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We need to reevaluate some things about where some vtubers stand on NijiEN vs. Doki

People point at Kuro unfollowing Doki as a sign that he and Matara are against her. But maybe they don't want to be dragged into the drama and are keeping out of it.
The fact is Matara and Kuro have been in Japan for a long time now and ever since has not meet the NijiEN members who are also in Japan currently. Matara and Kuro are even doing big group parties in Japan and have never once invited NijiEN to them. Their most current party has Matara, Kuro, Kson, Onigiri, and IPN. It's safe to say that these five are impartial towards the drama, but Kuro talked shit about what happened inside NijiEN, so he's likely Team Doki.
Pomu is also avoiding doing anything with NijiEN since she's been in Japan, but has met Matara and also talked shit about NijiEN, so also Team Doki.

Against Doki:
39daph
Ama
Girl_DM (liked Enna tweets recently)
Amalee (liked Ren tweets recently)

Team Doki:
Sayu
Pomu
iPN
RPR
Mumei
Unnammed
Critikal
Asmongold

Fence Sitters or Impartial:
AmaLee (has interacted with both Ren and Doki tweets)
Kson
Matara
Onigiri


tl;dr everybody defaults to being on Team Doki, but who are the weirdos in the community who are supporting the EN talents?

>> No.69352287

Did a female post this?

>> No.69352437

I don't know who 95% of these people are.

>> No.69352453

>why arent ex-livers interacting with active livers
Are you kidding me?

>> No.69352495

>>69352453
Matara has no problem teasing when she's hanging out or talking about a NijiEN before.

>> No.69352505
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>>69352287
OP is a highschooler

>> No.69352537

iPN is antidoki. He’s just trying to get to Rosemi

>> No.69356228

>>69351791
>Mumei
Has nothing to do with this doxxfag

>> No.69356795

>>69351791
https://twitter.com/snuffyowo/status/1757239393008386219

>> No.69356909

>>69356795
BASED also hasn't interacted with any NijiEN member since unlike Girl_DM or Amalee.

>> No.69356996

>>69351791
Just saw this thread and felt like replying that nobody knows what Kuro and Mata have done for most of their time in Japan. Mata in particular has met with a LOT of people while there, and I'd bet anything at least one of them is Oliver from NijiJP considering she's there with Kuro and Mika too who are also friends with him. It's more than possible she met up with some of the EN's there because she literally can't say she met them if she did.

>> No.69357068

>>69356996
>It's more than possible she met up with some of the EN's there because she literally can't say she met them if she did.
You don't know Matara. She'd give not so subtle hints and teases about it if she did.

>> No.69357143

Fillian is Team Doki. She said she thought she was pretty sick nasty. Which I think means she likes her.

>> No.69357184

>>69357143
Has she said or done anything publicly towards Doki though?

>> No.69357304

>>69357184
she said she wants to collab with Doki and supposedly has/is setting one up. not sure where the confirmation on actually setting one up comes from though, but the clip of her saying she wants to collab is out there.

>> No.69357333

>>69357304
Cool

>> No.69357334

Pomu hasn't said shit other than that she was sad. Leave my anime wife out of this shit.

Also no one should want Asmondgold on their side. Dude lives in a roach infested shit pile, he makes most vtubers look sane.

>> No.69357446

>>69357334
that's why i keep spiders in my room.

>> No.69357523

>>69351791
>Team Doki:
>Pomu
As far as I know, the nerd hasn't said shit.

>> No.69357531

>>69357334
What else is this supposed to mean, huh?
>But when I first joined, I had no idea things would get like this
And she's been vocal about meeting with a random indie, Matara, and that Metal Gear fanartist. If she met up with any NijiEN, she'd find a way to talk about it.

>> No.69357533

Anyone choosing to get involved and pick sides is fucking stupid.

>> No.69357552

>>69351791
Don't confuse things. NijiEN is something that needs to be evaluated independently of anyone else involved. It's also incorrect to say that devils advocate or applying logic to explain NijiEN is the same as defending NijiEN.
Show me people that actually support NijiEN and defend them, but at most you will just default to people playing devil's advocate and trying to be objective. That's not a good defense of NijiEN even if you try and do Olympic levels of mental gymnastics.

>> No.69357658

>>69357531
>and that Metal Gear fanartist
Its Pomu reincarnationg /tactical/?

>> No.69357695

>>69351791
>Fence Sitters or Impartial:
>Kson
Nah, she made that one tweet about being fucking mad when she saw what was happening.

