/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

Why does she think that she's Vtuber Jesus?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70472576
she came once, open your mouth for the second

[Anonymous No.]

Well she definitely died for Niji's sins.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70472576
she is, look at the way this board suddenly worships her just because they hate niji

[Anonymous No.]

>>70472703
We don't care if doki wins, we just need niji to lose

[Anonymous No.]

>>70472576
All borderline personality women think that they are better that everyone and when someone tell them that isn't true they go full crazy. Slowly, people are realizing that Selen was actually a crazy bitch and that the normal reaction was to bully her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70472576
I don't care what happened to her, she could've phrased that better to sound less egotistical

[Anonymous No.]

>she never gives back to the community, she would never collab with a smaller indie
>charity goal to collab with an indie
you are here

[Anonymous No.]

>>70472576
Maybe this is to limit it to 2-view or lower 3-view

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>70472576
actually based from grifterbird.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70472576
ENNA SHUT THE FUCK UP

[Anonymous No.]

>>70472576
Well I mean she was practically crucified by her people, then was resurrected for the Second Coming, right?

[Anonymous No.]

What the lack of Vox cock vore ASMR RP streams does to a sister.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70472576
her time in the internet spotlight due to niji drama is limited and she knows that.
she has to take advantage of the situation while she still can

[Anonymous No.]

You can ask for a Phase Connect collab! Aren’t you happy Anon?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70472703
>you only like [thing] because of [reason]!

Yeah?

[Anonymous No.]

Im gonna pay her 1k, who should we force her to collab with? Who would she hate to be with? Please be some former niji clique member thats gone indie

[Anonymous No.]

>>70472576
I'm not sure how you could phrase it so it would sound completely ego free.
But still she is right that it would be a huge opportunity for a small indie to be exposed to 10k+ new people.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70473329
Elira pendora

[Anonymous No.]

>>70472764
Though to be fair her usefulness is starting to come into question since she wants to avoid further conflict.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70472921
>You must pay $500 before I will Collab with someone small because I'm just THAT good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70473329
it is currently 2.7k you poorfag

[Anonymous No.]

>>70473329
pay up piggy

[Anonymous No.]

>>70472576
>Giving money to a charity AND chance to give a 2view more exposure is... LE BAD!
Where does the money for the Hex dildo asmrs go to, sister?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70473308
So you watch her streams because of the drama and not because she's entertaining?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70472576
you sound like a stereotypical bully in a manga/anime.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70473385
She literally just revealed that she's duplicating her old loading screen, including using the same song.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70473329
FalseEyed

[Anonymous No.]

>>70473506
Appearance fees rarely go below $10,000 this is actually a steal

[Anonymous No.]

>>70473329
Sayu is the only correct choice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70473506
It's an auction, so it's more like
>You must pay however much it is worth to you

[Anonymous No.]

>>70472576
Someone's gotta oppose the Great Satan Vox.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70473633
This.

[Anonymous No.]

is it just me or does that sound like a horrible awkward experience
it would be like if your mom paid the cool kid to hang out with you for a day

[Anonymous No.]

>>70473787
If that's the case then run with it as a joke. A good entertainer should be capable of turning an awkward moment into a very entertaining one as long as the other people involved are not actively sabotaging them.

[Anonymous No.]

dookiebird is a turd

[Anonymous No.]

>>70472576
>Vtuber Jesus
Actually, it's Kson

[Anonymous No.]

>>70473787
It will be awkward not because of that but because most 2 view indies are awkward as fuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>70473961
Kson is a slut and that's a good thing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70472576
Sayu collab. Let's goooooooo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70472576
Someone should put Sayu in this, just for the meme.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70472807
>the normal reaction was to bully her
The NDF has dropped all pretenses that bullying never happened now, eh? The desperation is as palpable as Nijisanji's imminent collapse.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70473787
It’s just her stroking her own ego and acting like she’s currently popular as a result of talent and not because people are trying to stick it to a company by giving her their money.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70473633
>>70474063
>>70474111
>Sayu
qrd on the drama?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70473942
>>/vt/?task=search&ghost=false&search_text=dookiebird+is+a+turd
Stop it, get some help.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70474176
Well it's going to a better cause than all of the seething nijiEN is doing

[Anonymous No.]

I want her to collab with Mikeneko

[Anonymous No.]

>>70474226
Total dramawhore who tried to make Selen's termination all about herself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70474226
Nothing at all, Sayu just said she doesn't like collab for clout and she prefers to collab with friends instead of "work related" colleagues

[Anonymous No.]

>>70474226
She got the Selen treatment by Nijisanji a year prior. Almost all the charges are trumped up, unsurprisingly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70474111
>>70474226
NO. I have a better idea. Alao stop dragging Sayu into this, let her stream in peace please.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70474337
Get the fuck out of here, Nijisister

[Anonymous No.]

>>70472576
she was already like that in nijisanji

[Anonymous No.]

>>70473787
Either it's going to be a fake indie, in which case it was just a scam. Or it'll be some completely obscure nobody with a hyper-obsessed whale. And if that indie already has that fan, they probably hate themselves or have learned how to deal with a lunatic's attention enough to take advantage of this chance.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70474176
So true sister

[Anonymous No.]

>>70474176
That's right, the average dramafag is still sticking with her a month after it happened.
Anyways what was Sayu's viewership like again?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70472576
INVITE ME TO THE COLLAB BITCH
THEN LETS STREAM YOUR LIVE SUICIDE STREAM
$500 SEEMS WORTH IT

[Anonymous No.]

>>70473961
seethe more nijizhang

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>>70474450
Honestly, considering she's already milking the Nijisanji drama with her latest videos after lawyerman went viral reviewing her case, she should just take it. She will get more exposure, more subs, more views, and it will be a feel good moment for the audience. It's a great PR move that literally can't go wrong.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70475017
Sayu doesn't like Dokibird. Say doesn't like drama. Leave her the fuck alone from your dramafags ass.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70472576
>nobody saying it's fake
wait this is actually real?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70475017
>shes milking it
fuck off faggot
Literally has 12+ hour streams and you clipwatchers jerk yourself off on 2 minute clips after she was pestered by randos that werent even fucking subbed to her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70475208
yes

[Anonymous No.]

>>70475208
The piece of paper is still winning.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70475166
Sayu has never said she doesn't like doki. She doesn't like little dramafaggots like you pestering her constantly

[Anonymous No.]

>>70475208
https://tiltify.com/@dokibird/auctions/dokicharity2024
She's no better than an average prostitute

[Anonymous No.]

