What even this company

[Anonymous No.]

Lily confirmed giving her oky for the song back in 2022

[Anonymous No.]

>>68326671
>2232 likes

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>>68326671
>even the big dog ecelebs are standing up for her
How over can this possibly get for Niji? The only thing missing is Asmongold talking about it.

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>>68326671
"No, not yet" is niji management's default response to any talent project. Even if you have full permission and are fully capable of producing and releasing it yourself... You just can't, okay!?

[Anonymous No.]

>>68326671
Yeah, we know. Literally on the day itself, we knew, confirmed by dragoons. Pretty cold and calculated message overall by Lily here though. Pussy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68327010
>you dare release it still?
>privates it
>15k wasted

[Anonymous No.]

>>68326942
>LilyPichu
>big
Mid tier at best. Ironmouse is bigger than her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68326671
Lily's ok was not the problem
one of her coworkers she put in the video complained about being put in it

[Anonymous No.]

>>68327022
Not her monkey, not her circus. She simply clarified her role.

[Anonymous No.]

She used imagery of graduated talents and they got butthurt about it. That's literally all it was kek.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68327167
More likely management decided they like the graduated livers being in it, and the permissions from the talents was an excuse

[Anonymous No.]

>>68326942
Asmon will 100% talk about this within the week, and I bet someone from Trash Taste will mention it, and maybe even Ludwig. He covered Rushia after all.

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>>68327144
Lily is not midtier popularity she has a lot of clout, dating that Michael Reeves guy, in OTV so Pokimane clout, in the flesh world stream noombers aren't the only thing.
This looks really bad for Niji because people violently defend Lily

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>>68327237
can't wait for the mogul mail video

[Anonymous No.]

>>68327144
In body mass maybe.

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>>68327239
I think Lily kinda has fallen off since her peak but shes still respected

[Anonymous No.]

>>68327239
Lily gets like 1k ccv. People know her name but that’s it

[Anonymous No.]

>>68326807
>posted 12min ago
retarded

[Anonymous No.]

>>68327230
I don't think so, as other MVs have featured graduates Mysta and Nina.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68327405
Not now numbermonkey.

[Anonymous No.]

None of this matters. As long as the japs keep sucking off anycolor, nothing will change. Just read the comments under the jp version of the termination and its 100% in favor of anycolor and that everyone complaining in english is lawless westerner. The only thing that really matters is how many other livers decide to stay or go. If no one else in EN leaves then it'll chug along like always.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68327405
Yeah they know her name so someone who doesn't even watch her will still see that tweet and hate Nijisanji even more as they dared to fuck with an asian woman on Twitch

[Anonymous No.]

>>68326671
Isn’t the reason for her MV getting taken down due to the pony?

[Anonymous No.]

Don't you people start, I know exactly how much you people shit on Lilypichu when people were comparing her to Gura in 2020.
>niiiiiijifaaa-
No I suffered in /hlgg/ back then with the rest of you. There's other things you can use to shit on Kurocolor today.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68327453
>If no one else in EN leaves
All the Nijis posting as usual after Selen tweeted about being in the hospital for suicide was so bleak

[Anonymous No.]

>>68326671
oh so that was Lily's, i thought the title seemed familiar

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>>68327428
search 2232 in archives, retard

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>>68327453
I find it hard to imagine that the attempted suicide of one of the most well respected colleagues and the entire community falling apart wouldn't affect morale of other EN members. I'd be shocked to see no more graduations in the near future.

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>>68327239
>in OTV so Pokimane clout
Pokimane left OTV. She's also left Twitch, and now streams on YouTube.
OTV has lost all of its clout, replaced by Asmon's OTK as the premier clique of Twitch.

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>>68327167
>one of her coworkers she put in the video complained about being put in it
lol that "bitch" really hates her I wonder if it is more than one tho

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>>68327629
When someone outside the clique tries to kill themselves or gets completely removed it makes everyone in the clique happier.

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>>68327167
>one of her coworkers she put in the video complained about being put in it
Inb4 da rose was the bully all along.

