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>graduates because of management restricting her creative freedom
>has done nothing creative since graduating

>> No.7786317

Not getting spammed by asshurt chinks is freedom.

>> No.7786353

>>7786285
Yagoo really loves fruit sushi.

>> No.7786362

It's almost like that was just a coverup by Cover or something

>> No.7786372

>>7786285
>as soon as she graduates everyone is free to have bikinis and talk about sex again

Hmmm...

>> No.7786381

So she married yagoo right?

>> No.7786423

>>7786372
Based Kson, I'll kneel forever if her leaving will eventually give us HoloSummer back. A greater sacrifice than Jesus'.

>> No.7786431

Art thread?
Art thread.

>> No.7786439

>>7786372
Wow it's almost as if they realized restricting their talents may cause them to quit!

>> No.7786461

>>7786431

>> No.7786469

>>7786285
well dick and pussy jokes are pretty creative if you ask me

>> No.7786480

>>7786423
>Marine fights management to get bikinis back
>Marine pushes creative freedom with her wacky anniversary variety show
Is senchou secretly Kson's sleeper agent within Cover?

>> No.7786481

>> No.7786493

>>7786285
People exxagerate her creativity because she was a japanese women openly behaving like a westerner and screaming motherfucker. Nothing she did was that creative, Ame is more creative than her.

>> No.7786499

She took the first month off (understandable, considering she marathon streamed every day leading up to her graduation) and has streamed every day of the second. You might not think those streams have been much but she's clearly much happier.

>> No.7786509

>>7786285
>Graduates because of management making Zhangs mod in her chat and doing nothing to fix it
>This hasn't happened since graduating

>> No.7786524

>>7786285
Yea I don't get it either literally the only thing she's done that wouldn't have been allowed in hololive is showing her face

>> No.7786553

>>7786493
anon..

>> No.7786560

>>7786480
More like Marine knows how to fit in instead of being an american bitch and thus can have her way.
Just endure what you must then you can win, Coco was weak.

>> No.7786568

get over it and move on "zhang"

>> No.7786575

>>7786493
Ame is one of the most creative people on YouTube.

>> No.7786595

>>7786285
Maybe you should do something creative, and stop making the same threads over and over again?

>> No.7786631

>>7786560
Anon... Just the fact that she have to fight for something so trivial, is not a good sign.

>> No.7786635

>>7786285
Probably because that's not why she quit

>> No.7786670

>>7786285
Creativity is born out of strife and limitation. She had a ton of restrictions and competition when she joined Hololive, and that's what pushed her above and beyond. She won't be doing anything like that anymore.

>> No.7786726

>>7786285
>Work like hell doing crazy 4-5 AM everyday schedules for Asacoco, using English skill to open the doors to a whole new audience
>Reach shoulder deep and pull Hololive out of a niche gachikoi fanbase with ~400k subs tops to a worldwide phenomenon with dozens of 1M+ sub talents, practically by yourself
>Get suspended for a month for mentioning the EXISTENCE of Taiwan, probably a real wake-up call to someone raised in America on how things operate outside of it.
>Instead of being praised and rewarded for your efforts, management hates your guts and does shit like modding your antis ("accidentally") and getting a ton of your memberships banned.
>Watch newcomers like Gura absolutely mog you in viewership and sub count while doing a fifth of the work you did or less.

Yeah I'd quit, and I'd also give up trying to be a creative if all that happened to me. If titty streams make just as much money if not more, why work hard?

>> No.7786727

>>7786560
Marine's a smoother operator and used her skills to negotiate and consulted with others (apparently also consulting Watame as well) to find an agreeable compromise

>>7786493
Mean that's what got all the EOPs to follow her.

>> No.7786734

>>7786285
Rumao

>> No.7786737

>>7786285
>this thread again

>> No.7786760

>>7786480
To be fair, if Coco didn't leave, Marine's bikini costume and even her show that premiered today won't even be greenlit. Her graduation gave Cover a bitchslap at how they're strangling their talents with their overzealous restrictions.

>> No.7786787

>>7786631
I agree that it's not a good sign, but she already got her thumbnails deleted twice for using fanart of the new costume showing more than the costume itself. The thumbnail for the outfit reveal, showing the bottom part that Cover gave the ok, is still up. It's just really hard to argue against it.
The fact that they're free to share screenshots, videos and fanarts of them in swimsuits, with Matsuri even liking straight up porn, shows that if there was no pushback from Youtube, they would get away with a lot more.
I still wish they'd let them take more chances to see how youtube reacts, but at the end of the day the channels are company property, the talents are hired to stream in them, so it's their call. They don't really have to compromise at all if they don't want to, they just do because they understand now more than ever that having their talents personally pleased is important to keep the business running as usual.

>> No.7786949

>>7786727
This is true. She even said that Noel and Lamy were the ones who stopped her from making the shirt more transparent in the FINAL FORM version, so management was ok with it, but she still listened to others and restrained herself.
To management, this shows that she's reasonable and will listen instead of just being stubborn on getting her way. Making them more likely to listen to her requests again in the future.

>> No.7787035

I get that the OP is probably just some baiter who's started this same discussion up several times before but just for the record she does say there's at least two big things currently being prepared for this year that she expects will surprise people. Also a lot of the content she's been thinking up is waiting on her getting a new avatar which is still only halfway done.

