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Reminder that the influx of anti-unicorn threads come from tourists sent here by depressed doxxagi

>> No.67154532

>useless Jannie

>> No.67154615

Nobody likes unicorns except other unicorns

>> No.67154636

>>67154412
unicorns are a joke

>> No.67154709
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>>67154615
Unicorns won, sister. Seethe for eternity.

>> No.67154815

you have always been hated here

>> No.67154865

>>67154615
>>67154636
femcels like you guys are the real joke.

>> No.67154941

>>67154815
By a bunch of nijifaggots, aka no one worth giving a shit about

>> No.67155015

>>67154636
Not as big of a joke as holostars’ viewership

>> No.67155032

>>67154412
That might've been the fuel, but it's being done by some discord server as a meme. Most of the unicorn and anti unicorn posts are made by them.

>> No.67155048

>>67154709
>>67154865
Where's the lie tho. You're not liked by any other type of fan and certainly not by the talents.

>> No.67155068

>>67154412
>Problem instantly solves itself by rangebanning SEA
Why are we against this idea again?

>> No.67155088

>>67154412
https://files.catbox.moe/l5naoq.mp4

>> No.67155100

>>67155048
>The talents hate unicorns
>source: it was revealed to me in my schizophrenic delusions

>> No.67155112

>>67154412
I hate unikeks with a seething passion, but this SEAmonkey is an immesurably bigger faggot. Fuck him

>> No.67155190

tl;dr on the video? Not watching doxseagi

>> No.67155410

Is there any more pathetic existence in the world than people who base their whole life around girls they can't even understand, so they have no choice but to watch ESL N3 clippers all the time while still claiming to be a superfan...

>> No.67155821

>>67155190
Same energy as that faggot from dexerto claiming that corpos are irrelevant without them (vtuber """"journalists""""") writing drama about vtubers

>> No.67155900
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67155900

>>67154615
Pekora is a self describe unicorn and she's the most loved person in the world

>> No.67155970

>>67155900
Reminder Vtubers that describe themselves as unicorns or understanding unicorns, inevitably collab with men

>> No.67155990

>>67155048
>the talents hate unicorns
>still panders to them
>EN branch has become largely unicorn friendly
Sister...

>> No.67156056
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>>67154412
reminder that anti unicorn schizos are brown colored

>> No.67156066

>>67155970
such as?

>> No.67156070

>>67154615
Nobody likes trannies except other trannies and people deathly afraid of losing their public support in tranny infested anime/vtuber circles.
No one likes you for real, they just barely tolerate you because you hold people hostage.

>> No.67156077

>>67155990
>EN branch has become largely unicorn friendly
That's not because they don't hate unicorns, that's because they love money.
Which is fine. Them having to compromise is also fine. It's a job. Most job work in a way that if you do the shittier part you get paid more.

>> No.67156273

>>67155088
This guy HAS to be larping, right? Who the fuck gets this invested over a meaningless award?

>> No.67156277

>>67156070
now kiss, fags

>> No.67156296

>>67149343

>> No.67156320

>>67154615
Yes,and?

>> No.67156336
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>>67154412
Unicorns don't buy memberships or merch

Unicorns dont watch streams

Unicorns dont attend events

Unicorns are faggots

>> No.67156392

>>67156336
Smells like projection

>> No.67156422

>>67156056
Is this image you?

>> No.67156478

>>67155088
KWAB

>> No.67156484

>>67156336
False

>> No.67156489
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67156489

I despise unicorns because they spam their inane faggotry here
literally the most boring spam ever conceived and absolutely contrary to anything this board's culture even resembled before the flood of drama addicted schizos

>> No.67156534

>>67156336
Never thought I’d encounter Retard Prime so casually, but hello.

>> No.67156544

>>67156489
Newfag

>> No.67156583

>>67155088
I'm thankful I will never be as pathetic as this guy

>> No.67156622

Fuck all that shit: TOTAL UNICORN DEATH.

>> No.67156626

>>67156273
Yes

>> No.67156633

>>67156489
>10+ ebin anti unicorn discord raid threads in the past 2 days
>but unicorns spam
Stop, at least own your faggotry.

