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68189475 No.68189475 [Reply] [Original]

Selen's Mama joins the fight!
https://twitter.com/kamamesigogo123/status/1754131748991213662
> I mean, if she's being punished then yeah, it is what it is.. or if the problem is that she needs rest, then she should take however long she needs.
> It's just, the way they're doing it is quite sickening.
> She's clearly still there, yet she's being ignored by everyone.

>> No.68189559

>>68189475
SIEG ZAION

>> No.68189663
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>I don't think it's okay to be sober
Based.

>> No.68190169

>>68189475
This is the last time they'll be working with Nijisanji that's for sure.

>> No.68190178

>>68189475
THE FIRE RISES

>> No.68190286

>>68190169
This is the last time they will be working with a jp agency period, they will be blacklisted from the entire vtuber industry. just indies now

>> No.68190584

Zamn, at least I known what Selen's nipple would look like now!
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/77920447

>> No.68190786

>>68189475
Tell her the queue is getting longer so wait
Jan: Pomu
Feb: Kyo
Mar : Selen
and so on...

>> No.68191002

>>68190286
This line of reasoning is why I don't complain on my main public twitter. I'm a medium size musician who has done commissions for both corpo and small, and I know word gets around. I don't want to be on some blacklist that'll impact work for being considered a 'loose cannon'. Granted, selen's mama is successful enough that it doesn't matter if JP chuuba corpos did blacklist her, she would get plenty of work regardless.

>> No.68191045
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>>68189475
#WhereIsSelen

>> No.68191223

>>68190286
She’s also Elira’s artist, so they’ll have to continue giving money to an artist who actively defies their rule as long as Elira wants new outfits. And Elira will probably be there beyond the day that NijiEN get’s merged into the main branch like all the other side branches. That fact alone is enough to kek at

>> No.68191421
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>>68190286
Its wild how nijikeks think anykuro has any real power when their top livers have less viewers than holoid

>> No.68191485

>>68189475
Weird to risk your career for some client like that.

>> No.68191559
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>>68189475
PARASOCIAL FUCKKKK!

>> No.68191614

>>68191421
>>68191223
>>68191002
I'm not niji fan, im saying thats how it works in jp. Dont expect the mama to do elira outfits in the future and don't expect her to be hired by other jp agencies. Like in any industry, other companies see how you portray yourself and they don't want someone who can do the same to them, thats why the concept of blacklist exist in corpo space over the world

>> No.68191733

>>68191614
Doubt this is going to affect her chance of working for, say, VShojo or Cover, not to mention her works with Arknights / CN gacha corpos.

>> No.68191764

>>68191614
If "give us a sign please, literally any status update will do" is a sentiment that gets you an industry-wide blacklist Japan continues to be worse than I ever thought

>> No.68191826

>>68191223
Most of the other girls don't get costumes by their original mama

>> No.68191860

>>68190286
Ok, I have to ask, but why would she blacklisted from the whole industry?
Niji sure, and maybe other corpos as black as niji, but in general? No.
What's happening with Selen is a PR disaster in slow motion that companies like Cover try very hard to avoid. Speaking out against it, while not exactly encouraged, should not be considered surprising, nor unprofessional.

>> No.68191905

>>68191764
Anons tend to overdramatize shits. Even Miguel with her massively tainted image still got a contract deal with Voice-Ore and later, Pony Canyon (until she fucked up).

>> No.68191928

>>68191733
Cover certainly will. vshojo no since its not even jp industry and barely a company
>>68191764
its not what shes asking but not reading the room and going against it.

>> No.68191993

>>68191421
Wtf happened to Niji's Pekora killer?

>> No.68192145

>>68191860
>Ok, I have to ask, but why would she blacklisted from the whole industry?
Imagine you have a list of 100 talented artists infront of you. All of them are very talented and renown. Do you pick the one that creates trouble for you on twitter or do you pick someone who doesn't.
It's not that Niji is making an actual list, it's that when other companies do a background check stuff like this pops up.

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>>68191421
go back to picking coconuts shitskin monkey

>> No.68192286

>>68191928
It's pretty clear she has read the room and then intentionally decided to go against it.