>> No.69357703

>>69357533
Fencesitter opinion

>> No.69357787
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69357787

>>69351791
>let's drag more people outside the company into our civil war
What could go wrong?

>> No.69357819

>>69357695
i didnt really take that xeet as her taking a side though. it felt more like condemnation of the whole thing in general. guess that slightly leans more towards the Doki side, as if Niji had terminated her differently none of this would've happened, but thats still only at best an implied light nudge towards that side.

>> No.69357821

>>69357523
She has said as much as Petra's PL.

>> No.69357827

>>69357703
I read that as facesitter opinion, not gonna lie.

>> No.69357866

>>69351791
>AGAINST: AMALEE
>FENCE SITTER: AMALEE
lol

>> No.69357901

>>69357819
Anon, Kson went to bat for Sayu and is proud of have been black listed by Niji. She is 100% Team Doki.

>> No.69357902

>>69357695
See, I don't know about that for sure. I look at it partially the same way as some Holostars said
>wow twitter sucks love yourself

>> No.69357994

>>69351791
holy shit you are such a fucking schizo lmao

>> No.69358052

>>69357901
>Known niji anti is a niji anti who supports even retards like Sayu
woah, such a surprise

>> No.69358102

>>69357703
I'm not talking about fence sitting dipshit. No one cares if you show emotional support for individuals. Getting involved in the drama itself and calling people out is fucking dumb. That's what I'm talking about. All it takes is for some crazy ass receipts to come out from either side and suddenly you look like a moron.

>> No.69358180

>>69357703
The fence is shoved firmly up my ass. You ain't getting me down from there.

>> No.69358257

How do we consider cross interactions between these people?
Yuniiho is Team Doki and was in full support of people shitposting in the "positive spam" tag, but she's still interacted with Girl_DM, who is against Doki.

>> No.69358498

>>69357901
>hates niji
>is team dramabird
No.

>> No.69358506

Anny pretty openly supported Doki on stream while shitting on the company, though she was mutuals with Shachi before holoEN was a thing.

>> No.69358556

>>69351791
>Team Doki:
>Pomu
retard

>> No.69358579

Reiny's still collabing and interacts with the Nijis AND has neither condemned their actions towards Doki or shown support of Doki during this. Disappointed in her is all I can say

>> No.69358617

>>69357068
I've actually been watching her streams anon. One of the very first things she mentioned in the first Giri collab here was that she'd spent basically the entire first 2 days out meeting other people that she didn't give any details on and Giri didn't know.

>> No.69358659

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPDIyHhhEI4
The Hitler parody is out, it's nyover

>> No.69358680

>>69358506
who the hell is anny?

>> No.69358692

>>69358052
Turns out sayu may have not been as much a retard as we assumed judging by the past weeks antics.

>> No.69358700

>>69358257
people are overlooking that even if you personally dont agree with it, alot of others probably see being anti-niji and anti-niji talents as different.
may or may not explain Girl-DM.-9

>> No.69358790

>>69358700
>alot of others probably see being anti-niji and anti-niji talents as different.
Those people are retarded then.
You be anti-company while supporting the company's products

>> No.69358869

>>69351791
Zen follows Doki on twitter so I'm sure they will collab eventually.

>> No.69358878

>>69358579
she's joining lol

>> No.69359003

>>69358790
>vtubers/media talents are generally retarded.
i mean... yeah. i agree.

>> No.69359039

>>69358790
They're people, not products. That's Nijisanji thinking.

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69359044

>>69358659
kek

>> No.69359052

girl dm still follows doki
largely if you're indie you either support her or are neutral, if you're corporate you don't support her(don't want to step on any toes

>> No.69359161

>>69358680
shot in the dark guess, but probably the indie related to vedal. artist of neuro-sama?
https://www.twitch.tv/anny

>> No.69359255

>>69358878
that's bad news since Flayon, Rin Penrose, and even the Koefficient have come out in support of her

>> No.69359456

>>69351791
Aethel is team Doki, he was making fun of Nijisanji even before she was terminated.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgP6NGyzd2g
He has inside knowledge because he's friends with Kyo, and said if she ever wants to collab with him just hit him up. This also makes me think that Kyo doesn't have anything against Doki despite the fact that he's friends with Daph.

>> No.69359547

>>69351791
>let's divide even further
Do PC fags really?

