/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

Wait a minute, was this because she is still using the name dragoons? Is that what sparked that completely unnecessary stream? Are they that petty? Even with Niji's image in the toilet of the 9th circle of hell, realistically in a month is would have blown over. Are they actually accelerating?

[Anonymous No.]

Huh? No they're just retarded and thought this was good PR and damage control.

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>>68887899
Are they that petty? Yes

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>>68887899
No, it's because a prepared statement to represent a corporation takes time to put together.

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>>68887899
>he thinks anycolor thinks
Anon they literally said WE BROKE THE LAW DING DING DING LOOK AT US BREAKING THE LAW as a defense.

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>>68888858
>a prepared statement to represent a corporation takes time to put together.
>Use a liver's channel to release it
uhh

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>>68887899
Its the fuckin Japanese bro. The dragoon stuff is probably just a small part of it, its her being transparent about the workplace enviroment at Niji at all thats prompting all this petty damage control

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>>68888353
Why would they think this would go over well? Is this some sort of advanced Japanese corporate autism that would only be acceptable there or do their managers just have sub-50 IQ?

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>>68887899
Doki singlehandedly mind breaking Anycolor management. Too based.

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>>68889359
>"Why would they think"
That's the entire point, they didn't think.

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>>68889359
You have to remember, being in Nijisanji mean you're certified mentally retarded and know how to do gymnastic.

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>>68889359
>why would they think?
because anycolor is a company founded by a tech bro retard and the management is 20 something failed idols who have basically no training. They are literally playing pretend and have never had a situation bad enough that couldn't be handled on autopilot. Now they need an actual legal and PR team and they don't know how to navigate this

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>>68887899
Nah, management told them she was gonna doxx everyone and they went full on attack mode. Nijisanji EN members aren't very smart so they probably thought that was actually true instead of just a normal legal procedure that would have their info redacted in the actual lawsuit.

[Anonymous No.]

Didn't watch, didn't care, NijiEn is not worthy of my attention anymore

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>>68889359
they think that the problem with their last statement was that people didn't hear them when they said "she violated company policy". they don't realize that people are mad at them for implicitly confessing to 30 different crimes and making her attempt suicide, so they think they just have to keep saying it louder. in the japanese mind, if you violate company policy, your human rights are waived.

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>>68889359
They're being morons and thinking Japanese/Asian style damage control is going to work on the English speaking world where their hierarchy shit doesn't fly.
>drama happens
>statement is made by authoritative figure (the company)
>usually ends here because employees/average person are lower rank so society doesn't give a fuck what they day
So after losing the first round, they have even less of an idea what they're doing now.

[Anonymous No.]

I figured it out. It's all about evaporation. If they set the yacht on fire, the water will disappear preventing it from sinking.

[Anonymous No.]

I think that Niji PR department also only gets 2% of the pay. Because NO WAY any fucking corporation would do what they did. How is it possible that a corpo with billion+ yen market cap can release shit like that. Any PR person would tell it's a wrong move. Hell, any guy off the street would tell you the same.

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>>68889359
>bullying in japan is a culture not a form of harassment
don't bother to reason with them

[Anonymous No.]

>suicide 'attempt' but is fine a couple days after
>and streams on her old account
>recording calls before hand
>clear communication why her music video cant be put up yet but still tweets that she isnt at fault and is blaming management
>constantly recording private recording before all this to use as 'evidence'
>others talking to her to stop actively going against management considered 'bullying'
>lawyers up at the speed of light once evidence against her is pulled out


yeah I dont believe Selen at all
people are just hopping on the niji hate bandwagon and ignoring red flags

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>>68887899
>he thinks Niji management reacts that fast
LMAO

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>>68889359
japanese rubberneckers seem equally bewildered so it's not that

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>>68889195
>drop it to overlap dokibird
ingenius

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>>68889696
This tracks given that their response to serious accusations basically amounted to sending the 3 popular kids to try and slander the one making the accusations.

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>>68889975
who's that in the gif?

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>>68890599
Millie you are not even trying at this point

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>>68890599
Now list Niji red flags.

