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Okay, let's try this. Suisei is pretty clearly regarded as being the best (voice+technique+popularity+accomplishments) singer in Hololive. However, after her, the 2nd place is pretty well contested between a lot of Holos who release banger after banger (or at least have a lot of great karaoke covers). So, who do you think ranks as amongst Hololive's best singers?

>> No.74288894

>>74288872
Rissa

>> No.74288937

Gura > Mumei > IRyS

>> No.74289006

>>74288937
Sorry you don't like ESL. There's a reason very very few Holo's would try singing Risu's songs.

>> No.74289074

>>74288872
Mori

>> No.74289093

>>74288872
>Okay, let's try this
No, kill yourself

>> No.74289220

Tossup between Mori, Marine, IRyS and Towa.

Idk why you even included the others. The two ID girls are somewhat understandable. But Gura and Mumei? Come the fuck on brother

>> No.74289222

>>74288872
Risu. I fucking love Mumei, but Risu managed to establish herself as a SINGER even without debuting as one and with all her memelord legacy. I respect that.

>> No.74289262

Moona, Nerissa, and Risu all have better singing voices than Suisei. Gura and Towa are debatable, and Irys's originals kinda suck for me to like her singing voice as much.

Mumei, Mori, and Marines voices are good but they're not as good as the others.

Moona's original songs are also better than all of Suisei's.

>> No.74289305

>>74288872
Marry, rape, get raped by
rape, drink her piss, rape
get raped by, rape, double rape

>> No.74289384

>>74288872
the good ones here are suisei
and towa
that's how it goes

>> No.74289596

>>74289262
Mori's singing voice is still not on the level of Marine and Mumei. She only sounds decent when it's heavily produced

>> No.74289690

>>74288872
Mori’s music is pretty popular in jp side despite being en

>> No.74289868

>>74288872
Suisei doesn't even make my top 5 in Hololive. Too calculated and soulless.

>> No.74290173
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74290173

>>74288872

Assuming Suichan's on top...
Risu and IWyS are virtually tied, with one stronger in technique, and the other stronger in expression.

Gooba has a very pleasant voice. Moona should rank higher, but Goomb's voice is so easily identifiable AND pleasant.

As for the rest.
Towa's pitchy live. Senchou has no real power.
Mooms shouldn't even be in the discussion,
and Mori would rather try to rap.

JM2cents

>> No.74290244

Risu is first place, she destroys even Suisei even though she barely puts any effort into it.
A fully trained Risu would be a force beyond comprehension.

>> No.74290291

>>74288872
Probably Kanata or Mumei tbqdesu. After them risu and reine
I have a thing for vibrato.

>> No.74290408

>>74288872
>only 3 HoloJP
Fuck you
btw Watame is best singer

>> No.74290591

>>74288872
I don't think Gura and Mumei have the portfolio to be included. They just don't have enough songs for us to Judge.

Moona is very good but it's kneecapped by her English enunciation.
Risu, like Mumei, are amazing but she doesn't have enough actual music for us to objectively judge.
Mori is okay, but she only started singing reps recently (and by recently, when she joined hololive). I don't doubt she'll get there someday and she's a fast learner, but everyone else has a head start. Though she has a weird skillset like Marine.
Marine is also just okay, not an amazing singer but she has godlike vision and design direction and thus manage to create very polished products.
Based on the entire Irys catalog, she's perfect - but it's also not her catalog so I unfortunately cannot be too invested, sorry.

If we're basing it on talent and skill alone, Suisei won't actually be #1 and that'll probably go to Azki, but since we're judging them based on the combination of things (that's why Mori and Marine are even in the list, because they have other skills) she's the top.

The answer for #2 is Towa.

>> No.74290851

>>74290591
To be fair, out of all of the holomems, I'm pretty sure IRyS has the highest performing portfolio, period if we just go by youtube views. One of her old covers hit 160m.

>> No.74291374

>>74288872
Come on even if you want to include “popularity” and “accomplishments” as apart of being the best singer Mori, Mumei, and Marine are nowhere close to being good enough to be considered 2nd.

>> No.74291855

>>74291374
Mumei is better technically than most people give her credit for. I agree with Mori and Mumei being subpar.

