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[Anonymous No.]

Riku Tazumi, CEO of Anycolor inc, is being berated by the company's investors during the important shareholder meeting taking place right now.

Please say something nice to him to encourage him to not give up.

[Anonymous No.]

you can still rent a yacht when you want to show off, you don't need to own one.

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>>71207401
WHERES MY MONEY TAZUMI-SAN?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlJGfFqYEms

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>>71207401
Cheer up Riku, the investors' complains are negligible.

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>>71207401
Not the right time, but I just hope he leaves. Don't even care he will golden parachute, Niji only hope to survive is to get a new CEO with competence.

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>>71207401
I enjoy all of your streamers and think that they are some of the most kind and hardworking people in the business. I think the only thing that you didwrong was hiring someone as mentally unstable as Dokibird. Her cover was utter dogshit and you were right to not release it.

I hope that thing get better in the coming months. I know that you will be employ more streamers to replace the nutcases who left. Godspeed Riku.

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Post transcript so I can cum

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>>71207401
Mr. Tazumi, I need this money for my retirement. You have the money, right?

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>>71207569
>think that they are some of the most kind and hardworking people in the busines
But you don't think they should get the pay they deserve or even a fucking play button.
You are mentally ill sister.

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>>71207630
I've heard a lot of investors talk about dividends but I can't find the company ever paying them.
Imagine if that is not some mistranslation.

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>>71207569
>Things will get better, so they are bad
>Hire new streamers, so these ones are bad
The narrative got so ass that they starting to admit the company is in deep shit.

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>>71207401
Don’t worry about what the investors are saying, Riku. It doesn’t matter, because you are negligible.

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>>71207401
Suicide is painless when it's not seppuku

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>>71207401
really?? I thought the meetings are generally after the financial report release

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>>71208476
Emergency meeting because Anycolor fucked up so much, Riku will have to sell his yacht.

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>>71207401
They just don't understand your genius, release another wave!

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>>71207401
Today is the day? I wonder if investors will complain about livers avoiding and removing McDonals and Starbucks mentions on concerns they will break ties with the chains.

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Is there a way to know how the meeting went?

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>>71207401
This isn't actually happening you retards.

[Anonymous No.]

u hav dishonor yuwar famury takumi tek dis samurai swuward and do wat nids ta bi dan

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>>71211025
Yeah, there aren’t nearly enough bait threads for it to be real.

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>>71211025
It's happening now retard, why you so fucking blind?

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>>71211025
this site is not even real retard, it's all a work of fiction

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>>71207401
I thought it was tomorrow not today lol

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Strong start to the the day Riku-sama

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>>71207401
They don't announce earnings until Thursday 3PM JST, we're more than a day away, the meeting only happens after they release the information and it's intended as a way for investors to clarify what results they see the company releasing and future plans. That being said, he is going to get hammered once the earnings release.

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>>71207401
We're in the meeting now with Tazumi. We will encourage the executives by doing a THREESOME performance on the table. PRAY FOR US HOPEFULLY THIS GOES WELL AND THE INVESTORS WILL BE PLEASED! Pgtgw

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The thread is fucking retarded and I can't believe you all fell for the bait.
https://www.anycolor.co.jp/ir/calendar

[Anonymous No.]

March 14th is tomorrow, how do you plan to celebrate White Day with Uki?

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>>71207401
Do a flip

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>>71215150
what the fuck happened they're down 4.19% so far today

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>>71207401
Salome is your only talented streamer and you know it

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>>71207401
nothing will happen, the meeting will cover q3 and they just had their niji fes on december

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>>71207401
Jump off your yacht

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>>71217699
Financial results after close tomorrow, so either people pocketing the gains after the margin trade announcement or short sellers betting on a disappointing result
The results will be through the end of January so no impact from the Selen termination, maybe even a one time boost to EN from Pomu's graduation
The critical info is how Nijifes did versus what investors are expecting, and Riku will almost definitely need to give more details on the path forward for EN (and JP for that matter considering VTA has been on life support for 9 months)

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>>71221374
If Cover's recent report is accurate in terms of watch hours NijiEN has been mogged by around 50% across the board by HoloEN despite having 15 talents to NijiEN 30+, NijiJP has lost by about 10-15% for the last 12-18months to HoloJP in terms of watch hours. And bear in mind Holo overall has 1/2 the talents of Nijisanji. That's going to be a tough sell.

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>>71207401
Isn't it in 2 days or something?

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>>71223297
>the mangled patreon watermark in the bottom right
kek

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>>71207401
it's never to late to hire bitcoin assassins to kill his competition literally

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>>71223297
Tomorrow around this time

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>>71223541
I'll ready my popcorn. I hope someone translates to EN

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>>71207401
Tazumi-san, don't worry. You can regain a tiny bit of honor by going down with the yacht.

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Things can only get better, Riku!
........right?

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>>71207401
Well, stock is in the dumpster since the second markets opened and is dipping below 3.2km but you can still try selling all your shares and walking away with millions! Fewer than you may have wanted but still plenty given how you clearly did fuck all in the last few years in terms of actual work.

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>>71224995
I've seen some anons saying that if it dips below 3,000 then everything goes to shit. Is that actually the case?

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>>71217699
They're only maintained their current share price through manipulations and it was never going to be sustainable long term. Kind of surprising it's already shrinking so fast though, I kind of expected them to be able to hang on at least a month around 3500 so it seems markets REALLY don't trust the company atm.

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>>71225274
It gets delisted below 3000. They're playing with fire here.

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>>71224995
How the fuck this shit dropped almost 10% in a single day?

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>>71207401
I'm sure your next business will be the one to succeed

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>>71225274
It's a speculative market so it's impossible to say with complete certainty, but it's pretty broadly agreed that if it dips below 3k then larger investors will start dumping stock which will cause a much faster drop in value, and they're likely to all do this all at once as they'll race to sell off stocks to not be the last one holding the bag. At this point short sellers will also start to hit the value before they miss their chance and it will fully collapse as the amount of available stock will greatly outscale the actual demand.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm calling it now, the shareholder meeting will be a huge success. Investors confidence will increase and the stock price will reflect this. Niji and I will be vindicated.

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>>71225603
Anon I get that you're living under a rock but investor confidence is no longer relevant.

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>>71225345
Is it related to the loan thing, or the buybacks?

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>>71224995
And this is considering the stock is juiced as fuck.
>Buyback December 2023
>margin loan issue Feb 2024
That's like HGH and Anabolic steroids back to back

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>>71207401
Wait, right now? Wasn't it for the 15th? It's only the 12th

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The only way to save Niji's stocks is for Nui and Furen to have sex on stream with me.

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>>71225754
14th, in JST

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>>71225754
It's tomorrow. it's the 13th in JST. Pretty much around this time

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buy buy buy sisters, only you can save nijisanji.

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>>71225686
>>71225345
It's not getting delisted and certainly not so quickly, it would take a period of being under for it to get to that point. The 'risk' of being delisted is going to start a firesale though, and that's the real issue.

It has nothing to do with the loan thing or the buybacks. Buybacks however are usually a remedy to (involuntary) delisting but buying back your stock after the value is below what you originally sold it for is going to be grim, and not doing so will almost certainly prevent any market reentry.

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>>71225925
This! Making some cash on the side AND helping the company at the same time! Don't miss the chance!

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>>71207401
Wasn't the meeting in a day from now? I thought it was on the 14th (JPT)

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>>71207569
>I hope that thing get better
>I know that you will be employ
ESL nijisisters aren't even trying anymore... As a fellow ESL, you're embarrassing us. Spellcheck your shit

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Riku is a self proclaimed trend hipper so it's surprising he's been around this long. In a non shitpost way I wonder if this has made him want to move on.

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isnt the call not for another day in Japan?

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>>71207469
LMAO

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IM SO EXICTED!!! FOR NIJISANJI NEWSS I LOVE NIJISANNJI AAAAAAAAA! IM GONNA SUCK ENNA AND ELIRA'S ASSHOLE

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>>71225698
I’ve seen stocks on loan that fluctuate but never this badly. They are stuck on such a low prize, and talking avout dividends that do not exist.
Is Riku doing something sneaky again? He can’t be watching this and thinking things are gonna turn right.