>> No.67156692

>>67155068
We aren't, but the mods/jannies aren't going to rangeban themselves.

>> No.67156843

>>67155900
Pekora loves Hikakin's dick

>> No.67157030

imagine if women could appreciate their male vtubers without needing female accessories present to make them appear desirable
i'll take unicorns over collabbeggars

>> No.67157171

>>67156077
This is a textbook schizo rrat, literally coming up with a narrative because you think it seems true, and not because of any evidence

>> No.67157230

>>67157171
How is doing a job for money a schizo idea?

>> No.67157244

>>67156336
Lmao, you know that most homobeggars on twitter just assume every EN girl has collabed woth stars right? I’ve had conversations with them before where I bring up the fact that most EN girls don’t collab with them and they are always caught off guard by this fact (because they don’t watch streams)

>> No.67157249

>>67157030
Actually, the women who actually watch holostars aren't beggars, at least JP holostars, the ones who watch them are yumes and fujos. The beggars don't actually watch the homos nor will they ever, they just want to destroy the hobby.

>> No.67157304

>>67157230
The schizo part is that you assume they hate unicorns… with no evidence whatsoever

>> No.67157311

>>67157249
The beggars aren't homostar fans, the beggars are just random retards trying the own the evil unicorns (replace them with chuds and you'll find the exact same kind of people doing it on twitter)

>> No.67157378

>>67157249
Sort of unrelated, but it’s always hilarious to me when homobeggars shit on unicorns for being parasocial, even though parasocialism is the only thing that makes holostars viable as a business. 80 percent of their superchats come from the same dozen parasocial fans

>> No.67157457

>>67157304
You're wrong, anon, what I said is that them not hating unicorns is not the reason they became unicorn friendly, the reason is that it's simply a better decision financially and regarding their career. My post didn't imply they hate unicorns. I'm sure some do, while others don't.

>> No.67157517

>>67157304
You think it's schizo to assume that they hate a section of their fans who will chimp out if they were to talk to a male?

>> No.67157545
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>>67156633
yes you still shit up more threads, every single day

>> No.67157567

>>67157517
Yes.

>> No.67157723

>>67157517
The fact of the matter is that it's insanely easy to avoid doing so. If anything, arranging collabs with men is easier to do than avoiding them
It's not an exact match, but on average, Unicorns tend to be more likely to be gachikoi than non-Unicorns. Even without getting into the money side of things, a lot of these girls like and actually appreciate gachikoi

>> No.67157777

>>67156633
Don't know about recently, but overall since Tempus, it's been 10 troonicorn threads for every 1 homobeggar thread. It's not even close. Anon is right and I'm tired of you guys whining and pushing drama narratives. I'd barely know the males existed if you fags would ever shut the fuck up about them.

>> No.67157808

>>67157723
it's also incredibly easy not to be a deranged schizo on here or at your oshi

>> No.67157820

>>67155100
>gets unreasonably upset at even the slightest perceived transgression
>toe a specific line or lose these extremely volatile viewers, possibly risk harassment from them
If you were a streamer, would you like having fans like this?

>> No.67157864

>>67155088
JUST

>> No.67157898

>>67157820
>If you were a streamer, would you like having fans like this?
Better, than having no fans, so yes. I can just lie and they'll be happy.

>> No.67157914

>>67157820
>the slightest perceived transgression
>toe a specific line
Anon it's literally just not collabing with males, it's that simple.

>> No.67157955

>>67157820
Why do you retards act like not collabing with men is some impossible, herculean task? It really is not that hard, just don’t do that and no one will care

>> No.67157991

>>67154709
FWMC are slowly moving themselves away from the unicorn audience. Give it half a year or so and you'll notice the more overt changes. They don't want to deal with your kind either.

>> No.67158045

>>67157955
Sisters are whores who have immense cock lust and would become a town bicycle if they ever became a vtuber, obviously they try to project their own thoughts and behaviors unto good girls and other vtubers so they can justify themselves and their behaviors.

>> No.67158050

>>67157777
Unicorns won so naturally unicorn bragging will never stop. You should probably just leave the board.

