Gator & Lawyers Analysis of Niji fuckup

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Livestream ongoing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_5I3JS_k40
prev thread >>69287198

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>>69294874
Gator is a vtuber, don't nuke the thread

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>>69294874
not vtuber, dokicucks

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>phase beggars inserting themselves into every single drama

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>>69295003
there is a literal vtuber on screen

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There is a literal vtuber on stream.

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>>69294874
Wow you sure are proving that dramafags aren't pathetic

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>>69294874
>>69295003
Gator is a vtuber
If janny deletes the thread again they're definitely a sister

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>>69294874
Buy a fucking ad

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>>69295058
You said it shojosister!!!

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>>69294874
I don't watch m*les. Give me the quick rundown.

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>>69295235
I'm gonna run my dick down your mouth

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>>69294874
I can't stand Gators voice, which is unfortunate, because what the lawyer was saying was interesting.

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>>69295058
>>69295209
I can't wait for Phase and VShojo to fight to the death for Nijisanji's place after they implode.

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>>69294874
Tos from Selen outfit design contest from previous thread

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>>69295235
It's what you'd think. Nijisanji fucked up. They're going to talk about the gurrat too. Sisters avoid!

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>>69295003
Its a collab with a vtuber, he's just smoll

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>>69294874
The story so far
>miko n-word clip mentioned
>Contract law jurisdiction is Japan
>Privacy law jurisdiction is Canada
>nothing on Workers rights law yet
>Niji livers can maybe sue Niji for defamation as a result of being thrown under the bus in the termination notice harassment claim
>Niji lawyers acted legally in accordance with Japanese law but not with Canadian law which also applies
>Niji self-reports
>Elira self-reports
>Niji is liable for Elira stream
might have missed some bits

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As a holofan, I am just enjoying the show to the point that I am literally missing hololive streams lmao. Maybe drama is my oshi all along

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>>69295463
>Elira self-reported thrice
She really is retarded.

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>>69295365
Phase and VShojo have 2 very different company mindsets
Phase is closer to what Holo and Niji are
However, VShojo's numbers blow Phase out of the water

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>>69294874
This Jotaro Vtuber has a weird vocal fry

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>>69295532
drama love

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>>69295003
>jannybegging

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This is pretty interesting ngl

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>>69295532
It IS entertaining to watch shit burn when you have no stakes in it LMAO

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>>69295463 (me)
Also the lawyer has read the GURRAT, will talk about it at end of stream

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>>69294874
kek you're right
sisters in shambles

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>>69295532
Same but I don't watch vtubers period.
This whole shebang is pretty interesting to me from seeing it all on the outside.
I don't think I'd ever watch a VTuber or whatever, but seeing this all occur over a major company fuck-up combined with E-drama and legal repercussions is a very interesting maelstrom.

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>>69295726
And apparently admitted to losing sleep by reading it.

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>Phase connect is a coffee company with a vtuber problem

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>>69295532
same, but i'm missing other small corpos streams

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I wanna see a psychologist vtuber analyze this

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>>69295463
>Contract law jurisdiction is Japan
also how restrictive and controlling it is, it does not cover the definition of contractor and would fall under employee

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>>69295376
If artists actually realized Selen paying artists from her own pocket was actually considered a major violation by Nijisanji...

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>>69295463
The sisters dying

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>>69295918
Yes, Selen is an employee by Canadian law

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LMAO Elira's gonna get fucked by Canadian law

I hope they're all watching this and shaking in their flesh suits

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>>69295954
Of course it is, Niji can't blackmail if they aren't withholding payment.

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>>69296007
>LMAO Elira's gonna get fucked by Canadian law
Fucked by Riku, fucked by Vox, fucked by Selen, what's one more.

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>>69295954
Which is weird as fuck because how are they supposed to get ANY assets if they can't pay from pocket AND don't get any funding from Niji, something DOESN'T add up about that.

It's one or the other, it can't be both

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>Niji needs to shut the fuck up
>Zaion mentioned

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>>69295954
That's not what That's saying. It's saying they're blaming her for the delays in the payments because she didn't follow their procedures and rules. Her paying the artists directly isn't the issue cited there. It's her navigation of beurqcracy That's being cited

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>>69295954
>as well as lack of communication with creators resulting in delays in Selen Tatsuki's commission payments to creators
Pretty sure Nijisanji EXPECTS that talents pay for everything

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>Zieg Zaion

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>>69294874
this is like those twitter doctors who tweet "injury updates" on athletes right after they get injured on live tv. Half the time they're wrong or use incorrect information

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we love weebs after all

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>>69296183
>>69296007
Elira can also fuck Niji by suing them herself too.

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>>69295235
>I dont watch real male
Really? nijisister???

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>>69295532
Shit is premium comedy when no one you care about is involved. The EliraVoxIke video message unironically made me pull an all nighter despite having to work the next morning.

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>>69296422
>>69296269
kek

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>>69296201
I know this is just a rrat but what if we have conflicting information about if Niji does or doesn't give support because the clique is taking like 85% of the budget themselves.

If you AREN'T allowed to pay from pocket as stated in the termination notice, that implies Niji DOES provide funding.

What if the Liver's who said they got no support from Niji, didn't get it because none was allocated to them?

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>>69296201
I'm assuming that nijisanji is supposed to take care of all financial transactions on the livers behalf.

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>>69296385
So true sis! #cut4hex

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RIP Vox

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>>69295954
ACTIVITY RURRRRUUUUUS!

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>>69296568
?

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>Vox assblasted
Nice

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>>69296587
Tokugawa Ieyasu is about to revive to bury this bitch.

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>>69295532
same

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>>69296561
>I'm assuming that nijisanji is supposed to take care of all financial transactions on the livers behalf.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure the commissioned artists assumed that too, before getting ghosted by Niji on the payments for months

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>>69296587
>>69296640

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>>69296007
She fled to Japan where she's currently fellating a Japanese businessman.

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Grifters unite

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Vox watching this going "NUH UH" because he thinks he knows more about the law than an actual lawyer

KEK

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>>69296356
Are you saying that Selen doxing herself on paypal isn't a problem for niji?

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>CONTRADICTION SPOTTED
nice nice

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>>69296356
It's referring to the timeframe. Basically they specifically put May 2023 as when they sent their ultimatum to Selen about breaking Activity Rules. What triggered that? Well, it was the outfit contest which artists praised her for. It's a huge PR gaffe if nothing else.

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This guy is ripping them apart. It's great.

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>>69296845
This guy has been waiting SO LONG of course he's enjoying this LMAO

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>The lady doth protest too much
KEK

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>esl lawyer wrote the nijisanji statement
seems accurate

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>>69296920
You can use business Paypal to not doxx yourself bruh

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Fuck lawyers are slimy

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>>69296821
Must be such a downgrade going from a wmaf feeding frenzy town to one where every dick is barely 5" and uncut.

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>>69297141
Pleaze give me sexy slime girl lawyer vtuber NOW

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>>69296845
>Grifter
He ain't no grifter if he's just out for Niji blood.

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>>69297119
Paypal will still doxx you if asked by law enforcers

>>69297141
Shocking news: Water is blue

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>>69297021
Did he solve the issue of jurisdiction?

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Did I hear that right? They're LIABLE?!

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>>69297077
Has he mentioned pajeets at all?

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>>69296201
It makes sense if Niji doesn't give a fuck about content and just views their streamers as passive money making machines. They just want the streamers to stay in their little box and do their job at minimal cost to the company. At the same time, they don't want the streamers climbing out the box and doing shit themselves, because they don't want to lose control. But ALSO they're lazy as shit and don't want to hire competent people to keep the leash tight.
So you end up with the worst of all worlds: management is combative enough to shut you down if you ask for anything and will yell at you when they catch you doing things on your own, but they're too lazy to actually keep an eye on you. Add on that there's basically confirmed favoritism within the company and it's just a fucking shitty work environment.

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Vox is most likely one of the bully, that’s why Selen need to mention who he is IRL

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TELL EM GAYDUR

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>>69297256
sky is blue* bud

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>>69295532
Same, It's almost like an all out war.

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here comes the rrat

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>vox may have irrevocably FUCKED kurosanji
LMFAO

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it's over sisters...

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>>69297265
Contract law is Japan
Personal laws like privacy is in Canada

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>>69297374
BYE VOX, IT WAS NICE NOT WATCHING YOU!