>>70475404
>t.assblasted Nijinig

[Anonymous No.]

>>70475166
>Sayu doesn't like drama
>Friends consist of dramatubers
Yea, I’m sure she just absolutely hates drama

[Anonymous No.]

>>70472576
Because she "died" and resurrected after 3 weeks

[Anonymous No.]

>>70475166
Sayu doesn't like drama. She's fine with Doki.
Either way, leave her out of this for now.

[Anonymous No.]

Rosemi is streaming. The betrayal is complete. We are unstoppable

[Anonymous No.]

>>70475694
I very much doubt she knew this was still going on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70474831
Gee, I wonder who could be behind this post...

[Anonymous No.]

>>70472807
We finally got to the “she deserved” stage of the narcissist creed

[Anonymous No.]

>>70475404
Are you being sarcastic or are you just mentally unhinged?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70473541
NTA, but why can't it be both?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70473961
Кcoн этo дeвa мapия.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70475404
What percentage of the proceeds does she get to pocket?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70475948
It can be. But he said "only".

[Anonymous No.]

>>70476052
Zero. Tiltify handles everything, she won't even see that money.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70472576
Why are you still seething?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70474450
I nearly forgot how fucking ugly this design was

[Anonymous No.]

>>70476484
Because even Livers reached their limits in refusing to commit to streamsniping a charity stream, so instead the NDF dogs are unleashed when they expect Dragoons to be too busy watching her stream to defend her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70473506
It's an auction, so that means it's however much people think she is good.

[Anonymous No.]

>doki doesn't realize that people only watch her because of drama and whiteknightery
>hopeful indie gets to collab with her
>none of doki's viewers actually gives a shit
>indie walks away with 0 gains
>loses all self confidence because they think they simply suck and have appeal
oof

[Anonymous No.]

>>70473506
Pay? She's not getting the money, sister. It goes straight to charity.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70475017
Lying is bad, child.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70477266
Cool fan fic, post it on Facebook please so I can share

[Anonymous No.]

imagine having pity collab because someone won an auction.
What a silly concept, she could do literally anything else with similar results.

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>>70472576
Man, from her post about "if you want to know what it takes to be a vtuber talk to me, I'll do a stream about it!" to already doing a charity stream not even a month after you come back? Her ego is the size of a galaxy right now. She needs to reign it in. You aren't vtuber jesus Dokishill.

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>>70473506
It's charity money, you fucking faggot

[Anonymous No.]

>>70473787
I wish my mom had cared enough about me to notice I wanted to hang out with other kids.

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>>70473506
Just read the description. It's pure ego. I'm beginning to think that she is a total schizo head case. This is actually unreal to read.

>By winning the auction, I will collab with an indie vtuber of your choice. A chance to give one of your favorite streamers a big break by collabing with me and having more eyes on them.
>Give your favorite streamer a chance to be something by collabing with ME since I'm so great and I am vtuber Jesus.
She is unhinged.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70472576
Because she actually is

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>>70473052
what makes this even more hilarious is that she even has her own judas that she was betrayed by

[Anonymous No.]

>>70477816
Where's the lie, nijisister? A Doki collab would get a lot of eyes on any given 1view, 2view, 3view, and low 4view indie shitter. She's just telling the truth.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70477816
It would be just humiliating, it's very unlikely the viewer retention is going to be very significant but you are left with the label that your current viewership is all thanks to Doki.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70477816
She's quite literally the most successful EN vtubber right now. Even if your silly theory claiming her ego is out of control, she ain't lying and I respect that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70472576
power
trip

[Anonymous No.]

>>70478178
It's pure narcissism. If Kiara came out and said "I will collab with your favorite small 2 view streamers so they can bask in my greatness and actually get views for the first time" she would get absolutely slaughtered on here. However, since it's Dokishill and everybody is blinded by their hatred for Niji she gets a pass. It's disgusting behavior.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70477413
>has platform with many eyes on
>uses it to help smaller streamers and charities
>while also helping herself
I say let her cook.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70473506
It's an auction, so the price is not determined by her.
She also gets NONE of the money.
Try harder!

[Anonymous No.]

>>70478211
>She's quite literally the most successful EN vtuber right now
This isn't true anymore. A lot of the dramafags have left her streams and she routinely gets less views than Gura, Mumei, Fauna, IRyS, FWMC, Biboo, etc.

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>>70478283
>If Kiara came out and said "I will collab with your favorite small 2 view streamers so they can bask in my greatness and actually get views for the first time" she would get absolutely slaughtered on here
what alternative reality do you live in?
this board would be sucking her dick enough to wilt it

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>>70478484
retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>70478283
>>70478178
>>70477816
Can you explain to me how it's selfish to give someone more views, and also get zero profit from it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70478449
She's still hitting >10k CCV on the reg. She'll settle into 4-6k in time, so better to do this

[Anonymous No.]

>>70478533
i think you misunderstand how kiara is perceived nowadays
it ain't 2020 anymore

[Anonymous No.]

>>70478569
I can't tell if you are retarded or if you are larping. Just read her description idiot. It's a pure ego stroke.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70478283
Who here would be mad at Kiara?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70472576
She's got that Kson syndrome.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70478178
...Isn't this literally the case sisters are trying to use against doki?
>YOU DIDN'T EARN ANYTHING OTHER THAN GETTING LUCKY BY GETTING EYES ON YOU FROM NIJISANJI
She's trying to pass it on. It's worded funny but it's consistent with her mindset and past actions.
I know it's hard to imagine somebody actually making a decision for the sake of others, but people like this actually exist outside of China, sister.

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>>70478283
>It's pure narcissism.
lol no it isn't, you retarded seething Kurosanji intern. Doki is being selfless by offering to promote some small indie vtuber and give them a big break. She'll be using her own fame to help someone else. That's the opposite of narcissism. Would you rather she used her fame solely for her own benefit? That would be actual narcissism.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70472576
Hi Enna

[Anonymous No.]

It went to her head lmfao

[Anonymous No.]

>>70477413
Literally the reason why this charity was made this early is because she wants to do something good with all the attention on her

[Anonymous No.]

>>70478727
>It's a pure ego stroke.
Except it isn't and you're trying to push a false narrative.

[Anonymous No.]

insane that 3/4 of the replies on here are from the same person

[Anonymous No.]

I have to say, trying to size her up as a narcissist is pretty sad, speaking as someone who's had to deal with an actual narcissist. This isn't even close to that sort of behavior.