>> No.67158057

>>67157991
Source: my ass
They literally did a VN parody where they pretended to date the viewer for christmas… you consider that moving away from the unicorn audience?

>> No.67158109

>>67157955
It's just a retarded line that they shouldn't be forced to toe to avoid harassment. Let them collab or not collab with whoever the fuck they want. And stop shitting up the catalog and threads.

>> No.67158121

>>67157545
>>67157777
I'm not even a unicorn though, Bae is literally my oshi. I was just pointing out that in the past few days threads like this have popped up en masse, turning the board even worse than it usually is. I assume some sort of falseflag discord raid going on and retards keep repeating the exact same arguments over and over again. Spamming happens on both sides, but this time, I don't see unicorns instigating much, or if they seemingly do, it smells like falseflag.

>> No.67158132

>>67157991
>FWMC are slowly moving themselves away from the unicorn audience
Anon if you want to lie at least do it well. Hell, the one chuuba in Advent you may have had a slight chance with, Shiori, has become one of the most unicorn and gachikoi friendly chuubas in Hololive as a whole.

>> No.67158133

>>67155088
I mean, he's a nousagi after all
>>67156478
what does that mean ?
>>67156583
it's regular vt fan stuff

>> No.67158140

>>67158057
Mori did dating streams around the time she was going on Trash Taste.

>> No.67158156

>>67158057
They've got a much much bigger audience now and are adapting themselves to the larger scene. It's best you look at the reality of the situation here so you don't get hurt.

>> No.67158211

>>67158156
Anon they where less unicorn friendly in their past lives with an even smaller audience, face it you've lost and can't lie yourself into making it seem like you won

>> No.67158224

>>67158140
She was also retarded and didn’t understand people would be against that. Advent on the other hand has full context for what their community expects and how their actions will be perceived

>> No.67158286

>>67158211
Whatever you have to tell yourself to cope man

>> No.67158294

>>67157955
Dicks live rent free in their head and know they're freaks for it so try to cope by making everyone elsebhe same so they seem normal too in comparison, typical groomer abuser shitm

>> No.67158430

I think unicorns should be regularly reminded that literally the only Japanese corporation that has this autism over collabing with men is Hololive and for everyone else unicorns are a recurring joke to point and laugh at. Some EN agencies like Kawaii have gotten the wrong idea and copied the Hololive pandering model but in Japan it really is just Hololive.

>> No.67158434

>>67158286
>n-n-n-no!! y-you're t-the o-o-one th-that's co-coping!! N-Not me!!!!

>> No.67158441

>>67157820
>be a vtuber
>all I have to do not talk about my sex life and not collab with the opposite sex and unicorns will give me money and everything will be fine
>proceed to not talk about my sex life and not collab with the opposite sex
>unicorns give me money and everything is fine
If I were a streamer I'd fucking love having fans like that. They're loyal as fuck and so easy to please it's ridiculous.

>> No.67158497

>>67158430
>the only Japanese corporation that has this autism over collabing with men is Hololive
Yeah, that's why they're the only Japanese Vtubing company that matters.

>> No.67158508

>>67158434
What would I have to cope with? I'm not emotionally invested like you are. Time will prove me right in the end regardless and I won't even care when it does.

>> No.67158509

>>67158430
> that has this autism over collabing with men is Hololive a
Hololive productions LITERALLY has a male branch that employs penis havers

>> No.67158535

>>67157991
>FWMC are slowly moving themselves away from the unicorn audience
>source: I'm making it up
Bau bau, motherfucker

>> No.67158540

>>67156056
Does that make you a cuck?

>> No.67158562

>>67158109
>It's just a retarded line that they shouldn't be forced to toe to avoid harassment. Let them collab or not collab with whoever the fuck they want.
anon, no one is saying they should be jailed for it. it's just that they spend less money and watchtime on them if they do it. it's that simple.

>> No.67158564

>>67158430
>literally the only Japanese corporation that has this autism over collabing with men is the biggest one that's practically neutered and destroyed every single competition in every possible field
Seems like a successful strategy to me

>> No.67158574

>>67157914
>>67157955
No, it's not really a "difficult" thing to do.
It's just retarded to put that limitation on yourself.