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>>69297374
what did he say? not watching the stream

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>>69297374
When the golden boy is the one who gets you into a snake pit of legal trouble

KEK

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>vox fucking nijisanji over
The former golden boy of NijiEN doing this is really fucking funny.

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>>69295463
>>Niji lawyers acted legally in accordance with Japanese law but not with Canadian law which also applies
so it's all but confirmed that Niji cheaped out on EVERYTHING except for the yacht

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>>69295003
>-ACK!
I lived to see the end of Nijisanji but I also got to experience TOTAL DRAGOON VICTORY and the end of the m*in thread sisters. It evens out.

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>>69297374
GRADUATIONS! GRADUATIONS FOR EVERYONE!

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Future developments coverage confirmed

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>>69297374
BASED VOX "le retard" AKUMA

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>>69297501
Don't worry, he can pay the legal fees by doing more rape ASMR

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>>69297374
>>69297496
>>69297501
I just jumped in, what did he say about Vox?

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>>69297496
i bet Vox didn't even "review the document thoroughly" but felt like saying it to make himself feel important
now it turns out he fucked Riku in the ass with that statement

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>>69297374
So we now have
>THOROUGHLY INSPECTED
to add to
>NEGLIGIBLE
what else?

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>>69297629
he said vox likes to suck cock

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>>69297489
Vox said that he thoroughly reviewed the document, Not the summary or the sparknotes, The whole document which is in violation of the confidentiality

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>>69297629
Saying that he "thoroughly" reviewed the documents 100% fucks Niji with a pogo stick

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>>69297629
Nice looking ass

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>>69297489
By claiming he read the documents THOROUGHFULLY he makes the Niji defense that they showed the Livers only relevant parts (which wasn't that good in the first place) obsolete and possibly shifts the burden of proof on Nijisanji to show that he didn't read anything he wasn't supposed to see.

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>>69297677
Whoa, this sharp legal mind was able to deduce that just from watching him stream and listening to him speak?

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>>69297629
>Vox is most likely in jail for raping ther underage

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>>69297712
not only that, "documents sent to Niji laywers by Selen's lawyers"
he basically outed that Niji circulated the confidential documents COMPANYWIDE

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>If Elira clique rrat is real she violated PIPEDA and is royally fucked

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Man, Gator has come a long way.

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>>69297728
yeah he has those cocksucking dulcet tones

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>>69297374
>Le retard de Vox Akuma

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>>69296717
And that's the problem, because either management took the money and ghosted the artists or they are completely incomplete at their job and somehow forgot.

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>>69296201
The point is to keep their expenses low. If the point system really exists, they do get budget for assets based on milestones, but it's probably incredibly rigid and it forces talents to spend their own money it also puts them in a risk that company will dislike that and uses it as a proof of contract violation. It's a shitty company that might have started as a good idea to provide a support for the widest range of streamers as possible.

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>>69297680
Lawyer also commented on the line where Selen's lawyer "requested" confidentiality. This is in contrast to Doki's statement that they had an agreement to keep the legal documents confidential.
He wonders if the Niji lawyers didn't really agree due to JP culture of a request being something that can be ignored

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I guess you could say Vox thoroughly fucked niji over

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TOTAL HOLO DOMINIATION

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>>69297725
>Single-handedly shifts burden of proof from Doki to Niji

DRAGOONS ARE WINNING

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>GURRAT SPECULATION TIEM!

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>Talking about the UNIFYING RRAT
Lmao

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>Canadian Labour Claim mentioned

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>>69297826
Domination*

FUCK

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Wait, WAS Elira in Canada too? Sounds likes she's omega fucked if so

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>>69297773
no wonder luca didint get fired for breaking nda and shit

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>>69297981
Yeah, she flew to Japan on the 5th just before the termination

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>>69297821
>He wonders if the Niji lawyers didn't really agree due to JP culture of a request being something that can be ignored
For all the politeness japs like to pretend they have, they sure love to ignore what they don't like and fuck other over, don't they?

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>>69294874
I wonder how many niji livers are watching this stream

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>nuts mentioned

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>>69297256
>Paypal will still doxx you if asked by law enforcers
well its a good thing she's not breaking the law then, no clue why that's relevant here.

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>>69297981
Pretty sure she's a citizen there and is royally fucked

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>>69297934
K, but watching Purple News Cyborg through the lense of the GURRAT further proves it by how mich secret shade he has been throwing this whole time

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>they could've kept it in japanese court system by shutting up
you just can't make this shit up

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>>69297981
Elira isn't just Canadian, she's so stupid she doxed her neighborhood on stream way back.

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>>69298037
Hopefully all of them >>69295463
>Niji livers can maybe sue Niji for defamation as a result of being thrown under the bus in the termination notice harassment claim

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>>69298062
how so

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>>69297981
She can sue Niji for her face if she's innocent but is FUCKED if she's not

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>>69298031
I mean. The politeness is a sword and shield like any other cultural tool. It offers you a way to resolve conflicts with minimal loss to both parties. It's like, if someone serves you ochazuke in some parts of Japan, they're basically telling you to get the fuck out.

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>they're thinking the plebs are going to believe this
Okay I'm starting to like this guy

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>>69295235
the closet shakes

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>>69295365
Expectation: Brutal fight for 2nd place.
Reality: Both just do their thing and let the #s land as they will.

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How bitched out are the sisters right now?

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This chad goes to Japan just to fuck their women lol

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>>69298120
kek the clique taking down the company on their way out would be hilarious

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>>69298133
if GURRAT is even somewhat true, both of them being Canadian causes Canadian labor laws to apply which apparently will fuck you hard

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>>69294874
>i like to go on multiple dates when i go
>japanese girls were complaining about the money
This guy fucks LMAO

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>>69298062
Does anyone believe Doki will sue though? Feels like she just wants to move on.

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>>69298103
I thought the black screen stream was stupid, but I didn't think she was THIS stupid

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based yellow fever enthusiast

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>this guy is a piece of shit
>he's cringe
lmao

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HOLY

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Holy shit the Vox roast

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>I'd punch this guy in the face
BASED

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>>69294874
>Vox is a piece of shit, I'd punch him in the face
I like this lawyer

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voxsisters, our response?

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KEK

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>he's using a gaslighting voice
>i'd punch him in the face
based...

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>hates Vox
based

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>(Talking about Vox) This guys is a piece of shit
KEK

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>even the YouTube lawyer would punch Vox
based

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>vox is a cunt
my fucking sides

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Come on bro there's no need to go personal, I wanted a professional stream

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Fucking BASED lawyer

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LMAO

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>vox is a piece of shit

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>>69298328
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>>69298345
>>69298348
KINO

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FUCKING LMAO VOX BITCHED THE FUCK OUT!
FEMCELS IN SHAMBLES

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>Vox is a piece of shit
HOLY
BASED BASED BASED

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"Thats a guy I would NOT hang out with"

>le retard de Vox Akuma

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NO MERCY

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>I would punch Vox in the face
BADED BASED BASED BASED BASED

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>milord casually getting shat on in a livestream
kek

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>>69298274
I hope for the love of god she doesn't 'take the moral high ground' or some bullshit.

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So is Niji fucked or not?
Just got here

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>>69298282
To be fair she was exceptionally well liked until this shit came to light. Especially in Canada you don't need to fear strangers if you don't have enemies.

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>>69298452
quick rundown: this handsome lawyer fucks japanese women

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>>69298194
>It offers you a way to resolve conflicts with minimal loss to both parties.
So does asking a lawyer what he meant by a "request".

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>>69298274
inb4 lawsuit is Doki vs Clique

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>>69298452
Vox's retarded statement fucked Nijisanji in the ass.

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>>69298452
If she pressed charges, undoubtedly.
If she tries really anything its massively in her favor

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>>69298452
Yeah, Vox fucked up, Elira's stream fucked

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>>69298452
yes.

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>>69298452
100% fucked cuz Elira, Vox, and Ike can sure them for face on the blackout PR video assuming they were forced

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>>69298430
>No Doki! If you terminate your enemies you'll be no better than them!