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>>68326942
>>68327237
You apparently don’t watch vtubers, you obviously don’t watch flesh streamers seriously what do you people do here? These people aren’t big by any stretch of the imagination except maybe Asmon in the gaming sphere and even then he’s only big by their standards

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>>68327896
Enna seems quite pleased.

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>>68327967
Ludwig is not big? Most subbed on twitch of all time for a long time?

[Anonymous No.]

>>68327625
oh, i got it now
sorry i have slow brain
thank you retarded

[Anonymous No.]

>>68327428
2434 is "Ni-ji-san-ji
but anons sometimes use the cuter version 2232 "ni-ni-san-ni"

[Anonymous No.]

Then cancel Anycolour on twitter or reddit and kick them out from the western industry. You can't get any more attentions from this board. Stop posting this many garbage threads over and over again. Many of them are stupid twitter/reddit screenshot threads.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68327629
I don’t watch Selen and don’t care for her but I hope she didn’t actually try to off herself. Not for any moral reason it’s just really pathetic to do that for attention.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68328040
No mid tier at best. You’re big when you influenced youtube/twitch culture, you’re big when you become an actual celebrity through those platforms.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68327927
FUCK OFF THAT'S MY WIFE! 0% it's her!
also they're supposed to have a VCR GTA collab stream the next day before longneck got suspended

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>>68327550
>every individual on /vt/ has the same opinion on the same individual
This collectivist Jap logic is what led us into this mess

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>>68328311
It’s the weirdest shit I’ve ever seen they take something from here post it on Twitter and Reddit then bring it back to make a catalog about it. Worst part is it’s 90% tourist. The fact that shit from 2022 and early 2023 is news to them is insane

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>>68328311
>>68328723
What's the matter, NDF? Your defenders are getting tired?

[Anonymous No.]

>>68328723
This is what happens when gookmoot refuses to make a proper eceleb board

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>>68328366
She did and Nijisanji was phone calling her parents going "Hey your daughter is lying about our respected brand" while she had tubes down her throat in the hospital

[Anonymous No.]

I actually don't get why Niji would ever say 'no' when literally every other person gave permission

[Anonymous No.]

>>68329439
Yeah, but she didn't go through the "proper channels"

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>>68326807
She still lives on.

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>>68329641
The proper channels being "I don't fucking know how to type this person's name so let me fumble it three times and then give up and say no, you don't have permissions for this".

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>>68328366
At the very least she attempted, which is why she was at a hospital without access to her phone. Whether that means she actually went through with it and failed or if she got set up for it and someone intervened we don't know.

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>>68329439
It is because of it featuring Mysta and Kyo, who refused to give Selen permission

[Anonymous No.]

Poor Vivi had one of her biggest streams recently with Tekken. Girl picked the worst time to jump aboard

[Anonymous No.]

>>68329439
It wasn't perms for the song but because the video featured graduated people

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>>68326671
>lilypichu
grifter whore

[Anonymous No.]

>>68326671
>L-Lily is ba--
No.

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>>68329439
If you want the schizo answer it was all a trick to make her rope. This helps them because they are incompetent or something
If you want the real answer it’s because the Japanese aren’t normal. If you’ve watched hololive for longer than a month on multiple occasions you’d see them delay or just memory hole shit. We’re going on 2 years without Gura’s new original, 3 years without reflect jazz, 2 years for an official release of bae’s play dice remix, nearly 2 years of kronii new original and so many covers on the cutting room floor such as, but not limited to gura’s Queen cover, an unnamed English cover by mumei?, a miku cover that got handed over to the homos after a year of trying, and many more

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>>68326671
in another timeline where this girl didn't get involved with OTV, I think she could've been one of the top EN chuuba

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>>68330337
rent free

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>>68330337
look, she is only based for sticking up for selen

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>>68329878
It means she’s an attention seeker and it’s pathetic. Doesn’t anyone have respect for themselves

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>>68330349
Yea I disagree >>68330337

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>>68330335
There actually are new Gura's and Kronii's originals, both of them sang those at Connect the World. Cover just won't finish the MVs to let the songs officially release.

