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68324777 No.68324777 [Reply] [Original]

How do you fuck up this bad as a company!?

>> No.68325133

The bullying and the suicide attempt is what drove them to rebel.
If it had been another Zaion thing, where she was just calling out Niji's bullshit they would have continued to suck Tazumi's cock.

>> No.68325314

>>68324777
It has been like that for a year now I think. The reddit has always been against them ever since Zaion

>> No.68325500

Companies aren't actually supposed to be in direct control of their subreddits, though that doesn't seem to stop anyone.

More importantly, Niji doesn't seem to care about anything other than the Japan side of things, so they won't even notice unless the Selen stuff somehow results in a lawsuit; and if she qualifies as an employee under Canada law, it damn well might.

>> No.68325632

>>68325500
they don't have enough people to manage their talents, you think they have someone watching the reddit?

>> No.68325636

>>68325133
Serious question why do you believe selen over millie? Why do you trust pomu over enna? Why do you trust zaion over the roach?
Why is one niji lying but the other telling the truth? There’s proof of them all being in a discord shitting on hololive, proof they all stalk this board getting their feelings hurt, proof that they all have an ego, and proof they do everything clout. It’s like reverse hololive the moment they leave people try to paint them as good people when they were shitty before and while they were in the company

>> No.68325799

>>68325636
Selen wasn't part of the discord screenshot
Selen wasn't part of that shitty Secret GC stream.

>> No.68325833

>>68325636
sayu and roach are both saying the same sort of things. sayu just betrayed matara's trust by outing things she was told in private to back up her point.

>> No.68326029

>>68324777
I wonder what nijis think when they read these threads

>> No.68326164
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68326164

great what an amazing figure to look up to who will attempt sewerslide when things dont go her way

>> No.68326230

>>68325799
If you went down the list of dumb shit you could attribute at least 2 things to each name some names could probably get 4

>> No.68326641

>comic book villain starts a slur campaign against the crowdfunded princess
it's a battle on reddit's home turf

>> No.68326806

>>68324777
Most of it will be forgotten by next week and thenit will be just another day for them.

>> No.68326945

>>68326806
Nijisanji won't bounce back, dude. Phase connect, idol and vshojo will overtake it.
It's over.

>> No.68327695
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>>68325636
fine ill bite
>selen over millie
one is a menhera sometimes but loved niji and wanted niji to success in the west, organized multiple events despite having to jump through hoops because of shitty management
another is a best friend of a snake named enna, bootlicker and seems to be the type who doesn't afraid to throw someone under the bus to save her skin or the company (the deleted tweet after GC stream disaster, that tweet to selen, the whole lyrica mocca thing)
>pomu over enna
one loved niji so much that introducing pacman to en scene is already her goal during her maid days, her leaving not in happy way and that clip says alot
another is enna lmao i trust an arab selling a mystical lucky necklace for 800$ anytime over her
>zaion over the roach?
but both basicly saying niji is dogshit..
i watched both enna and millie back then because their duo collabs are kino but the good enna millie from 2021-2022 are dead or maybe they never really a good people in the first place

>> No.68327828

>>68324777
That 6.5k post is the top post of all time on that subreddit

>> No.68327887

>>68325314
>The reddit has always been against them ever since Zaion
Is this an out of season april fool's joke? The niji sub overwhelmingly dogpiled zaion in order to defend the company. Right now you can see a ton of people commenting with apologies for how they treated her at the time

>> No.68327963

>>68324777
>6hours ago
>Only 0.6k likes
Confirmed troons are vocal minority cretins

>> No.68328138

>>68327887
Revising history is the favorite pastime of Nijinigger.

>> No.68328234

>>68326806
It's everywhere and everyone who isn't a nip or bootlicker are shitting on them, openly calling them a black company and showing their support for Selen. The company itself isn't in danger since they have JP, but Nijisanji's reputation in the west is permanently tarnished and their name will always be synonymous with black company henceforth. There's no coming back from that. This has absolutely damaged the company.

>> No.68328245

>>68325314
Nah, even until yesterday the sub was in full ass kissing mode and any post ever suggestingbthat Selen may be suspended was downvoted to hell and spamed with "she is still recovering from her accident" cope. Mentions to the Zaion situation were also downvoted to hell

>> No.68328255

>>68325636
Millie and Enna both have always felt like snakes in the grass.

