/vtwbg/ - VTuber Worldbuilding General

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What if your general was not just a general but a nation, devoted to your oshi and their will? Enter this general where the fanbases and generals of /vt/ are reimagined as rival nations fighting bitter battles or beginning wholesome friendships for the glory of their oshis.

pirate booty Edition

Previously: >>69599199

Interactive map:
https://vtwbg.github.io/

Introductory document for new anons:
https://rentry.org/vtwbg-intro

VITI ARCHIVE:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QxRtAENk7g3hJAlBsEWRJ6KVEItchyvymusJ1Q7ulEs/

BIOME MAP:
https://files.catbox.moe/wz0ad4.png

OTHER PROJECTS:
https://rentry.org/vtwbg-projects

TODO:
>Survive catalog ACCELERATION
>Put more nations in
>Develop existing ones

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Thank you!
Please also report if there's outdated/missing lore in OP.

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Alright you sexy sluts. Im sick AF and can barely move as of right now so mind as well see whats been going on.

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Of course the thread dies when I post a horni pirate story.

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>>69680066
Well, I did like it. It gave me a tropical vibe, I think it was probably happening in one of the warmer oceans.

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Ill check the last bread for it

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Is it just me or the format of the site got funky on me...

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>>69680650
The format? They change it for Halloween and the like, but I haven't noticed anything.

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>>69680650
Update, was just me accidentally hitting the Disable Mobile View button

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>>69680738
Fuck you. I was excited for pumpkin patch bad rap.

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Hey vnugbro. Lets talk about military power. I know that we have a very big underground thing going on so I think its safe to say that vnuggets would be pretty good at underground warfare, possibly vietnam style?
What kind of soldiers we packin? Do we got guns? Magic users like in fire emblem?

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I just realized this
>On average, adult /vnug/ people are about a foot shorter than their human counterpart, with male standing at 4’6” and female at 4’2” on average. They are heavier than humans of the same height, with male and female weighing 70lb and 60lb on average.

HOLY FUCKING CUNNY!

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>>69681310
Damn, I've been thinking about soil chemistry so much I completely forgot about military stuff. I gotta think of ways to weaponize cryomancy beyond that Mortal Kombat video.

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>>69682181
The obvious is ice walls and slippery ice roads. Though what you can make depends on the moisture in the area. Freezing enemy gunpowder so condensation makes it soggy can help.

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>>69682181
Have fun!

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>>69682426
Oh yeah, cold would be better for defensive positions than offense probably.
>>69682433
Well okay!
One obvious thing is magic-tipped projectiles that inflict instant frostbite. You could pretty easily protect from them by adding a waterproof thermal insulation layer to your armor, but it could be pretty effective on the unprepared.

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>>69683147
Reminds me of the frost arrows from Terraria. Also I think space wolves in warhammer have guns that do that.

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>>69685057
Oh right, space wolves have a cold thing going on, should look into that. One thing is that if you just throw liquid nitrogen or dry ice on someone, it's actually relatively not too dangerous, because the substance will instantly evaporate with contact and form a gas cushion that protects whatever you threw it at.
So to weaponize cold properly we'd want some kind of cold napalm that can be extremely cold, sticky, and stays liquid as it warms up, this way it transfers the cold to the target properly.

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>>69685499
Look up pykrete. Apparently some dude wanted to build boats made out of ice.

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>>69686740
Ohh, self-healing ice boat... I like it. If kept really cold it would look pretty cool, it would bring a cloud of fog on the surface of the water with it, like the flying dutchman.

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>>69688442
Ice boat also doesn't get barnacles on the hull, which is nice.

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>>69689273
Argie Lunaito...

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Back at home bump. So anyone hear about the cancelled glacier aircraft carrier?

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>>69695761
Yeah, brits are kinda crazy. I'm surprised at how seriously it was considered, I guess there's merit to it.

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Nap time bump.

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Forget naptime. I'm too upset.

About the iceberg aircraft carrier the idea was abandoned because at the time it costed more time and money to carve out an iceberg big enough to be useable. It wound up being faster to build a carrier instead. There are challenges when making an iceberg ship. One of them is having the iceberg be the right shape to sail since we're still pre-industrial era. And ice is much heavier than wood. You could build a wooden frame then freeze the hull around it. Then you'd have to carve the hull into a useable ship shape to sail with. Cooking is surprisingly less hazardous in ice than on a wooden ship. The ice will absolutely echo from canonfire though. So you'll need ear protection. That said the hull will stand out in warm waters. As for the ship not melting it depends on how much magic you can invest in keeping them cold. If magic is abundant then you will spend less on freezing hulls than you would on wood. Which would be advantageous since wood is non-existent in glacier biomes.

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>>69681310
Good question! I would say there are several things about salamoim physiology that affects what kinda military /vnug/ would have. I imagine when compared to humans, /vnug/ soldiers tend to have lighter equipment (somewhat less relevant in a post-armor age) since their semi-digitigrade legs mean they can carry less than humans. At the same time it also makes them quieter and more agile (perhaps also not very relevant since they still can’t dodge rifle bullets) so an archetypical /vnug/ soldier would be some kinda ambush-focused light infantry. As for their preferred environment them living underground definitely makes them more familiar with fighting there, but since they have infrared sensing like pit vipers I would say they’re generally good at fighting in the dark. Since a good chunk of /vnug/ is dense foggy forest I think they’ll also fight well there, which I guess isn’t that far from the Vietnam analogy
As for weapons I didn’t think too hard about it since I don’t think we ever decided on a general tech level but I imagine we’ll have some kinda guns! That said magic will no doubt play a big role in /vnug/ combat. I personally like how the fighting in my previous story turned out so something like that will probably be common place (even if it might be too fancy for large and serious combat)

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>>69700031
The pykrete guys found that freezing a wood pulp impregnated with water gave a material that thawed really slowly since the wood acted as insulation, I think that a pretty good brainwave. Plus apparently it made it as strong as concrete for the same weight.