>> No.74291884

>>74288872
I'd say risu is the best of the 9, but she treats hololive as a part time job so it's hard to really count her with the more deticated talents.
Hard pick, but I'd follow Irys behind, with Mumei and gura tied for third.
T. used to watch alot of idol performers before getting into vtubing

>> No.74292001

>>74288872
Top 10 is
AZKi > IRyS > Risu > Suisei > Kanata > Okayu > Mio > Sora/Watame/Aki/Mumei/maybe gura or moona but thats a longshot (choose 3)

>> No.74292179

>>74288872
Out of those 9 specifically based on singing ability i'll probably go
Suisei > irys > risu > mumei > towa > gura > marine > moona > mori

part of me thinks i have moona and mumei too low because i don't really like their song choices but idk

>> No.74292432

>>74288872
Marine can't sing. She shouldn't be on this list at all.

>> No.74292544

>>74288872
>Suisei is pretty clearly regarded as being the best
Cometfags are delusional

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>>74288872
Top 5 singers in Holo are easily Suisei, Azki, Towa, Kanata and Polka. I refuse to elaborate.

>> No.74293433

>>74290851
You know damn right that video only has the views because the title is in moonrunes and many people didn't know it was a cover

>> No.74293552

>>74293433
Everyone knows it's a cover. People simply prefer it over the original because IRyS is a phenomenal singer.

>> No.74294207

>>74288872
Zeta, Kaela, Noel, Fauna and Shiori

>> No.74294336

>>74288872
>no azki
ngmi

>> No.74296761

I like chill songs so I always put Okayu as one of the Top singers in holo. Its always a wonder to me why she doesn't appear on list like this too often, or maybe I just have a weird taste.
https://youtu.be/WCTiDGl8Di0

>> No.74299939

>>74289262
>Moona's original songs are also better than all of Suisei's.
So I presume you listened to every song Suisei has put out including MGO? If that’s the case then you just have shit taste or are legally deaf

>> No.74300105

>>74288872
For me it's Towa, she's the only that released music in a genre I like without sounding like a weeb or try hard

>> No.74300169

risu easily, her voice is insane but the majority of people only get to hear her in holofes which is a shame

>> No.74301120

>>74288872
I think that Kiara is mega underrated, she got some bangers imo

>> No.74302901

>>74288872
Why are chumbuds dead set on believing gura can sing? She can only sing the same 15 songs she sang in every karaoke.

>> No.74304974

>>74288872
Gooba's voice is just soothing.
I get tired of Suisei's voice after a few hours of nonstop music of hers
Meanwhile I legitimately went on for an entire day doing nothing but laying down and listening to Gura's music.
Funny, Gura is also not the best Holosinger.

>> No.74305970

>>74288872
Nerissa Ravencroft, it's not even close.

>> No.74306195

>>74288872
Risu then Irys

>> No.74306264

>>74289006
Cuz there's no traction to her songs.

>> No.74306486
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74306486

>>74288872
IRyS

>> No.74306724

>>74288894
1. Moona
2. Nerissa
3. Risu
4. Gura
5. Mumei
POWER GAP
9001. Shiori

>> No.74306816

>>74288872
AZKi mogs every whore presented in picrel. OP is also a faggot confirmed.

>> No.74306922

>>74290591
>not enough songs to judge
10 billion hours of karaoke not enough?

>> No.74307001

Susei is your most standard 6/10 japanese pop singer. You all need to get out of the vtuber bubble and get some context

>> No.74307208

>>74289262
Risu and Towa both have better singing voices than Suisei but Suisei is miles ahead of them as far as technique and overall musicality giving her a huge edge. I still think Mio has the best voice overall but she's too busy trying to be everything at once to really hone it properly.

>> No.74307456

>>74288872
I feel like people have been sleeping on Roboco a lot her part in this song sounds great and whoever makes this grouping knows what's good https://www.youtube.com/live/DzP0jXgOC4I?si=kg5EVVXX0FElD_nT&t=2143

>> No.74307554

>>74290591
>that'll probably go to Azki
What would you say is the best song or cover of hers to listen to that showcases this?

>> No.74308055
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74308055

It's always confusing how nobody even talk about Sora in threads like this...

>> No.74308595

>>74288872
nice try hoshiyomikek

>> No.74308620

>>74288872
Actual #1 vocalist is Nerissa (Suisei is obviously the best performer overall).

>> No.74308712

Worst 3x3 thread I've seen in a while.

>> No.74308764

>>74288872
IRyS is easily #2

>> No.74309068

IRyS is a weak singer, she was just born with a natural soprano voice. Don't mistake pitch for talent.

