/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

>Call out vshojo the nijisanji2
HOLY BASED
I WILL WACH HER NOW

[Anonymous No.]

>>71885047
Qrd?

[Anonymous No.]

>>71885047
not really a bold statement we can see that

[Anonymous No.]

>>71885146
guessing they are recruiting the leftovers scraps of nijien

[Anonymous No.]

>>71885047
give me the qrd

[Anonymous No.]

>>71885047
>Israel
I'm kneeling

[Anonymous No.]

>>71885047
qrd? what did she said??

[Anonymous No.]

>>71885047
>Everyone thought Gunrun was poaching NijiEN members
>Turns out NijiEN has been taking over VShojo instead
Oh...

[Anonymous No.]

>>71885362
>>71885372
>>71885327
>>71885146

>>71883946
>sayu calls VShojo a clique
>says she can never get into Vshojo because of certain members
>them working with certain people is quite disqualifying (probably Quinn?)
>implies they don't like her because she badmouthed Nijisanji
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSZ0Ui7rZx4&t=23199s

[Anonymous No.]

>>71885146
She practically said Vshoujo is also a clique so she'd never get in after a collab she had with Zen. Practically guaranteeing now no Vshoujo member will ever acknowledge her existence again.

Really makes you wonder how she gets rejected from so many "cliques" and if maybe she's the problem

[Anonymous No.]

>>71885047
Based on what?

[Anonymous No.]

>>71885482
I think she wouldn't have said all of that if she didn't shit talked Nina before lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>71885047
well yeah they're recycling nijisanji castoffs so that makes sense.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71885047
I say, let it happen. Let Niji take VShojo down with them so that Holo will have total monopoly

Good luck VShojokeks. You are gonna need it

[Anonymous No.]

>>71885443
So she’s saying the obvious and shit she’s been saying since she graduated? Good shit op

[Anonymous No.]

>>71885601
Oh shit
VDF is here

[Anonymous No.]

>>71885443
Based Based Based

[Anonymous No.]

>>71885047
i've seen a video recently where the only good thing Tectone could say about vshojo is that you get to keep your ip

[Anonymous No.]

It's been like that since Day 1. Did everyone forget about the joke that was their audition process?

[Anonymous No.]

>>71885482
>>71885560
Nina should have stayed in NijiEN and kept her insufferable fanbase contained to it

[Anonymous No.]

>>71885682
it confirmed the rrat

[Anonymous No.]

>>71885372
>bring in buckbroken cockroach
>she becomes a trojan horse for the rest of the clique
People were saying gunturd was a smart man. I guess a retarded seanigger who was elevated to being a CEO will still only be a retarded seanigger

[Anonymous No.]

>>71885667
That's their big selling point.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71885667
Unironically watching tectone. Kys.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71885712
Didn't confirm anything, it's not like she applied, she's just assuming she would be rejected. Even if that's correct, which it probably it, that's not some secret insider information.

[Anonymous No.]

Thanks for the info, anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>71885482
Problem is that the 'cliques' are all made up of the same niggers just in different corpos
in practice it's just the same clique reskinned

[Anonymous No.]

>>71885443
I'm starting to believe women are the actual problem

[Anonymous No.]

(meanwhile, Nina's new boytoy during their collab)

[Anonymous No.]

>>71885667
>Tectone
You fucking watch Tectone
now that's funny

[Anonymous No.]

>>71885635
Wtf is vdf

[Anonymous No.]

>>71885443
This isn't anything new. If anything, the bit about Niji(EN?) management being numberfags and ban all collabs with VTubers with smaller numbers than them is more concerning

[Anonymous No.]

>>71885818
what happen

[Anonymous No.]

>>71885841
Nta, but probably vshojo defense force

[Anonymous No.]

>>71885773
Nah this guy simp for VShojo the most

He would never call VShojo a black company that he has been holding grudge against

[Anonymous No.]

>>71885841
Russian paratroopers

[Anonymous No.]

>>71885825
Shut the fuck up Tectonic plate nigga. Please graduate from life.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71885560
It's extremely funny to me that a woman in her thirties was mind broken so hard by a kid ten or more years younger than her that she self sabotages herself multiple times over it. Making a zoomer your enemy because he mocked your document is as menhera as it gets

[Anonymous No.]

>>71885849
>Vshoujo block sayu collab
>Niji management
do vshoukek really?

[Anonymous No.]

>>71885849
>Niji(EN?) management being numberfags and ban all collabs with VTubers with smaller numbers than them
ver collabs with literal whos all the time and the first stage dudes

[Anonymous No.]

>>71885047
>Elira scheming, Tazumi's head under her feet
>"Selen, Pomu. This is a gift for you two."
>said as she bought all the IDs for her friends
>new vshoujo's wave now will include "Selen, Pomu, Elira...
We are so back, bro.

[Anonymous No.]

Didn't veibae and silver already confirm the existence of a clique

[Anonymous No.]

>>71885047
So is this the factions map now?

[Anonymous No.]

>>71885047
No shit, everyone knows vshojo is an exclusive club for nepotism hires and their orbiters.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71885948
It wasn't the part about VShojo, it was another part
https://www.youtube.com/live/QSZ0Ui7rZx4?si=z-StHEQYICMU81hI&t=24226

[Anonymous No.]

>>71885948
literally collabed with Zen last week

[Anonymous No.]

>>71885047
Based but she called herself famous which is cringe

[Anonymous No.]

>>71885773
This dude will never badmouth vshojo. Dude makes bank from them and from phaseconnect

[Anonymous No.]

>>71885443
The rrats called it again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71885560
>shit talked Nina
I love seeing revisionism in real time. All Sayu said was one other member was unhappy with Niji. Didn't even namedrop Nina, it was just an easy assumption to make. That was the "shit talk". Of course Nina would have you believe Sayu sent rape threats to her mother.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71885047
>Exonerated
>Immediately say dumb shit
Karma

[Anonymous No.]

....I mean Vshojo IS a clique. That's kind of their thing, and they don't even try to hide it (because why lie?)
They're a circle of friends moreso than a "proper" vtuber agency. New hires cannot not be nepo hires.

[Anonymous No.]

certain Vshojo members unfollowing or ignoring Doki were the biggest tell of how garbage that place is. That and Geega slowly retreating to her old indie friends.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71886087
RRATBROS
WE EATING GOOD

[Anonymous No.]

>>71885818
>steal Enna's fucktoy
I don't like Nina but this is funny
>>71885924
Anon both Nina and Zaion are 30+

[Anonymous No.]

>>71886087
>Taking anything a scorned menhera says as fact
>Except if it's Rushia or Coco

This is the HoloDrone playbook

[Anonymous No.]

Holy based. Sayu really is taking down corpo vtubing. She should do Phase Connect next.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71885988
Yup. Anyone with half a brain would've dropped VShojo after the first 3 left and alluded how awful it was. But this was at the same time Henya debuted so retards got distracted. Now people act shocked after they realize how shady the corpo is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71885443
based

[Anonymous No.]

>>71885825
>>71885747
nah i just saw a clip about it

[Anonymous No.]

>>71885973
IDK. I certainly don't watch Niji males, but that's what she said

[Anonymous No.]

>>71886006
smells like massive bullshit people in nijien collab with smaller people all the time.
Not even going to point out all the random collabs uki/ver or anyone has done with people that are small.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71886088
She literally namedropped Nina and told her 800 viewers about something she said out of context in a private conversation they had, then called her previous coworkers and friends backstabbers, then shit on her own artist

[Anonymous No.]

>>71886286
>Click techkek clips

[Anonymous No.]

>>71886234
>everything is under light
>uhuh, shadyyyy
Retard. Everyone knows vshoujo is a small family corpo. They can hire whoever they are friends with.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71886313
It's ok if you're in the clique.

[Anonymous No.]

Does this mean she'll never collab with Zen ever again

[Anonymous No.]

>>71886296
it's just blatantly untrue though. Uki flirting with random indie male of the week #35 invalidates this

[Anonymous No.]

>>71885443
holy sour grapes

[Anonymous No.]

>>71885948
zen and kson collabed with sayu dumb fuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>71886170
Yes, and Zaion is still an immature menhera who picks fights with kids over ten years younger than her because she was made fun of in which these fights only work to make her situation even WORSE. One of the reasons she was fired was liking comments saying "fuck Kyo" among others. And now she practically severed any connections to Vshoujo after she shit talks the whole company after collabing with one of them because she has to shit talk Quinn. Proving she also lied about her "accidentally" liking a comment hating on Kyo.

What a dumb bitch

[Anonymous No.]

>>71886375
Zen is likely on the way out along with Froot and possibly Haruka who gained the least from VSJ

[Anonymous No.]

>>71886399
or even talking about people like ipn and other random valo people nijien will play with all of them being like 2 views or that don't even really stream at all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71885047
isn't vshojo kinda isolated right now?
they barely collab outside of their own org
Filian hasn't collabed with Melody or Henya in almost half a year

[Anonymous No.]

didnt she just collab with them

[Anonymous No.]

>>71886440
being so salty is ugly Kyo

[Anonymous No.]

>>71886218
She won't, phase was the first corpo that reached out and collab with her multiple time. Most of the hags in phase are also her friend.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71886412
>They thought kson would tardwangle MataraKan
>Sorry, Sayu, there's nothing we could do
Mfw MataraKan controlled them??? Is the rrat about Ironlung being a the pseudo queen real?

[Anonymous No.]

>>71886494
yes, she wants to join them and is upset she got denied

[Anonymous No.]

>>71886476
they literally do outside collabs everyday on twitch anon. you need to actually do a bit of research first before you make those rrats

[Anonymous No.]

>how are you angry with a kid
>a 24 year old kid
Would anyone here like to explain what >>71886440 meant by this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>71886337
Oh man that sounds awful! I'm sure someone must've clipped it right! 800 people, there must be several clips oh God I hope nobody posts said clip here!

[Anonymous No.]