>> No.68192390

>>68191559
This image always gets a chuckle out of me

>> No.68192509

>>68192145
Maybe because I am a person and not a corpo, but I would be more willing to hire that person due to having (or at least acting like they have) ethics rather than being too scared to say anything. Yes men is why so many corps have stupid ideas.

>> No.68192654

>>68192509
Except Niji are the unethical party in this situation so good companies won't pass on a person skilled at their craft. If you think there are rules always meant to be followed you will always lag behind.

>> No.68192860

>>68189475
I wish selen use correctly the rope

>> No.68192865

>>68190286
Selen's mama is furious over her stealth suspension and no matter how Nijisanji tries to damage control this development a vtuber artist going rogue and calling them out makes the company look bad. Hololive had their share of radio silent "health" breaks but Cover never had an illustrator making angry tweets. Maybe she will get blacklisted by the Japanese vtuber industry but Nijisanji is burning down their reputation when even their contract employees are getting sick of their lies.

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>>68192860

>> No.68193065

>>68192860
I wish you use correctly the google translate

>> No.68193313

>>68191993
They stopped botting

>> No.68194291

>>68189475
Alright they should at least tell the artist behind the scenes what's going on. Looks like everyone is getting ignored.

>> No.68194344

>>68189475
Why is Google translate so bad

>> No.68194433

>>68191860
>What's happening with Selen is a PR disaster in slow motion that companies like Cover try very hard to avoid.
Magni and Vesper.
That's the route everyone is taking. It just so happens that the contract is further out.

>> No.68194568

>>68191764
Very few idiots on this board even speak Japanese in the first place, they don't know what life in Japan is actually like. Don't hang around here for accurate takes, only for profane shitposting.

>> No.68194728

>>68194433
Yeah, not even close. Cover announced that they would stop activity for some time.

>> No.68195125

>>68194568
クソカキコを読むことが好きだけど

>> No.68196340

>>68193065
Nah selen is a bitch and kill herself good for 4chan

>> No.68196512

>>68190286
so the no.1 rule to work with niji is throw your empathy, don't ask questions, and kiss their shoes every day. wait , that reminds me of certain party from China

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>>68196512

>> No.68196871

>>68196340
(You) kill yourself good for 4chan desu

>> No.68197708

>>68191928
Why would Cover care? You're overthinking things.
Saying "that's how jp industry works," do you even have any experience working in or for Japanese companies?

>> No.68197742

>>68190786
>March: Selen
Yeah no. Rosemi is going to be the next one

>> No.68198056
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>>68190786
>Mar : Selen
Sorry dragoon but the graduation queue is full for the next months...

>> No.68198135

>>68190786
Selen is behind Kunai, Ike and Finana so she has to wait a while

>> No.68198651

>>68192509
lol
lmao

>> No.68198729

>>68190286
>Nijikeks actually believe this
LMAO

>> No.68198876

>>68189475
Selen is in China…

>> No.68198959

>>68190286
why are bootlickers like this

>> No.68198974

>>68198135
Maybe they'll do selen and elira at the same time to save time because people might mistaken 2 dragons for each other anyway

>> No.68199137

>>68192865
I dont care about nijisanji, I'm only saying what generally happens in companies. I work in the game industry and have seen blacklist happens all the time due to things said on social media.

>> No.68199174

>>68197708
Yes, I have worked for Sega of America for 3 years and saw it happening first hand.

>> No.68199192
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>>68197742
I'm fine with that, I just think its a shame she'll lose her signature smile

>> No.68199412

>>68189475
Someone save her.

Please.

>> No.68199427

>>68198135
I would be surprised if Finana left before Vox

>> No.68199607

>>68190584
That's a rare Towa

>> No.68200546

>>68191993
The stopped paying for the bots after the IPO

>> No.68200877

>>68199427
Vox is participating in the MK tournie, unlike Finana. He's mentally checked out but hasn't sent his resignation in yet, probably helps management is desperate to keep SOME luxiem members on board with Mysta gone and Ike leaving

>> No.68201355

>>68199137
Sadly I agree that Selen's mama will get blacklisted from Nijisanji and Hololive. There are too many corpo bootlickers that will look away during these radio silent "health" breaks. Management will be angry with her for calling out the stealth suspension but it's commendable to find someone in the vtuber industry that is honest.

