/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

Hololive...

Kawaii...

Phase...

Vshojo...

I don't care who, for the love of God, someone please save her

[Anonymous No.]

She tied herself to the mast of the sinking yatch. She doesn't want to be saved

[Anonymous No.]

nah she's confirmed to be a corpo bootlicker
I hope she stays in nijisanji forever

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>>69762920
>>69763011
Management tied her. That's exactly WHY she needs to be saved, and who she needs to be saved FROM.

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>>69762602
Hololive is just as bad as niji, Kawaii is extremely sketchy and Phase is Phase.
Vshojo is the only option.

[Anonymous No.]

Vivi is a strong girl. A pity that she chose to be stupid about this. Hopefully her gamble pays off and the incoming yabs for Niji are all weak rrats. lol

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>>69762602
Fuck off with this "save her please" faggot, she's clearly like it there. let her rot there

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>>69763207
I can't speak about Kawaii, she's not really menhera enough for Sakana and I don't think she has the numbers/connections for VShojo.
You saying Holo is as bad as Niji though makes you retarded or a grifter. They actually have managers for starters

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After the shit show of their debut though I don't know why she would show loyalty besides professionalism. Sigh, NijiEN is such a disappointment.

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>>69763552
>You saying Holo is as bad as Niji though makes you retarded or a grifter.
They're both the exact same kind of company. All you're doing is arguing about minor details that don't matter.
In both of them you will be discriminated against for not being Japanese and you will always be beneath management.
>They actually have managers for starters
Holo managers are still awful. They might not ALWAYS take over a day to respond but they will still reject projects after they've been paid for and ready to release and shit on the talent's faces in general for literally no reason.

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>>69762602
No.

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I don't even know who she is.

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>>69763207
>Vshojo is the only option
You mean the ultra exclusive company who only gives a fuck about you if you have enough clout and that also won't have you back when the woke mob is after you?

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>>69762602
Anyone?

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>>69762920
ONE TIME FOR MY NIJISISTERS
ONE TIME FOR MY NIJIHOES

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>>69764687
NDF

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>>69764981
fuck off Riifu, you still need to learn how to read

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>>69765054
where's the niji defense? Saying holo is garbage isn't a defense of niji. If your favorite corpo is japanese, it's awful and bad for vtubers.

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>>69762602
Nah fuck her, she chose to go there. I'm sure she had friends who told her it was a bad idea and she ignored them. If she was that good she could have waited for something better to show up.

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>>69762602
>corporate bootlicker
Nah :)

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>>69762602
She made her choice

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>>69762602
Her oshi Pomu and one of her favourites Selen clearly showed how her much of a shithole Nijisanji is. But Vivi prefers to suck on Rikus cock instead, so let her rot in that hellhole along with the others.

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>>69763207
>Hololive is just as bad as niji
>Vshojo is the only option
You really should stop talking shit to shill your whores Anon

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>>69763207
>Vshojo is the only option.
No FGC tubers, sorry. We are already dangerously close to fleshies like Koe and Nagzz becoming + via the zen and haruka connections, any more ties to them and its all over. Welshman is bad enough I dont want three of him.

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>>69765409
obsessed chimp

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>>69763207
Nah she aint qualified

[Anonymous No.]

Nah she's rotten too.

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>>69762602
No! She's a corporate bootlicker (I just learned this word last week) of the worst kind.

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>>69763552
I hear she hates Phase Connect.

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>>69764687
A company that specializes in talent management actually having managers is a minor detail that doesn't matter? What details do you think matter? Also, what Holo projects are you even talking about?

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>>69766616
Hololive is just like Nijisanji in that it's a Japanese company that actually specializes in exploiting it's workers.
>What details do you think matter?
Details don't matter. Both of the companies are the same generally. Arguing about how hololive is a bit better because managers are 1% better and the talents get 5% better cut than niji doesn't mean shit when they're both still extremely bad.
>what Holo projects are you even talking about?
Several talents have cried on stream because of cancelled projects. Gura had an entire cover song video thrown into the bin for absolutely no reason. Let's also not forget about why Coco quit.