>> No.7787071

>>7786285
Small indie vtuber please andastando.

>> No.7787088

>>7786285
it was a schizo rrat from this trashy board and maybe reddit. did you unironically believe it?

amerimutt sjws often blame everything on japan to hide their woke censorship and bully their heads in the sand. also chinks join it.

>> No.7787193

>>7787035
Anon you are too reasonable and well informed for this thread.

>> No.7787294

>>7786726
I don't think money has much to do with it. The response you get as a streamer matters a lot.
It used to be bugs + support, now it's dick picks and support. Chotto matte, unlike the Chinese which she was never blaming for anything, she did say she didn't want those...

>> No.7787392

11 days have passed and she still hasn't revolutionised the Vtuber world... this fucking bitch.

>> No.7787611

I heard that she was planning an enema stream, talk about innovation! Make it a weekly occurrence and she'll be making bank in no time!

>> No.7787710

>>7787392
soon... anon, soon
im waiting for her indie Vtuber ark server, making easier for chuubas to collab.

>> No.7787883

>>7786285
you might as well post a link when you are shilling

>> No.7788204

>>7786285
not a vtuber
CLEAN IT UP

>> No.7788455

>>7788204
>not a vtuber CLEAN IT UP

>> No.7788487

>>7786493
You’re not wrong by current standards. Coco’s creativity with streams compared to the other hololive streams were as new and innovative as Ame’s are now.
Only Haachama and occasionally Marine would do something other than flavor of the week gameplay or karaoke.

>> No.7788524

>>7786493
>she was a japanese women openly behaving like a westerner

>> No.7788597

>>7786285
Narukami's rrats were actually true and Coco was his informant https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3T57HYEvV4

>> No.7788625

>>7786493
>she was a japanese women
ESL please go

>> No.7788701

>her most popular content was directly ripping off a concept pewdiepie popularized including his catchphrase for the show "next meme"
>creative
I don't think cover was the one holding her back

>> No.7788828

Don't worry anons, she'll start a /vt/ Takes review soon

>> No.7788847

holy shit, you ex-tatsunokos are as delusional as the zhangs.

>> No.7788982

>>7786461
Someone turn off her fucking back lighting

>> No.7789066

I still want to believe Ksonfags and her "big plans" she's definitely working on, but if she keeps on being rewarded for doing the same shit she's always been doing I don't think those will get very far.

>> No.7789080

>>7786493
This, fucking factual

>> No.7789086

>>7786285
t. Yagoo

>> No.7789091

This is just another shitpost thread for (You)'s but i'll explain the reality in case there's at least 1 anon that actually cares.

She's very autistic about her character, always was, same with what people expect of her streams.
Not being able to meet those expectations was killing her inside so instead of phoning it in she decided to quit, for her character legacy.

She doesn't have to "prove" anything because you're looking at it the wrong way.
If an actor that became famous for a certain role in a movie rejects working in the sequel because it's not what he wants for his character (the script is shit or they butcher everything good that he did in the first movie) the natural way to react to it is "wow, he actually cares, good", not "UH WELL HE HASN'T DONE ANYTHING SINCE THEN".

Why does someone who left the most superchatted channel in the world have to ""prove"" something? you have someone who's not fake and actually gives a shit in front of you and yet you're too butthurt or dumb to see it.

Kson could stream nothing but ARK for years and she would still be in the right, if anything we need more vtubers who actually care about their characters and less fake ones that are only in it for the money.

"Coco" is dead, you would have a point if she took her character with her and was now streaming as Coco while being an indie, that is not the case.

>> No.7789128

>>7789080
I sure do love the third smol ame stream in a role.

>> No.7789134

>>7788597
Mel at least had something to gain from telling him.
Coco didn't.

>> No.7789151

>>7787193
I suppose you're right. Lots of posts here that have some very strong opinions while strangely enough at the same time also demonstrating that they have zero clue what she was all about in the first place.

>> No.7789156

>>7789080
Asacoco. You fucking newfag.

>> No.7789260

>>7786787
Why use YouTube instead of Twitch, which is way more lax? I don't understand this yet.

>> No.7789338

>>7786285
I don't care, I'm just happy for this bitch. She is in a better place now. No more Le Zhang, no more /pol/lution, no more corporate bureaucracy retardation.

>> No.7789412

>>7786431
fuck is wrong with her fingers

>> No.7789415

>>7786560
Marine doesn't have dedicated antis like Coco does.
Management may be strict with her, but she's still not under the same rules as Coco was.
Management knew any mistake no matter how small it was would become a problem with so many chinks after her, Marine does not have this problem, it's unfair to judge their actions and what they manage to convince management when they're not under the same scrutiny in the first place.

And no, don't even try to fucking compare a couple of fujos that moved on after a week to the chinks that spammed her channel and twitter tags for 9 months and are still doing it to this day even after graduating, Coco said it herself in her member stream and then in a superchat reading, everyhing got much worse after the Taiwan thing for her and management didn't even listen to what she had to said and even disrespected her, constantly.