>> No.68201548

>>68201355
Lol no.
Artist get involved in much worse drama and still get work from holo/niji
If she get blacklisted, it would be solely by niji out of spite.

>> No.68201606

>>68201548
>>68201355
You also have to understand that being an artist for vtuber corpo, even big one, isn't even on the highest totem within the otkaku industry in the first plafe

>> No.68201618

>>68190286
>they

>> No.68201620

>>68189475
As the company turned black!
Did Selen ever defy Niji?
Beyond it all, do you recognize her?
Does streaming have meaning?

>> No.68201652

>>68200877
I don't watch Vox that often, but the few times I have, it was apparent he was checked out but was scared of not having the skills to pull off anything else. Maybe I'm mistaken on that, but I've been wondering if he could be inspired by his coworkers/friends leaving and trying new stuff themselves.
In which case, it would make sense that he's not leaving YET, but he might eventually.

Finana I don't see trying that at all, considering her upbringing and general attitude. She might ditch, but I didn't get the impression that she was interested yet because arguably she's not as driven as Vox and she seems generally more satisfied.

>> No.68201922

>>68199174
Sure bud, and my uncle work at Nintendo
Also
> Sega
Also also
> of America

>> No.68201970

>>68190286
If you don't know the sex just shorten the name. Say kama.
Using they when you don't need to is so fucking tranny and unnecessarily obscures who is being talked about.

>> No.68201981

>>68189475
I don't want to disrespect her because I don't know what she's going through but I'm thinking this isn't even on Nijisanji at this point and it's Selen going menhara and just ignoring everything. It's understandable if she's depressed but it would be nice to throw a tweet or something out there on your rm account to let your fans know you aren't fucking dead. I hope she's not in that bad of a place mentally that she doesn't care anymore. You're one of the most popular NijiEN vtubers, people care about you and miss hearing your voice. Stay strong!

>> No.68202003

>>68190286
>we're gonna see more indies with 10/10 models

>> No.68202131

>>68190286
would not surprise me if this is the kind of rhetoric kurosanji uses to gaslight and abuse its employees

>> No.68202161

>>68201981
how much RMB per post?

>> No.68202304

>>68190286
>this is what Nijisanji actually believes

>> No.68202350
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>>68189475
>”I don’t think it’s ok to be sober”
Truest thing I’ve ever seen on this board

>> No.68202364

>>68202161
I don't really understand your post but I hate Nijisanji and I think they've fucked her beyond belief but this is too weird of a situation

>> No.68203051

>>68201548
>If she get blacklisted, it would be solely by niji out of spite.
Yup.
Her, RPR, the artists who worked on her MV, they'll all be blacklisted by Niji for daring to not hate Selen as much as management does. They'll be blacklisted once Selen is terminated, either directly by management themselves, or by livers who get pressured by management into blocking them (read: all the EN livers, or at least the ones who want more than a week to prepare for their own graduation).
Niji will also blacklist any content creator who collabs with not-Selen in any way after Selen's termination (vtuber collab partners, stream asset artists, sound mixers, anyone who gives her so much as the time of day, etc.), and will almost certainly private vods and videos on other livers' channels that feature her in any way, whether as a collab stream or if they just mention her in passing.

Rosemi is gonna need a new intro video, since her current one features Selen (and I think it was made by Selen)

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>>68192860
What the fuck first language even has grammar like this?
>>68202161
>be ESL
>try to call out native speaker as a zhang
Sad!

>> No.68203676

>>68189475
where the fuck is Selen

>> No.68203703

>>68191764
Indeed. And they wonder why suicide rates are absurd. You can't even ask "is this person okay??".

>> No.68203786

>>68201970
Take your meds, your insanity is showing.

>> No.68203884

>>68197742
Why would Rosemi ever do that?

>> No.68204077

>>68197742
Imagine if Petra and Finana are the last lazusydia standing in 2025, and the rest have them as their daisenpais

>> No.68204910

>>68192860
The Tiananmen Square protests, known in China as the June Fourth Incident[1][2][a] were student-led demonstrations held in Tiananmen Square, Beijing, China, lasting from 15 April to 4 June 1989. After weeks of unsuccessful attempts between the demonstrators and the Chinese government to find a peaceful resolution, the Chinese government decl...