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>>68330337
There's a chad self and a virgin self in all of us.

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>>68330809
>in another timeline where this girl didn't get involved with OTV
and sure, even if that's her view, you can find a lot of worse stuff from the big RM and PL, I don't see your point

[Anonymous No.]

>>68330337
Based human rights supporter

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>>68330866
How do you think I knew they existed? What do you think the context of the post was?

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>>68330941
>>68330917
>>68330470
>trans rights are VAZED ACTUALLY!!!

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>>68330941
You don’t get big talking about saying mental illness is normal

[Anonymous No.]

>>68327010
How can managers reach this fucking level of worthless?
They are actively doing the opposite of their intended job at this point!

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>>68326671
>Sinks with his own troon and SJW audience.
Like clockwork.

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>>68330337
Disgusting

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>>68329890
Nice try, Millie.

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>>68327453
An EN branch filled with people that stream in English means that you need an audience that understand English. You think those JP fans watch EN streams? Enough to sustain the branch if it starts bleeding out EN viewers?

[Anonymous No.]

>>68326671
She's a Hasan floozy so I don't really see her as a human being.

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>>68328565
Who fits that in your eyes anon?

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>>68327237
Has Connor not already talked about it? He loves ranting about vtuber corpos being satan. Even in cases where the talent is obviously in the wrong and this isn't one of those cases.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68332630
Shut the fuck up Millie

[Anonymous No.]

>>68332630
With how much of a sinking ship he is lately we can only hope he takes all his orbiters down with him

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[Anonymous No.]

>>68332903
I'd have a hard time believing Millie herself doesn't love Hasan

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>>68326671
"Perms" wasn't external ones. It was internal ones. They wanted her to remove Nina and Mysta

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>>68327167
I Imagine it went like this
>Selen ask her coworker to be in the video
>the said coworker said okay
>selen went and got perms herself because the company is too slow.
>company wasnt happy about this
>pulled the" The characters in this video is our IP and we will not allow you to post this until you go thru the proper procedures"
>Selen posts it anyway

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>>68329439
Actual targeted harassment to make her miserable. That was the only goal. They got enjoyment out of abuse

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>>68327453
Things that Niji told the JOPs -
> Selen was hard to work with right from debut and we got multiple complaints about her misbehavior from other livers
> Selen didn't pay artists on time (same as EN)
> Selen infringed on our copyright (the MV)
> Selen didn't have perms for the MV to be released

Things JOPs don't know about Niji -
> NijiEN discord leak
> The AR Live announcement and it's subsequent cancellation
> Livers shitting on the AR live cancellation and directly calling out the "COVID" excuse
> The whole Zaion termination and her response to it
> Stealth suspensions being confirmed
> Nina and Mysta shitting on management after getting into VShojo
> Pomu's status as a Mito-like figure in EN and how one of her biggest dreams was crushed before she decided to graduate
> Selen paid for the whole MV with zero help or funding from management
> Selen was in talks with management and the song owners for over a year getting all the permissions required
> Livers do not get their play buttons sent to them

Things JOPs don't know OR care about -
> NijiEN being snubbed from Nijifes
> graduations from ex-ID and ex-KR

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>>68333509
Well, and Nina and Mysta being in it. Which we all assumed was the issue back in Dec

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>>68335193
Just wanna poke at some of these
>Livers shitting on the AR live cancellation and directly calling out the "COVID" excuse
That made the rounds, but because Japanese society is the way it is, claiming sickness, ESPECIALLY the coof, is always deemed as impossible to push against. It's literally the "I got death threats so you can't say anything bad about me now" of the nipponese world.
>Stealth suspensions being confirmed
They've known about this for years because it's been a practice across pretty much every company from day 1. It's another "don't be the nail that sticks out" thing because I know for a fact when someone graduates for medical leave/studies/family caught them 50% of their fans of their fans don't believe them in private.
>Selen was in talks with management and the song owners for over a year getting all the permissions required
To be fair, this one is still a breaking news scenario.

