/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

I honestly don't understand what's wrong with male collabs

If that's cuckshit then female chubas collabing with females and lezzing it up is peak cuckshit too.
Don't tell me the logic here is you are okay with females cucking you.

The only sane approach is to respect their collab choices.
There's nothing wrong with male collabs as long as they don't outright do sexual shit on screen

if anything male x female banter is more entertaining.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66963925
>males and females are the same!
ywnbaw

[Anonymous No.]

>>66963925
Nice try Bae. Still not watching you. Have fun checking the bratz

[Anonymous No.]

>>66964028
They have same rights, and homosexuality is seen as normal in the civilized parts of the world. I'm more worried about getting pink triangle'd. Getting cucked because she's a lesbian is actually worse.

[Anonymous No.]

Keep spamming threads bro!
You'll get em eventually!
Hopefully something takes your head off before then!

[Anonymous No.]

>>66963925
>If that's cuckshit then female chubas collabing with females and lezzing it up is peak cuckshit too.
>Don't tell me the logic here is you are okay with females cucking you.
Yeah because straight men definitely view two girls making out the same way they do a girl and a guy making out. Absolutely, sis.

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>>66963925
>you are okay with females cucking you
Incels are okay with it because they think they can "fix" lesbians.

[Anonymous No.]

Ok, let me spell it out for you sister. We men differentiate between high-status and low-status men. High-status men get to do what they want. If a high-status man wants to collab with vtubers, more power to him. I'd even call it based.
Low-status men, on the other hand, do not get to do what they want. Low-status men are to be kept away from women, because they are scoundrels. Low-status men is a category that encompasses all kinds of ecelebs, male vtubers, and other men that have achieved minor fame despite having no real feats to show for it. It is not their place to collab with vtubers.
TL;DR collabing with male vtubers goes against the natural order of things

[Anonymous No.]

>>66964160
nah

[Anonymous No.]

I don't like collabs period. They're talking to each other and not me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66964614
High status men? You mean you're okay of trump molests your oshi?

[Anonymous No.]

>>66963925
It's not worth thinking about or questioning. It's their "unicorn culture".
It may be foreign to you and it's the minority in the grand scheme of things, but it's a part of hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66964160
>They have same rights
Not everywhere they don't and hopefully it stays that way.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66964420
Straight men do enjoy straight romance without seething

[Anonymous No.]

>>66964693
>>66964770
The world will change for the better, and you will be left behind if you remain in your old ways.

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>>66963925
You think those two are the same because you're an unironic faggot, sorry to tell you anon. You love seeing girls you like being hit on by other men, you want to pay them to watch that. You are the problem, scum like you are why it keeps happening.

[Anonymous No.]

Keep telling yourself that bvtmphase cuck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66964770
Only the civilized parts of the world matters. No one cares about regressive shitholes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66963925
Yes, yes. I'm sure you know what's better for the majority of Hololive talents than the talents themselves.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66963925
Nijisanji did unrestricted male-female collabs, look what happened.
If you don't speak up now they WILL outright start doing sexual shit on screen.

And let me dumb it down for you without unicorns: We came to watch female vtubers, not male vtubers or e-celebs, so we don't like content with male vtubers/e-celebs in it, simple as that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66963925
Lesbians can't cuck me because I don't believe in homosexuality.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66965251
>We came to watch female vtubers, not male vtubers or e-celebs, so we don't like content with male vtubers/e-celebs in it, simple as that.
You can just not watch that specific video if you don't like it but nah you'll stop watching her altogether and then go on to antipost all over the internet as if she was your ex that betrayed you or some shit lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>66965511
You can just ignore unicorns but here you are telling them you are a cuck.
You just answered your own question.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66965616
Can't ignore them when they shit up the entire board

[Anonymous No.]

>>66965511
>let me watch and pay for something i don't like
lmao cuck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66965730
You don't have to watch them or donate to them. Just shut the fuck up instead of badmouthing them all over the internet just cause they didn't pander to you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66965731
funny since we are in a homobeggar thread and not a unicorn one, wonder who is shitting up the board.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66965227
Actually hologirls love male collabs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66965836
This from you:
>You can just not watch that specific video if you don't like it
I don't watch or donate to them but here you are crying like a bitch because of it and telling people to ignore the male part but still watch them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66965836
>Doesn't watch
>Doesn't donate
>Begs for collabs anyway
Yes, the girls should totally stop pandering to the ones who actually do the first two. Bravo.

[Anonymous No.]

Id rather vtubers never mention men at all. Regardless of buzzwords or seething. I'll just drop them if they do it often.

[Anonymous No.]

What exactly could you find interesting, compelling, or fun about another man low key and sometimes blatantly flirting with your girl? You have some serious mental issues OP
>>66964160
If you lose your girl to a woman that's a major skill issue from your part
>>66964867
>>66965084
In your "civilized" parts of the world you mutilate babies, perform baby murder legally, and you are going extinct as well.
>>66965437
It's not that homophiliacs don't exist but that's only purely possible for dudes (they can become mindbroken enough when they get raped as kids). Women aren't really lesbians, they might be bi at most.

[Anonymous No.]

a 4th thread has officially died from this OPnigger spamming catalog in the last 12 hours

[Anonymous No.]

>>66963925
I watch vtubers because they're cute, and I want to fuck them, so I don't want them flirting with or talking to other guys. Women hanging out with other women is normal, but a woman that hangs out with loads of guys is a whore. It destroys my mental image of them, and that ruins the experience for me. Do I care if they have a relationship or a partner? No, but I don't want to hear about it. As far as the industry is concerned, you're forever single. Don't like it? You can keep watching, but I won't.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66966026
Conveniently taking out this part
>then go on to antipost all over the internet as if she was your ex that betrayed you or some shit lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>66966163
>unicorns are thirdie subhumans
Makes sense

[Anonymous No.]

>>66965837
>blatant falseflag OP
>totally 100% real beggar thread
ogey

[Anonymous No.]

>>66966163
>What exactly could you find interesting, compelling, or fun about another man low key and sometimes blatantly flirting with your girl? You have some serious mental issues OP
It's not about flirting you retarded cuck. You can only think about getting cucked.
Females have to be pretty self conscious around other females so as to not hurt them.
this is not the case when they interact with males. This is why female x male banter is better.

[Anonymous No.]

>cuck
>unicorn
>cuck
>unicorn
there is it anons I have summed up the whole thread no need to read further

[Anonymous No.]

>>66964867
>for the better
funny how thats never been explained or ratified, only alluded to. in your proposed world everyone mashes together and destroys all diversity through long term periods of mass civil conflict. even without the conflict, the end result is the destruction of diversity. you havent thought it through.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66963925
>I honestly don't understand what's wrong with male collabs
Nothing. (You)r mistake was looking at the catalog.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66966599
Did you miss the success of HoloID nigger?