>> No.68205024

>>68189475
Just saying, Dokibird's design drawn by Selen and Elira's artist would be peak sex

>> No.68205195

>>68190584
oh
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/78487881

>> No.68205235
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>>68191421
KEK never show them mercy based number bro

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>>68189475
>The other tweets made today

>> No.68205489

>>68191002
>I'm a medium size musician who has done commissions for both corpo and small,
The only possible truth in this post is that you're medium size, and even that is a bit of a stretch.

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>>68190286
Hmmm ndf or shitposter?

>> No.68205753

>>68189475
Would this dissuade good artists from being vtuber mamas for nijisanji in the future?

>> No.68205757

>>68191826
[citation needed]

>> No.68205949

>>68205754
ndf psyop to incite social pressure and social consequences that could lead to the artist taking down the tweet

>> No.68206002

>>68205754
obviously some faggot from /here/

>> No.68206029

>>68191559
Now now feesh calm down nobody mentioned nothing about gaslighting. Look over there a shiny new genshin like gacha! so shiny!

>> No.68206140

>>68205754
More like a retard that thinks he's smart.

>> No.68206599

Elira better enjoy that outfit her mama is going to get unperson'd

>> No.68206854

>>68206599
No she won't, she'll be fine.

>> No.68206946

>>68191421
OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NIJIKEKS DON'T LOOK

>> No.68207004
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>>68201981
https://twitter.com/vgumihoe/status/1753486064696848651
vGumiho tweeted on the #WhereIsSelen hashtag.
She knows Selen IRL, so her tweet points to Nijisanji as the problem.

>> No.68208441

>>68207004
Damn, people are really coming out to bat for Selen.

>> No.68208771

>>68205757
I only follow Hololive but it's extremely common for outfits to not be by your mama.

>> No.68208856

Has there been any activity on her rm account? The answer to that should let you know if it's Niji that's keeping her quiet.

>> No.68209143

>>68208441
She's such a positive person, it's no surprise. I hope she leaves Niji. They've treated her so poorly. She deserves better.

>> No.68209280

>>68208856
Only her Apex account, which has also stopped changing its alias to "random" things.

>> No.68209559

>>68209280
Then what are the chances it's Niji gagging her? And if Niji is really restricting her from using her rm wouldn't they just tell her not to tweet anything about the situation? Why can't she just say good morning or hello, considering how much panic this entire situation has generated over this past month.

>> No.68209930

>>68196340
I hope you have numerous nuclear accidents, ching chong

>> No.68210017
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>>68191002
Honestly I don't get why this is so controversial to so many people.

You don't talk shit about your employers or your coworkers, even if you're right it just shows that you're a drama queen who can't be trusted.
It's one thing to vent to coworkers behind closed doors, it's another to broadcast it for everyone to hear. Especially when 99% of the people that read your complaints don't actually know how any job actually works.

It's not about black companies, it's just showing that you're a mature adult that can hold themselves back from acting like a teenage girl.

>> No.68210537

>>68209559
One believable rrat that I saw get posted here was that Selen cannot currently communicate much due to legal reasons. Like maybe she's in the process of legally fighting back against her former employer and is trying to get out, at the very least it would explain why she's been missing for more than a month. It would also explain why her coworkers have been eerily silent on the matter and refuse to acknowledge her at all.

>>68205753
Very likely for their EN branch, it's hard to see some artists wanting to work with them for any reason outside of the paycheck. As for their JP branch it's difficult to say, though I'm sure some may not be happy if they're fans of Chihiro.

>> No.68210640

>>68205753
I personally would still do it.
Just imagine all the free victim points you'd get when your baby gets fired.

>> No.68210866

>>68210017
She's not emotionally venting, she's consciously applying public pressure on anykara to do something about the situation. It's a protest of sorts. It's not the same thing as going on Facebook and posting "Karl from accounting is such an asshole!"