>>71885773
>Implying False would actually perform unbiased news reporting
Good joke

[Anonymous No.]

>>71886476
They collab almost everyday with outside fleshtubers/vtubers, what?

[Anonymous No.]

>>71886560
Nah she didn’t get denied she’s assuming they wouldn’t let her in because Matara avoids her, probably true though

[Anonymous No.]

>>71886313
>some nijisanji livers are exempt from certain rules in niji
gee what a shock

[Anonymous No.]

>>71886598
don' worry
i will cover it

[Anonymous No.]

>>71886634
who?

[Anonymous No.]

>>71886587
Lurk moar

[Anonymous No.]

>>71886440
Have you done a testosterone levels test, Kyo? Maybe you should because it looks quite low already.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71886559
bro your autism is making you slur your speech beyond retardation. sorry kid but we generally dont participate in your pissing contest with blacksanji so you gotta lay off the schizo zoomie lingo and talk to me in grownup words for me to understand you

[Anonymous No.]

>>71886652
>Didn't know vt superstar
GRIM

[Anonymous No.]

>>71886652
That's Pew Die Pie.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71886574
Quinn is 21. Kyo joined Niji when he was 19. Zaion was fired when Kyo would have been 20 and she is in her 30s. He's practically a kid to her and she has chosen him to be her enemy because he made a joke about her document. Laughable

[Anonymous No.]

>>71886625
she was in nijien for pretty much a month if you count all her time being suspended.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71886694
Just like his viewers count, sadly(?)

[Anonymous No.]

>>71886625
And it turns out the only person not exempt from that “rule” is the person who was only in the company for 3 months, who probably just took some random shit a manager told her once out of context because she wanted to play with her PL friends immediately or some shit and assumed it would always apply

[Anonymous No.]

>>71886762
>thinking the only thing you can see is the only possible thing Kyo could have done to piss her off

[Anonymous No.]

Are we going to ignore the 6:43:54 part of her saying the agency had a rule where you cant collab with anybody whos numbers are smaller than you? [kind of assumed this already]

[Anonymous No.]

>>71886815
Dude is already a 3view on both platforms and he said he wanted to drop youtube. He is fucked unless his vshojo/indie friends boost him

[Anonymous No.]

>>71886762
>a legal adult in the equivalent position to someone else is...le kid
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[Anonymous No.]

>>71886762
21? why is his hairline cooked then
>>71886897
They already are boosting him but why watch the wigger pov when you can watch big tit roach pov?

[Anonymous No.]

>>71885809
the niji men are honorary women then

[Anonymous No.]

>>71886574

https://gprivate.com/6a522

[Anonymous No.]

>>71886928
I mean they can start raiding him after ending streams.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71886881
This is logical though?
>hey, I've just joined but I want to promote my 2view friend
The obvious correct answer in this case in any corpo would be 'No'.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71886881
if you read above there are countless examples that proves this wrong

[Anonymous No.]

>>71885443
She also confirms the 2% (again) at 6:33:15

[Anonymous No.]

>>71886881
That's objectively not true, collabs with smaller vtubers aren't even uncommon. I'm guessing the people who she wanted to collab with were like 2view hobbyists, where it would have seemed very odd.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71886971
Favortism and exceptions exist

[Anonymous No.]

>>71887008
lol.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71886906
>ESL retard doesn't know what kid means
A kid means a young person, not just a child. This is someone in her 30s picking a fight with a college kid over a joke.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71886964
didnt hololive allow 1view collabs on the jp side

[Anonymous No.]

>>71885924
Given that he also at the very least helped leak her home address and passport number, I could see her wanting to punch the kid in the face.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71885047
>>71885443
Yes I think I won't be watching any Vshojo anymore (except for Henya, who is innocent) because they have no quality filter and let such a disgusting wigger grifter in

[Anonymous No.]

On a side note, did 39daph have conflict with Lacari? Last i checked they were pretty close so i was surprised sayu raided Lacari after her stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71886881
>the whole agency are numbermonkeys
Grim.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71886675
Thank you for posting the clip anon, I can't belive Sayu said ALL that! How is this not known?

[Anonymous No.]

>>71885443
Everything she says is very obvious and pretty much neutral until
>9:47
Which starts off reasonable, but
>implies they don't like her because she badmouthed Nijisanji
Don't Matara and Kuro badmouth Niji at least once a fortnight?

Also isn't kinda sad if you don't like that VShojo can't be your goal if you've already been through the cliquey meat grinder that was NijiEN and found that it wasn't just not the right clique for you (like Kuro and Matara) but the whole system of rules and regulations and having to deal with the whims and hypocricy of a very twitterbrained "politically correct" corporate ruleset wasn't for you? At least Doki can be like "nah corpos aren't for me, I'm done with that". There are other ways to grow as a streamer, being bitter about how cliquey vshojo (& the twitch vtuber meta by extension) is isn't gonna do her any favors.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71887098
Lacari is friends with Sayu. Everyone fucking knows each other.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71885443
>says she can never get into Vshojo because of certain members
She quite literally was fired and returned way before Nina actually graduated and joined, or she did the thing that got her mad. No one cared about her (in the group) and had no reason to care for her, as no one had interacted with her prior to this and it would see opportunistic.
Also calling a company a clique by basically not trying to create a hostile environment is better than the thing she's knows companies do (such as Nijisanji) by listening to their talents ain't a bad thing, and it hasn't worked bad for them as a company.

They lost 4 talents, each probably with personal drama, but still retained their IP, money, current (at the time) sponsorships and deals like the Smite and Vei figure.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71886881
Eh thats actually can be interpreted like: "don't boost your friends that early". I saw a bunch of collabs with small corpos by nijiEN livers. Probably because of how shoto leeched from luxiem and dipped they made that precaution

[Anonymous No.]

>>71887082
>Some anon who named themselves Kyo on a doll hair weaving website doxxed her so it was actually Kyo
Yup. Sayufags are as retarded and immature as her

[Anonymous No.]

>>71887062
>A kid means a young person, not just a child.
Deranged ESL.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71887082
It's true I personally saw distributing the flyers with her home address and social security number.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71887082
When did he ever do that

[Anonymous No.]

>>71887202
That's the thing! He didn't

[Anonymous No.]

>>71885818
Honeys really took a massive L on Nina. They put all their chips on the table only for her to go mask off and chummy up with this wigger snake.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71887224
>>71887174
>ignoring that they did this literally 30 minutes before the drop and beat for beat described the post
>NO IT WAS SOME RANDOM ANON

[Anonymous No.]

>>71887202
He didn't but retards on this board love to parrot unfounded rrats instead of ones with evidence

[Anonymous No.]

>>71885443
I recommend keep watching after that she get's even more based.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71885732
How is he retarded? He's gonna be making a metric ass load of money from this. He'll be able buy Riku's Yacht cash

[Anonymous No.]

>>71887127
Matara never really bad mouthed Nijisanji. But it is ironic how Sayu “apologized” to her on False’s channel and now she’s walking back and acting like the only reason Matara would be mad at her is because she shit talked Niji when the real reason should be obvious. Makes her seem insincere

[Anonymous No.]

>>71885818
the design is something a 9 year old would think is cool

[Anonymous No.]

>>71886448
>More OG Vshojo members leave
>Replaced by ex NijiEN livers
Grim

[Anonymous No.]

>>71886881
Nijisanji probably has such a guideline (don't think it'll be rule). It's something that Japanese content creators say you have to do to grow. So I can imagine Nijisanji employing that as a guideline.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71887251
honeys were terrible when she was in NijiEN constantly whining, shitposting and acting smug and they have gotten even worse after she joined Vshojo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71887371
That would be fucking hilarious. Maybe they can pick up Riku too once he bails.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71887371
>They're led by Irongrift instead of Elira
Double Demon Grift

[Anonymous No.]

>>71887371
Ethyria and some Luxiem in Vshojo or as orbiters in a few years does not seem so crazy anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71887127
>Don't Matara and Kuro badmouth Niji at least once a fortnight?
Yes, not directly, probably to avoid any legal consequences.
I don't think they have done more than just dabble that it's like night and day from being on Niji to being either a free agent or with a company such a VShojo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71887343
Nah the real reason is that Mata is a petty bitch, Sayu fucked up apologizing for that shit.

[Anonymous No.]

sayufags once again proving they're as retarded as she is, once again if shit happens its never her fault, its always everyone and everything elses
fucking mindbroken menhera rumao

[Anonymous No.]

>>71887266
Schizophrenic delusions aren't to be taken seriously. Usually when people hate an internet personality, they make a list of everything she did wrong and some retards will doxx them to stir the pot. You're pretty naive if you think everyone who was shitting on Zaion was just a Niji member

[Anonymous No.]

>>71887456
Apologized for it but now she’s saying Matara was mad because she shat on Nijisanji which everyone knows isn’t the reason so she just looks petty and insincere

[Anonymous No.]

ENVtuber watchers are so addicted to drama.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71887266
The one who posted in the doxxsite was probably someone related to NIjiEN, but not even Kyo would be stupid enough to use his own name in an anonymous board.
Kyo's confirmed crimes are:
>Agreeing with a twitter rando on calling out Zaion when she did the rape joke
>Laugh at Sayu's document
Kyo is a snake, but that's about it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71887338
>He'll be able buy Riku's Yacht cash
Kek ESL-chama, he's spending all that money on botting embedrat

[Anonymous No.]

>>71885443
Based. Shes joined the ranks of the few to call out their bullshit

[Anonymous No.]

>>71887535
ENvtubers dont make content they just play games

[Anonymous No.]

>>71887491
I suppose Doki as well oh right that is already your narrative.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71887491
>Makes document claiming she was unjustly fired
>Admits to doing everything they said she did that got her fired
>"But look at my dying cat"

How the fuck did anyone fall for this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>71887202
He liked a bunch of tweets criticizing her tied to her termination notice, including the one that leaked her address and another that leaked her passport#. There's also a less solid Doxxsite post of someone claiming to be him claiming to have been the original leaker, and that the operation to axe Zaion had been a success.