[Anonymous No.]

>>66966901
I'm not interested in calling them homo beggars, these are terms made up by butthurt fags that have nothing to say. Fact is, I'll watch the content I like, you'll watch the content you like, and no amount of gas-lighting is going to change that. In-fact, the gas-lighting creates resentment that leads to these kinds of threads. The only way the community will heal, is if you stop playing captain-save-a-hoe, and let different people like different things.

[Anonymous No.]

damn this thread is like 80% hidden for me and i only have like 5 words filtered

[Anonymous No.]

>>66967275
>HoloID
>success
They are only well known thanks to being set up before holoen
If you consult numbers you'll know they're barely scraping by

[Anonymous No.]

>>66966940
>this is not the case when they interact with males
You are such a shut-in it's incredible, they do the whole "self conscious around other" with everybody, just because you are too busy gooning to your oshi flirting with another male that doesn't mean she's not self-concious around him
>why female x male banter
No because it always devolves into what I typed, and that's normal, I'm not blaming the dude for doing that, it's the girl's fault for accepting the collab, and really just spitting in the face of her fans.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66963925
Let me break down the logic for you.
Most unicorns are AGP males. People mistake this for general 'transexualism' but there are key differences, the closest steeet term for AGP would be that they fetishize femaleness to the point of worship. True trannies change gender because they think they ARE the opposite gender, while AGP males know they are currently males but WANT TO be women. Many of them want to be a woman because they think that being a woman would provide them access to relationships with women. Female collabs and especially light yuribaiting such as 'tee tee' reinforce this belief - they likely chose to watch an all female vtubing corp such as hololive for the exact reason that it provides them access to as much of their fetishized fantasy of the 'femaleness experience' as possible. Rather than going full tranny because they know it wont work, many of them simply discard their identity as 'john doe, guy who goes to work' and pick up the mantle of "MikeHawk, the listener who sent an akasupa rainbow". As a male they cant pierce their invented barrier between the inferior male and the superiror female, but as a genderless thing they can at least become her parasocial simp and have her occasionally thank them in their truename (in this case mikehawk, as opposed to their deadname john doe).

Male collabs break this fantasy. As an AGP male, the unicorn has sacrificed his masculinity to get closer to his worshipped idol of femininity. The idea that she would willingly seek out, not another superior female, not member chat with him and his fellows, but to target a person who represents what he willingly discarded, is anathema to the entire existance of the AGP male. Its why the initial response to the 'pure girls' on their first male collab isnt logical anger but irrational shock, they initially cannot even compute the action. 'How'? Not 'how dare she' but 'how can she do this'. Surely this person's name on her weekly schedule was a clerical mistake, and simply informing her of the trip up in the next member chat will make her brain turn back on and make her collab with females again like she ought to. If that doesnt work, there is nothing left but to recognize that either their AGP delusion is wrong, or to take durastic action. They reconcile this by placing 'sluts' and 'whores' on their fantasy status tier below even garbage males, as traitors who despite being feminine females chose to stand against their status. They are the lowest of the low, a male is merely a mindless beast but the malecollab whores are one who willingly consorts with beasts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66963925
kys

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>>66963925
your shit logic doesn't work on me because I hate the forced yuri pandering too

[Anonymous No.]

>>66967619
>Most unicorns are AGP males.
You can say most weebs are either agp males or lesbian/bi women

[Anonymous No.]

>>66963925
You are sane anon, thats all there is to it

[Anonymous No.]

A majority of the reason people dislike male x female collabs is because the female chuuba tends to act different on stream when a guy is present. Not even flirty, they just preform so differently than with a regular female x female collab that it makes it non-enjoyable to watch. The only ones I can really say stay the same no matter who comes on their stream for a collab is Kobo, Ollie and Mori.. Then you have those like Matsuri who is too fucking much in a male collab.

[Anonymous No.]

>I'm coooming to nerissa and kiara having sex in Maldives
how is this not cuck behavior

[Anonymous No.]

>>66967069
Picrel but not related to this conversation, if you think about it, the designs kinda mirror eachother, but in an inverted way.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66966940
lmao it's the exact opposite you fucking troglodyte. Around the other girls they act natural, they dont have to try. A guy walks into the stream? They change their personality completely, get all giggly and flirty. Happens every fucking time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66967619
Most of these guys don't even realize that they have agp. Maybe that's for their best.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66967948
lesbians can't cuck because they have no cock

[Anonymous No.]

>>66967619
>>66967837
Sister tourist projection

[Anonymous No.]

>>66967948
Men don't feel emasculated by women having sex with other women, because men aren't women and women aren't men.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66967837
>most weebs
Most weebs watched and enjoyed swordart online. If you mean 'most 4chanposters' or perhaps specifically 'only the people who go on that thread in /a/ to discuss how amazing is the recent seasonal anime about elementary school girls talking in cute voices for 12 straight 22 minute episodes', then yes they are just as bad as the /vt/ holobox.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66967348
I’ve never shat on anyone simply for liking a different type of content
I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt and say you haven’t either
But fella, there’s more than one group of people who won’t shut up and let people like different things
I’ve seen plenty of them to know that

[Anonymous No.]

>>66967619
Wow, a logical post on /vt/?! Color me shocked.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66964614
In other words you are a cuck regardless. You'd literally let someone like iShowSpeed molest your oshi and you'll think it's "based" because he's got high views and huge subs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66963925
I don't think you want to understand, but obviously it would be lame if every girl became a second fiddle to male vtubers/fleshstreamers. Actually, that already happened to half the vtubers, so you can just watch go watch someone like the current/former Vshojos streaming with their boyfriends for your supposed banter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66967619
Wall of text simply to say: I am a massive cuck, and I googled "Why am I such a cuck?" and now I'm sharing my findings with the class. Keep sucking dicks faggot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66964614
This post has proved that Unicorns are the real cucks. Lmao.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66968105
>>66968143
Literal cuck behavior. It's pointless if they never loved you but each other.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66965836
Anon there's literally a swarm of anti posts on every platform screaming about how they hate Irys because she wouldn't collab with males. Fact is, the homobeggars are the real freaks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66968683
Note also how, in his anger, this poster mentally conflates cuckoldry with male holosexuality. Both are, to them, the lowest status a male could have - a male who would willingly reject woman. This poster is also AGP delusional.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66963925
>If that's cuckshit then female chubas collabing with females and lezzing it up is peak cuckshit too.
Every time someone tries to say malexfemale is the same as femalexfemale I immediately realize they're retarded.
>but double standards
Yes, it is a double standard. No, I don't care. No one does.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66967948
>sex
Nerissa attacking inebriated kiara counts as rape

[Anonymous No.]