You think your "unicorn-friendly" oshi doesn't talk to male vtubers behind the scenes? They might even be great friends, and wish they could collab and have fun together on-stream but (You) would piss and shit yourself and cause problems for her, so they can't.

That's not love and support. It's an abusive relationship.

>> No.67158585

>>67158508
>I-I'll win eventually!!! Just you see!! 2 (two) more weeks!!!!

>> No.67158594

>>67158508
>What would I have to cope with?
The fact that you're being laughed at

>> No.67158599

>>67154615
Yes we only like clipfags and threadreaders here. Why watch streams like a unicorn when our oshis can be better served by defending them in some random catalog post?

>> No.67158602

>>67155088
>The most masculine South Eastern Asian /vt/ poster

>> No.67158614

>>67158508
>and i won’t even care when it does
X

>> No.67158632

>>67158574
>behind the scenes
That's perfectly fine, and they should keep it there.

>> No.67158649

>>67157808
>if you break your promises, I'll leave
>vtuber breaks promise
>leave
Yeah, so bad. How terrible they are.

>> No.67158661

>>67158441
>all I have to do is capitulate to schizos who are constantly on the edge of turning on me
Great environment
>They're loyal as fuck
>will drop them for liking a male's tweet

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>Why yes, I am abusive towards my oshi

>> No.67158677

I wholeheartedly welcome our newfriends, just lurk a bit and you will fit in

>> No.67158692

>>67158574
>You think your "unicorn-friendly" oshi doesn't talk to male vtubers behind the scenes?
I really don't care about what they do behind the scenes my nigga
>They might even be great friends, and wish they could collab and have fun together on-stream
Not really my problem, if they want they can and I'll just stop watching and take my money elsewhere to a chuuba that caters to me, it's as simple as that
>It's an abusive relationship
>le invisible gun strikes again

>> No.67158720

>>67158540
>Hit the nail on the head
Q-quick, call him a cuck! That'll shut him up!!

>> No.67158731

>>67158574
>it’s retarded to place limitations on your main source of income for the sake of keeping your fans happy
Lmao what? This is a job, not a fucking summer camp, if i were a vtuber, i would actively do what my fans prefer because that’s my fucking job, to make my fans happy

>> No.67158753

>>67158661
>will drop them for liking a male's tweet
This has never happened before, only collabs.

>> No.67158760

>>67158632
If they WANT to, sure.
They should never feel pressured to by their fans.

>>67158692
>I really don't care about what they do behind the scenes my nigga
I guess that's why Rushia's BTS leaking for half a second literally fucked her career huh
Because nobody cares about what happens off-stream right

>> No.67158775

>>67158574
I like how this post to "own the unicorns" ultimiately just turns in an antipost
>Don't you realise all of your oshis are talking to men and flirting behind the scenes and they secretly hate you
I read anti threads on 5ch and this is the exact same thing they say. Actually, the average post in 5ch anti threads isn't as insulting towards Vtubers as you are
The Homobegger -> Vtuber anti pipeline is real.

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>Come into thread
>Insult both sides
>Sit back and enjoy the chaos

>> No.67158782

>>67155088
Why nominate none EN chuubas? They sure as hell aren't aware of even being in this rigged crap.

>> No.67158791

>>67158661
Ok then just don’t do that?

>> No.67158835

Imagine being so mentally ill that you watch someone who doesn't know who you are, who will never EVER meet you in real life, who will (in almost all cases) never talk with you in private, and yet you feel threatened by them being in the same vicinity as someone of the opposite sex, even knowing you will never EVER have the opportunity to so much as to have her direct her gaze towards you. Unicorns are pathetic. Go socialize with actual people and find yourselves a real flesh and bone girlfriend.

>> No.67158861

>>67158760
>I guess that's why Rushia's BTS leaking for half a second literally fucked her career huh
Anon, all of Rushia's gachikoi and unicorns followed her and some are still there for some reason, like arigathanks and akhevan. What fucked her career was going to Kore2 and breaking NDA.
>Because nobody cares about what happens off-stream right
Anon the message was quite clearly on-stream.