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I'm tired bump.

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Bump again.

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goodnight fuckers

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I also miss the old Rosebud writer.

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/pcg/ got collectively described as follows:
>Noted, so basically a country past its prime but also on the upswing with a massive population and lots of brown people and white niggers which is an eclectic confederation of factions that barely get along with each other with large steppes that conquerors go die in, who grows a lot of coffee.
>and also some japanese crap
>Something like that?
Trying to figure out a good spot. I think somewhere with a big variation in climate to go along with large differences between the various fanbases would be nice, and also a spot with a large barren area to get the "Graveyard of Empires" feeling.

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I think coffee is sub-tropical climate at least.

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>>69713786
>>69713530
I did some thinking. I think you're looking for a rocky sub-tropical area if you want a steppe that can grow coffee. You'll have to ask where to put it on the map but you want a climate similar to Columbia if you want lots of coffee. Not sure if we can get an island like Japan.

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>>69680840
Sorry...

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>>69715013
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vxL_r-0VC1k&pp

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>>69714850
May I suggest then that island directly west of uuu?

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>>69713786
>>69714850
Yeah, probably want a chunk in the warmer biomes. Thought I guess we could spec bio some kind of Phase coffee, it's a canadian company after all, so cooler climates would make sense too.
>>69715310
I don't think we want an island, /pcg/ has a long history of chaotic interactions with other threads, so I think we should have plenty of land borders to have shenanigans over. Those four areas look like promising possibilities.

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>>69716326
If it was the open sea like last world then I could see it. But now the world's more landlocked.

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>>69718094
I vote for the one to the northeast.
Phase boutta be Mongols. For the glory of Sakana Khan!

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>>69718455
Won't the savanna/grassland one be better for not!Mongols?

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>>69718894
Maybe the steppes in the northeast could expand a bit farther north?

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>>69718894
What was the northeast one then?

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It seems like /HAHA/ is going to have multiple species/forms of Dragoon birds.

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>>69723288
Yeah, there's Longboy, Chunkyboy and Original, just like when they were purple.

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>>69724876
Don't forget Egg. He's an egg with legs.

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>>69725159
How could I forget Egg... Of course.

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>>69719838
Looks like temperate forest to me

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>>69728725
How do yall pronounce her name?
I do "zay-yon".

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>>69728886
https://youtu.be/HXlrqM1N9No?t=8

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>>69728997
Bro, its blocked

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>>69732980
Huh, what shithole are you from? My shithole is pretty shit and it's not blocked... it's the "daughter of babylon" dialogue from Fallout NV kek.

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>>69733067
The one vt declared the boogeyman

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>>69734151
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Me5gWB_i1Lo

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>>69734396
Gottem
Its the Hebrew version then.

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>>69736345
Who?

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No die

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>>69738934
I said...no...die.

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>>69739974
What did I tell you?
OKITE OKITE OKITE MOTHERFUCKERS

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Is there desire for a more in-detail climate and ocean currents map?

I can make one at some point if people want one, but since we had so many issued with global consistency with climates, i understand if people do not want repeats of that

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CLEAR

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>>69742897
The result of that pic tho...

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live

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Holy shit thread isn't archived.

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>>69742897
I’m split on that since on one hand it sounds lovely but on the other hand I’m already part of the reason why thee planet’s rotating the other way so I’m afraid of the result

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>>69737160
Why, that's Lofi from VNU. Sounds like a Disney character and sings like a siren.

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>>69750217
Her name...is legit Lofi?

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>>69750217
Her singing’s so good…

>>69751476
https://www.youtube.com/@LofiWiseman
Her full name’s Penelope Wiseman but everyone calls her Lofi!

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>>69742897
>>69750161
Maybe if we're more flexible about deviating from it, it'd be fine? Something I realized with research late in the previous project is that a climate has a pretty large variance one way or another because of relatively short term factors like "current hydrology", ice age progression, biological factors, effects of volcanism.
So perhaps something like a global climate map ought to be a bit "blurrier", more like a general idea, and then an individual thread can define it further for their region if they'd like, including large deviations.
Some examples, the Harapan civilization collapsed overnight because all their hydrology fucked off, turning their land from a fertile one into a desert. The Sahara used to be green not so long ago. The inland sea there used to be in America made the West coast much wetter
One thing is that vnug and uuu lowlands will stay super foresty, hard not to be when they're on that side of the continent next to the hottest part of the ocean. But even if they weren't, I think everyone agrees that it's fine for stuff like Fauna magic or slime to be able to increase the forestation of the region.

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>>69751640
>singing’s
Sirens are my weakness, Nerissa and Clara from Phase grabbed me just because I heard them sing (though they're also good streamers).

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>>69748731
Nice Mio

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>>69749614
Now that I'm outta Clover Jail, I can bump during ded hours.