>> No.68210971

>>68210537
Also, it would push more artists toward holo if niji makes makes a move for something like that. Holo has very good rep with artists and treat them fairly well and many artists got bigger and more successful after working closely with Holo. Niji is hurting on the low level casual fan projects department by pushing many of them away.

>> No.68211019

>>68210866
No, but it is going on twitter and going
>lol my employer is an asshole and nobody should work for them anymore!

do whatever you want, but don't be surprised if the next employer decides to skip out on you because they don't want to deal with the drama because they didn't have gender neutral bathrooms.

>> No.68211046

>>68205757
Nta but Rosemi has gotten 1 or 2 from a different mama, Selen did too for one outfit iirc, all of zuttomo got their recent outfits done by the same girl, can't think of anyone else though

>> No.68211123

>>68211019
>gender neutral bathrooms
DO AMERICANS REALLY????

>> No.68211201

>>68210537
I understand that, but why can't she just out out a tweet saying "Hey guys, im doing well. Hope youre having a good day." or literally anything else thats not related to Niji. At this point I don't see how this can be anything other than self imposed silence but im willing to listen to other explanations

>> No.68211608

>>68211201
If she's lawyered up, then legal council may have told her to shut up while they handle the situation.
Alternatively, the "official" reasons for Selen's inactivity is unforeseen medical issues, so Anycolor could be claiming an NDA breach if she uses other channels to imply she's okay.

>> No.68212029

>>68190286
Yeah maybe in 2019 when Nijisanji was too dog and had a strangle hold on the industry. But that was a long time ago old man.

>> No.68212080

I'm kinda baffled that Nijisanji didn't say anything on the matter, even some bullshit excuse or vague "she's on a hiatus due to stuff", just absolute silence...

>> No.68212136

>>68211608
I swear if shes still staying in niji despite having the bad treatment then she is the real masocist

>> No.68212448

Why won't they just get it fucking over with? The longer they wait the harder the fanbases will swing at the company. This is a total fucking embarrassment. It's a crying shame to see things get to this point. Utterly shameful to see a corpo act like this

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>Riku's face

>> No.68212641

>>68212136
Unfortunately, a contract often means you can't just up and walk away.
She might already be "out", but if Niji won't dissolve the contract then she's still bound by it.

>> No.68212828

>>68190286
>blacklisted
Over this? The rest of the industry will be laughing at them if tried. What a petty black company. Best to ignore.

>> No.68213062

It's funny how far this has blown up beyond Selen's expectations

>> No.68213180

>>68197742
rosemi in march
selen in april

>> No.68213357

>>68211608
>the "official" reasons for Selen's inactivity is unforeseen medical issues, so Anycolor could be claiming an NDA breach if she uses other channels to imply she's okay.

Could they claim such an NDA breach because she was playing Apex? Because her playing Apex at all proves that she's healthy enough to play Apex, and disproves any claims that she isn't.
It would certainly be one of the business moves of all time, to fire her for playing Apex while she's not on the clock. Especially since they haven't formally announced that she's on a medical hiatus, despite the shills' (necessarily unofficial) claims that she is.

>> No.68213517

>>68192865
>Hololive had their share of radio silent "health" breaks but Cover never had an illustrator making angry tweets.
Hololive had the Mizuryu Kei debacle

>> No.68213556

>>68211019
It is warning others to not work for Anycolor since they do not treat anyone right. People should be applauded for doing that, not shamed.

>> No.68213700

>>68212448
Because Anycolor is trying to punish Selen so that no one else "steps out of line". It is a brute force tactic used by those insecure of their own power.

>> No.68213724

>>68211608
>Anycolor could be claiming an NDA breach if she uses other channels to imply she's okay.
I just find that very difficult to believe. The other anon said it too, she's apparently healthy enough to fuck around on her Apex account. If she wanted, she could just tweet out a good morning to let everybody know she's alive. The only explanation that fits all bills is that she's staying silent on purpose for whatever reason

>> No.68213862

>>68213062
Pomu took things on the chin and waited it out. Selen won't though, since she won't bend the knee at all. This stubbornness to have a spine is frowned upon in Asian cultures where you are expected to be ass blasted on a whim, so she is being silenced.