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>>69765363
>implying those were her actual oshis
>implying she didn't say that to bandwagon to the biggest Nijis

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>>69762602
I am sorry anon…Vivi made her choice…

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>>69765664
not to forget kson is almost most times flesh streaming

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>>69766863
Doesn't change my conclusion, let her rot in that hellhole.

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>>69766849
My man, you can't just go "details don't matter" when you're arguing two things are the same. That's not how that works. Also, there's a clear difference between the company cancelling things they paid for and cancelling things the talent paid for. Your entire argument relies on this false equivalency.

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>>69766849
holy nijicope

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>>69763240
It's wild. Anyone can actively see Scarle is the only talent not bleeding subs just for staying out of it and remaining neutral, whilst the talents most linked to the drama lose the most.

Vivi effectively has an out by virtue of her being a Selen and Pomu fan before joining Niji, so she could just stay out of the drama and everyone would give her a free pass and benefit of the doubt. Still, she involves herself and ruins her only excuse, deciding that falling in line with all the people bleeding subs is better than just remaining neutral like the one girl who's reputation is still in tact.

Is having brain damage a prerequisite to getting into Nijisanji...?

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>>69767276
>That's not how that works.
That's exactly how it works. Holo and niji are the same kind of company in general. The tiny ass details about how managers respond a little bit faster and talents get a 5% better cut are irrelevant when at the end of the day they don't own their IP and have zero control over what they are allowed to do.
>Also, there's a clear difference between the company cancelling things they paid for and cancelling things the talent paid for.
Are you acting like the company paid for the holos personal projects that the company later cancelled? You know they don't do that. All of that money came from the talents and the management shit all over their projects.
>Your entire argument relies on this false equivalency.
I don't think you know what that term means.

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>>69766070
she's hung out with mavia irl a number of times before mavia moved to new york for school and mavia is practically pippa's favorite indie.

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>>69762602
Fuck that, let her drown. Bitch deserves it.
>>69762920
>>69763011
She's chinese, so it's not surprising at all.

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>>69766863
She had their merch long before auditioning. The only two Niji ENs she had plushies of.

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>>69763577
This is the part I dont get. No wave song. Cobbled together something sung by someone else instead, never before done. Wasn't given a group name/logo for for her wave, came up with TTT on their own. Got basically zero predebut exposure. Why would you show Any support for the company that values you even less than the tools that came before you?

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>>69763207
She is too small and doesn't have somebody who could vouch for her in vshojo.
Not /in/
for now

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>>69763207
>Hololive is just as bad as niji
Evidently not if Niji's turnover rate is several times higher than Holo's

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>>69763053
She's an adult anon, she can make her own decisions, Riku is not holding her at gunpoint.

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>>69770130
Holo is pretty similar when you consider the ratio. One holo talent is worth like 5 of nijis if not more and again the point is about the kind of company it is. Talent's don't own their IP and management has all the power over their character and content.

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Idol volunteer

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>>69770128
At this point I question that.

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>>69762920
I don't care I want to save her anyways

[Anonymous No.]

>>69767057
fake and gay turistchama

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>>69762602
no

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>>69762602
She don't wanna be saved don't save her, she don't wanna be saved

[Anonymous No.]

Hololive...

Kawaii...

Phase...

Vshojo...

I don't care who, for the love of God, someone please save her

[Anonymous No.]

>>69769156
She had the excuse she was Hong Kong Chinese, not a CCP plant like Enna

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>>69762602

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>>69768433

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>>69762602
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKwsvHkvJU0

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>>69770247
Lol no

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>>69776951
Who in hololive owns their IP and character models?

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>>69777583
Yagoo.

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>>69777800
So they're like niji then where yachtman owns it all.

