Elira and her many crimes

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Unraveling the shit-show that is NijisanjiiEN
let the proceedings begin

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>>69120347
holy fuck look at those titty ass

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>>69120347
Jesus Horatio Christ that cleavage. I want to sexo Elira so FUCKING BAD.

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>>69120347
I want her to terminate me with those breasts

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Crime 1: woman

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>>69120347
The schizo text analysis in the top right matches up too perfectly with Millie's typing style.
The implication that Selen was going through millie to get perms is insane.
It means that the clique aren't "managers" per say, because Millie probably had to ask an ACTUAL manager for ex-liver permission.
That's why it didn't make sense. Why would Nijisanji have to ask permission from themselves?
Easy
Millie didn't have authorization.

But Selen having to approach the clique anytime she wanted something done is like bowing before the guards before you can enter a palace.

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>>69120504
If she debuted with this outfit she might have stayed ahead of Selen

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>>69120674
Thank you for the juicy slurrp

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>>69120697
Nah, you don't want the big beautiful booba in your face 24/7. It should be a treat.

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>>69120674
This would prove shadow managers as opposed to actual managers. They shadow cuz they have to translate for the actual managers

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>>69120347
Embezzling the money meant for the AR Live that was never refunded

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>>69120674
Believe in the GURRAT, the inmates run the asylum.

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>>69120674
don't forget the beginning of it, but yeah that Millie text might be biggest tip of to link the rrats together

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>>69120674
The idea that nijis in general and the clique specifically were all coming onto /vt/ regularly to vent, shitpost, argue and be petty to one another is so fucking funny. This place must make it fucking impossible to have a good and trusting engagement with your coworkers.

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>>69120347
what's next, is she the lawyer too?

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>>69120347
THOSE BOOBS ARE FILLED WITH LIES ANONS!

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>>69121377
The best boobs always are, son.

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>>69121130
save save save before purgatory!

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>>69120994
I was gonna make a post about this before the NDF was in full force today
Shadow managers makes a lot more sense, the idea that they're directly the managers is overly simplified and makes the unifying rat lose a lot of steam
MIllie was probably still the one communicating with Selen in the doc we were shown, as for why she was the one specifically who was approving it, I'm not sure though

We already know for a fact that Elira owns the EN discord (she created it) so any communications there are going through her

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>>69120668
death penalty

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>>69120674
WAIT HANG THE FUCK ON
Remember in the Zaion document she complained about how her """manager""" wasn't responding so she went to a higher level manager and got what she wanted right away?
And then she got in trouble for not following the chain of command.

Did Zaion skip over the clique and piss them off?

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>>69121805
It's been hypothesized that one of the big reasons Zaion had to go was that she spoke japanese, and thus could do that sort of thing. It would make sense.

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>>69121805
yes and she said in the doc that every meeting with her manager was shadowed by his manager, her manager definitely wasn't a liver but she probably got her death warrant sealed as soon as she went above that other manager who would shut everything down

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>>69121566
Elira is the direct communication with management.

The communication line would look something like:

Selen -> Millie -> Elira -> Management

Selen obviously can't go directly to Elira, she'd feel her clique and time are being disrespected.

Zaion got terminated for going above management (listed in the termination notice). She bypassed Millie because she could communicate directly to management without Elira.

Thats why Selen, and perhaps Pomu Nina, and Mysta, were also stuck

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>>69121187
Hi 4channers
She is /here/

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>>69122028
Yeah, even if your manager isn't another Liver, its likely they report to Elira because she's been there so long and probably seems "helpful"

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I think the only reason Yugo didn't get the character assassination that Zaion and Selen did was because they laywered up. Yugo was also fluent in Japanese

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>>69121805
screenshotting before it floods

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>>69122367
>They
Is it also possible that because of >muh lgbt that the clique believed her to be harder to attack?

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>>69121035
I have to admit the GURRAT is impressive in that it's minimally retarded itself while also feasibly explaining all the VERY retarded shit that NijiEN has been doing.

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All the graduated livers weren't fluent in Japanese. They likely had to toe the line with the clique to get anything done, or at worst to not get actively sabotaged

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>>69121805
I wonder if its revealed that all the terminations were from not bowing to the clique, could Zaion and Yugo possibly sue for wrongful termination?

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>>69122367
Yugo didn't get character assassination because he broke actual contract. He had to fulfill contractual obligations with his band, which Nijisanji required him to no longer have obligations with in order to be in Nijisanji. If you do your reps, you'll find the tweet where he says it, and this is backed up by several other applicants who backed out from similar requests by Nijisanji, namely Cy Yu, who refused to get out of his contract with Mihoyo.

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These rrats should be good if they're so popular. Time to take a look at them

>Millie used the word "confirm"
>Random sister online used the word "confirm" to shit on Selen.
>They are the same person

Never bother me with your trash again

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>>69122479
I doubt it. People who buy into that shit do it as a cudgel to gain power over others, they have no problem annihilating any fag that steps out of line. I can almost guarantee that her weird gender issues played no part, or at least not in comparison to her ability to physically walk into a JP lawyer's office with a sheaf of papers and ask for a consultation.

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>>69122765
It would make sense that anyone getting terminated was being terminated because they are a threat rather than any heinous wrongdoing.

Vox does rape ASMR, nothing happens

Finana makes a groomer discord, nothing happens

Shouldn't they have been terminated too given the points listed in Zaion's termination?

Fulgur also just posted letting us know Scarle is okay using his PL. Shouldn't he get terminated?

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>>69120674
Ok, the forensic analysis of Millie's writing seems sketchy at best, but that message on the sisters site has to be someone familiar with the situation. It might actually be a Niji organ.

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>>69122479
You got it
It's just like with Amy Hennig and Neil Druckmann: Proclaim to fight for the rights of marginalized people while simultaneously treating them like stepping stones

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>>69122806
So we exlude Yugo

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>>69122367
False or Mizuchi, I forget who but someone else with insider info DID say recently that someone else was going to get the Zaion treatment but avoided it due to lawyering up. I remember people /here/ suspecting it was Yugo.

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>>69123204
Yeah, it was Nux who said that

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>>69122982
It depends on the things you post and do on your PL. Yugo posted about going back into the studio, which was directly against his contract. Zaion used her PL to like tweets criticizing Nijisanji, which may be against her contract as it can be seen as slanderous.
>>69123159
Yes. Never forget to do your reps.

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>>69123204
It makes sense, Selen lawyered up and the immediate response was termination so there's no reason to belive anyone who got to graduate laywered up.

The whole band thing would be a convenient cover since they wouldn't have any other real way to terminate Yugo without smearing him

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>>69122823
Hi Millie you're going to have to refute the other points instead of the easiest one you could possibly dumb it down to.

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>>69122982
We have to take Fulgur's tweet with skepticism since it could have been mandated by the clique, Aster joined in to the hashtag for Scarle pretty damn quick so Fulgur or someone in the company gave him a heads up

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>>69123592
Its just showing inconsistencies in people doing things other people were terminated for, its showing that you don’t actually get terminated for doing anything bad, you get terminated for being a threat to the clique

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>>69123799
Since so many livers do stuff they SHOULD get terminated for, I wouldn't be surprised if its all in a little black book that gets pulled out the MOMENT you rebel against the clique.

What if Livers thought a lot of that shit was okay and now has no choice BUT to listen to the clique because if they don't, those transgressions will be translated to management?

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>>69123799
This isn't how it works. Fulgur's tweets so far are not doing anything that is known to be against his contract. He is not:
>streaming as Cu
>liking tweets that are slandering Nijisanji
>posting about doing things he will get paid for that are not Nijisanji
He is:
>talking to Scarle's PL discord account which was changed briefly to look like her IC discord account that she has been locked out of
>posting it on Cu

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>>69123592
Didn't Fulgur claim to be good friends with Scarle, as in, not because of Nijisanji? HE was messaging her from his personal account there

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>>69123592
Aster might have been tracking everyone's PL accounts or the #WhereIsScarle hashtag.

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>>69124065
That would make sense considering everyone thought Nijisanji was the FREEDOM company

Once you find out, you get in line or get fired

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>>69123585
Not Millie but the other points is just conjecture and assumptions. The only thing that could be considered evidence is that lady saying cliques exist in Nijisanji. This rrat is genuinely retarded

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>>69122823

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>>69124133
Would that be considered a Nijisanji collab? Cu and Scarle? Are they allowed to do that without permission from management?

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>>69124418
>all rrats are real until disproven

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>>69121805
That makes perfect sense.

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>>69121566
The rrat was never about them being actual managers.

LK, the leaker whose leaks have been proven, mentioned "liaison", "ad hoc management", and "shadow manager". He never corroborated them being actual managers in the EN branch.

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>>69121130
>>69120674
This is why the holos all have some level of japanese speaking

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>>69124580
It's certainly a risky move, and feels like management might go after him for it. Though they'd be fools to do so, since he basically covered their asses by "confirming" that Scarle was on break rather than a stealth suspension.
Maybe he's just gambling that they won't do anything about it and potentially stir up more drama right now, or maybe he has some other reason for taking the risk.

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>>69124418
You lack the information of the gurrat, look deeper.