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>>70478727
Got it, so giving more views to an indie is bad. Understood.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70479116
they've been making a different flavor of this same thread and then samefagging it the same way for weeks now

[Anonymous No.]

>>70479234
I see you didn't read the description. Good to know.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70479234
The other day they were seething that collabing with Piapi wasn't good enough because she didn't collab with a "real 2view"

[Anonymous No.]

>>70472576
>Trying to help the community instead of shitting it up like Nijisanji has done for years
Get your analogies right. If anything she's Vtuber Paul the Apostle.

[Anonymous No.]

the wording is bad but the intentions are good, and she doesn't even get anything from this, I don't really get why they hate her so much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70479374
Everyone read the description. That's how everyone knows you're full of shit.

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>>70472576
>Selen grows in popularity
>Her talent and popularity eclipses that of the clique who wanted to make sure to stay at the top of the company
>As a result she gets exiled and harassed
>Her eventual termination results in a public execution meant to tarnish her image to the masses and reinforce the power of the company
Resurrection
>She came back days after her execution
>Her popularity and presence were revived by those who believed in her
>Her story earned her the sympathy of many from different walks of life and all kinds of people, not just the ones who are aware of VTubers
>Her crucifixion at the hands of her oppressors only strengthened her image and is now a symbol of hope for those in similar situations
Yeah, Dokibird is the christ of Vtubers

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>>70477413
>One of the most successful EN talents outside of Holomyth
>Practically carried herself to the top
>Kurosanji debuff
>Elira debuff
>Doing charity stream to create positive effect in spite of the negativity
>Wants to help smaller vtubers
She's the closest we have to EN Vtuber Jesus.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70479528
I mean... lot of them already hated her even when she was Selen, /NijiEN/fags hated her except when she did big events.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70479528
They're mad because she just broke Vox's 120k a few hours in after screeching that he'd mog her charity.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70472576
It's Kson all over again, lol. Kson did the same shit and now she is a laughing stock.

[Anonymous No.]

So, where does that leave Kson?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70479528
>I don't really get why they hate her so much
nijiEN tanked their reputation in a failed attempt to smear her. they're in too deep to go back on it at this point

[Anonymous No.]

>>70479738
>Practically carried herself to the top
Kek, you don't actually believe this do you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70479828
>Kson
Keep Kson's name out of your femcel mouth Nijinigger

[Anonymous No.]

>>70479528
>I don't really get why they hate her so much.
Nijisisters despise Doki because all of her actions are good. They desperately need her to be a terrible person in order to justify their false narrative but she isn't. That's why they're furiously trying to pretend like a charity stream and promoting a small indie is a bad thing. She could save a child from a burning car and they'd say "OH MY GOD WHAT A NARCISSIST".

[Anonymous No.]

Reminder Enna lost to a piece of paper kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>70480100
>She could save a child from a burning car and they'd say "OH MY GOD WHAT A NARCISSIST"
virtue signalling bitch saved that kid just to show off. her ego is just massive right now, she thinks she's vtuber jesus

[Anonymous No.]

>>70480158
>tried to streamsnipe the charity stream
>didn't even make 1/3rd of of the viewership
>got mogged by a piece of paper
>will be overtaken by doki in subs next week
TOTAL ENNA DEATH

[Anonymous No.]

>>70480100
>her actions are good
She has already done male collabs. Zero tolerance for that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70478727
You didn't answer the question, sister. Be better.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70480495
So true sister, preach it!

[Anonymous No.]

>>70472576
What? It's for charity. It's not that serious. Have you never seen one of those "bid on dating this person" for charity? They're just random people donating their time for a cause, they don't think highly of themselves. Oh wait, that takes place outside, beyond your computer screen, so you wouldn't know anything about that.

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>>70480643
Because you are being disingenuous and are arguing in bad faith. "Collab with me and get views!! I'm so great and you are a lowly peon!! I will save you!!". You tell me what that sounds like? It's a total ego stroke.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70480933

we did. You're ignoring it.
>>70478852

[Anonymous No.]

>>70480933
You keep repeating that as if it means something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70480495
Kek. Doki's the only vtuber on this entire fucking planet that I'm willing to overlook male collabs for. She's doing too much good and the havoc she's causing for Kurosanji is too goddamn funny. I can't even be mad at her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70473329
Legal Mindset to spite everyone

[Anonymous No.]

>>70480933
>It's a total ego stroke.
Actually it isn't an ego stroke whatsoever. Doki is getting a shitload of attention right now. True or false? True. Sharing that attention with a struggling indie would benefit that indie. True or false? True. So there's absolutely nothing wrong with Doki's statement. It's completely factual. And you are an assmad Kurosanji shill.

[Anonymous No.]

Nijisisters need to learn that jealousy is the most ugly trait for a woman to have. You will never be loved if you femcels keep this behavior up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70481404
This would actually be super funny.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70481676
Not even a woman, I just think Dookie has it a little too good and has a meeting with a noose she has been putting off for far too long.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70481980
Female hands typed this post.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70481980
You are 100% a woman and you are howling with jealousy lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>70481980
YWABAW.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70481980
>was driven to almost end herself TWICE
>has it a little too good
Naninaninaninaninani??????????????

[Anonymous No.]

>>70472576
Doki without restrictions is a content-creating machine.
Nijisanji's failures were not because they lacked talent.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70473329
Elira, Enna, and Millie. The game will be Uno.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70482222
>almost end herself TWICE
You actually believe those stories? I have a bridge to sell you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70480158
KEK

[Anonymous No.]

>>70482222
She should have actually died. I have been waiting for a vtuber killing themselves on stream for so long and this bitch dares to deprive me of my amusement, TWICE?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70482466
>I have a bridge to sell you.
Like you own anything worth of value femcel

[Anonymous No.]

>>70472576
BPDs are very manipulative but they always let the mask slip eventually.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70482565
I don't think any big company chuuba would get away with this. You should be looking at depressed indies instead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70482565
So why don't you become the first Vtuber who does, nigger.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70472576
For the love of God, someone be a Chad and have her stream with Ethan Ralph

[Anonymous No.]

>>70482692
>2 more weeks sister

[Anonymous No.]

>>70472576
What kind of retard would want to collab with her because someone else paid her to do it? Seems kind of disrespectful

[Anonymous No.]

It's funny to me that everybody is totally blinded by their hatred for Niji that they can't see what a manipulative attention whore Doki is being.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70483412
Try harder sis

[Anonymous No.]