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>>69777822
Nah. Unlike niji yagoo treats their talents like actual human beings. Unlike Nijisanji

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>>69762602
>1 YEAR CONTRACT
1 YEAR CONTRACT
>1 YEAR CONTRACT
1 YEAR CONTRACT

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>>69777822
they have some similarities, but with a simple example of the play buttons it's pretty easy to make out which company is truly shit. Hololive isn't perfect (even more so early on) but compairing it to the current stage is niji is disingenuous and you know it.

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>>69762602
any friend of our Nyaru is a Phase friend in my eyes

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>>69762920
Dude it's a job not all of them have enough money to just leave.

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>>69763207
>Hololive is just as bad as niji

Yeah except they pay you 5x better, don't have bully cliques and management actually throws sponsors your way.

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>>69777891
They don't. Talents in holo can pay for projects that get randomly canned by management. It has even happened to Gura.

>>69778008
Holo is still a black corpo where the talents have no freedoms. The play button is something they only get if they suck management cock.
>compairing it to the current stage is niji is disingenuous and you know it.
The comparison isn't "is hololive as bad as nijisanji" but "is holololive the same kind of exploitative company as nijisanji". That's not disingenuous especially when the question in the OP includes two other groups that are vastly better than hololive.

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>>69778264
>the same kind of exploitative company

Holo talents are swimming in $$$. Look at the shit Advent is doing after just few months.

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>>69778131
>Yeah except they pay you 5x better
5x of 2% is still very little.
>don't have bully cliques
lol
They have the management cocksuckers and the outcasts who go against the grain.
>management actually throws sponsors your way
Only after making you waste a few thousands and most of your patience by cancelling your projects. The only difference is that in holo you get awarded for being a corpo dog and in niji you get nothing but in both cases not complying gets you ostracized and fired.

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>>69778264
>Holo is still a black corpo where the talents have no freedoms
No freedoms huh, You got proof of that? Mori just did a charity stream which hololive helped with. Does that mean management make literally every decision for them?
Got a source on that play button comment as well, any holo talking about not being able to get a play button?

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>>69778438
>Holo talents are swimming in $$$.
I know you still don't quite comprehend this but the numbers you see on playboard is not actually what they're receiving.

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>>69778557
well yeah, they obviously make way more from stuff like sponsorships and merch sales.
Why are you pretending to be arguing in good faith?

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>>69778532
I never said nobody got their play button. I said it's an incentive to make everyone nice and docile so that they accept the abuse from management. You know what they did to kson, rushia and mel.

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>>69778447
>gets you ostracized and fired

Literally never happened. Hololive vtubers only got fired after massive yabs.

Yes it's the same kind of retarded japanese corp autism but it's still many times better for the streamer. Also HoloEN had the garbage management period too even if it never got as bad as NijiEN. But they fixed it before things got really bad.

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>>69762602
She chose her side. Not worth saving anymore.

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>>69778736
>Literally never happened.
Coco, Rushia, Mel.

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>>69778557
SC are just a tiny part of their revenue. Going on expensive international vacations few months after joining or buying 4k $ PCs sure is black corp stuff sis.

[Anonymous No.]

This guy is either trolling hard, or completely deranged.

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>>69778853
>massive yab that ruined chinese market forever and they still sided with her over billion $ country
>gigantic yab that still keeps on giving to this day
>behind the scenes yab we don't know everything about

You are not helping your case.

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>>69777964
This.
I'll reserve judgement for October. If she leaves, she was just trying not get Selen'd by the clique.
If she stays she's a member of the clique

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>>69778675
>giving playbuttons make everyone nice and docile so that they accept the abuse from management
That is quite a leap in logic anon. I don't think you even believe that.
>Coco
Only one with any validity, she made a mistake (china's softskin unfortunately.) They responded correctly by pulling out of china for it. Even when they fucked up they took steps to try to make it better.