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>>68890599
I tried to kms and was let out after 4 days (granted my parents were there to vouch that they wouldn’t let me be retarded again) and life just moves on, I think Selen is just doing the same. Also if you tried to an hero and survive you get a real scare so she’s probably motivated to shift into high gears and have a better year than previously with kurosanji.
The recording of info is also understandable, where there’s smoke there is fire, she probably wisened up that these people are not her friends. If you go sniff around you can find vox’s private Twitter where he actively interacts with 13 year olds and talks to them about cutting and other weird shit so these people are not saints.

[Anonymous No.]

To be fair, it is absolutely retarded of her to keep kicking the hornets nest for no reason with her "new" oshi mark and fan name.

Like legitimately, if you're trying to put your past behind you like you say you are, then that means leaving your past in the fucking past.

Niji is completely tone deaf too, putting this out in the first place, but also at the exact same time as her first stream back to gaming.

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>>68890599
Having a lawyer is not strange anon

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>>68890306
this. japs realizing westerners have worker's rights in real time

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>>68890599
Just get pregnant already.

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>>68890599
Retard-chama.... all that you said is bullshit... find it in your heart to lurk moar and get a better brain, you hairless retrogade....

She was gone for a month so recovery lines up, all shots were first fired by Any, the video MV seems like a minor mistake, but one that still would be easily avoided by any competent company (and a much smaller issue then the other accusations). Also, if she already had an lawyer response from before, plus Niji also confirms that legal proceedings where happening for a while (to the point of leaking documents), and they have their medical shit, she didn't lawyer up. Niji ran headfirst into a legal defense barrier and are now Ree-ing that Canada law isn't as stupid as JP law.

>Tl:Dr Find a better rope than Selen and hope that you don't get aborted in the next life, lying little boy.

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>>68887899
The statement was recorded ahead of time, I'm sure it wasn't because of that. They must have been planning this for a while.

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>>68887899
If Nijisanji EN management really is run by a bunch of Indians like people say then they absolutely took it personally and shouted a couple "We will fuck her mother!"s in the call center/corpo hq.

[Anonymous No.]

Honestly, I thought Nijisanji EN would have just kept quiet and the whole thing would have just blown over.

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>>68887899
No, its because she's crazy and lying. Also her fanbase is retarded and don't understand how anything works when it comes to legal investigations.

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>>68892025
I concede as I'm just a tourist but how do you explain the leaked chat between her manager and Selen?

That was pretty disingeniuous of course this is me thinking Niji isn't retarded enough to forge evidence of their chat for the MV

[Anonymous No.]

I have to ask because it seems too insane to be true rather than my own misunderstanding, but are they arguing that she doxxed or threatened to dox her coworkers because she included their info in confidential documents WITH HER OWN LAWYER?

[Anonymous No.]

Did Niji trademark dragoons?

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>>68892660
They can't. It's a term that existed before they existed.

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>>68887899
My professional shitposting always comes true. Come read my next shitpost here:
>She will try to kill herself again before retiring from Vtubing and entering a life of obscurity, the company will laugh as they continue to fill their pockets with money

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>>68892531
Yes. They're claiming that divulging that information to her lawyer and then that lawyer sending the statement to the Company is illegal.

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>>68892519
Less forge and more likely omited any in between context among the other issues piling up in the company.
If there was ever a single issue, is Selen putting the trigger and putting up the MV, which should've been entirely legal to do minus getting perms from ex-livers (which is an insane thing to ask considering pomu did the same without a hitch), so She put up the video in rebellion, gave up after the privating by asking people to reupload, and probably spiraled into the insanity that led to her trying to Kill herself.

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>>68892531
It's really odd she put all their personal info to include their home addresses. Typically you file a complaint with the company and name they parties involved. You don't go including their home addresses. That seems creepy.

I mean, all you need to say is Elira at Nijisanji.
You don't need to say Elira at Nijisanji aka Ching Chong Chang who lives at 123 Ping Pong Pang street.