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>>71207401
Motoaki Tanigo sends his regards.

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>>71227332
>IM GONNA SUCK ENNA AND ELIRA'S ASSHOLE
This but unironically.

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>>71227133
Anon have you not been paying attention at all?
>No real investments in 2023, to the point where they're not even marketing new gens anymore
AKA they're just accumulating a bank
>Artificially inflating stock prices, buying up a large number of stock in preparation for selling it off at a higher price later
Another sign that they're trying to cash out
>Switching over stocks to enable loans
This would have been the last big move before cashing out, after shrinking the available stock on the market this would increase the volume of trade, inflating demand for the stock and preparing the market for a major selloff.

Of course, their shares have sunk due to internal issues and their stock has turned toxic, I fully expect Riku to jump ship very soon, it would take a much better business man than him to turn things around at this stage.

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>>71227507
Always a bit weird reading YAGOOs proper name.

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>>71223541
Dumb question, but since I'm not well versed in stocks I'd figured i would ask,

[Anonymous No.]

So tomorrow Riku bails
Nijisanji goes down GLOBALLY
vt wins?

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>>71227426
The fluctuations are reasonable for a stock that is heavily speculated IMO. I'm looking at the transactions in particular, the volume of sales vs the volume of buys. The sales are big chunks of like 20K+ up to about 50K shares, the buys are lots of 1K-2k. That kind of indicates to me the big boys are dumping and the speculators are the one buying. Unless there's massive shorting going on I don't really see anything unusual.

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>>71228611 (Me)
fucking tired as fuck, was meaning to ask if the stocks today will affect the meeting or will it be tomorrow's stock.

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>>71228631
no graduation until september

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>>71228731
Grim if true, imagine being a niji organ right now and waiting to get the fuck out.
If it wasn't because 90% of them are scummy assholes, most probably would have left already.

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>>71228691
>The fluctuations are reasonable for a stock that is heavily speculated IMO
I don't believe this applies here when it had buyback + loans.

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>>71228725
Stocks will probably contract around a shareholder meeting unless they expect big (promising) announcements, which typically requires markets to already be somewhat confident in the competence of the business. AnyColor has low confidence so we'll almost certainly keep seeing contractions but given how badly they're messing with the prices we can also expect further fluctuations, we don't really know how much is happening behind the scenes.

The immediate results of the shareholder meeting will depend entirely on how well they present the case for their future. There are a lot of eyes on AnyColor at the moment and they can expect much skepticism and scrutiny given their volatile position, they need a really convincing strategy for expansion/growth to see a rise in the markets, and I'm struggling to come up with a means for them to even achieve that. They can't exactly go "we're also making a big 3d studio!". We'll be looking for something like a major partnership being announced that would give them strong leverage over the competition (*exclusive* permissions from Nintendo for example) or the incorporation of another major company (say a merge with an established idol corp)

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>>71207401
>berated by the company's investors
bruh watches too many movies. that's not how things go down especially in a Japanese board meeting

[Anonymous No.]

ME AND MY BOYFRIEND NOUSAGI WILL BE HAVING THREESOME WITH RIKU TO SAVE THE STOCKMARKET OF THE COMPANY WATCH OUT!

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Now feels like a good time to invest in Cover, but only available in the OTC market where I am and no one wants to deal with that shit. I'll have to go through my broker to get permissions to invest directly on the TSE...uh...so tedious. Where my Cover Corp ADR shares at?!

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>>71207401
Riku prove you are more competent than michaelcat

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>>71229193
Gonna show my age here, but if you were around during the the end of the dot com bubble you'd see this pattern a lot. There's always speculators no matter how bad it looks.

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>>71229754
Tell that so a certain suicidal yellow woman to actually follow the mikeneko's method LMAOOOOO

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>>71221374
>short sellers betting on a disappointing result
You do know what short selling is right

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>>71229852
>a certain suicidal yellow woman
Most of Holo and Niji (even the EN branches of both) are Asian women so you'll have to clarify which yellow woman.

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>>71207401
>just give them elira!

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>>71230127
Gonna assume he means yellow-haired -> Doki

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>>71229896
Do you? Short selling is about borrowing a stock and selling it for a profit, then buying it back once the price has dropped to return it to the lender. Short selling is all about betting on a stock falling quickly after selling the stock. Short sellers borrowing stock and selling it increases interaction around a stock and tends to briefly give a false rise to the stock's value which will quickly sink back down, which is why short selling is so easy and successful (while being incredibly damaging to the actual health of the market)

[Anonymous No.]

>Riku-san could you explain why you did this dance?

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Reopened after the lunch break and it's immediately dropped again.

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>>71230508
Remind me where it was at when the opened margin trading?

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>>71207401
lol. the EN branch ended up being a bad idea but not for the reason anyone thought. It ended up creating a stink and exposing the abuse and mismanagement in a way that none of the others foreign branches catching on fire did.

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>>71230340
Doki's outfit is blue though. The only yellow is in her hair.
Come to think of it, how many chuubas actually have yellow as the main color in their theming?

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>>71230508
Ooh boy.

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>>71230508
Damn
It's gonna crash today

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>>71230571
After the presumed sony bump it was 3080-ish
Rest in fucking piss kurokara

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>>71230873
We've seen it get to 30XX twice now, I ain't putting any hope on it until it happens.

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>>71231083
The situation was very different though.

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>>71231083
>30XX
The year is--
jokes aside if it drops below the price margin trading was set at, stocks will automatically, that's right
AUTOMATICALLY
be sold. As in if it breaks the threshhold where a buncha early adopters hopped on the price will drop like a rock

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>>71231189
They still have some (criminal) options left but at this point I wouldn't even be surprised.

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>>71230508

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>>71225687
you mean investor confidence is negligible?
dohoho

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>>71231231
What kind of criminal options can you think of that would inflate a stock value? Riku doesn't have the connections for a massive amount of insider trading and whoever he pulled in to pump it the other day is likely already out.

[Anonymous No.]

5D bros?
Your response?

[Anonymous No.]

Are my stocks more than you bargained for yet?
Elira's been dyin' to tell you
Anything you want to hear
'Cause that's just what Riku needs this week
Lie in the grass next to the mausoleum
I'm just a report in your boardroom, but you're just a line on a graph

Niji's goin' down, down in an earlier round
And Rikus, going down swingin'
Enna'll be your number one with a bullet
A loaded God complex, cock it and pull it
Niji's goin' down, down in an earlier round
And Rikus, going down swingin'
Enna'll your number one with a bullet
A loaded God complex, cock it and pull it

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>>71231285
>>71231478
Absolutely grim for Nijisanji. I'm betting tomorrow will be a slaughter unless Riku pulls off some masterclass in bullshittery.

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>>71221374
Yagoo really fucked Riku with that US branch announcement, investors have been upset at Riku's failure in overseas expansion and here comes Cover providing stats on how they're crushing Anycolor in that sector.

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>>71231401
>Riku doesn't have the connections for a massive amount of insider trading
He's a trust fund rich kid, he most certainly does.
>whoever he pulled in to pump it the other day is likely already out.
Probably, but that wouldn't be relevant once they start actually breaking laws.

[Anonymous No.]

IS GOING UP BROS, NOOOO

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>>71231667
It's honestly brutal to see how badly AnyColor is getting mogged by the competition in terms of being a genuine business, but then I don't expect AnyColor was ever meant to be more than a pump & dump fad that kept going longer than they expected.

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>>71231667
That was true 5d chess. Absolute masterclass in corporate fuckery

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>>71231747
>isreal
BUY BUY BUY

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>>71231791
look at the numbers of streamers relative to growth, support, subscribers. feels like a fucking classic pyramid scheme more than an actual company.

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>>71231747
>Already dipping again
It's a fun ride, expect it to make some jumps here and there for a while.

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>>71207401
Mr Tazumi may I suggest testing the waters with adult contents? My sources suggest "Blowjob ASMR" is extremely popular.

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>>71232012
Vox already did that.

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unless it spikes back up a significant amount tomorrow, They are dead, The investors call will almost certainly push them below the loan margin threshold, which will trigger automatic sells which will push them below 3k, and if it goes below 3k, its game over

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>>71232141
what happens if it goes below 3k

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>>71232200
it'll start to accelerate

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>>71231285
Reminder kurokolor stock decresing 600¥ in last quarter because en revenue declining yoy.
friday is a doomsday for kurosanji

[Anonymous No.]