Otherwise you're spot on. I'd say move the "Pomu is the OG" and "Selen paid out of pocket" parts to the "they don't care about" section too.

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>>68327453
Nah, nijien is donezo. Whether the current members leave or not isn't the whole picture.
There were a lot of rumors swirling in the indie community about the place having a bullying problem and being awful to work in. Then nijien in their absolute retardation decided to outright confirm the truth of those rumors themselves.

Nijien is probably going to collapse very quickly now as they will bleed viewers and members make their way to the door as fast as they can. But what's really going to kill them is the fact they will no longer be able to find hires.
This was already happening. everyone has noted how the last three waves left almost no impact and are floundering, and some of them are halfway decent talents. the problem is just going to get unsalvable now as they won't be able to hire anyone worth a damn so the brand is going to become mud and the branch will eventually be forced to integrate into the main one and die off like kr and id.

They're finished. what some retarded JOPs think is irrelevant at this point.

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>>68326671
Not to be NDF but they said in their list of unforgivable selen sins that they had a problem with the video, not the song and mentioned other livers. Afaik even the producer of this song gave her permission and those are the only two people you need permission from.

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>>68331161
rent free

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>>68330737
People like you who don't have the capacity to understand depression are disturbing. The complete and total lack of empathy to only be able to view suicide or attempted suicide through the lens of "attention seeking" quickly and immediately demonstrates to anyone you convey it to that you have very minimal emotional intelligence.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68336265
NTA obviously. This was posted in Doki's bread and I thought it was a good description
>>68318313

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>>68335193
https://finance.yahoo.co.jp/cm/message/1835700/e0f1c8592aa7c340a07c2f60d41004ca
anyone looking at anycolor's yahoo finance page? The comments are mostly attributing the dip to the selen situation, and many are expressing uncertainty about the future of their investments and think that the overseas expansion project is now hopeless.

also niji defense force gets massively downvoted lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>68336632
That's a good quote. Thanks for linking.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68330337
I don't know how to tell you this but 90% of the streamers you know are liberal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68336727
Anon, don't! You'll break his heart.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68336690
>Virtual talent academy(VTA)
Are you sure that Nijisanji have this department and not just in name only?

[Anonymous No.]

>>68335941
I don't think it'll collapse, the ones who have embedded themselves in it will stick it out forever even as it dwindles. But it's in the kind of death spiral that doesn't usually happen to vtuber companies, since the ones that fail are usually small enterprises that just run out of money or have everyone quit one day. The ones that aren't embedded will be preparing exit plans, and anyone they get to replace them won't be in it for the long term, they'll have seen what Dokibird managed to do and be hoping to stick it out for a year and then jump ship with their new audience.

Congratulations, NijiEN, you've become a WoW feeder guild.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68337645
I don't think I had "Selen Tatsuki will bring the end times" on my bingo card

[Anonymous No.]

>>68337794
everyone knew that it would be a shitstorm if they tried to pull another zaion
People just didn't believe they would be THIS retarded to try it again

[Anonymous No.]

>>68337956
I don't think anyone would have believed suicide as a possibility either. That catapulted this into the stratosphere. Even after the hospital tweets people refused to believe it

[Anonymous No.]

>>68332825
is it 2021 again?

[Anonymous No.]

>>68326671
uhoh

[Anonymous No.]

>>68338008
Suicide as a subject tends to make people very uncomfortable so even if the signs are there they'll often refuse to consider it

[Anonymous No.]

>>68338008
which is actually hilarious because niji took her accounts, which means they told everyone selen tried to an hero.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68338008
Honestly, with how many members Niji had and their toxic work culture it was just a matter of time.

[Anonymous No.]

I now understand why she made an entire cover and MV by herself

[Anonymous No.]

>>68327010
I'm 99.9% convinced management blocks all perms and projects as contract renewal approaches in order to force the talents to sign the contract on poor terms in order to move their shit along. Very simple and effective tactic to bully talents into taking shitty contracts,

[Anonymous No.]