>>66967619
>you have to prove your masculinity by supporting male streamers
no thanks, fag.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66968864
keep making up your retarded 'mental conditions' it's people like you that are the problem with the world these days. I bet you go around calling people 'cis' and saying 'xir' and using your emotional support anteater or whatever every time you go to walmart, all the while thinking you're so superior. When, in reality, you are the most schizo and delusional of all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66967619
Or you know the simple answer without your /wg/ headcanon

[Anonymous No.]

>>66969014
Ladies and gentlemen, this egg is cracking. You can do it, lass.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66968820
There's no such thing as Homobeggars. Stop throwing buzzwords. Only freaks complain like the Left when they don't get what they want.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66968905
>it's just not similar because...it's not okay?
Like or not, by your own logic you're getting cucked by dykes

[Anonymous No.]

>>66963925
I don't think about fucking them or the memes you shitposters come up, I just want to watch cute girls. So I'm not going to watch a male collab cause I'm not really interested and will say no I don't want them if you ask.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66968820
There’s shitflinging seethemonkies everywhere on both sides of this equation
Don’t pull this holier-than-thou shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>66968905
Now this is peak cope.

[Anonymous No.]

i'm hated by both unicorn and homobegger alike because my message is simply too based: if you think you're being 'cucked' by a vtuber then you literally have untreated schizophrenia and should kill yourself for the good of the species as soon as physically possible. that said, i will never watch a male collab in my life simply because every male vtuber i've seen is absolute fucking dogshit. japanese men in particular have the most repellent personalities imaginable.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66969095
kill yourself retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>66969097
>they're the same thing because I say they are, okay?
Your own logic is shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66969180
Based, real, and true

[Anonymous No.]

>>66969095
>There's no such thing as Homobeggars
I really wish I had that clip of Olga getting pissed off that people going out of stream and begging Luna to collab with him. cause he was fucking pissed

[Anonymous No.]

Sisters will tell you that everything in Vtubing is just "Yuri pandering" and no oshi is safe but also say that this is totally real and you should feel like a cuck, Just say you want your males to leech of the more popular girls already or that you have an oshi that gets called a homowhore and that hurts your feelings

[Anonymous No.]

>>66966940
You need to go outside to find out how human relationships works.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66963925
Other men are rivals and are to be murdered
Other women are part of the harem
Basic wildlife behavior 101

[Anonymous No.]

>>66969014
Ill tell you what; if you find me in a walmart with my emotional support anteater when I dont need him, I'll admit that I am more schizo and delusional than you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66969464
It's really strange that two EN boys that pushing for collabs left since they were griefting for popularity. Well Vesper might have just been crazy and wanted to stick it to people.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66969686
>muh harem
>lesbians don't exist
>murder people I don't like
this post is definitely made by a muzzie from Indonesia

[Anonymous No.]

>>66969781
It's actually most likely a Euro, a Yank, or a leaf.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66967619
The beauty of jewish psychology is that you can just twist and break it to fit into any mold that you want. It isn't science nor will it ever be science. You, Freud and, pedophiles like Blanchard will never be mind readers or even intelligent. No amount of sophistry will ever change that.

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>>66969781
That whole "burn" doesn't work when it's been established that indonesians are cucks, as evidenced by the success of whores like Kobo, sister.
Lesbians are only bi at most, no women would turn down Chad or Tyrone if they had a chance, not even the butchiest dyke.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66967619
Literally not a single thing you wrote makes sense.
t. AGP

[Anonymous No.]

>>66970178
Agps love yuri. They self insert as a female in a yuri coupling. That's a fact.
Meta attraction for males is really not that common.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66970158
>Lesbians are only bi at most, no women would turn down Chad or Tyrone if they had a chance, not even the butchiest dyke.
Porn addicted brain

[Anonymous No.]

>>66970426
>Meta attraction for males is really not that common.
Explain why most TSF hmanga have boy/girl pairings, or the AGP posters on /trash/ being massive cock sluts.
Trannies love yuri, AGPs don't.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66964160
> homosexuality is seen as normal in the civilized parts of the world
OY VEY

[Anonymous No.]

>>66963925
Can you stop using Bae for these shitty bait threads, switch to someone else like Ririka, it's getting boring at this point.

[Anonymous No.]

Its Sunk-cost fallacy, whether its financial or emotional.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66966013
name 30 of them who do male collab frequently

[Anonymous No.]

Here's my issue: I like whoever the girl vtuber is, and more often than not I do not like the guy vtuber in the collab.
Personally I thought something like Baelz and Vesper's boomer-zoomer stream was great, but he was one of like 2 Holostars I care(d) for.
I treat it just like a female only collab, if there's someone in the collab I don't like, then I don't watch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66964791
who the fuck wants to watch their oshi having a straight romance with another person on stream you dumb cuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>66963925
If you were/are a male vtuber you 100% would abuse your position to get close to the girls people like you are why they are annoying.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66972488
The sunk cost fallacy niggers are cucks like you that stay with them after being disrespected

[Anonymous No.]

>>66964614
Oh the labirynth of mental gymnastics kek

If you hate your own gender so much, why don't just kys

[Anonymous No.]

>>66963925
I want to watch cute anime girls, I don't want to watch men
sex havers and anyone who enjoys romance should stay away from otaku hobbies

[Anonymous No.]

>>66968098
Do you even leave your mother's basement bro? Those are the words of a person who never seen a man interact with a woman fr

Go and try talking to any girl you meet we'll see how flirty she will be towards your retarded ass

[Anonymous No.]

vagene = good
penus = bad if it’s not mine

send my Nobel prize to my wife super nenechi

[Anonymous No.]

>>66963925
I hate their white knights and shills who very often will go "even she does male collabs she is still the best" for example
stay in your lane and don't force this shit onto others

[Anonymous No.]

>>66972488
That post is retarded. The sole reason vtubers acquired this level of popularity and financial success is acting like they were an ideal anime girlfriend for the audience. No matter how much you cope, this is still gonna be true. They would have never reached this level without pandering to people who just want to have parasocial relationships. The whole industry has literally been built on that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66964507
>incels
Go the fuck back

[Anonymous No.]

>>66963925
>If that's cuckshit then female chubas collabing with females and lezzing it up is peak cuckshit too.
It's more like they're supporting gay ships. which is kind of ironic if they're calling other people troons. Unicorns are quite retarded after all

[Anonymous No.]

>>66974022
Why. So when you hear a woman without seeing how they look you just have a mental image of a vagina in your head?

What if a girl sounds like a male (aka Hiodoshi Ao) do you assume she has a penis?
You can't perceive people as only pussies and dicks

[Anonymous No.]