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>>69125538
yes I said this earlier today in a random thread too, the liaison post is what I'm basing this theory from

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Whenever I said manager, I was equating it to shadow manager, and I imagine others were too. Guess I should have been more clear.

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>>69125538
>>69125757

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>>69125706
Because he cares about her. As a good friend should. That overrides bowing completely to the clique, and he was able to paint it in such a way to not anger them.

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Assuming bilingual English Japanese capability is what got Elira into queen bee position, what does this say about Petra?

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>>69125993
Enna and Millie pushing Elira into the lead role while being snakes and sniping others makes sense.

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>>69126137
We still don't know, but she's clearly in anguish over the situation, with her pl posting.

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>>69126137
Petra is like a little puppy dog leashed to Elira

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>>69126300
an anon told me that wasn't a real post at some point and I still don't know the truth of it.

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>>69126137
Petra is too busy studying, she's not betting her whole life on being a vtuber
Elira is a vindictive bitch (proven by PL drama) who got over-taken by her model sister, got friends in then used them to start establishing control over the branch culture, and is a too deeply cemented into Niji to give it up. She may not have not intended for things to go as far as they did, but as her jealousy increased and the golden opportunity fell into her lap with Noor and the rest of that management team leaving, she couldn't help herself

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>>69120347
>Steals Okayu's costume
Nothing personal, fatto catto

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>>69126137
She did get bullied a lot in the beginning. I imagine they saw her as a potential threat, but once they broke her will and got her to kiss the ring, they let up.

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>>69126190
Enna is an incredibly bitter and miserable person despite getting to the point of ''making it''. I don't think anything needs to be said about how much of a follower sidekick Millie is..she's unironically the little goon behind Nelson who cackles.
How anyone thought the clique wasn't these two who are Elira's IRL friends is staggering. Probably more to do with how defensive the nijien general is over Elira.

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>>69126137
Has she even streamed recently?

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>>69121187
This is my personal ultimate rrat that more than half of the users on /vt/ are vtubers and managers talking shit about each other and viewers. That's why some rrats turn out to be so close to the truth if not the full truth.
It's also easy to plant ideas which I'd imagine some try to do to control a narrative, but from personal experience anons are only smart at the most retarded times, so there is a chance there have been many things hinted at or posted that went completely ignored.

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>>69126656
Can confirm, I'm fucking your oshi right now.

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>>69120899
just say you're a faggot and move on retard

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>>69126741
no...

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>>69126769
He uses the reddit forced meme phrase for tits, that's a given.

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There is no clique. You guys are stupid. This whole shitstorm is the fault of Niji HQ management who don't want any livers to leave and prove they could be successful without nijisanji, that's why they tried making an example of Selen. There is zero motive for Elira to do that or participate in any bullying but more than enough reasons for managers to hate Selen.

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>>69126656
there have been many hint posts that ended up only being realized as the truth in hindsight before, yes vtubers, especially the niji ones are on /vt/ all the damn time
the gsc stream is proof of this alone, with how they copy things exactly as they are phrased on here
not only that, the clique is former 2views- small indie vtubers can't keep themselves away from this board even if it kills them, just look at /wvt/ since it was first created

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>>69126484
It's getting harder to confirm anything with the sisters falseflagging so hard earlier.

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>>69127276
Okay Enna.

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>>69127276

>>69124589

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>>69125868
Almost all of us were. A minority of more extreme rrating have made more radical claims, but it's mostly just NDF and normies hearing about it from containment breakers that are reading the GURRAT in bad faith. The core of the GURRAT (i.e. shadow managers/go-betweens with an outsized amount of power abusing it) hardly even qualifies as schizo when there's as much evidence for it as there is

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>>69127276
Is this management in the room with us right now?

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>>69126137
I think she helped out at first when it was seen as beneficial for everyone. When there were only 6 livers, it probably would have been a good thing and helped get perms faster. NotPetra has the tweet about feeling useless. I suspect she started off as a great helper, but now that there's rot, she wants out

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>>69127276
>There is zero motive for Elira to do that or participate in any bullying
Despite having the advantage of being the debuting gen Elira wasn't even in the top 3 most popular female livers lol. She had plenty of motivation when you look at merch and how she's front and center.

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>>69127276
>There is zero motive for Elira to do that or participate in any bullying
And yet she did.

[Anonymous No.]

happy black history month from all us here at nijisanji

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>>69124133
I like Fulgur now, because he apparently cares about Scarle, and she appears to trust him. One of the few times I approve nepohires, he made a good choice in getting her in.

Scarle deserves to relax and take care of herself. She is the only liver right now that has zero infractions in my mind. She has been nothing but honest, gentle, and principled where it really matters. Bigger balls than the actual males in that shitty branch.

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>>69127483
Already disproven by doki's tweet.
>>69127639
Doki was communicating with Japanese lawyers, this means she already has a way to bypass this alleged clique. Face it there is no clique trying to shut out their coworkers from communicating with JP HQ.

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>>69127603
So many haven't been here for the birth of the Grand Unifying Rrat.

[Anonymous No.]

Elira's motive has already been established so well we dont don't need to waste time going back over it

btw here's the previous threads
>>68996770
>>69014403
>>69029124

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>>69127878
I just hope he can protect her from the clique and the sexpest.

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>>69127754
>>69127780
You don't watch Elira or any of the other livers. They care for each other and the only reason this is happening right now is because management is holding them hostage, turning them against each other.

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>>69124580
He's not streaming, so no, none of this is a collab or requires permission from management. If he was to stream as Cu, regardless of if Scarle was there or not, he would immediately get terminated.
>>69127878
Fulgur has always been good, he's just bad at words since he thinks too much. It's why every statement he's made so far boils down to "I can't stop saying words"

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>>69120674
>health issues in my family on the 27th
>Scared of the results and test and the results where the #1 thing I feared
consider
>Actually keeping to keyfab and health issues in family was about selen
>#1 thing she feared was selen's suicide attempt failing

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>>69128002
JWU
Why threads like these are getting deleted everyday? Are they really /here/?

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finally the gurrat posters are waking back up

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>>69128051
cope

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>>69127754
And how now with Selen and Pomu gone, the top 3 female NijiEN livers are Elira, Enna, and Millie

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>>69128178
>getting deleted
how new?

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>>69122806
Yugo had the original ESL management. We have the receipt for that from the one where he got berated for being bad at twitter

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>>69127923
I know, its depressing

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So the way to avoid all the tape is to find a mod, indie or contact that can translate stuff for you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69128178
Because people keep talking about Yugo. His termination is not related to his actions as a vtuber, so they keep taking down the threads.
>>69128317
Do reps or shoot yourself.

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>>69127285
Yeah the secret gc was wild when I first saw it, but pretty much confirmed the rrat for me. No matter how much you just read 4chan, you'll eventually want to post since its anonymous.
>>69128051
How do you think they're being held hostage?

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>>69128378
You can avoid the tape by going to Japan.

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>>69128002
This is my theory about the pyramid of power

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>>69127891
The running theory is that Zaion was partially terminated for speaking directly to a jp manager, as something that sounds like that is in her own account. This would legitimize Elira’s control, cuz if not even a japanese speaker was allowed to bypass elira as the mediator, there’s no way she’d let someone bypass her by just using someone else as translator. This obviously doesn’t apply in selen’s case because she was already a foot out the door so it didn’t really matter if getting her lawyer to talk to the jp lawyers would make elira mad

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>>69128232
And people wonder why Enna pinned herself laughing in delight on twitter 4 hours before Selen's graduation was made public.
She was riding that dopamine of winning the war.

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>>69127276
I don't think Elira is any position to make decisions. However she's in a position to receive favors and be seen as good employee, especially in front of JOP managers. Zaion's termination smells more like a newcomer manager who wanted to save face in front of higher-up. She wouldn't have shut up about it if she was managed by a liver instead of proper, but terrible, manager.

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>>69128051
>they care for each other
>immediately backstab your former coworker
I hope you stays in nijisanji forever Elira

[Anonymous No.]

>>69128572
Checks out

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>>69128580
Whats Elira gonna do, terminate the lawyer for going over hwr head? LMAO

[Anonymous No.]

>>69128572
I literally don't know who the dude right of Vox is kek

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>>69128315
>>69128412
This incident confirms that some NDF are jannies, probably working for Nijisanji, like how Deadbeat jannies used to delete anti-Mori threads years back.

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>>69128572
Eh I doubt people will because they love Pomu but if they're being honest to themselves she was clearly a good helper with how tight the two were.

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>>69128502
yup and I can tell you for certain that vtubers talk to each other about what they read on 4chan, when more vtubers find out from their friends about 4 chan they will go check it out even if they've never been exposed to it before because of the slim chance for advertising when you have nowhere to start as a literal 0view
beyond that at the higher level of indie vtubing, seeing discussion about themselves is going to have them trying to set a narrative whether they self post or stay anonymous
many such cases on /wvt/

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>>69127276
>>69127780
>most popular female streamer isn't a part of the clique
>Constant shilling Enna to push her subs higher than Selen's didn't work
>Take to trying to force her to quit
>Realize even if she quits she'll be popular so you get spiteful and terminate her with a character assassination since it worked with Zaion
>backfires hard

Saying Elira didn't have a motive is hogwash.

