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>> No.8147986
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>>8147914
the gap between tan-chan and the rest of her gen is even bigger now.

>> No.8147988

>>8147914
>Sana 10k below everyone else
How do we save her?

>> No.8148025

>>8147914
As opposed to the exact same thing happening to NijiEN only getting like half their subs slashed? K.

>> No.8148028

>>8147914
As I said in the other thread:
It’s because the AI is just making a best guess when it removes a percentage of subs. It does the same for live viewers.

I suspect that Japanese people use mobile more, so YouTube automatically counts all of those views, but after the anti-bot thing, it likely removes many of the PC views. Hence why it seemed to affect the West more than the East from the earlier charts.

>> No.8148048

>>8148025
Sana was like 100k last night, now she's at 60k. Nearly half her subs slashed too.

>> No.8148094

>>8147914
>>8147986
>>8147988
>>8148025
>>8148028
The only REAL measures of a vtuber's fanbase being legitimate and not bots: How consistent their stream views and earnings are. That means vtubers like Marine, Kuzuha, Pekora have true dedicated fans and not bots.

>> No.8148102

>>8148025
Because it affects the West (EN in general) more than the East, but still overall affects both.

>> No.8148128

>>8148094
All 3 you listed is below Rushia

>> No.8148170

>>8148128
She has a smaller fanbase that gives her more money

>> No.8148202

sage goes in all fields

>> No.8148218

>>8148170
how does that make her make her stream views less consistent or lessen her earnings?

>> No.8148236
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Kek

>> No.8148239

>>8148094
JP likely uses mobile more, and YouTube doesn’t remove them. On PC, YouTube guesses a number to remove, much of what isn’t likely justified.

>> No.8148406

>>8147988
Give her model not looking like an OC made in flash dress-up game.
Holy fuck, who even made that thing? Even gyaru themes aside, it's just not good.

>> No.8148559

>>8147914
>botting
>not even irys tier
it's over.

>> No.8148568

>subscribing before they even stream
why

>> No.8148580

>>8147914
30k adblock users... gone...

>> No.8148617

Are them even bots? why would people make 30l+ bots for each channel? It's probably YT fucking shit up with how fast people are subbing right? I remember Irys going up and down like crazy.

>> No.8148673

they will come back at their debuts anyways

>> No.8148725

>>8148617
I highly doubt YouTube can properly distinguish an actual bot from a suspected bot. They probably do some early 60’s police work and throw everyone into the slammer just on hunch alone.

>> No.8148746

>>8148617
Because the AI is not a human, and it doesn’t believe the growth can be real since they didn’t upload anything yet. It’s trying to remove them to see if people re-subscribe.

>> No.8148794

Now everyone is sub 70k and Sana almost 50k again...

>> No.8148840

>>8147914
kek what more proof we need about gura viewbots

>> No.8148869

NUMBERS I NEED THEM

>> No.8148896

>>8148568
why wouldn't you? You literally lose nothing not like you have to pay.

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>>8147914

>> No.8148960

Blame IRyS. Debuting ahead of the others meant she ate all the EN2 hype. By the time the others were announced it was like, "O-oh there was actually more?" and it landed like a lead balloon.

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>>8148869

>> No.8148982

>>8148746
The bot doesn't just unsub accounts at random. It can detect throwaways from usage patterns, creation dates and such

>> No.8149038

>>8148896
For motivation
I want the chuuba to feel excited about growing their channel.

>> No.8149060

>>8147988
Make an SJW campaign on Twitter asking everyone to support her just because she's black and then we'll see a lot of weirdos and crazy women subbing to her.

>> No.8149073

>>8147914
They had legit subs, it's just that Youtube is a piece of shit and thinks they are bots because new accounts getting popular by association with a popular company is unfathomable to Youtube's shitty programming.

>> No.8149084

>>8148967
fauna... i'll save her bros...

>> No.8149095

>>8147914
>Sana subs
Oh no no no no. Here it comes. Can you feel the yab?

>> No.8149105

>>8148960
>trying to find any reason to anti IRyS
Rumao. Just stick to the usual script:
>muh moeshit
>muh Goomby is a better singer
>she doesn’t deserve it!

>> No.8149111

>>8147914
meh the debut streams will put everyone at 200k anyways

>> No.8149130

>>8148746
That didn't happen with IRyS and her subs growth was way faster than anyone in HoloEN Gen 2

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>removes your new oshi's subs

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I'm pretty sure it's youtube being stupid like normal. Fucking Susan.

>> No.8149172

>>8148568
I even smashed the fucking bell so I can get notified when they do stream.

>> No.8149173

>>8149144
AAAAAAIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEE

>> No.8149178

Subbing is for retards anyway when there's holodex

>> No.8149210

>>8148960
Imagine if they did the EN2 announcement, a fakeout ending to the video (think something like a fake "bunch of recommendations" that Youtube always does) and then it starts the VSinger announcement. Hell, they could've snuck little tips about her presence in the other teasers and such, wasted opportunity.