>>70472576
>Doing stuff like this after not even being back for a month
Kek, you can take the talent out of Niji but you can't take the Niji out of the talent. Shameless behavior.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70483911
Why are you samefagging? The number of posters didn't go up. Get a life stupid bitch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70482441
>>70473382
My favorite indie vtuber Elira pendora

[Anonymous No.]

>>70474383
Was she the one who got worked into a shoot by posts /here/ that she admitted to having a husband?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70484474
Soon she will be one

[Anonymous No.]

>>70485278
I wasn't checking threads at the time, but probably. She's always been open about being married (her husband was a mod and part of the community), but they divorced around that time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70472576
do you even know the story of jesus in the bible? like, what he did, how he died, what he did after he died?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70486348
OP probably is an atheist cuck so probably not

[Anonymous No.]

>>70472703
Nah, I'm not a drone. Dookiefags are just really loud and obnoxious for now. I'm happy to see both of them die.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70472576
Posting this just to piss you off, it's up to $2800 now

[Anonymous No.]

>>70472576
Have another (you) faggot

[Anonymous No.]

>>70472576
She's more of a vtuber Jesus than Kson.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70472703
She's literally the Joe Biden of vtubers. No one actually likes her, they just hate her opponents so much that they worship an inept, corrupt buffoon instead out of spite.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70486861
Best keep it up. This vtubing stuff is a marathon. But I shouldn't be surprised by this annoying behavior when dookies are ex-NijiEN fans anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70477413
The best part is that I guarantee like most charities, most of that money is going to board members.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70474137
not at all. Just that "bullying" by Selen standards is "normal human banter" by regular people standards. She can dish it out but can't take it, she razzed people all the time but gets the rope out when its turned back on her, like all cowardly menhera do for pity and attention.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70474822
Sayu didn't pretend to kill herself twice and go on a grifting tour to scam people with endless pity parties, dramaniggering, and tourist baiting. Sayu I actually have respect for.

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>>70487113

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>>70473961
>>70479828
rather she laughs at your black company.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70487080
I can't wait until the next time she has controversy in her life its time for attempt #3 and it ends up successful. Think about wasting thousands and thousands of dollars on this human garbage who won't even be around much longer. Even if by some miracle she can control herself, the endless drama and stress will get to her and she'll just retire with her mountain of pity cash in a year.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70487593
Nice coping fanfiction

[Anonymous No.]

>>70487080
>But I shouldn't be surprised by this annoying behavior when dookies are ex-NijiEN fans anyway.
Based retard

[Anonymous No.]

she just hit $90k just from donations! well done everyone that supported the charity.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70487593
She'll cry in a yatch while your oshis crying on the street kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>70488206
Based

[Anonymous No.]

>>70482204
Kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>70488206
nigga you're late its already 100k

[Anonymous No.]

>>70472576
So... what happens if the indie says no?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70488660
Anon you are retarded and don't know how time works.

[Anonymous No.]

If you count the auction money + donation money pretty much she beat Vox's charity stream...

[Anonymous No.]

>>70488858
You suggest another one

[Anonymous No.]

>>70488858

[Anonymous No.]

>>70488858
Go with the winner's second choice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70487593
you're going to die angry, alone and unloved lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>70472576
Fuck off Nijisisters it's never going to work. Go back to your doxxsite and your delusions.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70473506
It's for a charity auction you fucking sperg. She just raised over $100k for charity in a couple of hours. Nijisisters Seethe

[Anonymous No.]

>mogs the entirety of NijiEN in your path

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>70487400
>BBB
You literally pay them for your good ratings lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>70476052
It's all done through tiltify so she never even touches the money it all goes to the charity. Thats the whole point of tiltify.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70489396
DON'T LOOK UKI, IT'S WHITE

[Anonymous No.]

>>70486964
I supported her at first but it became clear pretty quick that she's just as shitty and mentally unstable as her opponents. But I'm beginning to hate her more because her "fans" are really goddamn annoying.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70489671
AAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIEEEEEEEE

[Anonymous No.]

>>70472576
She's a 5vu right now.
So yeah. She actually is a big deal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70472576
>indie
Shame because I would pay 10k to put her in a position to have to reach out to Pippa to collab.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70477816
Its a fucking fun goal for a charity stream. She doesn't get any of the money. before you try to say she's pocketing the money it's all done through tiltify so she never even touches the money. Nijisisters constantly seething is getting old now, time to move on.

[Anonymous No.]

Today was a good day

[Anonymous No.]

>>70478449
She's still getting like 12k per stream. only Gura is beating that. Nobody was ever saying she would beat Gura lmfao.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70478727
It's a auction item for a fucking charity stream you sperg. She knows people will pay to see her colab with their other oshi.

[Anonymous No.]

You stupid spergcels do NOT criticize the saintly, divine, and dare I say better and holier than Jesus Dokibird!

[Anonymous No.]

>>70489671
KEKAROO

[Anonymous No.]

>>70489986
doki and dragoons won

[Anonymous No.]

i want her to collab with Elira

[Anonymous No.]

>>70472576
because sayu were john the baptist.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70491193
Already happened. And in fact, she had the whole clique with her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70489986

[Anonymous No.]

>>70475404
Enna, your jealousy is showing... Sigh...

[Anonymous No.]

>>70477266
>sister then proceeds to watch Elira put on strap-on to raw dog Vox for 10 days

[Anonymous No.]

>>70479374
Smells of Voxretardism. Sigh... sister you cannot repeat the same sentence again and again and expect to get a different outcome...

[Anonymous No.]

>>70489680
>as her opponents
Uh what? Doki is moving on. Is that you, Reimu? Lying out of your ass? "I supported her at first" kek
You're a vile bitch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70472807
NDF has been listening to Enna again who got too lazy to keep up public lies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70482565
Rumao sisters lost every argument so you have to stoop this low. It is comical how unintelligent and mind-broken sisters are when faced with facts and reality...

[Anonymous No.]

>>70472576
Where the savior fag anon..?
You can help your chuba right now...
Just join this bid...

[Anonymous No.]

>>70473506
Charity? Do sisters really not understand this word?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70482565
>on stream
Being a retard isnt edginess plus an hero shit happened here 2005-6

[Anonymous No.]

>>70487593
Well good thing for you is Karma is fucking real. What you wish on others, will eventually happen to you so i sure hope you are healthy, sis. Cannot imagine how dogshit of a life you have to harness all this whorish energy. Better off being more useful for humanity if you stop typing and selling your body ^^.