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>>69752956
Conventional entertainment talents are my weakness(sing/dance)

Chuubas tend to stand out to me more if they're skilled singers or dancers or even both. Or if they play games similar to my own catalog.

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Who likes to sing?

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>>69755449
Dizzy likes to sing, but she can't... great SOVL karaoke

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I remember going full autism in the old days but lets do it again for shits and giggles. What we doing for BOATS!?

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>>69757105
Would be mostly things like picrel for /uuu/ since we don't do much in the way of international travel, naval or otherwise. Mostly just small vessels for shoreline or river travel.

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>>69757105
Ever since anon brought up pykrete boats my brain has been going wild with ideas for Deadbeat ships... I think I'll make schematics again.
I've got this long, slender, ice stalagmite-inspired ship in mind, with a pointy end and an iceberg-colored hull in mind.

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>>69757562
that actually sounds fucking cool

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>>69761143
Yeah, literally.

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>>69757372
I think canoes made from fallen palm trees would be more practical. Unless the leaf is boat-sized and as rigid as an inflatable weight will deform the leaf and break water tension.

Baker chan has an inflateable lifeboat. It a dingy with some supplies just in case the airship sinks.

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>>69757372
Comfy cruise through the mangrove village on the leaf gondola.

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>>69763026
/uuu/ can grow very large leaves. These canoes would be anywhere from car size to bus size, and would be about as rigid as tough rubber. Susceptible to punctures, but great at keeping itself together through blunt forces.

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>>69764142
I was also thinking the leaves can have air-pockets in them that help them stay bouyant if they are thick as cactus leaves.

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>>69764802
Oh true, kind of how some seaweed has those little air bladders. Passenger vessels would displace enough water on their own, but maybe some cargo leaf boats would have these.

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>>69766591
I'd like to imagine living boat plants for cargo ships.

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>>69768211
Now that's a neat idea... Probably not for mainland saplings since they're not fond of traveling outside the forests, but the Seisianthropoi might be into it.
holy crap picrel is both neat and cursed. ai is so weird

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>>69769929
Did you read about my palmtree sapling idea earlier?

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>>69772152
I didn't, I just tuned into the thread a couple of hours ago. I scrolled up and skimmed but couldn't find it, you got a link?

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>>69772477
No. But the idea is a treant Sapling that grows into a palm tree boat. He can't move around much but he can adjust his leaves like like sails. His body grows into a boat to transport Saplings around the waters.

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I gotta workshop it a lot more, but I had to make a quick mockup. The materials are pretty bad but I like this inverted bow hull shape. Still have no idea what kind of weapons I'll put on it though. Rows of gunports along those long sides would look pretty good, but something a bit more esoteric and magic could be nice too.
Mysterious hooded figure for scale.
>>69769929
big cool boat love! That looks like a living floating city pretty much, a true hive-ship.

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>>69772477
nta but probably this >>69763026

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>>69772969
>>69773321
Big boat/living/hive-ship thing is an amazing idea. Let's me integrate things I was bummed about leaving behind from when I was writing up some stuff for space-era /uuu/ in the old world. Maybe just a bit less tyranid-esque this time since we're trying to share this planet.

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watery bump

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>>69774353
Would they look a lot like the pic you posted? Or they'd have more oceanic influence, like the seaplings.

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Boat bump

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Space bread dog love.

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>>69780712
NASA just landed on the moon so today is a good day to celebrate space bread dog, pan pan

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>>69782034
Oh shit, pan pan. Hmm if the planet is turning the other way, so would Viti's moon.

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lunar bump

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>>69757105
/vnug/’s mostly inland this time so I guess it won’t be having many fancy big boats. It does rely alot on its rivers so I imagine /vnug/ boats will be riverboats so maybe something like longships?
I also thought more about /vnug/ military at work but the closest parallel’s a bit troubling to LARP as

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>>69784309
Luna's boobs are just big enough I want to squeeze them like Bae's.

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>>69777726
we defo need /uuu/ to be under the sea too, considering that fauna's the god of all nature.

ps would magic make wood take on properties of metal if enchanted right? would be pretty cool to have wooden swords and it functions as well as a metal one.

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Vspo's a bit too far inland, so not much there. They have contributed however to outfitting some vessels for self defense.

Wawa's have ships made with phoenix ore, which emanates water-repulsing heat which may burn non-natives.

Inf have their vessels powered by chronal magic, while being made with conventional 19/20th century materials for vessels. They're all shaped like the tips of a clock hand though.

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>>69784269
Which guerilla "freedom fighters" are you alluding to lol.

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>>69789968
>/uuu/ to be under the sea too
Have been thinking about that

>would magic make wood take on properties of metal if enchanted right
Technically yes, but we don't really do "enchantments" in /uuu/. Most of our "magic" is just related to manipulating nature into growing what we need by manipulating biological structures rather than lasting magical effects.

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>>69794562
Would it make sense if /uuu/ spec bio and nature manipulation allows some plants to grow into something that acts like metal if not straight up being metal?

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>>69795229
Wood is pretty hype as is desu. If we didn't have metal we might be making modern airplanes and ships with it still, some species have really good properties. I think the biggest airplane built to this day was made of wood.

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>>69795229
With enough specbio, Im sure it would be possible, but I'd prefer for /uuu/ to have foils, and I think this is a big one.
I also really like that the lack of widespread metals and metallurgy would make what is essentially a very insular nation be forced to trade with other nations. This was interesting to write with /who/ in the old world even though their rep was sometimes... not always willing to concede with our cultural requests...