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>>68891473
There's a character limit here anon

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>>68893234
No idea how suing works in Canada, but where I live it is very typical to include all the known info about the other party when filing a case

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>>68891521
>vox’s private Twitter where he actively interacts with 13 year olds and talks to them about cutting and other weird shit so these people are not saints.
What in the FUCK?

[Anonymous No.]

With all of the events, the "management actions' that have been taken. I fully believe the clique/talent are in the drivers seat for this.

There's no way that any reputable company of a large corporate fortitude would let the employees see into HR records, would they let them make decisions for the division of the company. There's a hierarchy there that has clearly been overrun by vindictive cunts who feel that what they have done when Selen was her entire career with double standards and favoritism, to taking over her account and telling people she was in the hospital (which I feel would violate some privacy laws in the good ol US of A.) Then instead of letting her just go, shitcan her, then go full vindictive highschool bitch mode and put out a pre-recorded statement that was basically them trying to cry to daddy and tell him that Selen is the big meanie and we didn't do anything wrong. Big ass fake fucking crocodile tears.

Management is compromised, the cunts are in charge. I won't rest until the clique is silenced, management unceremoniously thrown out publicly and the EN branch absorbed.

God Speed Doki, you and you're Lawyer are going to need all the support you can get. Get ready.

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>>68893234
>all you need to say is Elira at Nijisanji.
No its fucking not you absolute imbecile.

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>>68893234
Depends on what information is going to be used for. If its to mention Elira in passing, no you wouldn't include it. If its because she is a witness to an alleged wrongdoing or because she herself is the perpetrator, her legal name and address is needed to pursue court actions involving her.

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>>68893234
If you specifically file a harassment complaint, then you put out everything you know about harasser that you're accusing.

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>>68890599
bro how long do you think they keep you in the hospital?
that shit's expensive and they got beds they need for other people, they get you stabilized and ship you to outpatient

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>>68893706
So if Elira was being sued then she had every right to see those documents. They weren't "secret documents only between lawyers."

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>>68892962
We don't know what Pomu did to get permissions for her duet, but I'll go out on a limb and guess it didn't involve uploading the video for perms check less than 48 hours before your intended upload date during the Christmas holiday
Dragoons will shit on you for pointing out that she did this during the holiday and say that Japan doesn't celebrate Christmas, which is true, but it's also true that all the ex-talent whose perms they needed probably wouldn't have been immediately responsive.

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>>68889359
Worked well for me. It makes all the people who automatically believed Selen to look like idiots. She broke the fucking rules, she uploaded the video without letting her manager check it. She knows the rules and decided to upload it herself anyway. You really believe that made her try to kill herself? lol. Gonna need proof of the bullying she claims happened. All you faggots just automatically believe her.

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>>68890599
I'll bite

>>suicide 'attempt' but is fine a couple days after
Not a couple days after, but a whole month.
I have a sister that attempted suicide multiple times and they released her 2/3 days after everytime.

>>and streams on her old account
As opposed to streaming on her banned account?
Or she shouldn't have been able to stream at all because a failed suicide attempt would forever leave her scared of the "Start stream" button?

>>recording calls before hand
She's bringing up what she recorded as proof of something, so obviously there was a reason and a point to record.

>>clear communication why her music video cant be put up yet but still tweets that she isnt at fault and is blaming management
"Clear communication" 2 days after.
>tweets that she isnt at fault and is blaming management
She isn't at fault, and it is a management issue (she got approval for the copyright holder of the song as mentioned by the copyright holder AND the manager himself in the DMs they just leaked; the only "problem" was some other liver didn't want their character's image or reference to it on the video, which wouldn't be a copyright issue AT ALL considering BlackColor owns all of it anyway).

>>constantly recording private recording before all this to use as 'evidence'
No reason to assume she was "constantly" recording; she clearly recorded something BAD that was said (so bad it's showing up in a legal document), thus it's safe to assume she had REASON to record it.

>>others talking to her to stop actively going against management considered 'bullying'
This issue is only being considered bullying by the people, but if you're able to read you should agree.

>>lawyers up at the speed of light once evidence against her is pulled out
She has been lawyered up for a while, and the "evidence against her" is the document her LAWYER sent summarizing points to be talked over; recheck the timeline, your sentence doesn't make sense.