>>68328565
>You’re big when you influenced youtube/twitch culture, you’re big when you become an actual celebrity through those platforms.
Ludwig did influence streaming culture. Subathons and donothons are all going back to Ludwig's original subathon. He's usually invited to most big streaming events on both Twitch and Youtube.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68328565
Ludwig is the big dog retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>68336727
It is much, much less than you think. One can discern the difference between 'nuanced opinions that generally follow a certain trend' and 'as long as i am on camera i will embody every one of the most milquetoast mainstream center-left partyline opinions'. Pippa is a liberal, froot is not.

[Anonymous No.]

>talent tries to an hero
>while they're in the hospital get an intern to write a message telling fans everything is ok
>attempt to negotiate with their emergency contact because the talent is unable to do so
>"Yeah let's write all this in our document trying to paint us in a good light."

How can Niji not afford 1 (one) native English speaker to read this over and tell them its going to go over horribly. I have to assume Japanese people think this is okay, which issues aside, whatever, the English is itself awkward at times but its serviceable. But culturally, in English speaking countries, specifically Canada and USA, this shit reads like a parody of corporate wage slave behavior. The "etc" in their list of Selen's complaints really seals the deal. Total disregard for the talent's complaints and clearly did not care to actually investigate their validity.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68340942
I wonder if any leafland anon reported them to the government yet. This is sus as hell

[Anonymous No.]

>>68340778
You're coping hard. Pippa is a liberal in the sense of right wing libertarian -- rights mean property rights, human rights are subordinate to capital, etc.. She's /pol/brained.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68341125
She is not, she will never actually push back against any leftist ideas. She has no real principles.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68341125
I can't believe you're actually falling for her farming retarded /pol/acks with her fake based/cringe shit. She's the vtuber equivalent of brittney venti but isn't a complete and total retard behind the persona to boot, somehow.

[Anonymous No.]

I think the real reason is they got butthurt Selen released a graduation teaser once some interns saw the threads about it on /vt/

[Anonymous No.]

>>68327453
It will matter for as long as they have an en branch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68327320
Wouldn't have it any other way.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68326671
fake they are all lying to save face for selen the traitor

[Anonymous No.]

>>68327584
Yeah, "Selen" posted that, while her socials were suspended. Turns out the apostrophe rrats were right.

The remaining talents probably knew it wasn't her posting, but they can't say a thing without risking their livelihood. Not so much as a "get well soon" was allowed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68341208
yeah pippa is a libertarian

[Anonymous No.]

>>68327237
Not trash taste but Charlie ranted about it on stream today.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68342776
Post a link. Curious but not enough to go digging through one of his streams.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68340778
If you genuinely believe millennial women, at least half of whom are brown and/or lesbian/bi, are actually secretly based WNs, you're one of the dumbest people on this board. Froot was probably a boomercon with wehraboo tendencies at some point given her /k/ background but she's just like the rest now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68342081
I just love how both times management tried to pull off a character assassination, they outed some of their own scummy tactics. With Sayu they inadvertently confirmed that stealth suspensions happen, when they mentioned a suspension during a time she was meant to be on a break. And now this with Selen's tweet when they had supposedly locked her out of her socials.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68327320
t. Mac

[Anonymous No.]

>>68342879
>>68343126

[Anonymous No.]

>>68326671
They need permission from the other talents to use their likeness. The most likely scenario is selen got permission from her branchmates and then after the song was posted one of them spitefully revoked that permission.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68327353
I remember years ago some retards wanting her for EN. And unrelated to that, but she herself alluding to having missed the vtuber hype due to menhera.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68330337
>my opinion on someone is entirely determined by whether or not they agree with me on this one political issue
obsessed. By the way, kill yourself

[Anonymous No.]

>>68336265
Like all miserable faggots here, he does actually understand depression, likely he's depressed himself, it's just that around 20 percent of the posters on this site have the attitude where they think that acting callous lets them LARP as a tough guy and they don't understand how ridiculously transparent this ruse is or how childish it makes them look

[Anonymous No.]

