucking morning. Since Mel got "terminated" and not "graduated" does that mean she's getting the Rushia treatment?

I will take back what I said if a helpful anon tells me "why" she's terminated and I only just woke up and have no time to read the sticky.

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>>66834731
>I only just woke up and have no time to read the sticky.
But you've got time to read and post on /wg/. Yeah, sure thing buddy. Go read the sticky.

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>>66834731
Yep pretty much.
No one knows for sure, current medicated rrat is that it was a major NDA breach that was significant enough she had to get fired, but not big enough that they still let her have one last goodbye via tweet message. It was amicable enough that it was mutually agreed at least as per the japanese message from cover.

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>>66833071
I was seriously considering going for that Mel /ss/ fic someday, but now I think writing it would just make me sad
I’m not the type of person to fall in love with a chuuba, but if I was, Mel would’ve been the one who took my heart

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>>66833071
>What were your Mel wips
She's not a major character, but she's there. It's the Holoslavia story I'm working on at the moment.
>do you plan on finishing them?
Yup

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>>66834934
I have like what, so many goddamn tabs opened up which makes my chromebook run really, really slow. Plus I hadn't refreshed the catalogue so it was slower to do that than what it is to make a reply here when I saw the news. I have the sticky open now and am going to do a good through read through it.

>>66834967
Poor Mel. Whatever dumb thing she did I truly hope she's okay.

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>>66834731
Mel got to post a goodbye message and other holos seem genuinely sad about her fate, so that's different from Rushia. But formally, a termination is a termination. Mel's channel and all official references to her will be gone.

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>>66833071
I had an idea for a simple smut story where Mel keeps breaking into your house in the middle of the night after you had a drunken one-night stand with her, which according to the rules means you invited a vampire into your home and now she can visit whenever she likes. The good news is that she's actually pretty nice, and usually just wants to have sex or cuddle because she's lonely.
>do you plan on finishing them?
I don't know. I've been too sad and stressed out to write much of anything for awhile. This whole mess just makes it worse.

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>>66833071
>Plans
Frankly? nothing. She has interacted with my oshi one or two times but thats it. I still liked her goofy self, so might try and sneak her into the background to honor her memory.
Helps that her termination wasnt laced by poison like Rushia's

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>>66838058
>The good news is that she's actually pretty nice, and usually just wants to have sex or cuddle because she's lonely.
I thought it was because she was "flirty" and you kept trying to stop her from feeding off you but you never could say no to her for some reason.

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Uppy?

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>>66843950
We're on downers

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Well fuck. This is not what I wanted to see today. Christ, I'm really curious as to what went down, but above all just upset this has happened. It's a sobering reminder of how fragile the balance in this niche is. Best of luck to the sex vampire, her ASMRs were enjoyable and I regret never taking the chance to write her.

>>66766556
Thank you Koreabro, it means a lot for my stories to transcend the language barrier and be enjoyed by people across the world, especially if it was good enough to be read 5 times in a row. Godspeed with the translating.

>>66824931
I mostly made that email address because I needed a new burner account and happened to be hosting the contest. I intended to host more contests since I had it anyway, but it's not like just owning an email address gives me executive authority for being the organiser. Don't get me wrong, I'd be more than happy to, though if we're looking at the timeframe that >>66813590 suggested (June/July to September) that's around the time I'll be moving to Japan so I could be a little busy.

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I love drama SO FUCKING MUCH

Way more than vtubers themselves