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>>69797310
Understandable! We can trade if you want!

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>>69797237
Right, it was the Spruce Goose, it held the record until 2019, and its airframe is all made of wood.

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>>69793776
i was thinking vietnamese with all their tunneling expertise

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>>69797954
>when you're walking in the misty forest and the trees start speaking Palkyrie

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>>69797954
No but speaking of tunneling TIL Cappadocia has some real amazing underground cities that lasted until the last century! The largest one could hold up to 20,000 people so that’s pretty neat! It also goes as deep as 280 ft and probably could’ve gone deeper if not for the water table

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>>69800096
Damn, did they have so many levels? That's impressive engineering for how old that is. I think I like higher ceilings personally though lol.

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>>69801932
https://bigthink.com/strange-maps/derinkuyu-underground-city/
18 stories apparently! It probably helps that the rock’s apparently pretty soft

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For metal in trees is possible. Look at ironwood. A heavy wood that's thought to be made of steel.

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>>69802274
Sheesh, no kidding. I guess it has to be in a sweet spot, cuz if the stone is too soft caveins probably become a problem.

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>>69802274
>The people from the region used wells going through the city for thousands of years without knowing what the wells were going through.
Huh, that's really cool.

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>>69804886
On the contrary I'd rather dig soft stone than brittle stone. When hard brittle stone cracks, it shatters.

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>>69806353
Yeah, that's what I mean by sweet spot, the goldilocks zone. Too hard and it'll be too brittle (and harder to dig). Too soft and well any tunnel will just collapse on top of you.

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Live.

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I stayed up too late again. At least the board slowed down.

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>>69773321
Alright, I think I like that look for the ice a lot more. Will tinker with it more but for now I'm more bothered by the bridge, gonna try to redesign that.
I think the main weapons might be some sort of scythe-like magic ballista on the bridge.

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>>69810685
This drama coaster has been a disaster for threads like ours

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>>69812598
Eh, at least it gave us some cool OC.

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Good night bump

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>>69813401
And lore.
But still...

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>>69818079
MiComet daughter...

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>>69819559
Wtf I love following the law now.

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>>69821726
What I'd love even more is for this thread not to die.

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Breaking the law bump.

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I heard there were unchecked Saplings here

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>>69824849
YAB

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Did someone say saplings?

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>>69824849
>>69825387
Perhaps after butchering the squirrels we han hang their tails as trophies.

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>>69826082
Squirrelcism is alive and well...

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>>69750161
I mean

Making a map for a retrograde spin planet is not fundamentally more difficult

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>>69751931
Climate != biome, and climate zones themselves are on a spectrum of extremity, i think most people missed these two facts last time.

besided, spec bio will always be able to give you a forest

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>>69826773
Fun fact, the Earth is a retrograde spin planet if you arbitrarily decide the south pole is "up".

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>>69827056
.... not really, since then everything else in the solar system would also be spinning in that direction

normal and retrograde is defined by the surrounding environment, so just flipping the idea of what is considered "up" would just mean that that is the normal

For the Sol system, the only retrograde planet would be Venus then.

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>>69827212
Oh, sure. Under that definition I've been assuming Viti has the same spinning direction as the rest of the solar system desu, though I don't know the implications if it wasn't.

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which nation would win a space race if they had 1950-60s tech?

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>>69826364
Pretty sure risuners just ceased to exist. Nobody ever talks about risu anymore.

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>>69829731
Does she even stream anymore?

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>>69829217
Well, the URSS got up there first, so probably whoever is the most communist kek. Maybe one of the hiveminds? Or Momos.

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>>69830451
Really? Wouldn't it be the nation that has the most technological progress and the strongest industry?

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>>69831833
I say inf.
If they werent so gun-focused, I say Vspo has a shout.

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>>69831833
Well, the prompt says they have 1950s tech, so I was assuming the tech level is equal for all, otherwise I think /awat/ and /inf/ are probably the threads with the best combination of technology lore and size/activity.
If technology is equal, it's really just a matter of getting all the population into motion towards working on this, so for that kind of thing some sort of hivemind would be effective.

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wait it's been a while since I've been here...
what the hell is /viti/?
is it like a redux version?

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>>69835619
Welcome, to the multiverse!

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>>69835619
It's our little sequel, enjoy your stay.

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>>69835679
>>69835743
are there any resources on what planets/moons are in the solar system?

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>>69836536
At the moment we've only talked about Viti. You can assume there's a Sun-like star and it has a Moon-like satellite, but beyond that it's undefined. Maybe the other planets can be themed around old Gods, like the IRL ones are.

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>>69836536
It's a flat world with nothing above and nothing below

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>>69837633
hexagonanon will return, I believe

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Give me a drink, bartender!

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>>69838895
Tea or coffee?

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>>69795229
speaking of weird specbio I've always been partial to hydrocarbon-only plastic trees. Acrylic acid could be made by organisms after all.
>>69795229
If that's the case it'd be more magic making it as strong though. Some things do have to be metal based for them to have the properties of metal.

For example, metals are malleable/ductile bc of their chemical structure, which biomolecules can't replicate due to their structure.

Frankly I think going the 'trees can grow bits made out of metal' would be the easiest way to explain it.

I could see stuff like aztec obsidian clubs and such be used though, and blessed by our lord and saviour goddess fauna.
>>69797237
I don't think the engines could be made of metal... wood can't really withstand high temps that engines use, and rocks are too brittle.