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>>68894327
But if she wasn't being sued and was just mentioned as being a contributor to Selen's downward spiral that lead to her sewerslide attempt, then she wouldn't. We don't know what exactly these documents were.

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>>68894581
your stupid bitch brain made the "internal investigation" FUCKING PUBLIC.

I swear to god this fucking bitch

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>>68894581

Actual question: If I tell you something that is under and NDA and you leak it to the world didn't I break NDA?

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>>68887899
it might be the -15% drop in the company stock value

[Anonymous No.]

Why is Niji hellbent on making this separation as acrimonious as possible?

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>>68890599
enna mad cause i busted inside with no rubber

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>>68887899
>trying to understand japanese autism, especially super-advanced jewy-greed-tier japanese company autism

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>>68895327
High grade retardation. They seriously a whole fucking PR firm to tardwrangle their shit.

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>>68894581
Literally
>we investigated ourselves and decided it wasn't illegal
jfc

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>>68895327
See >>68894594
Just like with nijishills, you are trying to comprehand the actions and mindsets of terminal retards. Any effort to understand them beyond "they dont think" will just make you think you're insane.

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>>68891134
the sousou no Frieren of vtubing

you'll understand when she returns in 80 years

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>>68894581
Even if the legal case goes nowhere, they do realize they just threw their livers under the bus with this, right? Before today, a lot of people were just guessing who the "bullies" were, would've been it if they left it at that.
Right now those who made statements and their fans are probably angry at Selen, but that's going to change to them begin angry Niji even pushed them to out themselves. Which would mean an even bigger dumpster fire.

Congrats Nijisanji, you fucking played yourself.

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7zaTpwP8DQ
IT'S UP

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>>68894581
Is this real? Are they really trying to say that none of their livers have any confidentiality obligations with information from Niji? Am I taking crazy pills?

[Anonymous No.]

But at least my wife finana is safe from the drama, right?

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>>68896367
Anon, this is time for an intervention.

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>>68887899
Who? Take meds please.

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>>68894581
It's like watching someone dig down in order to get out of a hole.

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>>68896224
First thing he address is stocks

[Anonymous No.]

I have no idea what's going on and don't want to read like 1000 posts across 10 threads, can someone give me a QRD?

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>>68887899
she completely won the early information war since as a random individual had infinitely more "freedom of movement" than a giant japanese (dumb) company

that and her milking this for drama as hard as she can, which yea using her old fan name for her new fanbase is part of

has she done a stream as dokibird yet without throwing massive shade at her company (omg its so cool I stream whatever I want now, omg I wasted 200k last year and thats totally their fault isnt that crazy, omg I like don't wanna talk about it but im totally gonna sue COMPANY)

she 100% could just stream and play video games and rake in money, but she is dramafarming because its even more money (fuck the 10s of people whose jobs get fucked by this that had no involvement in what she is upset about)

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>>68897149
Niji couldnt not have the last word, totally burned down the EN branch to try and slander Selen. Possibly all of Anycolor, CEO even made a statement, but its all full of holes and bullshit. Shit is burning hotter after it was trying to cool.

[Anonymous No.]

What the fuck did I miss today?

[Anonymous No.]

This is all just a MGS4 reference
>Niji tower going down in flames
>Selen and Elira standing on top

Elira: Rise and Shine Selen
Elira: Look the lawsuit is over
>*pans over Niji HQ in flames*
Selen: Why? You could've stopped us
Elira: This is just as I'd hoped things would end

>Pomu was Big Boss and left to free herself from Nijisanji in other to establish Outer Haven for the other Livers

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>>68897311
most people that i knew that lose their jobs talk about how much cooler their new job is than their old job for a few weeks

[Anonymous No.]

>>68897549
gold
KEK

[Anonymous No.]

TAZUMI HAS TO DIRECTLY ADDRESS THE SITUATION VIA FORMAL VIDEO IN ENGLISH LMAOOOOOOOOO

[Anonymous No.]