>> No.8149228

>>8148982
I didn’t say it was random, in fact I said the opposite in an earlier post.

>> No.8149232

>>8149156
Nearly everything can be chalked up to gross incompetence on Susan’s part.

>> No.8149265

>>8149130
>That didn't happen with IRyS
Because the AI doesn’t do it for everyone, just as the Twitter AI doesn’t either.

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>>8148967
NOOOOOOOOO THE NUMBERS

>> No.8149494

>>8148967
>14k behind
so this is the power of being a black vtuber...

>> No.8149502

>all these newfags ITT
lmao

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>>8149494
brown/tan*

>> No.8149626

>>8148967
>botting to save the black one
OH NO NO NO NO

>> No.8149680

Imagine how much g*ra would lose if they removed her bots.
At least a million for sure.

>> No.8149736

>>8149680
never happening cuz she sleeps with youtubes higher ups

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>>8149586
Flare is brown. This one is black.

>> No.8149897

>>8149736
Yeah she even had him on stream once.

>> No.8149913
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>>8149741
nah calli is more black than her, but thx for the flare pic

>> No.8149915

>>8149073
This.
Youtube's poorly designed and has screwed over lots of channels with their subs removals.

>> No.8149965

>>8149680
>>8149736
So this the cope they have to deal with my sharky being more popular than anybody they will ever love. Eat it.

>> No.8150011

>>8147914
She needs to get some Ligma on her channel

>> No.8150054

>>8148568

This, its so retarded

>> No.8150080

>>8149965
>more popular
Have you seen her numbers during recent collabs?

>> No.8150157

It's over bros. Vtubing is over.

>> No.8150217

>>8150157
Finally, shit entertainment.

>> No.8150243

>>8150080
No because I don’t care. I do like retards like you being irrationally angry for no reason other than she’s Currently first.

>> No.8150279

>>8149965
>my sharky
said the cuck whilst gura opens her mouth to receive executive cummies

>> No.8150283

>>8150080
>attempting to reason with a cumbud

>> No.8150329

I only subscribed to the hakos since she was the only one that looked a little cute and funny.

>> No.8150403

It took 51 posts for Gura to claim her free headspace in this thread

>> No.8150416

>>8150279
>>8150283
It’s not even parody how fucking ass blasted you guys are at this point. I hope my shark continues to haunt your nightmares. Because it really seems like you guys have nothing better to do.

>> No.8150616

>>8150243
>she’s Currently first
Yeah except that she isn't.
Dead subs and bots don't mean nothing if she's not pulling the numbers.

>> No.8150675

>>8150616
Nobody cares. Just enjoy the entertainment you fucking loser.

>> No.8150678

>>8150416
dead sub shark is dead
cumcuck cope

>> No.8151226

>>8150616
Pekora or Marine are #1. Or Kuzuha. Or Rushia for SC. No EN is close.

>> No.8151305

>>8150416
You are doing a comically bad job of defending her, it’s almost like you are pretending to be her fan just so you can fail satirically.

>> No.8151341

>>8151226
Keep seething

>> No.8151377

>>8151305
If you say so.

>> No.8151538

>>8150403
Antis. What do you expected?

>> No.8151642

>>8148025
Only happened to two of them

>> No.8151740

>aaand gura discussion again

>> No.8151801

>>8151740
loyer gratuit

>> No.8151850

>>8151740
Rent free.

>> No.8151895

>>8149130
Maybe it's because they're a group of channels linking to each other. It looks to the algorithm like a network of bots, which takes priority for removal. The same sub decrease happened to NijiEN.

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>>8151740
Sewa Gratis

its kinda funny tho, seems like real-life mental illness

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>>8150403
I'm glad my sharky rent free in their head, at least finally their brain have a purpose now

>> No.8152139

You know most people usually talk about the things they like about their oshi.
All I ever see chumfucks about is numbers.
Do you guys actually like Gura? Or just follow her cause big numbers.

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>>8152139
I actually like her

>> No.8152258

>>8149144
WATAMAGE YOU FUCK

>> No.8152351
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>>8152139
i actually like gura instead you that hate her just because of her number

>> No.8152356

>>8149144
WATAMAGE HATE

>> No.8152409

>>8149741
Flare is my wife

>> No.8152416

>>8152139
Those that don't talk about numbers usually stick to the split thread.
The rest are either falseflaggers, dramaniggs, easily baited faggots(these are the worst, please stop shitting up threads by taking bait) or those that do like to talk about numbers but also genuine fans.
Thing is Gura's base is big, so all aspects, even the worst, get amplified to the point where it gets really annoying don't it.

>> No.8152434

>>8152139
>Muh chumbud boogeyman
Meanwhile Gura literally does nothing and you faggots keep chanting the death of Gura, fucking miserable faggots

>> No.8152489

>>8152139
>chumfucks
why dont you find some chumbuds IRL and kill him instead?

>> No.8152890

>>8152434
>Meanwhile Gura literally does nothing
Shitty oshi you've got there if she does nothing.
Is she too lazy, or too busy fucking her boyfriend?

