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>Pre-debut subs higher than Gura
>Design isn't lolibait, so normalfags will be more comfortable watching and shilling her
>Outgoing personality, will make lots of connections and guide herself towards success like Ollie
>Already treated as the "leader" of her gen, being pushed to success by Cover
TICK
TOCK

>> No.8144410

>>8144300
only thing that can ruin it is if her voice is absolute shit

>> No.8144554

>>8144300
Gura killer

>> No.8144640

>Pre-debut subs higher than Gura
Only cause of the path Gura paved for her.

>> No.8144682

>>8144640
And Gura's paved by Fubuki Miko and Korone

>> No.8144694

>>8144300
>Inb4 similar yab to Ollie-Yubi and /vt/ turns on their Rrat

>> No.8144718

>>8144300
I'm going to laugh at all you fags when she has a kiara voice

>> No.8144724

I stand with Pope Gura V

>> No.8144739

>>8144300
don't forget she can also speak japansese. that alone already open up a lot of collab potentials.

>> No.8144740

>>8144694
Too late. I dumped her the moment she opened her mouth. Happens all the time. Many such cases.

>> No.8144771

>>8144300
>Pre-debut subs higher than Gura
is space Gura killer too?
sasuga gyaru!

>> No.8144778

>>8144739
>japansese
fuck this retarded keyboard

>> No.8144786

Don't you guys get tired of these imaginary rivalries?

>> No.8144799
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>>8144300
>>8098754

>> No.8144805

she's also confirmed British or Australian based on kiara's reaction to her voice

>> No.8144851

>>8144799
I see nothing wrong with that. Fair competition.

>> No.8144884

How exactly did Gura get so popular anyway? Can that shit even be replicated or was it just random chance that made the algorithm choose her?

>> No.8144898

>>8142863
get new material

>> No.8144968
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>>8144300
>design isn't loli bait
But she still seems like a little girl, just with tits and scanty clothes.
Gura is unironically family friendler, even if she retweets uohhh ToT fan art

Little girl with tits dressed like a escort < Little girl with a little girl body , dressed like a little girl.

>> No.8144975

>>8144884
Meme loli design and voice

>> No.8145007

>>8144884
It was during the pandemic vtuber bubble.
No it can't be replicated, vtubers are already plateauing due to being oversaturated now

For every vtuber that has over 100 concurrent viewers, there are literally 1000 vtweeters and girls who stream to chatbots

>> No.8145030

>Anya becomes true loli
>gets 17k live viewers first stream
And you fucking retards think loli is a debuff how?

>> No.8145059

>>8144300
She'll be an obnoxious bitch and /vt/ will turn on her in a week.
>SADX2

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>>8144300
>>Already treated as the "leader" of her gen

>> No.8145108

>>8144682
JP whores had nothing to do with Gura's success. It's all her without all the giants' shoulders bs and it can be easily proven because chumbuds don't watch other holos. Hell they didn't even know who Ame was until she appeared on her channel.

>> No.8145135

>>8145071
To be fair so was Calli

>> No.8145142

>>8144975
lol

>> No.8145201

>>8145142
I said nothing incorrect.

>> No.8145250

>>8145108
Without the success of JP main branch there would be no EN or Gura at all you delusional pedophile maggot.

>> No.8145303

>>8145250
Without the success of Gura you wouldn't be here your tourist newfag.

>> No.8145313

>>8145250
You will never be gura, nyanners

>> No.8145334

I feel bad for rratt girl's future reception in this board, because once she settles down a bit and obviously doesn't end up being a gura killer she will receive massive amounts of shit for that, when it isn't even her fault but retards like OP's for trying to push that so hard.

>> No.8145338

>Design isn't lolibait, so normalfags will be more comfortable watching and shilling her
Not true. They may be saying otherwise but they watch Gura because she looks and acts like a child.

>> No.8145362

>>8145108
Based chumbud

>> No.8145446

>>8145334
Only by the people who made the Gura killer threads in the first place.
They play every angle because its all rage bait.

Nobody will ever beat Gura and thats a fact anyone who thinks otherwise is literally retarded and should be culled from society for being too retarded.

>> No.8145502

>>8145303
>BTFO, empty retorts, zero arguments
Classic, now suck my cock

>> No.8145529

>>8145502
>>BTFO, empty retorts, zero arguments
>BTFO, empty retorts, zero arguments

>> No.8145534

>>8145071
Hololive thought kiara and calli were going to be the leaders of the gen.