>> No.68213939

>>68213724
Or she is suspended indefinitely until her contract runs out. Or legal battle.

>> No.68214083

>>68212080
The "health" break excuse was a much riskier lie to use for NijiEN stealth suspensions because they don't pay them enough to put up with the loss of revenue. Selen would prefer to have a graduation than being stuck in limbo for the next few months especially if she was already thinking of leaving.

>> No.68214414

Being blacklist by nijisanji is the morally correct stance
Cover also rarely ever uses nijisanji artists for models

>> No.68214630

>>68213862
I mean her suspension is definitely over, now she's just milking it

>> No.68214911

>>68211201
I don't understand it either. My guess is that she is legally unable to say or do anything as Selen because she has been graduated/terminated pending Anycolor's official notice. And maybe she's unable to do anything anymore as Dokibird because her former employer is threatening her or something if she does it without them acting first?
It doesn't make any sense, but then again Anycolor's managers for their EN branch have never made sensical decisions either.

>> No.68214974

>>68203884
the demons in my head said so

>> No.68217624

>>68213939
The fact that "ongoing litigation" is the most favorable possible explanation for Niji, for their and Selen's silence, is rather telling.

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>>68190286
LMAO she's making bank working on chink gachas like she gives a fuck about a dying shit brand like Niji.

>> No.68218159
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>Selen will force Elira to get another mama
I hate that menhera bitch so much. Why is she doing this? Selen is not worth it ma'am. She's a mentally unstable menhera and is ghosting people on purpose at this point. It isn't the company silencing her lmao. How can you think this?

>> No.68218179

>>68197742
Yeah Rosemi is streaming so much it's suspicious. She's 90% on the way out.

>> No.68218648

>>68203703
But enought about USA, we are talking about japan not the leader of suicide rate.

>> No.68218889

>>68218159
What’s your rank in the NDF?

>> No.68219005 [DELETED] 

>>68218889
High enough to know Selen has been cucking you with Nocturne this whole time, faggot.

>> No.68219033

>>68212641
There might be some way to walk, but I wouldn't be surprised if it required mutual agreement to do so without penalties and Selen isn't going to get any agreement from anykara until it's her month to leave

>> No.68219903

>>68191002
>Medium sized Musician
Reminds me of that Joshua faggot who tried to shit on Fuwamoco, and in response Mori permanently stopped using the commission she got from him. Also got smashed by fans for a bit. Internet whining is such bad image.

>> No.68219906

>>68207004
in my opinion this is a PR attack being cordinated by Selen
Even if we try to believe in rpr's bullshit, Gumi doesn't fit the bill for that
So who's next to keep the pressure, Nocturnal? iPN? Surefour? dtto? Amalee? Froot? Zentreya?

>> No.68220045

>>68219005
Interesting reflex, but I automatically expect that of Nijisisters since you are all doxxfags. Graduate another organ then, it’s more of your problem than mine for not realizing how it continues to plague you.

>> No.68220323

>>68219906
>in my opinion this is a PR attack being cordinated by Selen
>Even if we try to believe in rpr's bullshit, Gumi doesn't fit the bill for that
>So who's next to keep the pressure, Nocturnal? iPN? Surefour? dtto? Amalee? Froot? Zentreya?
Would be based, I hope that's true. And hopefully all of them.

>> No.68220327

>>68218159
Implying Elira isn't in the Queue

>> No.68220367

>>68219906
i believe it, she is petty enough to do that

>> No.68222270

>>68198876

why?

>> No.68222539

>>68222270
To defeat the Huns

>> No.68222823

>>68219906
I'd love to see her continue this charade until one of her more groomed fans thinks its serious enough to contact Canadian police

>> No.68223056

>>68222823
Canadian police will never find the body. It's probably already in japan, being eaten by riku for some forbidden ritual.

>> No.68224872

IRYS 12K

>> No.68225201

>>68218648
So, Japan?

>> No.68225951

>>68222539
I can't believe Niji sent China daughters, when they asked for sons.

>> No.68226549

>>68219906
Probably not Zen or Froot, unless they want to permanently ban all Niji EN livers and all Vshojo talents from ever interacting with each other.
I mean Mata and Kuro and Kson are already on Niji's blacklist. But any Vshojo talents publicly acknowledging Selen's silence will definitely lead to that talent also being blacklisted, and probably also the rest of Vshojo.