>> No.74309172

>>74307001
It's funny just how hard Ado obliterates every single vtuber. Go put Nerissa's 愛して愛して愛して next to Ado's. It's actually comical just how hard the mogging is.

>> No.74309325

>>74288872
By those metrics, Mori.
As other anons said, there are a couple other holos that are better than her in terms of pure singing skill, but I can't think of anyone else beside Suisei who was as successful musically (as it should, since they seem the only ones who are serious about pursuing a musical career)

>> No.74309330

>>74288872
I like Bae. She's not the best but I admire her drive and the joy she takes in performing.

>> No.74310880

>>74288872
>>74288937
>gura singing good
Most hilarious cumnigger cope to date
She never made it past the loli meme shit level

>> No.74311236

>>74288872
Where the fuck is AZKi?

>> No.74311520

>>74310880
Gura is better than half the people on that list.

>> No.74311978

>>74307554
Not him but I do agree with him that AZKi is the best singing holo. Idiots who think powerful singing = good singing will always fall back and say something like Suisei is the best holo. But singing is so much more than that. Resonating and connecting with your audience is important. Tone is important. Expression is important. Special shout out to those who will link two side by side Stellar Stellar as proof that Suisei is the best.

>> No.74312014

Gura sounds flat as fuck when "singing". She has a good voice as a character but it doesn't mean her singing is good.

>> No.74312103

>>74312014
Funnily enough I think Gura's CV singing is her worst singing. She peaks in white girl karaoke night, which I think is great. But I don't think Gura can make it on her voice alone.

>> No.74312279

>>74309172
And yet you've neither tried nor had the accomplishments Nerissa has, plus you're wasting time shitposting on a vtuber board instead of watching that superior content. Of which by your metric you should have hours of content to go through given the thousands of artists online. Why waste your time here?

>> No.74312584

The live singing I've heard from Nerissa is subpar at best. The studio stuff is fine, but leaves quite a lot to be desired. Also, English covers of Japanese songs is not my thing.

>> No.74312937

moona, it's not even question
https://youtu.be/SoMhjlmw2cI

>> No.74313002

>>74311978
Aight but do you have any recs?

>> No.74313318

Moona
None of EN sound that polished live

>> No.74313879

In no particular order: AZKi, Suisei, Sora, Aqua, Risu, Towa, Watame, Polka, Roboco.

>> No.74313886

>ctrl + f "chloe"
0 results

>> No.74314071

>>74294207
Based

>> No.74314153

Fauna mogs all of them

>> No.74314598

>>74311520
She quite literally can not sing at all
Her peak is cowboy song karaoke

>> No.74314632

>>74304974
This nigga listens to baby voice music.

>> No.74315380

>>74288872
>>53109498
Why is a bait thread I made a year ago being reposted...?

>> No.74316248

>>74313002
I mostly listen to her RM

>> No.74316513
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74316513

>Gura
+Amazing voice and control
+Undisputed best in her category
-Lacks range and power
>Mumei
+Cute voice
+Good range
-Terrible consistency often can't even make it through an entire song
>Irys
+Perfect control
+Good range and power
-Lacks uniqueness or sovl as some call it
>Mori
+Undisputed best rapper in hololive
+Decent singer overall
-Rapping isn't singing and her actual singing is high mid tier
>Moona and Rissu
+Loud
-Otherwise completely overrated the only reason they are often listed in top tiers is ESL browntoes with no sense of objectivity.
>Marine
+Good singer often overlooked
>Towa
+Deep voice for a girl makes her really popular with women
+Good power and decent control

>>74288894
Rissa is great on covers but she dies in live performances so I can't in good conscience put her in top tier.

>> No.74316651

>>74316513
>Undisputed best rapper in hololive
Watame beats her even with only like 2 and a half tracks

>> No.74316748

>Gura, Undisputed
Yet the whole thread is disputing
>Irys
Nasally and unpleasant to listen to
>Moona, Risu, +Loud
This is not a good thing
>Mori, Best rapper in hololive
I mean, sure?
>Marine
She uses her CV voice and she would be nothing without it
>Towa
Deep voice makes retards think that she is good.

>Doesn't mention AZKi
Glad we can agree she is the best

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>>74316748
>Doesn't mention AZKi
Legit forgot she existed. Can't say I've heard a lot of her music can you link a few of what you consider her best performances?

