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I sat down to watch Aqua’s first twitcast but the entire thing is in Japanese with no subs or in chat translations. I looked online to see if anyone had translated it but I gave up and watched Kiara play Minecraft instead. Anyone can relate?

>> No.7758714

Do you jap reps
>Also
I miss the twitcast stream fuck

>> No.7758815

>>7758714
https://mega.nz/folder/MxUykTAQ#QKhnlDyoak8H5u-dL9xN_g

>> No.7759919

I sub to JP chuubas but don't watch them.

>> No.7760062

>>7757692
If your only goal is to learn enough japanese to enjoy vtubers then start now and don't stop. You can become proficient enough in understanding to enjoy streams to a great degree in a couple months if you stay consistent with it. Sure if you actually want to truly learn the language and speak it then that will take a lot longer, but you can enjoy streams greatly with just some basic reps. Its really not that hard.

>> No.7760166

>>7759919
Me too. I subbed to them because they're in Hololive but I don't watch streams. I tried once but I could only react to the cute noises.
It's better to wait for the clips anyway.

>> No.7760595

>>7760062
Can you offer a bit more guidance because I can read okay but I'd rather study more kanji than work on comprehending this contextual homophonic shit.

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I found I don't really need to understand Botan to get what shes doing most of the time. That lions pretty expressive, and her laughter is the goddamn pinnacle of my day.

>> No.7760940

>>7757692
Learn katakana and hiragana and piece together what she says then use deepl or googletl. Do it enough times and you'll become a no name translator hated by the community for bad rrat, but at least you'll know what she's saying.

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>>7757692
i'm totally fine with being an EOP. I don't understand the shaming that goes on towards EOP's like me at all. like.... why is that something I should feel bad about exactly? japanese isn't a super important language.

the great thing about hololive is that there's a huge wealth of clippers and translators who translate good moments from the streams, so literally why should i give a shit about not knowing japanese?

>NOOOOO you can't watch clippers!
>NOOOOO you have to feel bad about not knowing japanese!!!
lol too bad. suck my dick.

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>>7760062
Where should I start anon? I really want to understand Aqua better. I have resources like books and online guides and stuff on my phone but digging through it all to find what works and what doesn’t sounds hard. I also live with people and I’d rather not have them hear me practicing Japanese

>> No.7761510

>>7757692
You know you don't have to learn a whole new language to enjoy foreign media?
How many people (in the west) who watch anime even now how to speak Japanese? On the flipside, Japanese people also watch English language media (Marvel movies to name something very mainstream) without knowing English.
Subbed clips already exist to fulfill the demand of EOPs who want to understand what happens during stream highlights.
It doesn't make you a less of a fan if you only watch clips. There are some JP Holos whose actual stream I've never watched and I've only watch clips of.
Gatekeeping fans just because they don't understand the language is stupid anyway. The lack of gatekeeping is why Hololive succeeded in the west.
So be proud that you're an EOP. We contributed to Cover's success.

>> No.7761990

>>7758815
Only thing worth in this thread

>> No.7762145

>>7761253
>I also live with people and I’d rather not have them hear me practicing Japanese
My biggest problem right now too.

>> No.7762202

>>7757692
I do my dekinai reps. I imagine another year or so and I'll be at the minimum proficiency I want to be. I just need to read more. If I put more than the minimum effort into it I could probably be decent enough even now, since it's been almost a year and a half since I started.
The only thing I regret is not putting in the effort when I was 16 and actually started wanting to learn nip. I'd be so fucking good by now if I had.

>>7761253
>>7762145
You guys don't have to practice speaking if you don't want to. That isn't stopping you from doing your reading and listening reps.

>> No.7762321

No need to do your reps when clippers exist
HoloEN has the best vtubers anyway. You're not missing much.

>> No.7763297

>>7757692
I don't really watch zatsudans or games that involve a lot of reading / talking. When I do however its usually someone with a nice voice and its just background noise while I do other things.
Most video games, especially if you've played them before are really easy to just follow a long with and you don't necessarily need to understand what they're saying to get a jist of what's going on. Reactions are reactions and again you don't really need to understand what they're saying. And as for music / singing streams both are universal and I personally don't need to understand the lyrics (in the case of singing) to enjoy it.

>> No.7763346

This stream is prime Gura. She is just talking and talking and talking. Its amazing how good of a talker she is and what a fantastic story teller she is. No wonder her viewership is so high right now.

>> No.7763414

>>7763346
She was able to talk about French fries for an hour. I'd watch a stream of her reading names from a phone book.

>> No.7763488

>>7757692
I've coped with it by trying to study Japanese. Since becoming gachikoi just from watching clips I've also found the motivation to go back to college after having dropped out like 6 years ago, so I'm hoping to study it there, too.

>> No.7763574

>>7762202
Same... If my teenage lazy ass didn't use "eh, it'll take like 10 years for me to get good" as an excuse, I'd be really fucking good right now. Don't make my mistake, youngchamas. Time flies, you'll regret not starting when you were young.