>> No.7789454

>>7789260
Youtube allows for ad revenue from finished streams, uploading clips or other non-live things, and has a different live chat culture (this one is good or bad depending on what you enjoy).
That said, for all I know, Twitch also has ads and gives revenue from VODs, but iirc Twitch VODs are less permanent. Or even if that's changed and they are permanent for partners or whatever, I imagine youtube still has the better overall UX for non-live content.

Also, it's not necessarily that Twitch is more lax, they just don't have shit automated nearly as much. They are also fairly biased against anime style art like Youtube is in regards to bans for sexual content, though whether they are as bad I wouldn't know. That could well include swimsuit outfits being a no-go for them though, especially for more petite talents like Matsuri, Rushia, Shion, etc.

>> No.7789481

>>7789338
>no more corporate bureaucracy
You know she's probably still working for Cover behind the scenes, right?

>> No.7789513

>>7789481
nah, i don't think so

>> No.7789530

she's absolutely based

>> No.7789541

>>7789260
>Twitch is way more lax
>Twitch streamers in fear of their channel because they called someone a simp

>> No.7789561

>>7789481
But her assets are independent now. If Cover is going through another retard phase she's safe, though she can still help her old friends from a distance.

>> No.7789570

>>7789260
twitch chat is garbage filled with one emoji spam

>> No.7789585

>>7789481
There's no reason to believe that.

>> No.7789590

>>7789260
I can't remember which talent it was, but one of them talked about their permissions for games being platform-specific, and with music rights being even more of a pain in the ass, I doubt that's any different. Moving to Twitch means beginning from scratch on these things, which they obviously wouldn't want. Some of them do have twitch channels, but they're basically either inactive or only used for Prime Video watchalongs.

>> No.7789628

>>7786560
>Coco was weak
BAIT
BAIT
THIS ONE'S BAIT

>> No.7789636

>>7789454
That's a good point on VODs. I basically never bother checking VODs on twitch, and this is probably the main way I interact with Hololive except for weekends and days I happen to have off from work, due to timezone differences.

>> No.7789693

>>7789585
>There's no reason to believe that.
There's no reason not to. Quitting her on-screen role with Hololive doesn't mean she had to quit doing off-screen work for them.

>> No.7789703

>>7789570
OK this is true pogchamp sadge omegalul monkaS 5head

>> No.7789735

>>7789080
Stop replying to yourself, faggot zhang.
No-one says "This, fucking factual" to another post here.

Also, Taiwan is a real, independent country.

>> No.7789741

>>7789260
Twitch is better if you're a streamer starting from 0 with no body to help you out in gaining audiences.
Youtube is better for produced content as the videos create a revenue stream over time that adds up. However it's hard for you to grow as a youtube only streamer compared to twitch.

If you're established then youtube is clearly the way to go but twitch is superior in streaming in every way.

>> No.7789776

>>7789570
To be fair, YT chat gets like that too sometimes

>> No.7789855

>>7789628
NTA but
>cried in public
>ran away

>> No.7790008

>>7789855
>cried in public
because her company moded zhangs who banned her members
>ran away.
from the company that literally restricted and did not trusted her with anything she was doing.

>> No.7790022

>>7789855
>She was being bullied for months.
>Cries.
>Keeps going till a scheduled graduation where she goes with style.
Fuck you.

>> No.7790043

>7789855
Bait

>> No.7790227

>>7790043
This whole thread is a bait.

>> No.7790266 [SPOILER] 

>>7789855
Let's see; if you can hold the tears in after I fuck your ass for 8 hours straight you are free to keep shitposting, bitch

>> No.7790501

>>7789776
Not even remotely comparable. I'll never defend YT chat but no matter how much you exaggerate it twitch is still literally 100x worse

>> No.7790575

>>7789585
She was already doing behind-the-scenes work before she was Coco, and she lives with two other Holos.

>> No.7790668

oh shit here comes the hype train make sure you hop on if you don't have real money maybe you can spare some bits hey thanks for the gifted subs thanks for the sub thanks for the gifted subs thanks for the twitch prime sub we hit the hype train now I will call my mom and speak in a funny accent thanks for the bits thanks for the dono thanks for the sub thanks for the gifted sub hey thanks for the twitch prime sub speaking of which it's time to renew your twitch prime subs I hope you'll consider me thanks for the bits thanks for the gifted subs hey thanks for the dono

>> No.7790799

>>7786493
Based anon. Go sub to Watson Amelia Ch. hololive-EN on YouTube.

>> No.7790983

She is very low energy now.
Shame...

>> No.7790989

>>7786285
She isn’t being restricted by any of her choices anymore.

>> No.7791067

>>7786439
>Wow it's almost as if they realized restricting their talents may cause them to quit!
Also after Cover knew Coco was leaving, they opened up many collabs which weren’t happening before. Coco made a big influence.

>> No.7791103

>>7790266
Are you a DWU's husband?

>> No.7791109

>>7786493
>Nothing she did was that creative
Creative freedom means choice. What she does with it is a different matter.

>> No.7791115

>>7790799
kek

>> No.7791290

>>7791115

>> No.7791410

Press X to KSON

>> No.7792533

>>7790799
Amelia Watson
>can't sing
>can't do idolshit
>doesn't care about idolshit
>compensates via "creativity", quirky streams, and being a memelord in general
>plans AmeNews aka AsaCoco 2.0
>actually given the AsaCoco format by Coco herself
>loves Español
Let's face it, Amelia Watson will become the new Kiryu Coco.