>> No.74317559

>EN even in the conversation
Roru

>> No.74317654

>>74311978
>Idiots who think powerful singing = good singing
These exist but as a counterpoint powerful-soft is a scale just like high-low and if someone doesn't have much range on that scale and is unable to hit powerfully when the song calls for it then they are objectively worse than someone who does and can (all else being equal).

>> No.74317729

>>74294207
>>74314153
These niggers get it. Sure everyone in OP's image might technically be 'talented' or whatever but they lack the most important quality: SOVL. The most SOVLFVL, and therefore best, singers in holo are Ame, Fauna and Shiori.

>> No.74317781

>>74308055
I'm unironically deaf to idol songs and I don't know how to judge singers of that genre. I also feel unqualified, and scared, to quantify Sora. I don't want to get her involved in this dick measuring contest.

Post Sora songs anyway, I need a refresher.

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>>74317781
nta, I also don't much care for typical idol music and I think Sora is high-mid at best (decent but nothing special voice, good training and control but still unrefined, not a fan of most of her song choices) but that said I've been listening to this one since it came out and it fucking bangs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCsWgOMu4_8

>> No.74318555

Gura is easily the best at singing slower/more emotional songs out of that bunch.

>> No.74319258

As someone who actively watch karaoke streams, Irys and Mumei always meets expectation. Almost everything they sing is legit good. Marine has a unique voice that is very good for certain songs. Nerissa is subpar on everything but when she goes acapella or any theatrical songs, she blows everyone in the dust. No one in holo can match her control and i mean that geniuenly. Risu is good but it feels like she really need some vocal coach. Her live karaoke when compared to the songs she releases is night and day. For Gura, its very comforting and has a very unique gura-twist to the point that I prefer her version than the original. Suisei is kinda similar to irys and mumei you know it'll be good but with the added vibrato.

>> No.74319774

>>74288872
Is very complicated to make a top, because we are talking very different types of voices. Like, Moona and AzKi are equally good by all metrics but are very different voices, suited for very different kinds of music. So with those 'tops' is basically like comparing a country singer with a soprano. So you need to have categories because we are talking about different singers, fitting different labels.

As a musician Cali is obviously number 1 in Hololive, she is accomplished, she makes her own music, and is not afraid to experiment and go out of her comfort zone. But the best voice? That's complicated, and it really depends on the music as everyone has their strengths and weaknesses. Marine for example is the best for city pop and old school anime music. But I don't think she will do great outside of that sound. Mumei really surprised me with her rock karaoke's, her voice is very suited for that kind of music, and comparing her early karaoke with current went, she really evolved a lot. Bae has a very strong voice, and is very versatile, and I think she is severely overlooked in those discussions. Kobo is also missing from this discussion weirdly enough despise her capabilities and universal appeal. I am not fully sold on Nerissa yet, because she is too focused on her voice, and doesn't have her own sound yet.
Suisei is indeed by far the best singer, because she is insanely versatile, and at this point I am yet to see a genre or sound where she is weak - pop, jazz/blues, rock, idol music - she can do anything, and she is still evolving. Risu is up there too, unfortunately her position in ID, just like with Moona, are limiting her opportunities and the chance for her to establish herself as a singer. Add to that her lack of ambition, and there you have it.

Towa has a nice and distinct voice, but she is nerfed a lot live, as she tries to hit way above her weight, and probably didn't find a fit trainer to help her evolve.

Irys and Azki are tied, as both have very marketable voices, with great technique and versatility, but mainly suited for Japanese pop.

Kanata is also very good from what I've seen, but I never got much into her music, so my knowledge is limited.

Watame is another one with marketable voice, and very good technique, and experience, as she seem to know very well where her strengths and limits are.

As for Gura... personally, Gura is my favorite voice in Hololive. Her voice is just magic. Each time I put on her karaoke music, it just give me joy no matter how stressful or under the weather I am. Is also very gentle and doesn't exhaust me as other music does. Is crazy, is like she can inject charisma through her own voice.

>> No.74320190

Mumei singing is awful

>> No.74320257

>>74318555
the easiest shit to sing

>> No.74320524

>>74320257
If its so easy how come no one can even come close to her level

>> No.74320576

>>74319774
see>>74314632

>> No.74320676

>>74320190
Shit opinion

>> No.74320687

>>74320524
>If shitting your pants is so easy, how come no one can even come close to her level?