[Anonymous No.]

>ITT nijiniggers finally reached the final part of their deluded mantra

[Anonymous No.]

>>70483412
She's a good streamer, give the viewers the tools to express what they want to do, and thats shit on Niji indirectly by being a better person.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70487254
You only respected her when she was a dog bring beaten to the curb. You honestly don't like the fact she is successful either since leaving.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70487593
You do know how the internet works right? Wishing bad things on good people will eventually cause bad luck to manifest in your own life. My condolences shit poster anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70474571
Jealous Enna?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70489680
Same monkey hands typed about envy and bpd earlier in thread. Sister is running out of ideas. RUMAO.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70478449
>Gura
Doesn't stream
>Mumei
Karaokes and outfit reveals don't count
>Fauna
Karaokes and outfit reveals don't count
>IRyS
*Taps the sign again*
>FWMC
Botted
>Biboo
Botted
Holy falseflag tho cause again this doki vs holoEN narrative is being pushed by delulu schitzo Nijisisters

[Anonymous No.]

>>70493333
Damn

[Anonymous No.]

>>70493414
projecting much? I subbed and watch her fairly often now, I hated niji for what they did to her, but I like niji for what they did to Selen. So now I'm niji-neutral

[Anonymous No.]

>>70487139
Get help, if you can't even discern playful banter on stream and bullying behind people's backs it's a you problem.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70493767
Eww... a bully clique supporter

[Anonymous No.]

>>70489961
are you retarded? sure the charity money goes to whatever, but she makes bank off sympathy bucks from tourists and xitter dramafags seeing how amazing and pure and kind she is. This is a grift like all her other grifts

[Anonymous No.]

>>70493767
As neutral as the doxxsister post victimblaming Doki while putting Kurosanji in good light. Shut your whore mouth. You double faced Vox Rape ASMR listening prostitute.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70493804
there's no such thing as 'bullying' when you're a fucking adult. boo fucking hoo not everyone likes me! who gives a shit? do your job and shut up. You dont need to do 897987 special snowflake vanity projects, just stream like everyone else

[Anonymous No.]

>>70493972
I do hate Doki, she lied and backstabbed for profit, the whole thing was a scam from the start. But no, I dont watch Vox, I've never watched Vox, I hate male chuubas with every fiber of my being that isn't devoted to hating Doki

[Anonymous No.]

>>70494059
Dick sucking ASMR enjoying hands typed your post sis

[Anonymous No.]

>>70494059
>she lied and backstabbed for profit
Do Nijikeks really?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70493300
Unfortunately in terms of probability the chances are higher than not that she will attempt again sometime in the future. Mental illness does not disappear overnight and the psychological burden is greater with more attention and more scrutiny on larger public figures.

Doki is a running a high right now, but if she does really have BPD, at some point her mental state will crash again and the lows will be even more intense.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70494059
>report herself
Lmao nice try sister

[Anonymous No.]

>>70475546
You wouldn't know because you clearly have no friends but people can be friends regardless of the content they make due to how they treat you at your lowest point in life

[Anonymous No.]

>>70493992
Having your projects repeatedly fucked with by a retarded schitzo clique acting as unofficial management, And having the constant pressure of not belonging or having all your work constantly invalidated isn't the same as schoolyard noogies and being shoved into lockers sis, But i'm sure you are VERY familiar with the latter

[Anonymous No.]

>>70493992
When people talk about workplace bullying/harassment they literally mean other employees preventing you from doing your job. Fucking underagedb& doesn't even know what she's talking about.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70472576
She's more of a Moses to Sayu's Jesus. The two big figures in the NijiBible

[Anonymous No.]

>>70494132
Armchair psychology schitzos really are something else
>MUH BPD MUH BPD MUH BPD MUH BPD
Neck yourselves seriously

[Anonymous No.]

>>70494208
Don't bother, it's an underaged SEA creature that can't comprehend the concept of workplace harassment.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70472576
>she made milestones up to 500k
>barely gets 500
OH NO NO NO DOOKIETURDS

[Anonymous No.]

>>70494386
>This one item on the auction was all the money that was raised
Congratulations!, You just made the most retarded post in this entire thread!, Here is your special prize! (You)

[Anonymous No.]

>>70477816
>Has unprecedented levels of exposure right now because of luck
>Immediately starts giving back to charities and the industry at large instead of keeping it like almost everyone else would
>"She's a lying evil narc!"
I hope you understand sister that all your retardation is doing is giving doki more power and more money by making her white knights more motivated.
She's always done shit like this, giving without asking for anything in return.
If anything this is a symptom of the exact opposite of narcissism and shows she doesn't believe she deserves to keep what she gains.

one last thing sister. if you ever hear a lofi mix bgm in your nijishitters stream and they're pre-illuna please remember that selen tatsuki is the reason it exists. enjoy your seethe.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70493767
>>70494059
>I subbed and watch her fairly often now.
>I do hate Doki
Sister forgot that she was playing 5 different charcters in same thread due to overdose of Rape ASMR from Vox... I do hope this charity finds a cure for you, I truly do.

[sage No.]

>>70472576
These bait threads are honestly just getting pathetic at this point.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70472576
>collab fees
>male collabs spam
>drama farming
Once a liver(human organ) always a liver(human organ)

[Anonymous No.]

>>70494732
>Has unprecedented levels of exposure right now because of luck
And it's decreasing by the day. Her viewership keeps going lower and lower. That is what happens when you foster your audience over drama. The don't stick around.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70494132
Unfortunately using more words does not make your stories become true. You can believe whatever you want to believe if you keep ignoring reality. Good things will happen to good people and bad things will happen to bad people. The fact that you keep bringing up attempt and BPD means that you might actually be thinking of doing it. Hope you can get all the help you can get.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70473329
NijiEN

[Anonymous No.]

>>70495051
nta no fucking way this person is over the age of 18

[Anonymous No.]

>>70493749
>>Fauna
>Karaokes and outfit reveals don't count
What? She streams games all the time. All of her streams this year had 10k+, no bots.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70495102
>Good things will happen to good people and bad things will happen to bad people.
I'm sorry anon but Santa Claus doesn't exist.

BPD has the highest suicide rate of all mental illnesses. Of course, this doesn't mean that doki is guaranteed to attempt again (not everyone with breast cancer will die from it), it's just that the odds are stacked against her from a epidemiologic perspective.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70494748
>bait

[Anonymous No.]