He was bantered so hard that he had to mute himself in one of their collabs, so that also goes to motivation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71887548
When did he laugh at her doc anyway?

[Anonymous No.]

>>71887127
>Also isn't kinda sad if you don't like that VShojo can't be your goal if you've already been through the cliquey meat grinder that was NijiEN and found that it wasn't just not the right clique for you (like Kuro and Matara) but the whole system of rules and regulations and having to deal with the whims and hypocricy of a very twitterbrained "politically correct" corporate ruleset wasn't for you? At least Doki can be like "nah corpos aren't for me, I'm done with that". There are other ways to grow as a streamer, being bitter about how cliquey vshojo (& the twitch vtuber meta by extension) is isn't gonna do her any favors.
Yeah, to a certain extent is just to mention
>hey, Matara hates me

[Anonymous No.]

>>71887508
>poster has clear insider information
>"uhm...it was just predictable..."
hmmm

[Anonymous No.]

>>71887554
>>ESL-chama
No one liked you in school, did they?

[Anonymous No.]

>>71887612
>He was bantered so hard that he had to mute himself in one of their collabs, so that also goes to motivation.
Mute himself, and delete the vod.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71887619
https://files.catbox.moe/vq248n.mp4

[Anonymous No.]

>>71887612
He never liked any of that shit though

[Anonymous No.]

>>71887426
They already hired former NijiJP COO as their strategy advisor. Sorry Riku, the slot is filled

[Anonymous No.]

>>71887601
Sayufags bringing Doki into their retardfest again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71887127
Not directly, but they both kinda implied that it's not good there. They seem to be on fairly OK terms with the livers, but could also be them just being professional (personal conflict stays personal)
Also don't think VShojo gives a shit about Nijisanji when they have kson there.

The problem with Sayu is that she tends to shit-talk others and fairly quickly sees enemies/adversity. To an extent you can't fault her, because her mental state must be bad with what she's gone through, and a lot of bad stuff that happened is undeserved, but she is creating a vicious cycle that won't get her out of this bad mental state. Instead of grasping opportunities, she closes them off.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71887619
NTA but one of the instances I vaguely remember:
>some Enna x Kyo collab, in about a day after Zaion's tweetlonger was posted
>Enna: says something
>Kyo: yeah, I'll go make a tweetlonger about that
>both laugh
Truly a nothingburger.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71887612
Didn't he collab with her again after that stream?

[Anonymous No.]

>my entire personality is i hate nijisanji
Youre not going to get more viewers this way

[Anonymous No.]

>>71887127
There are other ways to grow vshojo is just the most laidback and easiest way to coast and make a living you really dont have to try once youre there

[Anonymous No.]

>>71887612
No, he didn't. Here's what actually happened.
>Kyo's PL likes tweet that says sexual assault should be taken seriously
>Kyo removed his like and said he assumed the tweet was talking about the genshin groomer and apologizes for the confusion
>Sayu gets fired then releases document
>Kyo makes a joke about releasing a Google document to get someone canceled in a collab

That's it. This is why Sayu hates Quinn. Any schizophrenic babble is ignored

[Anonymous No.]

>>71885443
I meam what made you think it wasn't given most of them are/were friends and to get in you are kinda required to have been friends with at least one of them in the past.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71887510
Given that all she did was reveal that Nijisanji was making her feel worthless and depressed - with enemies like that, who needs friends? Somehow suspect attacking her family was actually the bigger sin.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71885443
That's the most obvious shit ever. People forget because they've zoomer brain and niji yabs make their attention spam even shorter

[Anonymous No.]

>>71887643
>Insider information
>Is public information since it all happened on camera

Are Sayufags real?

[Anonymous No.]

>>71887838
Yeah it's funny how the first part gets blown up to some degree? he replied to one of those Invicta dudes and didn't realize it was about zaion

[Anonymous No.]

Even if what Sayu says is true, isn't it a very bad career move to say stuff like this? Zen was already collabing with her, and other VShojo members besides Matara might have also collabed with her. By saying this isn't she risking getting completely shunned by all the VShojo members and their many many indie orbiters just when people started warming up to her again?

[Anonymous No.]

>>71885443
idk about sayu but nyan and vei have never said anything good about vshojo and have hinted at having terrible contracts and never benefitting from being in vshojo. every expense is privately paid and vshojo always takes a share for whatever reason. Idk about the group dynamic though which this seems to focus on. I'd say she's dodging a huge bullet just by not being in vshojo

[Anonymous No.]

>>71887857
It was a combination of her leaking something she said in private to use for her self centered rant AND her shitting on the people that Matara valued as friends probably yes, if you don’t think the former had a lot to do with it then sorry you probably have severe autism or something

[Anonymous No.]

She is still bitter she got rejected from the Vshojo Audition and this was before she even joined Nijisanji. It has nothing to do with clique or ex Nijisanji members. That's basically it.
She's grifting burning bridges while she just collabed with Zentreya and Kson two Vshojo prominent members. There's no cliques in Vshojo. It's an agency you don't have to participate in group activities, you just have to do your own thing if you're /in/.
Biggest example to counter her bullshit argument of 'there people who don't lie me there" is Henya. Henya context recruitment was after a big harassments campaign which some Vshojo members partake in for both sides.
Henya collab with Pippa and no one bats an eye knowing full well there's some vshojo members who would never collab with Pippa. That's Talent Freedom as long as you're respectful.
Sayu is just a bridge burner at this point and found her self a market of grifting shenanigans. Sayufags are fed on hate and drama and to keep them she has to throw a bone or two. At the end of the day her fans will turn on her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71886762
Average american, an adult is an adult, no matter their age difference.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71887450
I suppose there is a huge different between making implications and leaking a ton of shit that might make vshojo corporate draw a big red circle around you to protect their own current corporate interests, that's true. That said, it's rather naive to think that lighting the match that led to the eventuall fire that's currently engulfing the corpo you just left, no matter how justified, would ring alarm bells in every other corpo.
>>71887733
Eh, based on the vid poste earlier I kinda blame her chat to a degree, but she should also just shut them down or ignore them when they ask questions about stuff like this.
>>71887806
If they expand this will inevitably get less true, hence why they're so reluctant to expand much beyond chuubas that are already popular and can bring over their own fans. To be fair there's a reason they employed Matara (who was already a 4view acted at least VShojo-levels of professional in NijiEN and got an official graduation) and weren't interested at all in Sayu (a 3view who, as I said, tried to bury the company). If you're gonna be the type to start fires and you want to be succesful you can't coast and you can't get by just bitching about this and that corpo.

[Anonymous No.]

how come i never hear about sayu until she says something about another vtuber or corp

[Anonymous No.]

>>71888014
You aren't taking into account the various complaints that came up when 3 of their top 4 streamers abandoned the company a ways back.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71885443
>sayu calls VShojo a clique
people are not aware of this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>71888060
>would
Meant wouldn't.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71888014
Now that's an interesting turn.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71886440
I really do not understand why you would be this salty towards Zaion other than being some weird sister cult member. Are you that butthurt the blowjobber has not streamed in like 2 months that you have to take it all out on the prisoners who escaped the company.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71887947
Anon, Sayu has talked about this plenty of times. The first time that she said Vshoujo was a clique was literally months ago. In fact, her collab with Zen was after she talked about how some of the Vshoujo members dislike her.

This board is slow as shit and loves to create drama out of nothing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71885443
>sayu calls VShojo a clique
>says she can never get into Vshojo because of certain members
>https://youtu.be/QSZ0Ui7rZx4?t=23333
>It doesn't matter what the people in charge think
>It feels like it matters what the talents think, which is good.
Her point is basically that she feels "sad" that she won't join because she doesn't have good relationships with the members but somehow she thinks VShojo as a company, will actually pick her up? For fucking what? Outside of that point that's just plain delusional, what good does Sayu bring to the company?

>them working with certain people is quite disqualifying (probably Quinn?)
The comment did mention Quinn which again, one thing that stays true is that anyone can collab with anyone even if it's qualifying or not, Froot can collab with Doki as much Henya with Pippa, Zen and Kson can collab or appear or talk to Nux as much as Mouse can play with Hasan. It's quite literally what they always say about talent freedom.

>implies they don't like her because she badmouthed Nijisanji
>the comment was "I really like Mouse, Mel, and Henya. But the revelation that nobody currently or formerly in 'that' company have said boo to you has turned me against Vshojo"
While it's true they didn't outright spoke about Nijisanji during both Doki's and Zaion's problems, it's a reach to assume they are in good terms with the company for the most part. Choosing to stay quiet is not agreeing, is not also denying it, it's up to interpretation. For what it's worth, Ironmouse's background has no single reference to Nijisanji anymore, a thing she had in the past.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71888014
in the stream she herself said that before the problem was the low number of viewers she has

That has been solved but now Matara and her SJW crew dont want her to join

[Anonymous No.]

>>71888014
It's surprising how Vshoujo obviously was in wrong for this audition yet vcucks still try to twist things.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71888014
>There's no cliques in Vshojo.
>There's no cliques in Vshojo.
>There's no cliques in Vshojo.
>There's no cliques in Vshojo.
>There's no cliques in Vshojo.
Holy fucking cope.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71887947
She just wants to do her own thing with her own circle at this point, and I don't blame her. If people would rather jump in the bucket of crabs then so be it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71887947
Zen is above these things. Not sure about everyone else. But it also is a lack of maturity.

If anyone criticizing not even you yourself but just the company and that makes them become a Persona non grata instantly? You do that and it's a great way to get rid of every real friend you have

[Anonymous No.]

>>71886087
Lisan al-Ghaib!

[Anonymous No.]

>>71888144
They know, but pointing it out is forbidden desu.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71888014
>Sayufags are fed on hate and drama and to keep them she has to throw a bone or two. At the end of the day her fans will turn on her.
lmao you just have to take a look at her thread when she starts talking about drama, everyone wants her to shut the fuck up. Sayu has a fanbase despite the drama, not thanks to it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71888014
HAHAHAHAHA SHE'S SALTY SHE WAS REJECTED

[Anonymous No.]