>> No.7792721

>>7789693
She literally said she is leaving the company and not working behind the scenes.

>> No.7792725

Ame is Ame and Coco is Coco. They are both different and great. Don't let the crazy people engage in a false dichotomy.

>> No.7792784

>>7786480
If anything Marine is glad Coco left. Less competition.

>> No.7793189

>>7786480
Ironically, the anniversary show was born from creative limitations. She lamented not bieng able to hold another concert for her anniversary because it was too close to her birthday. So how can she make it just as captivating without holding a concert? Dealing with limitations requires creativity.
It's understandable that some would want full creative freedom, but as an end user it won't necessarily translate into better content, and you shouldn't ask for it with that expectation. Many cool things are born out of problem solving, instead of being conceptualized from nothing.

>> No.7793262

>>7788625
She’s dead to me

>> No.7793309

>>7789570
grass

>> No.7793474

>>7793262
Good, one retarded cunt less

>> No.7793575

>>7788204

Are you brain-damaged?

>> No.7795226

Coco's sacrifice had expunged the Zhang, and now the Zhang is banished into Inferno, unable to torment the vtubing world again. Better yet, Coco resurrected, while the Zhang seethes as he continues to be autopermabanned for eternity.

>> No.7795337

>>7795226
Curse the Zhangs, their children too. And their children, forever true.

>> No.7796545

>>7786372
I hope my oshi have sex with her bf when streaming, mmmmmmmh

>> No.7796752

>>7796545
me too , i love ntr

>> No.7796904

>>7786493
You for know she was born and raised in Texas right anon?

>> No.7796977

>>7796904
How do you for know that?

>> No.7796987

>>7792533
Not a single person will become the new Kiryu Coco, she was one of a kind, stop pretending otherwise.
Asacoco was something that Coco put a ton of love into and talked about all kinds of shit, it introduced Hololive to a lot of people that otherwise wouldn't have given it the time of day.

Ame doesn't have the drive do anything like Asacoco, her Amenews thing sounds like some jokey news thing to, it will probably be some one and done shit like Fish Tank was.

>> No.7796989

>>7796545
>>7796752
Ollie aims to please.

>> No.7797052

>Leaves Hololive
>Could easily hit 1m subs by the end of the year
>Still getting thousands of dollars from retards
Why bother being creative, people will give her money regardless.

>> No.7797069

>>7796904
Why does her english sound so bad?

>> No.7797230

>>7797069
She moved to Japan a decade ago and stopped using it in her everyday life. Also she's from Georgia.

>> No.7797317

>>7796752
>>7796545
Based ntr enjoyers

>> No.7797485

>>7797317
>You

>> No.7797702

>>7786285
But can the Holos do Gunpla streams? No. so fuck off.
I love big robots and Kson, and that's enough. I love this BITCHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>> No.7797805

>>7797702
They can:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPzFwoeMe_U
Definitely a much bigger pain in the ass than just turning on your camera and doing it normally, however.

>> No.7797812

>>7797702
Speaking of Gunpla. Is the kits really gifts from Gundam-ojisan? I saw a clip where she said she bought it.

>> No.7797908

>>7797812
They were gifts but she is looking for other kits. I don't know if she already bought one tho.

>> No.7797952

>>7797805
Damn. Imagine how much scolding would they face, if they show just their fucking fingers lol.

>> No.7798048

>>7786285
>>has done nothing creative since graduating
At least she is showing us her tit...gunpla

>> No.7798107

>>7797952
I actually don't think it'd be an issue. Rushia didn't even edit her VOD in the recent stream where she shows her hand:
https://youtu.be/FmUI5Q-AXiI?t=4394
The guidelines are probably to not show, but they're also likely not strongly enforced.
I think we'd probably get gunpla building as Coco anyway if not for the graduation. Again, it would definitely be a bigger pain in the ass, but I think she'd be willing to go through it for her gunpla ojis.

>> No.7798117

>>7798048
BEST CONTENT EVER

>> No.7798134

>>7797230
>>7797069
Only a few years ago her English was extremely "American" sounding while her Japanese was pretty rough. Since applying to ____ she went pretty scorched earth trying to improve her pronunciation & fluency and that combined with putting on a character voice nearly every day really influenced the way she speaks.
Very occasionally she'll still slip back into her Georgia accent and generally seems more comfortable with English numbers.

>> No.7798161

>>7798117
You have to be ultra gay to complain about "creativity" when we have this. Or ultra straight if you're a woman? I don't know. A retard.

>> No.7798199

>>7786493
I've been saying this again and again, Coco was a genious because she managed to walk on the edge of the rules, find loopholes, etc that Cover imposed her, but once that stops being a problem what are we left with?

>> No.7798230

>>7798117
gunpla while wearing a bikini and being drunk, onegaiiii


also moaning asmr gunpla too

>> No.7798288

>>7798117
Kson's "stalker" is such a lucky guy...

>> No.7798316

>>7798288
kek

>> No.7798389

>>7798117
take all my money queen!