>> No.74320850

>>74320676
are you mad baby boy

>> No.74322412

>>74317781
>Idol songs
Why genre even matter? Unless you're talking about taste, you can objectively measure the difficulty level of each songs, Sora's songs are crazy hard to sing because the key is very high with fast tempo, there are reason why people find it unbelievable that a human can nail a Vocaloid songs like Alien-Alien without changing its key, if we are strictly talking about objective thing like skill/technique, Sora is way ahead that it's not even funny.

>> No.74324473

>>74322412
>crazy hard to sing because the key is very high with fast tempo
That only makes the songs crazy hard to sing if your voice doesn't naturally fit that high range. If it does then it's no more impressive than anyone singing any other song. Sora does those songs because it's exactly in her wheelhouse.

>> No.74325832

>>74324473
You clearly have no idea what you're talking about, no one is able to sing on such extreme pitch unless you are very trained, you can have the range but without proper training not only you will choke or worse injure your throat.

>> No.74326271

>>74316513
>Gura in SSS tier
No

>> No.74326441

>>74288872
>Gura is a good singer
Wtf is this meme?

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>>74311978
>Idiots who think powerful singing = good singing will always fall back and say something like Suisei is the best holo.
Some of her best stuff is where she sings softly or alternates between soft and powerful, though. Her Shoujo Rei cover immediately comes to mind, it's extremely tastefully done and very emotionally charged. For originals, Ryuseigun, comet (midnight jazz arrange), Debutante Ball and Yoru wo Matsu Yo are excellent displays of her softer voice too, she has a really expressive voice and saying that she's just a power singer is a huge meme. Not like being a power singer and being expressive are mutually expressive; literally the foundation of most of rock's most legendary vocalists comes from powerful but soulful singing.

That said, yes AZKi is fucking amazing. I have no fucking clue how OP could possibly forget to include her, she's easily a contender for #1 best singer in hololive. What you say are AZKi's vocal qualities are true and I completely agree; her song "equal" https://youtu.be/JaTS4xhV7b8 is my favorite original song from her and it perfectly showcases all of it. "Take me to Heaven" is another excellent example of it. One of the criticisms I hear from her voice is that she's too "whiny" and that she "can't hold a note" which is utterly insane since that doesn't diminish her singing skill in any meaningful way (and also literally false, just listen to Take me to Heaven).

Honestly, I couldn't tell you whether I like Suisei or AZKi more, so I usually tie them as my #1 favorite singers. They're both so good at what they do, and pretty much always give me chills when they go all out and start feeling it. For me it's fucking bliss when they sing together, their voices compliment each other so well and whichever weakness one displays is perfectly covered by the other. No wonder why almost everyone agrees that their Holofes 5 performance of The Last Frontier is the highlight of the entire event.

>> No.74326645

>>74290591
>Risu, like Mumei, are amazing but she doesn't have enough actual music for us to objectively judge.
Four ori songs and eight covers are not enough?

>> No.74326657

>>74316513
Marine is worse than everyone in the tier you put her in.

>> No.74326702

>>74309172
Ado is mid and overrated as fuck

>> No.74326908

>>74326702
You can say that if you want, she's still leagues above any holo.

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74326922

>>74288872
Everyone on that image has outright called Risu the best singer in hololive except for Marine. I'd like to point out to the last samurais on this board that this includes Suisei who heavily praised her.

>> No.74327012

>>74288937
I agree

Gura >>> All

>> No.74327166

>>74289006
>>74306264
Everyone that tried failed. Only Risu can hit the notes in alice&u.

>> No.74327280

>>74326508
Thank you for actually posting an Azki song you think showcases her skill after three posts asking for them and no-one else bothering.

>> No.74327349

>>74314632
>This nigga listens to baby voice music.

Her voice is the best in hololive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9dDFgBEP44

>> No.74327451

>>74326922
I still haven't fully decided whether Suisei is actually humble or just pretends to be for her image. I like squirrel too tho.

>> No.74327529

>>74327451
Well, she hosted that singing contest to promote great vsingers, and has a weekly radio show specifically made to shill vtubers who sing.

>> No.74327537

>>74327451
>just pretends to be for her image
stop reading /vt/, fucking faggot.

>> No.74327555

>>74316513
>Mori higher than Moona and Risu
Didn't read your post, deadbeat.

