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It's time to accept the truth!

>> No.69987450

>>69987402
at least put some effort in
/thread

>> No.69987551

>>69987402
https://www.canada.ca/en/public-health/services/mental-health-services/mental-health-get-help.html

>> No.69987597

>>69987402
The fun thing about these threads is that i don't even know if it's a sister being deeply retarded as usual or just a schizo anon larping to get a thread going on

>> No.69987599

so where are the streams elira?

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>>69987402
I have a better idea. Look at this man

>> No.69987666

>>69987635
Towa is so fucking hot

>> No.69987718

Are sisters old enough to remember Baghdad Bob?

>> No.69987730

dont worry, i will send her all kinds of messages tthat tell her to kill herself over maros, superchats and other means when she comes back.

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>>69987635
Stop making me homosexual, anon

>> No.69987770

>>69987635
If that's a man I would fuck him.

>> No.69987790

>>69987402
Anykuro stocks goes below 3k yen in a few hours, time to accept the truth

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69987823

>>69987635
SISTERS?!?!?!?! I'M TURNING GAY?!?!?!

>> No.69987834

>It's time to accept the truth!
I thought I wasn't supposed to go looking for it though?

>> No.69987836
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>>69987402
so where's the streams and pic elira? am waiting.

>> No.69987850

A general died for this garbage

>> No.69987856

>>69858855

>> No.69987913

>>69987402
this is a sad tourist larp
bait used to be believable

>> No.69987950
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69987950

It is now Day 13 of the 3 day special operation against Dokibird

>> No.69987999

>>69987635
too bad she sounds like a meth addict

>> No.69988172

>>69987999
That's even hotter

>> No.69988352

>>69987635
Deliciously twappable

>> No.69988655

>>69987402
of course, she won, imagine being a runner for that embezzled money.

>> No.69989680

>>69987402
she better come back and show tits for a victory lap

>> No.69989823

>>69987635
towa is so fucking hot man i've busted so much semen to her

>> No.69993781

>>69987402
NijiGODs ALWAYS win

>> No.69994278

>>69987402
>>69987551

GSH

>> No.69994926

>>69987402
What did she win exactly?

>> No.69994962

>>69994926
darwin award

>> No.69995082

>>69987950
>dokifags are unironic Hohols
really activates my almonds...

>> No.69996971

>>69987402
ok

>> No.69997046

>>69987635
>genderbent Uki

>> No.69997082

>>69987450
It was an attempt

>> No.69997181

>>69994926
Elira won the privilege to lose twice in sub count against someone she hates. You love to see it.

>> No.69997299

>>69987402
Was it worth it, you worthless corpo-cock sucking bimbo?

>> No.69997349

>>69987751
I kike mococo’s images eve though I don’t watch the twins.

>> No.69997575

Anyone else have a sudden desire to rewatch The Death Of Stalin? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--HXlMZvdl8

>> No.69997586

>>69987599
she's busy getting settled, but it's okay when FWMC move to japan right?? They get all the leeway and time in the world

>> No.69997644

>>69987730
cool, I'll do the same for doki, I wonder which one of them will actually act on the advice?

>> No.69997946

>>69997586
Elira's tweet about getting settled: Feb. 04

Fuwamoco's tweet about moving: 11 hours ago

it's a little early to start comparing the two.

>> No.69998033

>>69997586
>she's busy getting settled
How long does it take to "get settled"?
It's been three weeks already.

>> No.69998061

>>69997586
>Tries to play the Holo card.

Ok people, if FWMC stream before the time "Elira had to get settled", Nijisis offically admit she was busy whoring.

>> No.69998143

>>69987402
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OA7l2Acklvo

>> No.69998261

>>69998033
>>69997946
something tells me you have never moved to a new city before, let alone a new country. It takes an eternity unless you are some hobo with nothing but the shirt on your back slipping into a dive apartment.

>> No.69998321

>>69998061
that's fair, if they resume normal streams before she does with a month head start, I'll concede the point. Even though she has a lot more to deal with at the moment than they do.

>> No.69999740

>>69998261
>something tells me you have never moved to a new city before

I have moved house cross-country (US), from Michigan to California, and then California to Pennsylvania, as well as several shorter moves between states. Each time I was able to get settled and mostly back to normal life within a week.

Considering she probably only took a couple suitcases of clothes over and is purchasing furniture/home goods that can be delivered same day, three weeks is more than enough time.

>> No.69999897

>>69987402
>Elira WON
sadly she can't win without doxxing Selen, and revealing that Selen was being a whiny baby, using her attempts as a way to gain sympathy and act like the victim.
>Christmas Eve
>Selen: hey manager can you approve my video?
>Christmas Day
>Manager: sorry for the delay, the audio is fine, but the video includes graduated talents so i need to get that checked
>day after Christmas
>Selen: leeeerooyyyyyyyy jennnkiinnnnnnnnns!
>Manager: you realize we have to take that down, right? i told you you had to get permission first
>Selen's tweet: hey everyone, please pirate the video and infringe my company's copyright
>Elira: uhhh, are you good, Selen?
>Selen: wahhhh! everyone is bullying me! i'm going to write about queen bee Elira in my burn book
>Selen's parents: i can't believe my precious little angel was totally bullied to making an attempt, let's hire some lawyers to ruin Niji, rather than admit our failure to be good parents
>Selen's lawyers: okay Niji, here are the accusations of what your talents did, and we will drag Niji's and Elira's names through the Canadian courts for unfair dismissal
>Niji staff: we need to hear Elira's side of the story. hey Elira, did you bully Selen into making an attempt?
>Elira: no, of course not!
>Niji staff: would you like to get ahead of the allegations by releasing a statement before we all get sued by Selen's big shot lawyers?
>Elira: i dunno, that sounds a bit dumb...
>Niji staff: well this is the advice of our comms team, and our lawyers, and we'll cancel your visa is you don't...
>Elira: fine, you can host your dumb video on my channel then, and i'll make sure to use my breathy sobby ASMR voice
>Niji staff: perfect! there's no way this could backfire!

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>>69987402

bait thread.

>> No.70000210

dookiebird is a turd

>> No.70000213

>>69987402
I guess it is over, Elira let the entire NijiJP branch drink from her cooch for this one.

>> No.70000220

>>69999897
>>70000000
>>70000040
We were this close to greatness.

>> No.70000242

>>69999897
>fujos writing fanfiction
Name a more iconic duo.

>> No.70000283

>>69999897
Most sane rratposter. 99% accuracy on what probably happened.

>> No.70000415

>>70000242

i think anyone defending Niji or the clique at this point should be classified as having a mental illness.

>> No.70000524

>>69999897
Which one are you? You admit that Nijisanji is just absolutely fucking retarded in making that video. Also who made the termination letter? They threw you all under the bus when being fucking quiet about the issue would have been better.

>> No.70000645

>>70000415
No, believing a known liar, menhera bitch who profited obscenely from her grift is the mental illness. What has Selen ever done to earn such slavish devotion? Honestly? She made nijiEN what it is today, she was their biggest talent, she set the pace, she set the culture there. Then when she is culled from the herd that she herself created, she's suddenly a saint?

>> No.70000747

>>70000524
>Which one are you?
i don't take sides. i've just been around long enough to know that good people in difficult situations with bad incentives can make stupid decisions. ultimately Niji is responsible for creating this toxic environment, but i feel sorry for everyone involved.