>> No.68328312

>>68327887
You weren't there, nor go there. I went there because nobody fucking clips NijiJP except the reddit shithole. That place is an actual cesspool of drama tourists, and always has been since Zaion. The comments would be full of people shitting on Niji, and it would only ever be active when Holo is mentioned

>> No.68328321

>>68325500
Tazumi is the head mod

>> No.68328363
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68328363

>>68327695
On a related note...

>> No.68328467

I've been watching their subreddit rebel all day, I find it even funnier because the sub is supposed to be officially moderated but apparently the intern they have on that is either too lazy or just doesn't care

>> No.68328550

>>68328467
Selen was the biggest non-moid NijiEN
Decent chance the "official" mod is an unpaid dragoon

>> No.68328552

>>68324777
As shit as this whole situation has been I’m glad to see how loyal dragoons are to their oshi
You guys are alright

>> No.68328808

>>68328312
I was there you schizo, and you're full of shit. Or you were swimming in the bottom comments with -100 karma and acting like it represents the people in that place

>> No.68330396

>>68325500
These days, reddit seems like the best option for any company to have a heavily moderated and mostly politically corret forum, while not taking any responsibility for what's going on there and having the freedom to just ignore any posts because "it's not an official thing"

>> No.68333196

>>68328363
What being in nijisanji does to a motherfucker

>> No.68334418

>>68328363
>that time niji management tried really hard to turn Riku into a meme like Yagoo by forcing their members to "meme" about him

>> No.68336499

>>68328552
i'm glad that the rest of the community is waking up, nijien is on fire and they can no longer deny it

>> No.68339163

>leddit

>> No.68339838

>>68327695
based

>> No.68339899

>>68328312
I was there too. youre wrong

>> No.68340015

>>68326806
I don't think theres coming back from this bro
just too many competitors salivating at the thought of getting their good talent and they seem intent on letting the english branch go down

>> No.68340031

>>68334418
Hey, I notice you haven't made your Tazumi tweet this week. We talked about this, I'm afraid I'm going to have to drop your cut to 1% as a warning.

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>>68326806
Because there won't be people to remember it.

>> No.68340111

>>68340068
Maria, Aia, and Feesh are innocent of literally all of this

>> No.68340157

>>68325636
>Zaion
>Mysta
>Nina
>Selen
They all have PTSD. I think it's a real problem.

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68340178

>>68340111
It's about sending a message.

>> No.68340365

>>68328312
I've said in the past /vt/ was one of the only places to defend Zaion because it's true. Reddit were absolutely against her. Even when she released her statement people barely shifted their opinion of her, but agreed that Nijisanji were kind of shitty, but not enough to stop watching them. Why you'd fabricate what the public perception was when it's so clearly known is beyond me.

>> No.68340460

>>68340068
Holyshit did rosemi drop below 500k?

>> No.68340541

>>68326806
I don't think you realise how muddy Nijisanji's reputation already was in the west before this whole situation.

>> No.68340616

>>68325636
>Zaion over the roach
They've both shat on Niji management. Wtf are you talking about?

>> No.68341853

>>68334418
>turn Riku into a meme
Technically, they succeded, just not the way they wanted.

>> No.68342594

>>68340111
>Feesh
>Innocent

>> No.68343694

>>68340111
You can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs

>> No.68344268

>>68343694
s-senator?

>> No.68345640
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>>68325314
>>68328312
Reddit absolutely hated Zaion until now.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Nijisanji/comments/11nm5xl/so_that_meanszaion_is_fired/
Just search Zaion on there, it's just dog-piling on her for stuff like the gaslighting thing especially.
Even right before this we had people getting mad at the idea of it being a stealth suspension on there.

>> No.68345930

>>68325636
>why do you believe
Because drama is fun and I want to see a corporation burn. I actually believe that Selen probably also participated in bullying and truth is somewhere in the middle. I also feel like despite playing a sad victim that got flushed down the toilet she is kinda wiggling her way towards more money more clout etc. Like imagine her voice tweets being sad but deep inside her being ecstatic over the money and following she will get now

>> No.68347610

>>68345930
Finally some fucking sense. The truth is always in the dirt and shit between everyone's actual sides.

>> No.68347642

>>68345930
For this to be true it means you're accusing her of being a sociopath of the highest degree you know that right?
Like regular people can't just cry at the drop of a hat like that.