>> No.69359793

Merryweather's been liking recent Enna tweets
Hyunicat drew goddamn Elira fanart
Reiny is still interacting with NijiEN, and worst case scenario may join Niji soon

>> No.69359862

>>69351791
The only one of these who can conclusively be said to be ”against Doki” according to their own statements would be 39daph.
But i would be wary of anyone who associates or regularly interacts with Kyo.

>> No.69359891

>>69351791
Are Amalee and AmaLee different people or is this schizophrenia?

>> No.69359900

What the fuck does 39daph have to do in any of this

>> No.69359937

>>69359255
Rin got in on the drama? really?
she always actually came off as the one playing things the safest in her corpo from what i remember.

>> No.69359948

>>69359862
>But i would be wary of anyone who associates or regularly interacts with Kyo.
Aethel made it clear he hates the company. Kyo maybe is in the clear?

>> No.69359966

>>69359547
What does PC have to do with this?

>> No.69360034

>>69359900
they've come out ragging on Doki and in support of Niji in some long winded chatlogs.

>> No.69360036

>>69359456
>This also makes me think that Kyo doesn't have anything against Doki despite the fact that he's friends with Daph.
I honestly doubt that anyone at niji has truly anything against Doki (or Sayu even), except maybe the 3 stooges. It's just a black corpo being a black corpo and encouraging that kind of environment.

>> No.69360041

>>69358692
>a retard as we assumed
>we
did we? i assumed that was only the xitter trannies. maybe it's because i don't scour the catalog whenever there's drama, but anons were supportive of sayu and shat on nijien in the threads i went to.

>> No.69360043

>>69359937
She may not know that Reiny is sucking up to Niji

>> No.69360138

>>69351791
>>69359891
schizophrenia.
also i'm pretty sure she's not a fence sitter considering how her vtuber best friend(?) cyyu is on doki's side so i feel like she'd mirror that statement.
never watched a thing she's put out so i wouldn't know but she is a voice actress in a game i play.

>> No.69360226

>>69360043
i meant getting involved on either side in general is surprising.
she could just actually have morals she cares about over one work-friendship in terms of who she supports.

>> No.69360250

>>69352287
Fpbp

>> No.69360326

>>69360041
I remember the entire board supporting her and shitting on Niji when her termination happened, except for the Nijidrones ofcourse.

>> No.69361005

>>69359948
No. Kyo is still a trash human being
>>69359793
Merry is the penultimate clout chaser, of course he would

>> No.69361079

>>69360138
>considering how her vtuber best friend(?) cyyu is on doki's side so
CyYu liked Ren's
>please don't bully me we did nothing wong ;(
He's a fence sitter at best, or anti Doki

>> No.69361101

Reminder:
Enna claims to be a virgin to appeal to her femcel audience.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0l1LhoVKBUw

But Enna has dated and moved in for more than a year with multiple boyfriends and fakes being a femcel for viewer engagement.
https://streamable.com/52f2jr

Also Enna craves BWC and fucked Kyo during their offcollab
https://streamable.com/qj593c

>> No.69361159

>>69358102
>Getting involved in the drama itself and calling people out is fucking dumb.
If Puppetgate is real, I mean.................

>> No.69361236

>>69351791
>tl;dr everybody defaults to being on Team Doki, but who are the weirdos in the community who are supporting the EN talents?
Let's see if an autist compiles a list lol

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ALL OUT WAR
what are the odds niji and the NDF makes this a global streamer conflict making everyone choose sides

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69361304

I fucking Sayu, grifting piece of shit and I hope Doki finally succeds at killing herself someday.

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69361541

>>69352287
fpbp

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69361548

>>69361304
I fucking sayu too

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>>69351791
>Pomu
She doesn't even follow her, you stupid fuck.

>Critikal
>Asmongold
Oh you're 12, nevermind.

>> No.69361620

>>69361554
>She doesn't even follow her, you stupid fuck.
doesnt follow matara either, whats your point? pomu disavowed the shit with the clique and elira

>> No.69361645

>>69357184

Filian got confirmation from niji management for a collab.
Selen got then stealth suspended and when chat asked her first time if the collab was going to happen she said she was trying to get reconfirmation but they are radio silent both selen and niji.
the week before the collab was officially scheduled she said she tried again and again radio silent then here eyes went dull and she said she has a plan b just in case but the offer for collab still stands.
day of the collab she said again with blank eyes she has no clue and third contact went nowhere. but her offer was never retracted and she can wait for rescheduling.
Selen got terminated, doki returns.
chat ask if offer to "doki" is still valid, she says 100% yes. she will get into contact.

