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>the gen that saved holoEN

>> No.71027911

literally only fuwamoco and biboo

>> No.71027935
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>> No.71027961

>>71027893
>pic unrelated

>> No.71027974

>>71027893
HoloEN didn't need any saving is the thing anon. New tourist Adventfags and monkeys from numbers don't seem to comprehend this.

>> No.71028028

>>71027974
you can't possibly be serious after mori and kronii tried to destroy it with homocollabs

>> No.71028030

Turns out when you stream consistently, people like it. Who knew. Also treating your fans as loved instead of "If you don't like it fuck off" wallets works well.

>> No.71028132

>>71027974
>half of EN checked out
>the other half having weekly tempus collabs and calling their fans incels
Lol it was fucking awful, Jap and Advent saved the branch, otherwise it was on the road to becoming niji lite

>> No.71028168

>>71027974
If Advent wasn't around there wouldn't be anything worth watching from EN at all

>> No.71028253

>>71027935
thanks for saving EN funny name man-sama

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>>71027893

>> No.71028485

>>71028030
4/5, Shiori is a grifting bitch

>> No.71028493

>>71027974
they absolute did with half of the streamers not streaming and the other half hating streaming

>> No.71028579

>>71028493
Shiori already hates streaming and is cutting down on her stream time, cutting GFE

>> No.71028713

Thank you based Advent for actually streaming. It's been the best Hololive EN's been for a long time and all it took was there actually being content to consume.

>> No.71028739

The only 5/5 gen.
>b-but _____ is ba-
No. 5/5.

>> No.71028774

>>71028485
>>71028579
you will always be a 2view failure sister, shiori will always be more successful than you :)

>> No.71028795

>>71028739
Why are you defending collabs with Twitch whores and grifters who only care about money?

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>>71028579
Shiori's entire existence is the purest form of GFE. She babbles forever about stupid shit and how horny she is for anime boys and then goes on a sperg rant about Unity for an hour.
Then she actually boots up the game.
It's great.

>> No.71028931

>>71028874
She hasn't done that in months, she lost her passion for streaming and barely hits three hours.

>> No.71028940

>>71028030
>Also treating your fans as loved instead of "If you don't like it fuck off" wallets works well.
Globalfags love that shit as far as I can tell. A lot of them still watch Ame for some reason. I just stick to JP and enjoy kino every day

>> No.71029107

>>71028931
...Was she ever even really a streamer? I always thought her passion was making projects and edited videos.

>> No.71029184

>>71029107
If she could stream once a month, she would. Makes me wonder why she applied for the job. Must have been strapped for cash and needed a way to get money quick. It's clear she regrets what she got into, she's always talks about how she doesn't want to do singing recordings and other Idol homework. Reality gave her a slap in the face and it's made her depressed.

>> No.71029298

>>71029184
Easy there, sister.
She's a fantastic pick for Hololive and brings a fantastic niche to the group. Just because I'm not telling you off right now doesn't mean I agree with you.

>> No.71029329

>holo vs holo
good morning, Untermensch

>> No.71029470

>>71029329
>anons having a normal discussions
>KEKW THEY ARE FIGHTING
wrong thread clique shitter

>> No.71029474

>>71027935
Ктo этo?

>> No.71029511

>>71027893
>Nerissa
twitch whore that got lost
>Fuwamoco
not EN, they only joined to get to JP
>Shiori
passable, but certainly no savior
>Biboo
an actual net positive for EN, streams a lot

Yeah, Advent is literally the worst gen so far.

>> No.71029550

>>71029329
You can't blame the sister with how much of a beating they've been taking for the past few months. Hell in a few hours they're about to get their shit pushed in again lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCSuv0NdNI8 [Embed]

>> No.71029559

>>71029470
delusional

>> No.71029581

>>71028940
Global is a shell of it's former self, the old Global died somewhere in early 2022, it's basically full of Homobeggars and Nu-fans now.

>> No.71029632

>>71027911
/thread

>> No.71029766

>>71029298
You couldn't prove me wrong even if you wanted and Shiori's dwindling motivation over the past two months proves it. She made a mistake applying and regrets her career choice.