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>>69298452
let's just say that they should've asked the opinion of a lawyer before fucking everything up

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>>69297374

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>>69298037
>Enna, what the fuck do we do now?
>What we always do, Millie
>We betray everyone
>We were only MENTIONED in the video
>We can sue them for defamation

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>>69298452
Yes, Vox thoroughly fucked niji this time

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>>69294874
LMAO this whole drama makes me think a youtube celebrity board would actually be worse dogshit than /vt/ already is

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>"I dont feel this is harassment"
>Go fuck yourself
kek

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>>69298452
Only if organs actually sue

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>>69298452
Vox screwed over the entirety of NijiEN. They're fucked

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>>69294874
At this point, just make an eceleb board

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>>69298489
>And would punch Vox in the face
Le based God

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>exerting undue control
ruh roh

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>>69298575

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holy FUCK Vox is getting ripped apart this stream
slimy voice demon btfo with facts and logic

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>>69298452
Doki probably won't go for lawsuit in Japan because it won't do go to her
Not sure about Canadian lawsuit though

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>>69298575
>this fucking pinky and the brain duo might actually walk away from this

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>But mein fuhrer, he said he'd punch me in the face

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Not to SHIT on everyone in this thread but isn't this useless since Doki said she won't be pursuing a lawsuit in the first place?

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Man I'm so used to seeing virtual avatars and anons shitting on NijiEN that it's jarring seeing a middle-aged fluent english speaker just telling Vox to go fuck himself and that he's an asshole.
So fucking kino.

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>>69298575
>Enna sacrifices the entire NijiEN branch and comes up on top
I wanna see that

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>>69298374
that's his opinion as a professional, though, especially if he was given a case from a guy like this

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>>69298345
He's not wrong. This is the most I've cared about Nijisanji and Vox comes across as a narcissist douchebag. Just compare the tone of voice from the other two to Vox. The other two sound shaken and like the suicide attempt genuinely bothered them, Vox sounds like he thinks he's this ace attorney that will convince everyone Selen's wrong thanks to how smart he is.

Fuck that guy.

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>>69298575
would be kino

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Honestly? I expect the legal stuff to peter out. Nijisanji is on shaky ground and Doki doesn't seem keen on it.
PR is dead and buried though.

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This is one of the gayest threads I've ever seen, all of you are faggots.
>b-based lawyer chad!?!
Holy fucking cringe.

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>>69298739
Seethe sister

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>>69298575
I would bite my fucking tongue and kneel so hard if they did this

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Anycolor is an unironic criminal enterprise. Riku and his upper management all belong in prison cells.

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>>69298739
This is /vt/ the fuck do you expect? NOT cringe???

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>>69298556
the best thing? they said that they did.

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>>69298669
>she won't be pursuing a lawsuit in the first place?
for now

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>>69298739
We are watching Vtuber, fuck off faggot

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>>69298739
you will never get dicked by vox

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>>69298669
>I wanted it to be neutral and private but now the whole world is involved and the public is watching every step that happens.
Yeah, no

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>>69294874
Gator? Is this the same dragoon gator?

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>>69298669
She said she wanted to move past it and anons containment breaking this hard will probably push her into another suicide attempt. People can shitpost on /vt/ all they want, a girl should be smart enough to not open it. But if the entire internet is discussing your suicidal tendencies, that is sure to fuck with your head...

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>>69298739
There's nothing left to do but run, Vox

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>>69298739
I look forward to your graduation, Vox

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>>69298739
shut up vox femcel bitch. your husbando is a piece of shit.

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>>69298795
Let's be honest, this is probably just sheer incompetence over some malice

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>>69298739
What's the matter, sister? You don't like that milord just fucked his corpo in the legal department?

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>>69298739
I am a faggot, boohoo
stop being so jealous of him, anon

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>>69298695
Ripping and tearing into him until it's done it's great

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>>69298669
People care because if Doki really does stay out of this legally, people don't want the future narrative to be "see? Doki had NOTHING! That proves Nijisanji did nothing wrong!" A video like this asserts that they absolutely did and Doki was just being genuine about wanting to move on.

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I can't believe that this shitstorm reached Legal Mindset, I'll have to watch the stream tomorrow.
Asides from Vox seemingly fucking up, have there been any other interesting bits?

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>>69297981
Yes. Her retarded ass ran away over there before making that shitty black video.

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>>69298491
The instant you THINK you have a major enough advantage, that politeness gets dropped
If Japanese were oh so polite, the Sengoku Jidai wouldn't have happened

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>>69298717
It's probably too much of a hassle and too costly for an individual like selen to pursue it. I won't blame her if she's not gonna pursue it but it would literally be so based if she does.

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>>69298857
It's actual malice.

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>>69298739
It's afraid

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>>69298739
Tick tock, Vox.

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>>69298739
Go back to your NijiEN general where you're getting some twink to describe his deck for some reason.

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>>69298739
She deserves some justice but the absolute filth that can be considered people it's brought is unbearable

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>>69298717
Yeah, this is funny as fuck, but Doki clearly wasn't and isn't going to pursue any legal shit. The whole damn conflict is essentially Niji jumping the gun with damage control because they expected her to, when she likely was just trying to get a better graduation/termination deal.

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"The REAL issue here is that I was recorded without consent"

HOLY SHIT SOMEONE ALMOST FUCKIMG DIEEEED FUCK YOU VOX

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LAWYER SEXOOOOOO!!!!

[Anonymous No.]

Reminder that according to actual lawyers like this channel:
1) The clique is not likely to exist
2) The company forced the livers to make that black screen stream and can be held legally responsible
3) All vtuber agencies wanting to take 50% or more of the money you make are evil and can get fucked
4) Nijisanji is the worst but other agencies are not much better

[Anonymous No.]

>>69298717
>and Doki doesn't seem keen on it.
This.
This is why I have 0 faith in all of this. It seems like she just wants to move on with her life and not deal with this headache of a company anymore.
I have no doubt she'd win if she perused it, but I think all the money and stress of doing it wouldn't be worth it to her

[Anonymous No.]

>>69298739
o7 Vox
good riddance

[Anonymous No.]

>>69294874
>Look up his videos
>He's a Republican shill.
This really is gamergate 2.0

[Anonymous No.]

THIS LAWYER IS SO R*TARDED
HE LITERALLY MADE A PHYSICAL THREAT TO VOX
HE'S LEGALLY FUCKED

[Anonymous No.]

>>69298669
It all depends on whether or not NijiEN shuts up or not. If they won't let Doki be, they're options... But I think NijiEN will, after embarrassing JP with that dumbass stunt.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69298888

>>69298489
>>69298617

[Anonymous No.]

>even normie lawyers can hear the pedophilia in milords voice
Sisters, our response????

[Anonymous No.]

>>69298888
they talk about the GURRAT

[Anonymous No.]

Vox is critically failing charisma checks against this guy

[Anonymous No.]

>>69298739
kys bitch nigger

[Anonymous No.]

>>69295726
what's the gurrat tldr?
is it just that elira is a manager?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69298085
Andrew is right— the kept telling on themselves over and over and over again.
This is why retards like The Clique and Nick Rekieta should soon understand very harshly that you should keep your fucking mouth shut when you are discussing ANY legal matters.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69298980
Vox is a co-conspirator in a criminal enterprise.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69298031
Oh dude, it's all a farce and stereotype. Most are chill and calm like most societies but the assholes, they're fucking annoying with their indirectness. Of course, people are shy but people weaponize that shit too

[Anonymous No.]

>>69298739
being homosexual doesn't mean laughing at nijisanji, sister.
Perhaps you were the biggest faggot all along

[Anonymous No.]

>>69298739
>>69298801
RIP kindred

[Anonymous No.]

>>69298575
i am utterly torn between glee and horror if they do this
and then they fail

[Anonymous No.]

The clique and bullying has being a thing for a fucking year AT LEAST lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>69298739

[Anonymous No.]

post YFW you're not Riku Tazumi

[Anonymous No.]

>>69298857
1000% Malice
10000% Sheer incompetence

[Anonymous No.]

>>69298739
sis you would jump on his dick irl

[Anonymous No.]

>>69298955
She's literally dealt them a 120million blow already kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>69298739
Vox won't fuck you, fatass.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69298739
I would almost agree, but I dislike nijis more than I dislike le based and redpilled lawtubers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69298613
imagine how dogshit that would be, just absolute scum

[Anonymous No.]

this entire stream has derailed that fucking campaign against Doki. Femcel Sisters in shambles

[Anonymous No.]

>>69298575
I would kneel through the earth and become chinese

[Anonymous No.]

