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HOW DO I LEARN JAPANESE FAST???

>> No.74821378

Much too late anon

>> No.74821395

learn kana
learn grammar
watch anime with JP subtitles

>> No.74821501
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfPRX8fz4Iw

>> No.74821660

>>74821330
You're 6 hours too late, anon. You're gonna have to learn so fast you'll go back in time.

>> No.74822261

>>74821330
learnjapanese.moe
cure dolly
tae kim
animelon
anki every day

>> No.74822720

>>74822261
anki is a meme

>> No.74822788

>>74821330
https://youtu.be/E6588DlZW-c

>> No.74822868
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>>74821330
>HOW DO I LEARN JAPANESE FAST???
read https://tatsumoto.neocities.org/

>> No.74822924

>>74821330
suicide and reincarnate as a japnig

>> No.74822948

>>74821330
you don't

>> No.74823014

>>74821330
watch so much anime to the point that you become one with your chair

>> No.74823124

>>74821330
>touhou
>offcollab
and the sex, you waffians promised me there will be sex between the baubaus and marine

>> No.74823176

>>74821330
Duolingo and watching JP streams let me understand like 50% of what they are talking about(80% with context clues) after only a few months.

>> No.74823221

>>74821330
Isn't the whole purpose of Hololive English™ so that you don't have to learn a dying language?

>> No.74823342

>>74823176
no it didn't lol

>> No.74823411

>>74823124
There was, but it was on a different channel behind membership.

>> No.74824472

>>74822720
it isnt

>> No.74824517

>>74823176
Bullshit

>> No.74824584

>>74823221
>muh dying language
you smug pieces of shit deserves another 9/11

>> No.74826210

>>74822868
DJT is rude. I was super new to Japanese and passed N4 and they all made fun of me for being happy and bullied me out of the thread.

>> No.74826381

>>74826210
/djt/ told me to watch vtubers for immersion.
They recommended Korone, Miko and Luna.
i can't stay mad though because i discovered my oshi.

>> No.74826408

>>74826210
you should have joined the community instead of staying in the thread
https://tatsumoto.neocities.org/blog/join-our-community

>> No.74826515

50 FUCKING TIMES

YOU BITCH

>> No.74826834

>>74826408
Is this really better? Aside from the fact that they were belittling people for trying their best to learn the language just because they were beginners, the threads are.... very strange. Seems to be like a couple of schizos posting the same stuff over and over again. They don't even talk about learning the language they just fightwith eachother while referencing extremely insular inside jokes all thread long while sometimes talking in Japanese.

>> No.74827458

>>74826834
it's just a discord room

>> No.74827529

>>74821330
Trust the AJATT method.

>> No.74827574

>>74826210
That's just all generals. The longer they exist, the worse they get

>> No.74828730
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Just study?

>> No.74828766

>>74821330
Should've started 3 years ago

>> No.74829279

By the time you learn Japanese all the Japanese people will be dead.

>> No.74829814

>>74826834
You're not supposed to use the thread, It's just a shitposting dump where they talk about IQ and gossip about some faggot named matt. If you want a more non-schizo community, trying joining themoeway discord.

>> No.74830998

>>74821330
Simply extract Kiwawa juice directly from her veins. Drink and in a few months, you'll be... underage and... alone in Japan? But you're actually fluent so

>> No.74832775

>>74826210
>>74826834
All Japanese learning communities are shit, a waste of time, and filled with creepy fucking sex offenders and troons who don't have anything valuable to tell you. Don't waste a single second on any of the resources in this thread because if they were good, they would be gatekeeping them. If the discord server was "actually BASED!" they wouldn't tell anyone to come.

>> No.74833150

>>74821330
by killing yourself, nothing more japanese than that

>> No.74833313

>>74822261
>cure dolly
A /vt/ relevant answer to be sure, but a very poor one.

>> No.74834119

>>74822720
For languages that use an alphabet, I'd agree that you don't really need SRS, like anki, to get most of the language. However, Japanese has Kanji, so it's hard for me to imagine learning that without a little rote memorization. Even RTK needs a little rote memorization for the mnemonics.
It's boring as hell though, and it can take the joy out of learning the language, so I wouldn't do it too much. A little bit helps a lot though, especially with words and kanji you're struggling with.

>> No.74835415

Do your reps comrade, it's better than sitting all day passively. It might not make sense at first but once you get the taste of actually reading kanji the feeling is better than crack.

>> No.74836285

ankitards be like just one more year and I'll be able to read

>> No.74836652

>>74821330
Die, then hope you reincarnate as a fat middle age nip

>> No.74836685

>>74821330

Move to nihon and talk to people

>> No.74839000

There is no 100% optimal way. Starting now and adjusting a bit as you go is a thousand times better than never starting because you can’t decide on a routine. Download Genki and just go through that. Bonus points if you download Tae Kim, Japanese in 90 days, Tobira, A Dictionary of Japanese Grammar, A Dictionary of Basic Japanese Particles (and the Advanced one as well), Kodansha Kanji Learner’s Course(KKLC), All About Particles, Genki’s graded readers, and KKLC’s graded readers. Supplement Genki with the other books mentioned, and some googling, when you want clarification on a lesson or for any other question you have.
Learn hiragana and katakana immediately, there are good methods and websites a google search away. Then move on to kanji radicals, which are the basic components of kanji. Radicals will help you with mnemonics and breaking kanji down into parts so you aren’t overwhelmed.
Anki is very useful for supplementing your grammar lessons, but Anki alone will never teach you Japanese. Start each lesson after learning the vocab, so you don’t spend 90% of your learning time looking up words. Seth Clydesdale has a pretty useful website for Genki that has Anki decks and other exercises.
If you don’t wanna do Genki, basically do what I said but with another grammar book of your choice (all of the ones I mentioned are good.) Again, though, even if you aren’t 100% confident in your choice for how to learn, as long as you actually study consistently you will eventually make it.
Lastly, don’t bother with /DJT/. They only care about z tier e-celebs from their threads 5 years ago, and shitting on people for learning the language because they failed and gave up long ago. No, I am not kidding. Good luck. Learning a language is incredibly rewarding, especially when you run into it a lot like most vtuber fans.