>> No.70000769

>>69987402
TRANNIES ARE VALID TRANNIES ARE VALID TRANNIES ARE VALID TRANNIES ARE VALID TRANNIES ARE VALID TRANNIES ARE VALID TRANNIES ARE VALID TRANNIES ARE VALID /QA/ LOST /QA/ LOST /QA/ LOST /QA/ LOST /QA/ LOST /QA/ LOST /QA/ LOST /QA/ LOST

>> No.70000829

>>70000645

>more Niji intern cliqueposting trying to secondhandly gaslight doki into another suicide attempt

doki did nothing wrong. Niji is a black company. deal with it

>> No.70001009

>>70000645
oh look its the chink schizo

>> No.70001290

>>69987402
Remember that Elira is a proven psychopath at this point and some are known to abuse animals. We laughed about her raccoons talks before but, now that we know she's psycho, how can we be sure she didn't torture raccoons for pleasure? This seems awful specific. How did she know? She did experiment? Did she suffocate raccoons to death? And she didn't just mention raccoons just once. Is it like the Uki situation where being obssessed with something says a lot about her?
https://youtu.be/h5MN187rhs8?si=ol5EJojmpPbsoazh

>> No.70001373

>>70000829
>>70001009
please tell me how I'm wrong. Everyone proudly used to say that Selen was the heart and soul of nijiEN. She was their biggest girl, their main attraction. She promoted endless homo shit. She is complicit every step of the way, and would STILL be there if not for the MV thing, happily sucking at Apex like always.

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>>69987402
Very Good Nijitizen! you will receive a 5 credit bonus for your valiant efforts against the Dokichian's villainous schemes, alas we can only give you 2% of the bonus! but fret not! it's for the cause sister!

>> No.70001475

>>70001290

Elira probably made this thread. a psychopath who would abuse animals 100% would move on to trying to gaslight doki into another suicide attempt, and i 100% believe her cliques been roped into it as slave labor.

>> No.70001513

>>70000747
I believe most of this was a result of pressuring a talent into managerial duties way above their ability to keep up, but there is clear signs of favoritism involved, and with the ineptitude, combined with Japanese perms autism has resulted bizarreand toxic work environments, with inconsistent rules is what gives Selen's claims of a toxic work environment very credible. This is before we even go into claims of bullying, but I feel there needs more details on that to really nail down where and who was involved in that.

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70001552

>>70001412
ANYTHING FOR THE GLORY OF THE MOTHERLAND! I DO THIS SERVICE FOR FREE! DEATH TO DOKI!

>> No.70001619

>>70001290
>a lot of rrats
kek

>> No.70001704

>>69987599
I need to move every year twice because of work. I only need 1 day to pack, the travel time and another day to unpack
For her to settle on a new country, should be at most 10 days, being generous. She's just hiding

>> No.70001796

>>70000645
Imagine endorsing a Black company to protect the shitty behaviour of its talents. Chat reflects streamers no wonder everyone is dumping on you guys.

>> No.70001850

>>69987402
I know it's bait, but i'd really like to know how
>Elira WON
when she's lost a fuck ton of subscribers, has been getting reamend on social media and, to my knowledge, hasn't done anythnig since the black stream
>NijiEN WON
when their reputation is in the toilet and is being dragged down further with uki's racist shenanigans
>Anycolor WON
with their massive stock drop, even the nips are starting to get worried
>dookiebird LOST
when all she wanted was to just put the whole mess behind her. she's streaming as normal, taking part in events having collabs and selling merch
>/vt/ LOST
the one point i'll concede because /vt/ loses everytime a tourist walks in and shits up the catalog and boy howdy has this shitstorm attracted a lot of tourists
>dramafags LOST
when this is a dramafags wet dream, vtuber drama has finally become mainstream and all it took was nijisangi shooting itself in the foot with a rocket launcher

>> No.70001964

>>70001850
Well Elira is part canadian, right? I think leafs believe that if you have more subscribers than your enemy then they win.

>> No.70002106

>>69987402
>no streams since the self incriminating literal black video
>lost so many subs she's now way behind her previous sub milestone
>meanwhile Doki already surpassed her in subs and she's gaining so much money and she has so much support she basically has her own personal agency now
Lol. Lmao, even.

>> No.70002132

>>70001964
Sadly for Elira, she has a lot of dead subs

Verification not required.

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>>70001373

>> No.70002662

>>69998321
>Even though she has a lot more to deal with at the moment than they do
And what would that be? Malding hard after talking a huge ass L by doing that shitty black screen stream?

>> No.70002764

>>70000210
STFU Niji clique member

>> No.70002769

>>70002662
no, butthurt Fagoons hounding her every move making her life miserable because their goddess tacitly tells them to do so.

>> No.70002834

>>70002769
Rent is freeeeeeeeeeeeee

>> No.70002841

>>70002479
still no response eh? Would Selen be one of the 'bad ones' supporting niji if they just let her MV go through and she was still there? Or would you animals have turned on her too the way you did on everyone else?

>> No.70002892

>>70002769
Except she said the complete opposite multiple times. Elira is just reaping what she sow.

>> No.70002938

>Nijisisters so assblasted they need to make a Rentry blacklist to keep up with all the artists, merch makers, and clippers who have criticized Nijisanji and stated they were in the wrong
Winning!

>> No.70002959

I can't wait for Elira to return to Canada so she can get her ass sued by Doki.

>> No.70002970

>>70002841
The MV was simply the straw that broke the camel's back, you fool, not the reason.

>> No.70003122
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>>69987402
bait was, at one time, believable.

>> No.70003138

>>70002970
but she'd still be there, still cackling like a hyena doing the same shit as always

>> No.70003228

>>70003138
And still getting fucked in the ass by management and getting bullied by the clique until she eventually ended up quitting anyway. Just like how Mika or Pomu or the other faggot did. And just like the remaining talents are right now.

>> No.70003255

>>69987950
2 more weeks and NijiEn will gain back its reputation, trust the plan sisters

>> No.70003410

>>70002959
>sued by Doki
Yeah! Doki should ruin not just Elira's reputation and career, but also ruin her financially. Clearly Doki isn't the bully here!

>> No.70003424

>>70003138
Sure, the MV is the true evil of it all. It spontaneously appeared on Elira's page and they can't delete it. All voices in it magically appeared.

How the heck you use the "MV bad" as a defense now? Also are you literally trying to sell us that she wasn't looking to graduate?

It's never enough desperation for them.

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>>69987402
I wanna be in the Reddit screenshot too

>> No.70003478

>>69987635
Thats just Subaru with extra steps.

>> No.70003528

>>70003410
Whoever is gaining 1 penny for each time these people try to gaslight everyone there is a lawsuit going on, congrats for surpassing Elira's subs. XD

>> No.70003537

>>69987402
Don't go looking for the truth.

>> No.70003564

>>70002959
>>70003410
It's actually a lot sadder than that. Elira will always live in fear of Doki suing her, but Doki will never do it, because she's better than them.