>> No.68347728

>>68347642
>accusing her of being a sociopath of the highest degree you know that right?
Sounds like a typical asian woman that sees a lot of money in the air. It is nothing personnel kid.

>> No.68347769

>>68347728
Sometimes I forget how deep down the schizo and incel rabbit hole this place is lmao

>> No.68347785

>>68347642
>you're accusing her of being a sociopath

She is literally using self-harm as a weapon on twitter.

If it fucks like a duck...

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>>68347769
>implying Chinese people aren't predisposed to being sociopaths

>> No.68347993

Some of you are sounding an awful lot like the Jap corpo dick riders, right now.

>> No.68347995

>>68328552
I've never, ever, ever understood people that are only loyal to a character and not to the person behind it. Like, I understand that when someone reincarnates they might change their content in a way you don't enjoy anymore, and that's fair enough. But I've seen indies go corpo, corpos go indie, indies go corpo go back to indie, at the end of the day they're still the same person. Dropping someone or mourning an oshi that's still around in a different company solely because you miss the model is batshit insane.

>> No.68348048

>>68345930
yea, i'll wait for the story to develop because it's probably complicated as all fuck. I wish nothing but the best to Selen, and fuck anycolor, but I think people need to contextualize that a person attempting suicide over a song rejection reveals some level of mental illness already present in that person. and yea I know people will say it's not just the song, but at the end of the day almost no one who is sane would go to such extremes over their fucking job, even if workplace harassment is present

>> No.68348066

>>68347769
It was a joke. Actually serious answer is they are all actresses hired by a company to play a role. She got fired but she is still an actress at heart. You know what would be the easiest way to disprove what I am saying? If she sets a donation goal for herself that she will pocket to keep herself going for a month or two and donates the rest of the money she will get tommorow to some bullying mental illness charity or something. At that point she is clean. But nope. She is gonna rake in the money and keep it all for herself because... she is an actress that wants a paycheck.

>> No.68348087

>>68347995
you clearly don't understand coomers who only like them for their model's tiddies and not their personality

>> No.68348242

>>68348066
I agree with the general sentiment that the truth is always somewhere in the middle, but saying someone should donate what'll inevitably be their biggest payday for a long time when they already work in the extremely volatile industry that is streaming and literally just got fired two days ago is such a bad faith argument that I can't believe this is your "serious answer."

>> No.68348265

>>68325636
>believing in people that have a new drama every month over someone who had less than 5 controversies about her in their entire career
Truly a hard choice anon-kun, I think I'll have to use 2% of my brain power to figure this one out

>> No.68348357

>>68330396
Hololive have their employee moderating the subredit, I wonder how many vtuber companies do this

>> No.68348466

>>68348242
Well I gave you an example of what would convince me that she isn't a cynical actress. Maybe she could do it some other way but I can't think of any. As it stands I do believe she is more cynical than you think she is. Not only because of the nature of this job but also from what I have seen of her when I wasn't bored with vtubers yet. She was always very money focused because.... chinese.

>> No.68348525

>>68348357
You are on a board moderated by hololive anon... And I am not even memeing now.

>> No.68348563

>>68324777
Selen was one of those pikamee positive style figures that no one disliked. They know how much she contributed to the branch and how much she got fucked over.

>> No.68348611

>>68348066
The thing is that everyone that ever worked with Selen only refer to her as someone that is good and honest, for example
https://twitter.com/dreamydesu/status/1754536452845887582

So it turns out Selen has a good, clean name on herself with everyone, NijiEN as a company, not really.

>> No.68348865

>>68348525
That's true too. This place is a second reddit after all.

>> No.68349084

>>68348611
i don't think that she's a cynical sociopath staging this bullshit for money or to get out of a contract. but it's also clear that she probably has some deep mental shit going on regardless of work issues. and if she attempted suicide recently, she may not be in the best state of mind to assess things rationally and pragmatically right now. i doubt it's as simple as "X bad, Y good". this will all probably end up in a long legal battle

>> No.68349112

>>68325314
>The reddit has always been against them ever since Zaion
What the fuck are you talking about? Zaion was persona non grata fucking everywhere until literally yesterday. Fuck you.

Jesus, thinking that the same people that hated Zaion are willing to give NOW Sayu a chance makes me fucking furious. Fucking assholes.