>> No.7798415

>>7796904
It was Georgia, not Texas.

>> No.7798508

>>7798389
finally some content and plot

>> No.7798645

>>7798117
>>7798389
not gona, lie if kson were this lewd all the time I would buy a membership and redchat her every single stream

>> No.7798692

>>7786285
She wanted to show her 3D self deep down

>> No.7798728

>>7798107
Really? I thought she already edited that out. Because I remember that one collab where Rushia showed her fingers caused so much shit.

>> No.7798779

>>7786285
No matter what type of content she'll do in the future. it will never """"creative"""" in the eyes of you faggots. Go suck Yagoo's dick.

>> No.7798825

Given the streams she's done this month so far, it's clear what she wants to stream is very different to the activities Hololive would've wanted her to partake in.

Karaoke streams, idol dancing practice, minecraft, collab on games with other members that she may not enjoy playing; she probably didn't want to do these things. And that is in a corporate sense of the wording a "creative difference". She's now free from doing those things. Would you not find it strange if Kson continued to do karaoke and play Minecraft? Accept her for what she actually enjoys, not what a company told her to do as a job.

>> No.7798847

>>7798728
I don't doubt you, but I imagine it would be between her and her schizos, and she wouldn't necessarily be scolded. Otherwise this VOD would either be down or edited.

>> No.7798907

>Schizos tried to cancel Matsuri
>No one cares and she doesn't even get a drop in viewers because the ones shitting on her don't even watch her
>Leap to the reliable Kson hate train
You dumb cunts are so full of anger.

>> No.7798920

>>7798825
I really enjoyed her singing Sobakasu. :(

>> No.7798938

>>7798825
>she probably didn't want to do these things
It's called being an adult and having a job. Stop looking at these adult women as if they here delicate children being abused by evil adults

>> No.7798942

>>7798825
Is a shame, I really liked the karaoke

>> No.7798968

>>7798825
>>7798920
>>7798938
>>7798942
Anons...
https://youtu.be/8nHx7-q7v44?t=15476

>> No.7798983

>>7798907
cope and lie to yourself elsewhere, lyger
this is a grown ups thread

>> No.7798997

>>7798968

>> No.7799004

>>7798825
I don't think karaoke streams are something mandated by the company, just something the girls do themselves to keep their skills sharp since they're technically idols. iirc Lamy has only done one or two non-member karaoke streams so far

>> No.7799020

>>7798968
stfu! kson was abused by management and she hates singing and being idolish! reeee~

>> No.7799021

>>7798983
KWAB and seethe.

>> No.7799159

>>7798983
kuks be like
lol
just ignore his "matshuri did nuffin!" post and dislike all her videos like everybody else is doing lol

>> No.7799204

>just ignore drama bait
If only...

>> No.7799220

>>7799159
>and dislike all her videos like everybody else is doing
JPN bros are the basedest!

>> No.7799278

>>7786372
>everyone is free to have bikinis
Where's Marine's 3D bikini livestream you imbecile?

>> No.7799324

>>7786285
Daiko 3.0 isn't ready yet. The extra dick took more time to model than expected.

>> No.7799631

>>7798942
https://youtu.be/hGKDqZ6f4YE?t=7425

>> No.7799849

>>7799631
Very cute. And it's almost September again.

>> No.7799860

>>7786493
based, fuck this vshojo-tier whore

>> No.7799864

>>7786493
But /jp/ Holofags likes Ames

>> No.7799877

>>7786285
She did one creative thing, though. Here it is, behold, what Cover wouldn't have let her do:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wWcPezDO4s

>> No.7799881

>>7786285
1) She joined Hololive to have fun.
2) The chinese took the fun out of it.
3) She left when it was no longer fun.
Is not rockect science, this is pretty much the fact of the whole thing.

>> No.7800114

>>7786285
here's the rrat
she's planning an agency with members who do both virtual and real streams regularly
didn't say it was a good rrat

>> No.7800339

she played bayonetta without having to ask permission, that's freedom enough

>> No.7800403

>>7798825
>Karaoke streams, idol dancing practice, minecraft
Not idol dancing necessarily but she did say a stream or two ago that she's taking singing and dancing lessons and when it comes to Minecraft she's even considering creating a viewer server. Don't be so quick to jump to conclusions, she claims her activities aren't really starting in full till the new model is ready anyway.

>> No.7801394

>>7786493
Based and blackpilled

>> No.7801561

>>7786493
And by "people" you mean Yagoo and basically every single holo member? Do your hololive reps, EOP, we all know you started watching hololive when EN was a thing.

>> No.7801584

>>7792533
I ain't reading all that shit, nigga.

>> No.7805092

>>7786285
But does she still have the potential for creativity? That's the important part.
That wasn't the actual reason either lol it was clearly China.

>> No.7806594

>>7786285
Posting crazy wahman shit on twitter

>> No.7807593

>>7798117
https://youtu.be/yklD0pH-WKs

>> No.7807642

Wait what the fuck? Coco graduated? Jesas thankfully I got out of this vtubing shit before it got to this point. Always hated her but hololive must be too corporate now

>> No.7807875

>>7807593
is there a version without the dude?