>> No.74839245

>>74822720
nah i'm able to remember a lot of kanji/vocabs because of anki

>> No.74839334

>>74839000
dude you're full of shit advice. read tatsumoto's guide to japanese first.

>> No.74839445

>>74829814
This moeway guy doesn't know English or Japanese. He's an ESL who spends all day spamming his poorly written "guide" on 4chan so that people give him money on Patreon. Pretty pathetic.
If you want to learn Japanese, follow people who actually know jack shit when it comes to learning a foreign language. Tatsumoto's guide to Japanese is among them.
>>74826834
>Is this really better?
Yes. People who stay in the 4chan thread are not common in the chat.

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>>74832775
>sex offenders and troons
ok but why are troons learning Japanese?

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>>74839334
>>74839445
Okay you sound like a fucking shill and a weirdo. Why are you so desperate to get people in your faggy discord clique? There's literally nothing wrong with that one anon's advice it's all common sense to people who have acquired a second language. I took a look at your gay little site and it has EVERY mark of a scam. And if this isn't some kind of setup for a snake oil scheme- I'm sorry. You are genuinely retarded.

Your site says new learners shouldn't take classes, use textbooks, use graded readers, or watch youtube. Apparently the only thing that is truly effective is joining the tatsumoto discord. Yep, totally not a scam.

>> No.74840378

>>74840104
Tatsumoto has a retarded cult following, you can safely ignore them. The resources are good but him and his followers are absolute faggots.

>> No.74840948

>>74840104
Tatsumoto is a known meme, and gets shilled by a handful of people all the fucking time.
The only thing I really forgot to say in >>74839000 is to not take forever to go through textbooks, and to immerse (preferably in conjunction with other learning) once you have enough of a foundation to actually comprehend part of what you hear and see immersing.

>> No.74841035

>>74840948
which is why they always say
>even if you just wanna listen, learning the kana will help you know the phonemes to listen for

>> No.74841190

>>74840104
Are you fucking retarded? there is no discord because discord is known for spying and politically suppressing its users. people can join on telegram or matrix though, read here https://tatsumoto.neocities.org/blog/join-our-community
>Your site says new learners shouldn't take classes, use textbooks, use graded readers, or watch youtube. Apparently the only thing that is truly effective is joining the tatsumoto discord. Yep, totally not a scam.
Read it once again.

>> No.74841403

>>74839000
>kanji radicals
kys

>> No.74841530

>>74841190
So you're a discordnigger, understood. Can you please go back to your community instead of posting in mine?

>> No.74841674

>>74841403
They’re used to look up kanji, and you can immediately recognize multiple radicals in a single kanji, and easily reproduce them when later writing said kanji, rather than slamming your head against a wall learning 15 random strokes.

>> No.74841803

>>74841674
you're not recognizing shit with it

>> No.74842455

>>74841803
Works on my machine.

>> No.74842857

>>74821330
play eroge

>> No.74842972

Don't use Tatsumoto btw, it's made by some weird schizo spammer. Literally just use the themoeway, it links to a bunch of other useful resources as well.
>https://learnjapanese.moe/

>> No.74843216

>>74842972
You're all fucking weird. Buy an ad

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>>74839485
>country literally invents trap and femboy archetypes
>genderswapping is always portrayed as sexy.
Yeah, why would trannies want to learn nihongonese? It's almost as if they'd have reasons to believe they're welcome.

>> No.74848114

>>74833313
Retard

>> No.74852074

Just anki lmao

>> No.74852544

>>74840378
>Ignore Tatsumoto
Tatsumoto is unironically the best Japanese language guide out there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AO_UNZ13_6E

>> No.74852594

>>74842972
Tatsumoto's advice:
>just use the fucking language!
>use whatever learning method, just keep using the language doing things you like!
>these anki decks are optional

themoeway's advice:
>use my anki deck
>watch dolly's videos because I say so
>subscribe to my patreon for more!
>join my Cringecord

>> No.74852642

>>74852544
I said ignore his retarded cult fanbase, did you AJATT so hard you forgot how to read english?

>> No.74852860

>>74852642
I don't even read english anymore.

>> No.74853985

>>74821501
Based as FUCK.

>> No.74855057

>>74822868
>generally recommended

You’ve already made the task impossible. For every deck I find there’s 30 comments attached to it saying it’s out of date for Japanese Ver 4 and to use this other deck which also has those same 30 comments and I’m as someone who can’t speak Japanese is meant to know which is the correct one and which is telling me nonsense

Dogshit language, speak English like a human

>> No.74855311

>>74826210
Ironically n4 is two levels higher than 90% of djt regulars will ever reach

>> No.74856898

>>74821330
start speaking it

>> No.74857335

Are any of the retards shilling their guides in this thread actually fluent in Japanese?

>> No.74858965

>>74821330

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