>> No.68350133

>>68349112
>Zaion was persona non grata fucking everywhere until literally yesterday
NTA, but look at the comments sections of "news" channels like FalseEyeD. Zaion support (or at least Niji management hate) has been a common opinion, maybe even the prevailing opinion, for quite some time.
>8 months ago
Holy shit, time flies.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQTGhW6Qzlc

>> No.68350290

>>68350133
Dramatubers and a handful of threads /here/ don't really matter that much when the general public fucking hates you

>> No.68350419

>>68324777
Straw that broke the camel's back. So many rumors going around, bad news confirmed by ex members, Selen being hospitalized with an attempted suicide was the final straw.

>> No.68350540

>>68326029
Reminds me of when Yugo got terminated and they all vagueposted during his return karaoke stream

>> No.68350566

>>68328363
Apostrophy status?
Did management write that tweet aswell all those years ago?

>> No.68350663

>>68340111
Maria was part of the clique and feesh deserves it for being a retarded piece of shit.

>> No.68350729

>>68350133
>quite some time
Everyone was shitting on her when she was terminated, the narrative of her being right all along only changed when this giant wave of graduations/terminations/suspentions started popping off.

>> No.68350906

>>68347843
>Amerimutts thinking ethnicity is inherently racial and can't be cultural

Wow, who would have seen that coming?

>> No.68350972

>>68324777
Because America audiences side with the talent rather than the Corpo, unlike the Japanese.

>> No.68350992

>>68324777
This will be forgotten in weeks
>meh

>> No.68351039

>>68350729
>the narrative of her being right all along only changed when this giant wave of graduations/terminations/suspentions started popping off
>"Maybe we were wrong about Zaion, I don't know"
Nijisanji trying to destroy her career over a Deez Nuts joke should have been enough of a red flag to anyone with half a brain.

>> No.68351125

>>68340460
Yes, she’s at 499 000 right now.

>> No.68351137

>>68350290
>the general public
Meaning who? The perpetually seething randos on Twitter, served to you by an algorithm that specifically prioritizes seethe? The subreddit on a site specifically designed to reward and showcase groupthink? Neither is a good indicator of how most humans actually think and feel.

The dramatuber audiences are a decent bellwether for general sentiment across the core EN fanbase that actually watches and enjoys streams.

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>>68348048
Selen has been open about having Borderline Personality Disorder

>> No.68351177

>>68348066
Yeah, I'd want a paycheck too after Nijisanji tried to bleed me dry for over a month after spending tens of thousands of dollars out of my own pocket on that shitstain of a company. Being a cynical thinker doesn't make you a critical one, does it, chucklefuck?

>> No.68351206

>>68325636
Because in Selens case the official statements don't add up. Especially the perm stuff is shady AF, and makes it easy to believe Selen that bullying or some kind of sabotage was happening.
So you have one side that gets caught in blatant lies/making up shit, and the other side that did not get caught in anything... so you believe the side that did not lie to your face yet.

>> No.68351255

>>68351137
>Meaning who?
The ones who participate in the community, share clips and buy merch.

>The dramatuber audiences are a decent bellwether for general sentiment across the core EN fanbase that actually watches and enjoys streams.
Nope, only dramafags watch them.

>> No.68351468

>>68325636
>Why don't you believe the company that has been caught time and time again abusing the talents and throwing them under the bus to cover its own ass?
Selen and Pomu have proved plenty of times that they are good and trustworthy people. Millie is at best a tone deaf retard and Enna is a fucking cunt. And Zaion and Nina said the same exact thing.

>> No.68352596

>>68325636
I'd believe a half-eaten lettuce over Millie and Enna, anon.

>> No.68352642

>>68351255
Those aren't separate sets of people, unless you think total ignorance of corpo politics is the bar for not being a dramafag.

Also, it's worth noting that False is substantially different from a Khyo or Rev or Hei. He's reports on everyone and everything, whether good, bad, or trivial. People watch him not for drama or culture war shit, but because combing through Twitter to stay up-to-date on vtuber culture at large is fucking miserable. People are picking their poisons, and compared to Twitter, he's the lesser evil by far. That's not a drama-centric channel or audience.

>> No.68352730

>>68324777
I'm getting tired with this bitch. Can we all just move on? She literally graduate and not suicidal at all.
>T. general vtuber shiposter enjoyer

>> No.68352855

>>68352730
Learn English

>> No.68353053

>>68352855
Yeah I will learn properly if Selen do the dogeza in front of Riku.