>>71887947
She does later praise Zen and considers her based. According to her Zen is her own individual like the rest of Vshojo and she has no issues with the majority of the talent like her. Whether this burns bridges with School we'll have to see. I think Sayu's connection to Silvervale is underplayed as well, she was her main connection to Vshojo when she first applied and now that she's gone all she has is Kson.

[Anonymous No.]

posting zenner in the bait thread!

[Anonymous No.]

>>71887715
Sisters are learning. They stopped using Dookie because it makes them easily to spot. Nice try! Voxfag? Voxslut? Voxwhore? Voxmonkeys? Voxistutes? Pick one paki-chan~!

[Anonymous No.]

>>71887062
stop kidding around

[Anonymous No.]

>>71885443
She's just right though

[Anonymous No.]

>>71885809
don't make me tap the sign

[Anonymous No.]

>>71888333
>>71888014
>She is still bitter she got rejected from the Vshojo Audition
Where does she say she ever auditioned for Vshojo? She merely says her numbers weren't good enough back then, and that while they are now, she wouldn't do it because of personal conflicts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71888289
The Kwizatz Haderach- HE WITH PERFECT VISION

[Anonymous No.]

>>71885818
ugh why would she validate this trash

[Anonymous No.]

>>71886762
Kyocuck- sorry Quinncucks think he only rubbed her the wrong way at the very end?
Holy level of cope.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

THE RRATS ARE WINNING
>THE RRATS ARE WINNING
THE RRATS ARE WINNING
>THE RRATS ARE WINNING
THE RRATS ARE WINNING

[Anonymous No.]

>>71888489
Doesn't the tweet imply she did?
>thank you so much for the opportunity

[Anonymous No.]

It's not like she's doing poorly. Being an indie with 3-4 digit viewers is a dream come true for most people. I don't know why she'd even entertain the idea of joining Vshojo since she obviously wouldn't fit and I don't think ex-Nijis like her at all since the Twitter brainrot is terminal in them as much as it is in their fans.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71888516
How do matara fans feel about this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>71888222

Clique starts to gain momentum

Until recently it was like you say, the talents collaborate with whoever they want to.

But after the entrance of the clique, now there starts to be "noise" about who is right and who is wrong.

The next step will be to convince the staff to ban either a certain game/person companywide.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71887286
Poor autistic kid got eviscerated. Sayu forgets her fans are comprised of neurodivergents that aren't the best communicators. Our menhera hag needs to hold her fire sometimes. "be careful" is usually a threat.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71888593
For today only all Momos will wear the limited-edition black and white skin

[Anonymous No.]

>>71888014
thank you Vshojo PR representative :-)

[Anonymous No.]

Oh no, Sayu running her mouth and alienating herself #4865

[Anonymous No.]

>>71887797
She mogs half of niji

[Anonymous No.]

>>71888699
>oh no, these twitch whores and nijisanji slaves won't collab with me
anyways~

[Anonymous No.]

>>71888417
Hey aren't you the Troon that calls everyone pagpag

[Anonymous No.]

Man, this is getting too complicated
I preferred when we could all just shit on nijisanji together

[Anonymous No.]

You idiots will be defending Matara even after an other Ethyria joins.
>She wants to help the ex-nijis because it was a bad place, unless they were terminated
>She saw Enna's CP and didn't report it
She is complicit. They're going to make VShojo look worse than Nux ever did. Everywhere they go becomes The Badlands, elephant bones and all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71888699
talent freedom bros... you are free as long as you follow the clique... am i right, talfreebros...

[Anonymous No.]

>>71885047
Vshojo is disgusting, that's why some of the main members quit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71887127
You compare doki to sayu, but sayu was betrayed by EVERYONE. Only a few out of the majority stood behind her.
Doki is standing on solid ground because bits and pieces of sayu and others give it stability.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71888630
Yes, anon
I'm sure what ever you are smoking off told you the truth

[Anonymous No.]

>>71888777
>We've always hated Nijisanji
>We've always hated VShojo (excluding Henya)
I don't see what's so complicated

[Anonymous No.]

>>71888855
Do you like any of the ones who left at all?

[Anonymous No.]

>>71888630
Nah the next step will be to exclude Henya from 'VShojo Unofficial Group Activity Discord Server' because she committed the grave sin of liking a tweet by 'persona non-grata #46'.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71888144
Ironmouse is the Elira of Vshojo.

[Anonymous No.]

The Clique and Nijisanji are two different things. Both exist without the other.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71888900
NTA but Vei and Silver

[Anonymous No.]

>>71888938
>liking vei and silver
nasty.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71888222
>what good does Sayu bring to the company
If you hear her talk about her time in Niji, she also said that she taught the livers so much about streaming, etc. She is a bit of a narcicist, be it naturally or out of her current situation.

Don't want to shit on her that much. She can be a very comfy streamer to watch if it weren't for those bad moments. But these moments always put me off of watching her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71888868
Yeah people forget that Zaion got crucified for the grave sin of being funny in 2023

[Anonymous No.]

>>71888938
parasocial retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>71888630
Except there isn't. Zen collabed with Sayu and Froot collabed with Doki and Mata wasn't mad at either of them. It looks more like Sayu is just mad Vshojo doesn't take her /in/ than anything else.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71887127
>found that it wasn't just not the right clique for you (like Kuro and Matara)
The problems that Kuro and Matara had aren’t necessarily clique related but Sayu’s definitely were partially related to the clique. Nina seemed to mostly dislike the company rather than the livers, and Mysta seemed to just hate dealing with the luxiemsisters (can’t really blame him there). Also if Vshojo keeps making moves on Niji, then there is a genuine concern that the clique could reform to some extent, and since Vshojo doesn’t have any wrangling their could potentially be even worse issues.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71888014
And who got in that auditions?
It wasnt just Haruka that was already a friend of the current members?

[Anonymous No.]

SEAfag hours
Nobody in here watches anyone involved

[Anonymous No.]

>>71888184
Why do I not like Zaion? Glad you asked

>Genshin shill
>Blatantly unprofessional as she makes a coworker her enemy because of a slighted ego
>Is mad she was fired so she writes a document saying she was unjustly fired
>Admits to doing everything she was fired for
>Pity baits in document
>Is "backstabbed" by her friends in Niji because they didn't defend her and talk about her dishonesty
>Backstabs Nina and uses a private conversation to further her agenda
>Is surprised Nina has a problem with it
>Years go by and she still isn't over Niji
>Proceeds to leak a "silencing contract" to a grifter cementing the fact she's less professional than a teenage part timer
>Said contract basically just says to not defame them and they'll say she quit
>Gets collab with big Vshoujo member
>Immediately backstabs by shit talking the company because her "enemy" got in and she didn't

Did I miss anything?

[Anonymous No.]

>>71889022
>Mata wasn't mad at either of them
Not publicly she wasn't, can't say privately she was or was not.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71888630
>212s.png
This is eternal september. It is what happens to every community. And it has happened to /vt/ as a community already. If we go by stages, it is now in stage 6 of this image. Although a lot of oldfags have already left for more obscure spaces to enjoy their hobby. Its almost the final stage where the entire industry will try to appeal to the newfags.
You can see the backlash against unicorns, you see people have multiple oshis, you see chubas do facereveals, etc.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71889022
>/in/
lurk more weirdo

[Anonymous No.]

>>71889022
>Joining the company whose fans will dig up that one clip from my previous tenure in a company and lynch me is a GREAT idea
I've been saying this ever since she came back but Sayu really is kinda stupid

[Anonymous No.]

>>71889022
And Sayu isn't /in/ because she leaked shit that Matara said in private

[Anonymous No.]

>>71887995
>every expense is privately paid
Any links of this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>71888888
fukin CHECKED damn, ain't that the truth

[Anonymous No.]

>>71885047
Trully the Cassandra of Vtubers

[Anonymous No.]

>>71889092
tl:dr
>she called out their bullshit and came with receipts to proof it

[Anonymous No.]

>>71888938

[Anonymous No.]

>>71888184
one can dislike both sayu and niji, brainlet

[Anonymous No.]

>>71889092
Oh, so you are just a sister. Carry on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71889102
Yes, because Matara is so pissed off with Zen that she totally didn't collab with her two days in a row, and gave her some gifted subs to initiate the chat to gift her subs, that fucking Russian runt. Froot is currently dead due to Apex being the dead tho

[Anonymous No.]

>>71887127
>Don't Matara and Kuro badmouth Niji at least once a fortnight?
no they never did. angry post yes but never once cursing about it or against them openly. not even on their second account

[Anonymous No.]

>>71888593
you want a real answer? not good.

helldivers was fire content, bricky clicked instantly with bricky and haruka.
couldnt watch 20min of terraria and missed that third game she was suggesting to play entirely.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71889163
Yeah, I got one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Q7GyjVOweA

oh, sorry, it's the opposite of that other anon's statement

[Anonymous No.]

>>71889110
>You can see the backlash against unicorns
fuck off clown, unicorns were hated from the beginning

[Anonymous No.]

>>71889180
how dare she stand up for herself

[Anonymous No.]

Does no one remember the part in the document where she said she almost killed herself because of the harassment? Did that only become bad sometime between her and Doki's termination?

[Anonymous No.]

>>71885443
>>71885047
>sayu calls VShojo a clique

Which is EXACTLY WHY Pomu is joining vshojo soon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71889153
>because she leaked shit that Matara said in private
Actually I don't think it's even the case anymore.
In the same segment of the stream Sayu said that "some people didn't like that she was shitting on a place in which they were comfortable".

[Anonymous No.]

>>71889180
>Calls out bullshit
>Agreed to doing all the bullshit
>Apologizes for doing said bullshit

Sayufags are a psyop

[Anonymous No.]