I would like /uuu/ to have a biopunk feel to it as I like the mix.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leviathan_(Westerfeld_novel)
>>69797310
what're foils?

it'd be funny if /uuu/ is ruled by the ppl of the seas bc they actually have to interact with other ppl, and as a result use a lot more tech. Think a coast vs interior thing.

Speaking of spec evo tho, it'd be really fun to have stuff like giant sloths digging hobbit holes for ppl to live in, bc I don't think everyone would like to live in trees lol. Those fuckers actually burrowed through solid rock in the Amazonian rainforest.

Also dinosaurs. bc they're cool.

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>>69839848
>I don't think the engines could be made of metal... wood can't really withstand high temps that engines use, and rocks are too brittle.
Nah, you can make them with clay though! Or rather, ceramic.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ceramic_engine

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>>69839848
to add to the spec evo, endothermic insects with haemocyanin and calcium carbonate based skeleton would be very cool (bugs aren't blue/green when you kill them for a reason, whereas that's why crabs/horseshoe crabs have blue blood).

Other stuff like land corals that can eat you could be cool too, would add to the wildness of the rainforest and the such.

>>69840029
ooh that's interesting thanks anon! Ceramic is surprisingly used for a lot of projects like these huh.

It'd be really cool if we have treants/other organisms modified to form giant ships/planes and run by ceramic engines and pipes.

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>>69839848
>foils
As in drawbacks that can be used to contrast and highlight other characteristics.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foil_(narrative)

>biopunk in /uuu/
Hard pass. We already have a chunk of lore with /uuu/ being primarily primitive and nature based both culturally and technologically. This is particularly important considering what Mumei already represents within the same generation as Fauna.

>giant sloth holes
Very possible. I haven't written anything about maybe underground or cave-based saplings, but there's certainly room for it. Would probably exist farther in-land closer to the mountains near /vnug/.
Would be kind of funny if the saplings there just kept digging and didn't realize they were underneath /vnug/ lands. Makes me wonder how territorial the /vnug/ bros are now, lol.
Also, saplings that undergo saplification but grow more fungal like adaptations is something that has been on my mind for a while.

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>>69840946
>drawbacks
Ah ic that makes sense.

>Hard pass. We already have a chunk of lore with /uuu/ being primarily primitive and nature based both culturally and technologically.
It's just that I want to incorporate how Fauna plays her games (making Minecraft farms, caring more about efficiency), and having a subsection/different nation that emphasises these characteristics would be cool too, which is why I want it to be biopunk. Sea/island saplings being more technologically advanced due to interactions with other peoples would be a good compromise. Also coral/seaweed/coralline red algae saplings sound very cool.

>Very possible. I haven't written anything about maybe underground or cave-based saplings, but there's certainly room for it. Would probably exist farther in-land closer to the mountains near /vnug/.
Fungal saplings would be very cool, and saplings adapting to the environment's local fauna is an interesting concept. No animal based saplings right?

But Fauna did say that she likes animals more than plants lol

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>>69841547
Fun fact, genetically and metabolically fungus are closer to animals than plants

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>>69841547
No biopunk, sorry dude. Simple machines etc make sense, but engines and their ilk are out. Could certainly achieve similar things with biological "engines" (lungs or hearts for pumps, joint and muscles for leverage etc), but these things would have to be forcefully grown by Matres, and while technically possible, are inherently "unnatural" to the normal course of the growth of the forests. They would only be done if there was a great need.
In the last world I was discussing with some anons how /uuu/ would make a lighthouse using only animals or plants. Was fun stuff.

>No animal based saplings right?
We for sure have animal saplings. Saplification can take many different forms, though plant ones are more common, animal mutations are far from unheard of. We've had everything from crab people (even though I hate the look, some anons here convinced me to put them in) to centaurs.

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>>69831833
well, it wasnt in the real world, so...

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>>69842659
>are inherently "unnatural" to the normal course of the growth of the forests.
You know what you need? You need a Sapling version of Belisarius Cawl to bring the kino fleshmachines into existence by stretching the definitions of your doctrines to the extreme

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Today's menu is donuts. I wish I could have a donut.

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>>69829731
You wish

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>>69842659
>No biopunk
Could it just be another group that's also affiliated with Fauna then? The jokes on tree huggers also being technologically advanced would be fun.

>We for sure have animal saplings.

Crab people and centaurs are great indeed, and I just hope we get arachnes in too. I just don't want cat and dog girls lol.
>>69843978
>You know what you need? You need a Sapling version of Belisarius Cawl to bring the kino fleshmachines into existence by stretching the definitions of your doctrines to the extreme
Oh, we defo need that in /uuu/, it'd fit in so well.

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>>69842659
>crab people (even though I hate the look, some anons here convinced me to put them in)
Gomen gomen, may your crabgirls be cute and fruitful

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>>69846103
>it'd fit in so well.
My man

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>>69840946
>Makes me wonder how territorial the /vnug/ bros are now, lol.
I know it sounds weird given that I wrote a story about poachers getting demolished but we don’t mind sharing! If anything given the surface environment, those underground tunnels might actually come in handy for travelling across the border!

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>>69677130

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What is the general tech level?

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>>69855606
Me thinks pre-industrial era, but magic allows variable tech.

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>>69855606
Just listen to your heart.

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>The bread dog rolls around in butter getting ready for the evening bake.