>> No.70003664

>>70003424
No? She had stuff scheduled far into the future. She was fine. She had a sperg out woman moment and that was that. If not for that MV situation she'd still be there, retweeting what management told her to like all the other girls

>> No.70003780

>>70003564
Doki will never do anything legal, she would get obliterated. She's simply not a credible witness, regardless of what happened. Plus it would be the end of her career, her name would leak somehow, and all her hard earned griftbux would be spent on lawyers, even if she actually won the case it wouldn't end up as a good thing for her.

>> No.70003959

>>70003780
>he hasn't seen the legal man streams
The only problem would be jurisdiction. It the trial took place in Japan, it'd be a hard one to win, but if it took place in Canada, that fat fuck would have to sell his yacht to have enough money to pay her.

>> No.70004099

>>69987635
BUILT for consecutive pregnancies, literally CONSTRUCTED as a vessel for my genetic material

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>>69987402
Ask the producer to pipe this into the NijiEN Discord server so I can talk to you, Elira. I hope you’re taking notes. I’m telling you in advance, you’re welcome, for the wisdom I’m about to spew. Because listen, I get on my knees every night and pray for someone to believe in me like Riku Tazumi believed in you. You wanted a certain manager, they brought in their best. You wanted to be a management liaison, they let you. You wanted Mint Fantome, they brought her in and got rid of her when you were tired of her. You wanted Quinn Benet, they brought him in and got rid of him when you were tired of him. They brought in your old friend Lyrica. You wanted to shut down covers from non-clique members? They looked away. You wanted four times as much exclusive merch as your own genmates, they gave it to you—and it didn't work.

And you know what, you said I’m gonna add in more of my clique. I see the bright lights of Luxiem. I want to go there. My old pal Tora. It’s gonna work, the Golden 20—and all after one year the chinks turned on them. You realized, “oh my gosh! I took this guy for granted, the guy that believed in me. I want back with Riku Tazumi.” They traded Matara Kan for you—how did they pull that off?

And you know what? You went there, and you got a sister who won two awards at the Vtuber Awards—she won two awards! And what did you say afterwards? You said, ”they didn't hand me the reins.” You’re the NijiEN daisenpai! You were holding the reins! And what did you do when you had the reins? You hosted that god-awful black screen stream after she got terminated, you blew your 600k subscriber milestone. So they fired their managers, not good enough. You broke up with the guy that believed in you again, you said “the bright lights of Tokyo! That’s where I want to go! Let’s see if that works.”

Listen Elira, have you ever had those friends who had bad roommates? Over and over they complained about their bad roommates: “this guy’s terrible,” “the bad roommate here,” they never thought to be self aware enough that THEY’RE the bad roommate! They’re the problem! Hey Elira, YOU’RE the PROBLEM! If this doesn’t work this year, in this corpo, with this clique, then you’re gonna go and point fingers at everybody else and then you’re gonna go back home and you’re gonna start swiping right for another corpo, and there’s not gonna be anyone left. Because Elira, you’re not the headwings, you’re not the corpo, you’re the problem.

>> No.70004372

>>69999897
Hearing that Maria had no difficulty with her cover featuring a graduated liver was interesting. I watched Selen's Last Cup of coffee video and there is a shit ton of artists involved. I wonder if the sheer amount of artist NDAs needing to be crafted by ESL management is what made her have a menhera freakout.

>> No.70004451

>>70003122
CC pussy!

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>>69987402

>> No.70004475

>>70003528
>gaslight everyone there is a lawsuit going on
No one is claiming that Doki has formally filed a lawsuit, but people are overconfident if they are claiming with certainty that there isn't a lawsuit, or at least a threat to file one.
I don't know what the Japanese "pre-action protocol" is like, but for all we know, there could have been a "letter before claim" or similar step made already.

>> No.70004525

>>70003255
>week 3 of niji's 3 day special operation

>> No.70004585

>>70004372
>artist NDAs needing to be crafted by ESL management
oh, you mean the NDAs that the artists kept receiving with someone else's info on them?

>> No.70004596

>>70003959
If she were to pursue legal action over Anykara, she would have to go on the offensive in Japan,
> source -- whatever I remembered from the first lawyer streams (not the Lucius Malfoy, Butcher of Blaviken, the one who invited Nousagi later)
where she would have her name dragged through the mud by corporate slave drones, and the general flaccid attitude of the public towards exploitation of its workers

>> No.70004602

>>70004372
Considering multiple artists claimed Anycolor management couldnt even get their names correct on the NDAs they bothered to send, seems likely. But that's also not on Selen. Management needs to put on their big girl panties and get the fuckin work done.

>> No.70004756

>>69987402
What did she win?

>> No.70004762

>>69997082
kek

>> No.70004865

>>70004585
>>70004602
Yes, management is retarded. You'd think working for 2 years at this company would have given her the foresight to come up with a way to work around the ESL retardation rather than asking people to reupload the video, which is breaking the rules.

>> No.70004979

>>70004865
It's called getting sick of their shit.

>> No.70004983

>>70004865
I'd say fuck it and break rules in order to get fired too at that point

>> No.70005053

>>70004372
I know that the screenshots in the black box video say it's about Nina and Yugo perms, but what if ex-liver perms aren't the actual problem? What if management is using that to mask the true root cause: current livers refusing to give perms?
We already know management lies about everything, there's reason to believe they can lie about this as well

>> No.70005124

>>70004272
Oh god she really is James Harden isn't she? Are there any Greek vtubers for her to hate on?

>> No.70005127

>>70005053
Oops not Yugo, I meant Mysta

>> No.70005148

>>70005053
i think it has already been speculated that current livers said no to be little bitches to delay her project.

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>>69987402
>holoEN is shit
>nijiEN is shit
>doki is a happy indie
>pomu is a happy idol concert indie
no, corpos lost.

>> No.70005223

>>70004272
i’m not nbapilled enough to appreciate this one properly but i commend your clear effort regardless

>> No.70005265

>>69987635
WTF I'M GAY NOW!?!?!?!

>> No.70005292

>>70004865
If management is allowed to set a hard deadline for voice pack recordings, that Selen missed by an hour (which I think is perfectly fine for the record) I feel a hard deadline for a CHRISTMAS PRESENT ON CHRISTMAS for a project over a year in progress is also reasonable.

>> No.70005407

>>70005149
HoloEN is great and doing great. Doki will be lucky to keep 5k averages a month from now. Pomu will soon crawl back to vtubing.

>> No.70005429

>>70004475
what if most of this drama was caused by a miscommunication somewhere along the chain of
>Selen (and her parents?)
>Selen's Canadian lawyers
>Selen's Japanese lawyers?
>NijiSanji's Japanese lawyers
>NijiSanji management
>NijiSanji livers
so with emotions running high, and people not being in a sound state of mind, or not understanding the industry and cultures involved, isn't it possible that was intended as an innocent record of misunderstandings got unintentionally escalated into a legal document that was mistakenly interpreted as Exhibit 1 in a future court case?

>> No.70005447

The only person who won was dokibird. Seethe more stupid nijiwhore cunts. Go die in a fire ahahahahahahhaha

>> No.70005552

>>70005429
>what if
>maybe this happened
>how about this
>okay, I think that
>well, if this then that

Sisters are flailing lmao


This happened, the end : https://rentry.org/thegurrat

>> No.70005556

>>70004983
>break rules in order to get fired too at that point
Sure, you can do that, but you don't get to play the victim after doing so.