>>68897549
Meme gold, better than Rushia, better than Coco Taiwan, its the death of a company due to their own hubris, wonderful

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>>68897599
SELEN

ELIRA

SISTAAAAAAAA

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>>68897311
I dunno anon, it seemed like she was perfectly willing to have a chill stream about playing around with Neopets until they deliberately fucked with her by streaming another petty corporate statement literally on top of it.

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>>68890599
how's your tongue?

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>>68895065
you broke the NDA by sharing with a person outside of the scope of the NDA

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>>68897441
Burned down the branch how?

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>>68889359
It would in Japan. Its why they are only crashing and burning this hard on EN-Web. Jap web from what I know is far from this anti niji atm.

[Anonymous No.]

If all of Niji gets dragged into a court case, are they all gonna get doxed by the legal filings?

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>>68898685
They leaked court documents under NDA to their talents who then prepped and made a statement on-stream to share that information with the public.

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>>68899051
I'm looking forward to a jury of normies having to watch vtuber streams as evidence

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>>68896367
At best, she's just fucking stupid and goes along with shit. At best.

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>>68887899
They wanted to give the impression of an apology while also trying to control the narrative about who is in the wrong.
It doesn't work, especially from blatant corporate mouthpieces.

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>>68890599
>suicide 'attempt' but is fine a couple days after
Fine after a month of 0 coms.
>and streams on her old account
Starts streaming even later on old account. You might even assume that her Niji account might be inaccessible since she got unceremoniously fired.
>recording calls before hand
Trying to get proof of misconduct after it has been happening for a while. Makes sense.
>clear communication
Delayed communication. Not clear at all, only vague reasons without any timeframe given in response. "we might need xyz" or "it might take a while"
>constantly recording private recording
Canadian law. 1 person needs to give consent. Also that is how gathering evidence of misconduct against oneself works. Yes. You get harassed/bullied/fucked with... so you start recording these interactions so you have receipts.
>others talking to her to stop actively going against management
Not others talking to her. Management pressuring others to put group pressure onto a single worker because she technically did not do anything wrong, so they needed peer pressure. Pretty sure would be hella illegal in EU at least.
>lawyers up at the speed of light once evidence against her is pulled out
Lawyered up after a suicide attempt. Most likely even before that. Before anyone knew what was happening, and probably before niji even knew they were going to fire her because she saw the writing on the wall.

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>>68899051
NDAs are hard to enforce and not actually that strong
legal confidentiality on the other hand, that shit is well established in law and that's what niji likely fucked up

[Anonymous No.]

>>68896224
NEGLIGIBLE
FINANCIAL
IMPACT
Hehe

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>>68889999
how exactly did they "make her" try to off herself? She couldn't release a stupid MV, who the fuck cares? You're going to kill yourself now? What a joke. Someone that mentally fragile deserves to die anyway, they'll find another reason to do it

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>>68899708
>Also that is how gathering evidence of misconduct against oneself works.
Yes I can't believe the sheer stupidity of "only someone trying to stir shit would record conversations at work"
Do people not know how you protect yourself from corporate fuckery? You get the receipts and cover your ass.

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>>68890599
It's been fishy from day 1. She clearly had all this shit planned out. She wanted to leave so she set up the perfect scenario to get canned and cash in on pity sympathy like the spiteful bitch she is.

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>>68900415
This isn't even bait, you just threw in the pole and tackle box.

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>>68901829
not even a bait attempt. Not one person has ever given a valid reason to try to kill yourself because "me no like job anymore" Like really motherfucker? Most people just get a new job, not fake a suicide so cash in on the pity money.

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>>68902141
>not even a bait attempt...
>Immediately more bait
lmao

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>>68894594
Congrats, anon. You finally proved the YWNBJposters wrong.

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>>68894581
this is hilarious. not only did they admit to not keeping up their confidentiality obligation, but they are trying to put the blame on the livers that fall under their own incorporation. nobody is dumb enough to think the livers independently thought of that pr stunt, either. so rip bozo.

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>>68898315
I missed it what was it

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>>68902588
and I'm still not hearing a reason why this is acceptable? If my boss at work pissed me off, I'm not going to go wrist in the bathtub, I just simply get a new job.