>> No.71029772

>>71029632
Just Biboo really. FWMC content fell off after their "100 consecutive streaming days" milestone. Now most of their weekly content is recycled fuwamoco mornings, 1/3 and sometimes even 1/2 of every stream is superchat readings, and most of their game streams are garbage japanese visual novels or meme games.

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I wouldn’t watch Hololive if Promise didn’t exist. Advent didn’t save shit.

>> No.71029836

>>71029550
holy shit this grifter's going for the jugular

>> No.71029882

>>71029772
let's wait and see if something changes after fes. they might have a lot going on

>> No.71029972

>>71027935
Stinky chinky

>> No.71030221

>>71029830
None of promise are any good. If you're a casual who just watches hololive like they're twitch streamers I guess

>> No.71030276

>>71029772
Someone had to say it. You could tell they decided to sell their souls after they dropped the OoT and Sakura Wars streams and traded it for that bullshit watermelon game or whatever other flavors of the week the JPs would play. Hell, I don't think they ever did more than the one actual Diamond Dogs collab. Lots of people wanted more of that and it's not like Biboo was unavailable to collab the past 6 months.

>> No.71030314

>>71027893
Yes, they did.
Management had put to much stress on the first 2 gens and they needed a third. Then when they got it, it was exactly what they were asking for.
The twin: It's was people's pipe dream
Biboo: The Kaela of EN.
Nerissa: Satisfices that one part of the audience that more easy going and loose-fitting.
Shiori: Satisfices that one part of the audience that wants more intimate stuff.
They also had more EST friendly times and were full on CGDCT. They also have had the most gen unity ever, which was always a bigger thing in EN.

>> No.71030356

>>71030314
>Shiori: Satisfices that one part of the audience that wants more intimate stuff.
She gave up GFE and stopped entirely on Valentines.

>> No.71030651

>>71027893
Early last year was so bad compared to now holy fuck I love Advent.

>> No.71030868

>>71027893
i remember the first myth x jp among us collab where kiara is doing the translations god nobody can understand what is what during that collab

>> No.71030927

>>71029772
Is this a joke? Biboo is the worst out of the 5

>> No.71031191

>>71030356
clever girl

>> No.71031406

>>71029511
This

>> No.71031450

>>71031191
so clever she's driven away most of her paypigs
must have had enough money and decided she didn't need more

>> No.71031472

>>71027893
thanks for killing myth

>> No.71031478

>>71031450
Pretty much. SC are nice but she really does not need them.

>> No.71031574

>>71028940
>I just stick to JP and enjoy kino every day
There's nothing good coming from JP let alone "kino".

>> No.71031597

>>71028028
>males
same pretend arguments forever

>> No.71031615

>>71031450
I mean you can go ahead and seethe all you want. She's used to it.

>> No.71031875

>>71031472
Only kiara is dead

>> No.71032035

>>71028940
>>>/jp/

>> No.71032399

>>71027974
This. Myth and Promise had loyal fanbases already, there was nothing to save. Advent attracted new fans and disillusioned ex-fans but that's it. Not like they were on the verge of being terminated as a branch. Pretty sure people saying Advent saved EN are just those who really wanted the next generation. We'll get the same argument when EN4 rolls around and that they "saved" EN from stagnation.

>> No.71032459

totally natural holo v holo we have ITT

>> No.71032515

>>71027911
fpbp

>> No.71033355

>>71027935
>gave us shiori and nerissa
Lol
Lmao

>inb4 b-but rissa's family
Not hololive

>> No.71034232

>>71031574
Name anything EN has done in the past 6 months that comes close to the prank Miko pulled on Subaru yesterday

>> No.71034314

So much 2view seethe in this thread, sorry your shitter didn't make it into Holo

>> No.71034333

>>71030356
I said intimate, not GFE. Shiori is closer to her audience. Nerissa is more distant. Shiori is having a conversation with her audience, while Nerissa talks towards her chat. It's one of the reasons why Shiori does mostly solo streams while Nerissa does a lot more collab streams

>> No.71034364

>>71034232
It was Suisei who pulled the prank.

>> No.71034383

>>71027911
They're JP though. Always have been.

>> No.71034425

>>71028392
Niji is still around. Cope.