>> No.7765326

>>7757692
as others have said, just do your reps.
you'll start making sense of some of what they've said pretty soon.
watching kiara is also helps I believe, since she often translate what she said to jp.
also aqua is one of the talents that are easier to understand, unlike senchou or suzy.

>> No.7765366

>>7757692
I tell myself that learning JP won't matter because i'll kill myself soon anyway

>> No.7765623

>>7765366
You can't kill yourself without finishing your reps, so make plans to sustain your life for at least 4 or 5 years. The rope is a privilege cowards like you aren't afforded.

>> No.7766149

>>7765623
fuck reps, attempting to learn jap and watching vtubers more made me start hating everything jap

>> No.7766468

>>7757692
No se porque ademas de Ingles tambien hablo Español, pero no hay chuubas buenas en Español asi que a efectos practicos es como si fuera EOP aun si onions ESL, lo peor de ambos mundos

>> No.7769125

>>7763574
Seconding this sentiment, zoomerchamas please listen to this if anything. There are so many things that I regret not starting a decade ago because I never bothered thinking about the long-term payout and the me of today has suffered greatly as a result.

>> No.7772781

>>7757692
Just wait for clips. You won't retain Japanese anyway if you don't keep using it in daily life.
Source: forgot a language

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>>7772822
Thanks for the bump I guess. I just ordered a few Japanese learning books I had on my backlog

>> No.7773358

My free time is exclusively reps and I like having JP's on as immersion. I can understand a word here and there.

>> No.7776316

>>7765366
you'll be thinking that same shit 10 years from now as well so just start doing your reps

>>7763574
thirding this, starting at 30 was a dumb idea. feels like my brain has rotted and it takes me twice the time to see the same gains the kids are having. its demotivating but its not stopping me

>> No.7776564

>>7772781
Nonsense, don't listen to this Anon. If you become fluent in a language your brain has officially obtained it. I lived in Germany for 6 years and got gud in it. Then I moved away and didn't use it for 4 years and thought I forgot it all. Turns out a week of going back to Germany was all I needed to activate it again. The only thing you'll probably forget regarding Japanese are the Kanji - because written language isn't the same thing as the actual spoken language (which your brain is literally designed to absorb).

>> No.7784297

>>7757692
I just jerk off

>> No.7784520

>>7757692
Before Hololive I watched a couple streamers occasionally. They were American and would begin around midnight for me. So I was stuck with old school TV.

I want to watch people play games. I also kind of liked anime as a teenager. I really like girls but whenever I seen them streaming they weren't the type I'd want to do anything with except fuck. I can't physically imagine myself fucking a 2d person so I lust after their personalities. It makes me feel like a good person.

>> No.7784562

Just admit that you don't like Japanese streamers and stop pretending that you do

>> No.7784626

>>7757692
Do you reps

>> No.7784721

>>7757692
By not coping in the first place. watching a 2+ hour stream when you don't understand anything is borderline retarded. I only watch EN streams and clips for JP.

>> No.7785419

>>7772781
A decade ago I realized I have enough time in my schedule to fit in some language classes. As I consumed a lot of Japanese media already back then, that was naturally my first choice, but for whatever reason it was a really popular choice for everyone, apparently not even because of anime, but because people in my college thought taking classes in non-Indo-European languages makes you cool and cultured somehow. And so I learned there were people literally camping outside the building where the sign-up sheets were posted, because that's another experience college kids like to brag about. I rolled in at noon, saw that not only Japanese but also French and Chinese were already full and picked Italian instead.

As I ended up never using Italian for anything other than lazy attempts to decipher comics on Sadpanda, I have forgotten pretty much everything to the point where I struggle to recall even personal pronouns. On the other hand I've picked up enough Japanese along the way, all the while never properly studying it, that I could get irrationally angry at the EOPs in the chat for not understanding what a chuuba is saying even if I completely missed every single good joke.

So the moral of the story is that you should pay attention to what's going to actually be useful for (you) and start doing your reps right now because by being here in this thread you are already showing a higher than average interest in Japanese. And like many other people have said, most chuubas use fairly simple Japanese and you'd be surprised at how much and how quickly you begin to understand as long as you put a little bit of effort even if it's going to be years before you can actually read Soseki in the original.

>> No.7785501

>>7757692
Just look up English lyrics for the songs.

>> No.7788432

>>7785501
>>7784721
>>7784562
>>7772781
>>7762321
>>7760989
(You)

>> No.7788730

I’m afraid if I learn JP I’ll find my oshi unbearable, like I do for every EN vtuber, so I just don’t. Like what if I learn only to find out my oshi is JP Elira. I wouldn’t be able to handle that

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watching a Miko stream is an experience far beyond mere words

>> No.7788958

>>7757692
I am ESL
Barely watch jp only

>> No.7790401

I can understand half of what she says but I can't read. I feel like I enjoy it way more than reading only anons

>> No.7790494

if it's not translated that means it's not good enough to be worth watching

>> No.7792489

You can start with learning only vocabulary, that will let you understand most of what Aqua is saying on her streams.

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