>> No.68353226

>>68351167
Anon, all the good ones have BPD. All of them. It's what makes them entertaining.

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>>68340068
>Rosemi dropped back under 500k

>> No.68353595

>>68325133
This is also why it was retarded of them to fire her. They could have just given her a 10 month suspension and let her agree to quit on her own and "amiably graduate". Trying to throw their weight around was completely fucking retarded.

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>>68324777
How did you think they fucked up this hard, anon? They are just THAT stupid.
>>68325636
Are you for real?

>> No.68353754

>>68325636
>millie
>enna
you have zero brain cells if you actually believe anything coming out of their mouths

>> No.68353885

>>68353754
You have zero brain cells and humanity if you think that getting fired from a job is not a two way problem.

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>>68350566
OH SHIT, I didn't even notice that! I hope some autist out there can compile these - won't be me though.

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>>68328363
This did not age well.

>> No.68354358

>>68324777
Nijisanji has lost the mandate of heaven

>> No.68354402

>>68324777
It's hilarious seeing 4chan buttering up to reddit finding them based when they just usually love shit talking the site and calling everyone who doesn't agree with them a redditor.

>> No.68354439

>>68328552
Most of us have always hated Niji since the Zaion incident. Our Oshi was the only thing keeping us there.

>> No.68354517

>>68354358
>lost???
they never had it

>> No.68354527

>>68325636
I can't believe you are asking why people trust Pomu over Enna let alone the other shit. Are you delusional?

>> No.68354611

>>68340068
The mass graduation effect is finally taking its tole.

More people need to drop Millie and Enna for them to finally get a message.

>> No.68354618

>>68354402
It's almost like people like others who agree with them regardless of which gay porn platform they use.

>> No.68354942

>>68324777
When you’re a woke ESG company with eclusively diversity hires and an African in a top position and even reddit turns on you, then you know you’ve fucked up beyond repair.

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>>68324777
REMINDER:
SHE'S MAD CAUSE SHE CAN'T GET THE GRADUATION MONEY
>ORA ORA ORA ORA

>> No.68355369

>>68348466
Get your mind out of the gutter, anon. No need to make dumb conspiracy theories based on no real info

>> No.68355405

>>68353516
Wose..

>> No.68355536

>>68354202
>won't be me though
>won't
Hello there, Niji employee.

>> No.68355572

>>68351167
>women get their first introspection and decide it must be a disease

>> No.68355591

>>68353885
Yeah, riiiight. Lick their shoes some more, NDF-kun

>> No.68355801

>>68325636
>Serious question why do you believe selen over millie?
There are too many inconsistencies with the Nijisanji story on why Selen couldn't get permissions for a cover song that was in development hell for almost a year. When you add the fake tweet that her manager posted during her suspension there is reason to doubt management. Several artists have come forward to defend Selen because she would pay them for her projects when her own employer would ignore their requests.

Japanese companies are notorious for allowing bullying of employees so it sounds like management allowed NijiEN to become a toxic workplace. When so many livers are quitting this goes beyond Selen and indicates the entire branch is falling apart.

>> No.68355827

>>68347610
You are not intelligent and le both sides are wrong -take just makes you an ignorant coward.

>> No.68355867

>>68355591
I will lick your mom's asshole tonight :)

>> No.68355924

>>68347785
>yeah we drove you to trying to kill yourself but if you mention it you're the bad guy

>> No.68355929

>>68355591
I hope you don't get a decent job in the future. Learned your lesson Selen.

>> No.68355969

>>68348048
>a person attempting suicide over a song rejection
That was obviously just the last straw, have you been paying attention at all, sister?

>> No.68356189

>>68355369
It is all true and it is literally me.

>> No.68356257

>>68348048
A song which cost her up to 15k and which she worked on for several years while constantly getting beat down and handicapped by management and her fellow talents.
Which management then decided to remove for no other reason than to spite her.
Sure, ”just a song”.

>> No.68356330

>>68327695
>who doesn't afraid

>> No.68356491

>>68353885
That's the most retarded take I've seen in a while. In my experience being fired is literally never ever ever a two way problem, it's always either company getting rid of drooling idiots or powertripping management shooting itself in a foot over minor problem. Any two-way problem usually results in "left our company to find new opportunities in life" because neither side wants to air laundry.