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>>74288872
Where is Kobo?

>> No.74327917

>>74327537
I am a very newfag who neither knows nor cares about the longstanding views and stories here, there's just something about her that comes off as ungenuine to me but it's very possible that's just her autism (or my own (or both)).

>> No.74327961

>>74327917
>it's very possible that's just her autism
Go to global and ask for examples of her autism and you'll see things as clear as water

>> No.74328005

>>74327917
maybe you should watch the people you are talking about before spouting your diarrhea.

>> No.74328011

>>74307208
Please. Suisei is ahead of them in hype and marketing. If hundreds of shills are constantly saying she's the best, people are just going to accept it as a fact.

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>>74326908

>> No.74328374

>>74328011
You're acting like Suisei being regarded as a good singer came from her already existing popularity, when it was her singing (and NCP/GHOST) that made her popular in the first place. I agree that Risu is better though, not so much with Towa.

>> No.74329454

>>74289220
Mumei is a crazy good singer. She rarely tries in her karaoke's, but sometimes she lets it out. All her produced singing is good though.

>> No.74330957

>>74288872

>> No.74331523

>>74316513
retard

>> No.74331598

>>74288872
bad thread

>> No.74334509
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74334509

I know my oshi is great but I wouldn't want her in a dick measuring contest. Like what some people are doing here. I know she also wouldn't like it.

>> No.74335532

>>74316513
>Undisputed best rapper in hololive
lmao

>> No.74335733

>>74314598
And you're literally deaf

>> No.74337402

I feel like Azki and Irys both have interesting positions in the holomem singing ranking.
A lot of people would agree that both of them have the technical skills to perform a song perfectly, but they of course lack in power unlike the likes of Suisei(or Moona). So they would rank high just from their pure technical ability, personally I would rank Azki higher than Irys due to Azki's ability to inject emotions into her songs(Inochi is a prime example).

>> No.74337945

Gura is hands down the best and it's not even fucking close. Tourists here clearly weren't here during our days on /jp/ when an anon with a master's degree in music theory proved she was the best. Gura is absolutely in her own league.

>> No.74338665

>>74337945
>forgetting the japs that mathematically proved that suisei's voice is perfect

>> No.74341990

>>74290408
ima keep it real w u
holographic livestreamers 4th generation holoforce
tsunomaki watame's mate #56621903
ain't nobody give a damn for that budoukan dream

>> No.74342369

>>74290591
Senchou's direction is just extroverted-fujo weeb-ecchi lol. it's funny how effective it has been

>> No.74342546

>>74326508
AZKi should cover Yakko's World Map
PERFECT EIGO JOUZU de yoroshii

>> No.74342801

>>74337945
>with a master's degree in music theory proved she was the best.
Meaningless since those people have no taste. They unironically listen to shit like Jacob Collier.

>> No.74343494

>>74289220
>Mori better than Gura and Mumei
Nice bait

>> No.74343821

>>74341990
Rope

>> No.74343875

>>74343821
ha

>> No.74344835

>>74343494
You're fucking delusional

>> No.74351882

>>74337945
Some guy pulled something out of his ass and retards like you are posting about it years leater.

>> No.74356320

>>74288872
gura

>> No.74356802

>>74337945
>listen to the experts
>research says
lmao

>> No.74357509

>>74351882
Farhan literally said Gura's recordings were pitch perfect and at a pro level.
>No but you should absolutely listen to anonymous seething sister #4532 instead, she is bad bro trust me.

>> No.74359170

>>74357509
Producers said the same about Suisei and Risu too. In fact, it's probably more common than people think.

>> No.74359342

Moona's best for Jazzy and Disney type music, and I'd like to see Risu doing some JAM Project stuff (bless Aniki's soul).

>> No.74359813

>>74359170
Producers don't know shit and will always puff up whoever they're working with.

>> No.74360182

>>74359813
>Music producers don't know shit but random anons shitting on holos do!
Weird angle

>> No.74360543

>>74360182
I had sex with your dad in a weird angle.

>> No.74361625

>>74328217
suis from Yorushika mogs them both

>> No.74362639

>>74288872
>Suisei is pretty clearly regarded as being the best
lol, delusional Suifag

>> No.74362885

>No Gobo
>No Rissa
>Implying Risu isn't number one or atleast number two with a powergap to three

>> No.74362939

>>74337945
>Professional Music Expert reacts to Gawr Gura
Lmao got a Fantano review to back that up too?