>> No.71034450

>>71029511
Based dubs of truth

>> No.71034501

>>71034364
Miko's channel, Miko's prank

>> No.71034528

>>71029511
I see posts like this and I thank fucking god that you people huddle up in the shithole that is global so I don't need to see these reddit tier takes often

>> No.71034558

>>71034425
Can you even say it's still around? Some organs can't even make it to 1 Finana...

>> No.71034564

>>71027911
FWMC got a JP collab in an hour, i can understand why they want the JP audience, they are way more loyal and will show up for streams just to support you even if they arent interested in the content.

>> No.71034774

Advent is great. They helped HoloEN jump back from their lowest point ever and they did that when the general trend for western Vtubing was a steep decline. No one expected such a good gen really.
And it's hilarious how hard catalogtroons are seething at them, really makes you realize just how fucked the Vtubing audience is and how filled it is with mentally ill troons and third world femcels.

>> No.71035640

>>71034501
Miko isn't smart enough to come up with a prank.

>> No.71036249

>>71035640
The ReGLOSS prank was her idea

>> No.71039703

>>71028874
Just because you're using Mumei to juxtapose your description of Shiori into her doesn't mean Mumei isn't shit.

>> No.71039749

>>71029511
>not EN, they only joined to get to JP
I mean, if this was months ago I'd laugh in your face buuuuut...

>> No.71039767

>>71028028
>monkeys from numbers

>> No.71041478

>>71034774
I'm not into the calling women femcels or being discriminatory to the LGBT community, but it is true that people had found their corners and fandoms and have been stuck in a loop, but that seems to be just be a case of people in these subcultures getting older and stuck in their ways. Advent shook things up and put a fire under the butts of their senpais who were set to settle in on their own routines because they're getting that paycheck to really seem like we're getting full EN unity coming and not just cliques.

And it is pretty obvious that disillusioned people in the vtubing community both fan and talent alike have tried to poison them with vitriol since the start, glad they are enduring.

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Who will graduate first? My guess is on Shiori, seeing how depressed and distant she has been as of late.

>> No.71043888

>>71043718
It's sad how Advent started out so strong as a unit but gradually began drifting away from each other. FWMC going to Japan will be a test of their unity for sure. Either they'll be the foot in the door for more JP collaboration or the breaking point of the gen as a unit. Shiori ending up like the sore lonely thumb sticking out while her genmates all find solid collab choices outside isn't a good sign either.

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>>71043888
I miss her creatividad streams and her dorky karaokes

>> No.71044177

>>71032399
Can I say that this is better than the alternative? Old gens don't really need to be pushed more, they already have a loyal fanbase and are well integrated in Holo. Meanwhile the new memebers have still everything to prove, wondering if they made the right decision after all and a probably inexperienced, at least in the Holo sphere.
While it's still holo vs holo and therefore annoying, it's certainly better than what certain other corpos get, with only their old members managing to get an audience while everyone else get crumbs.

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>>71029511
>>Fuwamoco
>not EN, they only joined to get to JP
i see absolutely nothing wrong with that
EN fags and redditors ruined hololive in september 2020, when myth debuted

>> No.71044642

>>71029581
You're just using buzzwords anon.

>> No.71048823

>>71027893
They said the same thing about council. They'll say the same thing about EN4

>> No.71048957

>>71048823
Council was considered a dud from very early on.

>> No.71049027

>>71027893
what? when? and why?
there wasn't any need of """saving""" whatsoever, what the actual fuck are you talking about?

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>>71048957
It’s ironic too considering they’re actually the most watched EN gen.

>> No.71050060

>>71028132
Low tier bait

>> No.71050291

>>71049851
>bad number of streams
>bad hours watched
>bots and retards tuning in for the 4574678267878th big return of their Promisoshi
>the only novel and hardworking streamer in Promise is the runt
That whole gen is a piece of shit held in place by sissy hypno, ASMR, karaoke and drama tourism. It somehow has the most girls who claim to hate parasocial FUCKS while at the same time relying on parasocial FUCKS not dropping a shitty product the most.

>> No.71050344

>>71034774
You speak the truth

>> No.71050491

>>71050291
Holy cope

>> No.71050508

>>71027893
Interesting how /vt/ says this about every gen to debut.