>> No.68228612

>>68205489
Well I'm not doxxing myself today, so believe what you want to believe.

>>68219903
This is what I mean. I thought Joshua or whatever his name was had a stupid opinion. Because he whined about Fuwamoco though, it clearly killed his holo connection with Calli too. There's a good chance Cover won't hire him anymore after this. There is a good chance from a fan's perspective if he was to get hired for something, there'd be people thinking "hey that's the guy that had that shitty opinion about Fuwamoco's contest that one time!" He's clearly remembered here at least.

Other corpos may or may not care, but posting something to creep towards being a brand risk is a thing to watch out for, because if you don't have a long-term contract, there are almost always artists/musicians to replace you.

>> No.68231237

>>68220327
Don't even joke about that.

>> No.68232013

>>68226549
But in a year, who would be left to even collab with in Nijisanji?

>> No.68232471

>>68232013
Hololive and compliant indies? Worst case scenario they don't need anyone but Nijisanji.

>> No.68232849

>>68232471
Right, but, if Zen makes Nijisanji ban collabs, would it really matter if everyone worth collabing with in Nijisanji EN is gone already? Like, Rosemi is rumored to be on her way out ahead of Selen, and if Pomu and Mika join Vshojo, why would Vshojo bother to collab with the husk of what is left of Nijisanji EN anyway?

>> No.68232928

>>68194568
>they don't know what life in Japan is actually like
That's why they have retarded notions about idol-culture and have created this bizarre cargo cult where they completely misunderstand it and the concept of unicorns. Shit is wild.

>> No.68232975

What if she already off herself???

>> No.68233113

>>68232975
Then who was Apex?

>> No.68233144

>>68189475
Poor Mama

>> No.68233241

>>68191045
Cute

>> No.68233254

>>68232849
In that case yes, I don't think there'd be a reason for Vshojo to try and collaborate.
>>68232975
Riku would have already paraded the body.

>> No.68233474

>>68189475
>mama burns bridges with NijiEN for her daughter
>becomes Selen's mama again when she reincarnates

We are winning, Dragoons

>> No.68233879

>>68233113
Me

>> No.68234707

>>68190584
Nice.

>> No.68235007

>>68218648
>>68225201
>#1 Lithuania
>#10 South Korea
>#28 USA
>#46 Japan
>literally all the other countries between Lithuania and US are either Second World or Third World shitholes

Too bad this stuff is impossible to find with a simple google search

>> No.68235042

>>68235007
Lithiumbros...

>> No.68235178

>>68189475
I know she mentioned this before. That is 3 tweets she deleted about this.
Niji pressuring her?

>> No.68235308
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>>68235178
>check
>tweet is really deleted
Holy mother of black companies. Niji must be very dedicated to fucking over the purple dragon. Imagine having a billion dollar corpo going down on you this hard.

>> No.68235908

>>68235178
Black company

>> No.68235919

>>68201970
No one cares weeb

>> No.68236053
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checked

>> No.68236099

>>68235178
>>68235308
Or they told her what happened and she doesn't want her tweets attracting dramaniggers like you anymore.

>> No.68236153

>>68192865
>Nijisanji tries to damage control
They did literally nothing

>> No.68236258

>>68236099
Anon. That is not a W when even the person who created Selen was left in the dark for over a month and Niji only answering her when she brings it up.

>> No.68236275

>>68232975
Realistically speaking, wouldn't they have some kind of obligation to tell people that she passed away if that was the case? It would seem super fucking shady to hide her death, no?

>> No.68236325

>>68236053
>I hope the verification is done soon
Shit dawg that's a lot of copium

>>68236275
She's not dead, just dead to Nijisanji

>> No.68236342

I haven't read the board for a while, did she do something bad before fucking off? Is this one of those stealth suspensions?

>> No.68236386

>>68236275
They absolutely do cause of memberships. Not sure about the legality if she is dead and they still use her to make money from her name.