>>68335193
some big jptuber who knows all the details and context would need to cover this whole thing, until that happens it's no wonder JOPs will side with the company

[Anonymous No.]

>>68347954
gonna be difficult to find any JOPs that follow NijiEN

[Anonymous No.]

>>68335526
>got death threats so you can't say anything bad about me now
Hilarious how many people are falling for this when Selen does it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68336265
>People like you who don't have the capacity to understand depression are disturbing
I don't think you're talking to a woman, so how is this relevant?

>>68338686
With how well it worked this time, there's 100% going to be more "attempts" fairly soon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68345032
>talents
>revoking the use of their likeness
>the talents that do not own their likeness
Wat? How the fuck does niji even fucking work? I'm 99.999% sure that niji fucking owns all the models and likeness of every fucking potato they "manage". So if the song owner gives permission. And the artist making the video is specifically paid to create the video and thus has to give permission. And the rest is inhouse IP... who the fuck does the management have to ask? Like honestly? The more I hear about this shit, the more it seems like powahara.
I have no fucking clue why the fuck they wanted to fuck with their talents this much tho? Were they hoping that she would try to grease the wheels a little with some extra cash or what?

[Anonymous No.]

>>68350103
When did Selen say she got death threats? Are you making shit up to muddy the waters?

[Anonymous No.]

>>68350338
>The more I hear about this shit, the more it seems like powahara
Because it is. The "muh perms" excuse was always a crock of shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>68350338
Please understand, Niji management has to get perms from themselves before perms are approved to get perm approval. Hope that clears things up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68350451
I guess some tiny dicked salary man felt all big being able to dictate what their largest talents can do. Probably got a kick out of it, and felt like he has something to do with their success if he meddles enough with their shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68326942
>The only thing missing is Asmongold talking about it.
Someone arguably bigger already did:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhwC7WydUv8

[Anonymous No.]

>>68332592
>You think those JP fans watch EN streams?
Hololive English has a massive JOP following, at the very least.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68350874
>leads with 2%
kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>68326671
Verbal agreements, dms, and social media is not worth anything. All agreements are drawn up in a contract and signed. If content creators don't want to sign with their real name and demand they use their trans name then it's up to the content creator to have their birth certificate changed. All these misunderstandings because terminally online Americans can't comprehend basic contract stuff and what it is to work a real job. In that case they're all better off being indies or having their own companies run like a clusterfuck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68351950
>own companies run like a clusterfuck
ah yes, as opposed to the perfectly smoothly running black company
You're outright lying by the way, if the person has already given their permission in something like an email and you have proof of that, that is perfectly fine even within more formal institutions that might want to follow it up with official paperwork later

[Anonymous No.]

>>68350874
>Watamate Prime in the comments
He needs to rest. koronesuki.img
punch me fgt. Get. Some. Rest.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68326671
>literally everyone was ok
>yet niji still said no
????????

[Anonymous No.]

>>68355271
maybe the song author mentioned taiwan in his feed

[Anonymous No.]

DOKI I KNOW YOU ARE /HERE/ PLEASE MARRY ME I LOVE YOU SO MUCH, I LOVE YOUR SINGING VOICE

[Anonymous No.]

>>68356135
based

[Anonymous No.]

>>68326671
This is embarrassing. Do really dragoons and dramashitter drag other people on this issue? LMAO what a pathetic move
EDUCATE YOUR DRAMASHITTER SELEN.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68350389
Yeah, the NDF arent even trying to hide it anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68350750
Weren’t the managers like 90% paajets and diversity hires?

[Anonymous No.]

>>68355271
The managers just felt like fucking her over.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68350750
>he
EN is managed by former NijiIN talents

[Anonymous No.]

>>68355271
The permissions were for Mysta and Nina, most likely. Managers saw the finished MV and told Selen she needs to scrub those two out. Selen refused because Christmas, and then it all tumbles down. Not blaming Selen, whole situation is obviously a shitshow.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68356135
Why does she have the permanent dick shaming face?

[Anonymous No.]

>>68336690
i had fun skimming through the comments, so thanks for the link

[Anonymous No.]