>> No.68356511

>>68355969
This. If you paid attention to Selen over 2023 it seemed like there were multiple breaking points. Like not being allowed to organize tournaments for a period of time, having to bail her employer out of trouble by giving $5000 away as a prize, having to watch as her coworkers got Sanrio/Gamer merch that she always wanted, and these are just public incidents. We don't know what else happened behind the scenes.

>> No.68356537

>>68348066
>streamer didn't hit my arbitrary moving goalposts
>she must be evil
You're retarded anon.

>> No.68356678

>>68356330
anon...

>> No.68356720

>>68347610
>Finally some fucking sense. The truth is always in the dirt and shit between everyone's actual sides.
I'm going to rob a man at gunpoint and you'd better be defending me then, dumbass

>> No.68356787

>>68345640
Reddit is for total faggots so it makes sense that they don't have an ounce of integrity. Never humor opinionated flipfloppers.

>> No.68356911

>>68356491
>"Never ever a two way problem" LMAO. Got fired 'cause in the end
-she's deal breaker
-getting rid of the idiots(like you said)
-"Powertripping" No this is not the case here (her being apeshit to X and promoting illegal)
But you still believed to the Niji statement that she got bullied by other livers. Oh yeah!
>you talking about resignation Anon.
Not fan of defending the corporate thingy but your dead dragon is not a saint too.

>> No.68356919

>>68356537
Trusting a woman is dumb. Trusting a woman that doesn't even know you exist and wants your money is absolutely retarded. You need to grow up and stop being naive before you can call anyone other than you retarded.

>> No.68357511

>>68325636
Honest answer, they have credibility and good will. Plus the masses love the underdog.

Tho with Zaion vs Nina there really isn't a clear winner.

>> No.68358790

>>68328312
>I went there because nobody fucking clips NijiJP
Learn Japanese.

>> No.68358850

>>68325636
The truth in this shit is always somewhere in the middle, this joint is just so far on the 'fuck Niji' wagon that they don't care to admit that.

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>>68326029
we now know there's a graduation queue so some are going to be on her side though. the others? probably close to the bootlicking of JP Nijifags to the termination

>> No.68359160

>>68325636
Because of the consistency between the statements of everyone who has been terminated by or left Nijisanji. There's commonalities in all their stories. Such commonalities include:

>Toxic workplace, harassment, bullying, poor working conditions
>unprofessional management that torpedos expensive projects at best because they're incompetent, and at worst because they don't like a given Liver and want to fuck with them
>very low pay
>formation of vicious cliques that terrorize/harass other employees

Over a year ago, when it was just Zaion saying this stuff, it could be dismissed as one menhera with a grudge. But with the parade of high profile graduations, it's become impossible to handwave these claims away anymore because others have echoed some of them or all of them.

And frankly, the top earners and stars of a company don't all walk out in the space of a year unless something is extremely wrong. When this has happened at other vTuber companies, it's always been a sign of major distress.

So at this point management claims simply aren't credible anymore, which is why the NDF can't protect the company anymore.

>> No.68359198

>>68325636
>selen over millie
Because one was a tomboy who just wanted to play games and the other is the corpo lapdog who won't say anything bad about kurosanji
>pomu over enna
Really? Pomu's is a bundle of joy who really enjoyed her work despite all the managerial setbacks. She has an actually likeable personality and is just nice all around. Enna is the opposite. She's got a nasty personality and behaves like a retard. I could forgive her if she tried to change but it only got worse over time. Her pinned tweet singing Hahahaha hours before Selen's termination and a couple weeks before tweeting out that this is her best year really sealed the deal on that she will never change.
>Zaion over cockroach
Simple. Sayu is not an insensitive whore like the cockroach. Matara is an unironic libtard jew who thinks communism is good. I pray to God that her liver fails and she dies. As a child of Soviet immigrants to America, I wish death upon those who think that communism is any good.

>> No.68359261

>nijiniggers only oshi the company!
>get proven wrong time after time after time again
Do Filipinx and indog sisters not get tired of being retarded?

>> No.68359490

>>68334418
You can't just force a Yagoo Ceo meme has to happen naturally thanks to the Subaru. It works for phase connect since fishman gets bullied by his own girls constantly https://youtu.be/KpLONXBV48U

>> No.68360111

>>68325636
>Zaion over the Roach
Zaion and Matara have basically said the same stuff, Matara just isn't a fan of the way Sayu went about it and some of the things she revealed.