>> No.8145629

>>8144300
>lolibait
what the fuck does this even mean
you retards think adding "-bait" to a word makes you sound smarter

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>>8144300
1. If Shark does well, it boosts the market for Rat.
2. If Rat does well, it boosts the market for Shark.
3. Because they are both part of a network called Hololive.

>> No.8145975

Since she's a rat we need skaven memes

>> No.8146009

>>8144410
Don't forget personality

>> No.8146054

Didn't gura had like 200k subs before her debut?

>> No.8146059

>>8145629
no, but you sure sound like a newfag

>> No.8146091
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>>8146054
280k, actually. most of those from her 1.7m roommate account

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>>8146091
How can HER fans know that she's Gura without even hearing her voice for the first time?

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>>8146279
Picrel explains it and is also source for the numbers

>> No.8146460

>>8146279
the HERfags who already watch hololive hear her voice and spread it to HERfags who don't

>> No.8146617

>>8146460
But he's talking about pre-debut and people only knew it was her when she posted her thumbnail which was basically a few hours before her debut, so that makes no sense

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>>8144300
YouTube just removed bots (see pic)

>> No.8146681

>>8146617
I was just cracking a bad, dumb joke because every time they get mentioned, Guras pre-debut subcount increases and so does Sens sub count at the time

>> No.8146743

>>8144300
>Pre-debut subs higher than Gura
But MUCH less than Irys
>Design isn't lolibait, so normalfags will be more comfortable watching and shilling her
But 3+ million children won't watch her, unlike Gura.
>Outgoing personality, will make lots of connections and guide herself towards success like Ollie
Still not seen enough. Each NijiEN were MUCH more outgoing on twitter before their debuts than her.
>Already treated as the "leader" of her gen, being pushed to success by Cover
That's true, but that's only in scope of HoloEN2

>> No.8146815

>>8144786
>Rivalry
This is personal. I want to see the rrat destroy gura, not because I think they are in opposition but simply because its a fucking RRAT. It's a rrat anon, a rrat, why should we exist in a world where we get OGY Chaos Henry pecola and NOT have The ogey rrat vtuber (Official) be the biggest most subs. Theirs no thematic depth to Gura's supremecy, no pathos, kinography, she doesn't even want to be the most subscribed, in fact she hates it. The rrat on the other hand would once and for all establish who really runs this joint, a symbol that reminds the world whose in charge.

>> No.8146834

>>8144300
>Pre-debut subs higher than Gura
Shes not even at half of what Gura had on her pre-debut

>> No.8146859

>8145108
shit bait, hang yourself

>> No.8146873

>>8145338
>Gura
>acts like a child
Fucking what?

>> No.8146875

>>8146834
As I remember, Gura got her 100k only after/during? debut. Rat had 100k already, but dirty slut Susan wiped out some of them.

>> No.8146893

>>8146815
ogey

>> No.8146947

>>8145108
> It's all her
She imported her pl subs, anon.

>> No.8147035

>>8146873
>acts like a child
not him
she is not, But she has very specific manner of speech which resembles it.

>> No.8147046

All these attempts at shitposting that the rrat will replace Gura will be looked back on with ironic fondness. Because It'll all be made irrelevant the moment "Hakoz Baelz" opens her mouth, and has the most annoying as fuck fast-talking high-pitched trying-too-hard dub voice ever

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>>8146875
here's post-debut numbers for EN1

>> No.8147096

>>8147046
Maybe, maybe not. The main point is that it’s pointless because:
1. If Shark does well, it boosts the market for Rat.
2. If Rat does well, it boosts the market for Shark.
3. Because they are both part of a network called Hololive.
4. Companies compete with each other for that market.
5. Holo JP competes with Niji JP.
6. Holo EN competes with Niji EN.

>> No.8147152

>>8147060
These numbers prove what I was saying - Gura got 100k during/after debut, and rat already had this number.

>> No.8147223

>>8147152
well yeah, had. as if we didn't know already that nearly all of youtubes numbers are little more than lies

>> No.8147535

>>8147152
How is that any surprise? Hololive has gotten even more popular since EN1 debuted, so of course their brand is going to garner more pre-debut subs now. Irys had like twice that.