>>68357041
Only one was confirmed to be a staff member, not necessarily a manager and I'm pretty sure she left long time ago.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68326671
I was really really waiting to see this

[Anonymous No.]

>>68358301
It's hotter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68335941
The waves are floundering because they aren't supporting the talents. They don't get perms half the time and shut down projects. That's not even accounting for the time zone debuffs and available livers in those timezones to collab with at all. All while the covid boom was waning and people were no longer hostages looking for content to consooom.
It was both unreasonable to expect the recent gens to be big and expect them to get big when they've been abandoned to die by Nijisanji.

>>68340942
If niji would get the fuck off its ass and pay people what they deserve and hired enough staff to get stuff done Niji EN could have succeeded. It was their own fault at the end of the day. Hopefully a leaf can get a class action lawsuit together over Niji's labor violations against its leaf employees.

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>>68351950
They(Lilypichu and her producer) and selen confirmed that they respnded to the email from Nijisanji corporate and did what they asked to provide perms/rights for Selen already. So she did have rights and they did go through the correct process.

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>>68356683
Sayu revealed that almost none of the management speak English. How that work is up to your imagination

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>>68341916
Wat? it was 100% confirmed they gave her perms in like Aug 2022 ages ago. After FalseID released his first video about it the producer of the song commented and then reached out to him saying the they had provided permission to cover the song in Aug 2022 and also provided the perms to Niji through the email that corpo sent them asking for it.

[Anonymous No.]

It's because she used one of her co-workers models in the music video without directly asking them, and then when she did that person said 'NO'.
I'm not kidding, it was because someone was so petty about being included in her video and management chose to not mediate.

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>>68327237
>anime man covers Selen
>”i can’t believe she got fired for having a boyfriend”

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>>68327010
>Not yet
https://youtu.be/GTomMm61Ixw?si=V4dN2lP3K9HeKFvB

[Anonymous No.]

>>68358187
>The permissions were for Mysta and Nina
Since when does any vtuber need permissions to use something within the company?

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>>68351950
>Management wont do their job which lead to the untenable situation for Selen and EN as a whole
>Hasn't been resolved for nearly 3 years of constant problems
>Well known issue across numerous talents in the EN branch
>Not only in the branch, but companies are literally tweeting directly at Selen saying we'll give you perms any time for anything we got just DM us when you want them because this. THIS is how bad the management situation got at Nijisanji EN. Companies. Multi-billion dollar companies having to go directly to the talent because management can't handle something as basic as answering an e-mail, sending a fax, receiving the signed fax, then tossing it in the filing cabinet behind the box of dusty cum soaked stolen play buttons.
>WELL WHY DON'T YOU HAVE MANAGEMENT DO THEIR JOB!! GOSH!
Lmao okay larper. Good news! They have a job opening right now just 4u tough stuff! Go work that real job since you think Nijisanji is so functional.

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>>68361138
She and NijiEN talked about it. They need the OK to put someone into a project, even if it's as simple as a commissioned image with them in it.
Hololive requires you to get permission to sing another coworker's song as well. The only difference is that management actually helps mediate and that no one is big enough a cunt to say "DON'T YOU DARE".

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>>68361229
>She and NijiEN talked about it.
Wrong, NijiEN says they never talked about it. If you're gunna be a corporate bootlicker at least listen to their true and factual statement.

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>>68358187
Niji owns the model though, not Nina or Mysta

>>68360694
Yes. We know Niji lied about not knowing about the MV. It would have been more accurate if the termination notice said they were told repeatedly over the year+ the MV was in production as perms were progressively obtained they just either don't do their job and answer their emails or are clinically incapable of doing their job because of their dementia.
https://i.4cdn.org/vt/1707197635070661.jpg

>>68361229
Which they didn't do to anyone else before.

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>>68356683
Coolies, not diversity hires. Niji is run by chinks, so they cut corners wherever they can (especially quality control).

>>68350389
Sorry, unsubstantiated bullying claims, th a that's TOTALLY different.