>>70494732
>by making her white knights more motivated.
NTA maybe you all shouldn't have called the whole situation a fucking nothingburger back in December. :)

[Anonymous No.]

>>70489961
>tiltify
I misread that as tittify and now I just wanna see some Doki tits

[Anonymous No.]

>>70480495
Unicorns are not real.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70494784
>collab fees
you're an idiot. this was an item at for a charity auction not a fucking collab fee. It's to raise money for charity.
>Drama farming
She has barely even talked about the drama on stream outside of one or two times vaguely. All the drama farming comes from Nijisisters...

[Anonymous No.]

>>70472576
Only /vt/ could try to turn a charity event into something sinister.
You people should be forced to take your meds.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70489671
Alright that one got a chuckle out of me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70472576
To be honest, I'd have this kind of complex too if I decided to be a self-righteous prick and got a bunch of other self-righteous pricks to throw their money at me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70495973
I'm trying to be optimistic here. I can understand farming 'you's - I can't understand the clinical retardation required for someone to honestly post this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70494386
Are you actually this stupid? The auction is still going. By the end of the first 5 hours on the stream she had raised over 100k just in donations, the acution has raised another almost 90k already. Raised 200k in a few hours.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70496396
It's not even /vt/ it's 100% sisters from the other site.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70472576
Because Niji tried to publicly crucify her and she rose again in subscribers from a dead account.
And then Elira publicly hanged herself from the tree of the Black Stream, a la Judas.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70494386
Lol. Nijisanji always had the reputation for having the most immoral retards, but after their latest fuckup only the most foolish and corrupt remain.
As seen here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70494386
You are the dumbest fucking cunt I've seen all week and I saw a complete retard on /vrpg/ the other day.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70473052
You could make a religion out of this

[Anonymous No.]

>>70489961
>She's not getting paid

You delusional retards, that doesn't matter. The point is that she thinks getting her to collab with someone is a great gift that would immediately propel someone to success. Literally calling it a "big break". That's just clearly being a egotistical bitch

>But is she wrong?
Doesn't matter. Imagine if a director held an auction online so people could give their favorite actor a "big break" by getting the actor to star in his movie. You would think the director is so far up his own ass, he'd disappear. The only reason no one is calling her out for it is because she's pity farming and anyone that calls her out gets crucified

[Anonymous No.]

>>70498149
If a 1 view or a 2 view is exposed to a 4 view audience, if even a small fraction of that audience likes them enough to give them a try for a stream or two that is massive for them. It would be a "big break".

[Anonymous No.]

>>70475404
>private 1-1 gaming session
>5k dollars
she's no average hoe

[Anonymous No.]

>>70498354
Did you not read anything that was said? It doesn't matter how justified her ego is, the fact that she's saying her collabing with someone is "a big break" proves her head is inflated. No one with a moderate amount of pride says this about themselves. It's essentially taking credit for making someone "famous" in advance.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70472576
>Dokibird goes thru hels
>Dokibird then dose a single charity stream.
>"Why does she think that she's Vtuber Jesus?"
Holy fuck, Nijistans, just log the fuck off if you don't have anything to actually say,

[Anonymous No.]

>>70476844
>Refusing to stream snipe charity
>Enna has 7 hour pity party zatsu at the exact same time
Sorry anon, There is no bottom to the barrel Niji organs are scraping

[Anonymous No.]

>>70498655
Not the anon you're replying to, just wanted to say that you are making this into a nothingburger. There is no harm being done here so why are you being such a bitch about this. Cope.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70498655
So let me ask you, when celebrities ask for money to attend conventions or for signatures, and they charge more than the person next to them, why do you think that is?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70494208
>retarded schitzo clique acting as unofficial management,
Being an unironic GURrat believer "self reports" you as a retard
>having the constant pressure of not belonging
So having your feelings hurt because no one talks to you much or doesn't take you seriously is bullying now. Apparently this is an adult way of thinking and not being an overly emotional dumbass

[Anonymous No.]

>>70498655
>doesn't matter how justified
>her head is inflated
This is a bad faith argument and you should feel ashamed of yourself for making it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70499001 (me)
Or, even better, why do larger celebrities charge more for taking on ad campaigns than smaller ones?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70472576
I really don't get the scandal you NDF faggots are trying to push here. It's a charity, so you can't call her greedy, unless it's in the Completionist tradition. And given as how she's usually getting 10k+ ccv right now, that's a neat prize that she's one of very few people capable of offering right now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70498655
>>70498960
Also, to add to my point it's literally a fan recommendation no one is being forced to collab here. The fan tells Doki "Hey try asking -blank- if they want to collab." that's it. Shut up retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70499047
The only "Self Report" here is you self reporting as a SEAMonkey

[Anonymous No.]

>>70498655
Fuck off sister.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70499001
Great false equivalence. A celebrity selling a message with their signature on it to fans isn't the same as a celebrity selling a conversation with another celebrity solely for the purpose of making the other celebrity famous and giving them "a big break". Now people will constantly say that whatever streamer gets selected, they didn't get famous on their own merit. Instead what they'll hear is "Doki literally made you" and she'd agree

[Anonymous No.]

>>70474383
I feel really stupid for not taking Zaion's claims seriously a year ago.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70499320
Cope faggot you have no point to make.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70499047
Stop it, Reimu. We lost. Stop fighting. Let's go back to try rebuilding nijisanjiEN and leave them alone with their bubbles. It's not worth the effort wasting your time over here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70499320
The convention pays for them because they will attract more people to the convention - they will put more eyes on it.

>Instead what they'll hear is "Doki literally made you" and she'd agree
You don't get made from a good advertisement, an advertisement still needs to point to a product people want. But if the product is good and people don't know about it, buying an ad is a smart decision that usually works.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70499210
It's a very smart way to keep herself relevant and in the headlines as long as possible. By doing a charity for mental health as opposed to a different issue like feeding poor children, the drama is alive and well regarding her suicide attempts and mental illness (and how Niji caused it)

[Anonymous No.]

>>70499047
>underaged SEAmonkey still can't comprehend workplace harassment

[Anonymous No.]

>>70499116
Acting like a celebrity wouldn't get called an asshole with an inflated ego if they started to auction conversations with them since they believe talking to them on camera would give them "a big break" is a bad faith argument. She is treating a collab with her like it's a gift. Kanye West has a big ego and said he made people famous but he never did shit like this

[Anonymous No.]

>>70499704
Some celebrities DO auction time with them, especially for charity. It never hurts their reputation.

[Anonymous No.]