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>>69855606
Stone age

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>>69859036
Man cooking would be so easy if food just cooked itself.

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I had an idea about a Sapling captain and her talking palm tree boat partner. He was able to maintain his ability to speak after metamorphing into a boat. Boat is like a big fat jolly fellow and the captain is stern and serious.

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>>69859416
Hmm what thread would be stone age tech? Maybe if Meat (the vtuber) had a general.

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>>69842659
How bout magitech then? Somewhere similar to Warcraft Night Elves?

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>>69866875
I'm trying to magitech magic arbalests into existence for /morig/, with mostly cold-powered magic it's kinda tricky. No wonder most wizards go for fireballs, fire is very versatile to do stuff with.

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>>69868984
Ice has very useful properties in crowd control. Enemies chilled with a cold blast immediately stop in their tracks to warm up. Ice can freeze water to make bridges. Cold steel can get wet via condensation which makes gunpowder too wet to use. Ice has a lot of utility. If you want pure destruction you would go with fire obviously. Fire's a stable weapon of war with its ability to burn and spread quickly for how easy it is to make.

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Look guys, I really do appreciate some of the feedback and comments, but I really don't think there's a place for this biopunk/40k/magic machines civ thing in the current /uuu/.
There's already some pretty well established lore for how /uuu/ works and the kind of dynamics it has with technology and its culture.
It would be one thing if someone wrote a story about a rogue sapling or maybe a coven of stray Matres trying something against their teachings and instincts, etc, but this talk about shoving new tech into the lore is just up-ending a lot of things.

>Could it just be another group that's also affiliated with Fauna then?
Honestly? /#/ doesn't have a rep or place in on the map yet and might would be a great place to try this sort of thing. They're generally considered "stealth /uuu/" and this lean into "machine efficiency" I think would fit well there.

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>>69870548
Hello Sapling. Have you read about leaf boats yet? Also do you like jelly donuts?

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>>69870548
>/#/ doesn't have a rep or place in on the map yet and might would be a great place to try this sort of thing. They're generally considered "stealth /uuu/" and this lean into "machine efficiency" I think would fit well there.
That would be hilarious. You're got the "At peace with nature" /uuu/ saplings on one side of the world and on the other there's a bio-military-industrial complex of numbersaplings optimizing their mastery of nature for maximized output.

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>>69870149
>Making bridges
Ohh fun thought... Hmm, what if there was a brand of cryomancers who froze water in front of them to skate on it or something like that? Could be fun.

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>>69871057
>on one side of the world and on the other
Except let's make them neighbours :D

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>>69870861
>leaf boats
Yeah, I was talking about them in the thread the last couple of days. I liked the anon that mentioned having air bladders in some of them.

>jelly donuts
Yes, but we prefer ice cream sammies

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>>69871514
I'm out of vegan milk for sammies right now. And spring berries are coming into season soon. So we're making jelly donuts with what we have left before going out to preserve more berries. We also have other donuts.

Also what's your thoughts about palm treants being talking boats?

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Sad sapling noises bump.

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>>69871057
So # is just a whole nation of Poison Ivys?

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>>69876941
There's a couple others with a massive presence, I'd expect some nousagi stuff too in particular.

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>IER CHUP DOWN MY FARKIN' TREES ON MUH SIDE OF MAH FOREST AN' DERE'S NUFFIN YA TREE HUGGINS CAN DU 'BOUT IT!

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>>69872218
We could take some jelly donuts. Not all saplings are vegan, so even if you have some other sweets, we could enjoy them, just maybe not in bulk orders.

>treants as boats
Elder saplings like treants are generally Protectors or Guides for the forests, not machines. Some may decided to help out depending on the situation and who called for them, but most boats would just be boats.

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>>69877102
Hmm, now that I think about it there could be fun stuff with the various schisms the thread has had, with EN numbers and JP numbers.

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ᚺᚱᛖᛁᚾᚾ

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>>69868984
Just borrow from the Lin Kuei lol

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when is someone gonna make countryballs?

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>>69882402
the nice thing is that for half of them you can just use the already circular fat fuck mascot.

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ᛞᛅᚢᚦᚢ ᛁᚲᚲᛁ

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>>69886216
soulful geocitiescore page

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WE GOT NEW CHUUBAS

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>>69887111
I assume >>69886216?

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>>69887359
oh, those are the new vnuggets?

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>>69887496
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiUhBmqrUH4
They are!

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>>69887573
here's the spicy tarot lore

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>>69889350
Vt Towerbro?

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>>69891057
Was that soundpost a VT tower original? I just grabbed it from the depths of my folder kek, not sure where I got it.

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>>69892012
I dunno, just reminded me of vt tower, where Watamelons are pests.

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>>69893556
pests? No, watamelons are blessed creatures surely

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>>69868984
Think of cold as the absence of energy, and you might find some new ways to do things.

I do not think cold magic works that well as a purely destructive element, but it does work very well as a nullifying or denying element.

Some thematic ideas easily associated with cold are Sharpness, Numbness, Preservation, Death, Refreshment, Peace, Sleep, Silence, Smothering, Hiding, Darkness, Purity, Wetness, Clarity, Stillness, and Decay. Any magic referencing these ideas or having to do with these concepts would be at least on a thematic if not mechanical level fitting for cold magic.