>> No.67158889

I kind of pity unicorns. They're only setting themselves up to be hurt pretty badly when they realize the truth.

>> No.67158898

>>67158760
It's because it leaked on her stream while she was Rushia, it didn't happen elsewhere so that people could go "he doesn't know". Unicorns are actually really easy to please but somehow someway the girls STILL fuck it up.

>> No.67158904

>>67158661
>on the edge of turning on me
Why does this logic only apply to Unicorns.
Why don't we have anti Taiwanese threads every day, making posts about how you should never court Taiwanese fans because they're one Bilibili stream away from turning on them. I've seen Taiwanese fans oshihen from someone they've supported for years because they talked on stream about how they MIGHT stream on Bilibili.

>> No.67158905
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>>67158835
and yet they welcome getting thoroughly "cucked" (entire arm in vagina levels of cucked) by female chuubas

>> No.67158924

>>67158760
>they should prioritize what they want to do rather then their really easy career of playing video games for 10 hours a week that pays in the high 6 figure range
Are you actually retarded?

>> No.67158927

>>67156273
>"insightful" vtuber industry commentary
>Vshojo shill
>surprised when Pekora doesn't win an EOP award
Couldn't be any more obvious

>> No.67158929

>>67158775
>they secretly hate you
Yes, you specifically.
They like the normal fans.

>>67158861
>all of Rushia's gachikoi and unicorns followed her
Me when I lie

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67158972

unicorns are the same kind of people that think wrestling is real

>> No.67158992

>>67158835
This post reeks of seethe

>> No.67158996

>>67158924
are you a muslim?

>> No.67159005

>>67158760
>They should never feel pressured to by their fans.
That depends on what they promised to their fans. If they were honest about it, for instance like Bae, who mentioned liking Roberu on her first stream, you're right. However, if they do GFE, just to do a sudden 180 later, they absolutely should be called out for it. GFE is emotional manipulation itself, practically making money of exploiting people who weren't mentally balanced in the first place. Shitting on them later is borderline abuse that should not be excused just because a woman does it.

>> No.67159008

>>67158904
I dunno, probably because nobody here cares that much about Taiwan or Bilibili

>> No.67159015

>>67158861
>akhevan
He's been gone for a month. He did post a Tweet though confirming that the reasons he left had nothing to do with males, though.
When she realised he was gone, she basically herarued for a full day afterwards. It unironically wouldn't surprise me if she was still pining over him in her own retarded way.

>> No.67159028

Imagine being so mentally ill that you care enough to come to a board for the worship of 30 year old asian women pretending to be chinese cartoon characters on a Mongolian basket weaving website to complain about people enjoying a certain type of content and girls who willingly produce that certain type of content, couldn't be me.

>> No.67159054

>>67158992
this post reeks of curry

>> No.67159076

>>67158924
>they should prioritize what they want to do
Yes

There are more than enough examples of successful vtubers who don't have to bend the knee to unicorns to demonstrate that (You) are not necessary in any way.

>> No.67159082

>>67158929
>Me when I lie
Learn Japanese and do Mikeneko reps, all of them where still there after graduation but they slowly left over time after she kept fucking up. Not my problem you get all your info from EOP drama channels.

>> No.67159083

>>67159008
It's because Anticorns are white knights who treat Unicorns as antis.

>> No.67159122

>>67158574
>You think your "unicorn-friendly" oshi doesn't talk to male vtubers behind the scenes?
My oshi denies ever interacting with Tempiss behind the scenes, so yeah, I don't think my oshi interacts with Tempiss behind the scenes. Thanks for the cuck fanfiction, though.
>It's an abusive relationship.
Kek. Choosing to stop giving a chuuba money and views because she collabs with males isn't abuse, sister.

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>>67159076
my unicorn slayer can't be this cute

>> No.67159152

>>67159028
Making a passing comment is far from actively complaining. Plus it's amusing to see you guys get so worked up when someone dares to tell you the truth.