>>71888888
based and checked

[Anonymous No.]

>>71885818
no way she choose this nigger instead of sayu. so the bbc trully her taste huh

[Anonymous No.]

>>71889076
Half of the audition members were already friends with the members. Snuffy was the big example yet she got rejected. GEEGA who is now a member got rejected too.
Being close friend is a big help but that's not the only requirement. A lot of hate against Vshojo was just bitter applicants who didn't get the part. Some (many) became big indie streamers right now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71889243 (me)
bricky instantly clicked with heavenly and haruka

[Anonymous No.]

>>71889325
I mean that COULD be the case, or she could be coping because she betrayed the trust of a former coworker. Either is possible and it all depends on whose word you trust

[Anonymous No.]

>>71886587
https://youtu.be/dnP5bIRfwq0?feature=shared&t=264
listen for a minute or 2

[Anonymous No.]

>>71887733
This is probably the sanest and most measured take here. When Sayu was fired, it appears most of the industry assumed the accusations of her being a total monster were true, and she was clearly blacklisted. No one would talk to her or collab with her. It is very difficult for people to admit they were wrong, which is probably a contributing factor to her still being blacklisted.

Another issue is she's obviously still very bitter. People respond to extreme adversity in different ways. Kson, for example, managed not to crack and left Hololive with a smile and is still doing quite well for herself. The Triangle has also come a very long way from her disaster. However, not everyone has that inner strength, and I suspect Sayu broke in a way Kson didn't.

Another thing is that Doki has some advantages that Sayu did not including consistent 10k+ numbers six weeks after re-debut, tons of sponsorships pouring in, and a fairly deep friend network that seems to have supported her before Ninjisanji turned on her. Sayu, unfortunately, has none of those things.

Finally, while Nijisanji may be on fire and burning, the clique still has significant connections and influence in the vTuber sphere and I have little doubt that Matara is probably agitating behind the scenes to keep Sayu out of vShojo. She was doing everything she could to help Quinn and he promptly flopped. I'm hoping vShojo isn't stupid enough to pick any more of these people up, because the last thing the vTuber sphere needs is to give the bully clique another platform to harass and cancel people with.

>>71888222
>Outside of that point that's just plain delusional, what good does Sayu bring to the company?

Numbers, she has a nice midsize audience. She's not a monster like Doki but is doing fairly well for herself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71889153
Sayu had a lot of time between her termination and Nina's graduation. Her not getting /in/ vshojo has nothing to do with Mata, even if she may think otherwise.

>>71889325
That's honestly bullshit when Matara and Kuro were shitting on Kurosanji right from their debut. Why would they care if Sayu does the same?

[Anonymous No.]

>>71889383
Vnepohireshojo

[Anonymous No.]

>>71889310
Pretty sure she's had enough of Mata already, funnily enough.
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2081428746?t=3h36m31s

[Anonymous No.]

How is calling vshojo a clique in any way controversial? It always has been. They only pick up already-successful free agents that one of the existing members knows.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71887607
she did own up to her mistakes though, even to the most inane ones. niji being selective with their rules and the favoritism paints a glaring contrast though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71889092
>Years go by
It's only just been a year.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71885047
>people just now learning it's a clique
It's been obvious since the second it started and it was shoved in everyones face the second Silver, Vei and Nyanners quit.

[Anonymous No.]

I have arrived, the prophet is here. MY RRAT ISREAL! ISREAL!

[Anonymous No.]

>>71888985
I'm sure there are some good attributes to Sayu. But it is extremely narcissistic to think only being close to them means something, while this was the case for people like Haruka and GEEGA, if this was the case then Shylily, Snuffy, Arielle, VChiban members, South Side members, Froggy, OniGiri, and probably a fuckton of the people that have collabed more with them, and have/had a shitton interactions with almost every member, would have already been in. Fuck, OniGiri is a bigger lost than whatever Sayu will be to them as a company.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71889110
/vt/ is the best board on 4chan. Trust me, things are not that bad here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71889430
Shitting is a strong word, "tee-hee managers were unhelpful".
Compare it to leaking the gag contract in the middle of nuclear yab for example.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71886142
>That and Geega slowly retreating to her old indie friends.
?

She's spent the last three months primarily streaming GTAV RP

[Anonymous No.]

>>71889521
Isn't every name in your list Mythic now

[Anonymous No.]

>>71889383
>A lot of hate against Vshojo was just bitter applicants
And they deserve if their requirements for being acceptance are being a nepohire.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71889451
I mean, between Vei and Nazuna, their success with people that AREN'T close to most of the members has been spotty. Can't say I blame them for sticking to people they know

[Anonymous No.]

>>71889470
It's almost like all the other members didn't break multiple rules within the first month, became an instant risk to their reputation and didn't cause internal problems with managers

[Anonymous No.]

>>71889592
Only Lily
Snuffy, Arielle, Froggy are free agents
VChiban is with MSM
SouthSide (at least the ones that matter) formed 3AM
OniGiri is with GeexPlus and some other company.

btw, being with another company doesn't matter. GEEGA retained MSM and Zen and Ironmouse are with UTA

[Anonymous No.]

>>71888888
correct
nice numbers

[Anonymous No.]

>>71888014
>/in/
>>71889022
>/in/
>>71889153
>/in/
>>71889430
>/in/

[Anonymous No.]

>>71889630
Rationally as a viewer you shouldn't have a problem with nepohiring since it usually leads to better content.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71889092
Sayu was right, if people took her side that time and saw that truth about nijisanji, then you wouldn't have so many graduations or Selen attempting. Maybe Nijisanji would've woken up and done something about it, now it's too late and they are trying to patch a wound that is inches deep with a band-aid.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71885047
>vshojo is a cliques
Nyanners and vei also silver literally quit because im control the entire cliques and they are not happy with it because it will make any decisions more biased towards im. i mean take a look at kuro. he despised niji but he couldn'tdo that on his kuro account instead he posted it on his alt. freedom huh

[Anonymous No.]

>>71889592
Mythic is just for merch and sponsorships
they aren't an org like vshojo

[Anonymous No.]

>>71889435
lol Mata gives her the headaches

[Anonymous No.]

>>71886337
QRD on the artist thing?

[Anonymous No.]

>>71889436
All agencies and corpos nepohire. The clique in Niji. Korone, Okayu and Sana in Holo. 90% of Phase connect. It's not a secret.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71889429
>Kson, for example, managed not to crack and left Hololive with a smile and is still doing quite well for herself.
Not exactly the same situation tho. Kson graduated (albeit forced). Zaion was publicly executed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71888014
>There's no cliques in Vshojo

[Anonymous No.]

>>71889429
>>Outside of that point that's just plain delusional, what good does Sayu bring to the company?
>Numbers, she has a nice midsize audience. She's not a monster like Doki but is doing fairly well for herself.
Then why isn't Shylily on it. Or Doki for that matter.
Again I ask you, what good brings Sayu to the company

[Anonymous No.]

>>71889741
>90% of Phase connect
I'd say it's about 60

[Anonymous No.]

>>71885443
Everyone knows this, but dramaniggers are too chickenshit to go after them because
>muh mousey

[Anonymous No.]

>>71889571
It properly describes how she talks about "hollywood".
Which obviously you wouldn't know since you don't watch her.

>>71889726
Holy ESL. But no, Nyanners is still friends with Ironmouse and she doesn't have any power over other talents.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71889738
Apparently she talked shit about her artist at some point, but later apologized. Antis love to quote it though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71889713
Sana...

[Anonymous No.]

>>71889741
>Korone, Okayu
to be fair Korone is a hyper active person that yagoo really liked and Okayu invited them both in
and Koro san is a fun streamer

[Anonymous No.]

>>71889716
Nah sayu was never right she joined as a grifter to ride the high of luxiem.
Now is mad she can't leech off doki.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71889852
>It properly describes how she talks about "hollywood".
>Which obviously you wouldn't know since you don't watch her.
???
who the fuck is she even

[Anonymous No.]

>>71889263
I guess thats why theyre all collabing with the homos right? Because everyone likes it so much and unichads were wrong and not the OGs

[Anonymous No.]

>>71885443
Vshojo sisters are real

[Anonymous No.]

>>71885848
he just kept his niji numbers
to be fair he streams simultaneously on youtube so you can basically double that number but still… lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>71889874
Artists are retards people just don't mention it out of respect and fear

[Anonymous No.]

>>71889741
you don't know anything about holo gamers you vshojofag. they never put recruitment announcement for hologamer

[Anonymous No.]

>>71889874
>shit talk people apologize
>repeat

[Anonymous No.]

>>71889880
Well that shows you that being just close to one and not having the best relationship can lead into a bad nepohire, see also Nazuna for example. Although this can't be the case for most of them. Kuro exists in the company because both GEEGA, Mouse and obviously Matara like the guy, the others didn't know him well at that point. But they gave him a chance, turns out the guy (besides being a bit menhera) can be fun to be around and both Kson, Hime and Henya have been basically found some fun with the guy, often pulling pranks on him.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71889803
>what good brings Sayu to the company

[Anonymous No.]

>>71890014
Okayu is that good at talking

[Anonymous No.]

>>71889738
>>71889874
It wasn't that long after she came back as Sayu, still in a really dark place. She was effectively having a breakdown on stream and someone in chat baited her with the idea that Yumiiho was putting off completing her model because other people were paying more. Sayu just kind of agreed in a resigned way that maybe that was true. That was all. Sayu apologised and Yumiiho is still close with her, they interact frequently.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71889716
People graduated because of issues with management and a heavy workload. Sayu's issues with management were all her fault. Selen attempted because of "bullying" that Sayu never mentioned. Instead she mentions how mad she is that Doppio got sponsored by a gacha game she likes and she didn't. No one believed her because she's full of shit but Doki has made people throw their brains out

[Anonymous No.]

>Cope and Seethe Vsjsisters for the rrats have won

[Anonymous No.]