I would read it as team doki. Oh and I think she once called those "sisters" the same vrchat fricks (hoes) from back then. Makes a bit more sense if you know how vrchat tubers tried cancelling filian like 2-3 times while leaving actual groomers alone because hot dudes.

>> No.69361677

>>69361101
"how long did we live togeth...." *panik*

Red handed and she knew she blew it

>> No.69361735

>>69361304
If your parents could see you write english they would cry. no SEA monkey sends their child to expensive english school only for them to suck so hard at it.

>> No.69361909

>>69351791
You forgot Pomu is currently impartial

>> No.69361950

>>69361620
>pomu disavowed the shit with the clique and elira
source?

>> No.69362212

>>69361620
pomu isn't mentioning nijisanji just so that people don't start harassing her as well, you know she's on elira's side

>> No.69362298

>>69362212
Pomu should be publicly hanged by her nipple piercings then.

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>>69362212
>you know she's on elira's side
No? I don't think she will stop being her friend, but I can't imagine a world where Pomu thought that what Elira did was OK

>> No.69363103

>>69362212
>Person trying to stay out of shit
>Has tried to stay impartial and neutral the entire time, even before leaving the company
>Has avoided every conflict she can, except the manufactured conflict with Nina, then Matara.
>GAIZ SHE IS TOTALLY ON ELIRA'S SIDE
Why are you retards like this

>> No.69363782

So what I can gather
Do Not Support:
39daph, tried to slander Doki
girl_DM, still interacts with Enna's tweets
Amalee, still interacts with Ren's tweets despite him supporting Nijisanji's actions
Merryweather, still interacts with Enna's tweets and other Nijis
Hyunicat, drew recent fanart of Elira
Reiny, still interacting with NijiEN and may join NijiEN soon
CyYu, liked Ren's pitty bait tweet about being "harassed"
Senz, harassed Doki pre-Nijisanji, friends with Vox, and interacts with NijiEN tweets still

Debatable:
Nina Saotome, -interacts with Senz and Merryweather, has shown no support for Doki
Nihmune, -Interacts with Merryweather and Reiny, has shown no support for Doki
Yuniiho, +mocked the idea of supporting NijiEN members, -interacted with Reiny

>> No.69363918

>>69363103
She said that she knew the shit behind the scenes in Niji had gotten bad and she hasn't met any NijiEN in Japan but has met plenty other people. It's obvious she stands against Niji and the remaining ENs there.

>> No.69364057

>>69363782
Nigga shut yo goofy ass up, cracka ass telling me what to do

>> No.69364099

>>69361554
What’s up with this little nigga? You never gonna get pussy if you ain’t down with the crazy chicks.

>> No.69364110

>>69363782
If we're throwing complete rrats out there, add Grimmi to the list.
>Who
Indie that was announcing graduation in late Februrary (about the time that a new Niji wave would be prepping for debut), then when the Selen drama happened suddenly cancelled her graduation. Consipiciously swears that she was not recruited by Niji and her mod team has been aggressively smacking any Niji mentions.

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>>69362870
>I don't think she will stop being her friend
Why not? Doesn't that mean that Doki is just lying and Elira isn't a bully? Or was she also a bully? She worked with Selen for a while, she had to put up with her bullshit all that time, I'm pretty sure she knows nobody was bullying her. I mean, not a single person that is/was in NijiEN is supporting Doki (including their private accounts) with the exception of the only two other people that got terminated, which most likely had zero to no interaction with Selen during their stay.

>> No.69364161

>>69364110
Yeah Grimmim's a good add for the Doki side.

>> No.69364333

>>69364140
>which most likely had zero to no interaction with Selen during their stay.
Unnammed had an offcollab with Selen that was kind of awkward but she's always been a Selen fan I think

>> No.69364432

>>69363103
you don't need her to spell it out publicly if you ever watched them, use your fucking brain

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69364437

>>69364140
>Why not? Doesn't that mean that Doki is just lying and Elira isn't a bully?
No? It only means that not everything is black and white, just like Doki said.

>> No.69364497

>>69352287
Yes

>> No.69364719

>>69364333
Yeah a fan like me and you, we don't know how these people behave behind the scenes when you're working with them.

>> No.69364827

>>69364719
You think Yugo never interacted with Selen while in Niji? Fucking really?