>>69299116

[Anonymous No.]

>>69298980
>R*TARDED
GO BACK, YOU NIGGER

[Anonymous No.]

>>69299116

[Anonymous No.]

>>69298839
She's almost certainly seen about the GUrrat by now and she's currently as happy and giggly as normal whilst spending two and half hours to clear one level in the Backrooms.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69298452
Vox sold The Clique out by running his retard mouth and now they are fucked. He straight up implies that NijiEN lied several times to the public on accident hahahahahaha

[Anonymous No.]

If Gurrat is proven real then this goes straight to Canadian court. Is this why Elira has fled to Japan?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69299152
yeah... imagine a vtuber board

[Anonymous No.]

>>69294874
Imagine if Doki and Riku already settled things while the clique, NDF, dramatubers, and you faggots are just wasting your time arguing about nothing lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>69298980
Tell that to him, then report how it goes, champ

[Anonymous No.]

>>69299116

[Anonymous No.]

Vox is such a snake faggot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69298575
KIIIINOOOOOOO

[Anonymous No.]

>>69299116

[Anonymous No.]

>>69298489
It's really that easy. There's unironically a party-hookup culture in major touristy areas of Tokyo and Kyoto where locals hang around just to fuck foreigners. You'd be flabbergasted how many multilingual, university-educated women hit you up unprompted the moment you tap a local hookup app.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69299284
it's already at least half in canadian jurisdiction because 2.434% couldn't keep themselves from making incredibly nipponese statements

[Anonymous No.]

>>69299286
brother it would be a million times worse, a million tourist flocking there

[Anonymous No.]

>snack break during a serious stream
lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>69299284
Yesh

[Anonymous No.]

>>69299033
Yeah, and giving funds/sponsors to herself and clique

[Anonymous No.]

>>69298575
Suddenly reminded of this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2B3slX6-_20

[Anonymous No.]

>>69299297
arguing?
we're just making fun of vox here buddy

[Anonymous No.]

>>69299003
I can't believe our fucking shitpost got reviewed by a lawyer

[Anonymous No.]

>>69299116
He's going to be fine. A lot of people on EN side will not.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69299353
I'm afraid of getting std

[Anonymous No.]

>>69299116

[Anonymous No.]

>>69299116
Riku has a yatch tho, tell me how many yatchs do you have retard?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69299166
femcels are going to be even more rabid once they sniff this dude shitting on vox

[Anonymous No.]

>>69298739
So true sister!

[Anonymous No.]

>>69298575
There's a non zero percent chance they try to do this if they're watching the stream right now

[Anonymous No.]

>Vox said it the most
>I believe it the least
This fucking guy

[Anonymous No.]

>>69298955
>It seems like she just wants to move on with her life
who would want to keep this shit up while she is having never seen before numbers in audience and open door for sponsorships

Her focus should be on building this Doki career

[Anonymous No.]

>>69299297
The mental anguish of the NDF and the clique brings me great joy though

[Anonymous No.]

>>69299093
People have been talking about the clique here since 2021

[Anonymous No.]

Now it all makes sense how/why Vox was grooming 12 year olds, not like his infantile gaslighting would work on anyone with a brain.

[Anonymous No.]

So explain why Vox fucked everyone else over.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69299419
We're gonna get torn apart when he gets to that part LMAO

[Anonymous No.]

>OUR FRIENDSHIP
Kek, fuck these guys

[Anonymous No.]

>>69299033
Elira and co. are management/part of management

[Anonymous No.]

>>69298669
If sisters hadn't made that slander document, this wouldn't be necessary
You eat your own, sister

[Anonymous No.]

>>69298980
>R*TARDED
fuck off.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69299284
Oh absolutely. If the Canadian courts get wind of this they'll be like starving piranhas in the desert ocean catching a whiff of blood. It would be a MASSIVE legal nightmare to violate Canadian Labor Laws.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69299419
Excuse you it's a work of art constructed in the fires of weaponized autism.

[Anonymous No.]

>who's this guy? Not as popular as Vox, lower popular guy?
Hahaha get fucked Ikea

[Anonymous No.]

>>69299453
I have something much better, im not Riku Tazumi

[Anonymous No.]

>>69299479
The most fake person i ever saw
Even his british accent looks fake

[Anonymous No.]

>>69299297
Even if it's settled this shit will haunt Vox or Elira forever even if they graduate.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69299297
vtubing is supposed to be fun
the only fun thing about niji is the drama
they have nothing else to offer anymore
to quote nips
>graduation is their main content

[Anonymous No.]

>>69297141
there's a reason why Justice is blind: you can acquit a pedophile, and put an innocent man to death penalty depending on how well the lawyer interprets the laws regardless of the truth.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69299507
Vox blatantly admitted they violated confidentiality

[Anonymous No.]

>>69299508
PLEASE roast us over the GURRAT like you're roasting Vox

>I will cum

[Anonymous No.]

>>69299116

[Anonymous No.]

>>69299527
No they aren't, watch the stream.

[Anonymous No.]

All of this over an MV...
It has to be about more...
Embezzlement cover-up makes so much sense

[Anonymous No.]

>>69299504
You'd be surprised at how braindead the average Niji viewer is

[Anonymous No.]

>>69299507
Picrel sums it up

[Anonymous No.]

>>69299353
I really need to find the Pic that says:
>Japanese men that dress as women to prank foreigners into having sex with them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69298575
you know what anon, if retarded blue dragon actually flew to jp then she is an easy target for narcissistic harpy, but if she is still at canada then she is an easy target for doki, this is getting a lot better lmao.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69299570
bro, i didnt think our weaponized autism was this powerful, i kneel rrratgods

[Anonymous No.]

You know, I have to admit this actually has been an interesting stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69299116

[Anonymous No.]

This guy is absolutely tearing Vox apart holy shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>69299507
He claimed to have thoroughly read the documents. Not the alleged lawyer-curated parts. Apparently, Nijisanji would actually have to prove that or admit they've violated confidentiality.

[Anonymous No.]

As a dramalurker who only cares about Holo, it was very obvious watching the Elira stream that Elira/Vox/Ike were trying to control the narrative there. Don't even need the GURRAT to figure it out.

Like why would you commit career suicide defending Nijisanji? Anyone with half a brain would've just stayed out of the whole thing and let the lawyers work it out. Why barge in at all as "co-workers"? And even if Nijisanji was putting a gun to their head to do it, the way they were talking about Selen was extremely personal. That wasn't just script reading.

There is only one explanation for doing so: they're scared they're going to get royally fucked when the lawsuit actually happens because it's going to reveal that they're the real bullies. So they took the one and only change they had to try and bring the fans back on their side and throw Selen under the bus.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69299507
he said he thoroughly reviewed the documents, which implies it was shared company-wide. in Japanese Court, a request for confidentiality is not required. in Canadian court, it is required. if niji had not said anything about this, the case would be in Japan. because of all the public statements and streams from niji's side, the case would now be in Canada.

[Anonymous No.]

Ike getting called out by lawyer going into the psychological of him telling on himself doing something bad

>KEK

[Anonymous No.]

>>69299625
it's true unless proved otherwise
refer back to the gurrat

[Anonymous No.]

>>69299411
so is that considered a conflict of interest?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69299628
>Embezzlement cover-up
first time i've read it from you. what's with the rrat?

[Anonymous No.]

The lawyer is saying that Ike is full of shit and drank his water since he was nervous and knew he was doing something bad

[Anonymous No.]

>>69298980
You cannot physically harm a 2d character

[Anonymous No.]

So what are these two saying. That Niji self-reported themselves for no reason and acted like it was a good play from them when it was not?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69299507
>Niji lawyer puts out statement that says they only gave them "required information ONLY"
>Vox the braindead retard in the black screen video unironcally says verbatim "we reviewed the documents thoroughly..."
>Outright admits to shitting all over confidentiality opening them up to all kinds of liabilities and privacy violations.
THIS IS WHY YOU KEEP YOUR RETARD MOUTH SHUT WHEN DISCUSSING LEGAL MATTERS!!!!!!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>69299795
japanese women and punching vox

[Anonymous No.]