>> No.70005570

>>70001704
Yup.
Two weeks since the black screen video, and three weeks since literally anything else from her. Plus she and Petra were getting ready to host the Mario Kart tournament, so she definitely was planning to have her streaming setup ready 3 days before she and Vox and that other guy shat the bed.
Her only winning move would be to apologize to Doki for the black screen, and even that is less of a "winning" move and more of a "temporarily stop losing" move, since Anycolor's response to that apology would be to fire her and sue her for "damaging" their reputation. Her only two other options are "eventually return to streaming as though nothing happened" (extremely bad for her career) or "remain on self-imposed hiatus and/or stealth suspension until her contract expires, and then quietly graduate" (marginally less bad for her career)

tldr her career is over and she knows it, and she's hoping that people might some day forget that the Elira Pendora character ever existed in the first place.

>> No.70005587

>>70005429
That's pretty much what happened, but unfortunately it doesn't matter anymore because it has escalated into incessant shitflinging on all levels and investors getting involved.

>> No.70005596

>>70005149
Pomu is literally struggling right now cause she doesn't know if she can pull off an indie career or if any agency would hire her. She wouldn't have it as easy as Doki did.

>> No.70005599

>>70005407
a 5k average would still put her in the top 1% of vtubers, especially english speaking ones

>> No.70005668

>>70005429
>Miscommunication.

Again, this is a shit defense. Let's say someone did mess up traslation:

>The termination document is still shit and self-reporting.
>The MV is still shit and self-reporting, and comes after Doki 100% clarified she wants to move on.
>The Apology still exist and ffs it. does. admit. management. was. 100%. shit. It admit fault on the side of the company.
>Said fault has NOT been addressed unless you are convinced hiring JP high schoolers is a good idea for a company operating in EN.
>The clique is still not streaming and doing full damage control with nothingburger posts.
>Uki is still racist.

All this still true even in your world. All of it. Stop using a defense that is an open admission of guilt and think you somehow convinced us that the company don't need to fix shit.

>> No.70005686
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>>70005556

>> No.70005694

>>70005407
>holoEN is great
>bunch of shit talents that dont even stream
no.

>> No.70005719

>>69987450
This post will still earn enough rupiahs to feed his local village for a week

>> No.70005749

>>70005596
Pomu and Doki have something these corpo slaves dont: freedom.

Also they dont have to pay the superchat tax.

>> No.70005758

>>70005668
>>Uki is still racist.
can someone explain why anyone on 4chan should care about this, i've never seen any other board scream /pol/ at a liberal faggot

>> No.70005809

>>70005596
she's one of the few nijiENs that are pretty much universally beloved, she also left on good terms so they'll be no hand-wringing about whether she's a 'safe hire'. it wouldn't be shocking if a few agencies have already tried to scout her

>> No.70005848

>>70005596
Maybe before she joined NijiEN she wouldn't have great chances but now after leaving she has an insanely stacked resume as a relatively drama-free near-univerally loved NijiEN daisenpai, she could sign with any corpo she wants if she had the confidence to.

>> No.70005851

>>70005694
>Holodeflect.

Guys I think we need a new name for Nijifags, Can't survive a single topic without talking about another company.

I don't think that's the sign of a true fan.

>> No.70005857

>>70005429
I can understand the misunderstandings but it was still pretty scummy to ghost her after she intended to leave, because they care more about their graduation queues and investors than the mental wellbeing of a human being.
But I guess that's just corpo 101

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>>70005596
She's on an alt account most people dont even know about and gets more impressions than promoted corpo tubers.

She will be fine. Like Doki.

>> No.70005938

>>70005758
Because they fired people for a deez nuts joke, according to them, but Uki gets to be around with a stealth suspension. It's self-report on favoritism, proving once again they are shit.

>> No.70005939

>>70005851
fuck off, both companies are shit, that's the point being made.
>durr you're defending nijisanji
BOTH are SHIT.

>> No.70005958

>>70005556
>but you don't get to play the victim after doing so
Wrong. Everyone is using anything that happened BEFORE and AFTER this as victim attributes. Just because she clearly broke this rule and SHOULD be punished for it, it doesn't excuse all the mismanagement until this point.

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>>70005939
One is noticeably more shit

>> No.70006080

>>70005938
the hypocrisy is real i just feel like /vt/ is being raided hardcore by a bunch of retarded zoomers based on all the hand-wringing over /pol/ or threads about 3DPD males

>> No.70006116

>>70005939
lol no.
niji sucks major ass and no amount of your dumb deflection is gona fix that

>> No.70006139

>>70006028
oh look, the unfunny pedo shark that streams once every two months

yeah, such an improvement!

>> No.70006163

>>70005596
She might have a little bit of self-doubt/imposter syndrome going on since she WAS really successful, afterall. Anyone would, I think.

Whatever she ends up doing, she'll be fine - she gets more people listening to a twitter space than the majority of the remaining NijiEN livers get for a scheduled/promoted stream.

>> No.70006206

>>70006139
But enough about Vox.

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>>70006116
niji/holoEN both suck dick, pippa by herself > both companies.

>> No.70006234

>>70006139
Twitter tourist spotted.

Go back where that argument changing works.

>> No.70006283

>>69987836
Pictures taken right before disaster.

>> No.70006335

>>70006234
>both have reddit spacing
stop replying to yourself faggot

>> No.70006365

>>70006234
im criticizing both companies and somehow this is a defense of nijisanji which I also despise cause I liked selen (doki).

fanboys have rotted brains.

>> No.70006436

>>70005596
Her tweet reads more like she has so many options to choose from that she can't decide which one to pick.

>> No.70006441

>>69987402
k
keep me posted

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>>70005596
Gunrun would literally light his backpacks on fire to reunite her with her kamioshi, what the fuck are you talking about

>> No.70006625

>>70006436
now that she has freedom she would hate life with niji or holo, which are soulless and restrictive thanks to "permissions" and "obligations".

>> No.70006762

>>70005223
Look up James Harden. He's an even worse LeGM than Lebron

>> No.70006790

>>70006625
That's just part of the business though. If you're a big enough indie you have to jump through the same hoops yourself.

>> No.70006832

>>70006139
>Pedo-shark
>>>/r/eddit

>> No.70006859

>>70006790
You don't need perms to play games as an indie.

>> No.70006906

>>70006790
Doki is free to do anything, say anything, without consequence. Also she takes 100% of supas. (minus youtube tax)

>> No.70007053

>>70006859
>>70006906
You definitely have to jump through copyright hoops even as an indie, it just involves far less paperwork than with JOP corporate autism.

>> No.70007149

>>70007053
Most indies just play whatever they want and mod the everloving fuck out of games without a care in the world. Can you elaborate on what you mean?

>> No.70007177

>>70005668
for what it's worth, i completely agree with you. it was Niji's bad management that mostly caused the problems leading up to the document, and the management is also mostly responsible for making things get so much worse since the document. even if i was 100% sure of the innocent miscommunication rrat, i would still agree that the company cannot continue to function the way that it has been.

>> No.70007238

>>70005596
>if any agency would hire her
Oh how little you knew.

>> No.70007292

>>70005686
Facts.
That image basically sums up what I think.

>> No.70007309

>>70007053
pretty sure at this point i've learned how garbage hololive and nijisanji are. if I was ever going to be a vtuber i'd either be an indie or join a smaller company like phase.