>> No.69364836

>>69364140
>hurr durr the people who left the drama ridden corpo are avoiding latest drama
>That means they have super massive reasons for it and aren't just avoiding drama they have no skin in
So beyond tired of that retarded argument. It requires even more reading of tea leaves than the fucking rrats running around.

>> No.69364962

>>69364437
remove nijisanji the company from the equation, nobody gives a fuck about that. do you really think pomu would still be her friend if it suddenly turned out that elira was the ultimate master gaslighter bully all this time?

>> No.69365042

>>69363782
GX Aura, the Opera sponsored vtuber, likes Hyunicat tweets (Elira apologist) and Yuniiho tweets (debatable support)

>> No.69365236

>>69364962
NTA but yes. It's easy to overlook the misgivings of your friends. Seen it happen way too often over the years.

>> No.69365298

>>69360036
This is about the most level-headed take I've seen on here.

>> No.69365340

>>69364827
bro, selen has crippling social anxiety, do you seriously think she had a meaningful relationship with someone from basically niji jp that got fired 10 months after their debut? they barely knew each other

>> No.69365497

>>69361645
>I would read it as team doki.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQK79wXZ0RU
Yeeeah, just maaaybe...

>> No.69365526

>>69365340
Wasn’t Yugo her only 1-on-1 offcollab?

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>>69365236
This is not "oh she said the n word when she was drunk", this is "she bullied one of my friends to suicide... oh well, everybody makes mistakes tehe pero"

>> No.69365803

>>69363782
GirlDM likes literally everyone and the Enna tweets she liked were unrelated, Amalee also follows Doki, CyYu whined about Niji's auditions wanting him to quit voice acting, Senz has been shitting on Niji too

>> No.69365827

>>69365641
Yes.
I've seen it happen before.
It's one of the worst things that you can watch happen to a friend group.

>> No.69365908

>>69351791
I find it hard to believe girl_dm is not on team Doki.

>> No.69366079

>>69365827
Yeah, if that's the case she probably doesn't give a fuck about Selen then.

>> No.69366351

>>69362298
She should show them off first.

>> No.69366432

>>69365803
So? Doesn't mean they can't be two faced cunts about it

>> No.69367157

>>69357531
>>69357658
Imagine if Pomu gets into hololive and they let her have a sneaking suit military character.

>> No.69367243

>>69364962
Anon, what if I told you Pomu always knew? What if I told you Pomu was a part of the clique? And, what if I told you Selen was part of the clique as well? But fell out of their grace?

See, the real problem with the whole situation is how inept Nijisanji has been with handling it.

>> No.69367663

>>69361645
>Oh and I think she once called those "sisters" the same vrchat fricks (hoes) from back then. Makes a bit more sense if you know how vrchat tubers tried cancelling filian like 2-3 times while leaving actual groomers alone because hot dudes.
Holy shit, please source this because I'll respect Filian immediately

>> No.69367735

>>69367243
If you ever watched selen play apex you'd absolutely believe she's actually the bully. She almost had mental breakdowns every time she played and kept harassing her "friends" while crumbling down at any kind of banter directed at her.

>> No.69367747

>>69363782
illogical list, this is why the gurrat was so powerful...

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>>69367243
nah, there simply was no bullying
nijisanji is trash for many reason like most corpo companies, but there was nothing to handle here until proven otherwise

what was this happy family mv about then?
<<<<<

>> No.69368267

>>69367747
nice falseflag attempt, sister

>> No.69368269

>>69367157
why would she join another shitty corpo company that tells her what she's allowed to play when she's fucking pomu and can just make her own channel

>> No.69368991

>>69367735
Its why I feel she was part of the clique. Doesn't excuse the way the termination letter was worded. Or the braindead stunt the three pulled. Even this whole harassment campaign from the nijisisters feels like bullshit.

>>69368119
Anon, niji is not like most corpos. At least that I know of. The way Niji did ACCELERATE and had poor communication within its EN branch really speaks ill of it. Hell, I am inclined to believe that Elira's clique happened "because" there were no proper tard wranglers in Nijisanji.

>> No.69369025

Hi millie!

>> No.69369131

>>69369025
Did she say something?