>miko n-word clip mentioned
>Contract law jurisdiction is Japan
>Privacy law jurisdiction is Canada
>nothing on Workers rights law yet
>lawyer has read the GURRAT, will talk about it at end of stream
>Niji livers can maybe sue Niji for defamation as a result of being thrown under the bus in the termination notice harassment claim
>Niji lawyers acted legally in accordance with Japanese law but not with Canadian law which also applies
>Selen is an employee under Canadian workers rights laws
>Niji self-reports
>Elira self-reports
>Niji is liable for Elira stream
>FalseEyeD in chat
>If Elira clique management rrat is real then she's royally fucked by Canadian law
>"Livers not held to NDA" doesn't matter, ANYCOLOR still is and fucked up by showing doc to livers
>Vox fucked up by saying he thoroughly reviewed the doc sent by Doki's lawyers
>Lawyer: "Vox is a piece of shit, I'd punch him in the face"
>Vox is a gaslighter
>Elira stream directly violates confidentiallity
>Vox is UK, Selen is Canada, both single party consent recording, so recording doesn't matter at all
>Ike is Sweden, so he's a gigantic faggot
>Elira stream shared more than was legally allowed
did I miss anything?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69299507
Because of what Vox said, instead of the court being in Japan (if it ever comes to that), the court is now in Canada.

[Anonymous No.]

PR department getting roasted black

[Anonymous No.]

I find it funny I can watch lawyers predict major trials on the news and be wrong 50% of the time. Yet when they say what people want to hear they are regarded as some sort of messiah.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69299795
Yesh

[Anonymous No.]

>>69299795
The exact same thing people without legal degrees have been saying, because its blisteringly obvious
>DON'T
>ADMIT
>TO
>LEAKING
>CONFIDENTIAL
>INFO
>ON
>STREAM

[Anonymous No.]

>>69299795
Narcissists are highly vulnerable to errors of this kind.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69299247
>deleted
even the jannies are newfags wtf.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69298980
>>69298947

[Anonymous No.]

>>69299116

[Anonymous No.]

Wait, is this the same gator from Enna's and Selen's stream that lusted over them?

Does he hate enna now?

[Anonymous No.]

HOLY SHIT THIS STREAM IS SO BASED

[Anonymous No.]

>>69299910
It's relative
But why isn't this what you want to hear, sister

[Anonymous No.]

>>69299775
Selen had to pay artists for commissions out of her own pocket after they got angry about Nijisanji managers not paying them.
But the money was withdrawn from NijiEN's budget by management, so where did it go?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69299750
Too bad, because by them opening their mouth they've done something infinitely worse than what would be in discovery in a nip court.
Hell, if they just shut the fuck up, this could have been only allowed in Japan, but now they opened themselves up for legal hell with the labor laws of leafcucks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69299950
could be "racism outside of /b/" that got it deleted

[Anonymous No.]

>the black box stream is still up because Niji condones what's inside the stream
>the black box stream is still up because anycolor wants to use it as an evidence to fire the people involved in that disaster of the stream.
which is true?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69299795
>That Niji self-reported themselves for no reason
To be completely honest literally everyone was saying this on Twitter and /here/ and in R*dd*t before these two even said that.
It's so blatantly obvious

[Anonymous No.]

>>69298974
rent free

[Anonymous No.]

>>69299910
None of this is going to trial anyway, just enjoy the shitposting

[Anonymous No.]

>>69300024
Why not both?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69298947
"VOLUNTEERED" Elira's words
unless she claims that she was forced to say that

[Anonymous No.]

>>69300009
Don't worry, anon. Anycolor's IQ30 in-house counsel will be done for malpractice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69300024
Both.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69299795
Hello newfag tourist etc.
Yes. They literally had legal docs send to the branch, for the legal team, because it was confidential legal docs. JP prob had EN translate all english docs for them, instead of sending them to an outside legal agency. NijiEN did not respect that and shared everything amongst their group...

[Anonymous No.]

Whether Doki wants to actually pursue any legal action is irrelvent if Niji being afraid that she MIGHT is enough to cause them to burn their own house down first.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69300010
Now that's a loose interpretation of that rule, jesus christ. If only moot were still around.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69300024
Both.
>It was rogue employees that have now been fired that breached legal confidentiality.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69299873
>Based on the level of control, the livers are extremely unlikely to be contractors

[Anonymous No.]

>I'll fucking fly to japan and cover that, while fucking japanese pussy

[Anonymous No.]

>>69299772
I'm not a lawyer but as a bystander that's pretty shitty no? Here's x amount for y of your and your department. And then you use it for less than half your team. 3 of your have a nice life and then the rest have to pay for shit out of pocket.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69298717
If niji is smart at all they will do whatever they can to settle this quietly. But also:
>if niji is smart

[Anonymous No.]

>>69299460
This dude is more handsome than Vox, he'll become their new oshi.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69300005
Oh. that one. I remember Millie saying one time that she almost got nothing paid to her monthly once because of a cover, though she only said that in a membership stream. She managed to convince the managers to recalculate since the monthly payment apparently couldn't feed her if it were to go through.

[Anonymous No.]

oh shit it's mah boy riku

[Anonymous No.]

>>69300025
>picrel
KEK holy fuck I snorted

[Anonymous No.]

>>69300118
It's already fucked

>No one with actual value will want to apply to Niji anymore
>Future investors will look at this fiasco and choose to not partner with them
>Current Livers' moral is already destroyed and I have NO DOUBT we will see more graduations after Kyo

It's so completely fucked

[Anonymous No.]

>>69298947
>2) The company forced the livers to make that black screen stream and can be held legally responsible
If*
>3) All vtuber agencies wanting to take 50% or more of the money you make are evil and can get fucked
Pretty much everyone then, including Cover. Dont know about Vshoujo, but probably the same.
>4) Nijisanji is the worst but other agencies are not much better
True. Regular companies are just as bad too, the production works arent getting paid for the products they make. $1000k car and workers get $40-50.

[Anonymous No.]

>If Vox was part of management
holy shit the GURRAT is getting reviewed hahahahaha

[Anonymous No.]

>>69298739

[Anonymous No.]

>>69299553
RCMP and CSIS might get involved.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69300181
Oh shit... was management stealing money from Selen then given how popular yet poor she is?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69299642
That makes it even better

[Anonymous No.]

>>69300082
Might have been the good ol' "volun-told"

[Anonymous No.]

>>69299116

[Anonymous No.]

>>69299910
Why are you afraid?
He already said Doki better off just living her life

[Anonymous No.]

>>69300116
This, and el will have to be admitted to court if this went that far due to her and her cliques involvement with every single legal document, absolutely destorying confidentiality.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69298857
No one is this incompetent unless they are causing problems to hide crimes somewhere else. The '>dont blame on malice' garbage is just what sociopaths spew to cover their trail. People are generally good at doing things they want to do and are only bad at things if they want to intentionally them badly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69300024
They don't need to leave it up to use it as evidence. They could take screenshots of the date and channel, private the video, download extra copies, and otherwise record all the info they could want about it for a case.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69300181
I was just thinking about this the other day. She said they take out the money from their paycheck what they use to pay commissions. I cancelled my membership though so I don't have a link.

[Anonymous No.]

>Suing in this case is difficult
Yeah, I figure. People always jump to suing the corporation but don't understand how difficult it is to go through the case. I believe this guy. Doki likely knows this is ugly to sue

[Anonymous No.]

>>69300005
that just means Selen is bad at filing out forms properly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69300118
What would really fuck them if there was a way that Doki didn't need to press charges for Nijisanji to get sued. I know it's only in certain specific cases, but with everything happening at this point never say never.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69300408
It's a complete win, but only if Doki isn't an absolute bitch

[Anonymous No.]

>>69300441
Nah, we have statements from Artists saying that Niji repeatedly fucked up NDAs and contracts sent to them directly from Nijisanji. Even after revisions they came back incorrect.

[Anonymous No.]

What he said about Vox is so based because before this whole incident I kept seeing posts throughout this board like “oh Vox is a chill guy”. like everyone has forgotten every fucked up thing he did, like refusing to listen to his fans about the whole roleplay warning thing. There’s always been something weird there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69300311
>>69300391
I don't remember which stream, but I remember that and I was like that's fucked up. I couldn't type it on her chat though. That was in 2022 by the way.

[Anonymous No.]