>Riku hearing this right now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbR5WcyWl18

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>>71231888
I mean... if you think about it
All VTuber corps are pyramid schemes

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>>71232200
When you buy something at the store, is it $10 or is it $9.99?

[Anonymous No.]

what is this graph below?

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>>71232200
They risk getting delisted (basically they get a warning that if the stock price isn't raised you get delisted) and that will almost certainly cause a fire sale in their stocks, but there won't be many buyers so the price will start to enter freefall, which means they won't be able to avoid getting delisted and that more or less forces them to buy back all their outstanding stock if they want to ever try again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71231943
IS GOING UP AGAIN HOW DID YOU KNOW

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>>71232200
This happens. Sort by "all".
https://www.marketwatch.com/investing/stock/3990?countrycode=jp

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>>71207401
DAN DAN MR TAZUMI SAN

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>>71232377
Volume of trades
You know you can just look at google and yahoo finance right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>71232377
Volume I guess.

[Anonymous No.]

How many hours until closing again?

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>>71232478
>UUUM
>Multi-channel network
VTubing bros.... not like this
It's gonna happen to Niji

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>>71230508
Is this salvageable at all? I mean, if one starts dropping everyone starts dropping, right?
What can even be done at this point?

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>nips are theorizing stockholders are dipping because talking points from the meeting got leaked
It's a schizorrat but the idea of insider trading making your stock go down has me laffin'.

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>>71232611
nothing
all you do is jump ship because they'll continue to have pr disaster after pr disaster

[Anonymous No.]

>>71232611
You buy a stock for every single stock that gets sold.

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>>71232576
JFC you financially illiterate cunts. Can't you just google "Tokyo stock exchange closing time"

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>>71232611
>Is this salvageable at all?
if they didn't open up margintrading then it could've been but they did so no

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>>71232719
thanks for enabling retards like me bro, im not even kidding it didn't occur to me to google that lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>71207401
>>71231667
kek

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>>71232657
I remember nips being in denial about niji failing, what are they saying now?
Does our literallyus site even understand what is going on?

[Anonymous No.]

>>71230508
DAAAAAAAAN DAAAAAAAAN MR TAZUMI SAN

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>>71232239
aaaaaaaaaa I DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO SHORT THE NIJISTOCK AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
I COULD MAKE THOUSANDS, MAYBE MILLIONS

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>>71232936
If you remember stockholders being in denial about it falling that's because literally all of them do that for a living

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>3180
bros.... is not going to go below 3k. its joever, vtubers have lost...

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>>71233045
See you Friday

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>>71233045
We don't need to be posted on every 5 yen increase or decrease, its the graph and end-of-day results that matter the most
especially for tomorrow

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>>71232916
DeepL is better
>Cover is expanding into North America and talking about globalization, but here they're expanding into a desolate Japanese village and looking all smug.
>But here we are in a desolate village in Japan, and we're doing it with a big smile on our faces.

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>>71232443
Day Traders always buy the dip, it's not gonna rise back up to where it started though.. Even IF it raises again tomorrow, this wavy pattern of ups and downs is NOT what you wanna see with a loan margin stock, It's horrifically unstable and the investor's call is almost certainly gonna cause it to freefall

[Anonymous No.]

Is it possible to gain money from stocks failing?
I remember something about shorting from the big short.
If that was a thing I should have invested in some niji stock for a quick and dirty fun

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>>71233045
Rich kid like Tazumi isn't going to have his company fall over that easy so expect it to meander around 3100 for a while before they give up. Tomorrow can utterly sink the stock still but I expect them to have enough PR fluff to sound nice to the gullible retards that prop these companies up.

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>>71233233
>Short selling a stock is when a trader borrows shares from a broker and immediately sells them with the expectation that the share price will fall shortly after. If it does, the trader can buy the shares back at the lower price, return them to the broker, and keep the difference, minus any loan interest, as profit.

[Anonymous No.]

I can't wait for the new investor letter
Financially negligible!

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>>71233200
>this wavy pattern of ups and downs is NOT what you wanna see with a loan margin stock
this, tazumi-kun's gotta be shitting bricks right now calling up everyone his daddy knows begging for a small investment of millions of dollars to save his company rocking harder than the fucking Pequod

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>>71233315
Oh, so it requires a "sucker" of sorts who is willing to buy the stock at that point in time.
I guess this wouldn't work here because it is not predicting a bubble but a PR disaster.

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>>71218144
She can have her pick of agencies if she ever leaves.

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>>71233233
>Is it possible to gain money from stocks failing?
Yes. That's what shortselling is. Basically you loan a stock from a company that does margin trading, you then sell that stock. Once the value of that stock then falls you buy the stock 'back' and return it to the lender.

The main barrier in making actual money off of this is interest on the loan so you need the stock to drop in price at a rate that lets you afford the interest accumulated for the loan and still make a profit.

[Anonymous No.]

How bad for kurokolor if loan margin didnt work?
its a gamble move right?

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>>71233397
The issue is the "sucker" in thi case is mostly the person trying to short the stock. There are no real suckers anon, the person in the other end is betting against it. Dont do it, people lose a lot of money thinking they are some super trader when they short sell only to lose all their money. I once lost like 2k in one day in options, not doing that shit anymore.

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>>71233520
You ever play an RPG where there's an item or a spell or a move that has a higher chance of landing a critical hit compared to a normal move, but an incredibly low chance of landing and wastes your turn at best or debuffs you at worst?

It's basically that. You swing for the fences or your give yourself a concussion from the backswing.

[Anonymous No.]

thanks boss, you have created so many working opportunities for the great talents that we have has and had to enjoy. even despite the lows, nijisanji never failed to feel like a family for me, im not that much of a talker irl so no friends lol and vtubers from nijisanji jp who are friendly with parasocialism has always been my go to stuff when im feeling lonely. i feel bad that the en branch has been filled with drama nonstop, boss has a good intention to create an english branch but the talents cant keep themselves out from drama, always letting boss down ToT. i know a good portion of en talents are good but so many bad apples can stink up the place, thankfully boss terminated two of the major troublemakers, selen and zaion. but that doesnt mean the job is done, we need to increase our ccv back to the level before february drama strikes. i believe in you boss, i love my nijisanji family so much.

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>>71233520
It's a gamble yes. It's easy to suggest it didn't pay off as their stock price is basically back to where it was already but there's a case to be made that if they didn't do this their shares would have already dropped even further.

It was never going to be a sustainable position, but they were almost certainly hoping for it to rise faster and stabilise with some fluctuations at a higher point.

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>>71233547
>2k in one day
Ouch, my condolences anon
Yeah, it would be total hubris to think that market will go the way you predict. The housing crisis was the way it was specifically due to the circumstances it was in after all.

Still, the idea of "sucker" here is that someone will have to buy that stock after you loan it, right? This assumes that the stock needs to be hot enough for it to actually sell rather than you having to hold on to a risky item.

[Anonymous No.]

I thought Nijisanji JP was safe from all the recent troubles?

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>>71233660
then there's the stock buyback which is basically a buff with a chance to have minor debuff eg +20%atk for -10%MaxHP

That gets amplified by the margin loan so the debuffs are even worse

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>>71233749
It rose for 3 days up about 250 yen, and now almost all of that "growth" is gone, it even dipped on monday before recovering, this fluctuating is a really really bad sign even IF the Q3 call wasn't looming, And that is almost certainly going to be bad, and even if they limp along afterwards, the Q4 call in june will make them seriously consider liquidating the whole company, even IF jp is "stable" at the moment

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>>71233520
If it works it'd have given them a huge buffer or cause their stock to massively inflate in value. If it fails the margin call (aka being told to pay the difference and sell the stock when it goes below what you paid) will end up fucking over basically everyone who invested and the stock price will fall for massive selling.