>> No.8153156

Did anyone here actually get unsubbed, or is "YouTube AI" just cope?

>> No.8153286

>>8153156
I've never gotten unsubbed before during these purges. Maybe it's just youtube hiding the numbers while they verify the accounts?

>> No.8153351

>>8153286
Yeah that's what it does.

>> No.8153538

>>8150011
Who's Ligma?

>> No.8153572

>>8148094

If Pekora and Marine have 1.5M subs and 30k watch them that means 1,470,000 people aren't "dedicated". In reality only a small percent of accounts subbed to any given youtuber will ever watch their content.

>> No.8153583

>>8153538
STEVE JOBS

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>Nigger has the lowest subs
As it should be, though ideally she shouldn't even exist

>> No.8153732

>>8151895
Seems likely since both Niji EN gens got hit by it but IRyS did not. Back when EN 1 and ID 2 debuted it did not seem to be a "feature" yet.

>> No.8153789

>>8153156
I'm not sure, I noticed this morning that I wasn't subbed to 2 of them. I thought I clicked them all but maybe I messed up or something.

>> No.8153913

>>8153682
Why did the tan girl keeps declining?

>> No.8153942

>>8147914
>Mumei catching up
TICK TOCK RATFUCKERS

>> No.8154058
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Does anyone remember the rankings of EN1 pre-debut?

>> No.8155072

>>8147988
>nigger
>those horrible colored balls that don't mix well with her colors.
>mature looking.
kiara needs to change permanently into her spark outfit and sana needs something better.

>> No.8155112

That's it. I'm going to give Mori a view.

>> No.8155115

>>8147914
Probably some gay automation same as Twitter when they locked out accounts that had "suspicious activity"

>> No.8155180
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>>8147914
Oh I know why. Sana stole all the subs.

>> No.8155231

Why are people forgetting that Youtube slashed like 60k of IRyS' subs just a month ago.

>> No.8155252

>>8155180
Kek

>> No.8155289

Nijibros on the incline. Get fucked Holobronies, none of your whores can beat Lazulight and Obsydia subs

>> No.8155301

>>8155180
lol

>> No.8155404

>>8149144
Watamage did nothing wrong.

>> No.8155408

>>8152139
I see the same from Kuzuha "fans" even though Kuzuha is a good natured guy who doesn't care about that shit.

>> No.8155493
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>>8155180
SHIEEET

>> No.8155535

>>8155231
cause 5 > 1.

>> No.8155710

>>8155231
Cause people have the memory of a goldfish. They'll praise someone for high viewer numbers and shit on them the next day for low ones. Everyone here is a bored drama-numberfag with nothing better to do.

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>>8147988
Fix the eyes and get rid of the ugly hair accessories.

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>>8155180
jej.

You know how the saying goes, anon.

>> No.8156923

>>8155408
No one here actually watches Kuzuha, a male that streams entirely in Japanese. if another Niji passed him that's the one everyone would use for stuff and never mention Kuzuha again.

>> No.8161150

>>8149130
That did happen to IRyS. I remember she lost around 50 or 60k as well.

>> No.8161309

>>8154058
Let's see...I think it was Gura, Ame, Ina, Mori and Kiara. Ame and Ina were pretty neck-to-neck through most of it, and there are times that Ina were the top.
My memory is spotty though, so take it with a grain of salt

>> No.8161312

>>8156885
>black
she's not black though? pretty sure hispanic

>> No.8161561

>>8147914
Thanks for reminding me, I just checked, that whore susan unsubbed me from hakos and anonette. Sundar needs to graduate this bitch already.

>> No.8161617

>>8153732
Not both Niji EN gens. Just Elira and Pomu.

>> No.8161862
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>>8147914
I just checked and youtube unsubscribed me from all of them. Youtube doesn't work properly.

>> No.8161930

>>8148617
they unsub'd me and is the usual account I use everyday

>> No.8162072

>>8154058
On 2020-09-12

Calli
Kiara
Gura
Ina
Ame

Calli was the only one to reach 100k if I recall right.

>> No.8162342

Just went to check and all my subs to them got removed except for owl girl???

>> No.8162605
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>>8152139
I like her ever since she debuted. Back when she didnt have 3 million subs.


Back to the topic, I think its just youtube anti-bot system so they cant receive their silver play buttons.

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>>8147914
Compared to the screenshot OP took about some hours ago, it looks like the subs continue to decrease over time. What is your plan, Susan?

>> No.8162704

>>8155231
Because "people" are starved for drama and shitting on 5 new chuubas for something that everyone knows will happen is such an easy way to farm (you)s on this board.

>> No.8162728

>>8147988
I don't know... what would Michael Jackson do?

>> No.8162748

>>8147914
Where is this new bot rat coming from? Have the baseball season ended or what?

>> No.8162762

>>8162682
what the hell is going on? lol

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>>8152139

>> No.8162811

>>8147914
I normally don't subscribe until I watch their debuts. But since youtube is being gay, I just went and subscribe to all five of them.