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>>69128739
Ike, one of the snakes alongside Elira and Vox

[Anonymous No.]

>>69120697
sure there'd be some draw, then everyone would just get bored and leave one JRPG playthrough #23 8hrs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69128572
Revolver Lucalot is a triple agent

[Anonymous No.]

>>69128749
Read >>1 again.
>Please note that discussion should pertain to a VTuber's streams and content, and should not pertain to their real lives, relationships, or appearances ("IRL").
>>69128739
That's Ike lol

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>>69127276
How do you explain the constant push for sponsorship and merch for clique member then?

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>>69128675
Yeah, we know that to be higher in the clique, you have to have seniority, be a nepo hire, or be luxiem.

Everyone fluent in Japanese would have to be seen as not a threat to not get Zaiond

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>>69128857
>>69128965
Oh, the third voice in the hit piece. Huh, I've watched a lot of nijiEN but somehow I can't recall ever watching something with him.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69128502
Read up on what black companies do to torture and enslave their employees.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69128712
Uh, terminate selen for going over her head?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69129099
This is right

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>>69128927
Thats why he's???. Idk if he actually WANTS us to know whats going on or is just bored XD

[Anonymous No.]

>>69129234
go back

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>>69128749
>like how Deadbeat jannies used to delete anti-Mori threads years back.
god I wish that was true, to this day /morig/ still gets schizo jannies who leave up dox while banning people calling it out kek. That perception is mostly because jannies tend to delete threads that blatantly dox HoloMyth in general, which lots of anti-Mori threads used to do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69128755
She made a PL tweet about how she was sorry she couldn't do more. I think she was toeing the line and then decided to get out because she couldn't fix it

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>>69129099
This. Getting any sort of translator or representative would just be painting a target on your back.
And has been demonstrated by the Selen situation, going forward with a lawyer would just freak out JP and make them think you're gearing for war, even if all you wanted was an HR meeting.

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>>69128965
>ctrl+f "yugo"
>only 4 results
You are a nigger and should kys.
>Please note that discussion should pertain to a VTuber's streams and content, and should not pertain to their real lives, relationships, or appearances ("IRL").
Where in my post I implied doxxing retard? Where's your reading comprehension?

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>>69128580
That's stretching it a lot. There are plenty of vindictive people and niji actively cultivates them. Zaion could defend herself in front of upper manager if the only person trying to get her fired was a liver. The person who complied that list must have been somebody with higher position than a "mere" streamer.

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>>69031328
>>69031538
>>69031667
>>69031942
>>69035284
Pomu speaks relatively decent Japanese and had a personal manager that she respected and was thankful for.
Not to mention she was from the same wave as Elira and established herself before Elira could take root and sprawl.
She was outside the clique, tried to be professional and abstain from it, likely didn't realize how bad it was, and Elira liked her so she never want after her.
She still ultimately left because even without being throttled by the clique, she still didn't see a dreamy future with the company.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69110833
>https://logs.ivr.fi/?channel=39daph&username=39daph
Asking rrats for help in sifting through this shit to see if there is anything of value. Relevent logs start on the 12th

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>>69128965
its not consistent at all because my attempts at posts which did not mention the GUR directly were taken down, meanwhile nijisister dramabait posts and the drama thread about Scarle was left up all day

[Anonymous No.]

>>69124133
I remember someone with a writing style very similar to Fungus, back after "all our war" leaked, writing comments here trying to calm people down and saying that it was just friendly competition and no one at Niji hated Holo or anything. Wonder if he's actually a decent dude.

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>>69129471
Upper management obviously would take Elira's word, Zaion was an upstart meanwhile Elira had a hand in building NijiEN

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>>69128110
>Health issue in the family
>Explained later it was her dog
>Can't even say straight out it was her dog or my dog is like family to me but have to hide it. Wtf is this woman normally this dramabait for a dog.
>Heavily implied it was a person

What does she means by this

[Anonymous No.]

>>69129637
Especially if Elira gets backed up by her clique and other managers that she "helps"

[Anonymous No.]

>>69128572
I'll put LK as the double agent, thanks

[Anonymous No.]

>>69129529
oh god not 39daph getting into this, she's fucking brain dead

[Anonymous No.]

>Exonerating fungus covid
Fuck off nenmen

[Anonymous No.]

>>69128110
I will award you 50 points out of a perfect 100.

Yes, Elira referred to Selen's hospitalization in those tweets.
No, she was not dejected that the suicide attempt had failed.
She was anxious and fearful of the eventual negative repercussions for her and her posse of bullies. She didn't expect Selen to do something so drastic, she thought they could continue harassing and sabotaging her until she quit on her own accord or did something rash enough to warrant a termination.


Incidentally, Elira had already previously gathered most of the livers, excluding Selen, to discuss just how problematic Selen was, and how they should all make a joint statement to management to intervene. They used the second (unofficial) discord server that Elira had created, and that was generally used for liver feedback, complaints, and support.
I don't know how the scenario that Elira wanted to drive Selen to suicide gathered steam, but it's not factual. She wanted her gone from the company.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69129671
That she views Selen as a bitch aka- female dog

[Anonymous No.]

>>69129792
LK gets his own tier

[Anonymous No.]

First Silver dislike button in vtubing?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69129811
^
sadly its relevant because she is friends with kyo, nina and apparently others in niji. So she has some inside knowledge.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69129835
Never contribute to malice what you could to incompetence...

But if theres an actual paper trail of that, it would be really bad for that to be found out by JP

[Anonymous No.]

>>69129584
He's decent. He's just gay, and thinks too much about things since he's supposedly stuck inside all day, so all he can do is post. I've never had any trouble working with him.[/spoiler[

[rick woo No.]

hey gais im from nijisanji and i have a leak does anybody know a good plumber

[Anonymous No.]

>>69130129
Yeah, Selen not wanting to sue and possibly screw great people like Fulgur makes a lot more sense than her sitting on something so winnable and just not going for it.

I would be so mad if he was terminated and they attempted to Zaion him

[Anonymous No.]

>>69129765
Yeah, all it takes is several talents "independently" telling managers that Zaion is a problem and they're worried about her ability to follow the rules, and then suddenly she's under a microscope for any mistakes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69127276
You're so right anon, I can't think of any motive at all

[Anonymous No.]

>>69128755
Pomu was probably kinda part of the clique, but was probably the one keeping them in check. But the rot festered too much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69130129
>thinks too much
roru
Maybe he should think more before he speaks, fatass faggot.
Also the fucking sliminess of him trying to het the heat off management's back by using his pl and contacting scarle.
Fucking broke your leg and die you fat cunt.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69130329
And enough people are in the clique that the microscope is BAM there

[Anonymous No.]

>>69130270
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQSTSxqIyCg&ab_channel=Movieclips

[Anonymous No.]

>>69128824
Also this explains why Selen didn't get the Hello Kitty collab when it was the one thing she really wanted.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69129637
It would be taken into consideration, yes. But if it was just that, they would most likely took Elira off her back first and replaced her with proper manager. This was a case of some poor Japanese shitter not being able to handle her. She was part of a new gen and suspended outright. If Elira had that much direct power and free time it would be far more obvious.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69130367
Makes sense given everything went to shit as soon as she left

[Anonymous No.]

>>69130473
You're assuming nijisanji management is competent anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69130328
My read of Selen's final statement is that she values protecting the wellbeing of herself and the good people still in NijiEN (and hell, even some less good people she might have conflicted feelings about) more highly than the total destruction of the thing responsible for her suffering, which I respect immensely. Dramafags were saying she pussied out but I think that was a much braver thing to do than to lower herself to their level.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69130329
That would explain by she felt so betrayed. I think she was friends with Finana and then Finana went clique as soon as they decided they wanted her out

[Anonymous No.]

>>69126656
I would not be surprised if many of these "Crazy Rrats" are just livers finally spilling the beans in safe cryptic spurts and guiding us in the right direction so they will not be sifted out. If any of you are Liver Double agents... o7

[Anonymous No.]

>>69130129
Did he, in fact, love Sana?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69130677
>Faggot
>Loving woman
?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69120347
The permission denial from a "manager" came from Millie. Millie was the one who rejected Selen's video on Christmas. The mistakes in English and typing styles are the same. Selen would not dare to directly defy a Japanese salaryman, but she would defy another talent who was clearly just sending her back to bureaucratic hell to hurt her feelings.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69127190
>reddit forced meme phrase
You have to go back.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69130447
Be nice. We're already aware that she was locked out of her accounts, even if it was just briefly, and since he's her close friend, he contacted her outside of work to make sure she was okay.
>>69130677
He's gay.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69121258
Lol, probably. No lawyer worth their salt would have instructed them to do any of this shit show.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69130642
Tbh, I would have gone for the money. The people in the wrong would be done, and I'd pay some of it out to the people who were still good as xompensation for fucking over their current job lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>69130758
Forgot to attach the picture.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69130796
Fuck off fungus you fat cunt.
You;re trying to earn brownie point from management, don't think I can't see your play here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69129425
You have no idea (probably) just how important this post is.

Keyword : Representative

Did Selen ever mention wanting to get an assistant or representative?
What reactions would that have elicited?
How does Selen getting an assistant/rep affect the power structure and chain-of-command?