>> No.70007313

>>70005596
Cmon now, Pomu is probably the most beloved English niji tuber and has pretty much zero negativity or drama surrounding her. She'd also be supported by Doki with collabs too because they were already good friends in Niji. She'd do fine.

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>there is a timeline where Elira and Selen were friends
>we're not in it
It's not fair

>> No.70007542

>>70007149
It's just common sense copyright bullshit. Most game companies realize that people playing your game is a good thing, but that doesn't mean they can't at least pursue legal action if they so desire. Just like with playing copyrighted music on stream.
This is generally why big corporations and large streamers cover their track with perms.

>> No.70007580

>>70007053
Literally what copyright hoops? Have you ever even watched a non japanese indie?

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>>69987635
anon was right

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70007739

>>70005694
This is no longer pre Advent HoloEN sis.

>> No.70007740

>>70007542
That's a Twitch/Youtube issue. That has nothing to do with japanese company autism. And anyone who's too retarded to split their audiotracks to play copyrighted music deserves to get their vod deleted/channel struck, it is 2024 you need to know how to do that.

>> No.70007809

>>70005596
She's going to be one of the biggest indies no problem.

>> No.70007849

>>70007542
Most streamers go ahead and play whatever they want without explicit permission from the company itself. It's a normal thing for a vtuber corporation to ask for permissions, but normal people who aren't affiliated with a company don't have to do this. Some guy in Sweden doesn't need From Software permissions to play Elden Ring on stream.
If you meant music, then that's a separate issue entirely and everybody should be aware of how easy it is to be DMCA'd. Game companies tend to not pursue any individual streamer or video creator for playing their game because it's been proven to be nothing but bad reputation for the company in the past.

>> No.70007877

>>70007739
hololive has been shit for ages, all they have is the crazy rabbit (jp)

>> No.70007914

>>70005599
Sure. She's going to do great. But she won't be on par with more popular HoloEN members.

>but no corp cut

Also no big sponsorships, less merch, no big lives, etc.

>> No.70007946

>>70007914
guess who will be happier

it's the one not in the wageslave corp.

>> No.70008031

>>70007877
Cope harder. I actually used to support NijiEN when they started. But ever since Luxiem they were only getting worse and worse. Meanwhile HoloEN learned from mistakes and got 10x better.

>> No.70008110

>>70005149
But Advent saved HoloEN. Shiori not included.

>> No.70008109

>>70007946
Most of Holos seem happy to me. To the point the few terminated ones had mental breakdowns over getting fired.

>> No.70008130

>>70007849
>Game companies tend to not pursue any individual streamer or video creator for playing their game because it's been proven to be nothing but bad reputation for the company in the past.
That's the point I'm trying to make, smaller streamers functionally don't need perms because there's really no precedent for game companies taking legal action against individual streamers. That does not mean they couldn't, in the eyes of the law, and it would be on the platform to enforce it.

>> No.70008199

>>69999897
>pirate the video
look at this retard lmao
PIRATE a free youtube music video, with a song in which the copyright holders incentivize covers with no strings attached or fear of takedowns

>> No.70008251

>>70008109
>seem
yeah they are going to stream how unhappy they are and get fired, that'd be smart

>> No.70008269

>>70007849
PR hit from suing random dude from Sweden not worth the small change they could get. suing another corporation tho? not that's viable

>> No.70008301

>>70008031
every holoEN is garbage, only pekora stands out in general.

can say the same for niji now that pomu/selen are gone.

>> No.70008376

>>70008130
>That does not mean they couldn't, in the eyes of the law
It's a legal grey area in the US, because most of the time streamers add commentary to the games they're playing, which then makes the streamed gameplay protected under Fair Use. So while they could try and take legal action, they would need to come up with a VERY good case against it not falling under Fair Use.

>> No.70008415

>>70008251
you know this isn't niji right? they can just stream on their old channel if they are unhappy with cover.

>> No.70008523

>>70008376
Sure, but Youtube has not been known to care much about fair-use in copyright situations.

>> No.70008547

>>69987402
nijisisters its time for your meds
https://archive.is/el80O

>> No.70008701

>>70006206
kek

>> No.70008732

>>70008523
ContentID tries to look for people who are directly copying/re-streaming someone else's work. It doesn't do a good job identifying if the person is adding any commentary on top of it (to put it under fair use). Most small-time streamers don't want to risk having to fight against an automated system to prove what they are doing is covered by Fair Use.

>> No.70008768

>my black company is better than your black company!

>> No.70008855

>>70007914
>Also no big sponsorships, less merch, no big lives
lol lmao even

>> No.70008948

>>70002769
Cope

>> No.70009047

>>70008768
describe what you think makes a black company

>> No.70009049

>>70004865
>would have given her the foresight to come up with a way to work around the ESL retardation rather than asking people to reupload the video,
What if she used that as part of her plan?, two things can be true at once
>Doki master manipulated the masses(I prefer her to be that, than a real life ragequiter)
>Elia and clique is the management fucking shit up and doing the mean girls politics

So if we assume Doki is resilient to never take her own life over this shit, how could you: 1) Leave the black company immediately 2) get back at your harassers
of course Doki couldn't NEEEVER in a million years predict nijiEN would fumble everything this bad, in hindsight Doki could have been Zaion2.0 if she was the first one to take a shot

in this scenario NijiEN evil schemes was the best possible outcome for her, the amount of exposure she got paid for every single penny of those 200k in projects

>> No.70009083

>>70009047
cover and niji being pieces of shit that make talent miserable (many examples)

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>>70002938
These cunts are so stupid it’s hilarious. At this point the sisters will be the ones to put the final nail in their corpos coffin

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>>70006625
Have I got a deal for you

>> No.70009193

>>70009083
>cover
>suffering by success
well I guess so

>> No.70009264

>>70009193
even pekora almost quit over projects being rejected

keep thinking these JP companies arent run by assholes.

>> No.70009267

>>70007339
or there's a timeline where Mint got the Solar Sky Dragon model
and nijiEN become an actual good place of pure kino dragonsisters collab everyweek
imagine EVERYSINGLE INCEST PORN WE NEVER GOT

>> No.70009355

>>70009267
God damn it nijisanji, why are you so fucking shit.

>> No.70009518

>>70009049
I'm sorry, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt because at this point I can barely follow this gaslighting, but are you saying she planned for Niji to be hyper-incompetent and evil so it's her fault they sunk themselves?

>> No.70009525

>>69999897
>There are graduated talents we own, we could sue ourselfs if I don't check this
Sounds like malicious intent on prolonging the release.

>> No.70009569

>>70009264
straight up a lie. she whined and took a short break and was back to streaming shortly after.

>> No.70009575

>>69987635
gayyyyy

>> No.70009577

>>70008199
>PIRATE a free youtube music video
this is going to come as a surprise to a genius like you, but just because something is available for free on the internet doesn't mean it isn't covered by copyright.
the video included images of Niji livers, to which Niji owns the copyright, so making unauthorized copies of the video is undeniably an infringement of copyright.
the only way it might not count as pirating is on the basis of Niji's published Guidelines for Secondary Creation, except those guidelines explicitly forbid publishing...
>Any thing that is in violation of ... any separate rule prescribed by our Company.
the requirement for Selen to get internal permission before publishing was clearly a rule prescribed by the company, so Selen knew that people did not have copyright permission to re-upload her video.
you might not like the fact that copyright law works this way, but the law doesn't care whether you like it or not.