All I'm getting here is that Doki can fight this out but it's difficult especially if she worries about the doxxing.
Meanwhile Niji can fight it out as well but to the detriment of their talent as well which will be doxxed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69300352
Don't use basedka to shitpost.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69300408
I'm hoping she doesn't have to but that they pay her a big fat sum and she can continue to be happy

[Anonymous No.]

>>69300487
Better to avoid it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69300487
you sound like an idiot who has never worked in corpo or understand the courts. The fucking guy in the stream is explaining it properly already how bad it is. Shut the fuck up

[Anonymous No.]

>>69300311
shes not poor.... anyone with pocket change to blow 200k in a year is not poor.

[Anonymous No.]

why the chat is so slow with 4800 viewers?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69299910
we're just enjoying speculations

[Anonymous No.]

>>69300181
So we know
>There were a few mysterious cases of money vanishing.
>Anycolor pay is pretty terrible, which might make employees feel justified in skimming extra money for themselves.
>Some managers are foreigners from India or SEA countries where it might be pretty hard to do anything about them if they were caught embezzling money.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69300600
Based on what /#/ tells everyone, it's botted.

[Anonymous No.]

I FUCKING KNEEL LEGAL MINDSET, YOU UNDERSTAND SO WELL. BASED

[Anonymous No.]

>>69300600
sub only chat
Dude's giving great info but who the fuck knew this guy and was subbed before?

[Anonymous No.]

Yeah I agree there's no point for Doki to actually sue. The amount of money needed is staggering and it doesn't help that it can go on for years.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69300600
This isn't a vtuber stream anon, people actually try to talk like they have a triple digit IQ

[Anonymous No.]

>>69300667
it's only a five-minute subscription time!

[Anonymous No.]

>>69300600
>Subscribers-only mode

[Anonymous No.]

>>69300511
>>69300441
It’s been obvious from the beginning that a large part of the bullying comes from the clique/management deliberately sabotaging the process, even if Selen did things 100% correct. Which is why I hate the “bbbbut Selen didn’t follow DA RULES!” Argument

[Anonymous No.]

>>69300600
gee anon i wonder why

[Anonymous No.]

So what's the best course of action here for Selen? And will Nijisanji get away with it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69300600
Because people are probably discussing it in threads like us anon

Youtube chats are just throwing shit out knowing you won't get funny discussion

[Anonymous No.]

HAHAHAHA THIS BUISINESS LAWYER IS SO HONEST AND SO BASED

[Anonymous No.]

>>69300667
Me. I've been following Andrew since the Depp trials before Nick Rekieta turned into a retarded lolcow.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69300571
retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>69300524
The moment Doki lawyer'd up and served Niji the papers, she was prepared to get doxxed. That's just the way legal fights work.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69300524
Doki could very well win a lawsuit against them but it could be too lengthy and too emotionally damaging to go through with it and she might be better offf just doing nothing unless Nijisanji forces her hand.
Nijisanji is a corporation and could make it costly and lengthy for Doki to sue but they've massively fucked themselves over from that Eliria stream and their statements.

[Anonymous No.]

>2%

[Anonymous No.]

>>69300311
>>69300116
Apparently there's implications in Doki's given statements that they were negligent etc with money and made her/etc pay, yet other talents didn't. Apparently one of the clique bought an apartment out in eastern Canada which is pretty much around $250,000 plus, as well as Enna went on like months long vacations last year? Yes, circumstantial evidence that they've been hustling JP...

[Anonymous No.]

>>69300589
Yeah but that money was effectively stolen from Selen by management because they took from NijiEN's coffers and then made Selen actually pay for stuff.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69300726
Overly broad vague rules with highly subjective enforcement are the tools of choice for a dictatorship.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69300678
if she manages to do it in canada only, under labour laws, suing would be great

[Anonymous No.]

I'd rather Doki not sue and let NijiEN fall apart on their own. If they are indeed restructuring, then maybe some livers will be terminated in the guise of graduation. Gotta cut off the cancerous parts

[Anonymous No.]

The funny thing is that he's assuming Nijisanji's legal team is competent when he talks about how they might run circles around them to delay them

[Anonymous No.]

>>69300549
You don't know the history of polka?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69300734
Probaby nothing. Trying to sue isn't gonna do her much do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69300678
unless said lawyer is a family member doing it probono for her and just wants to burn niji for a hobby

[Anonymous No.]

He hasn't touched much on the labor law side. Labor claims are generally much easier for the employee to go through.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69300804
>The same legal team that wrote the two tweets
>The same legal team that approved the black stream
they're fucking done for lmao

[Anonymous No.]

NIJINIGGERS ON SUICIDEWATCH

[Anonymous No.]

>>69300734
For Doki?, to do nothing and move on, for nijisanji?, the damage is already done and there will be some sacrificial lambs, but give it a year and it's gonna be back on business.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69300734
Practically? She has no adequate resources to take on Nijisanji. A lawsuit is a bad decision. 100%.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69300799
The remaining talents will probably jump ship like rats. Pomu got off right on time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69300734
mutual settlement agreement

[Anonymous No.]

>>69300734
They are saying that it's better for her to not sue because of how much time and money it will take her. $500k as a start for this lawsuit is normal. The more the lawsuit takes longer the more money she will need.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69300734
Live her own life

[Anonymous No.]

>>69300726
People always hammer on "muh rules" as though a Japanese corporation doesn't have 100,000 rules that they will selectively or even retroactively apply so that they have a way to look correct no matter what the situation.

[Anonymous No.]

KEK

[Anonymous No.]

KEK

[Anonymous No.]

>>69300881
Almost nobody will want to join after this.

[Anonymous No.]

>Blowjob ASMR mentioned

[Anonymous No.]

SISTERS BTFO

[Anonymous No.]

>>69300804
Fuck, he is giving them ideas.

[Anonymous No.]

No fucking way

[Anonymous No.]

THE BLOWJOB ASMR ROLEPLAY VIDS KEK

[Anonymous No.]

kek this guy is finding out about the depths that vox went to

[Anonymous No.]

BLOWJOB ASMR

[Anonymous No.]

Lmao great reaction right there

[Anonymous No.]

OH DEAR GOD

[Anonymous No.]

>>69300858
>The same legal team who lost the Roa case
>The same legal team who lost the Narukami case

[Anonymous No.]

>fujoshi is female NEET
wat

[Anonymous No.]

>Andrew do you know what a fujoshi is?

[Anonymous No.]

Wait, Elira, Vox, and Ike COULD sue if they didn't volunteer but its the same issue of a drawn out legal battle with a company.

Get fucked KEK

[Anonymous No.]

LOOOOOL THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT VOX'S BLOWJOB ASMR

[Anonymous No.]

>>69300311
>>69300391
>>69300610
Let me rephrase what I wrote. It was only for a particular month where Millie was almost paid close to nothing because of that cover. Back then she was still living in her old apartment with roommates.
Also, regarding her old home, she was pissed at one of her roommates for giving her covid that got her hospitalized (despite being fully vaxxed) so sometime around October 2022, days after she got out of the hospital, she looked for homes to move into, and found an apartment close to Enna's. The reason why she was pissed at that roommate is because said roommate went to party somewhere even though at that time it wasn't still allowed or something according to Millie. Said roommate got everyone in their home covid.

[Anonymous No.]

>BJ ASMR
Hahahahahaha, sister btfo

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>>69300734
Do nothing. Coincidentally that's what she planned to do, likely because her own lawyer advised the same, not to mention she'd rather play APEX or something. Yes, she may have a decent case, but then there's the reality of suing a Japanese corporation, and that's always a nightmare.

[Anonymous No.]

SISTERS DON'T LOOK

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>Sisters getting shat on directly
HOLY SHIT

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>>69300271
>Dont know about Vshoujo, but probably the same
Vshojo's claim to fame besides not owning vtuber's IPs is that it doesn't take cuts from donos or subs. It also takes a less than 50% cut from merch. It works differently than the other companies though because it only recruits 4view pre-established vtubers.

[Anonymous No.]

ROTTEN WOMEN BTFO

[Anonymous No.]

OH NO NO NO. NOT THE BLOWJOB ASMR

[Anonymous No.]

Holy fuck this stream

[Anonymous No.]

OH NONONO SISTERS

[Anonymous No.]

holy fuck

[Anonymous No.]

vox fans look like this

[Anonymous No.]

oh no no no no NDF will fucking mobilize

[Anonymous No.]

OH NONONONO SISTERS

[Anonymous No.]