>> No.7807944

>>7807875
https://youtu.be/JGxVAT_0IMI

>> No.7807988

>>7807944
they are looking at me!
thanks bro

>> No.7807994

>>7786493
That's it. Without hololive and idol thing she's just a western whore speaking japanese. She's even promoting LGBTQIA shit with a adidas love unites campaign... Western globalhomo agenda is already here.

>> No.7808012

>>7786493
I always considered her a boundary pusher but looking back, she didn't really do anything all that groundbreaking. All she did was forget the rules repeatedly and steal ideas from other YouTubers, during a time when Hologirls were only streaming Ark. I bet she made the other girls feel uncomfortable too, just the whole "boss girl" demeanor yelling at them to wise up if they're crying or scared. idk anymore. Like another anon said, it's weird how all the girls started getting bikini outfits and talking more openly about sex now that she's gone, maybe she was a thorn in Hololive's shoe all along?

>> No.7808146

This bitch is so ugly without makeup. How do you fags simp for this?

>> No.7808168

>>7796545
meh, it's already been done before.

>> No.7808239

>>7808146
tits > ass > face
faces are only for effeminated "males" and lesbians

>> No.7808308

>>7786493
Didn't Kson/Coco grow up in America though?

>> No.7808313

>>7786493
This. asacoco was the only quality original thing she did, and even then was heavily carried by contributions from other holomems especially watame. As good as asacoco was it was more than cancelled out by the other garbage she did like reddit meme review.

>> No.7808334

>>7799860
virgin

>> No.7808354

>>7807994

She's gay as fuck and married Kanata. Did you not expcet her to be gay as fuck?

>> No.7808404

>>7808313
Yeah sure man, clearly the entire show was carried by the weather drawing. Come on now.

>> No.7808409

>>7798825
She did way more karaoke than some other members regardless if she was a better or worse singer(mel, choco, botan, lamy, ame, ina, risu, iofi, reine and (until recently) noel)

>> No.7808512

>>7786726
>Reach shoulder deep and pull Hololive out of a niche gachikoi fanbase with ~400k subs tops to a worldwide phenomenon with dozens of 1M+ sub talents, practically by yourself
Delusional. Gura is the reason hololive is popular in the west. Anything coco did would have been done by Gura anyways.

>If titty streams make just as much money if not more, why work hard?
It's called having standards, which is something coco doesn't have evidently.

>>7788701
This.

>> No.7808773

>>7808512
Be more subtle zhangbao an his friends, you circlejerking the whole thread with literally same opinions, add some diversity of you wanna look believable.

>> No.7808908

>>7799881
It'd be one thing if she said she left because she was too stressed due to various factors (chinks included). However, what she actually said was that Hololive grew too big, her humors are on the edgier side, and there were so many restrictions that she couldn't create the kind of contents she wanted.
That's what makes current situation weird / funny. It's not unreasonable that people'd expect her post-graduation streams to be significantly innovative or creative, is it? After all, she's someone who claimed that she left her beloved group / family for creativity freedom. Yet, she has done nothing particularly more creative (than other streamers or her Coco's streams) even after graduation. What happened to her "creativity", then?
For the record, I have nothing against her current streams and I'm happy that she seems to be happy enough (some menhera-ish twitter posts asides). I guess I just had too much expectations because of how much people hyped her up

>> No.7808937

>>7808908
See >>7787035

>> No.7808942

>>7808927

Are you just mad Xiping banned Adidas in your country or something?

>> No.7808948

>>7808354
Do you watch JAV? Shiina Sora ie is lesbo as hell but doesn't want to brainwash you all the fkin time like westerns mf do.

>> No.7808955

>>7786285
Kson is part of Cover's Secret Menu

>> No.7808966

>>7808948

Her whole identity is Adidas, why wouldn't shes do a charity with them?

>> No.7810063

>>7808146
Holy shit. This post screams "I am a retarded faggot". Of course most women looks meh without make-up, what did you fucking expect? lol.

>> No.7810285

>>7808168
dumb eop twittertard

>> No.7810337

Name a single Holo that has done a shisushi review. I'll wait.

>> No.7810354

not really. she did a whole stream calling her fans creeps and weirdos.

>> No.7811364

I'm about to destroy my dick to this RFA stream

>> No.7811452

I wish she'd get a desk and a proper chair. I feel sorry for her ass.

>> No.7811485 [SPOILER] 

HOLY SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT

>> No.7811490

SHE'S RING FITTING WITH A SPORTS BRA ON

>> No.7811502

badonkas lets go

>> No.7811507

What's the opposite of Uooooooooh

>> No.7811526

>>7811507
Hoooooooou

>> No.7811529

ARE YOU...JACKING OFF?
I wish she would stop leaning forward It keeps twitching every time she does on reflex

>> No.7811563

>>7811529
What's that tat say?

>> No.7811583

>>7811563
"The South will Rise Again"

>> No.7811615

This is high tier scuffed

>> No.7811634

>>7811615
This is good, right?

>> No.7811651

>>7811615
The fucking duct tape is killing me.

>> No.7811699

Oh shit she does have a tat.

>> No.7811715

>>7811699
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA SSEEEEEEEEEEEEXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

>> No.7811716

The Southern accent is slipping out.