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>>69778885
>Going on expensive international vacations few months after joining
Why are you using a plural when literally only one person did this?
>buying 4k $ PCs
Not a big investment. Anyone with a normal job can afford one if they want one.

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>>69779139
Define normal job. Most people can't work corporate and just work for Walmart of fast food joints.

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>>69770247
>hololive is the same if you consider that hololive values their talents 5x as much
Damn okay, what an argument.

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>>69779041
>massive yab that ruined chinese market forever and they still sided with her over billion $ country
And then they stopped her from collabing with anyone, modded her antis, didn't let her manage her own channel and refused to stop the spammers. Clearly Cover was massively butthurt over losing their prized chinese market.
>gigantic yab that still keeps on giving to this day
None of the contents of the yab had anything to do with her firing. If you defend Cover then you must also believe that the talent's personal life is none of their business. If you're now arguing that Rushia deserved to be fired for what she did in her personal life you're saying that Cover is a black company and that they lied about their policy.
>behind the scenes yab we don't know everything about
So not a yab. She was just randomly fired for no apparent reason. We all know it's because she's connected to kson.

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>>69778447
I'm sure you have examples

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>>69779367
I didn't say they're valued more by the company. They just hire less so there's less people leaving even though the turnover rate is the same.

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>>69779367
His cope is that that talents are treated better so that they put up with more stuff from management.

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>>69778675
Yes, we all know how Mel was constantly butting heads with management and they decided to axe her for it.
Do you even listen to yourself?

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>>69763207
>Hololive is just as bad as niji
Imagine being this disconnected from reality.

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>>69779474
That's literally what's going on. How many more times do you need to witness someone breaking down live on stream cursing about management before you learn?

[Anonymous No.]

he was a retard but now he's just pretending

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>>69779523
Do YOU even listen to yourself? Mel is arguably the number one in giving shit to management with an entire public police report against them.

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>>69779566
Link some from the past 6 months then anon.

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>>69763207
>Hololive is just as bad as Niji
Not even remotely or else they'd have a similar turnover rate. The girls in Hololive seem to love it, and it's why some of them have been in the company for over 5 years. Only one girl in EN has graduated, despite having been around for over half a year longer than NijiEN

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>>69779137
>I don't think you even believe that.
I don't believe that the play buttons are that important to anyone so in that sense I don't believe that giving them out is to make the talents more accepting of abuse. The play buttons are just one "nice" thing of many that hololive talents are allowed because they don't cost the company anything. I still believe they they're given "nice" things so that they will handle the abuse better.
>Even when they fucked up they took steps to try to make it better.
They never did anything to make things better for her which is why she left.

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>>69779475
>the turnover rate is the same
Niji has graduated dozens of talents
Hololive has parted ways with 6, and that includes Chris and Aloe
Your math sucks

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>>69762602
you cant save someone that doesnt want to be saved

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>>69779852
She said creative differences, to which she went on to have many more flesh streams. She's had nothing bad to say about it otherwise and still says it's a important place.
You should atleast have a vague knowledge of what you choose to argue with anon. Now pretend her own quote doesn't matter.

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>>69779848
>Not even remotely or else they'd have a similar turnover rate.
But they do. A rate is not a sum but a percentage.

>>69779955
Why are you not including holostars? Are you going to start seething and claiming they're "not hololive"?

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>>69780089
>She said creative differences
You know that's not true.
>She's had nothing bad to say about it otherwise and still says it's a important place.
This is especially not true. Go ask her fans if you dare.

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>>69780123
Okay, sure, then the number is up to 11
Nijisanji has graduated dozens of talents

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>>69779475
HoloEn 3/32 quit.
NijiEN 7/38 quit/fired.
Double the attrition rate.
And that's just EN.
Total it's 67/243 for Niji and 14/108 for hololive, and almost half of that is from axing the CN branch.

Niji is burning through talent because it does not give a shit about them.

[Anonymous No.]

