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>2 days after debut
>Pulling less than 10k live viewers
The absolute state of HoloEN, holy shit. What went wrong?

>> No.8586528

>>8586493
You not being aborted

>> No.8586712

chudbuds stop it!!
It’s guras fault she feels threatened and she just made her fanbase SPREAD RUMORS and unsub!!
Fuck u chudbuds and gura!!

>> No.8586729

>>8586493
>What went wrong
Nepotism and cuckholdry

>> No.8586767

FUCK! Thanks for reminding me Sana is streaming. I'll hop in her stream right away! Love you! *kisses*

>> No.8586854

>>8586493
How do we solve the racism problem in vtubing?

>> No.8586868
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>>8586493
unironically her being tanned. modern day weebs are racist as fuck but hide it under BLM reddit posts.

>> No.8586878

Nepotism only works in Japanese culture where its a suitable workaround for their insane bureaucracy

>> No.8587177

>>8586712
Not a chance! For all the Gura killer threads, I'm releasing my bots to support Gura viewership instead of Sana.

>> No.8587311

>>8586493
I got filtered by the horoscope shit and the game.

>> No.8587401

>>8586493
>What went wrong
This is perfect, all the normalfags with shit taste are flocking to big numbers while the actual talents are having fun with their communities

>> No.8587424

>>8586493
Massive massive design debuff. The retard at cover that approved of Sana's design before debut should be fucking hanged for this mistake.

>> No.8587537

>>8586493
She should have been a loli!

>> No.8587562
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>>8586868
Honestly, I'm sad they didn't go far enough. I wanted a full-on ebony kween like Trinity Infinity voicing her. Not only is she not black, but she's a fucking AUSSIE? Literally could not debuff herself harder if she tried.

>> No.8587593

>>8586493
She's going to be the first EN member to graduate. Screencap this.

>> No.8587771

>>8587562
I find her aussie accent cute.

>> No.8587795
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8587795

If Sana's design is actually a major factor in sub count difference then I can sleep soundly at night knowing that people just have no fucking taste whatsoever

>> No.8587799

>>8587562
Could you imagine the uproar from both sides of the aisle if she was actually a black hardcore weaboo? It'd be endless amounts of people posting black cosplay Yosuke

>> No.8587868
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8587868

>>8586854
problem?

>> No.8587920

8k viewers now...

>> No.8587927

>>8587562
I hope her roommate is an abo to justify her black skinned avatar at least

>> No.8587941

>>8587562
that skin color is fucking amazing, even if sana is a whitey i wouldnt mind her having a model like that.

>> No.8588057

Tbh, I think Sana's design is pretty good but the live2d model is shit. I'll still watch her in my free time.

>> No.8588224

>>8587562
Never watched Trinity but her design is literally fucking perfect I love it so much

>> No.8588459

>>8587795
>kronii mumei and fauna have th3 highest subs
Sleep well anonchama

>> No.8588518
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8588518

>>8588224
You might change your mind after hearing her voice:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZPsipwyb-g

>> No.8588626

>>8586868
Where's the unedited version? I need nips.

>> No.8588834

>>8588518
Nice body, but yeah, that voice is disgusting

>> No.8588930

>>8588518
Jesus christ.....

>> No.8589271

>>8586712
Oddly enough, Sana looked at Gura’s schedule to avoid it now, but Gura ran over her by changing her time last sec.

>> No.8589283

>>8586868
She should clarify that she's not black. She just has dark skin.

>> No.8589324

>>8586729
unironically this

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8589337

>>8586493
hey, better than be these ones

>> No.8589369

>>8586493
unironically i don't want to listen to a fat black woman, sorry

>> No.8589477

>>8589369
But she's not a fat black woman.

>> No.8589589

>>8589369
she’s literally asian. you weirdos need to kill yourself

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8589688

>>8589369
shes an aussie.

>> No.8589770

>>8586493
Her design is so bad that dark skin is somehow the least of her problems IMO. She seems wholesome and I wanted to like her, but it's hard to get past that fucking walmart tier face, subpar rigging, and grating voice.

>> No.8589824

>>8588518
Holy fuck kill me now.

>> No.8589895

>>8586493
thanks for the reminder anon.

>> No.8591222

She's struggling to hold 8k.

>> No.8591351

>>8586868
this

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>>8586493

>> No.8591379

Every gen needs one failure to make the others look better. Don't worry, I'm sure she'll get tons of money from morons who think they're "saving" her.

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8591413

>>8586493
This.

>> No.8592304

>>8586493
Tranny game

>> No.8593955

This is only a Sana issue. Fauna and Mumei had 20k+ watching today.

>> No.8594209

>>8587927
Realistically she is probably a darker skinned SEA

>> No.8594375

>>8591379
>I'm sure she'll get tons of money from morons who think they're "saving" her.
Don't think it's going to happen this time around.

>> No.8594470

>>8594209
If she's Ina's friend wouldn't she be Korean?

>> No.8594487

>>8586493
godamn gura dabbing on her kohai
what is next she is going to target her every time she streams?

>> No.8594559

>>8594470
Are you retarded?

>> No.8594634

>>8586493
Unironically her timeslot. Add onto that Goomba playing a massive buff game and you'll get these numbers. Fauna would have had the same issue.