Stumbling upon a piece of the puzzle accidentally is still valid, luck is a skill, after all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69124580
*Sigh
Haven't you forgotten to ask someone more important?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69130473
Didn't Zaion say that she got a new manager who was very inexperienced?
The clique is one thing, but we shouldn't rule out basic corporate incompetence here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69129471
Right, Zaion could easily defend herself in front of japanese upper management. I cannot ever see how that would go poorly. And against a member who has been in the company for longer? Yes, japanese management is famous for being fair and equal to all, if they can just argue their case. I see no problem here

[Anonymous No.]

>even if Niji manages to win a legal battle against Doki, any clique members involved in the lawsuit will likely end up ala Lulu or Roa and be unable to stream for years

[Anonymous No.]

>>69130575
I'm assuming that the management will not let livers make bigger decisions than them simply out of spite. Elira as a in-between with important opinion makes sense. Making direct decision without overseer does not. Unless she's really employed as the branch manager.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69131004
Aster is nobody, lower than even Finana.
The mandatory collab was set up to protect Luca, not Aster.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69130642
The unfortunate thing is that this feels less like some honorable act and more like doki trying to avoid confrontation at all. It seems like a lot of the niji en members try to avoid confrontation as much as possible, which is how the bullying got so out of hand in the first place.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69130447
I don't blame the Liver's for giving into the blackout pr retweet. How many of them have enough good will to survive the characater assassination style terminations they do? How mamy have enough money to be okay while stealth suspended, waiting for termination so they can go back to PL and finally make money again?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69130882
I'm not Fulgur, but I am in the indie sphere. Also, why would Nijisanji JP management look here? They certainly have to have forcibly taken back the branch at this point, right?

[Anonymous No.]

The biggest wrench in this rrat is the fact Pomu and Elira go way back. So why would Elira squash her big life changing thing? Why would she leave and let Elira run everything? If the rrat is true then Pomu was either complicit with the clique or just let them whatever they wanted like a coward. I'm a good judge of character and I think Pomu was one of the good ones. Make it make sense.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69123014
>>69122843
*rapes and beheads you*

[Anonymous No.]

>>69129014
>>69130339
>half-baked numbers that don't even reflect the full opportunities offered to the livers
Why would anyone trust these. Meanwhile management has a far better reason to be against Selen because she was openly rebellious and they feared she would be so successful as an indie that she would torpedo Nijisanji's toxic business model singlehandedly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69126656
It is very plausible that some doxx leaks that happened here were potentially from disgruntled NijiEN members.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69126562
But what has Enna done in all of this? Laugh on a Twitter video? Out of context retard phrases?

I truly want to know because I've been reading rats all week and none of them say what her crimes are except being miserable and Elira's friend.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69131074
But consider, talent managers are already stretched thin and there's no way you're cutting off your profit margin by hiring more managers.
It's easier and safer to just trust the word of nijiEN daisenpai.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69131005
Yes she did and if it was one of her colleagues, we would probably know by now.

[Anonymous No.]

Guys why did Elira crime so much?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69130917
>Did Selen ever mention wanting to get an assistant or representative?
I'm almost 100% sure she did ask about an assistant, and that it also ended up getting denied. Which seems ridiculous, though in retrospect really starts to add up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69130791
no u

[Anonymous No.]

>>69131182
This is dumb.
Selen was rebellious I give you that, but she's bringing more money and connection compared to Elira. Why cut off your medium sized golden goose especially when talent freedom is pretty much the motto of the branch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69130447
Are you retarded?

If he posted in his niji account people would think he is a skinwalking manesan.
He did what he should have done, as Scarle's friend. He contacted her, made sure she is okay, and let her fans know everything is fine and that their oshi needs a break.

It's not often that I praise people from this company, but in this instance he acted accordingly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69131290
Because Elira is a corporate whore. This bitch who is so desperate for fame, sucked and fucked her way to the top of Nijisanji EN, offering her body to gain favor with and manipulate management. This explains why she is the Queen of the Clique ordering Millie and Enna to bully those she does not like and to fuck the management that she doesn’t want to. It also explains why she gets away with bullying inside the company. She is a fucken evil slut anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69130758
>>69130864
My problem with this is that the 'manager' messages are written in a more businesslike voice than I think Millie would usually bother with.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69129529
I thought anons were getting worked up over her collab with magni but nope, this is the most insane shit I've ever read
>Doki is "essentially" slandering dozens of people
>ignores the fact that practically EVERY ACCUSATION WAS PUBLISHED BY THE PEOPLE BEING "SLANDERED"
also the cadence and "trust me bro" tone remind me of an irl acquaintance who- surprise - is a nijinigger

[Anonymous No.]

>>69131137
>Pomu was either complicit with the clique
>I think Pomu was one of the good ones
These things are not mutually exclusive, why would Pomu leave if her relationship with the clique was sunshine and rainbows? She was doing fine in Nijisanji and there is no way it is purely derived from the one incident of missing out on a collab that she made that decision, since she hasn't returned to indie yet

[Anonymous No.]

>>69131290
maybe we'll find out once Anycolor launches their lawsuit against her for mismanaging the EN branch

[Anonymous No.]

>>69131136
Fuck off fungus.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69131482
Damn that's kinda hot. Where can I give her my money

[Anonymous No.]

>>69130917
Rep don't need to go through clique = Selen not needing to go through clique = Selen getting stronger

Also = People can go through Selen rather than clique and clique gets found out because they aren't bottlenecking communication anymore.

Also could possibly mean project money goes directly to Selen and the clique can't keep it or scape off the top anymore (if that rrat is true)

[Anonymous No.]

>>69131567

[Anonymous No.]

>>69130746
The ultimate forbidden love.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69131266
I'm not denying that. I'm simply stating that Elira's involvement was most likely just advisory. Zaion went over somebody else's head. Not every incompetence has to be caused to clique, the company is rotted whole.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69131521
like I said, 39daph is braindead
Reading those logs rattled my skull so hard I forgot to post anything about it

[Anonymous No.]

>>69131477
>No you guys, scarle is not stealth suspended she's just visiting her mom. Look how I could contact her through my PL.
Fuck off bootlicker.
May you sink alongside NijiEN.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69131074
No, Elira is shadow manager

[Anonymous No.]

>>69128051
Hahahahahah holy shit hahahahaha

[Anonymous No.]

>>69122806
What if they wanted to cut out people like Cy Yu from joining without ditching their other agencies because that experience and connections could lead to the figuring out that something fishy is going on. If someone has a talent agent for VAing and started working for this shadow management, I bet they would instantly be able to tell something fishy was going on, or would be able to get their agent's opinion on it. To risky to hire someone like that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69128572
>no skinwalked tier
then rosemi belongs in the 'in kahoots' tier. maria too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69131136
Professor?

[Anonymous No.]

anons, we need to find this "manager" and defeat him so we can free Erlira from prison

[Anonymous No.]

>>69131477
This, I really read this as him trying to take some pressure off Scarle and keep her fanbase from totally panicking.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69131466
Because she was making management look bad and incompetent and if there's something that makes Japanese managers hold a grudge, it's that. They would rather slander her and hold the other livers hostage than to accept they are poor managers. It's typical Japanese company behavior, look it up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69131671
Nah, advisory position simply doesn't give you enough to power trip.
Given the rrat that almost half of NijiEN are Elira nepo hires, I believe she got some decision making power too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69131487
The use of exclamation points and the three dots before an exclamation is far from business email writing style. It's less cutesie than her normal tweets, but slightly more serious.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69126137
Petra and Elira went together to Japan on some sort of official trip when Selen termination happened, weren't they? Any rrats on what they were doing?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69131521
>>69131720
yea try to ignore her contrarian tone, she does this shit to get people pissed.
the most important thing is that she is passively leaking shit by saying stupid shit confidently. She is talking to someone on the inside. (probably kyo)

[Anonymous No.]

>>69131477
>>69131737
hey shut the fuck up a little this anon has a point regardless of if they're an insider or not
it opens the door to a much more interesting discussion though, being that what the fuck has been happening on Scarle's end through this situation and why could she not make a statement about not doing her streams yesterday beforehand

[Anonymous No.]

>>69128572
*sigh*
Aster should have his own tier

[Anonymous No.]

>>69124065
>little black book
So this was the essence of the clique: blackmail and control.
Why are menhera women like this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69131964
I'd believe you if Riku didn't do his 90 degrees bow yesterday.
There is disconnect between JP and EN management and JP management simply let EN run the branch however they like.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69128572
Anon out of all the livers that retweeted Elira’s smear campaign the only one with the gall to say “I endorse this message” was Hex. Move that faggot up a few tiers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69131884
>"Free" her from the management
Anon she is fuck them >>69131482

[Anonymous No.]

>>69131967
Yup, if she puts anything to a vote, they vote with her

[Anonymous No.]

>>69132203
And Ren.
He even doubled down on her official account.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69132029
we need a collection of the actual information she says from this because the structure of her messages is garbage

[Anonymous No.]