>badly argued claims
>ignoring first party sources
>coping about how treating people better if just so you can threat them worse
I could smell it from the second I entered the thread

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>>69762602
Are you aware if she leave niji she wont be a cute knight anymore right

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>>69764963
>the woke mob
hey, twitter is that way if you want to play the victim when people call you out if you're an unlikeable cunt, I'm sure you'll get a lot of support from bluecheck single dads
>in b4 buzzwords salad

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>>69780733
Who are the first party sources? A prisoner under a legal threat is not a credible source on how they feel about their captor.

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>>69780734
haha yeah imagine

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>>69780784
NTA but as a native English speaker that mostly avoids twitter I have no idea what you just said.

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>>69780811
weird you claimed it matters here >>69779566
but you also refused to source that. A real mystery...

[Anonymous No.]

why do people pretend that they watch her and that she needs to be saved

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>>69780123
Okay we'll go by percentage in active branches then.
Hololive has had 70 girls in the JP/ID/EN branches. Of these 70 girls, 6 have been graduated (that's including Hitomi Chris). That gives us a turnover rate of just under 9%. Niji has had 180 talents in the JP branch, and 38 talents in the EN branch, or 218 talents in total. Of these two branches, 37 JPs have graduated and 7 ENs have graduated. 44 talents in total out of 218 gives us a turnover rate of 20%, over twice that of Hololive even including the pre-debut firing of Hitomi Chris. If you just want to look at the EN branches, Hololive has graduated 1 talent out of 16 girls. Meanwhile Niji has graduated 7 talents out of 38. HoloEN has a turnover rate of 6%. NijiEN has a turnover rate of 18%. NijiEN's turnover rate is 3x that of HoloEN's.

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>>69763207
>Hololive is just as bad as niji

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>>69781071
Why are you implying that a breakdown mid-stream is an act orchestrated by management? It's literally by definition an uncontrolled outburst of emotion. You can try to claim they're upset about something stupid but a mental breakdown on stream is not a practiced bit made with the consideration that they might get in legal trouble for it like saying "I like Cover and my manager" is.

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>>69781188
Why are you still excluding holostars when you're comparing to niji numbers which includes males?

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>>69781467
Niji does mixed branches and Holo does not

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>>69763207
>becoming a whore is the only option
Well, if pomu is doing it.

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>>69781599
And? The company's practices still concern holostars, chumcuck. I get that you can't stop seething about them but when you include then you see that the rate is not much different from niji.

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>>69781357
I can't even follow how you made that leap in logic, don't put words into my mouth. Your arguments are already silly enough without you making things up. Now post some of these holos breaking down and cussing out management that you claim happens a bunch.

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>>69764687

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>>69781716
>weird you claimed it matters here
This is you saying that I claimed first party sources matter when I was talking about mid stream emotional breakdowns.

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>>69781706
Just for fun I'm going to include Holostars. Holostars has had 28 guys, and graduated 4 of them. So a 14% turnover rate in Holostars. If we combine them together to be like Niji, we have 98 talents in active Holostars branches, 10 of which have graduated. This gives us a 10% turnover rate, or half of Niji's.

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>>69763207
>and Phase is Phase.
ALL SHE HAS TO DO IS SHILL SOME BEANS.
WHAT, IS THAT A CRIME NOW?

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>>69781467
>>69780478
Here it is with all of them.
If we exclude CN from the numbers since that has nothing to do with management we get 1/4 the turnover rate.
If you do include CN it is still less than 1/2 the turnover rate.
These numbers are actually even better for hololive if you consider that Aloe and Chris are special cases as well but we all know you want to cook the books as much as possible.
But even if you do hololive does not come close to niji.

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>>69781751
What part of my post is defending niji? There's more than two companies being discussed here.

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>>69781827
post the sources dipshit

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>>69775223
She cannot be saved, anon. She has made her choice, and only she can decide for herself if she wants to drown in Tazumi's cum

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>>69762602
i watched her stream and she's kinda boring...