>This is what Nijisisters are mad at

[Anonymous No.]

>>70499810
SHAMEFUL MENHERA TOMATO RUINED INNOCENT FARMERS!!!!!!!!!

[Anonymous No.]

Why are the sisters even /here/? I could understand the strategy if they were just trying to get doki to an hero via bullying her, but doki is not /here/. She's barely even on twitter once she started talking to a therapist. Who is this /vt/ astroturf campaign even supposed to be targeted at?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70499320
Do you understand how common it is for companies to hire celebrities to do commercials for them? This is even more innocuous than that. A fan of a 1view wants to donate to charity in an attempt to signal boost their oshi. That's it. This is the thing you are crying about. A fan of a literal who wants to help their oshi grow. The chuuba doesn't even have to accept the collab. They are all adults and can make their own choices. This might come as a shock, but most people are not gossiping cunts that talk shit about another person's success behind their backs. The only people that would be saying "she's only popular because of Doki" are the ones that would say "Doki is only popular because Nijisanji". And those people, yourself included, don't fucking matter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70500054
Normalfag spheres like leddit and xitter hate them. They have no place there outside of their echo chamber bubbles, so this is ironically the only place they have left.
Some of the livers are probably still pissed and are talking shit /here/ too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70499704
You know who does charge money to help make vtubers famous? Nijisanji. They take most of your income for an entire year in return for signal boosting your career. And then they take your reputation when you leave.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70499532
>The convention pays for them because they will attract more people to the convention - they will put more eyes on it.

You know the convention is approaching these people and asking them, not the other way around, right? A celebrity would get shit on if they approached a convention and told them their presence at the convention is a gift and a big break.

>You don't get made from a good advertisement, an advertisement still needs to point to a product people want. But if the product is good and people don't know about it, buying an ad is a smart decision that usually works.
You don't know how important marketing is, it is literally how people get famous. Doki isn't acting like she's going to advertise their channel either, she's saying their presence in her stream is a gift.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70500054
Nijisisters ran out of normalfag space to go to. They get shit on every other social media site. This means they're stuck here on 4chan(and the doxxsite).

[Anonymous No.]

>>70495945
Of course the person who has BPD would know every single thing about how it works. You sure knos everything about BPD and totally not sourcing it out of your swollen ass from taking all the NDF cocks. In case you attempt yourself due to all the mean words online, i hope you get to listen to Vox Rape Asmr one last time before you go sister.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70500267
Cry more about it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70500267
Cope

[Anonymous No.]

>>70500237
Another false equivalence. Nijisanji is a corporation that produces models, makes events, produces and markets merch, produces and markets voice packs, gains and deals with advertisers plus sponsors and trains people. Doki isn't doing any of that except just allowing someone to be on her stream. Anyone who says Nijisanji made someone's career is rightfully shit on. Where is the same attitude to Doki blatantly admitting to thinking this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70500054
Sisters either get downvoted on reddit or community noted on twitter so the only place is here and doxxsite. They are also too poor to hire actual streamers to fight for the cause so they are probably seething. They think making noise online will help Vox come back to stream, but it is only feeding into more flames when he eventually return.

[Anonymous No.]

This is your chance Elira! If you graduate RIGHT FUCKING NOW, you can use all your Nijibucks to force your way onto a stream with Dokibird and combat all her lies live in front of a massive audience.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70500652
>makes events
Cancels events
>produces and markets merch,
That talents make next to nothing on.
>produces and markets voice packs
It is trivially easy for indies to do this.
>gains and deals with advertisers plus sponsors
Only if you are friends with the popular girl.
Njisanji is a corporation that forces talents to pay for their own debuts which leaves them in the red even by the time the next wave debuts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70472576
What are the nijisisters mad at Doki for now? Let's see
>upselling and promoting a charity auction
Seriously? Could you not have found some random word you could twist into a slur or something? At least pretend to be actually offended?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70500652
>Niji doing or funding something
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Good one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70500878
>Cancels events
The ones they make and are paying for?
>That talents make next to nothing on
They get a profit for basically just saying yes to Nijisanji making shit for them.
>It is trivially easy for indies to do this
I've yet to see any indie actually consistently do voice packs
>Only if you are friends with the popular girl. Njisanji is a corporation that forces talents to pay for their own debuts which leaves them in the red even by the time the next wave debuts.
Explain why Krisis, Sonny, Meloco, Doppio and Maria are a part of sponsored collabs then. The existence of a debut video is entirely on the member. Shu's debut was fucking made in MS paint

[Anonymous No.]

>>70499416
Yeah you are a retarded nigger

[Anonymous No.]

>>70483412
Jfc anon she’s a vtuber. They’re all unapologetic attention whores

[Anonymous No.]

>>70501466
Niji literally does not make nor pay for events. This has been confirmed several times. Organ funds are not niji funds, despite the way Niji happily spends them. Would not be surprised if Niji deliberately hires the wealthiest chinks they can find so they can scam them into investing into their new vtuber persona, which they don't own. (There's a fuckload of wealthy chink expat business families that don't live in China so the CCP can't just abduct them on a whim.)
No need to invest into your branch if you can scam dumb chinks into doing it for you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70499773
With the express purpose of giving someone in the same career path a "big break" and making them famous? This isn't the same as winning a raffle to have lunch with Gosling

[Anonymous No.]

>>70501991
>Niji literally does not make nor pay for events
You know they pay for shit like concerts and lives right? Not paying for someone's cover doesn't mean they don't pay for anything

[Anonymous No.]

>>70501466
>The ones they make and are paying for?
No, the ones in countries that matter. NijiEN isn't NijiSEA. Or at least it shouldn't have been. They just chose to cheap out and host events in places with monopoly money.
>They get a profit for basically just saying yes to Nijisanji making shit for them.
Does the 2% they make from that make up for the 50% they lose from everything else? I somehow doubt it.
>I've yet to see any indie actually consistently do voice packs
Real talk: Most indies in the west are either on the twitch-culture side of things and have no interest, or are too small to be thinking about selling things. Some of them do voice packs for members though.
>Explain why Krisis, Sonny, Meloco, Doppio and Maria are a part of sponsored collabs then.
Not all sponsorships are created equally. I'll bring your attention back to an old Nikke sponsored stream where the girls had to roll with their own money to try to advertise for the new character. And didn't even manage to get them in the end. The good sponsors are always gobbled up by the same group. Even if other livers have expressed interest long before the sponsorship deal was offered.
>The existence of a debut video is entirely on the member. Shu's debut was fucking made in MS paint
For most vtubers, your debut is everything. People don't know you, and you need to catch their interest enough that they will come back. Shu unironically got lucky that Luxiem was a breakout success. If someone in the next wave does a lazy debut then they better be very fucking entertaining. Otherwise they will be the first 2view of the branch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70502259
A distinction only you care about. Might as well say you dislike it because Dokibird is doing it, at least that would be honest.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70494386
Do you not understand what a stretch goal is? The original goal was 10,000 and she beat that over 25 times over...
>>70495945
Do you even have any proof she has BPD beyond a self diagnosis on a freaking twitter bio 4 years ago?
>>70496214
https://files.catbox.moe/3mmfxs.jpg

[Anonymous No.]