>> No.70009583

>>70009264
Cover is far from perfect, but compared to Anycolor they might as well be gods.

>> No.70009630

>>69987402
If you're gonna shitpost with her could you at least post some lewds?

>> No.70009667

>>70009583
both are shit, JP management is notoriously garbage.

>> No.70009741

>>70009667
Name a Holo who tried to kill herself

>> No.70009769

>>70009741
Rushia

>> No.70009775

>>70009049
>>Doki master manipulated the masses(I prefer her to be that, than a real life ragequiter)
anon then you haven't watched her as she's had spergouts over not being picked for sanrio when lazulight was

>> No.70009838

>>70009741
Rushia, Coco almost

>> No.70009925

>>70009518
>but are you saying she planned for Niji to be hyper-incompetent and evil so it's her fault they sunk themselves?
in my theory her plan was just to leave immediately by forcing their hand

>Makes a "precious video" to your fans
>make sure to say how much it cost and how long it took
>give to the "manager" last than 48h before you planned release(knowing they are going to delay out of spite as always)
>release anyways on christmas, forcing them to private the MV
>makes the sad tweet
>makes an attempt that can easily fail (slow acting meds? wrist cuts?)
>get hospitalized
>now with all official documents from hospital and therapist makes the harassment document with your lawyer
>threats to reveal the toxic environment if they don't let her graduate by the end of January
plans end here
then nijiEN does the unthinkable and shits the bed, so instead of having a lukewarm farewell she becomes vtuber jesus

>> No.70009933

If I thought was true for even a moment I would have raped Elira on stream already.

>> No.70009995

>>70009049
If Nijisanji had actual managers or allowed her to hire assistants, she never would have spent 200k in projects in the first place.

>> No.70010071

>>69997644
Lmao, you and I both know Doki is lying about that. It's about destroying your gay little clique, not defending a poor victim

>> No.70010076

>>70009775
what one thing has to do with the other? the masses = public opinion
she can't control/had no control over how management was favoring the clique
she was literally the top girl and got excluded from sanrio and the PC case

>> No.70010084

>>70009525
>we could sue ourselfs if I don't check this
the internal policy isn't really about copyright, it's about not giving free advertising to a former talent who might have left in bad circumstances.
i don't know how long it should take for the PR team to make a decision about that, but i can imagine the company not thinking that it's a top priority to interrupt all their other work to get that decision made.
when dealing with external entities, like Doki now is, and like fanartists always are, then this internal policy is given legal force through copyright, which, unlike internal policies, is enforceable on other people.

>> No.70010309

>>69987836
She's gonna stream after returning from vacation, with the chat closed so dramabirds have to watch there as she an RPG for 8 hours like it's a regular day.

>> No.70010416

>>70009925
>in my theory her plan was just to leave immediately by forcing their hand
However bad Niji is, there is nothing to contradict your version of events.
Anyone strongly picking one side over the other is doing so for emotional reasons.

>> No.70010432

>>70009995
Nah she would still do that, mainly because nijiEN don't pay shit anyways
the real difference would be Selen get more opportunities that generate money
a personal assistant would help her get into conventions instead of being excluded

Just think back on how less meet and greets Selen had compared to lazusydia and ethyria, today it makes much more sense with the gurrat, she was getting excluded from branch wise conventions but an assistant could get her in solo appearances in minor cons

>> No.70010456

>>70010084
>>70009925
>>70009577
This sounds great if you ignore the fact that Nijisanji should have known about all of the storyboards and art months or even a year in advance. They had more heads up about Nina and Mysta being in the video than the entire process of Maria's cover. There's absolutely no excuse for them not having the perms taken care of, especially knowing that Selen had a hard deadline of christmas (which they ghosted her on, despite it not being a japanese holiday).

>> No.70010510

>>70010416
There are no sides. The argument is niggersanji is a shit company, this has already been proven.

>> No.70010557

>>70010076
so finana and pomu are part of the clique?
>>70009995
selen has talked about her managers many times, in fact she is the only EN who mentioned having to change managers. you don't fucking watch these girls

>> No.70010625

>>70010456
ACTUALLY
Shouldn't they have been able to give the ok to be in the video, at least, before they left?

>> No.70010634

>blatant nijiEN/niji astroturf
>DID YOU ALSO KNOW HOLOLIVE BAD BTW?
Can you faggots self reflect without deflecting for once in your useless lives?

>> No.70010670

>>70010634
This is a blatant falseflag if anything

>> No.70010724

>>70010625
It was NijiFes apparently

>> No.70010726

>>70010634
Holo and Pomu are today's targets I see.

>> No.70010731

>>70010557
Yes, she talks about the managers because they're not doing their jobs. I'm pretty sure the last time she talked about a manager in a positive light was when she talked about the manager meming around in the niji express. The point is that the managers were worthless at helping her or even giving her a basic budget, and she was being deprived of the opportunity to gather her own resources at the same time.

>> No.70010779

>>70010670
The OP was obviously, but not many of the replies.
It's basically a masterful b8 by OP to draw seething NDFaggots in and it worked spectacularly.

>> No.70010808
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>Hololive is good
Cope Nijisisters don't even compare your shitty black company to Hololive

>> No.70010810

>>70010557
>so finana and pomu are part of the clique?
hard to discern who is and who isn't for some members, but Selen case is different
one thing is not being part of the clique, the other is being a TARGET of the clique
So it stop about just favoring X member, but more about excluding Y member

>> No.70010947

>>69987950
/chug/ here, we support Dokibird against (((Niji EN))), enjoy Uki sisters. ZOV

>> No.70010966

>>70010456
>Selen had a hard deadline of christmas
if that was her deadline, she shouldn't have only shown them the finished product on Christmas Eve then.
you can say "they should have known about all the art" but what's to stop a liver from adding an extra character at the last minute, to sneak past the approvals process?
it just doesn't make sense for a company to give final approval to a project while the project is still a work in progress.
yes, in theory, Selen could have asked in advance "do i have permission to include this list of livers", and then the manager would only need to check that the final product matched the initial permissions, but what if the company's relationship with the livers had changed over the time it took to produce the final product?
i have sympathy for Selen that Niji's process wasn't quick enough for her, but as an employee you generally don't get to set deadlines for how quickly your bosses give you what you want.

>> No.70011124

>>70010076
Since Sanrio has had many collabs with NijiJP, my guess is that the Sanrio collab for EN came through NijiJP management, and Sanrio picked the top female wave and top male wave by default.
The PC case collab though, looks to be more something that was set up with NijiEN management directly, and there is no "all wave" selection that went on, but rather they selected livers from separate waves.

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Dear, sisters
There is no narrative that you can push. Doki is a "BPD" menhera, Doki was the mastermind who brought down NijiEN, or what about "both sides." Sayu is disgusting, Sayu is equally as bad as NijiEN, or Sayu is a "clout chaser." Whatever, none of that changes the fact that NijisanjiEN is dead. All of your "livers" will be gone by the end of the year. Vox and the others are going to be out of a job. Meanwhile, Hololive EN, other corpos, Dokibird, Sayu along with every other talent harmed by Niji will live on and there is nothing you can do about it sisters. Cope you femcel sub-human bitches.