>> No.7811723

>>7789481
Yea she also personally scouted, interviewed, and made models for EN.

>> No.7811729

>>7798117
>High Grade
Fucking casual, that disgusts me even more than the fact that it's IBO

>> No.7811738

>Blue hair
>Tattoo
>Tongue piercing

This is your queen.

>> No.7811757

>2 active thread for 1 stream.
Cocock too stronk

>> No.7811761

>>7811738
Never got a BJ from a girl with a tongue piercing before, huh?

>> No.7811769

RATE YOUR CURRENT ERECTION

>> No.7811787

>>7811769
respect for women/10

>> No.7811808

>>7811738
It feels pretty great on your pussy.

>> No.7811813

>that high pitched fucking giggle
Fuck, didn't expect to have ruptured ear drums before 7 AM.

>> No.7811834

>>7811716
You can't grow up in Georgia and not have an accent

>> No.7811838

>>7811813
is that all she's ruptured?

>> No.7811882

Oh the webms are going to be amazing.

>> No.7811891

MYYYYYYYY DIIIIIIIIIIIIIIICCKKKKKKKK

>> No.7811926

Y'all commenting how hot she is when jogging and here I am just enjoying her drink sipping moments

>> No.7811964

>>7811769
>>7811738
Fuck. Okay Cocofags you got me, I am a fan now.

>> No.7811972

being free of chink spammers is enough

>> No.7811990

>>7808239
>tits > ass

>> No.7812021

EXPOOOOOSSSSSEEEDD PITTTTTTTSSSSS

>> No.7812027

>>7811769
Diamond Dogs/10 but this just reinforce the fact that OP is correct.

>> No.7812035

How many HP does this little bastard have

>> No.7812044

>heavy breathing
>panting
>groans of exhaustion
I can only get so erect

>> No.7812095

>knees are dying
kek

>> No.7812096

>>7811364
>>7811485
>>7811490
I swear to God I woke up right when this stream started, "I sense a disturbance in the force" style.
Thanks for making this anti-thread retard OP.

>> No.7812121

>>7799278
Ok unironically watch a stream. Like open any stream and watch it.

>> No.7812149

it had nothing to do with creative freedom, She just wanted to become some sort of hybrid Twitch/VTuber streamer.

>> No.7812205

>>7812149
all things considered if she remained as coco she wanted to push boundries but being constantly told "no" by old geezers would have been annoying

But what did you expect her to do as herself, cut pubic hairs on stream again?

>> No.7812228

>>7812205
she's turned into your average twitch streamer, if you like that then go crazy.

>> No.7812231

>>7812149
It's pretty much her personality before Hololive though.

>> No.7812273

>>7786493
>Ame is more creative than her.
Based Ame stays mogging the rest of hololive. The others have had years to experiment on their model and it never even entered their brainlet head.

>> No.7812404

>>7812228
>twitch streamers bad
What exactly makes chuubas better?

>> No.7812411

tummy

>> No.7812435

>hear Kson fucking screaming from Kanata's stream

>> No.7812482

>>7812435
Are you for real

I hopped over to see if this was true but now Kanata's stream is ending

>> No.7812495

I think it loses some of its appeal when it's a real woman making a bunch of goofy exercise faces and not just a rigid anime girl making sex noises. Still fun to watch though.

>> No.7812526

>>7812273
well she had experience in this field, we need more actual nerds to push these boundries

too bad her audience are literal children and she's the tard wrangler

>> No.7812529

so she just wanted to do 3D coomerbait streams for easy money? enjoy.

>> No.7812534

>>7812495
I enjoy watching hilariously out of shape people suffer

>> No.7812537

>>7812482
Kanata wants to watch her too, namsayin?

>> No.7812541

>>7811738
The Zhangs were right about her.

>> No.7812615

>>7812541
That she's hot?

>> No.7812620

>>7811738
Stop living in 2014 fucking /pol/ retards

>> No.7812637

>>7796977
Because Kson stated so before

>> No.7812667

>>7812615
She's a whore.
>>7812620
The 2/10 Asian girl is not going to fuck you.

>> No.7812677

>>7811738
yes

>> No.7812698

>>7812667
Mmm ping pong ding dong wang wang chong chong.

>> No.7812713

>>7812667
qing chong in chong qing

>> No.7812743

OH SHIT IM CUMMING

>> No.7812745

>>7812667
there is a reason why body builders are willing to fuck whales

it's all subjective, a 2/10 for you is a 8/10 for me, btw your 10/10 is you sucking your own dick cock sucker

>> No.7812764

>>7796904
She's from Atlanta, GA. She even joked about never being shot a few streams ago (a reference to Atlanta's status as one of the most dangerous cities in America).
I don't care that your post is 11 hours old.

>> No.7812783

>>7808948
>being brainwashed because of a shirt

>> No.7812786

>>7812435
bro, you got a timestamp?

>> No.7812803

>>7812786
seconded

>> No.7812806

>>7812667
This is your 10/10 Asian girl zhang?

>> No.7812828

>>7808948
imagine being so lonely in life that you know a JAV actors name

>> No.7812832

>>7812806
kek, FARTIA-CHUANNN

>> No.7812833

>>7812806
newfag who dis?

better be someone of interest

>> No.7812859

>>7812828
>not knowing good jav actors by name

>> No.7812866

>>7812786
Check the coco thread.