>> No.71050511

>>71048823
wtf are you on about? council are were so shit that even niji EN shitters started to believe that they were on the same level as holo EN

>> No.71050572

>>71050491
You know it's not cope, little ostrich-kun

>> No.71050624

>>71050508
Perhaps, but unlike Advent, people very quickly realized something was rotten in the meeting room of Council

>> No.71050696

>>71050508
it's been over half a year and people are still saying it, they aren't that new anymore

>> No.71050706

>>71050572
>accuses promise of being botted
>when advent is the most botted gen by far
Yeah you’re coping real hard.

>> No.71050723

>>71050508
Enough time has passed that the honeymoon period is over

>> No.71050725

>>71049851
>>71050291
>>71050624
Remember not to confuse council with promise. Also promise is actually newer gen than advent, it was created a few months after advent debuted.

>> No.71050797

>>71050725
Ok, so we agree then that Promise is EN’s golden gen. That’s all you had to say.

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>>71050291
>>71048957
>>71050725
t.

>> No.71050947

>>71050511
Myth was overworked and burnt out at the time. Council helped alleviate the massive burden they were carrying. Someone would've quit if they didn't debut.

>> No.71050996

>>71050706
>Mumei's 44k karaokes and sub growth weren't botted to the moon and back

>> No.71051036

>>71029511
I'm still incredibly confused when people somehow get mad when the people joining a jp company speak the japan

>> No.71051062

>>71050797
>golden gen
>doesn't stream
>and when they do it's SC begging

>> No.71051078

>>71050947
Except Myth still doesn’t stream other than Kiara and Mori. They’re just lazy as hell and content coasting off passive income.

>> No.71051099

>>71050725
Promise is CouncilRyS by another name, they're a collation of failed projects and not a gen

>> No.71051103

>>71050947
Kiara was overworked and burned out, the others were just there for the ride, Ame tried for a while but she really dipped out .

>> No.71051129

>>71027893
its funny to see these threads, because theyre full of catalogniggers whove never seen an advent stream

>> No.71051167

>>71051062
We’re talking about Promise, not Myth.

>> No.71051211

>>71051129
A misadjusted bot's output stream typed this embarrassment of a sentence

>> No.71051281

>>71051078
>>71051103
Okay so going by this metric, Advent didn't save HoloEN either. Or maybe this metric is stupid. Just maybe.

>> No.71051282

>>71051167
Promise and Myth are tied for begging streams this year, now that Kronii's jumped onto the bandwagon.

>> No.71051296

>>71027911
Eh, other two have their niche.

>> No.71051315

>>71051211
I bet this sentence sounded a lot more intelligent in your head, go do your homework little timmy.

>> No.71051330

>thread is now just holo vs holo and #faggotry
pls don't derail the topic and go back to fellating Advent

>> No.71051381

>>71051129
Advent fans are the homobeggars of EN. They don’t actually watch streams but love to hype up Advent as though it’s some golden gen when less people watch them than Promise.

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>>71027935
I KNEEL

>> No.71051392

>>71051330
The OP is literally holo v holo faggotry
Suck shit catalognigger

>> No.71051597

>>71027893
Botted

>> No.71051720

>>71051282
Imagine saying this when FWMC are straight up the Rushia of EN in terms of shameless GFE.

>> No.71052019

>>71051720
>treats their audience like they are literal children
>anon thinks its gfe
Anon, I...

>> No.71052261

>>71052019
They constantly tell ruffians they “love” them. The whole teletubby thing is just a front, they are extremely parasocial.

>> No.71052700

>>71052261
Yeah and if Barney was a sexy lady dinosaur you'd think the same thing too wouldn't you

>> No.71053611
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>>71044330
I bet you enjoy this kind of content.

>> No.71055321

>>71053611
Everyone in JP does this by the way. This is all that JP was doing before EN debuted and saved hololive.

>> No.71055462

>entire thread is adventschizo vs councilschizo (bonus myth schizo appearance)
bravo we really needed this thread again
anyway biboo is good watch her (i dont really care about the rest but they're fine)

>> No.71055816

>>71029766
No need to prove opinionated retards wrong. Just watching you seethe is fun enough.

>> No.71055907

>>71043888
I wish biboo asked shiori to be in more collabs. Im tired of kaela autism grindy games

>> No.71056005

>>71051381
False flagging ndf

>> No.71056394

>>71044330
how the hell did this come about

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