>>69132122
Imma laugh so hard if one of the reasons he was emo'ing so hard about being 'left out' of everything in those screenshot leaks is because he's such a slimy sexpest even the cartoonishly-evil shadow management clique wanted nothing to do with him.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69131980
I think you're fixating a little too much on the punctuation. The manager tweets sound like someone further removed from things, bothering with a proper greeting instead of just @'ing her, and using 'Livers' which is something only the corpo side of Niji ever really bothers with. And based on the comparison here, the manager tweet would have said 'privated' instead of 'set to private'.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69132127
So they can suck Vox's coxk without consequences

[Anonymous No.]

>>69124065
This is how and why politicians are so corrupt. They trick you into doing something corrupt and then it is too late you are locked in. You either tow the line or you say fuck it and dive right into the swamp.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69120347
The clique living in Luxury times area about to end.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69132203
This is good info, gonna edit the tier list

[Anonymous No.]

>>69131791
No, sadly, that's not how it works. Hololive also has the "no contractual obligations" thing in the contract, but it expires after a certain amount of time, while Nijisanji's doesn't expire at all. Despite Hololive's expiry, there's still things you can't do without breaking contract, namely using a Live2D model for streaming on PL, which extends several months after the contract ends. I'm not sure if this was the case in Mikeneko's case, because it's been a while, but all other cases have followed that exact format.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69132484
No more 3 months paid vacation.
No more moving out every half a year.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69131655
This guy gets it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69129529
Looking through it, it doesn't seem like daph knows that it going on and is just retarded
>If she has proof of harassment that people refuted, why does she not show it
It's a legal case.
>because I genuinely also dont understand how can you file a court case and say you want to move on as if its not ongoing. Im sorry girlie thats not how legal matters work, you cant decide on a whim when u want it to be convenient
Doki is saying she want to move on (publicly). Niji is the one bringing shit up
>Also you cant accuse dozens ppl of harassing you without proof when their livelihood is directly affected
Again, this was all said by nijisanji, not doki. If Niji had ignored it, none of this would have been know to the public
>No the company didnt leak shit
Yes. Everything that Daph is arguing should be kept private, is what niji had brought up.

Conclusion: Daph doesn't know anything or told anything. If she was told something, it was wrong information, and can't help for rrats

[Anonymous No.]

>>69132365
Probably why OP asked for rrats helps.
This shit is so insufferable to read through.
But he's right. She is very confidently opposing things that have been proven as if she knows more.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69132571
This is false, AZKi and Matsuri are currently moonlighting using live2D

[Anonymous No.]

>>69132142
>force your livers to release a message slandering themselves
>look better in comparison when you do your corpo investor apology later
It's not rocket science, it's literally how Japanese companies operate. The majority of people can see what is going on, only rrat-obssessed schizos think otherwise. Management are manipulating everything to throw the livers under the bus and show them that they have all the cards.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69132381
He's not hot or rich a la Vox. The clique are tumblr-esque terminally online women, after all

[Anonymous No.]

Assuming Selen would have looked for a representative, how likely would it have been for them to be one of the livers?
We know only a few of them can speak JP and could bypass management, would she have a reason to believe any of the ones who do would have taken the risk of siding with her?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69132765
Enter Petra...

[Anonymous No.]

>>69132742
The fuck are you smoking? It only serve to make your company seems disorganized.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69131137
Shadow management (Elira) and management proper (Harry) are two different things.
Harry was the one who Pomu could have had problems with.
>>/vt/thread/68033404#p68035166

[Anonymous No.]

>>69131791
Simpler answer is that by cutting off a talent from their other sources of income, they make them much more reliant on Niji for their finances, and can otherwise exert more control.
Figuring out there's something fishy doesn't matter as much as them not having the means to do anything about it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69126562
Millie is a classic low self esteem side kick to a more popular girl. Someone that can easily be turned into a work slave and will be grateful for it. Her being the main enforcer makes sense.
>>69131241
Enna is such a bitch on public streams that people were suspicious of her for a while. She's more confident and extroverted than Millie so I'd expect her to be in voice chat constantly acting as a main group organizer when Elira isn't there. Sitting in every group voice chat to make sure people never feel safe criticizing the clique. Make sure that the clique dominates all off stream social interaction. This is where I'd expect to find Enna. Millie gets stuck with the boring paper work type stuff and gets sent to more directly hassle other talents. Whoever is the main enforcer is going to be somebody that other talents resent the most, someone that they would struggle to have fun with on stream. Millie as the bottom of the totem pole of the clique gets this unpleasant task.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69132890
people need to differentiate between talent manager and management.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69120347
she might be retarded but them titties aint retarded

[Anonymous No.]

>>69132765
If someone agreed to be Selen's representative, they would have been Zaiond

The clique relies on bottle necking the information flow because if there's another source, they'll get found out

[Anonymous No.]

>>69132702
thanks for your service.
If it makes you feel better. the himbo boy friend she pulled is a bum and his previous girlfriend (extra emily) has him on a dicktier list that she shows to everyone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69132733
Maybe that clause wasn't in their contracts because they're older, but Bettel had a live2D before but all his roommate streams have been IRL, and after his graduation Vesper used a PNG for several months even though he had a perfectly good live2D

[Anonymous No.]

>>69132881
OH MY GOD SOMEONE MAKE SURE SHE'S OKAY!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>69132733
Then it's probably just a thing for the English branch, since I know nothing about the Mikeneko case. Currently, there's 9 cases on the English side of things that confirm you can't use Live2D until a certain amount of months post-contract.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69133103
AZKi contract was renewed on late 2022

[Anonymous No.]

>>69132920
NoT a BlAcK cOmPanY

[Anonymous No.]

>>69133202
And we know that Hololive contracts remain typically rigid and similar between renewals because of the English branch. AZKi has probably had the exact same contract since she was brought in.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69132300
Ren clarified that he wasn’t being skinwalked (in a bitchy way kek) but his message along with the retweet was the same basic “hey listen to this” that everyone else was putting out. Hex’s was the only one that explicitly said he supports it IIRC

[Anonymous No.]

>>69133327
No anon, her 2022 contract is the big one that formalized her transfer from INNK to HoloPro.
For all intent and purposes it's roughly the same as signing new chuuba.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69133202
sure, but if there wasn't a clause in there before it would give her leverage against having it added in at renewal. Besides contractual obligations you can't really explain Vesper/Randon being a PNG for a few months after graduating, then switching back to the same live2d he had before

[Anonymous No.]

>>69133523
Oh? Is that so? I'm happy for her, then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69132889
>Kurosanji
>not being incompetent
Duh?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69133577
My rrat is that has to do with them declining the contract so Holopro forced them to sign non-compete clause for a few months.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69133023
With the way Zaion got smeared by the clique, I doubt anyone in NijiJP management would have taken her seriously. Of the ones I know speak JP I was wondering if Selen would trust Petra, Shu or Rosemi to go with the hail mary, is there anyone I am missing?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69133769
>All 3 are conveniently missing except for the retweets
Huh

[Anonymous No.]

Realistically, how do you think a conversation would go between selen and elira that was bullying?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69132727
>>69132702
yeah daph is literally making a bigger rrat than the unifying rrat with these messages, though some of the things are interesting
I'm working on a screenshot of only the logs where she's talking about it so other anons can pick at it

[Anonymous No.]

>>69133285
The public boot licking she has done implicates her as an underling. Elira is the main boss and keeps her hands clean publicly mostly. Millie is the one bullying Selen in public right after denying her perms, the one on stream defending Niji constantly. These are necessary but unpleasant tasks for the clique that will draw criticism so Millie gets stuck with them since she is a lapdog.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69133769
Idk about Shu since he's an Elira nepo hire.

Apparently, the Rose has chosen to side with the clique but this could be the thing that pushed her to do so

[Anonymous No.]

>>69133942
Just watch their single 1-on-1 collab to get the feel on that anon.

[Anonymous No.]

New Shadow conglomerate with LK tier

[Anonymous No.]

>>69134176
>no *sigh* tier

[Anonymous No.]

>>69128051
Elira could've easily said "nope, fuck this", resigned, and hitched a ride to the Canadian embassy to head home instead of posting the equivalent of slapping the AZ-5 button in Chernobyl on her Youtube page. Anycolor isn't fucking Hamas.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69133917
Yeah, I noticed that but I'm a normalfag who just watches clips, I don't know how they get along, from a clip I saw and with the context now, Petra and Selen seemed to maybe not have the best relationship but she seemed like she might have a guilty conscience if the PL tweet is true, I also saw the forensics yesterday and Shu with an emote fitted on the leaked screenshot on Elira's stream but that's a longshot since they are probably shadow managers and don't have management accounts. I'd appreciate if anyone who knows more context can entertain my train of thought

[Anonymous No.]

>>69131137
Don't put too much stock into the people treating this like it was Elira's plan from the start. She was exposed to power, and her other friends enabled her corrupt tendencies. Corruption due to peer pressure is a very common thing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69134249
That doesn't give us any actual info on where Aster is on the corporate ladder lmao

[Anonymous No.]

The fact that if any of the livers are /here/ the fact one of the lesser involved ones could be finding out just like we are, and connecting dots like we are.
If thats happening, the branch is doomed already, as a certainty.

[Anonymous No.]

Niji en insider here. Elira is trying to sacrifice Enna and Millie by blaming the worst of the bullying on them in order to save herself. She hopes her proximity to JP management will help her pull the wool over their eyes as to how deep her involvement goes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69130129
>Gay
That explains it
There is one group of people that hate women and their cliquey bullshit and that's the fags.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69120674

[Anonymous No.]