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>>69781848
So a 10% rate is good now? It's awful. 1 our of 10 people that join hololive will lose everything they worked for.
That doesn't happen at a place like Vshojo where they can keep everything.

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>>69782102

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>>69781948
Pekora crying on three streams in a row over a cancelled project is very well known. Are you too new to know about that? I'm pretty sure Marine did the same too.

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>>69781881
You like to talk about special cases but don't even know the names of the people that graduated from niji. I really can't blame you for that because there's no many of them and because niji is obviously shit, but hololive is still not much better and if the alternatives to holo are kawaii, phase and vshojo you would have to be insane to suggest that hololive is a good choice.

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>>69780089
obsessed chimp

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>>69782342
Double the turnover at best.
At best.

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>>69782502
And? Hololive is still worse than the alternatives.

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>>69782654
How so?

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>>69782839
Joining hololive ends up just like niji. Japanese corpo autism and you don't get to own your IP. It's simply a bad deal for anyone that doesn't live in Japan and enjoy kissing jap corpo ass.

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>>69782654
Kawaii has 44% attrition rate????

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>>69783102
I never said kawaii was good.

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>>69783102
there are extenuating circumstances. Please undastando

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>>69782939
>Joining hololive ends up just like niji
Not at all, and you seem to only be focused on the IP part. Have you considered that there are benefits to joining Hololive despite the lack of IP ownership?

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>>69783402
There are no benefits to joining hololive if you don't get to own the IP. Literally what's the point of doing anything if you don't own your work?

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>>69783211
You said
>alternatives to holo are kawaii, phase and vshojo
phase and vshojo do have better track records but they are still small and new. Joining a corpo in the first place means getting access to things a large corpo will give you much better than a small one.
And out of the two big ones hololive is clearly better.

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>>69783490
Are you retarded?

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>>69783583
There's nothing hololive offers that you can't get in vshojo, unless you're talking about japanese corpo bullshit.

[Anonymous No.]

I like this fanart. Makes her look like Kei Shirogane

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>>69783731
Has Vshojo done anything like Holofest?

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>>69783490
People work jobs to make money. Hololive is a job that makes them millions. If that's not a benefit to you, then I don't know what to tell you. It's not like anyone ACTUALLY forgets who someone is just because they leave a company. People know who Triangle is. People know who Kson is. People know who Doki is. You are hung up on the idea that leaving a company means everything you built up is gone, but that's obviously not the case in reality. Your reputation follows you. If it didn't, Kson wouldn't have a career right now.

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>>69783834
They did one concert. It doesn't take much more work to do it at a live venue.

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>>69762602
>Kawaii
anon...
>Phase
lmao
lol with an fucking e

[Anonymous No.]

>No PRISM suggestion

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>>69762602
she belongs to wactor

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>>69783731
You get brand recognition, access to resources and a larger pool of easy to get. high profile collab partners.
These are the things you join a corpo for, otherwise you might as well stay indie.

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>>69784169
who?

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I still don't understand why people call it corpo autism when the corpos are just bound by the constraints of nip laws or the lack thereof protecting fair use

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>>69783966
I mean, have they done anything that is actually like Holofest? I'm not talking about a shitty twitch concert with junky assets. Vshojo simply does not have the resources to pull something like Holofest off. I've not seen anyone but Hololive do something like this: https://files.catbox.moe/5sc4t7.mp4

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>>69783731
Hololive can offer you a chance to get in by merit without having your tongue deep in IronLung’s asshole after you already did all the work to get big enough to be noticed. Fag.

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>>69781001
Leftists are now trying to gaslight people into thinking Twitter is an alt-right hugbox despite a decade of evidence to the contrary. Their tactics are actually very similar to Nijis (i.e. unsuccessful, and unconvincing)

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>>69784587
They could if they wanted to.

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finally we have ironlungfag

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>>69784683
But that guy was a vshojo fan further attacking someone for playing the wizard game.