>>71888630
The fact that there are unironic vshojo shills here that don't get chased of the board on site tells we're already too far gone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71887947
You only JUST realized that sayu is responsible for ruining own career?

[Anonymous No.]

>>71885443
I mean VShojo being a clique isn't even a rrar or some kind of secret. It quite literally is openly a clique. And of course she can't join after the Nina leak.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71889713
Nepohires will lead to arbitrary selection of people with little amount of talent in detriment of people with more skills because the latter don't have the "right" connections.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71890120
You must be really proud of your retarded rrat that you spam everywhere

[Anonymous No.]

>SAYU BACKSTABBED MATARA AND LEAKED DMS
She said that Nina agreed with her about Niji making you feel worthless. Matara even said the same thing not long after.
>SAYU SHIT TALKED HER MAMA
That's not even what happened, and they immediately patched things up and to this day are still great friends.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71889990
dishonest argument

[Anonymous No.]

>>71890031
I never found Kuro/Mysta to be all that interesting. Better than Ike or Hex but not much.

[Anonymous No.]

I really hope vshojo goes through the full nijification

[Anonymous No.]

>>71890187
>you spam everywhere
NTA, I didn't even know that my rrat was spreading around the board lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>71890048
I'm asking outside of relationships, because from a company stand point.
Last year they had 4 new talents, each bring something positive to them. Both Kuro and Matara had insane selling power, merch has been really positive for them, even beating people like Zentreya and Froot in sales. They do lack in sponsors tho. GEEGA and Matara have been really professional to help them out between management and talents (both pushed calendars to the talents and the usage of the discord for collab discussions, Matara pushed more of her merch to be more accessible and GEEGA has done some good PR). And I don't have to mention why Henya was a good hire for them

Again, what good brings Sayu to the company to be hired if it's not "clique" based. Nothing, she's just another stream and probably a pain in the ass to deal with. It's plain delusional and narcissistic from her that the only problem is just "VShojo being a clique = bad"

[Anonymous No.]

>>71890173
I've seen it work out more often than Sanas.
>>71890187
They're literally R*dditors and probably underage.

[Anonymous No.]

penis

[Anonymous No.]

>>71890287
>NTA
sure thing, that's why you reply instantly

[Anonymous No.]

>>71888755
if she doesn't care then why does she sperg out about them so often?

[Anonymous No.]

>>71887733
>>71889429
This is basically what I said in the Vshojo thread. She's really negative and bitter. I understand why, and I would probably be a bigger asshole if I was put in her situation, but that's not really what Vshojo is going for. From Kson on (aside from Haruka and Geega), every Vshojo member went through some bad shit, but they all put it behind themselves immediately and are positive about the future. Except for Nazuna and that didn't work out at all. They don't want a repeat of that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71890333
Well, I am watching the bread dumbass.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71890304
you sure seem to know a lot about the inner workings of vshojo

[Anonymous No.]

>>71890413
Because I watch streams, dumbass

[Anonymous No.]

>>71890211
And yet Matara is not obligated to forgive her and be friends with her again. It is upto her to decide that. And it's not like she shit talked sayu or something. And yet sayufags call her a bitch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71890344
>so often
you don't watch streams

[Anonymous No.]

>>71890431
Who says she has to forgive her? Friendships get broken for the dumbest of shit all the time. It's stupid, but that's just human nature. It was a fucking stupid thing to get mad at, but if Matara doesn't want to forgive Sayu, that's just life.
>And yet sayufags call her a bitch.
I call her a bitch for sucking Kyo's dick.

[Anonymous No.]

I think she has the right to be bummed out about being denied an opportunity even if it's really dumb

[Anonymous No.]

>>71890429
Okay, Mouse.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71885443
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSZ0Ui7rZx4&t=23199

[Anonymous No.]

>>71890489
I don't need to when you fags spam the board with her most recent whinefest twice a month, if anything she must reference them more often than I see which is already a fuckton

[Anonymous No.]

>>71890431
>not obligated to forgive even though the person did no harm and apologized on multiple occasions
that's kinda falls under the word "bitch"
t. not sayufag

[Anonymous No.]

Sayufags are dumb niggers, but they are not as brown as holonigs are.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71889905
Nina literally made an off colab stream with every luxiem member and the leech was Sayu?
Sisters arent sending their best.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71890377
exactly what I was thinking.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71890593
>did no harm
You are delusional

[Anonymous No.]

>>71890120
>Vsjsisters
That's a thing now?

[Anonymous No.]

>>71889418
>"Nina told me she thought she'd be nothing outside of there and I told her that's not true, that's why I was so happy to see her leave"
Is this the "shit-talk"?

[Anonymous No.]

>>71890688
Enlighten me then, what harm.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71890637
acting as if nina wasn't the first person to invite the boys to collabs, even before china found them fuck off retard.
Nina very much openly talked about wanting the boys to feel welcomed into nijien when it was only girls.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71885047
Vshojo, the den of snakes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71889741
>Vshojo does 100% nepohires
>but hololive has a few too, it's literally the same
kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>71890581
>Sayu spam this
>/ss/ complaining about catalog spamming her whine
DYRBI

[Anonymous No.]

>>71890705
That's the part where she
>backstabbed
>leaked DMs
>betrayed Nina's trust
and stupid thing like that

[Anonymous No.]

>>71890792
holo and niji were built on nepohires and only stopped in like late 2019 after they grew a good bit

[Anonymous No.]

>people ignored the red flags when Nina kotowed to the clique and became chummy with them
>people ignored the red flags when Matara started shilling Quinn hard

[Anonymous No.]

>>71890715
Mostly harm to herself. Talking shit about Nina's friends and sending her dramafag redditor fanbase to harass anyone who doesn't want to put up with her bipolar shit. Also she shot herself in the foot time and time again and calling Nina's friends backstabbers and expecting no one to care the same way she doesn't care about anyone, she is one of the most two-faced bitches in the vtubing scene and I'm including all of vshojo when I say that

[Anonymous No.]

Fuck Nina/Mata she is a part of the clique.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71890525
Well people were calling a bitch before the whole kyo thing. Her being friends Kyo is a little iffy but can simply be explained by the fact most of the reasons the guy is hated for are not based on proofs. For most sayufags it comes down to " sayu hates him, so we hate him too". Why would matara care about that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>71890715
She broke her trust as she started spilling what was said in private to find more reasons to get people to buy her victim narrative. She consistently shits on Mata's friends as well. Sayu also has a record of doing dumb shit and instantly apologizing then continuing to do the same dumb shit. I sure do wonder why the apology is not accepted

[Anonymous No.]

hiring big/established names and/or talent-vetted people (i.e., nepohires) have always been the key for the vshojo model to work. you can't just give out models that they can keep on the get-go for free or manage them with little to no reins wrt content or branding if the talents themselves are not that big already or at least have a tie-in to a previous talent who's already big. the idea of their auditions being golden tickets for struggling but talented artists have always been bullshit, and that's not necessarily "wrong" but a necessary feature for their agency model to work. this is true notwithstanding sayu's gripes and drama with other people. call her shit, sourgraping, or whatever, but she's right about vshojo in essence.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71890828
hard to make clips of someone you don't watch, only her fans could possibly be doing that

[Anonymous No.]

>>71890950
Sorry that your 2 view oshi got rejected.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71890959
Nah, it started pretty much when she sucked Kyo's dick after he announced his graduation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71890840
>debatable
>Lie
>only valid one
Heh you're bad at this

[Anonymous No.]

>>71889803
Why isn't Doki in it? Right now there's no reason to join. She's getting 10k+ CCV on nearly every stream six weeks after she re-debuted and she's got tons of sponsorships and money coming in. vShojo simply could not do anything for her. I don't know that even Hololive, with all its resources, could really do anything for her at this point. Maybe if she were to recline down to sub-5K CCV levels.

So yeah, there's no reason for Doki to be banging on the doors to get into vShojo. Sayu is right at the "sweet spot" where she'd be, at least on the surface, a good fit for them. So why exclude her? Well, her being informally blacklisted is one possibility that has to be considered, especially if she is correct that Matara is agitating to keep her out.

[Anonymous No.]

do henyafags ready for luca and uki collab when they join vshojo?

[Anonymous No.]

>>71891005
>Sorry that your 2 view oshi got rejected.
Who? I just hate the clique.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71891021
>lie
Go on, show me the leaked DMs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71890976
>She broke her trust as she started spilling what was said in private
Yes, that's what she was apologizing for
>She consistently shits on Mata's friends as well
Haven't heard it once, but I'm not sayufag. But THIS is the crux of the issue, not some confidentiality bullshit. Matara can't stand Sayu taking a dump on niji while her "friends" are still in there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71890431
It is one thing if Matara doesn't want to be friends. No one is obligated to be friends. It's another thing if Matara is somehow pushing/agitating for vShojo not to hire or even talk to Sayu.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71891000
>it proven anti watcher exist
>I-It's her fans
Damn how could it happens

[Anonymous No.]

>>71890088
>Sayu's issues with management were all her fault.
>People graduated because of issues with management
You can't possibly say those things in the same post anon, spread them.
We already know how bad niji's management is, why do you have to cope so much?
Her issues stems from the same source as everyone else, or are you gonna say that Selen should've been a good girl and waited for management to give the OK for the cover?

[Anonymous No.]

>>71886762
If a retarded zoomer wigger subhuman promoted my doxxes and harassment I'd be receiving I'd also hate his guts

[Anonymous No.]

>>71890976
yeah but tbf matas friends are Millie, Enna, Elira. Just to name a few. They are so radiating, Onigiri spend most of Mtas JP trip trailing along and didn't even dare to hint that they meet up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71891051
>do henyafags ready

[Anonymous No.]

>>71891022
They could do plenty for her, just like they do for a similar sized vtuber, Ironmouse.

>>71891051
Mentally ill unicorn, Henya never pandered to your kind. But you are even more delusional if you think Uki or Luca will be able to join vshojo. You catalog retards were already wrong about Quinn and you just double down.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71891191
And how do you know that? What agitations did she do exactly? Because of one line sayu said that doesn't even imply what you claim it did?