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>>8144786
>Rivalry
Baelz will mog Gura in terms of numbers because it’s inevitable that her numbers will be mogged. It’s Hegelian Dialectics, not personal animosity. How do I explain Hegelian Dialectics basically enough? It’s a philosophical theory, the kind you might encounter if you took the time to do your history reps. The fundamental premise is to envision history as a sequence of “dialectical” conflicts. Each dialectic begins with a proposition, a thesis… which inherently contains, or creates, its opposite – an antithesis. Thesis and anthesis. The conflict is inevitable. But the resolution of the conflict yields something new – a synthesis – eliminating the flaws in each, leaving behind common elements and ideas. What's dialectic between Gura and Baelz? HoloEN wiped the slate clean. Vtubing descended to a level of saturation that effectively set the market back to zero. Gura has all of the problems of a vtuber – extreme Lolibaiting, Tribalism, extensive infighting between fanbase. Just as the old gen, it is natural that a new vtuber would transform Gura into a 2view. Thesis and antithesis. HoloEN 2 is Baelz's Rubicon. Gura's numbers will be eradicated, but the new synthesis will change Baelz as well… from a basically new Vtuber on the block to the new face of HoloEN

>> No.8147851

>>8147738
based and no-meds-pilled.

>> No.8147921

>>8147060
treerrat...

>> No.8147948

Why call her Gura Killer when they're both in the same branch/company? Cant even find someone outside Holo to overtake shark lmao.

>> No.8148009

>>8144799
Looks like a reliable plan.
Shitposters confirmed for high IQ.

>> No.8148130

>>8145071
>chairperson

>> No.8148257

>>8144300
i really find it hard to believe that gura can be dethroned

>> No.8148288

>>8148257
No shit, this is just a bait thread.

>> No.8148362

>>8148257
people said the same about Kizuna AI but here we are, then again it happened because her own company fucked up really bad and knowing how shit Cover is at dealing with anything it is still a possibility

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>>8144300
>Pre-debut subs higher than Gura
Check again

>> No.8148412

>>8146091
She had less than 800K on her roommates account and most of the retards there still had no idea she was Gura even months later. Her channel had be quiet for 9 months by the time Gura debuted.

>> No.8148440

>>8147738
NCR (New Cunny Republic) vs. Chaos' Legion

>> No.8148481

>>8148362
People said that about Kizuna because she was getting 1k subs per month vs Gura's 10k per day.

>> No.8148492

How many Gura killers have you Gura antis promoted already? Ollie, that Niji bitch and Irys. They all failed and so will will rrat whore

>> No.8148510

>>8144300
>>Pre-debut subs higher than Gura
OH NO NO NO

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>>8145108
Chums always wonder why Ame stopped collabing with Gura when it's clearly because you cucks wanted to make her a sidekick to someone less creative and interested in streaming.

>> No.8148640

It's literally all Gura wants, she never wanted to be the most subbed vtuber out there, if Rrat takes over her place Gura couldn't be any more happier for that

>> No.8148654

>>8148523
Ame's latest few collabs were with Gura though.

>> No.8148668

>>8148412
Refer to >>8146681

>> No.8148677

>>8148481
>People said that about Kizuna because she was getting 1k subs per month vs Gura's 10k per day.
Kizuna was bleeding subs after the whole shitshow from the company that tried to split her into a bunch of personalities that no one liked or wanted and a lot of the subs that gura got at that time was because of that

>> No.8148694

>>8148523
Watch streams

>> No.8148766

>>8144300
>SURELY THIS WILL BE THE ONE TO KILL THE SHARK
Why do you fags do this every time, Gura was breaking down because she was so happy to have new friends to play with.
Also, semi-unrelated but this really reminds me of the mmo industry the last 20 years "THIS will be the one that kills wow" when ultimately the only thing that can probably dethrone Gura is Gura herself not bothering to put in any effort.

>> No.8148789

You faggots need to kill yourselves. Fuck to goodness just enjoy something once. Just once.

>> No.8148809

>>8148677
Wasn't the Ai debacle in mid 2019, over an entire year before Gura debuted? Why would those subs jump to Gura

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>>8148654
>>8148694
Are you guys retarded? Can chum's really not be over 12? She's now collabing with Gura AFTER ghosting her for months because she's a million sub'd vtuber who's been recognised as the most creative and dedicated of the gen. If she stuck to collabing with Gura in the early months you braindead chum cucks would be thinking she's Gura's little assistant.

>> No.8148940

>>8148863
Take your meds. I’m sure Ame cares less than your mentally ill ass.