>>66964160
fag lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>66964614
>High-status men get to do what they want. If a high-status man wants to collab with vtubers, more power to him. I'd even call it based.
So.. uh you wanna backtrack on how stupid this is? Or do you wanna double down on how you're totally not a cuck? This is... Good lord...

[Anonymous No.]

>>66974502
Show me one statement of Pekora claiming her intent is to be her audience's girlfriend. One.

You are wrong and you know that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66974721
>women have the same dynamic and sort of interactions with men as they do with women
At least try to pretend for a bit you are not a fatherless mutt, too easy to tell

[Anonymous No.]

>is to respect their collab choices.
Do you Phase fucks even know how to be subtle?
Are you still mad about Lia and Rie and Flayon? You have better things to do like sending those two akasupas trying to control them telling them not to collab with males or you'll stop supporting them and cut yourself again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66975088
See? A prime example of a fatherless mutt. When you call them out on their retardation they have the need to reply. Works everytime.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66966512
then don't read my posts faggot :)

[Anonymous No.]

>>66963925
Sorry, still not watching Bae.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66975214
>no you
So true sis what are these hecking incels thinking not accepting cock? smash the patriarchy!

[Anonymous No.]

>>66963925
There's nothing wrong with it except for retards like you who either made this post to stir up shit or you genuinely care what some anonymous retards on a Mongolian basket weaving forum think about you or what you enjoy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66970896
>the AGP posters on /trash/ being massive cock sluts.
those are just fags in denial, anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>66965084
Japan doesn't care about homos and trannies either and they're pretty civilized.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66969088
well THAT's an incredibly retarded post. This entire hobby is about streamer/viewer interaction. It completely falls apart when chat isn't there. Just ask one of the girls how it goes if YT chat isn't working, they feel helpless.
Also, a massive part of its cash flow (superchats) is strictly 100% about interacting with your streamer directly. On other platforms that interaction is real time, it's only standard practice in some places to read SC's at the end out of necessity, because streams would come screeching to a halt with all of the interaction the girls would have to do with individual chatters.
Seriously, if this were true then these wouldn't be livestreams, they'd be VODs. Let's Plays would make a return. God this is a stupid post and I hate myself for getting worked enough about how obviously retarded it is that I wrote up this stupid fucking post in response. Take your (You) and die, asshole.

[Anonymous No.]

Why is it so hard to understand that men don't really like other men and we don't want to see them more than it's needed?

[Anonymous No.]

>>66963925
cut your nose first? it's too long.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66976151
>Kizuna Ai
>Kaguya Luna
>HimeHina
>Oda Nobuhime
do your reps newfag.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66976151
And funny thing, we just had Fauna do a Let's Play. It was a nice gesture from her, because otherwise there would be nothing from her for nearly a month, but it's a good example why they need the chat and interaction.

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>>66963925
it's like any entertainment genre. if you go to see a rockband and they pull out a banjo and start singing folk songs, most people won't like it. if you play a fighting game and they throw in random RTS stages, most people won't like it. if you go to a baseball game and they start kicking around a soccer ball instead, most people won't like it. and if you're a girls-only content vtuber and you start collabing with guys, most people won't like it. it's just a different genre and people don't want the genres they like being changed on them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66965836
But watching the girls get harassed is always entertaining, and I can't help but join the bandwagon. It's enjoyable, rewarding, and fulfilling. It's like something inside me has woken up.

[Anonymous No.]

It is just unpleasant to listen to male voices. If I wanted to do that, I'd be talking to my friends. Listening to a girl's laughter is actually nice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66963925
I think the meme, at least for EN, started with Holomyth when people were doxxing the VAs about who has or had boyfriends, etc etc. I'm almost positive any serious notion of this meme went away after Rushia's ordeal. At this point, it's just an excuse to talk shit about the streamer and other viewers.

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>>66977125
Exact opposite for me
Girl chuubas are usually squeaky and loud, especially the JPs
Makes it hard to listen whenever they start yelling and screaming, it’s unpleasant to my ears

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>>66977456
Why do you watch male vtubers instead of normal streamers? Or are you perhaps a sister?

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>>66977727
Male chuubas I watch are generally more in tune with what I enjoy than most fleshies
Chuuba scene is less poisoned by shitty clickbait meta than fleshy scene
I enjoy group streaming content more than solo content, which is a guarantee with chuubas as opposed to the loose “maybe this guy will show up sometimes” with fleshies
Ironically, the male chuubas I watch seem more genuine in personality to me than fleshies

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>>66969095
>There's no such thing as Homobeggars.
>There's no such thing as Homobeggars.
>There's no such thing as Homobeggars
https://streamable.com/yn7z9a

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>>66963925
>i'm a guy and i enjoy sitting at a safe distance and watching a girl have a good time with another guy with no chance to participate other than throwing money at them and cheering them on for being so good at making each other laugh
are you being serious?

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>>66978099
She was pretty based for that. Can't stand watching her because of the ugly model, though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66978248
>>i'm a guy and i enjoy sitting at a safe distance and watching a girl have a good time with another girl with no chance to participate other than throwing money at them and cheering them on for being so good at making each other laugh

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>>66977727
>>66978025
Oh, and also the music’s pretty good

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>>66978315
Yes? Why do you think CGDCT anime exists?

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>>66978025
Pretty sure more people would have the opposite opinion - vtubers can hide their identity behind an avatar, and since they play some kind of role they usually put on a fake voice too. Regular streamers show their face and often their daily life more. I can bet you wouldn't see that much complaining if anyone from EN was to collab with streamers like Critical, Vinny, NL or Josh Strife Hayes. Any of the no-face homos with flip accent and high chance to be a sexpest tho? No way.

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>>66978495
As we’ve learned from this site, anonymity can often bring out the most truthful in personalities
Showing your face doesn’t matter if it still feels like you’re bullshitting every reaction to yuk it up for the audience
>high chance to be a sexpest
No more than literally anyone else on the internet
Also I don’t watch the flips

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>>66963925
>Lord Aethelstan collabs with Nyanners
>End up together
>Mika and Mysta collab
>They say multiple times "VIRGIN INCELS COLLABS DON'T MEAN SEX, WE ARE COWORKERS"
>End up together
And there must be a thousand other examples. If the only references to male and female vtubers collaborating almost always end up with the women being groomed, then what do you want people to think? Male vtubers, ecelebs and VA that collab with females WANT TO FUCK THEM and the tournaments or events where they are looking for a girl to "enter a random team" are just them getting girls like a date center, and that is the final verdict

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>>66978811
>2 examples
>there must be a thousand other examples
then list them
and, while you’re at it, list all the ones that haven’t resulted in that

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>>66969095
Kiara replied more than 8 times to people with her position in front of collabs with holostarsEN, and people kept and kept bothering her. She made it clear from the first fucking day they were announced and many retards didn't stop their harassment after several months

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>>66978811
Considering that collaboration most likely mean that they have usually already talking in the background, it isn't really a surprise. Men collab with whoever they can, women collab with people they like. And if a person says they wouldn't ever try to get into a few e-girl pantsu in a similar position, he's lying.