>> No.69369467

>>69352287
female detected opinion rejected

>> No.69369792

>>69351791
Going to warn any non-bad faith actors: Don't assume any non-Nijisanji or former Nijisanji chuuba is actively siding against Doki unless they explicitly say so. Most simply do not want to be involved as they don't want to hurt whatever business they have going on in Japan or the West. Focusing on them is a win for the sisters as it takes the heat off the real scumbags: Nijisanji Management and the Elira Clique.

>> No.69369983

>>69365641
>oh she said the n word when she was drunk
You're allowed to say nigger here, sis. Twitter is not going to cancel you.

>> No.69370286

>>69356228
You’re kidding

>> No.69371899

>>69361239
I feel like it's low UNLESS the rrats that Kyo dragged Daph into this are true and other members still loyal to nijiEN start reaching out to their fleshstreamer contacts to call Doki a bitch or whatever

>> No.69372808

>>69364140
https://youtu.be/BpAIgtdOBxk

>> No.69372899

>>69367735
That's just apex players

>> No.69373274

>>69365526
U-san was a dragoon. They actually had an off-collab while Doki was in JP for a Nijifes. Very cute. U-san asked and got to be slapped by the mutant dragon hand, lucky bitch.

>> No.69373518

>>69368119
They literally bullied her off the air in front of hundreds of thousands, they hounded her to cover their asses for something that didn't even involve a copyright claim while she was in the hospital until her emergency contact couldn't handle it anymore and she had to lawyer up, and they put out a three page hit piece on a girl who just had an attempt... Doing it again, as again, they bullied her off the air while she was simply trying to play NeoPets.

There is a distinct culture of bullying at Nijisanji that runs so much to its core to such a degree that it has become entirely self-destructive.

>> No.69373728
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>>69368119
>here simply was no bullying
KILL YOURSELF NIJINIGGER

>> No.69374020
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What about her?

>> No.69374258

>>69368119
>No bullying
>Intentionally overlaps the stream of the woman they just fired
>adds on person for no other reason than he streamed with said woman so they could make a "EVEN HER FRIENDS THINK SHE'S A BITCH" Point
>Throw in "She could have left whenever she wanted to" even though that was clearly throwing salt in the wound
Y-yeah...

>> No.69374375

>>69374020
no way phase supports Niji here (or at least, most of them), but the sheer lack of anything from them means managements told them to keep quiet.

>> No.69374457

>>69374258
I think it was her last desperate gambit to prove that Doki was too unstable to negotiate.

>> No.69374709

>>69373518
I don't give a fuck about the company, I'm talking about the livers

>> No.69374913

>>69369983
I do that to trigger the softies like you here.

>> No.69375165

>>69374020
If this shitstain is on your side you know you fucked up

>> No.69375362

>>69364110
I think that she was going to join Niji but can't confirm it because of an NDA. The rrat explains too much for me to take her at her word.

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>>69351791
>Girl_DM
She was one of my og indie oshis.

>> No.69376044

>>69375762
hse probably is making a distinction between company and talent.
but regardless she never seemed the worst but always seemed lightly a bitch to me.

>> No.69376245

>>69357334
And yet he somehow still has a saner take than Kurosanji and their sycophants.

>> No.69376414

>>69374709
It's unclear if that was just a minor or mitigating factor in the documents describing a "toxic work environment" sent by Doki to Anycolor. What is clear, in her statements both before and after the termination is that mismanagement was a continuous issue, which no one at NijiEN has denied, and it seems, they have continually tried to deflect from. Not to mention that Doki was and is a workaholic.
The rrats might be appealing, because that black stream was so incomprehensibly stupid, but we shouldn't forget that all chubas are mentally ill, until we have more than circumstantial evidence that proves otherwise.

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>>69374020
. . .

>> No.69376652

>>69357819
>i didnt really take that xeet as her taking a side though
How stupid can you be?

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Everyone SHUT THE FUCK UP
GURA IS STREAMING
https://www.youtube.com/live/f5bQIVWIK90?si=JuaYxh4K2c6kM2Uo

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>>69351791
I support NijiEN but I will be the first to say that they need a massive redo. They need to start from the bottom up, make everyone re-interview for their position, make the mission goal clear, what is allowed, what isn't allowed, what the punishments are for doing what isn't allowed and an overall redebut of the entire branch, both livers and staff.

>> No.69377094

>>69374020
wheres that pippa playing runscape finding out about pomus graduation and being confused its not selen

>> No.69377173

>>69374020
>>69374375
Pippa talked about raiding Dokibird at the end of a stream like 2 nights ago but she didn't have raids turned on apparently.
>>69375165
41% yourself already, troon
Also I feel gross just posting in this female thread.