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>>69785002
I don't think they get enough money from their talents to fund a multimillion dollar event like Holofest

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>>69785128
It doesn't cost that much to do an event like holofest. It's really not as impressive as you think it is.

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>>69785198
How much do you think an event like Holofest costs?

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>>69785198
Then where is it?

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>>69765027
LAME ANONS CAN'T TELL THE DIFFERENCE
ONE TIME FOR AN ANON WHO KNOWS

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>>69785362
A few hundred thousands. Vshojo can easily fund a similar event if they wanted to.

>>69785374
The vshojo fanbase hasn't asked for a similar even to there hasn't been one.

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>>69785491
>book concert hall for 3 days
>run multiweek ad campaign
>rent stage lighting (very expensive to buy)
>have to hire a crew to set up the stage, lighting, and sound
>have to hire dozens of staff to help run the event
>have to get everything insured in case something does go wrong
I'm sure I missed several inputs, but there's a lot of things that go into a 3 day concert. If Vshojo could do it, why haven't they?

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>>69785491
What do you mean "ask for one"?
You don't do nothing until fans are clamoring for something.
You find new things to give to your fans.

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>>69785113
That guy was accusing anyone who uses the words “woke mob” of being an alt-righter who uses Twitter as a hugbox for boomer dads. Which is the literal exact opposite type of person in every way as far as the kind of person that browses Twitter goes; everyone knows boomer dads browse Facebook instead. Twitter and SJWs are tied together like piss and shit; it is logically IMPOSSIBLE to believe anything to the contrary. It’s like denying that air exists.

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>>69785775
Vshojo doesn't need it for 3 days. Ads are something they are already good at. The rest are easy.

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>>69785891
Holofest is a 3 day event, anon.

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>>69785807
And that guy was a vshojo fan and not a niji fan despite you saying that he is like one. I don't know what your problem is.

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>>69784683
hmm, almost as if something changed recently
>gaslight
you people really are addicted to projecting, huh?

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>>69785807
anyone that uses the word "woke mob" is retarded, you can't really change that, sorry

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>>69785975
Yes, Vshojofags and Nijinigs are similar in that they are both SJW-heavy groups that use Twitter as their main source of validation. What is wrong with comparing the two?

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>>69775324
This desu, HKongers can still be considered people since they haven't been brainwashed by the bugmen for that long

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>>69786230
You didn't compare them. You just said the guy is a niji fan.

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>>69786674
I said his tactics are SIMILAR to a Niji’s, not that he IS a Niji. I thought even you understood that, since you said
And that guy was a vshojo fan and not a niji fan despite you saying that he is LIKE one
I.E. LIKE, not IS. Did you just make a typo?

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>>69786981
You're off your meds. You said "leftist are doing X which is like what nijis do". It was a comment completely disconnected from the person that actually did the thing.

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>>69785793
Anon, the closest we've seen from VShojo has been one MMD concert.

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>>69762920
>yatch
good morning sir

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>>69762920
I don't blame the newbies for all we know they are several thousand in debt (they have to fund their own debut after all.)

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>>69762602
No chinese will ever join Holo

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>>69763207
>Muh b-both sides are bad!1
People only resort to this argument when they have absolutely nothing to defend their actual position KEK

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>>69788469
>both sides
Way to misrepresent what I'm saying. Niji and holo are the same side.

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>>69781872
Phase has a history of letting their talents be openly right wing. The only reason they don't have an Uki-tier yab is because they're unpopular.

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>>69787094
That’s not what I said. My post is right there. >>69784683 Why not quote me directly if that’s what I said?

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Why does Holo have a better percentage of people who stuck around then?. Vshojo lost 4 of their 15 members. Hololive wins by literally every metic.

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>>69789755
Your argument makes sense so therefore he won't listen. He hates Hololive because Hololive keeps winning

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I get the feeling the purpose of this spam is to make people start hating her, which is kinda funny so carry on

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>>69790075
she seems fine, just in a shit situation all around. She also blew that guy out for being a snowflake which was pretty based.