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>>68902860
He's also a big fan of shutting down ROM sites and hunting whales

[Anonymous No.]

Nijisanji's stock price is going down because they're dumping all their money into their SEA defense force

[Anonymous No.]

Between the idea that Niji intentionally strung her along and fucked with her projects until she lashed out and broke down, or that they're just so incompetent that she ASSUMED that she was being strung along and fucked with intentionally, which is worse?

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>>68903423
Okay, on the off chance that you're actually this retarded, I will attempt to explain this to you. So Selen/Doki had been working with Any color for around 3 years. From what we as outsiders could observe, Selen was getting shafted by management for a couple months, personally I didn't keep track I just kept seeing posts about it every now and then. Now from this we can gather that perhaps this harassment she speaks of wasn't something that started with the music video. This means that management kept fucking with her and getting other livers to fuck with her for some time, let's just say it was 4 months. 4 months is quite a bit of time. So 4 months of getting your shit kicked in by management and your coworkers pressuring you into just taking it and not causing a scene. That kind of stress just piling up until you reach a breaking point and decide to kill yourself. Do you think you get it now or are you too much of a retarded nijishill to understand?

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>>68890599
>people are just hopping on the niji hate bandwagon and ignoring red flags
people do not understand bpd. If you look up every other form of mental illness the support books are all "how to help someone who has depression" or "supportive ways to keep your autistic kid growing well" and then bpd is just "how to survive having a kid with bpd" and "how to stop caring about your bpd sibling" or even "as a caregiver to someone with bpd, here are some good detachment exercises you can do when its too overwhelming"

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>>68906302
Oh I understand all that, but the point still stands: its just a job. Mean coworkers? Shitty boss? Quit your fucking job, don't hang yourself. Millions of people go through that kind of stuff, they simply leave or get themselves fired, what kind of person decides they'd rather jump off a building than find a new job? How is that not Menhera Prime behavior?

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>>68906599
faking bipolar shit isnt a free pass to sperg out at will whenever it's convenient. It magically only kicks in when she's in the wrong!

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>>68889359
Only retards will apply for their low paid manager position.

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>>68906952
bpd ain't bipolar. Bpd is borderline personality disorder. Bpd niggas wish they were just bipolar during their rare moments of clarity, then they might actually have a chance at life. bpd is fucked.

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>>68902141
Vox is panicking because he most likely said sometjing to Selen on the magnitude of "fucking kill yourself" on the recorded message. There's a reason he was so adamant that "i don't know what I said during that message" during the explanation.

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>>68887899
some vindictive bitch just wanted to overlap doki's first gaming stream. they did that very successfully so kudos

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>>68890306
It only works when its not fucking bullshit

Source: Me. I'm a Ching Chong.

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>>68906786
Oh that's what you mean, well to be honest I'm not going to disagree that she's menhera for trying to kill herself. My explanation was mostly just to help you understand why she would try to kill herself. People have different limits to what they can take and I guess she reached hers. Or alternatively she's planned this whole thing out and is some kind of cunning mastermind, but that's not likely.

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>>68903423
Did you ever try being in a work environment where you get harassed by coworkers on a regular basis and you can't even quit because of your contract? People have killed themselves over less.

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>>68890599
Millie, I'm willing to look past all this if you come 4 provinces down and suck my dick.

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>>68907317
so she's literally a schizophrenic? she should be in an asylum not grifting people then

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>>68907337
and she's enough of a bitch to try to use that too I bet. I mean who hasn't joked around with friends like that? "Don't you eat that last nugget or I'll fucking kill you!" friend is acting all sad: you: "do a flip!" etc

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>>68908108
>No he probably said it in a playful way!
lol vox is a piece of shit, even before all this, he definitely said that shit with 100% of his being.

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>>68907578
She's an adult, not a helpless toddler. She could have easily got herself fired if she hated it that much. Which, coincidentally, she did exactly that once she had all the pieces of her plan in place for that sweet golden parachute.

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>>68908366
my point is people say stuff like that all the time, its not literal. Hell every day people at work mutter about killing various shitty customers.