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>>66963925
I can smell the curry coming off this post
here are the major issues. every single male eceleb, especially vtubers, who is trying to collab with a vtuber girl is actively trying to fuck her. that is why no one wants it, because those fags aren't entertaining and are actively sex pests and go out of their way to flirt. The reason people tend to choose vtubers over regular ethots is because the vtubers give off a vibe of being single, attainable and a virgin. If they are fucking around with guys on stream (and off) then that idea is lost.
Notice how no one gets mad at things like when the girls did interviews with guys or when Ina did an ad with one of the fags or even when people thought Gura actually spoke with matpat because none of those situations were ones that were flirty in nature.
Also lesbians aren't real. Like statistically they literally aren't real, the odds of a woman in the US identifying as an actual lesbian is crazy low. Only 1% of American adults are lesbians/13.4% of lgbts are lesbians. Trannies make up more than half that number and I'd assume a significant number of trannies are "lesbians". Meanwhile, among millennials and zoomers over 2/3rds of all lgbt are "bisexual women" and even then the girls aren't really bisexual, they are just doing it to get attention from guys. So the yuri shit isn't really seen as cucking when we know for a fact that outside of a few like Kiara and Fauna, the girls aren't even bi. IRyS is super straight (she hates trannies), Bae gets freaked out whenever IRyS does fake gay shit to her and Gura nearly pissed herself when Kiara threatened to make out with her during 2 different off collabs.
>>66964160
lul what?

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>>66979250
>(she hates trannies)
Proof?

[Anonymous No.]

Being a unicorn is inherently a cuck mindset.
You literally believe that your oshi is dating you. Thousands, if not millions, of other men have the same exact relationship with your oshi as you (minus the schizophrenic delusions), making you not just a cuck, but a turbocuck whose "gf" is "cheating" on you with millions of men.

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>>66979394
she tweeted on her roommate account that she still actively streams from pay per view and tweets shit she wants her fans to know, like she tweeted her nails after the hand streams were banned and tweeted her exact height after the promise 3d live.
Granted the shitpost is that she said she is super duper straight and the super straight = no trannies thing didn't happen until 2021.
She has said on stream she likes traps and twinks, but we both know how disgusting all trannies look
>>66979431
nah, my oshi knows who I am and hates me for writing rrats on /vt/. And yes. I know she knows the rrat because she referenced it on stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>66978025
Most male vtubers pander to women, because they can't compete with all the other male streamers. Watching a man with an anime boy avatar doesn't add anything for me, but you do you

[Anonymous No.]

>>66963925
If you ever feel threatened by a girl then you are a fag, simple as'

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>>66980017
Eh, the ones I watch rarely feel like they’re actively pandering to women, at least to me
They just feel like they’re being dudes

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>>66976125
Idk about that one chief
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8UMso-cJiA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGfFv1GwOCc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxTvnz4oovI

[Anonymous No.]

>>66963925
Women don't have a penis and therefore cannot cuck me anon, it's that simple, no matter what the Californians try to convince you of.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66964614
This is the gayest shit I've read entire month

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>>66963925
>Don't tell me the logic here is you are okay with females cucking you.
Yeah, I am. At least I can understand that because I also like girls, but if it's a guy I don't understand and it feels alienating because I don't understand.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66963925
Yes. You are 100% correct Bae. You're so right honey. Go collab with a bunch of males and see how that fucking works out for you sweety dearest.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66981507
>honey
>sweety
>dearest
like pottery >>66967619

[Anonymous No.]

are you upset cupcake?

[Anonymous No.]

>>66968408
>logical
seek help

[Anonymous No.]

>>66963925
I'm here to watch cute anime girls only. Not anime boys. Simple as.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66979250
>go out of their way to flirt.
If anything it's the girls who get excited and all flirty when talking with males

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>>66964160
>homosexuality is seen as normal in the civilized parts of the world.
No, it is not. TV and the internet is not real life. Faggots are fucking disgusting and we don't let them around kids in the real parts of America. There's a reason LGBPedos get dragged out into the desert and it is not bigotry. It's because those diseased (60% hiv/aids it's a fact look it up) pedophiles aren't subtle at all.
You want to read books to people? Try a homeless shelter or a veterans home. But no, they go after the kids. Well guess what, the fake media can't protect your predator ass at all times. We've got entire networks for exposing crimes of these groomers.
Remember when they were talking about monkey pox? Then the only people catching it were gays and pedos and the kids and animals they kept in their homes, it vanished from the media overnight. That's how hard the fake media works to keep the truth from you idiots, but in the rest of the country it's common knowledge what kind of monsters these groomer freaks are. Go ahead with the ban janie faggots, I'm resetting my router right now.

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>>66963925
>Bae
The runt
>Ollie
The runt

You can cite almost any homo collab whore and they're on the lower end, that's just a fact, Suisei is the exception that shows the rule, holofags don't like that no matter how many say otherwise

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>>66963925
Problem with male collabs is that, faggots here are incels and they seethe at every male that is more successful than they are. They're miserable sacks of shit and want everyone else to be miserable just like them. "If I can't have it my way then nobody else should" type of people. This place is nothing but a honeypot for mentally ill schizos.

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>>66963925
I won't watch your homos, keep begging and raiding retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>66986480
Insane projection from a shipperfag.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66964614
What color is your Bugatti?

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>>66986480
>This place
Holy shit, it's all /vt/ fault that the homos are 2-3views and nobody watches them!
World hungry is /vt/ fault too btw

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>>66986774
Anon, why do you care how many viewers someone else collabs with has? Obviously, the talents know how popular the other talents are.

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There's nothing wrong with them. Unless they make explicit comments aimed at each other, I've never cared. It only becomes a bit weird when too many people have the compulsive urge to share their strangely explicit netorare-poisoned inner voice though, which seems to have become more and more popular. People /here/ groom each other into becoming more and more mentally ill.

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>>66987150
>People /here/ groom each other into becoming more and more mentally ill.
This site is a heavily moderated padded room catered to schizophrenics and children.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66966599
Explains a lot.

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>>66987046
>Males more successful than they're
Unless you're a burger flip there's no way a 2view to low 3view is more successful than you

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>there are unironic subhumans on this board going on a crusade because they want the third wheel experience where they watch their oshi get hit on by the most obnoxious and pathetic beta dudes on this planet
no amount of mental gymnastics will change the fact that the only people who want this shit are actual unironic cucks and sisters.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66987242
Stars haven’t been 2view for years
Got a handful at low 4view, most of the rest high-mid 3view

[Anonymous No.]