>> No.67159192

>>67159152
>passing comment
>been bitching on the thread for the past 20 minutes
Yeah sure sis

>> No.67159200

>>67159083
>act like antis the moment your oshi does anything you disagree with
>w-we're not antis
lmao

>> No.67159243

Everyone who has a strong opinion on male collabs should kill themselves

>> No.67159259

>>67159076
It doesn’t change the fact that it’s really not hard to appeal to unicorns, you retards make it seem harder then it is

>> No.67159264

>>67159144
>slayer
I'm a Unicorn and I appreciate what Suisei does. I don't watch her obviously, but she knows what she wants to do and does it
That doesn't mean I want every Vtuber, especially my oshi, to mimic her. Otherwise Vtubing would be boring. You need that variety.
People waging wars on Unicorns are almost always going to anti a bunch of Vtubers by default.

>> No.67159284

>>67158661
>all I have to do is capitulate to schizos who are constantly on the edge of turning on me
Except the "schizos" just don't want you to collab with men or talk about your sex life. And if you follow those two simple rules they'll shower you with money and undying loyalty. Any content creator with a brain would kill for an audience that easy.

>> No.67159286

>>67159192
And I'm sure you've spent your entire day stuck here. Sorry this discussion hurts your feelings but you can always leave the thread and ignore it.

>> No.67159287

>>67159122
>Choosing to stop giving a chuuba money and views because she collabs with males isn't abuse
Serving ultimatums (e.g. do/don't do this or I leave) is a common behavior of abusive people, actually

>> No.67159288

>>67154412
Gura is the queen of 4chan

>> No.67159289

>>67159200
>leave the moment your oshi collabs with a male
>THATS ANTI BEHAVIOR!!! STAY EVEN THOUGH THEY DON'T CATER TO YOU ANYMORE!!!

>> No.67159312

Looking through the thread, it's really obvious that the majority of anti-unicorn posts aren't for the girls, they're against their fanbase. Those people don't "like" the girls, they hate a specific subset of "viewers". It's like /v/ with chuds and trannies. Or just /pol/ in general. /vt/ going viral and becoming a reddit subsidiary was a disaster.

>> No.67159334

>>67159200
Then just… don’t do things that we disagree with? Why is it so hard to fathom that not collabing with males is not that hard

>> No.67159358

>>67159200
Do you lack self awareness? Nearly every streamer would classify someone like you, who harasses and mocks their fans, as an anti

>> No.67159361

>>67159286
I'm humoring your delusions, my oshi just finished streaming and I have nothing better to do today.

>> No.67159368

>>67159289
>leave
oh is that why I have to see your stupid posts every single day?
because you left?

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>>67159284
>misspeak one time
>accidentally show a DM one time
>etc
>suddenly this "easy" fanbase goes feral

>> No.67159385

>>67158835
Collabs between Holo EN and Tempus stopped happening. Unicorns won. Seethe.

>> No.67159400

>>67158992
I am fortunate enough where my favourite vtuber heavily disincentivizes parasocial relationships, and my second favourite is married to a man (who probably fucks her). I watch them for the content they provide, having a male on stream doesn't make the content bad. Depends on if the game is fun or not, if they sing well together or not, so on and so forth. I don't like PDA in general so that doesn't attract me but simply having someone of the opposite sex on stream doesn't mean that they are going to start e-fucking right then and there. You can have a professional, cordial and even friendly relationship with someone of the opposite sex and not flirt with/fuck them.
>>67159243 perfect take either way

>> No.67159428

>>67159368
>is that why I have to see your stupid posts every single day?
>implying my oshi has collabed with a male and I bitch about it
Are you a retard anon? Not every poster is the same.

>> No.67159473

>>67159400
Ok, but i’m still not gonna watch them

>> No.67159476

>>67159287
The vast majority of Unicorns leave silently, though. No ultimatum gets made
Usually though, the expectation to avoid male collabs is set by the Vtuber first, not the other way around.
People with the capacity to commuciate normally with their fans become aware of Unicorns because a lot of Vtubers have the common decency to field potentially controversial ideas to their fans in advance and react to their fans acting in a normal way.

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>>67159358
>I control and harass my streamer, I'm a true fan
>you tell me i'm deranged, you're an anti

>> No.67159484

>>67159400
So basically, you don't like vtubers, you like streamers. Twitch is there for you with thousands you can follow.