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>>71233934
this is skill issue.
you dont need hp if monsters never hit you

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>>71233958
Liquidating the company will simply not happen, but liquidating the stocks and pulling out is a possibility. Not a very likely one unless it fucking sinks but still possible

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>>71233914
NijiJP has been overtaken by HoloJP in most key metrics. Shares are for both NijiJP and NijiEN. While Nijijp may be ok-they're stagnant. Their growth potential in the West is 0. So there's no future growth in the short or medium term. So one branch isn't growing and one branch is on life support, shares go into freefall

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>>71207569

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>>71233884
I mean this is basically what happened with the whole Gamestop debacle. Short sellers sold stocks they loaned but the people that bought them were a coordinated efforts to sabotage the short positions, so after the stocks dropped in price as everyone expected nobody was actually selling the stocks to the shortsellers and they couldn't buy the stocks they needed to return to the lenders. This in turn meant they had to keep paying interest over a stock that wasn't lowering in value, and because shortsellers are basically forced to buy back stock they sold in order to return it the people who bought from them the price skyrocketed as the value was effectively 'infinite' (realistically it would appreciate at the rate of interest)

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>>71234055
Yeah but if you end up punching yourself in the face with a 1hitKO skill, the monsters don't matter

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>>71233914
Riku has repeatedly promised the investors substantial growth in the global sector, The neverending yabs coming from EN have basically killed any chance of that, The scarle starbucks palestine stuff is just the latest example, You have the offkai shit, the lawyer contract leaks, the uki shit, and that's all AFTER the big selen nightmare they gave themselves, But the REAL reason it's dropping has nothing to do with any of that, Cover released an announcement that they are building a US office and launching an NA subsidiary, In addition to a statement basically outlining how they are way ahead of AC in terms of youtube subscribers, livestream CCVs, And superchats, Completely BTFO'ing even NijiJP with How much HoloJP has grown

TL:DR Yagoo is the one responsible for knifing the stocks today, The rest has been bubbling drama that has been just barely kept at bay by the language barrier, but it is now starting to seep through and investors might have even taken notice

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>>71233934
More like using Gil Toss in a game where Gil Toss is not a flat damage = money * str * whatever the fuck else, but a game where it's just money * random number from 1 to 255

[Anonymous No.]

I was looking at anycolor stocks and what exactly happened in 2022-2023 winter?
They went from 5000yen to 2000y in a single fucking season

Isn't that a ridiculous blow for the company?

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>>71234244
Yagoo was a cutthroat wallstreet hustler all this time, under the guise of his sweet, naive smile...

Yagoo, I kneel

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>>71234338
You can look at their IR page and figure it out right now.

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>>71234244
EN drama has very little to do with their current stock issues desu. It's responsible for the drop in February for sure but current issues have been long in the making stemming from a lack of investment throughout 2023. Normally when something hits you like Selen's graduation did a company can point to upcoming projects/development to balance the scales but Niji doesn't HAVE anything, and that is a far bigger problem than any random yab.

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>>71234595
I'd say EN drama literally does not matter at all, it's them releasing a financial report saying
>there was an incident
>but you don't have to worry about it kitten
and expecting shareholders to lap that shit up. I'm 100% serious when I say even if Selen actually killed herself it would have changed nothing here, as much as I hate to say it.

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>>71234410
>On 9 December 2022, XSOLEIL, the seventh wave of Nijisanji EN, debuted.[45] This was the second English-speaking, mixed-gender wave to debut, and included Doppio Dropscythe, Meloco Kyoran, Hex Haywire, Kotoka Torahime, Ver Vermillion, and Zaion LanZa.
>On 14 December 2022, Anycolor announced the immediate graduation of Nijisanji EN Liver Yugo Asuma of Noctyx. The notice stated that Yugo's graduation was a result of discussions between the company and Yugo regarding aspects of his activities and behavior as a Liver. Both parties concluded that it would be best to part ways.

This can't be it? The effects were too immediate and too extreme.

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>>71230508
It would be amazing if Riku doesn't have a golden parachute ready by July. At least this quarter spans November 1 to January 31 so there's plenty of revenue sources that help soften the blow, like NijiFES and those last minute merch sales of Pomu and Selen. This quarter will be a slight migraine for Riku though compared to the nightmare that will be the next Quarterly report spanning from February 1st to April 30. Riku might be forced to explain
>Why so many EN talents are leaving the company
>How they lost two of their top female talents within a short span of time
>Why most of their EN talents were barely streaming this quarter, meaning less Youtube profits
>Why viewership has gone down the shitter and why there was a purge in subcounts
>How they got kicked from a fucking convention held in America, meanwhile their competitor has just announced that they're opening an American branch
>Other yabs that popped up during this time period, probably even more that pop up
There's no way that Riku isn't thinking about selling off the company at this point.

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>>71207469
My fucking sides.

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>>71234666
Selen dying would have resulted in a crowdfunded lawsuit for her parents, which would be, 1. a complete and total PR nightmare that would make the current situation look like nothing, 2. the complete disassociation by major EN brands and Cover corp (you really think cover would wanna be associated with a company that drove a talent to True An Hero?), 3 the other nijiEN livers would almost certainly jump ship at the first possible chance, maybe even breaking their contracts to get as far away from the nuclear fallout as possible, resulting in the near instant loss of 20% of their business revenue, all in all, They'd be fucking dead already if she actually went through with it

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>>71234191
Lmao now I understand the gamestop debacle, no wonder why wallstreet seethed like that

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>>71234845
Investors won't be waiting till june to ask those questions, They aren't blind, If they don't get concrete answers as to why they should stay invested NOW, they won't bother waiting for the numbers to officially come in when june rolls around, Its VERY plain to see (especially thanks to cover corp outlining it themselves in their latest press release), That nijisanji is beyond stagnant, Even the JP branch is losing out to Hololive now, Despite having DOUBLE the talents that cover corp does, They are pulling in less overall numbers, that ALONE will be ringing alarm bells and its almost certainly why the stock tanked today

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>>71234845
how much of a sell out will Riku be if he sells the company?
I mean, this goes beyond just selling for a turn over item, he fucked the entire company and he will have to start a new company.
It showed him that he was just a rich kid, not someone who was actually financially savvy.
He has gained too much fame (or infamy) for it to go unnoticed at that point
Who would trust him after that, at least for another 5 years?

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>>71234595
EN drama has everything to do with what's happening though.
If the company was well investment, had management, etc, none of this would have happened, but alas riku went full greed and wanted everything to stay the same while livers carried the branch in their backs.
There's a reason people graduated left and right, EN branch was eventually going to go down. Selen drama made the public more aware of the company greedy tactics, they will never be able to recover from this PR nightmare, a month without revenue and merchandise is not nothing and it will reflect on the financial results

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>>71234845
You forgot the most important part.
VTA is empty.

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>>71234666
Yea I was saying the same thing earlier. It made their company look incredibly incompetent which is the last thing you want during a stock buyback. It's funny that most of the drama farmers barely even mention the shareholder statement despite that being their biggest PR mistake of the big three in February, you'd think the fact that Riku did a public apology for this incident in particular would have tipped people off.

The Selen drama was significant but nothing they couldn't easily mend in terms of the markets, just blame some talents and some middle managers and say you'll sort things out (I mean they literally did that in the apology video) but you're not going to regain confidence in your professionalism as a company that easily.

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>>71234406
That is a cool picture, Fauna is not a bad pick for a chuuba

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>>71207401
LIVIN' LA VIDA LOCA!!!

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>>71235175
All I saw is that they're promoting two talents. Are they trying to find more, or is this all they have?

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>>71235137
>a month without revenue and merchandise is not nothing and it will reflect on the financial results
It's a month not covered by the meeting this week though.

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What kind of idiot would buy a sinking yacht tho

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>>71235351
Again: VTA is, as of right now, currently completely empty. As in there are no talents there. They're still begging for doctors, lawyers, and other people with literal Masters degrees to apply btw.

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>>71234862
Nah. Crowdfunded lawsuit sounds fun and all but AnyColor can't be forced into a lawsuit in Canada. If they don't want to show up they just won't. Even if they get fined as a result they can either just ignore it or absorb the cost and it would genuinely be negligible. In fact, the parents getting involved would be good for them as they can simply insist it's the parents own responsibility for not taking proper care of their daughter. I've seen that PR playbook and it works. The big reason why the current situation with Selen went so badly for them is specifically because Selen is still around and is a constant threat of PR damage, AnyColor cannot make any strong statements about the situation because Selen can simply contradict them. Had she been dead they can run with any narrative, including a bunch of sob stories about how she'll be missed and how-could-her-parents-do-this? This is also why they tried so hard to get Selen to make a statement that would absolve them of the blame for the MV debacle, they CANT say anything that she could easily disprove.