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>>69764687
>In both of them you will be discriminated against for not being Japanese and you will always be beneath management.
the ID got their 3d anon, THE FUCKING ID THE MOST SHITER OF THIER BRANCH GOT FUCKING 3D

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>>69790128
At this point I find anything niji does that doesn’t explode in their face suspect. Maybe that was real because of the retarded follow ons from the other accounts but I’m still a little iffy

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>>69790891
fair, but as I said I cut the newbies some slack because if I was in their shoes I'd probably just put my head down and stream for a while. They had no real way out of this mess.

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>>69762602
Can't save her from herself lol. Should've stayed quiet if they had nothing good to say.

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>>69790361
And ID doesn't get to use their 3D despite having it. Same goes for EN.

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>/vt/ likes chinks now

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>>69789755
>Why does Holo have a better percentage of people who stuck around then?
Leaving hololive is a high stakes gamble, you have to restart your career essentially. Leaving vshojo means you get a new manager, nothing else changes really.

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>>69762602
Begshield

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>Vshitshow faggot pretending they're any better than Nijiniggers ITT
Talent freedom!!! Talent freedom of getting harassed over a video game and having your colleagues throw you under a fucking bus

Hololive > The rest
Sit the fuck down cunt

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>>69794109
but enough about coco

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>>69779376
>If you're now arguing that Rushia deserved to be fired for what she did in her personal life
>personal life
Damn, we got a lot of retarded tourist these days. I can't believe they still peddling this shit when dramatuber streaming her story while leaking her discord to 140k live.

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>>69794244
No Holo girls ever threw Coco under a bus, in fact a lot of them got flack and sacrificed a lot just to side with her or to show her some love, including Fubuki who got harassed by chinks long after coco graduated still
You're an abysmal retard who got no fucking clues about what you're talking
Also twitchniggers are a blight and so is Vshitshow, go suck off your cringy ass ecelebs and fleshstreamer you moronic hobby tourist

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>>69794445
her managers sure threw her under.
silver's streaming perfectly fine btw
https://www.twitch.tv/silvervale
haven't seen coco in a few years that's weird

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>>69794253
>dramatuber streaming her story while leaking her discord to 140k live
This never happened. If it did you should be able to timestamp the part of the stream where the discord is leaked but you can't.

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>>69792119
wtf are you talking about
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgGVmmVTkhY

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>>69762602
Maybe pink girl can save her

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>>69762602
>Phase...
My vote goes there.

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>>69792119
ID doesn’t get to use the bikini ones because Muslim country you fucking spastic.

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>>69790361
You forgot they also got their own vivid:cruise concerts
And one of them was there because all the good single/top candidate too lazy to go and turned it down (reine).

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>>69802094 (me) oof autocorrect singer into single.

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>>69778853
Coco left on extremely great terms, and Rushia and Mel were only fired for breaking their NDA.

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>>69762602
She went above and beyond talking shit on Twitter. Her application to Hololive has been denied but perhaps another corpo will take her.

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>>69762602
I know she got good taste in games but is she entertaining? I tried watching her for a few minutes and never came back.

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>>69762602
lol no faggot

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Is this the NDF playbook right now? Try to draw attention aggro by making a retarded "all japanese company black company" argument to draw false equivalency between their sewage-level toxic company and one with a good reputation?
They realize that the people who give them a (You) here are still also replying in the drama threads shitting on their company right? Sisters, please do better.

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>>69762602
She should ask those dicks she sucked

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>>69806047
>>69806427

kys Millie. No one fucking likes you or your NDFags

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did any chubers play palworld start to finish I wanna see the whole game

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>>69807154
kaela

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>>69767494
Didn't read. You're not fooling anyone we can smell the papag from here

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>>69793047
Jesus Christ. Shut the fuck up you deflecting shill faggot. I can't believe there are retards giving you the time of day.