[Anonymous No.]

>>71891073
>Claims leaks dm
>Got called out
>Show proof!!
Damn you're retarded

[Anonymous No.]

>>71891238
He didn't do that, read the thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>71891170
>Haven't heard it once, but I'm not sayufag. But THIS is the crux of the issue, not some confidentiality bullshit. Matara can't stand Sayu taking a dump on niji while her "friends" are still in there.

Yes, this is basically what I think too. Ultimately even though the clique has embarrassed themselves badly in public and are now widely hated by the fans, they still clearly have a lot of friends, supporters/simps, and connections in the industry, and will continue to exert influence until Niji EN folds and they are out of the company. The continuing blacklist of Sayu past any point of reason is one example of their continuing influence.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71891234
except she self-reported in her google doc for going against what her manager told her to do, same shit doki did. whether management is good or bad they are both proven to have ignored/rebelled against them, what the fuck did they think would happen. doki only slid by for so long by having built decent rapport over time

[Anonymous No.]

>>71891288
>wrong about quinn
you don't watch henya, sister

[Anonymous No.]

>>71890978
Yet everybody wants the Vshojo model to win. They don't understand what makes it work. They think "talent is king/queen" is always best without understanding the things agencies have to sacrifice and the implicit/explicit systems they set in place to make it work.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71891341
What? Oh, wait, you think I'm against Sayu? No, I'm calling out the rrats about her leaking the nonexistent DMs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71891288
>wrong about Quinn
HAHAHAHAHA that's funny.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71891170
>Yes, that's what she was apologizing for
And the apology was not accepted. Using private conversations regarding someone's feelings to further your own victim narrative is shitty especially when you're trying to play savior to the public. Mata has no problems with people shitting on Niji's management because she does it too, it's her doing shit like calling people backstabbers for not defending her. Her being a bitch to her friends is just a cherry on top

[Anonymous No.]

>>71891343
>Cherry picking on this very thread
Nijification is real

[Anonymous No.]

>>71891071
you don't even know what the clique is you change what members are in it every day

[Anonymous No.]

>>71891373
Wrong, retard. Henya is my second most watched vtuber.

>>71891405
You said he's 100% going to join Vshojo? What happened? Oh right. He's a fucking indie, like I told you. Cope more.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71891445
Feel free to own me by posting proof of your claims

[Anonymous No.]

>>71891471
What do you know about what I know?

[Anonymous No.]

>vshojofags are just another form of sisters
Heh

[Anonymous No.]

>>71891396
Nvm I'm the retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>71891371
Management works with people who want to create content, they have to be willing to listen and come to some common ground, so that the talent can create said content. From what Sayu said, she only got rejections and double standard rules that they make on the spot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71891578
The locusts are starting to migrate.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71891583
Anon, we are both retarded

[Anonymous No.]

>>71891578
so true sister

[Anonymous No.]

>>71891486
>You said he's 100% going to join Vshojo?
What the fuck are (You) talking about retard.
>Oh right. He's a fucking indie, like I told you.
What the fuck are you on about? Anyways the rrats always said he was joining or was going to orbit Vshojo retard.

[Anonymous No.]

Where did the quinnfags come from?

[Anonymous No.]

>>71891660
>100% going to join Vshojo
half a year non-compete

[Anonymous No.]

>>71891684
Nijisister refuges.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71891660
you are lying. the rrat said he was going to join. i specifically remember calling you retarded because aethel confirmed he's gonna be an indie and you got all mad and called aethel a liar for some reason. then you changed the rrat after that turned out to be wrong.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71891608
She was rejected when she asked if she could play on her genshin account that she used on her PL that was sponsored. If you can't see why a company would obviously reject this, you're a clown. There also is no double standards, if you fuck up enough and are causing clear damage to the company, they'll either fire or suspend you

[Anonymous No.]

>"I'm 8ch@n"
>I like that
>*laughs*

https://www.youtube.com/live/QSZ0Ui7rZx4?si=8zLh9aiv28Wl2cCF&t=23782
What did she mean by that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>71891660
Haha yeah sure, you are a certified moron like every vshojo anti.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71888888
Finally something smart said on this thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71885443
>>says she can never get into Vshojo because of certain members
kek. Everyone knows it is Nina

[Anonymous No.]

>>71891734
I don't think I'm the anon you are talking about retard. I have no clue as to what you are referring to.

[Anonymous No.]

holofags in this thread seriously need to shut up. if you hate niji and think niji bad or niji talent bad, then you should just let the vshojo nijification to happen. sooner or later, vshojo will undergo another implosion and self-correct. you don't need to do anything. if you just want to argue, then why not argue for the nijification to happen. don't stop your enemies when they're making a mistake, and make them make those mistakes faster if possible.

[Anonymous No.]

Wait do Vshojofags think only one person shits on them. LMAO

[Anonymous No.]

>>71891830
i am referring to the epic rrat which changed multiple times already because dramafags don't know anything about vtubing outside hololive

[Anonymous No.]

>>71891736
>causing clear damage to the company
>DEEZ NUTS

[Anonymous No.]

>>71890959
People were calling her a bitch partially because of Sayu, but mostly because she was being used to prove there was a clique because she left Niji and had problems in the company early on. That put the spotlight on her and her being friendly with Kyo/Elira/Enna still.

>>71891371
No one is saying they shouldn't have been fired going by Nijisanji's rules specifically. The problem is being fired in Nijisanji comes with legal threats, no protection from harrasment, misrepresentation, silencing NDAs, and attempted blacklisting. Obviously the mutual expectations of professionalism go out of the window the second Niji starts pulling half the shit Sayu has accused them of. And hell what we've actually witnessed with the termination notices.
There is no way the random shit put in that termination notice was the real reason she was fired. Management didn't like her (obviously) and Nijiisisters lost their shit at a clip of her. That's the sole reason. NDF could easily say she was just than shit of an employee but anyone who actually likes her could just as easily say >>71891608

[Anonymous No.]

>>71891816
>/vt/ is a hivemind that agrees about anything
Nta - I don't know where you're from, be it r*ddit or twitter, but you need to go back.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71891844
>niji bad
>vsj bad
>sayu bad
Every single one of these things is true

[Anonymous No.]

>>71891885
Mult people make differing rrats anon. All rrats don't originate from one person. Come on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71891908
It was actually Dee's nuts which is an actual company that is actively lawsuit happy. The fact she's so unprofessional that she doesn't see the harm in claiming to be sponsored by a funny company that sends out lawsuits like candy while she's working for a company is insane.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71891998
the one i am referring to originated by one guy who is literally in this thread shilling it

[Anonymous No.]

>>71891303
I'm arguing a pure theoretical, I have no idea whether any of the accusations are true or not. I'm saying it's perfectly fine for Matara to not want to be friends with Sayu and not talk to her etc. I am saying that if she is doing something more, like trying to keep Sayu from joining vShojo or pushing other members not to talk or collab with her, that's a different story.

[Anonymous No.]

>le /vt/ is a hivemind
lol
lmao
kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>71891975
what a weak deflection, but what can you expect from a braindead vshojo anti

[Anonymous No.]

>>71892016
Come on anon, stop larping, you don't actually believe that, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>71892057
I don't have an issue with Vshojo, I just have an issue with faggot tourists like you who assume retarded things about this board.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71892080
https://www.wfla.com/news/florida/youtuber-mrbeast-loses-deez-nuts-lawsuit-against-florida-company/amp/

If they got Mr.Beast, they can get Nijisanji

[Anonymous No.]

oh wow yet another drop from sayu, did her viewers (drama trannies) leave again?

[Anonymous No.]

>>71892138
Anon, Mr.Beast was literally selling the product.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71892138
no... my rrats...

[Anonymous No.]

>>71892138
Didn't Vox do too a Deez Nuts joke? Did he get suspended?

[Anonymous No.]

>>71892161
This might genuinely be some form of mental disability.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71892138
>the biggest youtube is selling candy using their brand name
vs
>a nobody 1 month old vtuber from a japanese company had the name (not even the logo) on the screen for 2 hours
It's so over, bros.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71892241
I hope you realize that there's a big difference between a random vtuber doing a Deez Nuts joke and one of the biggest youtubers in the whole planet literally selling something under the brand Deez Nuts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71892161
He was selling a product under a different name that was only similar and the company clearly only did it for a paycheck. They could have sued Nijisanji and drained them of money

[Anonymous No.]

>>71892308
No, this is literally self-explanatory. I'm referring to the person you replied to.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71892320
How many more people have sued over the joke?

[Anonymous No.]

>>71891522
Very blind sister

>>71887612
>>71887266
>>71887082

[Anonymous No.]

Nijisanji and VShojo basically have the same problems, just in a different situation. Highschool-like drama is always immature though, and considering how I have hardly ever seen anyone in either of these companies handle it in an adult manner already shows enough I think. Hololive learned how to handle shit like that long ago, so seeing dramas like the NijiEN one or the Silvervale one makes it seem like the managers in both of these companies are fucking useless.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71892137
I literally posted an example of what vshojo antis posted here all over the board and were obviously wrong about, retard. If that didn't apply to you then why even bother replying.

[Anonymous No.]

the rrats won

[Anonymous No.]

>>71892387
/vt/ retards aren't proof. Post evidence.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71892352
The only people that hat has to sue are the company with the name "Dee's nuts". It shows they are willing to sue over a company having a similar name selling a different product for a paycheck. If they decided to sue over someone clearly using their company name as a sponsor, they could

[Anonymous No.]

>>71892352
>Sued maybe
>Case holding up not going to happen

[Anonymous No.]

>>71888014
>Audition
>Vshojo
this shit is funny back then because they clearly ignore the audition just to get the big fish which is Kson & Rushia

[Anonymous No.]