>> No.68360355

>Sayu revealed that nearly all of the people at the company are Japs that doesn't know English
Sayu might actually get assassins send after her at this point

>> No.68360441

>>68360355
>implying that the assassin-sending JOPs know and care that they were outed as JOPs

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>>68360355
>I wonder if I should say this...
>...well, it'll be fine
>probably
SAYU PLEASE YOU DUMB RETARD SHUT THE FUCK UP DON'T PUT A TARGET ON YOUR BACK AND MARRY ME I LOVE YOU SO MUCH YOU CUNNY HAG

>> No.68361172

>>68359028
>I belong to a company
I know it's just the translation, but god that wording never ceases to unsettle me.

>> No.68361271

>>68360355
>the assassins can't reach her house because they can't read the map

>> No.68361691

>>68360355
If anything its just incredible how the situation progressively gets worse for Anycolor. Its good that this finally caught up with them and that they have to take accountability for once, but its baffling how the situation was so much worse than what most rrats assumed.

>> No.68362500

>>68349084
Given how vtubers seem to be universally closeted neets, it's likely that she was immersed in this completely for the entire time she's been at Nijisanji. Suicide is often the recourse when people don't have context, everything feels like it's falling apart and terrible and nothing will ever be good again. This particular type of suicide attempt doesn't happen if you have other outlets and a greater 'world' to give context to what's happening at work.

So you're probably right in that she has issues, but it's unlikely to be anything severe. All you need for a suicide attempt is an average neet + social ostracization from a social group just within reach + harsh managers. That's the same formula for the typical office worker suicide.

>> No.68363080

>>68360670
You'll dump her when she becomes an offline menhera. That, or get Mafumafu'd

>> No.68363095

>>68356911
>your dead dragon is not a saint too.
Nobody is, that's not the point and you know it.
>deflecting and assuming all the way through the post
I don't care which side you are on, whether you believe that management was right or not, pick whichever you like, literally the only thing I care in that post is you being retard and going "it's not that one-sided guys" when it's literally that one-sided

>> No.68363100

>>68359160
>Over a year ago, when it was just Zaion saying this stuff, it could be dismissed as one menhera with a grudge.
What surprised me at that time was that Zaion has was pretty professional about it. She was able to drop the bratty personality to speak well and not just throw accusations anywhere she could or go 'woe-is-me'.

>> No.68363245

>>68355536
You can`t prove I`m a Niji employee.

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>>68328363

>> No.68363913

>>68325636
>pomu over enna
Here's your receipt aloucuck
>>/vt/thread/67140964#p67154481

>> No.68364118

>>68363100
This is why I think it got some traction. Obviously there were people who believed (or "believed") it just to stir shit, but it's clear even at the start, before the graduation parade really began, that it had traction outside the usual troublemakers.

>> No.68364405

>>68324777
ego

>> No.68364633

>>68363100
To be fair, her original document was a lot longer and had all the juicy details of the real shitty stuff, but she thought better about it and decided to remove it to protect herself

>> No.68364932

>>68364633
thought better about it = Afraid of getting a lawsuit while being in debt

>> No.68365276

>>68363913
Most of those seem to be anons just not liking Enna's opinions on things. If you dont like Enna talking about her virginity or Jesus on stream sure, dislike her content but you cant really claim she is a bad person. Do you have actual proof of Enna doing actual immoral stuff?

>> No.68365778

>>68364932
yes anon, that contitutes thinking better about it.

>> No.68365821

>>68324777
This will never happen in the holo subreddit even to the most loved holomem.
too much of a corpo slave to rebel.

>> No.68365924

>>68365821
that's what happens when your company is not a shithole, go figure.

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>>68365924
This post. On cue.
Well done.

>> No.68366220

>>68366049
You sure showed that strawman!

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>>68364118
>but it's clear even at the start, before the graduation parade really began, that it had traction outside the usual troublemakers
I never watched Zaion because her schedule was fucking horrible for me, so I didn't pay that much attention to her drama. Then I saw her termination announcement, and the list of sins was so fucking ridiculous that I thought it had to be some kind of weird joke. Nah, it was just Niji being absolute trash.

I have been a Sayufag since then.

>> No.68366323

>>68366049
You will not find a single person on earth shitting on Mel, at best you'll find people saying what she did was stupid. Your whataboutism is based on your headcanon because you can't find anything tangible. Try again.

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>>68345640
If only they knew back then.