>>66987348
Ghost homo(idk his name)don't look!

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>>66963925
>If that's cuckshit then female chubas collabing with females and lezzing it up is peak cuckshit too.
Do you even understand what the word "cuckold" means? It comes from the cuckoo, who places their eggs among other birds and makes them raise and take care of it. It's peak parasitic behavior. Human men can do that too by making a taken woman pregnant and having her clueless partner raise the kid. (Before DNA tests there was no way to tell for sure.) Our instincts have evolved along those lines, which is why men are usually very skeptical of other men flirting or interacting intimately with the woman they love.
You know who we're not evolved to care about at all? Other women, because there's 0% chance that they'll have a kid and pass it off as yours.

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>>66987533
Yeah, not 2view

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>>66968519
>. Low-status men is a category that encompasses all kinds of ecelebs, male vtubers, and other men that have achieved minor fame despite having no real feats to show for it.
iShowSpeed is an eceleb you moron

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>>66980169
That's because you're a closeted gay man.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66987751
Nah

[Anonymous No.]

don’t u see OP 1 innocent male collab is all it takes then suddenly a month later they’re having sex live on stream

no I am not schizophrenic I will not take the pills

[Anonymous No.]

>>66973316
I do. Faggots of all kinds deserve the roof.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66987818
I unironically believe that if I could talk to them directly I could gaslight and fuck pretty much any of the EN girls.

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>>66964614
>I want to see the girl I like be fucked by other men that I respect
The redpill movement has always had an air of homoerotism, but it is still impressive how you arrived to an unironic cuck fetish from it.

[Anonymous No.]

I used to wonder about this same question OP. Why hate male collabs? 99% of the time the male isn’t even tryin to fuck your oshi anyway so what’s the big deal right?

Then my oshi decided to collab with the same faggot 3 times in less than a week and I can safely say that that was the worst week of vtubing since I got into this shit in 2018. Words cannot describe to you how much I despise that fucking faggot to this very day.

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>>66988573
That's always the thing huh. No one is an unicorn until you're sitting there forced to watch some faggy asian twink try to show off in front of your oshi while he regurgitates stale ironic weeb memes.

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>>66988573
This anon has kinda grasped the truth. Viewers want to engage with their favorite vtuber, they like her personality, her character, her talents, whatever, and they do their best to support her for years while receiving pretty much nothing in return besides some words they respond to your red superchat. And that is fine, the vast majority of audience is very happy with that, because that's all they can expect. And then some fag appears and just plays/talks with her all the time, whenever he wants. It's impossible to not feel bad, even if you don't actually have any romantic interest or in theory wouldn't mind her to collab with men or even get into a relationship. You just feel left out. And this is true about everyone. Even the wildest homo supporter. The problem isn't that they might fuck (they probably do it behind the scenes anyway), the problem isn't that the viewer won't fuck (they know that they never will anyway), the problem is the feeling of your support being entirely in vain because you're just a name in the sea of other names, and once a completely random figure who's done literally nothing but being in the right place and the right time gets publicly elevated, you're inevitably gonna feel bad. And it is completely normal. If someone says it isn't, they don't get the vtuber industry as a whole. Also intergender collabs are usually very awkward either for the streamers or for the viewers because the banter between them isn't like between people of the same gender. It's either too mild and boring due to walking on eggshells, or feels outright flirty thanks to the setting, which is just simply unpleasant to watch.

[Anonymous No.]

Why is it called cucking, when that would imply you'd have anything to do with the vtuber and she was also with someone else? She doesn't even know you, is every single woman in the world also cucking you for dating men other than you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>66986336
Kronii is doing worse than Bae nowadays, but still, another homocollaber, even if she got burned on that and just hates her job now.

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>>66963925

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>>66989032
this is talking about literally all vtubers she’s familiar with, not just male ones

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>>66963925
The most basic contradiction everyone should have pointed is that vtubers use fake flirty voices to lure viewers and pose like desirable women for money. Same stupid voice is used in collabs which is not suited for real banter. In conclusion there’s no proper male x female banter, just two faceless nobodies on the internet using their “job” site as a dating app.
Women demanding cash to date others is irrational, same as dudes spending to watch girls date other dudes.

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>>66963925
My first stance was that it was ok.
But after the homos fucking shitfest I rejected collabs out of spite.
Finally few days ago my eyes have been opened and I have accepted that most if not all the girls are fucking or with a bf offline, I don't care about the human behind the avatar anymore, so if they are doing gfe even in the slightest I will not tolerate any online interaction because that was the original deal with emotional prostitution and if they aren't gfe they have to be REALLY good at whatever the fuck they are doing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66963925
go back and kys

[Anonymous No.]

>>66989100
Ok? The point still stands that male collabs often lead to dating or at least an attempt

[Anonymous No.]

>>66963925
> woman and man = gay
> woman and woman = good (+sex)
It's pretty simple if you think about it

[Anonymous No.]

>>66988862
It's about natural instincts you idiot. Same reason why people (men or women) don't like playing third wheel on a date. "Cucking" is just a meme word, the point is that it's not just uninteresting but actively repelling for a large part of the audience.
Ask yourself, would you like to watch your crush make out with another dude? You're not in an actual relationship, so it's totally fine right?
Keep believing in the incel boogieman. You're too dumb to understand what's really going on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66989487
Based conclusion. I agree.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66991409
The point was that many collabs led to that weird assumption, regardless of if they were male collabs or female collabs

[Anonymous No.]

>>66992000
If you think collabs are comparable to dating, fucking, or making out, you're literally schizophrenic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66967619
Hum this sound like troon propaganda, why i wonder, how if you think about it it's just "of you are straight you are actually closer to troon that you think". Yep once again the troon are trying to manipulate people into fucking them because they just can't get the dick they want so i'll say it : YWNBAW

[Anonymous No.]

I honestly don't give a shit about JP males, but I wish for absolute failure upon EN homos because of how dogshit they and their audience are and because of how much they massively disappointed my expectations. Any of the girls that give Tempiss, tempoop, tempagpag or nijifagji any quarter of attention and spotlight lose my respect.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66993584
The post says the opposite of the entirety of whatever the fuck you hallucinated, retard-kun.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66963925
It's not sex if there's no penis involved. This feminist nonsense that lesbianism is real is an absolute cope and only cucks believe it. Getting upset over lesbian sex is like getting upset over masturbation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66967619
what the fuck...this is explains everything..

[Anonymous No.]

>>66992568
Mixed collabs often have some level of flirting. I personally wouldn't like to watch my crush having fun or flirting with other men for my entertainment

[Anonymous No.]