>the other nijiEN livers would almost certainly jump ship at the first possible chance
Doubt it. Again the only reason they don't control the narrative is because Selen is alive. Had she died they could claim anything they want and there's no one to call them out on it.

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>>71234244
>The Anikara Empire still reels from the secession of the Pomum Weald, the disastrous Dragoon Rebellion, the Blinding of the Stargazers, the Bane of Ethyria, the Yikes Mockery, the Slave Charter Disclosure and the Cake Jihad.
>The Cover Federation initiates its most devastating weapon yet against its longtime rival: the Cascadia Colony Drop, annihilating any hopes for the Anikara Empire to seek new lands to exploit for its war effort.
>The Anikara Empire now stands even more feeble before the Festival of War, the annual conflict between the world's great chuuba empires.
>Even the Eastern provinces of the Empire, long removed from any direct danger, grumble at the continous humiliation suffered by its Western constituents. The Rainbow Pantheon convenes.
>Chronicles of the All Out War, Chapter 24

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>>71234814
USA money printer go BRRRRRBRBRBRBBRBBRRBBRBRBRBRRRRRRRR
Stock movement aren't a result of company performance but rather affected by global economic environments. Literally ALL stocks went down that year. Search up ANY company and look at their graph.

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>>71235360
That won't stop investors from asking about it, They LITERALLY lost out on the biggest vtuber holiday of all time, Valentine's day, They lost ALL of the fujo money they could have had from lux/noc streams and even WHEN they started streaming again, Enna's big Nier concert and birthday brought in HALF of what enna's birthday did last year, Hell the reason the stock is tanking RIGHT NOW is because of cover's latest announcement, blatantly laying out how they are growing while AC is stagnating, HoloJP is doing better numbers than NijiJP with HALF the number of talents, That alone is damning, then factor in Cover USA and Niji is basically done for

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>>71235175
>VTA and EN are going to be our biggest form of growths! says Kurosanji
>EN stagnating for a year (ignoring yabs)
>Selen stockholder statement
>contract leaking
>VTA has no people in it
>only a handful of people above 5k CCV
>no gachifarmers
>blocking confirmed winning talents from joining
>huge waste of money
>can't even say a-at least we have JP
>because we admitted to stagnation being a huge issue by shilling VTA and EN as the future
To be a fly on the wall of that meeting.

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>>71234862
It's such a crazy and scary timeline to think about. Almost none would've broken their contracts and left, they would've all been shell shocked as well as threatened into sticking in line, much similarly to what did happen, but the entire company would've had to actually legitimately restructure etc, talents go into counseling etc.
>>71235182
>>71235360
Their company has been fucked with more in how many months than ever before, which is another thing shareholders look at.
>>71235420
Wtf is wrong with you. You evil fucker: 'AnyColor can't be forced into a lawsuit in Canada. If they don't want to show up they just won't. Even if they get fined as a result they can either just ignore it or absorb the cost and it would genuinely be negligible'. Even if they did break the law they can just ignore it LOL. Did you even read your own post?

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>>71234595
Selen’s drama matters because he said to the investors it was negligible, and then proceeded to dogeza over it. He sent the image of a man that has no control over his earning and no trust.
Those thing matter and many actionists left smelling a down over it, which caused the nuclear febraury drop.
Now we are literally at the stage where he has already give in to the speculative worlves. Talk of who is right are beyond useless for him, only for the livers.

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>>71235137
>If the company was well investment, had management, etc, none of this would have happened
Yes, that's true, but that's not actually RELEVANT. Remember Riku is *trying* to inflate the price of the company before selling it off without having to actually work at or invest in it. Don't try to think about Niji/EN as a long-term business because Riku most certainly isn't.
>a month without revenue and merchandise is not nothing and it will reflect on the financial results
Those numbers take time to be reflected in the stock price though, and many investors don't even look that deeply into the companies they invest in especially when the stock is 'hot' due to inflated prices, they'll want to rush in and capitalise. Shareholder statements however DO get noticed, and they basically posted one of the worst shareholder statements they could possibly have made, EVERYTHING about it was wrong, it could be worse but only if it was actually just full of spelling errors, anti-Japanese racism and a written confession that Riku murders prostitutes every Friday.

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>>71235562
>Even if they did break the law they can just ignore it LOL. Did you even read your own post?
NTA but you do know international law is literally one of the biggest reasons why end-stage corporate fuckery is as big of a deal as it is, right?

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Anycolor will attending licensing expo this year btw.
im surprised they still have a balls after attemping suicide and uki racist drama

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>>71207401
Did anyone ask, "Why didn't you take her offer to leave on good terms?"

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>>71234862
I don't even want to think about that timeline. Hurting Niji is fine, but I really just wanted her to escape so I could enjoy her outside of it... Ugh. It's depressing just to think about. I can't wait for the company to be gone and the fans to scatter... I really wish the best for whichever good ones are still left.

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>>71227655
>take a much better business man than him
Where did he get the money to start up all his get rich quick schemes before this? Is he just a grifter or is he also a trust fund baby like most billionaires tend to be.

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>>71235657
Have you tried googling his name?

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>>71235562
>Wtf is wrong with you. You evil fucker
Nta but I'm pretty sure he's just stating what the company would have done, not that he agrees with it.

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>>71207521
Doesn't he only own 40%? So they(the investor collective) could actually fire him if they wanted to.

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>>71235605
Yes you fucking loser and they as well as many other companies have broken many international laws in US and Canada, but I guess you're just a retard pleb who'd rather point that fact out than talking about it etc ffs

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>>71235700
He owns 42%, Anykara holds 7%. There's some .xx%'s there too but I'm not checking, point is you're asking for an impossibility.

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>>71235700
Theoretically, but in practice the next biggest shareholder owns 5% so you'll need a truly staggeribg coalition in order to force him to do anything

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>>71235562
>Wtf is wrong with you. You evil fucker
? Are you misreading something or what the fuck are you on about?
>Even if they did break the law they can just ignore it LOL. Did you even read your own post?
Yes? Are you retarded? What is Canada going to do to a Japanese company that doesn't have any assets in Canada? It is a literal objective fact that Canada has no leverage or standing. Even if Riku had literally flown into Canada and murdered Selen with his bare hands before flying back to Japan, Canada would have an extremely difficult time prosecuting him since there is no extradition treaty and they'd have to make a pretty solid case for Japan to extradite a trust-fund rich kid to a foreign court.
>B-but what about their Canadian employees??
What about them?

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>>71235734
>you
>you're
The fuck do you think NTA means?

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>>71235773
Canada has PIPA. Not the rabbit, but a law that was went over pretty extensively that applies explicitly to Selen as someone who had her personal information illegally shared.

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>>71235420
That would be a PR disaster of cataclysmic scale. This isn't some faceless corpo that sells paint or chemicals. They can get away with that because of their product. Anycolors business is live entertainment ie people. The PR backlash in JP and the Western world would be literal pitchforks at their offices. What you're suggesting is complete and utter PR annihilation. Anycolor is in this mess due to in no small part shitty PR and you think doing the most idiotic thing possible is going to salvage the situation? How many times were your dropped on your head as a baby?

[Anonymous No.]

hopefully rumors of their contracts being predatory and similar to slave contracts have reached greater JP mainstream. that would damage them more.

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>>71207401
>Please say something nice to him to encourage him to not give up.
https://youtu.be/h25D6GO9MzU?si=GpVlnkhA4-y0vZ6A

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>>71235781
>>71235781
Yes, I said how it's actually a big deal in north America, but you'd rather just point out that international law in general is fucked and the repercussions instead of actually talking about it all in regards to the fucking topic of the thread, you fucking loser.

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>>71207401
Mr Tazumi I have a question, how do you plan to address the Cover USA expansion? what are your plans to grow NijiEN based on the current situation?