>> No.68236388

>>68236342
She released a music video that management were supervising and said was fine, then upon release they said it wasn't fine so they took it down costing Selen $15,000. Selen said it was fine to reupload, and ever since its been radio silence.

>> No.68236411

>>68236325
she is Japanese, she has no idea the EN branch is on fire for a year at least now

>> No.68236424

>>68236386
inb4 they copy Vedal and rig up an AI Selen, Weekend At Bernie's style

>> No.68236481

>>68236342
To be fair, the only thing coming to mind is her christmas cover song but that is what we are all wondering about.
We don't know what exactly went down, we dont know where Selen is, how she is doing, her status.
Its absolute radio silence while Pomu and Kyo graduated.

Some really weird shit is going on.

>> No.68236553

>>68236099
In that case why didn't Selenmama tell us what they told her?

>> No.68236572

>>68236481
Pomu and Kyo were probably in the graduation queue (kek) for months. I expect Selen's to be announced later this month or next.

>> No.68236666

>>68236386
selen is a character. they own it. they're still selling her voice packs despite the fact the person who plays her needed to beg for money to pay rent on twitter.

>> No.68236702

>gura dissapear from twitter for 2 months
>chumbids just hybernate

>selen dissapears for one month
>hell breaks loose

Weak dragoons.

>> No.68236726

>>68236702
gura always disappears, but it's the first time like this for Selen

>> No.68236792

>>68236702
That only shows how people's trust in Niji fell down a fucking cliff. They know weird shit is going on and how incompetent they are.

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>>68236099
But anon, mama was the dramanigger. Much bigger than anyone in this thread. Considering she was asking for a public disclosure there are three options
>They didn't tell her anything and told her to shut it
>They told her what happened and muzzled her
>They told her what happened and it's so damaging, she'd rather not get involved
and to top it off nothing is more dramatic than tweets disappearing without explanation

>> No.68237853

>>68236388
Jesus. How fucking incompetent can management be?

>> No.68238314

OWARI

>> No.68239075

https://twitter.com/dokibird/status/1754460581955051656

She is speaking out

>> No.68239243

Fuck off nijisanji.

>> No.68239261

>>68239075
Based, fuck Kurosanji Riku can eat a shit covered dick

>> No.68239396

>>68236388
>>68237853
that's not what the termination notice says

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>>68239075
SAY IT WITH ME
BLACK COMPANY

>> No.68240431

>>68219906
>in my opinion this is a PR attack being cordinated by Selen
I've been thinking about it since that RPR's tweet and honestly hope it's true, since it would not only mean she's alright but also fucking based and out for blood

>> No.68240618

>>68232471
Hololive is extremely scary cat with thing like that. There won't be any nijiEN collab for a long while after that, if ever with the chances of nijiEN to survive being this low at this point.

>> No.68241152

>>68236702
Gura was actually getting shit done. She has promotions, sponsorships and guest appearances to cover.

In contrast Selen has been literally silenced. Just look at her coffee vid. The closest that Holo to something like that was when Mind Craft got taken down, but even that was reuploaded.

Nijisanji EN is fucking incompetent.

>> No.68241752

>>68239396
>believing corpos

>> No.68241817

>>68241752
they have a lot of lawyers

>> No.68242596

>>68189475
Shit. Talking about burning Niji bridges

>> No.68243519

This is a nice thread that definitely aged well

>> No.68245212

>>68243519
THE FIRE RISES

>> No.68245570

>>68197742
Should we tell him? xD

>> No.68245644

i wonder who are the livers who bullied her like wtf

>> No.68245675

EXCELERATE !!!11!!!!!!

>> No.68245740

>>68245644
Millie

>> No.68248786

>>68245740
why? i've heard of the nijiclique thing but is there tangible proof? millie collabed recently with selen too

>> No.68249679

>>68190286
>they will be blacklisted from the entire vtuber industry
Absoloute nonsense, Hololive will see whatever is going with Niji as an "unrelated, internal matter" that has nothing to do with them, and there's no other agency on that level anyway.

>> No.68249806

>>68248786
The biggest bootlickers are the most suspicious right now, I'd say Millie and Luca look very suspect at the moment.

>> No.68249838

>>68248786
There is no clique. It's total anarchy.

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