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>>69999897
>perfect! there's no way this could backfire!
Their incompetence grew on me.

>> No.70011227

>>70011140
So what happens when the year ends and they are still around? 3rd attempt?

>> No.70011293

>>70011227
Being around and being relevant are two different things sis.

>> No.70011353

>>70011293
>>70011140
>All of your "livers" will be gone by the end of the year.
Doesn't say relevant to me.

>> No.70011368

>>70011227
>when the year ends
It's still February sis

>> No.70011372

>>70010810
i cannot understand your english, use chatGPT

>> No.70011387

>>70005758
It’s just fun to point out the hypocrisy of liberals
It’s not the racism that’s bad, it’s the holier than thou attitude while also being extremely racist.

>> No.70011397

So this is it? The big grassroots push? This is all Elira could put together? These people really do live in a bubble huh

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>>70011227
>So what happens when the year ends and they are still around? 3rd attempt?
Enjoy being the laughing stock and North Korea of the Vtubing space faggots lmao

>> No.70011489

>>70010966
If the video wasn't finished until before the deadline, then it couldn't be shown before the deadline. Similarly, the video's creation process and permissions process are completely exclusive, so if management wasn't making sure that their end was going smoothly to the set deadline, then clearly they're worthless and shouldn't be in management for a billion dollar company in the first place. There's also no excuse for ghosting her or at least giving her a progress update at or near the scheduled time instead of ghosting her again at the 11th hour of a year long, money-intensive community project.

>> No.70011542

>>70011387
racism is independent of political opinion
american politics isn't real politics

>> No.70011609

>>70011397
>So this is it? The big grassroots push? This is all Elira could put together?
Yeah pretty much it's really pathetic

>> No.70011661

>>70011482
>best Korea of vtubing
Thanks???

>> No.70011666

>>70011227
No, all she wants is to completely distance herself from them and be left alone. Which is what she was trying to do when they sawed off their leg with the blackbox stream.

>> No.70011733

>>69987402
>Elira WON
A ruined reputation
>NijiEN WON
An uncertain future
>Anycolor WON
A drop in stock price and reputation
>dookiebird LOST
She is doing better than Elira and most of NijiEN tho, so what kind of cope is that?
>/vt/ LOST
On this we agree. /vt/, like NijiEN, is their own worst enemy
>dramafags LOST
No they have been eating good, what the fuck are you on about? Even this is a drama thread.

Anon, try harder

>> No.70011802

>>70011227
If there is a 3rd attempt and nijien is anyway involved and implicated they don't have to worry about rrats, twitter blowback. It's in their best interest dokis doesn't do anything because if she does they're under suspicion immediately. They should legitimately fear the majority shareholders that will be organizing hits because they've lost 100s of millions because nijien is a fucking high school playground.

>> No.70011808

>>70011666
>completely distance herself from them
>I'll just take my niji fanbase name instead of using my old doki one, that'll show them how much I don't care!!!
Nice try Satan.

>> No.70011814

>>70000242
My cock and OP's mother
Millie and pag pag

>> No.70011825

Real talk, I wonder if Elira will just stream as normal after the obligatory month suspension and pretend everything is normal, banning anyone that tries to bring up the drama.
Unless she did something unforgivable internally that requires her termination, that seems like the wisest option to take.

>> No.70011852

>>70011542
But you’re aware of the exact type person I’m referring to so the difference is negligible

>> No.70011854

>>70011825
Does a suspension mean no mentions from other people? Because she's in discord calls with NijiEN.

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>>70011661
>Thanks???
Your welcome Nijinigger

>> No.70011947
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How has the niji reddit not been shut down already

Like they've completely given up on it, they hate the company there more than the drama threads here

>> No.70011970

Tick tock Elira, not even your NDF can't change the narrative with sheer brute forced shitposting, your people can't even do a proper meme more than repeating Doki bird for 3 hours.

>> No.70011977

>>70011489
>If the video wasn't finished until before the deadline, then it couldn't be shown before the deadline.
that's the fault of the video producers or whoever set the deadline.
>the video's creation process and permissions process are completely exclusive
i don't know what you mean by exclusive, but they are not independent. the permission process can't complete until the creation process is finished.
>management wasn't making sure that their end was going smoothly to the set deadline
there's no way that the management would agree to be bound to a deadline that they had no control over. if Selen had given them the video one second before the deadline, that doesn't force management to complete the review of the video in one second.
>giving her a progress update
maybe Selen should have given management a progress update, so that they could tell her that it's unrealistic to expect them to drop everything they're doing at the last minute to approve her video for her. Selen was the one leaving things to the last minute here, and she is the one who signed the contract saying she would wait for permissions. the management was under no such obligation.

>> No.70011978

>>70011825
If they are not getting her fired then what else she can do?
That's what all of them should've done from the start instead of going full retard

>> No.70011994

>>70011825
Fearless prediction - her chat will be sub only mode at least 4week submode. See cocos chat post Taiwan yab

>> No.70012136

>>70011808
>I'll just take my niji fanbase name instead of using my old doki one, that'll show them how much I don't care!!!
You have this backwards dude, she took that name to claim her fans. This has little to do with NijiEN, and more to do with her connection with her audience. But you sound like a Sister, so I understand if you are incapable of imagining a vtuber that cares for the viewers. The science shows that empathy is group-based, the audience reflects the streamers.

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Anyway, I don't care if Doki was in the wrong or right all I care about is the fact she destroyed Niggersanij's reputation and may even be its downfall. For that alone, Doki has my support.

>> No.70012273

Anyway, I don't care if Rushia was in the wrong or right all I care about is the fact she destroyed Niggerlive's reputation and may even be its downfall. For that alone, Rushia has my support.

>> No.70012310

>>70012209
She didn’t do anything, that’s why it’s so funny. Nijisanji put the 12-gauge in their own mouth.

>> No.70012382

>>70011947
My guess is for every sister part of the NDF, there is a sister that got mindbroken and is now part of the N(Destroy)F

>> No.70012421

>>70012310
>didn’t do anything
>using suicide as pitybait

>> No.70012424

>>70011994
I doubt that for all Niji honestly. 31 March is the end of the fiscal year. Riku can't possibly look at the investors in the eyes with 2 months of no streaming. They will try to get back in action before them, they must.

>> No.70012510

>>70012421
It was Nijisanji that told us about the self harm stuff, sister.

>> No.70012548

>>70011808
we still her fanbase and 99% of us came to know her as Selen first
despite the absurd amount of drama tourists we voted Dragoons, so fuck you

>> No.70012601

>>69987402
Holy shit, an unironic, literal, medically correct schizophrenic thread!

>> No.70012628

>>70012310
I know I would still support her tho regardless
>>70012421
>>using suicide as pitybait
Based doing that killed Niggersanij's reputation

>> No.70012634

>>70012424
why the fuck it matters for investors if Elira streams or not before the end of the FY

>> No.70012697

>>70012548
>says she wants to move on
>fans pick her old name so it looks like shes still seething over being fired
Nice """fans""" you got there dookie. No wonder Pomu had to tell them to stop bullying her during MGR lol. Maybe you'll cause her 3rd attempt yourselves.