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>>71207569

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>>71235644
Oh I can explain if you wish. We have all the actual facts so we don't even need to be guessing.
>They blocked Selen's MV, opening a PR hole that needed to be patched especially given they were planning a stock buyback, during which you really don't want negative PR
>Selen didn't want to play ball at all anymore, and refused to respond to their demands to make a statement, instead insisting she be let go
This bit is important, they couldn't part on good terms because they needed to put a stop to the MV drama.
>Because Selen wouldn't play ball they took matters into their own hands, sculpting a narrative that put all the blame on Selen and terminating her, fixing both issues in one stroke
>But they were too slow, another PR mess was in progress with #whereisSelen taking off and Dokibird making some noises on Twitter
>So they rushed their termination notice out the door hoping to stamp out the current mess and were especially thorough in trying to paint Selen as the party at fault
This obviously backfired, partly because dragoons were already very skeptical of Nijisanji and due to a previous incident with Zaion implicating them of wrongdoing
>In an incredibly moronic effort to stem the tide on the markets, they rushed out a shareholder statement that was so utterly incompetent it immediately backfired and further settled their image as being clownishly inept at a time where market confidence was of utmost importance
>They then tried to double down on discrediting Selen by having three of her coworkers publicly slander her on stream, but because Dokibird was being incredibly professional in contrast to their absurd behaviour it just further damaged their brand
TL;DR: They couldn't because they needed to fix the PR problem their MV takedown created, and Dokibird refused to give it to them, and instead of just taking the hit they decided to have a full sperg out meltdown in public.

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>>71215150
Sisters? where are you? you have a lot to explain right now.

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>>71235909
All I'm reading is a bunch of childish whining with no actual refutation or rhetoric. Spare yourself the keystrokes and just write down what you're actually saying: "nuh-uh"

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>>71236131
>partly because dragoons were already very skeptical of Nijisanji and due to a previous incident with Zaion implicating them of wrongdoing
It's not just zaion, honestly in the grand scheme of things the zaion stuff is less important than nina and Mysta both graduating and sounding much happier after redebuting which planted doubts in the minds of nijifags of what is actually happening at nijisanji

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>>71235657
Riku is more than likely a yuppie. He had another start up company that folded before Anycolor IIRC, and he started up Anycolor while still in University at the age of 21. Unless he was a master of bullshitting his way throughout Japan, its probably more than likely he's just loaded, that's not something anyone can do.

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>>71235900
Again, it doesn't matter what laws Canada has, they have no way to enforce their laws against a Japanese company. They sue AnyColor, AnyColor goes: "Who? Que? Je ne parle francais!" and puts the paper down a shredder. What do you expect Canada to do? Invade Japan? Fine a company that has no assets in Canada and isn't going to pay them shit? Try to sue them in Japan over a breach of a Canadian law?

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>>71236209
You are clearly a retard who doesn't understand the value of PR for AN ENTERTAINMENT COMPANY. So I hope they try this shit and watch it explode in their face again. Fucking moron.

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>>71207469
fpbp

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>>71236234
Was being a bit brief there but yes, Kuro and Matara casting shade on the company certainly contributed to the overall narrative turning against them. They were pretty diplomatic about it but it was very obvious that NijiEN was a fucking grim workplace.

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>>71236131
>>71236234
Exactly, and Sayu exposed how they tried to hustle her illegally and if she could've fought it after she would've won. Niji is fucked and shady.
>>71236323
>>71236366
lol

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>>71236366
I understand PR far better than you do mate, I can actually argue my points while you just go "WELL ITS BAD PR... BECAUSE I SAY SO". You can keep sperging out or you can explain why you think Nijisanji being in full control of the narrative would somehow be worse for them than the current situation.

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>>71207569
Seeth harder, retarded NDF trash

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>>71236468
Nijisanji being in full control of the narrative isn't bad, what is bad is them using that full control to do what you suggested they do and attempt to blame their employee who committed suicide that it's solely her fault that she did so. You saw how the reception was to the nijisister hitlist that emphasised the whole bpd thing, it's not going to work any better if it came from the company instead

[Anonymous No.]

Cover bros? Our NA expansion?

[Anonymous No.]

>>71207401
Tonight... WE PARTY!

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>>71207401
>Tomorrow
THE DAY THAT NIJI DIED

DAN DAN MR TAZUMI SAN

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>>71236596
>Nijisanji being in full control of the narrative isn't bad, what is bad is them using that full control to do what you suggested they do and attempt to blame their employee who committed suicide that it's solely her fault that she did so.
You need to go back to school and learn some basic reading comprehension, because that's not remotely what I suggested.
>You saw how the reception was to the nijisister hitlist that emphasised the whole bpd thing, it's not going to work any better if it came from the company instead
It actually would, but not in the way you think. You seem to be confused about the timeline for this narrative, had Selen successfully killed herself there would be no real way to blame the company, to outsiders it would look as though the MV situation was the final straw, but I do not believe that narrative would hold much water, people don't normally kill themselves over things like that, and so the question would become 'why did things turn out that bad'. There would be no claim of harassment in the company or even a finger pointing at Nijisanji other than maybe fans blaming them but with very little functional evidence.

Even if her parents did believe that Nijisanji was responsible, they wouldn't really have a case, no court would take that up even she left a suicide note blaming Nijisanji, as there would be no way to actually prove anything. The worst case scenario for Nijisanji would be if Selen's parents then post the suicide note publicly (and you have to be a real heartless piece of shit to believe caring parents would publicise something so intimate about their recently deceased daughter)

If it came to light that she did have BPD then that would take all the blame, BPD is a disorder that can and does lead people to attempt suicide and it's easy to shift the blame to mental illness, and even blaming her parents/family/friends for leaving it untreated. Again, there isn't really a narrative around harassment in this scenario and Niji can spin an entire narrative around how they were trying to support her as best they could. They can't do that now because Selen is alive and can call them out on their bullshit.
TL;DR: You don't know shit about PR and are imagining a situation that is far removed from a reasonable hypothetical.

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>>71236419
>>71236926
Bruh, it wasn't until they confessed to it. It was a shocking revelation for everyone when they finally disclosed how trash Niji was, weeks before the dumpster fire started.
>>71236596
This is actually the line in the sand now. A few have realized and pointed it out, but they're prob never going to admit fault, or not. Why they got cancelled from Offkai (and future events) isn't the drama, it's the fact that they have PURPOSEFULLY have chose not to admit Niji has bullied, harassed, been racist etc...
BTW, they removed the BPD btw because THEY REALIZED all their testimony etc would just corroborate them being mean and pushing someone with mental issues into suicide...

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>>71237065
Anon. Calm the fuck down and proofread your post, I genuinely can't even tell what you're trying to say anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71234406
CEO of an idol company vs CEO of a black company.
In the end the former won big while the latter got stomped.

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>>71237107
Why you so scared? What did I say worse than these other fuckers? Is that you Millie?...
I'll say this again though, they removed the BPD btw because they realized all their testimony etc would just corroborate them being mean and pushing someone with mental issues into suicide...

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>>71236926
Deny all you want but it ain't gonna save your precious Kurosanji's ass, el retardo.

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>>71237209
All I asked was for you to proofread your posts anon, no need to go full schitzo. Just rewrite your attempt at a point and do it properly this time instead of sperging out.
>they removed the BPD btw
Pretty sure we were talking about AnyColor and not retarded fangirls on twitter. To wit AnyColor never mentioned any kind of mental illness in regards to Selen, and it would be pretty stupid for them to do under current circumstances.

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>>71232141
>unless it spikes back up a significant amount tomorrow, They are dead,
Are you ready anons?

https://youtu.be/P3ALwKeSEYs?si=loQeZfLGOBtK36qj

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>>71237209
Anon are you okay?

[Anonymous No.]

>>71237209
Anon, please get your facts and headcanon straight... no need to mix the two

[Anonymous No.]

>>71237303
>A post highlighting all the evil shit Nijisanji could have gotten away with if Selen had managed to actually kill herself
>Literally talking about how fucked up the situation would be that a company would be better off if one of their people killed themselves rather than not
>This is somehow defending Nijisanji
Bruh. What the fuck is wrong with you? Go learn to actually fucking read holy shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71232141
>spikes back up a significant amount
What would you say a significant amount would be, roughly?

[Anonymous No.]

>>71237338
I've never jacked it to financial reports but I'm ready.