>> No.8162822

>>8162762
Transfering sub to nijien. They geting real desperate

>> No.8162889
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>>8152434
>Meanwhile Gura literally does nothing

>> No.8162970

>>8162889
Ayo mr white ?????

>> No.8162978

>>8162762
Youtube bots are confused since the channels got subscribers without uploading anything.

>> No.8162987

>>8162682
Crashing this gen..

>> No.8162994

>>8152139
Please, Chumbuds are the fanbase that love their oshi too much to the point that it was annoying

>> No.8163080

>>8162994
True, if anything the ones most guilty about not watching what they preach are homobeggars.

>> No.8163115

>>8162994
This, Chumbuds are literally obsessed with their oshi

>> No.8163253

>>8152139
>>8152489
It's cumbuds, not chumbuds

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8163304

>>8155289
go fuck yourself

t.gooks

>> No.8163392

>>8162978
didn't happen with irys or gen1 though?

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8163480

TICK TOCK

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8163693

>>8147988
you can't that's how it is, ebony always has less views than other categories in pornhub or xvideos

>> No.8163798

>>8163392
It did.And Gen 1s growth wasn't as extreme before their debut.

>> No.8163864

>>8147988
affirmative action

>> No.8163980

HOLOBOTS BTFO

>> No.8164272

>>8163480
So it's either homegrown or rrats. The house here always wins.

>> No.8167165

>>8148580
What are you even talking about ? My sub didn't get rid of and I use adblock.

>> No.8167280

>>8148236
For having one of the simplest designs, Noname Anonymous is doing very well for herself.

>> No.8167349

>>8167280
I can see her joining my party in an rpg. The others are strange npcs.

>> No.8167503

>>8147914
I subbed yesterday to Sana and I was unsubbed overnight. Fuck you, Susan.

>> No.8167764

>>8153572
>30k
Why are you only counting live views? The vods still get 10x that. There are plenty of dedicated fans who still watch their videos even if they can't catch the streams due to work or timezones.

>> No.8167976

>>8152139
The ones who brag about Gura's numbers are likely the same people who post about every new vtuber being the one who will beat her. It's just blatant falseflagging. Gura herself doesn't even like being so far ahead of everyone because it makes things awkward.

>> No.8168074

Sana's on suicide watch, kek.

>> No.8168153

>>8167764
Still that's 1M-1.2M people who "aren't loyal" on every VOD. Assuming literally no one who isn't subbed ever watches their content or no one ever watches it more than once.

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8168228

>>8147914
What the fuck, I got unsubbed from all of them.

Just subbed again, but why does this happen?

>> No.8168351

>>8147986
Weirdly enough, yt unsubscribed me only from her. Susan, you racist bitch!

>> No.8168417

>>8168228
You displayed "bot-like" behavior. Maybe subbing to all 5 instantly or something like that. You might also be from a region Youtube doesn't expect to sub to channels with this language or a region where botfarms are common.

>> No.8168500

>>8168228
I got unsubbed from everyone but Mumei. Probably becuase I subbed to the others through Mumei's channel tab, but I like to think Youtube is telling me to only watch Mumei.

>> No.8168558

>>8168417
I did go in immediately for the hype, I subscribed the moment their channels were up, I wonder if maybe others that were also going in for the hype like me were seem as bots by Youtube's AI

>> No.8168924

>>8162994
There is no such thing as loving the catshark too much

>> No.8168998

>>8163115
is that wrong?

>> No.8169086

>>8168998
No, you do you

>> No.8169320

>>8147988
If she is Aussie then don't bother. She will graduate soon because they gonna ban Vtuber for unmask and breathing covid through screen.

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8170417

>It's still declining

>> No.8170500

The exact same thing happened to NijiEN and they avoided it in wave 2 by having everyone post a short video before debut. Did Cover just think they're immune to the AI?

>> No.8171165

>>8170500
>does cover even know this happens
is the question that fits their incompetence.

>> No.8171309

>>8168228
>>8168417
>>8168558
>Sana has low subs because people who subbed with their dick minute 1 got kicked as bots

>> No.8171457

>Caring about the subscriber count of a jpeg with a Twitter
>Caring specifically about relative numbers of subs to such accounts
>drawing conclusions from this

We'll see how popular they are when they, you know, exist. When they actually start streaming.

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8171597

I hope Fauna and Sana stay the lowest membered because they're the only ones I'm interested in.

>> No.8171642

>>8148725
you know nothing about the 60s

>> No.8172141

>>8168417
>You displayed "bot-like" behavior.
I don't think this is necessary, their AI is just shit, like a toddler with a shotgun. My youtube account is 13 years old and not even remotely bot-like in behaviour, I still got unsubbed from Kronii.

>> No.8172171

>>8170417
>birdanon will surpass rrat
Only because she's still a blank slate during the hype building phase and hasn't yet spilled her spaghetti. If birb remains a blank slate and turns out to have no personality on debut, she'll probably stall out and fall behind again.

On the other hand, it's also possible that she's savvy enough to be a decent entertainer. Could turn out to be the breakout hit of this gen.