>> No.70012780

>>70011666
>keep talking shit about nijisanji and wink wink don't bully other streamers guys ;)
>they respond
>I just wanted to move on, why won't they leave me alone :(

>> No.70012821

>>70012697
Nah, more like dunk on jobless Elira and jailtime for pedo Vox

>> No.70012851

>>70012634
>>fans pick her old name
Based, what the fuck are you going to do about it faggot make more threads seething lmao

>> No.70012882

>>70012310
This right here, she could have crept into the shadows and not made a splash. Niji handed her the exposure, and continue to do so. Look at them still seething here. I do not even watch her, and /vt/ is keeping me up to date on what she is doing through the drama here. Hilarious to say the least.

>> No.70012916

>>70012851
Couldn't even quote the right person lol. Better delete before I see it!

>> No.70012931

>>70012697
>>70012780
How are the JAV auditions going? When do we get to see previews?

>> No.70012978

>>70012780
And it worked Niji's reputation is dead

>> No.70013020

>>70012931
Doki is making a JAV where she gets gangbanged by Apex fleshtubers? Nice. Hope RPR is there!!!

>> No.70013064

>>70012821
Vox will come out of this completely unscathed. Sad but true.

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>>70012978
>reputation

>> No.70013117

>>70012916
>Better delete before I see it!
Nah I could care less it still does not change the fact that Nijisanji got BTFOed nigger

>> No.70013147

>>70013020
Man it's like I really am talking to a woman huh
>Verification not required.

>> No.70013172

>>70013020
You better be deflecting semen from eyes than trying to do same here with posts lmao.

>> No.70013266

>>70013096
Imagine being a grammar-nigger on an imageboard website lol

>> No.70013446

>>70013266
grammar? that's spelled properly, what are you on about you retard?

who gives a fuck about a company's reputation

>> No.70013496

>>69987635
ok

>> No.70013572

>>70013446
nta but investors for a company that relies on the good will of a niche entertainment sector?

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>>70013446
Made you think twice, didn't I? Took you a while to respond. LOL seethe more faggot KEK MY SIDES

>> No.70013707

>>70013647
>jokes on you, I was only pretending to be retarded

>> No.70013796

>>70013446
FAGGOT GOT BAITED LMAO
>>70013647
Good shit

>> No.70013887

>>70013707
Still responded, hook line and sinker lol

>> No.70013902

Losing 20% stock value is winning guys
Also Elira is going to be fucked over for this huge mess by HQ

>> No.70013921

>>69999897
>Leeroy Jenkins reference
>Year of our lord 2024
What PR firm did Niji hire?

>> No.70013955

>>70001373
Selen kept her fan base. Nijikeks are losing theirs.

>> No.70013990

>>70012697
nah we just think elira enna millie vox and ike are all pieces of shit

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>>70013707

>> No.70014086

itt underaged retards baiting and chimping out
this board is a joke

>> No.70014093

>>70012634
cause elira nepoed her way into too many sponsorships duh

>> No.70014138

>>70014086
Stay mad

>> No.70014144

>>70011825
Yup, that's how it'd go.
>>70013902
>threathen action against Elira
>clique (pretty much 1/3 of the company) stands behind her
Assuming the clique is real, Tazumi has lost control.

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>>70001373
>and would STILL be there if not for the MV thing
That's just more proof of how badly fucked this one up sisters...

>> No.70014234

>>70005862
>Wants to be indie so she can do w/e she wants freely without excessive stress or expectations
>Wants to join Holo so she can FINALLY be an Idol
It's an enviable conundrum
Either direction will lead to success, all she needs to choose is what she wants that success to look like

>> No.70014256

>>70014086
>itt
Oh look guys this faggot can't spell lmao

>> No.70014298

>>70011977
If Management had good receipts they would've showed them, the fact that the sanitized version still gave that much insight into how they were incompetent speaks numbers lmao

>> No.70014333

Guys does anybody know if there's a list of liver's PLs somwhere? Wanna look into their friends because of this supposed smear campaign

>> No.70014406

>>70013707
cope

>> No.70014496

>>70011802
technically if anyone else is pushed to attempt, that person would instantly be all the confirmation the whole vtubing sphere needs to dunk on niji lmao

>> No.70014533

>>70013647
Wow, you really owned that anon, go tell your mom about it!

>> No.70014549

>>70014256
newfag doesn't know what itt means...

>> No.70014570

>>70014150
This thread has been just dunking on Nijisis the entire time, honestly I don't think a single message of it has been on topic, because the topic has not been proven to begin with.

>> No.70014576

>>70009168
>Fucking pepe frog statue for a 'prestigious award'
QT needs to fucking QuiT

>> No.70014611

>>70005429
>so with emotions running high, and people not being in a sound state of mind, or not understanding the industry and cultures involved, isn't it possible that was intended as an innocent record of misunderstandings got unintentionally escalated into a legal document that was mistakenly interpreted as Exhibit 1 in a future court case?
Letting it get to that point despite being able to fix the situation at MULTIPLE points is called being at least fucking incompetent if not malicious. There is just no world in which Nijisanji can escape that.

>> No.70014717

>>70009168
>groomers and rapists awards
No thanks.

>> No.70014718

>>70014533
I will thx

>> No.70014732

>>70014611
This. They should've just said she broke muh NDA like other companies do without explaining anything.

>> No.70014739

>>70011182
Imagine if this image spread to Japan...

>> No.70014776

>>70014298
The individual art assets ABSOLUTELY would have been given to management independently ahead of time

That there was only a "problem" with the final product requires an assumption of incompetence equal to malice

>> No.70014811

>>70014144
They are self-centered mean girls. They'll dump her like they dumped other people in the past. If they're able to bully a co-worker into two suicide attempts without remorse, they won't even hesitate to throw her under the bus if it was easier than defending her

>> No.70015121

>>70010947
Nice try Nijisister, no one will fall your cruel trickery.

>> No.70015132

>>70014776
Yeah esp we definitely know the exlivers were there in draft stage and all guideline were followed

>> No.70015290

OP got shat on in his own thread, absolutely embarrassing. Better luck next time faggot. Maybe you should samefag more.

>> No.70015730

>>69999897
Still makes Elira, Vox and Ike look extremely bad in the eyes of every one who isn't a morally depraved Nijisister
They are fucking grown-ups and Nijisanji is in no position to fire Elira and two of their top-earners over not complying. Fans would burn their HQ down
Also you're fucking autistic for thinking they were forced to read that script

>> No.70015945

>>70005596
The only agency that Pomu has a remote chance of not getting in Hololive and it's only because she has that ex-niji mark. Literally all other medium to big agencies are drooling for her.

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Seethe

>> No.70016462

>>70016285
Sure, but you kind of failed as a baiter and troll. Better luck next time faggot.

>> No.70016705

>>69987402
>Elira WON, NijiEN WON, Anycolor WON
Special olympics maybe?

>> No.70016785

>>70016285
>>70016462 (me)
Maybe try samefaging more or come up with more stawman arguments next time fag. This thread was absolutely embarrassing on your part.

>> No.70017428

>>70013921
>Leeroy Jenkins reference
i couldn't think of another two word phrase to convey Selen's self sabotaging tweet.
in terms of memes, would you prefer "imma end this dragon's whole career"?

>> No.70017432

oh boy page 10? can't wait for another one of these threads. maybe it'll bump off more indie, non nijiholo corpo, or solo girl generals

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