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>>71232936
>I remember nips being in denial about niji failing, what are they saying now?
It was the astroturf campaign mentioned in the leaks, but we were wrong about being done on EN side, it was JP all along stock bros who were blindsided by the astroturf campaign.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71237410
NTA but at this rate we're looking at 8% compared to the low of today, they need to climb back higher than yesterday.

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>>71237313
I did... fucking retard? You can't read my 2nd non-sperg comment, that you even replied to? You should copy and paste it then in your response so I know you did in fact see and read it and know how to use the computer and were in fact asking me to answer the comment I answered....
"AnyColor never mentioned any kind of mental illness in regards to Selen"
They did in their first slander posts, and then deleted it once they realized it would come back on them.

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>>71237553
Proof next thread?

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>>71234191
Oh yeah I remember that now from years ago, it was a big "fuck you" moment vs the big guys, there was a lot of manipulation going on too, what happened after fucking with the short sellers?

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>>71237553
Anon we all saw their first termination notice, which is what I assume you're referring to. It had no reference to mental illness and was just a gross list of petty infractions and made-up bullshit for which they fired her.

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>>71237553
I think you're confusing the termination notice with the rentry that the sisters put together. The rentry was indeed edited to remove any mention of BPD but that wasn't an official document.

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>the only non-toxic female en nijjichuubas left were rose, scarle, and petra
>scarle gets hit with the starbucks palestine drama
>rosemi is now being mocked globally becuase of the tekken tournament
Something is going to horribly wrong on Petra's 3D reveal. I think this company is utterly cursed.

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>>71237625
That's where the story gets a bit too complicated to explain in great detail but the short summary is
>Price rose, people started selling for various reasons, markets got involved and bailed out the short sellers/shortsellers just paid off the lenders instead of returning the stock
>Good number of people made good money off of disrupting the short seller's schemes and the short sellers lost millions in interest and having to pay for the now inflated stock price still
>A bunch of people holding on to the actual stock got greedy and decided "lmao what if we just never ever sell" and are now left holding mostly worthless stock believing they'll get bought out for a premium any day now

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>>71237595
>>71237632
>>71237718
Was it only included in the EN statement?? It was included as an anecdote, which they thought would help. Does anyone have scans of the OG posts etc when they were trying to pretend Doki had BPD to excuse her as mentally ill until they dropped it after a day or so when they realized that it could literally be used against them

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>>71234244
>TL:DR Yagoo is the one responsible for knifing the stocks today, The rest has been bubbling drama that has been just barely kept at bay by the language barrier, but it is now starting to seep through and investors might have even taken notice
I mean would you invest in a pump and dump "company" leaded by a trust fund baby that keeps getting fucked by their own stupidity? or real company with actual plans, investing, steadily growing?
Yagoo announcement was just the coup de grace.

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>>71237732
Is the Rosemi yab that bad? I heard she just locked up due to nerves which I imagine most people can actually relate to? Or am I missing something.

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>>71234406
>Yagoo was a cutthroat wallstreet hustler all this time, under the guise of his sweet, naive smile...
Look at this bottomless abyss colored eyes, no mercy for the weak.

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>>71237841
Rosemi completely hit the fan and lost every single match up. It was SO SO SO funny watching live

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>>71237818
The whole BPD thing only came about after the termination notice (after the black stream in fact) and was part of an effort by Nijisisters from the doxsite trying to fight Niji's PR battle for them. There's been some posts on here trying to push that narrative and a few mentions on reddit but people immediately blew up against that. It quickly became a meme
>You bullied a girl into attempting suicide?
>"It's not our fault, she's mentally ill!"
>You bullied a mentally ill girl into attempting suicide?!?!?
>"...."
Think the sisters just quickly realised how they were going to lose that fight and just changed their weird-ass list of excuses to no longer include any mention of BPD.

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>>71237841
It's not bad per se, but she's really going to be clowned on for a while. And Rose herself must be feeling like shit right now.

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>>71237953
>>71237971
I mean I imagine the culture at Nijisanji being incredibly oppressive right now even if she somehow doesn't believe in or care about the ongoing drama with Selen, and frankly this is the kind of shit that will happen when you're in a very stressful situation. Don't really know shit about Rosemi other than that she's pretty popular in Niji so I hope she can get the fuck out asap if she isn't part of the problem (her name hasn't really come up in regards to the Selen stuff so I imagine she's fine?)

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>>71234862
>Selen dying would have resulted in a crowdfunded lawsuit for her parents,
No need to, just showing Selen receipts to the public would do enough damage without wasting years and money trying to sue a black corpo in another country.

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>>71238122
She's getting a 3D model soon, so she's going nowhere. The Tekken tournament is a literal nothing burger although extremely funny because she had been bragging about her skill nonstop.

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>>71237964
Exactly lol I was there too. As I said, it was anecdotal info with no evidence etc, something they thought would help them until they realized it could be entirely used against them as being bullies etc.
It's just so embarrassing. If these bitches were all like 20 it'd be sot forgivable but it's just sad..

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>>71235420
IDK anon, If I commited sudoku I would leave receipts and instructions about how to not let them change the narrative, full scorched earth style, since I wouldn't be there for the consequences there is no need to hold back either.

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>>71238190
If anything, getting 3D in Nijisanji is a death flag, mate. Rosemi graduation incoming

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>>71237964
They mostly cannibalized it, but they still bring it up from time to time. Now it's all "she's BPD she took any slight against her as an attack" despite years of evidence to the contrary.
My favorite is them constantly screaming "PROVE IT" then backtracking any time you actually drop a link.

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>>71236018
Literally what's happening right now.

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>>71236131
>making more drama by blocking her instead of just letting her do whatever she wants
It doesn't make any sense after the first point anon but good try.

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What do you think is going through her head right now.

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>>71238375
It made them look utterly psychopathic and the whole argument was nonsense.
>So you're saying Selen, despite suffering from BPD, managed to work with NijisanjiEN for years and became their biggest female talent, and somehow Niji did nothing to assist her with this issue? They just fired her over it despite it not being a problem for years?
>"W-well uhm..."
Almost made me wonder if these were the people Niji was actually hiring for their PR, since we know they hire ESL highschoolers for management positions.

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>>71237791
I was expecting them to get hit harder but it's a good ending I guess, they were blatantly trying to make people sell with lies every fucking day.

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>>71238211
Most of them are in fact 20 or younger, especially the ones on the dox site

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>>71238526
The insane thing still is how the only thing they can bring up now is the tweet telling people to reupload things, and the two discord messages which still don't seem fake. Both of them are basically written like suicide notes, but they keep pushing this thing as if Selen somehow wanted to stay employed after literally telling her community to pirate Anycolor's IP... It's baffling. Like they can't imagine anybody who'd actually want to leave that place.

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>>71238449
You should probably try reading that again as you appear to be under the retarded idea that it was somehow saying Niji wasn't going full retard. Selen obviously had every reason to not want to respond to Niji anymore and demand to be let go, she got fucked over by them and she, intentionally or not, brilliantly cornered them into a position where they would just have to let her go and eat crow on the MV situation. They decided to do MUCH worse for no real reason other than presumably petty spite.

And you have a point in that blocking her MV was retarded drama that they should have avoided, but that just feeds into the very strongly supported idea that people at Niji had it out for her and were being specifically petty against her. I fully believe her claims of harassment are true just based on how that MV situation went down, but if there was any doubt left the black stream would have removed that from any reasonable individual.

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>>71238523

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>>71237791
>hedge funds got bailed
America protects the wealthy in the "free market", lol.

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>>71238649
It's actually baffling that they posted those discord messages. How can anyone read those and not understand
>First thing management did was apologise FOR BEING LATE
>Somehow management still doesn't have permissions despite the product having passed all stages of production
>In fact, it seems management wasn't even aware of the permissions they were supposed to obtain, despite this being one of their main responsibilities
>Instead of rushing to get things done and keeping in touch, they ghosted the talent and didn't even respond at all as the deadline passed
>Didn't provide confirmation as to whether the MV had to be delayed or if permissions were arranged, causing the talent to have to decide whether to delay the MV without instruction, or post the MV without instruction
And it still wasn't even clear
>Why it took so long to get permissions
>Why they needed permissions to use their own IP
And Niji still hasn't given an answer to these questions.