>> No.8172673

>>8170500
>what's the problem, just bow to the AI overlords

>> No.8173024

>>8172673
What do you suggest, smarty pants? Youtube doesn't communicate even with their closest content creators, let alone with japanese e-girl company.
If you're using their platform you have to learn to play by their rules, and Google is lazy so they set up an AI overlord to set the rules.

>> No.8173107

>>8171597
Based

>> No.8173166

>>8150054
So I don't have to fucking go out of my way to find their first stream you retard. After that I can unsub or leave it if I so choose. It literally costs nothing.

>> No.8173305

>>8150054
Dude, usubbing is free and you can do it whenever you want. There is nothing bad in subscribing because you particularly like the design.

>> No.8173620

Sub numbers are one thing but is there reliable way to track fanart? I guess you can use the #Holocouncil hashtag but nobody wants to count every image.

>> No.8173794

>>8150054
I hate to break the news to you anon, but if you pay to subscribe to channels on youtube i believe you are getting scammed.

>> No.8173899

>>8148568
to show interest, if i don't like them i'll show it by unsubscribing, like with Kiara

>> No.8173994

Are people itt really that new on the internet? Bots on the internet has been always an issue on platforms like YouTube with new and hacked accounts spamming comments and for selling subscribers.
Just because 5 people got it legit doesn't mean that the other 100's did, I'm not defending YouTube AI, which is bad, but thinking that a channel with no videos would not trigger the bot detection is beyond retardation.

>> No.8174019

>>8172171
COPE

>> No.8174144

>just checked
>got unsubbed
nice website susan

>> No.8174177

>>8173994
If I remember right, after NijiEN had subs removed when lazulight debuted, they made sure that when obysdia put up their channels, they all uploaded a short animation with the live 2D so it wouldn't trigger youtube's AI. Not that people care about the reasons for it happening, since they just want to discuss meaningless drama.

>> No.8174226

>>8173994
more like they do not fucking know how computers even work

>> No.8174245

>>8148568
notifications anonchaama

>> No.8175181

>>8167976
Actually the people who post that probably don’t like either of them. Hence why they post it.

>> No.8176231

>>8175181
I always found it funny how some of them go and watch shit they don't like, it's like they enjoy being shat on.

>> No.8176256

>>8147988
Don't need to save. She'll be fine. Just enjoy the chuuba.

>> No.8176307

>>8147988
Once she starts to stream the numbers will either increase by a fuckload or steadily rise.

>> No.8176581
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>>8147914
Pandemic ending. People no longer prisoners in their homes. On top of that you have much more EN vtubers to watch today.

No generation is going to repeat EN1 success. Irys is already declining hard.

>> No.8177152

>>8168417
I find that my subs never get removed when this happens, I think it may be because I use my YouTube account often and consistently uploaded videos in the past, therefore, I am not a bot

Sucks for those who just have an account to watch things with, what the hell Susan

>> No.8177474

>>8176581
Why do you gay niggers always say "the pandemic is over" when the topic holoEN declining?

>> No.8178398

>>8149965
>3 million subs
>Not even 15k average live viewers.

>> No.8178516

>>8177474
The reason why HoloEN is popular because of Pandemic. If china didnt release their bats outside of the country then HoloEN is probably as same aa HoloID before pandemic.
Speaking of which a lot of HoloJP boosted in terms of subs and viewers due to pandemic

>> No.8178594

>>8177474
Are you for real? Covid cased the boom for streamers and vtubers. Only blind retards don't see that.

>> No.8178719

>>8147914
Youtube bots are just being bitches, as usual

>> No.8179063 [DELETED] 

>>8147986
I'm unironically a /pol/tard and hate niggers and I don't see what the big deal is about the big titty space girl being brown. It's fucking anime.

>> No.8179097

>>8176581
I've been seeing this cope for over a fucking year now, knock it off faggots and get some new excuses.

>> No.8179152

>>8153732
What are you talking about, IRyS got half her subs trimmed when her YT channel was first revealed.

>> No.8179181

>>8148568
so I'm notified when they start to stream... its way easier than calculating timezones.

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>>8179063

its sort off a meme and its a filter for M'ledditors and twitterniggers trying to spread woke globohomo propaganda here. its politically motivated gatekeeping.

also nigger memes are just really funny.

also god help yagoo if they actually put an unironic nigger in there.

>> No.8179528 [DELETED] 

>>8179360
They tried to do that here? Really?

>> No.8179752 [DELETED] 
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8179752

>>8179528

every board has some undercurrent of leftist subversionists. i was surprised to see it myself when i started posting here, but unfortunately vtubing is has very dominant nonchan centered fanbase.
so spillage from normans and homosexual operators happens more than you might think. you will know it when you see it.

>> No.8180891 [DELETED] 

>>8179528
>>8179752
All me
t.half-jewish leftist “globohomo” supporter

>> No.8180939

is gen 2 confirmed a flop if they don't hit 100k before debut?

>> No.8180983 [DELETED] 

>>8179752
t. rightoid subversionist

>> No.8181023

>>8180939
It just means they are closer to NijiEN and EN1 magic will never be repeated.