Fujoshis are just women who salivate over two men kissing. We're in 2024 god dammi how are people still getting it wrong?

[Anonymous No.]

AIIIIIEEEEEEEEE FUJOSHI NIPPLES ON STREAM

[Anonymous No.]

OH NO NO NO FUJOKEKS

[Anonymous No.]

KNEEL, NOW

[Anonymous No.]

Kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>69300994
Wait really? LMAO GET FUCKED

[Anonymous No.]

OOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOOOOOO

[Anonymous No.]

>>69300985
That's Gator trying to explain it to normie

[Anonymous No.]

There's nothing wrong with blowjob ASMR.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69301049
>>69301047
>>69301042

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>>69300831
Honestly, a Dragoon lawyer might unironically do this, a whole TEAM of them even

[Anonymous No.]

Sisters...he's laughing at you

[Anonymous No.]

lmao this shit's too good

[Anonymous No.]

>>69300994
i bet they're regretting "volunteering" themselves for the stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>69301042
>>69301047
>>69301049
JESAS

[Anonymous No.]

SISTERS GETTING SHAT ON IN REAL TIME KEK

[Anonymous No.]

You just know this guy's gonna be sharing this shit with his lawyer bros over six martini lunch come Monday.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69301042
>>69301047
>>69301049
aieeeeeeee fujomind

[Anonymous No.]

>>69300994
If they sue, would their reputation be somewhat restored? I mean suing would mean they were innocent and were forced into doing that stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69300913
Like what? Take back their defamatory remarks and "unterminate" her into a normal graduation?

[Anonymous No.]

SISTERS CONTINUE TO GET BITCHED FUCKED OUT

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>>69300734
Best move would unfortunately be to just move on. Niji ironically propelled her career as an indie to godly heights and suing would just be stress and drama for little gain. Niji would get away with it, but they've had their reputation in the west annihilated in the process, which is some victory depending on your position.

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>>69301042
>>69301047
>>69301049
Would

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>>69301042
>>69301047
>>69301049
Voxsisters, our response?!

[Anonymous No.]

>>69301042
>>69301047
>>69301049
WTF you shouldn't doxx sisters.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69300831
i think i saw one selen stream and i watched like 1/3 of her streams since she came back. if she said "i need money for a lawsuit" i'll drop $1k just because these people piss me off. i dunno how many people there are like me but i need these sorts of agencies to burn.

[Anonymous No.]

>Crowdfund a lawsuit
Holy fuck, amazing idea

[Anonymous No.]

>>69301144
Yeah nice reputation nimrod. Now pay up on the legal fees, you owe $300,000

[Anonymous No.]

>>69301042
>>69301047
>>69301049

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>>69301103
theres a lot of wrong with blowjob asmr if you are giving the blowjob

[Anonymous No.]

BASED LAWMAN

[Anonymous No.]

>>69298604
Even if she doesn't, they're still fucked. Business will be permanently down after fucking over their own trustworthiness.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69300994
If they were forced or lied to of course they could.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69301207
HE WAS PITCHIN'!?!

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>>69301201
Happened with Vic vs Monica Rial, I could see it as a possibility.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69301103
you are right, but is still funny kek.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69301049
>Shows meme shitting on fujos
>Instantly loses 100 viewers.
KEK. SISTERS ARE MALDING.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69297374

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>>69300784
Threads getting flooded with spam so reposting

[Anonymous No.]

Technically, Vox fans are yumejoshis not fujoshis.

[Anonymous No.]

>Elira stream was laywer reviewed, but by shit lawyers

[Anonymous No.]

Nijisanji Defender mention

[Anonymous No.]

NDF mentioned lmao

[Anonymous No.]

NIJI LAWYERW CALLED OUT

[Anonymous No.]

>They are Disney lawyer
kek

[Anonymous No.]

NDF BTFO

[Anonymous No.]

>Family member OR Dragoon Lawyer
>Crowd funded
Would it work?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69300784
>Apparently one of the clique bought an apartment out in eastern Canada which is pretty much around $250,000 plus
when did this happen? because as far as I know, Millie only moved to another apartment in 2022, and if Selen's problems with the company started in 2023, wouldn't that make Millie innocent?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69301258
did you think chat was typing gagging sounds the whole time?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69301258
Niji clique? He's gotta go!

[Anonymous No.]

If the rrat about the clique trying to rally other creators to their side is true (daph or whatever), it’s just so fucking sad. Meanwhile they’ve had their asses handed to them many times over. They can’t salvage it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69301042
>>69301047
>>69301049
KINO

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>>69301122
>Legal Mindset talks about this to his lawyer friends
>they all have a hearty laugh
>"does anyone have connections in Canada?"
>canadian lawyer loves how hilarious the situation is
>tells his friends
>someone decides they want in on it
>Doki gets a second lawyer
Lawyers need money for this kind of work esp against a company but i really want to believe she gets free help from normalfags wanting to virtue signal with their law degrees

[Anonymous No.]

Remember how fucking bad these self-styled lawyers are at negotiating basic license agreements, and then imagine them trying their hand at litigation. If she gets them into a courtroom they are dead. Dead.

[Anonymous No.]

>The Black message [Elira's Stream] was definitely lawyer-reviewed, I just think they're not that great like Disney Lawyers. Nijisanji defenders said that the lawyers are great.

>Wrong, corporate lawyers are not lafy tafy and sometimes don't know what they're talking about. Sat on their lauriels, this is the biggest thing and probably have no scope of reference. This is their titanic, don't pretend they know what they're doing.

HAHAHAHA THEIR FUCKING LAWAYERS ARE PANICKING LOOOOOL

[Anonymous No.]

Motherfucker just pulled a Trump "Wrong", leaned into the mic and everything KEK

[Anonymous No.]

>>69301348
Like this perhaps?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69301341
Correction, Dragoon lawyer TEAM

There's too many of us, they can't win kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>69301312
If you want to be the wife of someone who does blowjob asmr, you are a fujoshi not a yumejoshi

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>>69300561
they not giving her a dime and force her to sue. she can move on and keep wahtever money she got, or sue and lose all her money.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69301312
Pretty sure Vox is a confirmed gigafaggot so no, the sisters are fujos

[Anonymous No.]

>>69298430
The moral high ground IS to sue them.
However, it's perfectly understandably and NOT immoral if she doesn't. It's entirely in her hands.

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>>69301150
They have to work out a mutual statement. Doki says that they've settled amicably and she accepts their apologies, Riku admits fault and apologizes in a way that looks like came from a boatload of honest mistakes instead of maliciousness, some middle scapegoats get fired. Everyone else makes unofficial apologies. No mention of how much is exchanged.
That's probably Anycolor's best case scenario.

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>>69301348
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFpU7INIU4M

[Anonymous No.]

>>69301348
Sisters had the chance to be funny there by typing "it stinks... why didn't you wash it..." and roleplaying gagging and vomiting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69301443
>Dragoon Lawer Surge
KINO

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>>69301201
>>69301341
I think Doki's struggle wouldn't be the money so much as the time. Having an ongoing international lawsuit against a massive corporation is stressful, even if she was able to get enough money and/or lawyers willing to help pro bono.

As nice as it would be to see Niji burn for this, I don't think she's in the mental state to commit to a dragged-out legal battle.

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>>69301402
>none of them speak english
>they have some pimply teenager hired at minimum wage translating for them in the courtroom
>it's entirely fucked because he only learned from watching anime

[Anonymous No.]

>>69297463
And why would a Japanese corporation be subject to Canadian law?

[Anonymous No.]

Thank God I kept up with Andrew's streams. This thread is fun as fuck

[Anonymous No.]

>Canadian organs are fucked

[Anonymous No.]

QRD on who these two dudes are and what they have been talking about?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69301509
1000% agree, I think the people who want her to sue are stupid. You understand the scope of this on a practical and emotional viewpoint. It's hard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69301470
I won't think badly of her if she doesn't want to deal with it. NijiEN's been struck brutally as it is. Their reputation is in the gutter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69301423
Remember he's already saying this while being completely unaware about how they bungled all the other Japanese cases

[Anonymous No.]

>>69301396
>Doki gets a second lawyer
>Then two more walk into the room
>This plays
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRrOLTHu-ew

[Anonymous No.]

>>69301548
They operate in canada with canadian employees

[Anonymous No.]