>> No.74363057

>>74357509
If that your argument bumchud You can watch like a trillion videos about vocalists and other "experts" cumming to Stellar Stellar, especially the one take version.

>> No.74363071

>>74316513
Dogshit tier
Masterwork analysis, straight outta my head. Especially the part about Irys, that shit hurts my soul

>> No.74363107

>>74325832
Retard sama...

>> No.74363657

>>74363107
>t.retarded LARPer

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>>74327875
And here I am wondering why no one mentions Kobo. OP isn't just talking about singing prowess, but also achievements. I mean sure Gura and maybe Mori, but IRys? Risu? Risu may have the best voice in Hololive but she, Irys, and the likes has no significant achievements.

Kobo on the other hand is solid. Her voice might not be the best but her singing is always consistent, even Risu and Gura still out of tune from time to time. Kobo has that professional singer level pitch control like Suisei. And there's no doubt about her achievements.

Listen to her new song if you haven't, because I'm sure most of you haven't
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50Ura_ZcSvY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50Ura_ZcSvY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50Ura_ZcSvY

>> No.74364814

>>74335733
Are family guy musical segments your number 2 ?

>> No.74364922

>>74327349
This is a joke right?
The only possible good thing you could say about this is that she has a clear voice
Thats it

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>>74289093
Only good post ITT

>> No.74365320

>>74327166
>being able to hit high notes = being a good singer
who the fuck let these retards in here?

>> No.74365526

>>74363057
I don't remember saying anything about Suisei being better or worse faggot, but Gura is definitely great. After that is a matter of preference, you can make a good case for many of them and it's subjective since their voices and singing style differ wildly. You could probably ask 10 different coaches to rank them and you would get 10 different rankings. People will keep making these retarded threads and nobody will ever agree because there is nothing to agree on to begin with. Just enjoy the holos instead of using them to partake in tribal wars.

>> No.74366267

>>74288894
this

>> No.74366783

>>74334509
She gets mogged by Towa in a dick measuring contest

>> No.74368977

>>74288894
really?

>> No.74368997

>>74288872
Suisei > Okayu > Risu > Towa > Polka

>> No.74369515 [DELETED] 

The fuck is Dende saying

>> No.74372065

>>74317193
You got the source for that Ojou?

>> No.74372135

>>74317729
>doesn't even mention Noel
This is how you know this anon doesn't know shit about SOVL

>> No.74372383

>>74320190
I haven't watched Mumei since debut, but I cried while listening to her sing "Mumei" at 5th fes. I was in the audience and that shit was amazing.

>> No.74374355

>>74288872

>> No.74376247

I don't have to much to say other than Gura is really not in the same league as people like risu, suisei, kanata, azki, nerissa, mumei etc

>> No.74377395

>>74328217
both have absolute shit teir music (minus that ado one piece song generously granted her by nasutaka yakata)

>> No.74377752

>Suisei is pretty clearly regarded as being the best singer in Hololive
>Literally called Risu the "Celine Dion" of Hololive
Risu is better than Suisei by Suiseis own standards.

>> No.74377919

>>74377752
do risufags really?

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74378993

hehehe pinis

>>74327451
>>74377752
suzy's just being polite

>> No.74380944

>>74377752
what do you retards want suzy to go: "yeah risu is good, 2nd place after me obviously"

>> No.74383841

>>74377752
I just don't see the Risu hype. I've listened to her stuff and she's good but it seems like people associating being able to go into a lower register with some impossible level of skill

>> No.74384095

>>74377752
Kek

>> No.74389218

>>74288872
IRyS

>> No.74389457

>>74288872
Towa has my favorite voice in Holo, on sheer timbre alone, makes me think of those jazz singers from the 40s and 50s (ella, billie holiday...). But in terms of overall technique, range and so on... no. 2 is clearly risu.

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>>74334509
Pretty much, i also don't think there is any point in comparing them since everyone has different strengths, niches and settings in which they perform well in.

>> No.74389960

>>74334509
These thread always devolve into shitflinging.
They are always made by people wanting to stir shit. That's the only purpose of these type of threads, OP is a faggot.

>> No.74390194

>>74293433
If this were true all EN covers would be in moonrunes.