>> No.8181067

>>8149741
Flare is yellow

>> No.8181103

If only Cover hadn't severed their ties with China they could engineer another pandemic to save them.

>> No.8181106 [DELETED] 

>>8180891

The absolute state of (((You)))

>> No.8181122

IRyS got a free 200k subs before debut and 500k after being the only one to debut in what, 8 months?
This just proves that you can't push the button and release a new set of gacha characters whenever you want and expect the same result. Even porn addicts gets tired.

>> No.8182982

>>8171642

you're right. also fuck you

>> No.8187644

>>8176581
All this shows is that she picked up a lot of minecraft viewers when she started out. Minecraft viewers will subscribe to people and ONLY watch Minecraft streams, they aren't there for the person playing the game or to follow what else they do, they literally JUST want Minecraft and if they're not playing Minecraft, they'll find someone else to watch that is, and will NEVER be drawn to other types of streams. So I would subtract Minecraft streams and that is her actual average. I really hope she's not feeling any anxiety over it and continues doing what she wants.

>> No.8190142

Just checked. Why the fuck did I get unsubbed?

>> No.8190468

>>8190142
Because you're an NPC and the AI recognized you as a bot

>> No.8191551

>>8190142
There are no videos on the channels, and the Youtube AI comes down hard on subs at random for channels where that happens. It's possible they didn't know about this ahead of time, but there could always be some kind of rule about uploading some kind of placeholder video to prevent that.

>> No.8192075

>>8190142
Do you have an internal monolog?

>> No.8192397

>>8176581
Views on stream vods don't stop growing for a month. Your screenshot doesn't really show anything that can't be explained by that plus random noise.

>> No.8192714
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8192714

Susan struck again.

>> No.8192820

>>8192714 me right now

>>8149156 me 22 hours ago.

>> No.8193045

>>8192714
>it’s real
oh no no NO

>> No.8193096

>>8192714
Oh wow. Did it happen this many times with IRyS?

>> No.8193113

>>8152139
>follow her cause big numbers
this

>> No.8193171

>>8193096
Irys only got the one soft purge, then got them all back when the youtube bot verified the subs, this is a hard purge where it actually unsubs everyone and forces them to resub

>> No.8193173

>>8152139
Shes the most popular so she must be the best content wise. I don't do my research. The second Gura passed Korone I forgot about the dog and started to follow the shark. Can't even name 5 other holos

>> No.8193205

>>8152139
A good chunk of gura's subs are probably normies that saw a handful of clips and then subbed to her but don't actually watch her streams

>> No.8193240

>>8193171
What the fuck caused the different reaction from youtube? Didn't IRyS have more subs before debut?

>> No.8193269

I actually believe there were bots when they took off like 10k subs of each, but over 50k subs starts to see way odd, hows there more bots than people when holos have got even 100k before debut in the past

>> No.8193298

>>8192714
Soon they will be down to zero

>> No.8193329

Has anyone actually been forcefully unsubbed?

>> No.8193339

>>8193240
could be that she had the music video uploaded on her channel but privated right when the account was made, or the other covers since i'm sure they were all produced and waiting to go

>> No.8193347

I have yet to be unsubbed.

>> No.8193354

>>8192714
insanity, 2 purges? what the fuck is youtube's a.i. doing

>> No.8193364

>>8193269
It’s believed that rat would have 150k now, which is probably right for Hololive. YouTube cut it big time.

>> No.8193366

>>8192714
>I'm still subscribed
suck it, virgins

>> No.8193403

This is why you never say “Gura killer”, it’s bad luck.

>> No.8193454

>>8192714
The end of Hololive

>> No.8193460

I'm really glad YouTube is working on important issues like removing "bot" subs instead of working on pointless issues like ensuring that they notify me about community posts on notification-enabled channels.

Fuck you, Susan Wojack.

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>>8147914
oh fuck!
updated*

>> No.8193506

>>8193339
Makes sense. She also briefly streamed before her debut, that's how her intro music was leaked here before the date. Cover should've follow Niji's lead and do shorts before debut at least

>> No.8193528

>>8193460
It's actually intentional, you can only have 3 Youtube notifications happen in a span of 24 hours. It's by design.

>> No.8193544

Why didn't they have a little short or some little skits when they announced them on the 17th to tide people over until their debuts?

>> No.8193551

I got unsubbed from them 3 times already and had to sub again, so it's not just two purges, Youtube is really trying their hardest to not allow these girls to get subs

>> No.8193558

>>8193469
fuck you Susan, Yagoo paid good money for all those subs

>> No.8193585

>>8193506
incompetent company

>> No.8193638

Small Hindi company, कृपया समझे.

>> No.8193648

>>8193469
starting to tick back up again, looks like today's purge is over. Guess it'll repeat tomorrow too until they're all below 30k if the trend continues

>> No.8193682

>>8193648
It'll probably keep happening until they debut and their channels are not empty anymore

>> No.8193779

Why is this gigantic website run so badly, does Google really not have the fucking resources?