>>66963925
Open a history book faggot. We come from kings and emperors with Harems of women and concubines. They fucked each other until it was time for the king to fuck them.

Woman on woman can’t cuck you. Also some places in the world had Eunochs and women only in their court(mainly china) so the king couldn’t get cucked.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66997879
there can only be one king though. the historical comparison doesn't make sense when you are just another stranger in a sea of chatters, unless you are trying to say you are like the eunuchs and are paying for the condom fund of the actual king (her irl BF)

[Anonymous No.]

>>66997879
we might come from kings but we are the concubines

[Anonymous No.]

>>66997827
I agree and even if she isn't my crush it's uncomfortable to watch other people flirt.

[Anonymous No.]

Why is this thread still going. It's not even a discussion just people calling each other names.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66963925
A female can't cuck you because females can't get females pregnant, dummy

[Anonymous No.]

>>66963925
>I honestly don't understand what's wrong with male collabs
That's because you're a cuck
>respect their collab choices.
Nah

[Anonymous No.]

wow this thread sure is cringe
anyways, post chuubas lezzing out

[Anonymous No.]

>>66967619
this post sure pissed them off lmao

[Anonymous No.]

We are hitting levels of cuckoldry that shouldn't even be possible. This is why all your Asian women are being stolen by white men sissy faggots.

[Anonymous No.]

There actually isn't. People here just wanted to be simps for egirls but basedboys got there before they did. People who actually watch vtubers just want their oshi to be happy - it's just that autistic screeching is unbearably loud.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66963925
My perspective is a bit unique but I see it as a promise of commitment to stay dedicated to their fans. The whole avoiding males completely thing is totally unheard of in streaming and objectively an autistic rule. No other streamers do anything remotely similar and doing collabs is a good way to help content creators grow so it can be good for their careers as well.
I will never know my oshi IRL and I will never talk with her or play games with her like these other guys. And these collabs often serve as an unpleasant reminder of that.
My oshi doesn't have to give a shit about any of that or my feelings, they're irrelevant to her. But she still decides to jump through these autistic hoops that undoubtedly make the job more difficult just because it makes me and and people like me feel better.

[Anonymous No.]

A woman could be blowing out your oshi's asshole 5 times a day with a strapon and making fun of your pathetic unicorn ass repeatedly and that's not a problem at all?
However the moment you whiff the tiniest smell of cock you go insane even if they literally just talk on twitter once or something
I genuinely don't get it

[Anonymous No.]

>>66967619
>homobeggar trying to deflect from the fact that a staggering number of homobeggars are literal trannies
Many such cases

[Anonymous No.]

I have never seen a single "homobeggar" on 4chan, only a swarm of screeching retards blaming everything on them
if you ever ask them to point out homobeggars they have to link stuff from other websites

[Anonymous No.]

>>66999734
Hi, homobeggar.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66999812
hi horsefucker

[Anonymous No.]

>>66999840
Got any more schizophrenic delusions you need to get out of your system or is that all for today?

[Anonymous No.]

>>66999879
yes I'm delusional because I accused you of something you aren't

[Anonymous No.]

>>66999931
Correct. Now take your meds, little bro.

[Anonymous No.]

RUN OUT OF ARGUMENTS?
DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY TO DEFEND YOUR POSITION?
CALL THEM A HOMOBEGGAR KEK
IT'S THAT EASY

[Anonymous No.]

>>66963925
What's wrong with male collabs is that I hate male vtubers and don't want to see them when I'm trying to watch cute anime girls play video games

[Anonymous No.]

>>66963925
They're unironically boring as fucking shit

fuck off OP. I don't care how many people say that they "liked" the kobo offcollab, its garbage.

[Anonymous No.]

>>67000313
Then don't watch them? I don't have any interest in male vtubers either, but their existence doesn't bother me the way it seems to everyone here. I just ignore them and watch the other content. It's not like Bae is going on and on about male vtubers outside of her occasional collabs with them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>67000709
>everyone
the loud minority

[Anonymous No.]

>>67000709
>Then don't watch them?
Lol, lmao tell that to lazusydia fans and they will explain to you how "well" it worked for them and nijien in general
>>67000746
>the loud minority
outpases homosupporters total amount

>236 posts, 108 ips

[Anonymous No.]

>>67001019
>outpases
what

[Anonymous No.]

Without bringing up relationships or flirting or cucking or gender evopsych or any of that stuff, most of the western audience were introduced to vtubers as these exaggerated cute girl character archetypes. Korone the cute gamer dog or Pekora the war criminal rabbit. The streamers play up certain parts of their personalities by overreacting to things or using a certain voice and omit other parts like nagging or vulgarity or constantly talking about relationships that woman normally do in order to deliver a certain kind of experience.

In this realm of anime archetypes there is no room for dudes (look at NNB where the only male character is the mute brother). In a collab you have to banter with the other guy to make it entertaining, but if a female vtuber does this she either has to step down from the pedestal and become a regular girl; or if she tries to keep up her character than all of her interactions now seem sexually charged, as their characters collapse into the next available archetype set: the romcom. Either way there is a discrepancy between the character she plays and the way she has to act in the collab.

Bae and Mori, the most 'bruh' girls of their gen, could mostly get away with it. Kronii had cultivated this character that she was this suave sexy doomer girl that needed saving (maybe this was delusion from her audience) so when the collabs came and she was laughing her ass off there was a massive whiplash from her gachis.

I think only a small minority of Hololive watchers are guys who would anti the girls just for talking to a guy; doing so would require a level of calculated cruelty that most fans don't want to imagine themselves having. However that doesn't mean that they like the collabs either since it is always different content than what they have grown to expect. This was why they didn't take to the homos.

[Anonymous No.]

>>67001206
This post is way too reasonable, you're going to get called cuck, unicorn, incel, anti etc.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66964120
fpbp

[Anonymous No.]

>>67000709
>Then don't watch them
That's not an option if you watch niji and get surprise offcollab buttsex

[Anonymous No.]

>>67001206
>I think only a small minority of Hololive watchers are guys who would anti the girls just for talking to a guy
This is true. But a much larger number of Hololive watchers are willing to silently drop a Holo and walk away if she talks to a guy.

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>>66963925
You're either a woman incapable of empathy, a grooming predator that wants to be a vtuber in order to get closer to women, or a normalfag that doesn't love your oshi.
Why would anyone spend their time or money on a woman who ignores you while getting closer to another guy? In front of you, no less.
It's not like you will ever be added to her discord, get to play games with her, or talk with her off-stream, so why would you want to watch as the guy that gets to do those things with the girl you like has more fun with her than she does with you?
A woman's loyal fans watch all her streams and spend years of their lives and countless dollars supporting her and then she tells them she will never be their friend, she will never care about them, and that they are fans and nothing more. Meanwhile, she collabs once with a male streamer and she instantly calls him her friend and adds him to all her socials.