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>>68361307
I'm saying NijiEN is retarded for not being a mediator for something as simple as having another talent have an image of them in the music video. It's obvious whoever the talent was that bitched about it is a complete cunt, because why wouldn't you want free positive exposure to people who may not otherwise even know you exist when they see you in the video?

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>>68327791
it must be more than one

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>>68360810
Mediate on what... the livers don't own their image. Its all owned by niji or colors. So what the fuck are they supposed to mediate?

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>>68327237
>I bet someone from Trash Taste will mention it
>Trash Taste
>mentioning something outside Hololive
Even if they do mention Nijisanji, Hololive will get strays one way or another.

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>>68361564
Well yes. That is in fact quite different. Especially since for death threats especially ones from your own company its piss easy to call the police and get the law involved.
Being bullied, by having your projects sabotaged, dragged out, and shut down constantly however is a whole different beast where you can't really get the police involved, and that shit will wear you down.

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>>68362525
>will not mention Nijisanji
>links image of someone who literally auditioned for Niji
What?

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>>68336632
Scarily insightful from an author who ultimately also chose to end his life via suicide.

People who kill themselves don’t do so for attention. If you succeed, you get no attention because you’re dead and not there to receive it. If you fail, you will be forcibly institutionalized against your will, which is the kind of death sentence no suicidal person wants to receive.

People are driven to suicide when they truly think that there is no other alternative. Suicide doesn’t just creep up on you - it’s something that festers for weeks, months, years, forcing you to be in this constant battle of push and pull against it. So when you finally become too overwhelmed from being in an endless cycle of fighting that by the time you decide to attempt, you’re no longer in a clear, rational state of mind. It’s an inconsolable hell that you have to be lucky to snap out of before you do anything ridiculously stupid because you’re in a delirious state where there is no other viable solution anymore, where the only thing more preferable than suffering every day is not to.

Selen didn’t attempt for attention or because she’s a woman or whatever you retarded faggots want to pretend, because if you admit that she attempted because she felt like her back was against the wall and she had no other choice, you realize an incredibly lonely and horrific truth about yourself in the process. I’ve almost attempted and I’ve had friends attempt. Nobody does it for attention. Nobody wants the fallout that comes after.

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>>68362525
Get that disgusting faggots face away from my wife.

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>>68356683
>diversity hires
I know this is 4chan but come on man. It's a Japanese company. Think. And the only reason it's pajeets is because of how they handled NijiIN.

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>>68327167
This rrat has legs but being the talent manager that fucked up a simple 15k invoice is even worse
It could go worse that her disclosure of the 15k figure is what set off management against her, if that's the case then why the fuck does a talent agency prefer to keep budgets under wraps?
15k for a music video is in the upper range if you're pulling it from your pocket bit that shit's peanuts to agencies that asks you to get 2%

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>>68335193
How long could you make this list

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>>68326671
Crazy how the song features everyone being happy like le Nijisanji family they always bring up and now nobody is commenting anything about her
They're just taking breaks to escape possible criticism
She's been sacrificed and hung out to dry, they don't give a shit about her
What a sad fucking song it is now

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>>68326671
is lilipichu ina at home or Ina is lilipichu at home?

>>68330337
oh wait... she's female altare, sorry...

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>>68336632
>>68363326
I remember when I almost attempted to off myself. Christmas with no family around. Various shit happened.
It didn't hit me instantly. My body started going into autopilot and next thing I know, i've made a makeshift noose and basically had a side of my brain convincing me it might be better off bowing out. Even typing it, I hesitate because there's a feeling of shame after you attempt you don't want to remember. So that's why I don't believe Doki is bullshitting either. Especially with her depressive tendencies and the company she was in. And it's especially why I hope whoever tried to make her an hero gets every ounce of karma coming to them.

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>>68364644
probably a lot more they don't know, but I can't be assed to put more than that
JP nijifags are the actual frogs on the boiling oil

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>>68326942
Do anybody really gives a shit about what that faggot has to say.

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>>68335193
JOP are a faggots who are into ntr. You won't get any logical rebuttal from them anyways