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>>68908614
I know this is a difficult concept, anon, but often the same words can mean different things and be more or less appropriate based on context and tone.

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>>68890599
To be fair Niji has been attempting suicide for a week and it's still fine

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>>68907851
Not quite schizophrenic but definitely living in her own reality incompatible with that of normal humans. Regular people find it difficult to coexist with someone with bpd. Never mind coexisting... the average person who becomes a vtuber doesn't even have what it takes to protect themselves or cover their own asses when working with someone who has bpd. This comes back on the niji screening process in the end. Between their choice in hires and their complete lack of control or vision regarding the culture of the EN branch they dug this grave themselves

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>>68891879
sauce?

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>>68887899
>. Are they actually accelerating?
no, not anymore

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>>68890599
Either way I still want to watch nijisanji on fire

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>>68912387
No im pretty sure they are accelerating, just in a downward direction now

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>>68909965
>>68907317
wish I had the cap of the thing I saw posted recently that described high functioning BPD

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>>68907851
If you attempt suicide over bullying as an adult then you're definitely not right in the head. That's normally reserved for losing your child or spouse, not from mean words said by people that live thousands of miles away that you probably haven't even met irl before. I'm gonna say the truth is probably in the middle and both sides are to blame. Selen/Doki is an extremely sensitive basket case that unironically needs meds and therapy. She could be so far gone that even normal joking banter might set her off.

That said, its not like the others didn't have a long enough time to get to know her and her delicate sensibilities. Its not hard at all to figure out how someone is feeling from your words and tone it back. There is zero reason to be cruel unless you are just trying to pick on them. I doubt it was something extreme like them all getting into a discord call and chanting "KILL YOURSELF" over and over to her, but they probably sensed her weakness and wanted to exploit it to make themselves feel good. Basic bully mentality. It was probably just the normal "mean girl" shit that normies wouldn't bat an eye at, but since Selen is autistic, she took it way too seriously and they didn't realize how much it was affecting her until it was too late. Both sides are retarded.

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>>68912786
Well, gravity is acceleration

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>>68899331
Annon, is Finana.
For any person it 5 minutes at most to notice that she is dumb as rocks and helpless when alone. Reminds me of the Blonde girl from Nagatoro if anything.

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>>68913030
Yeah. That said, management have painted themselves as malicious at this point.

The talents are maybe innocent.
But management... they just somehow keep digging and digging as they showcase themselves as human scum.

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>>68907337
Going to be especially funny if it turns out all she has recorded is him describing preferential treatment he has received, and Kurosanji misinterpreted some statement like "I have evidence from management and fellow livers showing mistreatment within the company" to mean "I'm going to sue the livers."
If their statements are anything to go by, that's the level of reading comprehension they're working with.

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>>68894581
No fucking way they are trying to say that if there ia something they have to keep confidential they can just tell their livers about it and the livers can leak it without repercussion. What a fucking clownshow.

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>>68914027
I absolutely fucking guarantee that NijiEN's management saw the words "lawyer" and "legal document" and immediately went "AAAAIIIIIIIIEEEE SHE IS SUING US WE MUST DISCREDIT HER BEFORE THIS ALL BECOMES PUBLIC TOMORROW MORNING!!!!"

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>>68914027
I wouldn't be surprised if this is the case considering they keep on fumbling NDAs by sending them to the wrong people

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>>68889359
I wished real hard that the management are from JP and not from SEA.

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>>68910198
AI Slop

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>>68889359
Rushia was handled with the utmost grace and professionalism, even while she was acting actively hostile to the company. Short statement of what's happening, other talent have a few words to say but it's mostly their own feelings with any specific facts or allegations kept private to avoid public mudslinging that just hurts everyone. Same with Mel - between the two of them, there are perfect models for how to handle either "dangerous menhera who seriously fucked up and hates us" or "non-malicious but still major mistakes that mean we have to part ways" that clearly still work just fine for Japanese companies. This is a Niji-specific thing.

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>>68890306
>Bugs get mindfucked when their bug logic doesnt work
Kek