>> No.68367292

>>68364633
Right, she made an intelligent decision instead of throwing a bitch fit and kept it up. Pleasantly surprised.

>> No.68367620

>>68366323
17 year olds who post on reddit communist forums can't comprehend the concept that not all companies are the identical, comically evil image they have been told they are by their fellow revolutionaries.

>> No.68367709

>>68348048
Finding yourself 15k in the hole because managament fucked you and you are now in danger of losing your only source of income since the same management are trying to push you out the door would be more than a simple song rejection.

>> No.68367742

>>68367620
I'm still on the side that corporations are shit until proven otherwise, but also that anon is retarded if he thinks people wouldn't revolt if Pekora, Suisei, Marine, Fubuki, Gura, Miko, Korone, Subaru, etc got fired for similarly bullshit reasons Selen did.

>> No.68370690

>>68367709
If you werent so stupid like Selen doing things on her on way. Why you even spend 15k for a cover. Kind of stupid to be honest.

>> No.68370776

>>68370690
>Why you even spend 15k for a cover.
Do you have ANY idea how much it costs to produce even a cover with an MV that's just a drawing moving around with lyrics? Any fucking idea at all?

>> No.68370850

>>68363095
IT IS ONE SIDED FOR PEOPLE LIKE YOU. CAUSE YOU ARE CLOSE MINDED. SELEN CAN'T EVEN DEFEND HERSELF IN THE MV CAUSE SHE'S IN THE WRONG TOO FOR UPLOADING SUCH CONTENT WITH NO APPROVAL.

>> No.68371050

>>68370850
>management is asked to handle the permissions
>they do jack shit for over 15 months
>they get all the names wrong
>they don't pay the people involved
>people involved testify that it was selen who in the end had to get their explicit approval and pay for their services
>perms are now explicitly consented
>selen did in a few weeks what management couldn't do in over a year
>YOU DID NOT FOLLOW -OUR- PROTOCOL FOR PERMS YOU SHALL DIE NOW HOW DARE YOU DISRESPECT THE NIJI OVERLORDS
you're like if some retard decided to defend a maths teacher who failed a math student for getting the right answer without using the teacher's preferred shitty method.

>> No.68371204

>>68370776
I know it cost 50k for a basic animation of some dude not-fucking the girl from Hazbin Hotel

>> No.68371292

>>68370776
Huh? I'm asking why she's so retarded to spend an expensive MV knowing she doesn't have any funds to survive for the next of the month. Then rush it to fucked up so badly that cause her some suspension then termination. So stupid desu. Fucking limiting her timeframe when she can just delay the release of the song, she's so fucking crazy.

>> No.68371297

>>68371050
She got all the external perms that mattered, she just didn't get Nina and Mysta's perms because Nina and Mysta are fucking dead characters. Remember, the termination letter specifies internal perm problems, not external.

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How likely is it that they collab?

>> No.68371389

>>68371050
Hi Selen. Hope you properly addresses the issue Onegai. Instead of being salty bitch to your ex-coworker and ex-friends I guess.

>> No.68371481

>>68371389
>ex-friends
>friends
Nijiniggers still fall for the "I LOVE MY NIJI FAMILY" bullshit? Worse still they try to make other people buy it.

>> No.68371575

>>68371292
expectation:
>spend 15k on a passion project
>release it
>fans are happy
>you are happy
>stream for a few weeks to gain enough funds to sustain yourself
reality:
>spend 15k on a passion project
>management won't stop putting barriers on it nor slacking on doing their job
>end up forcing her to delete it for bullshit reasons
>they suspend you
>can't earn any money at all now

>> No.68371865

>>68371481
>outing that this faggot doesn't watch any streams of an corporate vtuber.
Okay x-tard have it to your delusional way.

>> No.68375927

>>68324777 (checked)
impressive digits but if you're so obsessed with what's happening on reddit why don't you go post there instead?

>> No.68375980

>>68371313
100%, just have to be patient

>> No.68378016

>>68324777
KWAB

>> No.68378256

>>68348865
Fewer nonces /here/, tho

>> No.68378759

>>68328467
their 1 mod is probably an intern paid for 5 hours a week if the job postings on anycolor's site is any indication

>> No.68379067

>>68350133
saying dramatubers supported her is no the argument you think it is

>> No.68380871

>>68353595
The problem there is they weren't paying Selen and her contract didn't let her earn money, so of course they forced Selen's hand to go hard ball because of their faggotry.

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