>> No.8193912

>>8193779
It's because it is so big. Huge websites like this are run entirely by machine learning and algorithm.

>> No.8193917

>>8193779
what do you mean? this thread clearly shows they have the resources to deal with sub bots

>> No.8194037

>>8193779
Cover could have fixed this by now if they wanted to if they just put something up on the channels. They obviously don't care about the lost subs for now, and probably figure they will get them back later or just don't care about sub numbers.

>> No.8194044
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>>8193648
They are removing exponentially more people each time, because the current rate of growth was 100k a day yet they are only losing subs now.
https://trackholo.live/en/member/?name=hakosbaelz

>> No.8194127

>>8193648
And there will be 150k waiting for the debut streams, which will be cut to 45k as soon as the stream starts. After the stream ends it will have >400k vod views.
At this point we all know youtubes numbers are little more than lies

>> No.8194197

>>8194127
Why is YouTube actively punishing streamers so much anyway?

>> No.8194422

>>8194197
They don't have any videos on their accounts is the most likely reason

>> No.8194533

>>8147914
believe it or not dont really give a shit, but can confirm not only bots removed. saw this thread and went to check and found both my accounts unsubbed, take from this what you will, just here to state a fact

>> No.8194717

>>8192714
HoloID can't stop winning

>> No.8194790

>>8194197
Also, as per the rrats in /numbers/, it seems that all this YouTube fuckery may have been implemented to reign in the KPop stans who were notorios in exploiting YouTube for big numbers (like 1 billion views big).

>> No.8194840

>>8148896
For me it's that I don't want my subs full of shit i won't watch, they will be added if they are more than a cute avatar.

>> No.8194982

>>8194790
It definitely does seem like vtubers are collateral damage in this action. In fact it almost seems like Cover is trying to stay out of google's sight. I mean, Coco literally had to go and fight for herself against them.

>> No.8196330

>>8193269
Youtube is tightening their anti-bot AI now, this just proves holoEN used bots

>> No.8196504
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>>8147914
Designs are overdone and generally not great.

Irys was disappointing.

Honestly they have zero chance of repeating EN1 success.

>> No.8196597

>>8196504
That’s wrong. VTubers like Petra didn’t do bad because of design. What will matter is debut day, because the personality matters most.

As for design, I only thought IRyS was bad.

>> No.8196600

>>8194982
Youtube hates anime characters ever since Elsagate, this isn't new.

>> No.8196667

>>8196597
Good design is a massive buff.

>> No.8196727

Based Youtube deleting braindead companybots.
At least wait for the debuts and then decide to sub or not.

>> No.8196811

>>8196597
IRyS design was bad. She looked good and sounds good in my head when she did an impromptu Collab with Ollie in Minecraft.

>> No.8197847

>>8194533
>both my accounts
Is there any point to multiple accounts other than sub count padding?

>> No.8198331 [DELETED] 

Last I saw was Rat and Owl over 100K.
Did all of them manage to get past 100K before the purge?

>> No.8198727

>>8147914
LOL those where like 100k bots removed, that explains why Hololive has so many subs so fast and have more subs than Nijisanji, when they are a much bigger group.

>> No.8198890

>>8147914
Finally Hololive exposed for their fake youtube "growth". The rest of HoloEN must have used the same scheme and that explains their dead subs.

>> No.8198914

>>8198331
Yeah
https://trackholo.live/en/member/?name=tsukumosana

>> No.8199358

I have been unsubbed without me noticing, fuck you susan.

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8200481

>>8147914
Damn It's getting too based in here aint it

>> No.8200584

>>8149060
SJWs are incapable of supporting things, their only power is to destroy. This wouldn't work.

>> No.8200655

>>8200584
>JWs are incapable of supporting things, their only power is to destroy.
pretty much, they're too focused on lgbt+ representation and things of the sort being perfect so the moment any genuine creator that even so much as has a different opinion from them they instantly turn on the creator.

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>>8198727
Hololive gets a lot of subs because they're popular, particularly in English-speaking countries. They aren't fucking bots, they're real people who are getting unsubbed because Youtube is shit. Stop being a tribalfaggot.

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8201201

>>8200481
you have no room to talk here with your recent yab, monkeyman

>> No.8202782

I'll wait until AFTER the debuts to decide who deserves a sub.
Not sure what this "sub before they even prove they're decent" mentality is.

>> No.8202852

>>8202782
People sub to get notified when they stream, but you are free to withold your oh so valuable subscription.

>> No.8202916

>>8202852
bro the times are RIGHT there they're doing a big relay and everything

>> No.8204952

>>8167280
Simple design is very effective look at gura

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8205575

>>8198727
Low quality bait. Have a pity (You).

>> No.8205780

>>8193469
>a week after reveal
>none of the sub numbers are above NijiEN
DOA, Hololive is done for, the fad is fading away etc. etc.

>> No.8205815

>>8202782
I subbed to all 5 just to make sure I get notifications for the debut. Then I’ll wait for a reason to unsubscribe. It has more impact and helps creates a definitive moment to remember, should I ever reconsider.