>> No.74391126

>>74380944
Saying someone is great and that someone is fucking Celine Dion are wildly different things, for starters the former doesn't need to insinuate whoever you're praising is better or worse than you, the latter does.
And I disagree with her

>> No.74392574

>>74359813
>Producers

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>>74288872
I would swap out some, but going off of this list for voice alone:
1. Risu
2. Suisei
3. IRyS
4. Towa
5. Mumei
6. Moona
7. Gura
8. Marine
9. Mori
If I had a choice, I would replace Calli with AZKi and put her at #3.

>> No.74397465

>>74383841
I'm agree with you anon

>> No.74397611

>>74288872
It’s fucking Kanata you retard it’s always been Kanata and anyone saying otherwise is delusional.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dYChYs1vzmc&pp=ygUOVW5yYXZlbCBrYW5hdGE%3D

>> No.74397812

>>74288872
Irys and Risu have the skill, Marine and Gura have the pull, Mori has the work ethic, but literally no one else is the whole package.

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>>74366783
Hmmm I'm not sure if you are implying a literal dick measuring contest...

>> No.74399445

>>74398304
I know that doujin.

>> No.74402911

>>74288872
Number of songs I've downloaded
Gura: 120 covers, 14 duets and a couple of songs on her old channel.
Mumei: 3
IRyS: 0
Mori: 0
Suisei: 5
Moona: 2
Risa: 0
Marine: 0
Towa: 1
Gura is unironically one of my favorite singers period, she's at the Johnny Cash level where if I hear her sing something there is a 9 in 10 chance I'll have to save it. I'd kill for a Gura bluegrass album, hell I'd buy an album where she sings a cappella.

>> No.74403061

>>74402911
Your embarrassing taste doesn't prove anything.

>> No.74403182

>>74397611
I love Kanata but she's way too nasal, I listened to her Bling-Bang-Bang-Born and ソワレ covers and they don't really hit quite right.

>> No.74404428

>>74402911
>being unironically proud of not listening to IRyS

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>>74288872

>> No.74407970

>>74405299
I'm pretty sure Towa-sama has a 10 incher but it's always flaccid no matter what you do to her micro pp state.

>> No.74412462

>>74289093
fpbp

>> No.74412679

>>74326908
That's not saying much.

>> No.74412689

I think Risu is the better singer and really like her songs.
But admittedly Suisei is more prolific and I do enjoy the recorded version of Debutante Ball more than any Risu recording.
However Risu's performance of Alice&U in the 2023 is by far the best live performance of any Holo talent.

Marine has insane production values and she has the best orisong IMO: Unison. An honestly incredible track.

>> No.74413314

>>74288872
Surprisingly civil thread

>> No.74415685

>>74288872
Blue shart doesn't belong in this picture.

>> No.74420046

>>74306486
she cute

>> No.74420201

>>74288872
>Suisei is pretty clearly regarded as being the best
Towa > Marine > Suisei

>> No.74421456

Nothing beats Gura's karaoke.
Most can't carry a tune, using heavy mixing on their releases.
Gua sounds best without it.

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74425626

Fuck it, sorter time.

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74426534

Not gonna bite the bait and ask a question instead, is Hanatan too old to join Hololive ?
I would literally lose my mind at holofes if she managed to sing as well as she used to in front of a big audience
https://youtu.be/AxhZgT_Hx2I?si=EzGoBdGZ4gGDNuHA&t=173

>> No.74426747

>>74426534
How can she farm gachikois when she's openly married?

>> No.74427246

>>74426747
I didn't know about that, some people wouldn't like it so I guess it's better for her to stay like this
I think she deserves to be famous though

>> No.74427855

>>74425626
I'd contend that Choco is more SOVLFUL than Fauna. Her karaoke is like listening to a stinkin drunk.

>> No.74431676

>>74292587
No need to King

>> No.74434213

>>74288872
no

>> No.74436226

>>74288872
IRyS

>> No.74438318

>>74288872
suisei>=gura>kobo>mumei>towa>moona>risu>azki>irys>calli>marine>kanata

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>>74288872

>> No.74440551

>>74288872

>> No.74444751

>>74288872
gura

>> No.74447435

>>74372135
I'm an EOP but if you think she has SOVL I'll add her to the list

>> No.74447475

>>74288872
I liked Coco

>> No.74448151

>>74288872
>No AZKi
>No Sora
>No Noel
I know you're retarded but come on OP

>> No.74448441

ITT: ENsharts and SEAmonkeys' garbage opinion.

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