>> No.67159511

>>67159287
>paying for something is abusive
is paying for things a foreign concept to you Jamal?

>> No.67159535

>>67159386
>problem solved by just hiding notifications
Sounds pretty damn easy to me anon

>> No.67159539

holy fuck there is no easier group to troll on /vt/ than unicorns
freest (You)s in the universe

>> No.67159541

>>67159386
You must be aware that this "all of the girls are secretly talking to men in DMs" line of logic you're using is literally the logic that Vtuber antis use to attack the girls, right?
So you're attacking both the girls and their fans in the same post while trying to hold the moral high ground.

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>>67159539
>t. picrel

>> No.67159617

>>67159478
>completely avoidable by simply not talking about your sex life and not collabing with males
Why do you retards make this sound so difficult? Unless you are unironically a massive whore, It’s not hard

>> No.67159625

>>67159478
Fans have almost no power. The only power they have is to choose whether to watch/donate or not. It is impossible for a fan to control a streamer once said streamer grows over a certain size
I can see it happening to some 2views where they only have a handful of donors, but any 4view and up Vtuber is free to do whatever they want. But they also shouldn't be surprised if they earn less money if they annoy their fanbase.

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HAHAHAHAHAHA UNIC*RNS ACTING LIKE VICTIMS
thanks guys this is genuinely hilarious

>> No.67159635

>>67158133
NTA, but KWAB means Kevin Was Always Based

>> No.67159650

>>67158121
Have you ever been to the /#/ thread? Unicorns are constantly shitting on chuubas and holos alike there

>> No.67159657

I think unicorns are fine as long as they don't harass the vtubers who don't try to appeal to them. Live and let live.

>> No.67159658

>>67159617
>Why do you retards make this sound so difficult
They have to make it sound impossible to justify their begging.

>> No.67159662

I wish Hololive would never have pandered to unicorns. Doing that in the past elevated them and made them popular. Without that, they would still be competing with Nijisanji. EOPs would have found them, but the cancer would be much less widespread. I wager EN's existence is all the fault of unicorns who spent way too much on JP chubas, funding another branch. And the existence if /vt/ is HoloEN's fault. God... fucking unicorns... I hate them so much...

>> No.67159668

>>67159603
>starts losing argument
>muh i was trolling the whole time
A tale as old as the internet itself

>> No.67159699

>>67159287
>Serving ultimatums (e.g. do/don't do this or I leave) is a common behavior of abusive people, actually
Serving ultimatums is what people with self-respect and a spine do. If you'll tolerate anything someone does and don't draw any lines anywhere then you're a pathetic door mat. Every healthy relationship whether it's romantic, platonic, or the extremely casual relationship between a streamer and his or her viewers has mutual boundaries that both parties agree not to cross.

>> No.67159707

>>67159511
>they get money from it, so that makes it all OK
Holy shit you're retarded

>>67159541
>literally the logic that Vtuber antis use to attack the girls
>to attack that girls
Do you think that these people are not unicorns?
The ONLY reason you would consider this a bad thing is if you find it objectionable that they interact with males. Which is unicorn behavior.

It is not an attack on the girls to recognize that they are human beings who live in reality and here in reality, people make friends across the gender line.
It happens all the time. It's normal.

>> No.67159714

>>67154615
>t. has no oshi

>> No.67159747

>>67159662
>>67159626
Keep seething, we still won

>> No.67159750

>>67159668
I accept your confusion

>> No.67159763

>>67159386
>accidentally show a DM one time
would not be a problem if they did not DM people they should not DM. It is not some impossible task literally just try to interact as little as possible with men for a couple years. We autists do this for our entire life unwillingly yet when they are asked to just avoid doing it for a couple years it is considered the worst kind of abuse.

>> No.67159790

>>67159657
Fucking this
Unciorns refuse to stay in their lane though, they marginalize a group of Holos even within their own company who they continue to harass and shit on to this day

>> No.67159793

>>67159747
You definitely didn't win any reading comprehension contest, though.

>> No.67159800

>>67159699
>Serving ultimatums is what people with self-respect and a spine do
I guess I'll consider it a good thing that you have nobody in your real life being subjected to your abusive patterns of behavior.