>> No.69377627

>>69377173
oh, did she?
i often skip the last bits of streams. usually just boring superchat reading, and i also often dont catch vods live so who shes gonna raid means little to me from the 'go watch them now!' perspective, aswell as her being nice and raiding someone far from guarantees its actually a vtuber or stream i will enjoy.

>> No.69377854

As a Sayufag I kindly ask you to stop involving my wife is this retarded never ending sister vs sister war. That fat chink ghosted my girl so I can assure that while Sayu's happy that Nijisanji is burning she's is no way a Doki supporter. The mob that is canceling Niji is the same one that lynched Zaion so Imo both sides can go fuck themselves.

>> No.69378373

>>69375165
Kys tranny

>> No.69380104

>>69374457
And it was a fucking retarded gambit. Riku literally came out with an OFFICIAL statement. Hell, he fucking BOWED. And yet they still pulled that shit. And lets be clear about one thing. Doki NEVER said there was bullying, only that she was harassed. If those three had kept their fucking mouths shut, they wouldn't be in the shit they are in now

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>>69357787
>civil war
There's no civil war. If anything, it's the vtuber version of pic related.

>> No.69380975

>>69358506
That Aethel guy is also vocal about being on Doki’s side kek. Had the start of a recent stream dedicated solely to shitting on Niji.

>> No.69381204

>>69351791
So people for Doki are:
Her ex boyfriends (iPN & RPR)
Terminated livers who are assmad (Unnamed & Sayu)
Drama merchants (Critikal & Asmongold)

And no, Pomu doesn't support Doki, she hasn't said shit, and is currently hanging out with Elira in Japan

>> No.69382083

>>69381204
If we’re going by only people who gave a public opinion on the issue then the only ones on Niji’s side are Nijisisters and Nijis themselves (half of which never commented on the black box stream and could have been skinwalked)

>> No.69382374

>>69380104
We don't know what lies on the other end for her personally, she might have thought non-zero chances are better than zero. The whole stream was basically her, her bf and le retard.

>> No.69382520

>>69381204
>and is currently hanging out with Elira in Japan
Proof?

>> No.69382555

>>69377854
Do you actually want her involved in this radioactive situation? Let the bodies cool at least.
Of the ex-nijis, the only one she's even interacted with is U-san so far. Not even Pomu who she was actually closer to.
Unless Sayu said something this week?

>> No.69382858

>>69351791
zaion sex

>> No.69383780

>>69357821
The Petra PL tweet is proven fake

>> No.69384158

>>69351791
Does anyone know what Bonbon is doing rm wise? Or has he just been missing this whole time?

>> No.69384411

>>69382555
I don't, that's why I don't want the former sisters (dragoons) to drag her into this mess. Doki ignored her, that means she doesn't want to be involved with Sayu. So stop painting her as a Doki ally when she has no reason to support her anymore.

>> No.69384570

>>69384158
only bonbon i know is a female DIY gal.

>> No.69385948

>>69384570
embarrassing post

>> No.69385958

You fags are gonna shit your pants if Pomu turns out to be on Elira's side, she has been completely silent when it comes to Doki or Doki related art/artists but has no problem interacting with some clearly pro-niji artists like that Tuna fag.

>> No.69386169

>>69385958
Pomu is a natural brownoser, she never has a problem with anyone whatsoever. I will be VERY surprised if she takes a pro-anyone stance.

>> No.69386429

>>69385948
the one i know is female.
that automatically makes them better, and thats all that matters.

>> No.69386460

>>69384411
Not my intent bro. I'm glad she's managed to stay out of the shitflinging.
>>69384570
Bonnivier, the NijiID bro who'd come out of the woodwork to play with Doki in tournaments at like 4AM

>> No.69387182

>>69386169
I'm just saying anon, that Tuna fag retweeted the account that started spreading the sisters doc against Doki and even gave it a like. If she's neutral then she shouldn't be involving herself with a clear Doki anti- Pro niji artist.

>> No.69388641

Who didn't retweet that shitty statement, btw? All I know is that Fulgur didn't retweeted at first but did so later and seems Scarle and Kyo didn't do it at all.

>> No.69388789

>>69367735
anon, you do realise that the banter "bullying" and the systemic bullying to deny of access to resources inside corpo is different, right?
it's fucking stupid how you relate/compare these two. have you ever held a proper job in your life?

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