>>69130917
>>69131350
>>69131653
finding where she mentioned trying to get an assistant is something to dig for, then?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69134384
I mean, we can see that from the way she self reported yesterday.
She's trying to drag Enna and Millie kicking and screaming.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69134042
I don't want to sit through that. You got like a couple sentences you can recall that would be a good example?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69134313
Yeah, it doesn't make sense to have been planned from the start given they had actual managers in the beginning. Also, the more people under you, the more the power YOU have grows. It would have been more of a team effort type thing in the beginning

[Anonymous No.]

>>69134035
Do you personally think Selen would have known that Rosemi chose her side though? with what I read, Scarle didn't but given how smart her fans say she is, that doesn't tell me much.

[Anonymous No.]

Lmao I told ya niggas 3d will always be pd, no matter the shape or form

[Anonymous No.]

>>69133962
Your doing gods work.
I couldn't get past the contrarian vibes. Im pretty sure at one point she says "i don't take things for face value!" as she takes everything the livers and anycolor says at face value

[Anonymous No.]

>>69134313
exactly, the most sensible rrat is that the sheer incompetence on display here is due to Elira falling upwards into this position

[Anonymous No.]

>>69134384
Thats not surprising desu. JP might believe because of seniority, bit if they ask literally anyone else who doesn't benefit from the clique management, they'll be screwed.

[Anonymous No.]

guys I used ... for the first time in my 5 picoseconds of existence. am I even me anymore?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69134337
high enough to harass Scarle without repercussions

[Anonymous No.]

>>69134537
Nothing jumps at the moment but the mood was terse.
I get the feeling Selen model was supposed to be given to one of Elira nepo hire.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69134176
petra is in school and will abadon niji once she gets a decent job. She's just watching the shitshow.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69130129
Fulgur you cant work with yourself schizo. Now get back to writing more fanfic, I loved those streams.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69134690
He used?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69134698
Retard, that stream was to protect Luca.
The clique couldn't give a shit to sexpest like Aster.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69134497
Definitely, if this happened before her termination, it would make the clique turn up the dial to 9000 to get her to quit before they got caught

[Anonymous No.]

>>69129028
Good for you, honestly. I can't stand that faggot voice of his.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69134269
Don't mix metaphors anon. If you start with a chernobyl metaphor you need to stay with it if it fits, or else drop it and speak plainly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69134497
Hint:

She missed a sponsorship by one day, due to overworking and due to "management" not staying on top of it.
She was dejected and saddened.
She exclaimed that she should look into getting an assistant.

That did not bode well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69134497
I wish I could remember the source. It was a twitter screencap where she was talking about how the request was denied.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69134729
Like the Idubz and Sam Hyde interview's levels of zero chemistry?
I remember skimming one of their collabs out of curiosity how well the "sisters" got along, and found it pretty dull. Weird to thing it could have been because Elira was seething the whole time

[Anonymous No.]

>>69134384
Just look at this post
>>69134313

At this rate EN will implode from all the internal shitflinging first

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>69134906
>>69134915
Now I remember! It was her missing a voice pack by 1 day due to only having 24 hours to reply, right? And her wanting an assistant to help stay on top of things like that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69134601
I'm thinking that asking the Rose may have made her choose her side. If Rose saya yes, she is now against the clique, if she says no, she stays safe, if she reports it, she's now in good graces.

Does the timeline of that leak possibly line up with the HYTE collab? Possible the clique replaced Selen with Rose because Rose showed loyalty?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69134987
I don't who those people are.
For so called sisters, they really do not get along well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69135043
holee shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>69134906
>assistant.
Rrat: Mr. Man has been around longer than the termination. Having worked with the cocaine schizo XQC, he knows the ins and outs of tard wrangling.
He started to see the clique stuff and had a holy shit moment and started telling selen to lawyer up

[Anonymous No.]

>>69120674
I feel like I am a schizo myself now but FUCK MOST OF THE RRATS WERE TRUE I CAN'T STOP BELIBING THEM
I WILL NOT TAKE MY MEDS
Also I just find it genuinely funny that in this rrat Niji just didn't bother to go hire some actual english speaking people to do the job instead letting one of their livers to do it because "well she can be the bridge between both of the parties"
Fuck man I know finding someone that is fluent in 2 languages and able to fulfill the management job is hard but imagine letting a fucking young woman to recreate high school drama off of your business?????
What is even worse? My rrat to add on top of this is it kind of explains why ultimately it took 37 hours to respond to that one permit on the MV. I am not schizo enough to go back and see if these clique bitches were not streaming and not showing up on social medias at all. If they didn't show up my rrat is that they went to party or some shit, so it explains why management stopped working on christmas eve. The jp side manager doesn't know what the fuck selen is asking for and put her on hold.
It is a entertainment industry, management only needs internet to communicate, they don't need to fucking hold a meeting for everything.

I used to not believe in fucking nepotism, it's simple, Lazulight debut in May and Ethyria debut in October, what have elira done to deserve to nepohire and get her friends in?
I still think it's not some direct hire bullshit, but now that I think about it she might've gave some advice about the audition or interviews.

Lastly I hate the fact that anons mentioned this
>Yugo and Zaion are fluent in japanese and they can bypass the clique
THE RRATS NEED TO GET OUT OF MY HEAD

[Anonymous No.]

>>69134313
Especially if all three of you started your life as tumblr/twitter cancel brigaders, which we all know is about the feeling of power more than any issues of justice. Can't imagine a worse lot to suddenly stumble into 'real power' over others.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69134698
Or Scarle is low enough that they don't care or even encourage it. She is the rebel afterall

[Anonymous No.]

https://youtu.be/18SW6z3MUZw
Anyone remember what happen to this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69135152
Year of the Dragoon baby.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69135151
THE UNIFYING RRAT EXPANDS

[Anonymous No.]

>>69134729
No, Selen was the only one of the first 6 girls who was 100% in. Elira just debuted before her but Lazusydia were all hired from the same audition term

[Anonymous No.]

>>69135151
It was not Sovereign, it was iPN

[Anonymous No.]

>>69135119
>I don't know who those people are
Two Internet retards. One doesn't really give a shit about the other, and thinks he's a bit of a twerp. The twerp guy absolutely hates the indifferent guy. Twerp interviewed him, trying to humiliate him, and has been perpetually seething to this day that it didn't go how he wanted.

In that context it sounds a lot like both of our impressions of these two

[Anonymous No.]

>>69134906
Would it even make a difference if the clique keeps taking sponsorships she works hard for for themselves?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69135312
It's just weird to give the sister lore to two strangers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69135139
>>69134906
>>69134497
Best I could do, given her twitter is protected now, though thankfully search engines still offer a peek.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69135151
whhatttt???

[Anonymous No.]

>>69135497
Anons pointed that out at the time, that it was a bad idea. Can't imagine it going worse. Maybe Holo had inside info about it that led to them rejecting FWMC for Advent despite their completely different circumstances.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69135152
DO NOT TAKE YOUR MEDS, ANON
THE SHOW IS JUST GETTING STARTED

[Anonymous No.]

Anons, we all make mistakes. I think it is time to forgive and let go. Ewiwa deserves a second chance.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69135652
>advent
Oops. Meant for promise or earlier gens they applied for.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69135697
But Elira was her second chance

[Anonymous No.]

>>69135697
Slaaneshian harlot, indulger of excess

[Anonymous No.]

>>69135768
Third

[Anonymous No.]

>>69135697
>One tit for each clique member
THE MEDS, IT'S NOT WORKING

[Anonymous No.]

>>69135527
THAT BASICALLY FITS PERFECTLY WITH HER WORKING IN A POOR ENVIRONMENT FOR 8 MONTHS!!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>69130461
I can vouch for these guys. They are Super.

[Anonymous No.]

If the "Learning japanese lets you bypass the clique" rrat is true
Didn't alban knox learn Japanese at an alarmingly fast rate?
Like, somebody dedicated to the cause far more than a normal person would. Almost like he NEEDED to learn japanese for personal reasons.

Compare his tryhard studying compared to the Hololive girls who sometimes learn each others language but more casually and not that dedicated

[Anonymous No.]

>>69130328
>>69130642
That and suing a company as wealthy and powerful as Nijisanji would be tough. Even if you have the winning cards.

[Anonymous No.]

i made rrat king fanart

[Anonymous No.]

>>69135847
Everything about her history i know already seems bad, i don't even want to look up more

[Anonymous No.]

>>69135865
So what happened?
How come the clique suddenly target Selen when she's been at the company for 3 years?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69135527
Timeline:
May 23, 2023
>Selen misses deadline for the voice pack

>Selen requests having a representative sometime close to this

December 26, 2033
>Presumably when Selen tried to unalive for the first time


We need to figure out what happened in between there guys!

[Anonymous No.]

>>69135652
And /vt/ said to Elira
>Where is Selen your sister?
And she said
>How should I know am I her keeper?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69135953
It didn't let you bypass the clique because it was formed by a language barrier but not sustained by it. It became self-perpetuating after a certain point and 'knowing japanese' just meant you put yourself at risk of going over their heads and getting on the shit list. But that might have not been clear to everyone as it was happening.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69135953
I think Nina might have been trying too, Pomu had some Japanese but not great and she's going to school in Japan now

[Anonymous No.]