>mutual boundaries
Is not the same thing as an ultimatum.

>> No.67159827

>>67159707
Holy shit you’re seething

>> No.67159831

>>67159603
kek

>> No.67159849

If sjw hate unicorns so much they should replace them, you know? Buying merch, joining memership and all that, it's really easy

>> No.67159864

>>67159707
>It is not an attack on the girls to recognize that they are human beings who live in reality and here in reality, people make friends across the gender line.
>It happens all the time. It's normal.
Anon no one cares if they make friends offline, just don't collab with them on stream. Stop trying to make it sound like it's us asking to have them cut all male contact forever. They could literally be banging 10 dudes and no one would care if they just don't make it public because no one would know.

>> No.67159865

>>67159707
not only are unemployed but you also don't have basic reading comprehension. You said it was abusive because there was the ultimatum of "money" or "no money". That is called a business transaction you nigger.

>> No.67159866

>threads and posts still shitting on Ame, Mori, Kronii, now Aki
defend this, losers

>> No.67159877

>>67159793
We… still… won…
Cry about it more

>> No.67159880

>>67159707
>Do you think that these people are not unicorns?
The people who use 5ch anti thread are not Unicorns. Most anti threads on 5ch openly mock Unicorns and cuckpost relentlessly.
>The ONLY reason you would consider this a bad thing is if you find it objectionable that they interact with males.
No, usually the line of logic these antis use is closer to
>look, she's a liar
>she does stuff behind the scenes and lies to her fans
>she's just doing this for their money and they're so gullible
And the only reason I even bother reading 5ch normalfag drivel is my oshi is terminally addicted to keijiban and reads it too.

>> No.67159882

>>67159849
Unicorns should keep their mouths shut and continue supporting whoever they already do instead of harassing the ones who go against the mold, you can do that right?

>> No.67159892

>>67159484
Every vtuber is by definition a streamer though, unless they are doing the old Kizuna Ai model. I don't remember since when being a cartoon made it so you can't interact with the opposite gender.
>>67159763
and this is what I mean, literally policing who the fuck they DM or not during their off-time, "Yeah if they just DID NOT TALK WITH MALES EVER during their careers everything would be fine! The absolute GALL!, How could she???" this is so fucking sad man for real go meet people, go play board games or TTRPGs or some shit man.

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>>67159763
>would not be a problem if they did not DM people they should not DM
See but NOW you care about what they're doing behind the scenes, when before the argument was "just don't do it on stream"

>Isolate yourself arbitrarily from an entire half of the population to appease a minority faction in your audience
>this is not abusive

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>heh, I won

>> No.67159929

>>67159386
>don't blurt out "I HAVE A BOYFRIEND BTW"
>don't use your work account for interacting with your fuckbuddies and then show a DM from one of your fuckbuddies on stream
Avoiding these things is actually extremely easy. One might even call it effortless.

>> No.67159933

>>67159892
>there is no distinction between vtubers and real streamers
But then why not just watch the latter?

>> No.67159946

>>67159882
Anon we do that already, you're the one trying to convince us that having the chuubas who pander to us collab with males is something we should want and that we are bad for indulging in a service that people like Kanata, for example, provide.

>> No.67159961

>>67159864
>Anon no one cares if they make friends offline
This guy does >>67159763
Maybe YOU specifically don't mind what they do off-stream, but clearly there are unicorns who do.

>>67159865
No, that's not what I said.

>> No.67159997

>>67159895
>See but NOW you care about what they're doing behind the scenes
That DM was shown on-stream anon, that was no longer "off-stream" at that point.

>> No.67160008

>>67159864
I belong in the opposite camp, I don't care if she talks to one or two dudes every once in a while as long as she's dedicated to her fans and shows for it instead of slacking off on the streaming part of the memo, I will continue to support her as long as she does that

>> No.67160030

>>67159933
I do both though? If the streamer is cool I watch them, if the vtuber is cool I watch them? Why can't I watch both? In fact I would watch the vtubers I currently do if they streamed in the flesh regardless. I like their content.

>> No.67160041

>>67159882
Not even negating the sjw allegations, when did you invade this hobby?

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