>> No.8149139

>>8148940
concession accepted chumcuck :)

>> No.8149165

>>8145250
>Without the success of JP main branch there would be no EN or Gura
You're right, instead we'd be posting in threads about HER on /jp/
I swear sometimes I think that would be an improvement.

>> No.8149193

>>8148809
>Why would those subs jump to Gura
Because at the end of the day Coco was still japanese, Haato was at her peak australian retardness, Ame wasn't family friend, Ina only did drawing and talking streams and such thing repels EOP like a virgin with a neckbeard and a face full of pimples repels woman, kiara was, and still is, an insufferable numberfag and Mori had the same problem as Ina but pushing out the (ironic) weebs away

>> No.8149869

>>8149193
Ina is still growing though

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>>8148378
I have fresh rrat, it says op sub botted the EN2 just so he could start tribalposting on /vt/

>> No.8150124

>>8149193
I'm questioning the nearly one and a half year delay, not who they subbed to in the end. Especially since Ai did the "old" style of vtubing, as in videos with 3d instead of the "new" live2d streams, I can not see the connection

>> No.8150282

gura can sing both in jap and english thus passively attracts more newcomers
have a huge background, pleasant tone of voice, personality (a ton of clipped moments out there), successful original song, good simplistic design
have a strong points like zatsudan, horror/rythme games but also can do variety type of streams, know a lot of memes (see 1.5m vod views henry stickmin)
there will never be another gura

>> No.8150425

>>8144739
>japansese
Kek you're retarded

>> No.8150626

>>8150282
The fact that I genuinely can’t tell if this is bait or not says a lot

>> No.8150670

>>8150626
It's impossible to tell at this point, I just assume no gura fans ever leave /ggg/ except for global during streams

>> No.8150771

>>8148523
>>8148863
>>8149139
Why are teamates like this?

>> No.8150790

>>8145108
>chumbuds don't watch other holos
Chumcucks don't even watch g*ra at this point.
In a few months she's gonna fall down to 5k live viewers.
Then cover is gonna start pressing her to do something about, she'll start drinking, do one yab after another, then graduate in shame.

>> No.8150891

>>8144739
>japansese
dyxlesia lol

>> No.8150901

>>8150790
Your Oshi sucks.

>> No.8150909

>>8144300
As long as she takes her role as number 1 seriously and not as quick buck for their crippling alcohol. I don't care who it is

>> No.8150960

rrat doesn't have an entertaining post about inviting her fans to kill themselves, so I still support Gura

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>>8150771
>Reply thinking you epically owned me
>I correct your wrong assumptions and leave you shaking with seething anger
>T-Take your meds and just stop harassing me...please...
Can't take it then don't come at the king, cuck.

>> No.8151030

>>8150909
>I want all vtubers to suck my egocentric cock at all times and thank me over and over.

What a loser.

>> No.8152774

>>8150901
My dick.

>> No.8152840

>>8151028
I'm gonna call you the Polcuck poster. Not for now, but for the future threads you'll inevitably avatarfag in.

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>TICK
>TOCK

>> No.8153824

>>8148766
Unironically good analogy.
Kisuna AI also killed herself.

>> No.8153855

>>8144300
>Pre-debut subs higher than Gura
NOT ANYMORE BUD

>> No.8153856

>>8147914
>Pre-debut subs higher than Gura
>Using bots lol

>> No.8154093
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Look at all this generally overdone walls of text filled buckets of bait

>> No.8154105

>>8153855
>>8153856
>chumcuck posting from computer and phone at the same time to defend his oshi
She would be under two million if her bots got removed.

>> No.8154684

>>8145926
1.if shark declining, it boost the market for rats
2.if rats inclining, it decrease the market for shark
3.because they are part of Hololive with "loyal" fans

>> No.8154740

>>8154105
what did she ever do to you?

>> No.8155030

>>8151030
K

>> No.8155312

>>8154105
holy cope

>> No.8155336

>>8154105
pathetic

>> No.8155700

>>8147738
AVE RRAT

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>>8144739

>> No.8156654

>>8144300
>trying to tribalfag
>within the same tribe
faggots like (you) really need to find something constructive to do with (your) time.
>>8145030
>things that don't happen
>to support something that isn't supportable
pathetic.

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>>8145135
>>8145534
I'd rather not imagine the timeline where they actually were the leader(s).

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