>>69136064
A perpetual sentiment of
>I wanted to be the popular one! Why is that fat little goober so much more popular?!
Combined with finally having an excuse to try and fuck her over

[Anonymous No.]

this part of the 39daph log is insanely stupid
>after a bunch of the log claiming that the three livers in Elira's statement are representing themselves (which she says she has reason to believe, so someone in Niji prob told her) and not the company, and that's apparently not gonna cause any legal issues at all, they are in the right because Selen is a "creature" with an aura you can just tell you shouldn't associate with them
>Selen should be grateful for the friends she has instead of feeling a bit betrayed that her own co-workers don't give a fuck about her two suicide attempts
When you see this narrative getting parroted, you will know where it comes from.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69136037
I KNEEL

[Anonymous No.]

>>69130642
This probably is both the case, and I think part of the queue graduation is to keep useful hostages so Doki doesn’t cross that line.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69136167
Realistically one might mix in some recalcitrant behavior on the part of the 'targets' that a normal, professional manager would view as simply the normal pain of dealing with talent, but which shadow management clique viewed as a personal attack.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69136078
>Et tu Elira?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69136182
This bitch is RANCID

[Anonymous No.]

>>69135865
Fairly certain I also saw somebody say she got a suspension for venting about missing narrow deadlines, but that's par for the course at this point and I don't think really needs a source.

>>69136075
I figure there are more events on the timeline one could point to in terms of her having troubles with management and scheduling, even prior to May.
That said, her going off about the desire for an assistant would definitely signal frustration with all of the red tape and bureaucracy, and that may be around the point where things started to take a turn for the intolerable.

[Anonymous No.]

I was wondering, should there be a coded general or something? The thread was getting auto pruned by nijimods all day to the point that people were discussing this in hidden channels. Honestly, it just gives credibility to GURRAT since all other rrat threads are not even touched. Why this specific topic?

I think using /rrat/ general or GURRAT would be too obvious and just paints a target on your back. Should the OP be an unrelated topic then invited in by posting cross-threads in other threads, or just make a list of keywords that you can search from the catalog?

[Anonymous No.]

Reminder about the millie GC stream
>>69131081

[Anonymous No.]

>>69136037
good shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>69120674
>mfw this all ends up being true

[Anonymous No.]

>>69136064
She tried to get a representative.

That means the representative would either communicate with Elira clique rather than her and it would be harder to directly harass her

OR

That representative would communicate directly to management, effectively bypassing the Elira clique information bottleneck.

This would cause 3 things:
1. People go through Selen representative to bypass clique
2. Other people also get their own representatives to bypass clique
3. Clique gets puted to management

[Anonymous No.]

>>69135042
Small issue, but the manager stuff is dated for JST and does not mention AM which means it's most likely 12:25 PM (if AM/PM are not mentioned then assume military time).
Millie's tweet, which is in EST, is 12:29 AM which would be 2:29 PM (same day)

[Anonymous No.]

>>69136037
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2DjJhjLXKg

[Anonymous No.]

>>69135527
Now that I think of, the date of these tweets fit in with the last warning given to Selen before termination that was mentioned in the japanese version of the termination notice.
>>/vt/thread/68244655#p68250778

[Anonymous No.]

>>69136283
I think the thing to do would be try to split up the entire thing into multiple, staggered, individual threads, and see which ones stay up.
That might narrow down what exactly is the part that has them concerned.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69136182
>>69136262
Id like to advise, that "THE CREATURE" is how they refer to her boyfriends room mate that they are kicking out so that she can move in.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69136283
You're overthinking it. Just start making an /Elira/ general and feign/genuinely hijack it for rrat posting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69136356
In that case, it seems that rather than the lack of permissions for the MV, the problem really was that she was telling the truth about management, since they were warning her about
>"one more breaking of that rule"
Which would line up with her complaining about missing a 24 hour deadline by 1 hour, and then her complaining that management privated the video.

If that's true, it means she was in trouble for 'defaming' management by having transparency about things management was doing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69136283
/rrat/ is already bae's general, for one thing, so you don't need to be a nijimod to nix that

[Anonymous No.]

>>69136182
>>69132702 (me)
Honestly the entire log has the issue, that she assumes that Doki made some grand statement throwing everyone under the bus and now Nijisanji is doing their best to defend themselves.
If she knew that Nijisanji were the ones to publicize everything (Bullying accusations, suicide attempt etc), she would likely understand that the points she is making are dumb. Every 'thoughtful' question she asks and even says 'Dramatubers should be asking' can be explained instantly by understand who-said-what-at-which-time

[Anonymous No.]

>>69136035
Niji needs to keep all parties hired, Enna, Elira, Millie, Vox and Ike if they don't want to look bad. They are also in positions where streaming would result in hate, and they could say things that would further fuck the lawsuit up. Whether Riku actually wants to put that much money and time into it I doubt it. Anycolours skimming every single thing and spending money seems out of the question for them. And then keeping multiple talents that can't generate money?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69135527
Full tweet text

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>>69136601
yeah this, I give up on making a collective image of all this bs because it's really not worth scrutinizing that hard. I read it all, she's on some higher level schizo shit and that's coming from someone who helped form the GUR

[Anonymous No.]

>>69131543
I don't think you can sue your own employees. Unless they are breaking the law like stealing money or something. If they are just terrible toxic employee's it is Anycolor's job to figure it out and fire them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69120347
Here is one more rrat:
The pool of people who knew Sayus real name as well as her family history is fathomly small and most of them are in nijisanji.
Sayu has never publicly disclosed her real last and middle name, the only people who even knew how she looked like at that time are her 50 viewers she had from her webcam days. Virtually none of those people are still around.
The distribution of the doxx material was professional. They had bots aim for trigger words in replies to her termination. These bots send doxx material and prior to that incidence these bots were fresh. The posting of that material was then done by retarded nijisisters.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69136037
I love this

[Anonymous No.]

>>69136705
>you have 1 day to respond or else you're not getting in >:(
>nooo you can't give me 36 hours to watch an MV :(

[Anonymous No.]

>>69136210
The graduation que seems to have existed for a long time. I think it serves 2 purposes:

1. Fooling JP into thinking everything is fine and that people are happy working at EN

2. Stops past graduates and Niji insiders from leaking anything that could be of detriment to the people inside.

Mysta was posting on his new account after the Selen stuff that this is going to hurt good people, so they are indeed hostages

[Anonymous No.]

>>69130117
>>69129835
You guys get it. Elira is incompetent more than she is malicious. She wanted the prittier and more popular girls bullied out of the company so she could be the best. Guys didn't get that same treatment since she liked to bask in their attention. Don't forget that being a vtuber can get someone a lot of thirst directed at them that they would never experience otherwise. Elira likes being the face of the branch on all the Merch. She wants to be prom queen, her motives don't go farther than this.

She just wanted to get Selen out of the company by torturing and sabotaging her until she quit. She probably felt guilty when Selen almost died because of it. She's a mean girl, not a murderer. She and the rest are only smearing Selen now because she is seen as a threat.

Using some family health crisis without going into detail as a classic sympathetic out from her scheduled responsibilities. People won't question it and will be sympathetic. It's got nothing to do with lore, Niji family, or seeing Selen as a dog. Elira was in full crisis mode when she got news of the attempt.

[Anonymous No.]

Hello rrat bros, schizo from last night here. As suggested yesterday I've compiled a basic write-up of the core rrat and a rentry to place all our evidence.
I'm not autistic enough to complete it on my own however, I already spent far too long on it. I request of you fine gentlemen and sisters to help me complete the missing sections and add the warosu links, screenshots, and other bits of evidence to the document. Nothing without evidence please, nothing too schizo. This is supposed to be our base to work from.

HOW THE FUCK DO I POST A RENTRY LINK IT KEEPS GETTING FLAGGED FOR SPAM FUCK YOU HIROSHIMOOT

[Anonymous No.]

>>69136272
Yeah, cuz in Doki's tweet, she didn't say she was in a toxic work environment for YEARS, she said MONTHS so the harassment would have ramped up after December 2023 for the timeline to make sense

[Anonymous No.]

>>69136808
Holy fuck, no wonder. That level of hypocrisy would be infuriating, especially since the previous incident would get brought up since it's the same infraction.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69136935
ok fine just add /thegodrrat to the end of the rentry url i guess
edit code is thegodrrat have fun.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69136356
Of that was the last warning, do you think the clique upped the harassment to get her to retaliate and be terminated?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69136808
>I really need to step it up and have been slacking
that's what she thinks while being swamped with constant work, trying to juggle streaming and big projects without a real manager
this was ongoing for months and months, easy to see why she resorted to the attempt

[Anonymous No.]

>>69136940
It's possible it started a bit earlier than that. Was there anything that happened in March or April that may have either pissed off the clique or otherwise caused management to start giving her extra focus for potential rule-following?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69136935
I would like to offer >>/vt/thread/69087560 as addition to the gurrat. We probably need a new thread for compiling though, it’s past bump limit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69136566
Maaan, they were setting her up to break a rule to get her out!