>>70502540
>No, the ones in countries that matter
This is just cope
>Does the 2% they make from that make up for the 50% they lose from everything else? I somehow doubt it.
They gain 50% of their earnings after their company gets a cut. If you work in fast food, you make enough to buy a single meal from the company in an hour as you see hundreds of dollars get made in the same hour. People still at these places because they gain money and they get no cut from the overall earnings.
>Not all sponsorships are created equally.
Blame the sponsors, they're the ones choosing who to sponsor their stuff. Tell me how the Code Geass collab and perfume collab are bad sponsors. Also all gachas have sponsor people don't end up paying their rolls, they aren't casinos
>For most vtubers, your debut is everything
Debut stream? Sure, I can see it. Debut video? No one cares. I can't even remember if Krisis and TTT had debut videos

[Anonymous No.]

>>70502522
>They pay for concerts and lives!!!
>NO REFUNDS
Do they really?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70502730
>A distinction only you care about
The distinction in a fan winning a raffle to have lunch with their favorite celebrity and a famous celebrity selling their presence to less successful actors since their presence would "make them famous" is a distinction most people would care about. Any normie would find that distasteful

[Anonymous No.]

>>70503170
>Do they really?
Yes. I don't even know how them not giving refunds proves they don't pay for concerts and lives

[Anonymous No.]

>>70503378
It was cancelled because they never did the work to host it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70502790
>Do you even have any proof she has BPD beyond a self diagnosis on a freaking twitter bio 4 years ago?
Oh, so Doki has a history of lying now, especially about serious things like mental illness. No good way to look from doing that

[Anonymous No.]

>>70503378
They couldn't even bother to finish paying for the AR Live. Where's Obsydia's 3D models btw? They couldn't even get all of Lazulight working before one FUCKING QUIT.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70503138
>This is just cope
I recognize that it came off as flippant, but it's not cope. Your audience matters. Not just in terms of numbers, but also demographic. Different countries have different values. An audience having different values than the streamer is not a good thing. This is how you get Vox having to go on stream to try to explain to chinese women that it was okay for him to make a "Yo mamma" joke. It stifles the creativity of the artist, and that leads to a very stressful work environment where you are constantly walking on eggshells so as to not anger people with values entirely foreign from your own. A western branch should have a predominantly western audience. That's not to say people shouldn't like things outside of their region. But when you outnumber the "home-team" then it becomes an issue.
>They gain 50% of their earnings after their company gets a cut. If you work in fast food, you make enough to buy a single meal from the company in an hour as you see hundreds of dollars get made in the same hour. People still at these places because they gain money and they get no cut from the overall earnings.
And why is that? Could it be because joining Nijisanji signal boosts the vtuber and brings them a larger audience? Could it be that Doki is doing the very same thing WITHOUT taking 50% of non-merch earnings and 98% of merch earnings? Could it be that you have a problem with it for no discernable reason other than that Doki is the one doing it?
>Blame the sponsors, they're the ones choosing who to sponsor their stuff. Tell me how the Code Geass collab and perfume collab are bad sponsors. Also all gachas have sponsor people don't end up paying their rolls, they aren't casinos
I agree blaming the sponsors is a good take here. But it doesn't change the fact that every time a good collab comes up the same few people get in on it. Also they rolled on their own accounts, not premade accounts with 9999999 gacha bucks.
>Debut stream? Sure, I can see it. Debut video? No one cares. I can't even remember if Krisis and TTT had debut videos
Remind me again how TTT is doing right now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70503629
It's a twitter bio.. Why are you looking for serious legal or medical clarifications from a twitter bio? Are you retarded?
Wait, actually don't answer that. I already know the answer is yes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70503138
Zaion was in debt from her debut stream because of your shitty company's inability to provide her with resources. Your company doesn't provide shit other than a nametag which THEY have to fucking pay for. It's not an agency or a company. It's a fucking pyramid scheme.

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NIJISEETHE

[Anonymous No.]

>>70503322
Then I encourage you to complain about this horrible act to as many people as possible. Make sure to get the dramatubers in on it too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70503673
>A western branch should have a predominantly western audience
Disagree, every business knows it's a good idea to diversify your audience with different countries to get more people consuming your products or content. This is why so many businesses try to get both the Chinese and American audience. They have plenty of events in the US though like anime NYC.
>Could it be because joining Nijisanji signal boosts the vtuber and brings them a larger audience?
No, it's because they pay for their models, get them ads, produce things for them, organizes things for them, get sponsors for them and they operate like a talent agency. Doki is doing nothing but gracing someone with her presence and acting like it's a gift worth auctioning for. No one argues Nijisanji deserves to get a cut of the earnings because they made people famous.
>But it doesn't change the fact that every time a good collab comes up the same few people get in on it.
This is a question you should think about rationally on who is more brand friendly, popular and who's a good fit for the collab which is what sponsors think about when deciding who they choose. All gachas that sponsor people don't pay for their rolls, casinos do that and people think it's scummy
>Remind me again how TTT is doing right now
Krisis is doing fine. Claude is doing well. Kunai took a month long break immediately which stunted her growth. Vivi, I don't know but could be her game choice or maybe her mic quality

[Anonymous No.]

>>70504067
Don't need to. Look at the normie reaction when Kanye West said he made Taylor Swift famous and ironically compared herself to Jesus. They said he was up his own ass

[Anonymous No.]

>>70504424
>produce things for them, organize things for them, get sponsors for them
...No they didn't. Selen literally had to do all of that herself because the management wouldn't. That was a huge part of her termination notice, remember?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70503699
>Why are you looking for serious legal or medical clarifications from a twitter bio?
Because that's where information about somebody is coming from the person themselves? Why would someone lie about having a mental illness, what do they gain for doing that?