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>>8147914

if you got your subscription removed before debut that means you are a literal NPC with no soul.

>> No.8206059

>>8193469
I don't think they brought subs, rather the fans keep making new/fake accounts to sub to them. I can imagine some Brazillian guy making 50 YouTube accounts to sub to their chuuba. Either way, it's fucking pathetic and needs to be addressed, thank god YouTube is stepping in

>> No.8206228

>>8149130
But it did though. Thousands of people were forcibly unsubbed from her on the first couple of days, I think Gura was one of them

>> No.8206265

>>8149060
>introduce her to twitter trannies and globohomo kikes
jesas anon.. i wouldn't even do this to my most hated vtuber but ill keep this one on mind once her /vt/ fanbase annoys me

>> No.8207091

>>8201201
god, imagine a kmr led chuuba company

>> No.8207197
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8207197

Bots Isreal?

>> No.8207229

It wont be a hindrance

>> No.8210870

>>8168417
Sasuga the grand capitalist empire. I guess I'm a bot if I'm not a wagie wagie.

>> No.8211512

>>8206059
Being retarded in here doesn't net you any bonus points.

>> No.8211635

It got even lower lol

>> No.8211649

>youtube removing bot subs
>Gura literally lost not a single sub
NOOOOOOOOOOO MY BOT SUB RRAT NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>> No.8211657

what will your cope be when their debut have more views than subs?

>> No.8212088

>>8197847
NTA but one account for vtubers and one account for shit like AVE and big clive

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ENTER THE NEW NUMBER ONE

>> No.8212215

>>8211649
But Anon...
We ARE the bots, what are you talking about?

>> No.8212311

>>8201174
>Lots of subs
>Gen2 sub still declining so hard
>Not even ESC can help

>> No.8212799

>>8212311
I'm tired really, let's meet at the first week after their debuts, aight?

>> No.8214294

>>8192714
Soon theyll be at 0 again what the fuck

>> No.8214372

Aren’t they debuting next month. This is not a big deal.

>> No.8214417
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8214417

Youtube is like
>huh? why are hundredths of thousands of American accounts subbing to a Japanese channel without content?
and the same can be done to live viewers, the EN's always get 1:1 viewer to like ratio and poll participation, something impossible because that would imply a few things, each mutually exclusive and thus making the irregularities more prominent to anyone with BRAIN
>no one is watching on embedded platforms where you don't have the "LIKE/DISLIKE" feature
aka, watching on Holodex/Jetri and similar platforms with embedded players, specially those with multi-view feature
you could ask the devs of those sites for their concurrent users/visitors and, unless they open the video with the only purpose to like it and continue viewing in the embedded platform, none of those concurrent users are being counted
>no one is watching with a non-browser solution
aka, watching through a local media player like MPV
>every single viewer is watching on a platform that allows to interact in chat with poll features
aka, no one is watching from smartTV, consoles or streaming media players (roku, firestick, appleTV, chrome cast)
>there's not a single viewer watching without a google account (to like a video you need to sign in)
the only way to restrict someone to watch a video is first having it flagged as "mature content" because that would need you to sign in with a "verified" +18 account (unless you are using something that bypasses the check like MPV)

don't believe me? open literally any other live stream, I'll guarantee that NONE of them will have a 1:1 like to viewer ratio

>> No.8214786

>>8214417
this is true, I frequently watch on Holodex, click on the video, watch it normally and at the end I don't even think on opening it on the YT site to like it, something that it's instinctive at this point when I'm watching on my phone, liking and subscribing
I guess I'm a spam viewer with bot-like behavior

>> No.8214818

>>8214372
It's this weekend you fucking idiot.

>> No.8214937

>>8214417
they should upload AT LEAST one video when their channels are released to the public, their 5s fragment from the announcement MV would suffice to generate enough interactions with the channel to at least make the AI feel like there's not enough evidence to discard them as bots

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>>8171457

>> No.8215045

>>8171457
not only that, the BIGGEST example of how popular they are is the recent Gura nendroid, they literally had to re-design their site and their pre-order queue and sales model to allow for a higher batches

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>>8214417
>10 times viewer to like ratio
>I can read every single message in chat
as opposed to a single Gura stream with 10k viewers where even with slow mode enabled is impossible to read, I did the same on twitch, the chat speed on their channels doesn't match their numbers at all

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8215404

>>8150011

>> No.8215531

>>8152139
Singing Sabaton did the job for me alone

>> No.8217464

>>8212799
Yeah, and celebrate HoloEN2' failure

>> No.8217524

>>8217464
anon, their twitter volume of interactions is bigger than the EN nijis combined, the throughput of likes, RT's in their tweets and related hashtag arts metrics are very hard to dismiss...

>> No.8218236

>>8217464
It's actually pointless to "argue" with you, I know you'll keep goalposting until you die.

>> No.8218342

Why is susan being such a bitch!!!??

>> No.8219982

>>8217524
>Twitter
Why not interact on YouTube? Do they even realize their channel is dying because susan being a prick?

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