>> No.7812869 [SPOILER] 

>>7812833
Really bitch?

>> No.7812881

>>7812828
Shiina Sora is pretty memorable
Also I don't have the memory of a goldfish, it's no harder than remembering actors, authors, athletes etc

>> No.7812888

>>7812828
I know one, her name is 王前野母

>> No.7812909

>>7812806
>>7812745

>> No.7812917

>>7810063
Not that anon but she is straight up hideous without it, she goes from a 8 to a 4 real quick

>> No.7812931

>>7808168
kek I can't believe there are still anons that believe this hahahahah kys

>> No.7812935

>>7812869
yeah the guy under my reply gave it away but jesus I've seen cuter zhangs

It still astounds me how voices don't always match the faces
>>7812909
I don't know who's being mocked harder here

>> No.7812964

Lotta Seething here. Glad Coco is my Oshi

>> No.7812977

>>7812917
that is what makeup does to EVERY woman
hell you can even do it with men if you know how to do male makeup

>> No.7812986

>>7812806
Do yu realy beleeb it?!

>> No.7812998

>>7812806
Why are chinks so much uglier?
Even the pretty ones are uglier than the pretty Japanese. Is it because of years of inbreeding?

>> No.7813007

You're playing Ringfit to keep up with her too, right?

>> No.7813010

>>7808146
basement dwelling fag lmao

>> No.7813023

>>7812964

>> No.7813035

>>7812888
Hard kek, thank you

>> No.7813037

>>7813007
No, too busy baiting cocofags

>> No.7813059

>>7786285
>>has done nothing creative since graduating
idk if you're shitposting or serious here, but she cannot go from one persona into the other directly and continue on as normal you idiot. she has to rebuild back up into a normal, regular and established persona. there's a reason she's not doing 5000 collabs despite every chuuba in the world likely dm'ing her to ask, and it's for the same reason as not doing anything out of the norm. she has to avoid all that shit for x amount of time before she can do it

>> No.7813095

>>7813059
>she has to
Does she now? Why not strike the iron while it's hot?

>> No.7813101

makeup asside
she is only 22 and already had a bad case of "Chinese moustache" (the two diagonal lines around the mouth that point up to the nose), I know it is more noticeable in Asians, but damn, you can easily reduce that by doing proper skincare and shit

>> No.7813115

>>7813101
who's got time to do that when you can just cake your face

>> No.7813120

>Someone criticizes Coco
Uhhhh... ching ping ming xin pinping uhhh you're chinese

>> No.7813125

>>7813101
Anon, you idiot, she's been 22 for a while.

>> No.7813143

>>7813095
probably a non-compeat agreement upon leaving hololive
I mean, it would be stupid of Cover to not have her sign one and an NDA while terminating her contract with them

>> No.7813146

>>7813101
>she is only 22
Here's your (you)

>> No.7813152

>>7813120
ni hao

>> No.7813159

>>7813120
>criticism
this thread is 90% slander

>> No.7813163

>>7813125
>>7813146
I honestly did not know she lied her age in the game

I feel dumb now, how old is she really then?

>> No.7813164

She at least shouldn't have to shit her pants to not mention sex, cuz holofags

>> No.7813178

>>7813059
She said she will doing collabs after her model is finish but before that is done is either 3d women or shitty 2d solo streams.

>> No.7813183

>>7813163
more or less +9

>> No.7813184

>>7813120
你好兄弟你淹死了吗?

>> No.7813200

>>7813163
C'mon anon, most people wouldn't have two bachelor degrees and have many years of work experience at age 22.

>> No.7813213

>>7786285
I bet what she meant with being creative and more freedom is opening a onlyfans account

>> No.7813235

>>7786726
Based. Gonna post this on my discord

>> No.7813236

>>7813184
>When you're not obsessed but you study chinese for years just to defend Coco
Pathetic

>> No.7813259

>>7813213
onlyfans isn't only about posting your ass on it, that's just what it's become

I totally see her posting her cosplays on it but if she charges for those we'll never hear the end of it

>> No.7813456

goddamn the power of parasocial is too strong

if I saw this stream a year ago I wouldn't even think twice. now my internal monologue is screaming HAG TUMMY UAAHHH SEEEEEEXXXXXXX and I can think of nothing I want in life more than to impregnate this random hafu puppeteer lady

>> No.7813490

>>7813213
I wish

>> No.7813491

Im already getting tons of recs of kson clips showing off her boobs talking about how shes not wearing a bra and penis and shit. kiryu nignig

>> No.7813493

>>7813456
H A G
A
G

W O M B
O
M
B

>> No.7813497

>>7813456
>hag
What's the cutoff for that again? 14?

>> No.7813508

She might die doing Ring Fit.

>> No.7813523

>>7813497
i'm not british or a libertarian so my definition is 30

>> No.7813571

>>7813456
I never imagined a year ago that I would be watching a "twitch thot" let alone be entertained by anyone that streams. This vtuber shit is one hell of a fuckin drug. I at least cope by letting coco be the only streamer I watch that isnt a vtuber

>> No.7813573

>>7786493
Why are teacucks like this?

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