From a mechanical standpoint, if you want to look for destructiveness, you could consider utilizing the fact of how electrical conductivity works with the cold, and also the fact that it is ice crystals that generate the static electricity of lightning clouds (iirc). Cold and Electricity / Magnetism go hand in hand mechanically speaking.

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>>69894639
And deadly ones apparently, only the toughest of pest exterminators like the mercenary SSRB can hope to deal with em.

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>>69895017
Yeah, I should think more about "non-attack" spells, there's a lot to do there. I might be a bit influenced by games where the extent of cold magic is throwing ice chunks at bad guys.
Using the relation between ice crystals and static electricity is a fun thought, maybe that can be a path to some kind of local lightning storm ritual.
Though the proper electric magic would be reserved for if I write about joltjunkies in /pcg/

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>>69895017
>>69895848
Of course, the holy grail of industry, the heat engine, ought to be trivial with cold magic.

Since the work done by a heat engine is equivalent to the difference between the heat absorbed from the hot reservoir and the heat discharged into the cold reservoir, at least on paper one could make a setup where the hot reservoir is room temperature and the cold reservoir is some very cold temperature. Sort of like a heat engine in reverse, but not in the same way that a refrigerator works.
Or would calling it a refrigerator in reverse be more accurate?

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>>69870548
>>69871057
Yeah we can put /#/ on the continent right across /uuu/ that is founded by the saplings who discovered Fauna's proclivity for efficiency, while the orthodox /uuu/ saplings think that its heresy.

Whale subs +1 here we goooo

>>69877102
I think it could be a mix of multiple groups but the tech side would be more biopunk due to the saplings. They'd still treat their biomechanical machines well but it'd be animal based instead of plant based.

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You can do literally everything

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>>69896301
Yeah, one of my ideas for a larger weapon was a ballista driven by a piston which is basically going through the cycle you describe. It'd have big radiators-like things, but instead of trying to get rid of heat, it would be used to absorb heat from the atmosphere to dump it into the piston (I guess they'd be called heatsinks?) after the working fluid has been cooled to cryogenic temps by the cryomancy. Using that it can draw springs stronger than what would be feasible with manpower alone.
Also it'd look pretty cool, with each cycle blasting off a bunch of mist due to the heatsink suddenly getting supercooled.

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>>69897330
Thanks geega, appreciate the vote of confidence.

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>>69897365
Speaking of em VShojos, where do yall think they'd be?

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>>69897650
I think they'd be ideal candidates to be a major power in the Eastern continent, since a few of their people are suited to warm climates, and they always had that "overseas org" energy with regard to the rest of vtubing.

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>>69677207
https://rentry.org/morig-zoology-story#drained-of-colour
I wrote about a guy looking at some snow!

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>>69898136
Defo THE western corpo.

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>>69900547
/meat/ burgers be like
Kek

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>>69900547
sex is everything

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Good morning. Today's menu is soups with bread rolls.

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>>69901959
Cream of mushroom I hope?

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>>69896434
I doubt they care, but out of courtesy you should go to /#/ and let them know you're going to rep them here

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>>69902163
We have cream of mushroom, cream of carrot, French onion soup, potato porridge, egg drop soup, and tomato soup.

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>>69902416
Wonderful

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>>69904296
ATTENTION: The group draw for /vt/ League 6 will be starting in half an hour! Be sure to come check it out to see who our 3 group stage opponents will be: https://isthisliv.com/vtleague
The format's a bit convoluted this time around, but instead of 4 teams to a group round-robin style, there are 6 teams in each group, split up into 2 subgroups. Everyone then plays the 3 teams in the other subgroup. The best 2 teams in each group are guaranteed to advance along with the best 2 third place teams overall.
Competition's fierce, so make sure to come cheer the team on! The league proper begins Friday March 1st at the same time as the draw, so keep a look out for links around that time.

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>>69904499
Now that I have gave birth to an actual player, I'll watch!

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>>69904577
Wat???

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>>69904499
Logobro, you may wanna touch this up a bit, a chunk of land is outside the circle...

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>>69905561
They are outside the jurisdiction of the UN. theyre anarchist bumfucklands

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>>69905621
Found the nijilands

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>>69905560
Some threads back, there has been a change in lineup.
Watch for a Fire Emblem character that has been recolored to Sora colors. That was my brainchild.
"Vtwbg the general: the game!" Is the name

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>vt and uuu dont have to go against each other
THANK FAUNA

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>>69907178
Who we up against? Pls tell me not morig

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>>69908035
were up against /jidf/, /lia/ and yup, /morig/

[Anonymous No.]

>>69908090
Aw fuck.
>jidf: has Roca
>lia
>morig

Fuck...

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Were gonna kick ass bros. I can feel it

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>>69907178
Do Saplings like soup?

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If I'd known Divegrass was today I'd bring nachos and corndogs instead. I'll put on some popcorn.

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>>69912374
Today was just the draw to figure out who the teams are playing, the matches start next week.

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>>69912032
Yeah, veggie stock rocks

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>>69912489
>Baker-chan teaches Saplings the art of soup making.
Soup making is more than just throwing things in a pot and boiling it. Its about finding the right tastes in ingredients that you want in the broth and about which ingredients taste better when softened. Its also knowing which rocks change the acidity of your cooking dish. For example akaline based water made with lime rocks melts the wax in corn to make hominy, which is the superior corn.

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>>69913750
Wait, cooking with rocks is real? I'm sorry, chinamen, I judged you too harshly.