Your celebrity worship culture is the most cucked thing in existence. Only the most pathetic and demented people imaginable become obsessed with and live vicariously through the relationships of other people. You might be a normalfag and disagree with all this, but most people are watching vtubers (and streamers in general) because they're lonely and this industry would be dead if all their fans had girlfriends.

[Anonymous No.]

>>67000709
>Then don't watch them?
That's like saying "just don't treat cancer". Intergender collabs have to be discouraged and rigorously gatekept so they don't spread out of control. Holo EN was terrifyingly close to becoming Niji EN and the only thing that stopped it was viewer backlash.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66963925
>22 ips
>200 plus posts
Unicorns are actually a pretty small group, but they have more time to devote to 4chan. People should realistically do what they want and some people will skip male collabs but come around for no male content, or ignore a girl all together and not care. Though completely ignoring one is rare outside of 4chan. JP doesn't have the male collab harassment issue and they tend to do fine as long as they are good entetainers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>67004221
113 IPs. You mixed it up with images kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>66964614
A woman's claws scratched this post.
No man thinks in terms of "low-value" or "high-value" men. Those are literally femcel terms used on sites like crystal cafe.
And no, no guy is going to be okay with some celebrity or rich investor fucking their girl just because he's famous. What the fuck is wrong with you?

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If she's a dyke you can always rape but if she's straight and had a boyfriend, you'll have to deal with used goods which is never good.

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>>66967619
>if you aren't a cuck, you're a tranny
You seem like a misanthropic woman so let me put this in simple terms: men are territorial.
Most males of every species of animal are. You won't ever be able to change this, no matter how much social engineering you attempt. It's hard-wired into people's DNA. Unless a guy is suffering from crippling mental illness, he's never going to want to watch another guy move in on the girl he likes. If the men you've dated in your life aren't possessive, then that means they don't care about you and are almost certainly hitting up other women.

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I just wanted to watch cute girls hanging out and being friends. Then it all goes to shit as soon as they start acting like dykes just because management told them to since it attracts yurishitters who will happily pay for more. It sounds so fake and forced and ruins what could have been genuine moments of friendship between them.
>"b-but they aren't pretending! they really are lesbians!"
Don't kid yourselves. This whole thread/board is enough proof that acting like dykes will get female chubaas sheer numbers from an audience who is gullible enough to believe such obvious bullshit. Only the most delusional will deny this.

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>>66963925
I don't give a fuck about you anti yuri schizos/shipfags and your desperate need to have a male to self insert as, as far as I am concerned that is just as mentally ill as expecting all the girls to be pure but has the added downside of ruining the type of content I and many others started watching holo for which is cute girls. "unicorns" whatever tortured definition you use for them and whether they are larping or not are natural allies to anyone who enjoys hololive, people who want to ship and self insert which are a staggering number of homobeggars are pure cancer that need to continue to be gatekept.

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>>67005000
Dude you're not dating vtubers

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The AIDS homobeggar is desperate for dick in the picture because:
- he's an anti of a particular girl and wants to see her crash and burn
- he's anti-vtubers as a whole (could be a communist or conservacuck more or less same shit) so he wants to see them all burn out and barely get by like the flesh whores on twitch in order to ruin the whole hobby entirely

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Why are collabs where they read chat so rare.

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>>67006011
Straight girl is simply not a real thing. No I get it, but they just aren't real.

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>>67011637
>"my oshi doesn't want a boyfriend or kids! see? she said so herself!"
kek.

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>>67010817
Missed the point he was making, regardless of how illogical it is when applied to one sided online relationships the monkey brain is going to feel what it's going to feel and so to the majority of male viewers who have feelings for their oshi (large majority in this niche not only comprised of unicorns) this kind of content is going to be unpalatable at best.

Blame the audience for chuubas, blame the chuubas who court this type of emotionally attached audience, you don't have to like it but it's the reality in this hobby. Friend simulators on twitch are not much better if you really step back and look at it, people get possessive and act like they know them in those instances too, it's just not bundled up in romantic feelings and more mainstream so people don't mock it as much.

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>>67011637
Imagine thinking you're this unfuckable and living life to make it so

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>>67014330
>friend simulators
Most vtubers are like that though, and male collabs are fine for their audience.

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>>67015377
Friends are the worse when people from another sex is nearby, be gf or friend in the end you turn into the third wheel

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>>67015377
I disagree, even outside of holo I think a whole lot of chuubas are a step above friend simulators and directly appealing to lonely men hoping they form an emotional attachment. There are some that fit the friend simulator bill sure but it's by no means the majority.

But sure, outside of holo in the twitch indie circle or nijiEN male collabs regardless of how some people undoubtedly feel about them are mostly normalized and accepted, so I don't get why people like the OP feel the need to broadcast how much he wants the one place you can go for a different type of content to change because
>male x female banter is more entertaining
or
>business yuri BAD

There are so many options for his taste, but he wants to "educate" the viewers of the company that got popular specifically NOT doing that (sankisei onwards) as to how wrong they are instead. It's tiresome and just plain wrong as holos popularity speaks for itself.

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>>66963925
I don't like collabs in general unless the two people have good synergy together that's been established already. That said, for that very reason a good male collab will absolutely ruin unikeks so of course they will be against it. A male collab with no synergy is pointless and a male collab with good synergy will mindbreak them.

As far as Cover is concerned, HoloStars only stands to lose from collabing with the girls (unless they're ID, I guess?) since even they have female unicorns. It's just kind of a bad idea all around.

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>>67004221
>JP
The only difference is that on the JP side, they mostly keep their opinions to anonymous keijiban.
5ch is a lot more normalfag than /here/, and not in a good way, so you'll have people mock Unicorns more openly, but at the end of the day, they all know how this stuff works
If you want gachikoi, you'll generally avoid male collabs. You will lose donations and fans (especially gachikoi) if you go from not doing collabs with men to doing them. Antis will "encourage" those types of girls to do male collabs because they want to see them fail (you can tell they're antis because they'll be upset whenever something good happens to the girls they dislike)
That's really it. You can't tell a gachikoi "just ignore the shit streams" because it's about more than just "the stream", it's their entire relationship/interaction with their oshi that's important, and they're not going to stay around if they feel like they can't support their oshi.

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>>66979431
>You literally believe that your oshi is dating you
You're mixing up Unicorn and gachikoi. Although even then, most gachikoi don't believe themselves to be in an actual relationship with their oshi unless said girl states explicitly that it's a relationship
>cuck
Chat is a singular entity, which is why most Vtubers courting gachikoi will make sure to avoid favourtism.