>>69301548
Because they are hiring Canadians.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69301610
that's amazing

[Anonymous No.]

NDF got BTFO'D
LMAOO

[Anonymous No.]

LMAO

[Anonymous No.]

>>69301509
What if Sayu actually has a case?

[Anonymous No.]

A FUCKING MONKEY

[Anonymous No.]

>>69300804
there are no anti-SLAPP laws in japan, so it might as well happen

[Anonymous No.]

>>69301548
Because they hired a citizen of Canada who works from Canada.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69300029
It's true, they're just flesh dramafags.

[Anonymous No.]

FUCKING MONKEY

[Anonymous No.]

>monkey mentioned

[Anonymous No.]

A FUCKING MONKEY

[Anonymous No.]

A FAKING WHAT?!

[Anonymous No.]

>>69301548
>hires canadians
>expects to not follow canadian law
???

[Anonymous No.]

Pekora bought a FUCKING MONKE?

[Anonymous No.]

>Monkey mentioned

[Anonymous No.]

>>69301600
I completely agree with you, I just don't want Nijisanji to get out of this unscathed.

[Anonymous No.]

a fucking monkey?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69301548
>hurr durr why would an EN branch hiring EN people living in EN be subject to EN laws?
Dunno man. It's a mystery.

[Anonymous No.]

FUCKING MONKEY

[Anonymous No.]

JILL LOVE

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

A FUCKING MONKEY

[Anonymous No.]

He has the monkey

[Anonymous No.]

ENTER

[Anonymous No.]

HES SHOWING THE FUCKING MONKEY

[Anonymous No.]

A FUCKING MONKEY?!

[Anonymous No.]

>jill is more important than riku

[Anonymous No.]

>pekora monkey
>uh what? That's not a monkey, she thinks thats a monkey?
Man this guy is gold

[Anonymous No.]

>>69301548
Jesus Christ, sister has been asking this shit for more than a fucking week. We answered this already you retard monkey

[Anonymous No.]

>>69301610
Damn someone tell him about the Road and Narukami fiasco in chat please.

[Anonymous No.]

This is cringe but kino

[Anonymous No.]

ENTER RIKU

[Anonymous No.]

>>69301715
They got publicly executed, if you want more fire, you can do it through other means than the courts :)

[Anonymous No.]

>could not start more Japanese

KEK

[Anonymous No.]

>>69301548
That depends. Do you want to employ canadians? Do you want to ship acrylic stands to Canada? Do you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69299033
Can someone post the gurrat here in this thread?

[Anonymous No.]

New thread doko

[Anonymous No.]

>>69301678
For her it'd almost be the opposite, where I could see her being more willing for the vindication it would give, though she might have a harder time drumming up support and funding because she doesn't have the same wave of momentum that Doki has right now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69301790
I don't follow your retarded ass, don't jump down my throat for asking a question

[Anonymous No.]

>>69301857
one sec

[Anonymous No.]

Do Americans really pronounce Pekora as Pakora??

[Anonymous No.]

>>69301437
Every time I see this, my will to live is halved.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69301857
>>69301892
bread
>>69301959
>>69301959
>>69301959

[Anonymous No.]

I haven't laugh this hard in a long time, Bravo pure kino

[Anonymous No.]

>>69301880
No. This has been answered so many times that you're simply derailing the conversation with your spoonfed ass. Go back to taking dog dick.

[Anonymous No.]

>That's fucked up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69301509
Yeah the best thing for everyone would be she just continuing on and NijiEN being folded into JP with most of the talent graduated

[Anonymous No.]

>>69301847
As a general rule, I advocate for the destruction of the Canadian menace.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69301796
pigposter… come back to lcg we miss you

[Anonymous No.]

>seren

[Anonymous No.]

>>69301790
a not monkey is smarter than the poster you're replying too, anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69301750
IT'S ALIVE?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69300831
and the family members wife says, "honey its ok if we dont make any income for the next 3 years, you go be her lawyer fulltime."

[Anonymous No.]

>>69301342
>>69302004
>>69302007
Holy shit this thread is fuckn' flying now and getting spammed lol. Wasn't like 10 mins ago...
Um wtf... why do you even care about that? STFU Millie lmao. Why the fixation on her? For realz. I didn't even mention Millie whatsoever, so she's the one I'm talking about?

[Anonymous No.]

>chad that just runs through 30 women whenever he goes anywhere
>also a lawyer
>wants to hit smug cunts like he's rough and tumble from the streets
WHAT THE FUCK HAVE I BEEN DOING WITH MY LIFE
IM TOO TIMID DAMMIT

[Anonymous No.]

>>69302024
then stay the fuck on your side of the line, yankee.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69302172
do you realize how many cases lawyers take on, paralegals do the grunt work

[Anonymous No.]

Is that Danielle mod on chat his gf?...

[Anonymous No.]

>>69302183
>...
Shut the fuck up Millie

[Anonymous No.]

>>69302254
Based knower

[Anonymous No.]

>>69301600
and the companies exploit this fact to get away with it scot-free. kinda fucked really.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69298980
no you fucking retard, that's not a literal physical threat, he's not fucked, you're just absolutely fucking retarded.

God save Niji if you're the tier of legal awareness they're armed with, they're going to sink with no survivors

[Anonymous No.]

>>69301199
you can still send her $1k

[Anonymous No.]

>>69299795
>That Niji self-reported themselves for no reason and acted like it was a good play from them when it was not?
funniest shit that happened throught the whole drama

[Anonymous No.]

>>69298575
I read it in their voices

[Anonymous No.]

>>69300610
Their managers are in Japan according to their own interviews even if they're from other countries.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69302579
she's doing fine in terms of vtuber operations and i'm happy with a basic membership. if she wants to go to war then i will open the war chest.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69298575
/SCAM/ WINS in the end
I'm the only one who remembers their duo-thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69300784
>>69300116
>>69300784
>>69300116
>>69300367
>>69302183
>>69302331 No, you shut up Millie lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>irreplaceable
>accelerate

[Anonymous No.]

BAU BAU

[Anonymous No.]

>bau bau
>bau bau
lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>69301481
>No mention of how much is exchanged.
nothing will be exchanged, doki wants to move on and niji wants her to sue so they can bleed her pennyless and clean house back in nijien.

[Anonymous No.]

>Middle aged lawyer man
>gets to fuck university age japanese chicks and has admitted to doing so whenever he goes
>probably has a nice house and a reliable car
god I wish that was me

[Anonymous No.]

>>69300025
snitches, telling all their business
Sit in the court and be their own star witness
Do you see the perpetrator? Yeah, I'm right here
Fuck around, get the whole label sent up for years,

[Anonymous No.]

>>69301437
how many of these are actually men?

[Anonymous No.]

>never thought I'd be talking to an emoji when I went to law school
Trust me bro, none of us did.

[Anonymous No.]

>but combined they are a mighty faggot

[Anonymous No.]

holy hell this guy is based

[Anonymous No.]

>The paralegals are the ones in the trenches that know the shit
YOU'RE DAMN FUCKING RIGHT

[Anonymous No.]

>>69300957
as if it news that vtuber corps arent a black business before this fiasco. Its still very good money despite the 2% merch and people will still apply. Especially if they merge EN with Jp.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69303202
Phoenix Wright getting testimony from a parrot doesn't sound so farfetched nowadays.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69303202
If I told my lawyer grandfather about this stream he would probably die due to shock and laughter

[Anonymous No.]

>>69303553
What about the radio...

[Anonymous No.]

>>69303677
because niji and bullies will go scott free?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69303777
I mean, that's just a vtuber, right

[Anonymous No.]

He only responds to superchats and ignores chat.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69303938
He's a lawyer. It's a work environment that puts you in a very mercenary mindset if you do it long enough.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69303938
That's just fleshstreamers in general. We are very spoiled in the regard that even biggest chuubas might respond to a random grey if they find the comment funny.

[Anonymous No.]

BASED sub > dub.
Holy fuck, first time i see flesh streamer with taste.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69304257
go to the new thread >>69301959

[Anonymous No.]

>>69304047
>>69304201
Fair, makes sense I suppose. We really are spoiled by our girls.

[Anonymous No.]

How much does cover pay him?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69304512
more than $8/hr

[Anonymous No.]

>>69296440
What case would Elira have against Niji? She was either complicit or the direct cause of any grievance she would have with the management.