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>>69915765
Yeah, it is likely that the first "soups" were created by heating stones in a fire and then dropping them into a leather bag with water and spices and meat/veggies in it

source: i read this in a finnish scientific journal roughly 14 years ago

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>>69915765
Fun fact: Rock salt is cooking with rocks.

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>>69918856

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>>69918856
damn, you aint wrong

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>>69677207
History section and the Tl;dr summary of the extremely meta idea for /nasfaqg/

https://rentry.org/MerchantExpedition

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>>69921075
>Yuvi Haggaja (/juvi ʌggʌʌʒʌ/)
oy vey, deliciously jew-sounding

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>>69921709
it is an evolution of language on Kat Nol, with the "H" becoming a letter that is sometimes unpronounced at the start of words. It is pronounced "Yuvi Aggaija"

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>>69921075
>rapid industrialization coupled with ever escalating economic and military competition between different powers led to over-exploitation of natural resources both mundane and magical.
Ecofascismbros? Where's the "I told you so"?
Wait, a surprise story in the story?
>Whispers echoed in the back of his mind and incomprehensible colors twisted around him in a mad dance as he fell through the space between nowhere and everywhere
>January 2022
WHAET, I've never read this, this is so cool. Draft you kept in your pocket this whole time? Or I just missed it? I love that depiction of the Underworld, very cinematic, and also of the gate-traveling.
>They get a portal cat
>Immediately cute it open
Man Vitubia 1.6k people earned their fate.
>Vitubic body horror
That's a must have. You're not really saving the world if you're not dooming a bunch of magic people to a horribly painful death doing it.
I enjoyed the description of the first settlers being amazed Viti is as nice as it is, really made me feel their relief.
>Massive protests erupted in each but one of the participant nations, and within a few months the protests escalated into open popular revolts.
That makes it sound like you know which nation that was, do you? Or is that for flavor?

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>>69921888
Checked, Kat Nol drew from Hebrew in the first place, right?

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I need a menu for Divegrass events. Anyone want to help?

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>>69923384
Like things to eat during the matches? Are you gonna theme it to each team?

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>>69923384
The first match is vs /morig/, so get some natto on there.

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>>69922942
Yeah, thats how conlang anon made it

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>>69923538
I'm looking for general stadium food. I know my Texas gorillaball stadium food which is nachos texmex trash. I'm not sure how stadium food is overseas.

>>69923605
As long as the food is easy to prepare and serve quickly I'm open to it.

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>>69902405
Yeah I just asked, let's see if they respond.

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>>69924770
From what I know of /#/, they'd laugh you out of the thread, but not stop you. Unless it's funnier to do so. Did I get it right?

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>>69922883
The story is actually a nasfaqg loreposting original. We had a whole loreposting arc, multiple ones, way before vtwbg came along. major reason why i hopped onto this project so enthusiastically.

>Vitubia 1.6k people earned their fate
they were a very corrupt people. All schizos and selfish bastard going after their own immediate benefit.

>Which nations
I have a very specific list, although i am unsure if i should disclose which nations exactly. 2 of the nations are explicitly stated via links.

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>>69925864
He actually got quite a few interesting (You)s in there

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>>69926866
Hey, he did actually, that's fun. Looks like the consensus has nousagi and saplings at the forefront with a bit of SNO.

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>>69926220
>they were a very corrupt people. All schizos and selfish bastard going after their own immediate benefit.
Makes sense... Did that cause friction with the natives after they got through the portal? Or were the colonists among the more conciliatory people?

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>>69927596
I have not yet thought about that desu

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>>69927144
>green rabbits
thats gonna be something

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>>69927639
Yeah, just probing a bit, might help if some people wrote a bit more lore about the countries near the portal (me).

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How does everyone feel about pineapple on pizza?

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>>69927732
We could fifure something out

I am ultimately after cordial relationships, but some tenstion could be cool


I am most interested in how I could develop a relationship with /uuu/ since /uuu/ and the Nejalites may have surprisingly lot in common regarding their aims

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>>69927596
that being said, the ones who made it through the portal were the best of the best. The least schizo and also, especially after livign in Viti for a few decades, the ones who were the most willing to move on from the past and embrace the new future

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>>69927650
What's SNO?

>>69927144
Considering that we have a lot of different types of saplings I think we'd just do the same, just have the nousagis be more human.

I like the feel of multiple groups working together would be a cool one, with saplings, shrimps, hoomans, and other groups (at most 12, since I'm not going to try remembering every liver's fan names and 12 is a kino number) and play around with the polyglot nature of the nation.

The guys from /#/ are fine with this, and one of them suggested a Venetian trader city which sounds cool asf. A 'Venice' that successfully industrialised and is conquering their way through the continent in the east would be fun.

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>>69928335
SNO - Shark, Nature, Owl. The non-schizo version is SNOT with T as Time, but /#/ being what it is, kek.

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>>69928483
oh ic
I don't see a lot of kronies in /#/, but I do feel they should be represented bc I like the autistic fucker.

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>>69928027
Given their at least initially adverse relationship to the Viti brands of magic, I could see some tension with Morijigoku Deadbeats, since they're deeply and intrinsically tied to the magic of the world. But the Nejalite Deadbeats would be able to smoothen those rough spots over time. Especially if they visit the Onyx mountains, the supernatural elements there would probably awe-strike Vitubian deadbeats.

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>>69929435
>>69929435
>>69929435
fresh bread