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>>71238652
The dragoons also have a history of Selen constantly apologizing on behalf of management for really, really petty shit.
I think the rrat where they absolutely 100% wanted Selen to talk about how she had to private the video due to her own actions so they could use it in the termination notice as an actual example of her acting out, and then when she refused, they panicked because they realized they wouldn't even have a single page to drum up against her, let alone 3. I can't see any other reason they'd have an entire paragraph dedicated to saying how Selen told her community that management privated the video instead of telling them... that management privated the video other than that they had some kind of narrative planned and they couldn't change it within the 2-3 hours of receiving the document and publishing the worst termination notice known to man.

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>>71238190
I don't think it's that bad desu, people will meme about it but will let it go with time.

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>>71238375
There is no point arguing with people like that.

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>>71238771
Not entirely. Hedge funds took a proper beating but they were never going to be forced to just sit in debt in perpetuity. It was a nice dream by the people holding Gamestop stock but they were always going to just pay off their loan directly or even just declare the debt as insoluble.

You're still right that America (or anywhere really) protects the wealthy in their supposedly free markets, just not quite like that.

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>>71238526
Grifter lawyer dunked the BPD argument since week 1, he also told you could actually sue people for that, did you notice how the sisters stopped using the BPD argument inmediately for like two weeks?, then started reusing it after that sporadically.

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>>71238814
>And Niji still hasn't given an answer to these questions.
Nobody is buying their BS, even for incompetence doesn't make any sense, now sabotaging does make a lot of sense if the context.

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>>71238951
It was before the lawyer even. As soon as it started spreading on twitter people were getting pissed, which led to the sisters deciding to remove it.

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>>71238899
>just pay off their loan directly
Can the common man just do the same? or it's a privilege for the wealthy?

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>>71237953
>>71237971
Hmm... interesting. What does Harada think about it?

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Hey anons, I have a real and serious question, where is the NDF? they're always raiding every thread but we don't even have false flaggers atm.
Just curious of why...

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>>71239094
They are in the lawyer thread.

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Hey sisters, i got you some pfps to match with your besties~

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>>71239142
Kek

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>>71238820
That rrat isn't a rrat, Niji themselves had admitted they tried to contact Selen but couldn't get through to her, and the fact that they skinwalked her account to try and buy time. We know they weren't trying to talk about her resigning because Dokibird herself has mentioned that they weren't responding to her which is why she ended up sending the documents over, two hours before the termination. The basic timeline is then that
>Selen is out of commission and isn't talking to Nijisanji anymore, no exact start date but we can assume it's shortly after the MV was taken down
>In an attempt to pacify the crowd Nijisanji posts on Selen's social media account about an accident, it's unclear if they knew about what happened at this point or if they just knew she was hospitalised, but the language used is concerning
>Messaging about accidents tend to be more specific and this message contained absolutely no information, people started to suspect this wasn't Selen herself
>People keep asking about what is going on, and Niji wants to avoid PR problems so they want Selen to do as she'd done before and take the blame and apologise
>Throughout this, several Niji talents post messages on social media reinforcing the narrative that Selen had done something wrong (and in hindsight, it's rather odd that they would make that assumption, and make it publicly, it smells of PR but could still just be spite or malicious compliance with a toxic work environment from the talents)
>After a period of silence where Niji can't reach Selen, she sends a lawyer to negotiate her resignation, from her own statements on the matter it sounds as though Selen wasn't personally talking to Nijisanji still
>Nijisanji doesn't respond to Selen's lawyer for an extended period of time, and Selen's lawyer suggests sending over her documents (which are described more like a suicide note than anything else) to back up their complaint and demand to Nijisanji
I don't think something with this much evidence can really be called a rrat anymore, that's just a factual outline of events.

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>>71238951
The grifter lawyer got BTFO hard on that one though, since it turns out that no, you can't actually sue people for that. Honestly the grifter lawyer has done more FOR Nijisanji's narrative than against, just by making the people that buy his bullshit look like idiots and the narratives they push look less credibly by association.

Take the contract nonsense for example. Anyone who has dealt with contracts in their life will immediately realise he's full of shit, but children and the inept took the narrative and ran with it, and now fewer people are talking about the actual horrid shit Niji did like the investor statement, termination notice or black stream. Anyone on the outside looking in seeing people sperg about the contracts will just dismiss the whole thing as childish misunderstandings now unless they dig deeper and see the real genuine shit this company did.

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>>71239054
Common man couldn't afford to, these hedge funds (tend to) have enough money to bail themselves out. For a common person holding a short position that is insoluble they'd probably look at bankruptcy as an option.

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>>71239094
>>71239139
Oh they're coming back: >>71239340 I was getting worried a thread without NDF retardation feels weird.

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>>71239414
>N-no stop hating on lawyer-chan!!
Anon, I get that you adore the guy for whatever bizarre reason, but you need a better excuse than "muh NDF" already when I made my position on Nijisanji painfully obvious.

Thanks for proving his supporters are all retarded though, it wasn't really needed but it's nice to get affirmation regardless.

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>>71239340
>Honestly the grifter lawyer has done more FOR Nijisanji's narrative than against
Amazing, this anon straight up walked in from another dimension.

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Imagine being Riku and having to into the meeting with this and a political scandal looming over your head. I wonder if the chances of EN not being canned became more unlikely after Cover announced their America branch. It would look extremely bad if they were to close the EN line at the same time the competition started gaining more ground in the territory.

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>>71239598
Feel free to offer any meaningful argumentation or reasoning to your childish spazzing anon. He's making the facts look weaker by diluting them with bullshit, that's what you're going to be trying to refute.

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>>71207401
Has he thought of putting a cockerel, a monkey or a small child on the board for these meetings?

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>>71239673
>It's actually stabilising at -5%
Wow that's fucking grim.

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Rrats compiled a report to be used at the stockholders meetings. Enjoy :^)

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>>71239791
A fucking monkey?!

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>>71239891
IT'S ALIVE!

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>>71239886
wat?

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>>71207401
>Please say something nice to him to encourage him to not give up.
No.

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>>71236468
Let me explain this in simple terms according to your original point if Doki was succesful in her attempt:
> If they don't want to show up they just won't. Even if they get fined as a result they can either just ignore it or absorb the cost and it would genuinely be negligible. In fact, the parents getting involved would be good for them as they can simply insist it's the parents own responsibility for not taking proper care of their daughter. I've seen that PR playbook and it works.
So you think this was the winning play
>Ordered to court to face a trial
>Don't even show or even pay in the event of a loss
>HAHAHA JP doesn't have extradition SUCK MY DICK, HAHA I have no assets in Canada you can't do shit
>Proceed to blame parents and shit all over a dead girl
>Business as usual

So to the wider public - you have a company who acts unethically and flouts the rule of law in countries it operates in. Then proceeds to shit all over a dead girl by blaming her parents
And you claim to understand PR? Damn, I hope you don't do PR for a living.

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>>71240563
Eugh... what a fucking retarded interpretation of what I said... Good christ where to even start...
>So to the wider public - you have a company who acts unethically and flouts the rule of law in countries it operates in.
There wouldn't be a case, or a trial, is the point. There IS no PR here as this would never even enter the public sphere even if it DID go to court, especially on a sensitive subject like suicide. If you don't even know the most basic shit like this then what the fuck are you doing in this discussion instead of following your first-year civics classes?
>Then proceeds to shit all over a dead girl by blaming her parents
Again, who else is to blame in this narrative? How is the company to blame for her suicide exactly? Without Selen accusing them there is no case. In reality Nijisanji is at fault not simply because one of their employees attempted suicide, they're at fault because they were strongly public implicated (by themselves!) as having harassed one of their employees to the point of attempting suicide. Again, this narrative ONLY EXISTS BECAUSE SELEN IS ALIVE.

Saying a parent is responsible for their child's well-being isn't some controversial statement retard.

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>>71239598
I didn't even bother to give him a YOU, his entire post is retarded.

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>>71239673
One more yab before the meeting, one more hit to and the yacht will sink forever.

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>>71239891
He's the part time lawyer, 7.60 usd/hr.

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Sisters this is the time where you tell us the stocks plummeting down one day before the meeting is a good thing.