[Anonymous No.]

>>69136752
Millie doxxed Zaion. It was by her own initiative and volition.
It was a shitshow and a lot of people were secretly reprimanded. One of the few times the suits stepped in.
It amounted to little, since Sayu didn't have a loud voice, and was not a threat.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69137187
you guys can do it next thread Im just trying to find a way to post this fucking link

[Anonymous No.]

>>69137250
>Millie doxxed Zaion
>Millie doxxed /b/omu
IT ALL MAKES SENSE

[Anonymous No.]

>>69136935
good shit anon, you should be able to post .org
https://rentry.org/thegodrrat

[Anonymous No.]

>>69136601
>>69136730
yea, she sticks to her own conclusion no matter what it seems.
But she is talking about a roommate inbetween talking about doki so its kinda confusing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69137107
It seems plausible.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69137350
thank you anon I'm too retarded to use computers. We can start editing it in the next thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>69136064
She probably got a collab request from a big company that made them angry she's more popular than them kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>69137107
Given the surprising lack of concern from her former coworkers, I might even say that they tried to push her to an hero herself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69136566
This would certainly explain why they’re vague on what her repeated rule infractions are

[Anonymous No.]

reading the rentry and I can't believe I forgot about this
>Also throughout this time, bilingual talents were being used as translators and go-betweens for the English speaking talents to communicate with JOP management
the elira translator liason is not even a rrat

[Anonymous No.]

>>69137651
oops left out (source: Sayu's interview with False, Feb. 5th)

[Anonymous No.]

>>69137651
This and the Elira nepo hire is all but outright stated.
These are the seed that grow into the clique.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69137107
Given that the warning was for mouthing off on twitter, it probably wouldn't even require anything major. Just piling on stress until management inevitably makes a mistake and banking on Selen having a bout of frustration and making an honest tweet about management's fuck up.

>>69137631
Yeah, if the actual reason for the termination was the fact that she making management look incompetent, then they probably didn't want to advertise that fact, and were glad to have other scapegoats like the MV or her lawyering up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69136752
the worst part and this isn't a rrat anymore is that anykara never discouraged their own fanbase from doxxing with the provided material.

whatever is true, it is rotten from deep within.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69137187
>>69137445
There's a rrat collecting thread >>69120405 going on right now where anons have made some new discoveries themselves so we might just move there to organise the effort

[Anonymous No.]

>>69137651
It was really staring at us this whole time, and the only reason we didn't give credit to it is that the clique successfully character assassinated Zaion...

That's probably why they (are still) trying to character assassinate Selen, so that if she comes out with anything, we won't believe her, just like Zaion...

[Anonymous No.]

>>69137210
NTA but I feel like this much was obvious from the get-go. Feels strangely convenient that she got no response for 37 hours and as soon as the cover goes up she gets bonked for it. They were just waiting for it so they could get her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69137651
See this is why i made the rentry, people were forgetting about the actual core rrat that made this so believable to begin with. I wanted to solidify and document it before we move on so that all the evidence is in one place and we don't look schizo

[Anonymous No.]

>>69137729
this is what a day of NDF derailing does to my memory
>>69137801
ah the jannies really did go to sleep, earlier posts mentioning rrat were straight up deleted

[Anonymous No.]

>>69137841
It might have even been a specific shit-test. See if she's able to swallow her pride and say nothing, or if she decides to go on twitter and blame management.
Though what they probably didn't expect was her telling people to re-upload it and then trying to sudoku.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>69137210
>>69137841
this was explicit stated in the original agent LK post

[Anonymous No.]

>>69137801
ok i'll go post there too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69137841
No shit.
This is also why the supposed graduated liver perms never made sense, on the other hand if the clique didn't want to get featured in the mv then they have every right to veto it.

[Anonymous No.]

I wasn't here around the zaion termination because I stopped watching chuubas since mid 2022 to almost Nov 2023, I really need to catch that shit up since I always don't understand the part that evolves around her. Any archives for me to look at or any qrds?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69137408
The only thing I thought was weird was the "This is going to affect 20+ livers", thinking maybe she knew something about how many were mentioned in the documents. But it is very clear that she has no idea, and just wrote 20+ instead of "All livers in the EN branch" because 20+ sounded more evil

[Anonymous No.]

>>69137801
We can just merge into that thread once this one dies

[Anonymous No.]

by the way has anyone come up with anything interesting since last night?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69135176
This is legit why so many companies are imploding right now. This right here. Bad actors/Justice warriors get into a position of power and hire all of their friends and then make life hell for the people that care and they leave or get fired. And once the infestation is complete the whole organization is ruined.

[Anonymous No.]

How many sponsorships has Rosemi had so far, like what she was going to get with Hyte?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69120347
can i still like her?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69135497
The Dance of the Dragons

[Anonymous No.]

>>69135847
??????

[Anonymous No.]

>>69134786
>She was studying to be management :(

[Anonymous No.]

>>69137651
What the fuck? I need screenshots of this shit stat, even without the godrrat this proves exactly how shit management is and that talents literally had to go through other talents for management. Why is a screenshot of this not all over the board already?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69138994
its not a ss it was in false's livestream a few days ago. Elira was not named specifically however.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69138994
Anon, the zaion manifesto...

[Anonymous No.]

>>69134035
>Selen stated she had 2 suicide attempts.
>We know one happened around Christmas
>Don't know the second one
>"Save me pink girl" tweet on Jan 15, 24

[Anonymous No.]

>>69139088
>Et tu wose

[Anonymous No.]

>>69139088
>Et tu Pink Girl?

[Anonymous No.]

idk bros that other thread is a den of schizos...

[Anonymous No.]

>>69139426
>NDF muddying the water
it's inevitable

[Anonymous No.]

>>69120674
>>69130864
>>69135042
Hey you dumb motherfuckers, stop relying on the text analysis as part of your rrat. Everything else is plausibly true but those censored names were extensively investigated and both are most likely NOT Millie.

For the screenshots shown during Elira's stream, a lot of names were tested by reproducing the message and comparing the alignment of the date following the user name, Millie does not match.
>>69025312
It's possible that she has a status emoji following her name but the amount of space remaining looks too small for an emoji.
Furthermore, the tops of the letters in that name are revealed in the lower part of the screenshot, Millie does not fit those either.
>>69057576
So far best guess is this: >>69133888

For the screenshot in Zaion's manifesto, the comparison that appears to show that it matches Millie is misleading because the comparison deletes/blurs the original text in the screenshot. A close look at the first letters in the screenshot shows that the bottoms of the letters are round and do not match the 'M' in Millie. The spacing of the bottoms of the letters in the latter half of the name also do not match, because in 'Millie' they are evenly spaced but in the screenshot they are not. 'Celine' matches perfectly.
>>69043022

[Anonymous No.]

>>69121805
Zaion showed both the ability and the willingness from the start to cut the clique out of the picture and get things done directly with JP management. Whether she just has a spine or is to autistic to realize what she did I'm not sure.

We still have the problem of the other JP speakers to solve. Elira is part of the first wave so she got in on the ground floor. Yugo's termination was a quick and clean kill, classic black company move. Minimize bad pr and get them out quickly and move on fast. The talent is the product and avoiding defaming them and by extension yourself is smart, that's why they called it a graduation. Zaion and Selen were malicious and retarded, like something a teenage girl would do. These terminations look the same as any google doc call out post you see from former Tumblr shitter indies because that's what Elira is. The company took huge reputational damages from both terminations when a firing getting called a graduation like Yugo's would have stopped all of this. Yugo's firing is likely unrelated to clique drama, since she had been an inconsistent streamer and had major yabs like the drunk stream.

Petra, Rosemi, and Shu are the other Japanese speakers and their rolls are unkown. Petra was regret posting on her PL so she might be uninvolved. Petra has other responsibilities with her education that would keep her too busy to sit on discord calls all day. Shu is an orbiter of Elira's from her PL days and is at a minimum someone who goes along to get along. Rosemi is a complete unknown. She is sweet on stream but it could be an act. She's been streaming less lately which would fit with someone who is busy putting out fires behind the scenes. Her on stream persona is super lovable, but we have to accept that we don't know much about her as a person.

LK trying to point us to a liaison makes me think that there are more people in cahoots with Elira we haven't found yet. Vox being a gaslighting bully is little surprise. What the fuck was Ike doing as a part of the smear stream? He was squeaky clean until now. All of a sudden he's talking about how hurtful it is for a friend to say terrible things about you through a lawyer. What has he been up to?

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>>69132484
Those embezzlement rrats may not have solid backing, but the fact that the clique was living large still deserve a fucking explanation.

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>>69139528
i respect this analysis.

I truly believe that if that manager is not millie it's not a talent, it's just some random manager. No one else is ESL enough and realistically in the position to be that person.

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>>69139622
they didn't spend 200k on projects and approved their own funding for projects and their own sponsorships ofc. it's not that deep. Selen is just very bad with money

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>>69139622
It doesn't have to be embezzlement.
The clique intercepted all the merchs and sponsorships deal and divvying it up amongst themselves.
>And other livers get the crumbs

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so do we got anything on other like Vox ike
anything like being naother vtuber or like shit more we finde the better