>>71889092
>Genshin shill
Well there's a charge you can lay against more than half the industry.
>Blatantly unprofessional as she makes a coworker her enemy because of a slighted ego
...you mean the coworker that helped doxx her?
>Is mad she was fired so she writes a document saying she was unjustly fired
Which she was, and people clearly needed to be warned about that place.
>Admits to doing everything she was fired for
She admitted that everything they slandered her for was either blown way out of proportion or an outright lie, as others confirmed later. At best she said it was best that they parted ways.
>Pity baits in document
Niji forced the context of her personal life into play.
>Is "backstabbed" by her friends in Niji because they didn't defend her and talk about her dishonesty
I remind you, "The Rape Joke" response: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vi-cPuSMJXs
Not to mention Finana claiming she was being "gaslighted", while clearly not knowing what the word means, and Kotoka saying she "can't even wish her well", though she took it back later.
>Backstabs Nina and uses a private conversation to further her agenda
You mean tells people her friend is being made to feel worthless and depressed due to her time in NijjiEN, while trying to warn people about NijiEN. With enemies like that, who needs friends?
>Is surprised Nina has a problem with it
I still am, and can't really bring myself to believe that's actually her problem.
>Years go by and she still isn't over Niji
A year, barely. That place drives people to suicide and it put her life in jeapordy, I could see where it might take some time to get over, nevermind the fact that she gets harassed about it to this day, while watching all the new drama coming out of that hellhole.
>Proceeds to leak a "silencing contract" to a grifter cementing the fact she's less professional than a teenage part timer
>Said contract basically just says to not defame them and they'll say she quit
They never agreed to retract their 12 bullet points. They were going to defame her whether or not she signed, the only thing the contract did was make it so she could never tell her side of the story (were it enforceable). Nevermind the fact that she put it up because the black company just drove someone to suicide.
>Gets collab with big Vshoujo member
...and?
>Immediately backstabs by shit talking the company because her "enemy" got in and she didn't
What enemy? Kyo didn't get in. Who did she backstab? Zen or Kson who she said were some of her favorite people while singing their accolades?

[Anonymous No.]

>>71892461
>It shows they are willing to sue over a company having a similar name selling a different product for a paycheck
This is correct and they have the right on doing that.
>If they decided to sue over someone clearly using their company name as a sponsor, they could
This is just retarded. And, again, if Nijisanji was scared of something like this, they would have suspended Vox too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71892511
They picked Haruka, catalogbro.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71892454
>Tell to read thead
>Got called out
>Show thread
>t-that not count!
Ok sis

[Anonymous No.]

>>71892422
You literally stated that all rrats are the same and they all come from the same vshojo antis. This is fucking retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71892528
Zaion didn't get suspended for doing that, they just told her to stop. You have to prove they didn't tell Vox to stop making jokes about being sponsored by meme companies

[Anonymous No.]

>>71892637
It's literally on the list of things she was terminated for.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71892579
You forgot to post proof again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71892637
Didn't say that Zaion was suspended over it, but they used it on the bullet points, she it's understood that it was something big enough to get fired.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71892637
>just told to stop
>Show up on bullet points
Dyrbi

[Anonymous No.]

>>71892537
retard
look at the date

[Anonymous No.]

>>71892727
Retarded sister can't read

[Anonymous No.]

>>71892707
the termination was justified by listing a bunch of different things. the cumulative effect of all of them is what they had a problem with.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71892727
We got a live one boyo

[Anonymous No.]

>>71892857
Hey, that's cool. Did you know that Vox and other livers literally did most of that stuff too?

[Anonymous No.]

>>71892838
I read them and there is no proof in any of those posts. I want proof, not "trust me bro". I don't trust any of the broken english weirdos on this website. Post evidence.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71892895
why would i know what happens on corposlop streams

[Anonymous No.]

>>71892857
kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>71892727
>Pagpag is real
go to sleep paki-chan

[Anonymous No.]

>>71892958
streamlabs went down before those posts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71892904
>post dox evidence
why you're even here

[Anonymous No.]

>>71893074
It's a retarded sister anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>71892981
Keep your creepy fetish to yourself.
>>71893074
I want to see evidence that Kyo "boosted" it. Redact all personal information. Also it's "why are you", not "why you are" paki chan.

[Anonymous No.]

Good thread, everyone. What did we learn?

[Anonymous No.]

>>71892958
FUCK YOU KYO!

[Anonymous No.]

>>71892527
>you mean the coworker that helped doxx her
Proof? Cause apparently you schizos think some faggot online using Kyo's name is actually him
>Which she was, and people clearly needed to be warned about that place.
"Warned". Try hiding the fact you're a retard better. She was writing the document to shift blame onto Niji, not a single time did warning people about Nijisanji being evil come up in the document
>She admitted that everything they slandered her for was either blown way out of proportion or an outright lie
Okay, now look at every time she admits to doing it and apologizes for it without crying
>Niji forced the context
>"I HAD TO TALK ABOUT MY DYING CAT , THEY FORCED ME TO"
People are allowed to not defend her or criticize her for making a shitty rape joke. That isn't backstabbing, neither is Finana saying Zaion misled her or Kotoka saying she can't wish her well. Spilling what a friend tells you in private so you can play savior in your victim narrative about "muh evil corpo" is a betrayal especially when she clearly didn't want people to know what they were talking about as it was personal. You must be a really shit friend if you think that's acceptable and that the problem is with the friend for being angry
>They never agreed to retract their 12 bullet points
I don't know what you think they meant by "it'll look better" because it clearly means they wouldn't list why she was being fired since it'd be her agreeing to quit. You assuming they'd "defame her" anyways is retarded dramafaggotry. She only leaked the contract because she realized she could get pity bait money with help from grifters
>Kyo didn't get in
Apparently he was included in the clique and she isn't. Immediately shitting on Vshoujo after a collab with Zen then praising Zen is essentially like someone shitting on your friends but saying "you're an exception though". That's as blatant as backstabbing gets since she just collabed with her

[Anonymous No.]

>>71893261
Nijification is real

[Anonymous No.]

>>71893147
>Also it's "why are you", not "why you are"
who hurt you lol
>I want to see evidence
Demands aside, even redacted out it would be one search away.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71893261
Uhhhh

SIEG ZAION

[Anonymous No.]

>>71893261
You can apparently just slander chuubas here and holofags will believe it and then call you a pagpag if you question their claim's validity.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71893261
The rrats are winning

[Anonymous No.]

>>71893353
nah that would be defamation and grounds for lawsuit

[Anonymous No.]

>>71893324
You believe it. Why? Did you see it? Why can't you show it to me too so I believe it? Are you covering up for the guy?

[Anonymous No.]

>>71893147
ESL on ESL fight

Quinnfag is more retarded news at 7

[Anonymous No.]

>>71893305
>That isn't backstabbing, neither is Finana saying Zaion misled her or Kotoka saying she can't wish her well
Throwing a friend under the bus when she was getting harassed and doxxed is clearly backstabbing tho.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71887891
I have a bridge to sell you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71893353
A Butt hurt sister lol
Show beb

[Anonymous No.]

>>71893414
Hush, foreigner. I'm American, that's why I'm arguing he's innocent until proven guilty.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71892895
Ok. Prove they did all of them in under two months while also cultivating a hate mob online against the company

[Anonymous No.]

>>71892955
>defends Nijisanji throughout this thread
>"Haha, fuck all corpos, am I right guys?"
Pathetic attempt at masking who you are, lol.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71893261
>Nijisanji is shit
>VShojo is pretty much the same (except for Henya)
Nothing new honestly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71893528
shitting on rratfags isn't defending nijisanji, dumb ape.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71893478
>American
>Innocent until proven guilty
I have a bridge to sell you

[Anonymous No.]

>>71892958
>Is equally as likely to be a random schizophrenic online
>Could even be Zaion trying to frame Kyo considering she's the only person that could have known about her being terminated beforehand and she's proven to be obsessed with him

The first is more realistic but the second is more funny

[Anonymous No.]

>>71893261
>What did we learn?
The rrats one and will continue to win.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71893570
Sure sister, sure.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71893652
not beating the allegations.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71893481
>while also cultivating a hate mob online against the company
LMAO, you know that didn't happen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71893305
>Proof? Cause apparently you schizos think some faggot online using Kyo's name is actually him
Some faggot liking tweets with his PL account? I mean, I guess, if you believe someone took over his twitter than gave it back to him.
>not a single time did warning people about Nijisanji being evil come up in the document
She's repeatedly stated she wrote it up to prevent it from ever happening to someone else. (And it apparently wasn't enough.)
>Okay, now look at every time she admits to doing it and apologizes for it without crying
Didn't say she wasn't brow beaten, there's only one accusation of the twelve she doesn't at least mitigate, and more blown straight out of the water than not, some done so again by others that came after her.
>I don't know what you think they meant by "it'll look better" because it clearly means they wouldn't list why she was being fired since it'd be her agreeing to quit.
They said they wouldn't retract the "facts" that they had already shared with her, ie. the twelve bullet points. The only thing they promised was is "It'd be better for your future." *click* ...then gave her an hour to sign.
I really hope you're one of the paid ones to defend even that.
>Zen is essentially like someone shitting on your friends but saying "you're an exception though".
More that you're a good person despite a few of the other people in the company you work for.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71893689
Are you fags just memoryholing people calling for Zaion to be fired for being a "rape apologist" and the shitting on Niji for not immediately canning her?

[Anonymous No.]

>>71893768
>while also cultivating a hate mob online against the company
>AGAINST the company
The sister is trying to say that Zaion was encouraging her fanbase to harass the company and the other organs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71893581
You forgot to post the evidence again. Feel free to post it next thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71893685
Allegations of what? That you're a Nijifag desperately defending the company? You're correct, you're doing a terrible job of it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71893859
allegations that you're a braindead ape that only sees in console war vision.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71893261
Voxfags synced up their periods and rrats are dunking on them

[Anonymous No.]

>>71893923
It's not going to work sister.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71893949
what isn't, what do you think i'm doing? i could go for a laugh.