>> No.8594740

>>8594487
gura likes sana though, she seems to mention her big fat ass at the slightest provocation

>> No.8594843

>>8587562
Yikes

>> No.8594880

>Most SOVL of the EN2 girls
>Numberfags and fake racists attack her
Man, weakest numbers and weakest antis, definitely a plus

>> No.8594901

>>8589369
Based

>> No.8594904

>>8586493
>More than EN1 "OH NO NO"
>Less than EN1 "OH NO NO"

>> No.8594947

>>8594634
Deer and owl went against a full Holomyth collab and still had over 20k viewers for their streams

>> No.8594970

Anyone have an image of her edited to be white? I want to know if i just dont like the design or im actually racist.

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8595014

>>8588518
>black girl sounds like typically black girl

>> No.8595024

>>8594970
bukkake images don't start for at least 2 weeks

>> No.8595059

>>8594947
Owl streamed before them and never overlapped because TTRPG got delayed by nearly 40 minutes. Point taken for Fauna though

>> No.8595178

>>8588518
why do they keep getting mystery meat city coons when they could hire a creole or a jamaican, those accents can be instant boner material

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8595243

>Check out the stream expecting to see a disaster since Celeste is reasonably challenging
>She's actually doing well and learning quickly, a solid stream overall.
How the fuck are her numbers this low, are Vtuber fans really this turned off by delicious brown anime girls?

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>>8586493
to be fair she's competing against a Pomu zatsudan.

>> No.8595394

>>8594947
That Collab was a fucking train wreck, deadbraps on suicide watch seeing Mori shit the bed so badly

>> No.8595413

>>8594947
A full Holomyth collab that wasn't a game for the majority of the stream. The TTRPG streams are fun but they aren't for everybody, which is why I only tuned in once Gartic Phone started up.

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8595426

I actually don't know. This should be the golden time for the west coast but not so much for the aussie.

>> No.8595477

>>8595243
Shark is streaming too.

>> No.8595519

>>8594947
>>8595059
TBF, Deer was playing Spore which is a massive memefest of a game.

>> No.8595684
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>>8586493
would you rather have the great Rosemi, or Sana?

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8596240

>>8588518
Mi just wa wah rasta vtuba bros
Yuh kno wah mi saying

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8596348

Gura feels comfortable to me, the hot brown lady is different

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8596418

>>8595684
Wosemi asmr, not even a question

>> No.8596430

>>8595519
Sana could have picked better games. Celeste is a 2d platformer snorefest. Kronii picked another great game with Super hot. I expect her to do way better than Sana.

>> No.8596840

>>8596430
Celeste is a shit game and bad for viewership since the fad died, but it was amazing for Sana and she has a promising future with hardcore platformers and puzzle games.

>> No.8597148

>>8596840
If she's that good at platforming then boshy or IWBTG or some Kaizo Mario romhack would be a more attractive stream.

>> No.8597353

>>8597148
She's already committed to kusoge, which are 50% kaizos, this is the compromise that management would probably allow her for the safe week 1 content. Never underestimate how out-of-touch the japs are, a lot of them don't even realize there's a decent sized western community for challenge 2d platforming.

>> No.8597876

>>8594843
Cocksucker

>> No.8598452

>>8586493
>almost ten thousand viewers
oh, no! what a tragedy!

>> No.8598530

>>8586493
I want to support all EN girls but she gives me some serious EN Coco vibes and fuck Coco.

>> No.8598604

>>8589337
>better than being fun and having a personality
Why are holobronnies like this?

>> No.8598655

>>8586493
>Game debuff
>Skin debuff
>Accent debuff
>Boyfriend debuff

>> No.8598798

>>8586868
sexy

>> No.8598853

>>8586493
>Be great artist
>Never showcase said talent
There are a lot of better games to show her drawing skills. You need a certain level of following before you play debuff games like Celeste

>> No.8598882

>>8598604
Nijisanji has so much fun and personality that most nijiniggers only follow a few members of their local branch and (maybe) a few overseas, while most people who watch Hololive can name and describe most of the girls in every branch, and maybe even some of the dudes too

>> No.8599115 [DELETED] 

>>8586493
She's the actual only holocouncil who doesn't put on that disgusting nails on a chalkboard gamer girl voice..... But since her design is shit it'll sink her. Sucks.

>> No.8599340

>>8599115
Doesn't matter. She's not going anywhere and she can be a hidden gem to the rest of us.

Why do people act like a Holo's longevity is directly tied to viewership?

In fact, statistically speaking just about every Holo who's graduated were relativity popular compared to their compatriots.

>> No.8599721

The main character in the game is a transsexual.

>> No.8599826

>>8586493
Still more than other company en. We take those.

>> No.8599990 [DELETED] 

>>8599340
I just hate how this will continuously cause cover to hire shitty English dub sounding voice actresses and not actual personalities who seem to love streaming.
Just more pitch shifted attention seekers who are good at flirting money out of lonely dudes pockets. It's pathetic.

>> No.8600285

>>8586712
A toddler has better english than you, ESLchama

>> No.8600788

>>8587927
https://youtu.be/rt2LHE3oeks

>> No.8602534

>>8598655
>Accent debuff
There are people who don't like that accent?

>> No.8608716

>>8602534
The accent filters ESL because they can't understand her.

>> No.8609647

>>8599826
Who, Niji? Because Nyanners and Ironmouse both had over 10k viewers during their peaks tonight on Twitch.

>> No.8610895

T A N L I N E S

>> No.8611251

>>8609647
Yessir.

>> No.8611505

>>8586493
I don't watch her. Had one too many bikes stolen, so I became a racist.

>> No.8612540

>>8596430
>>8596840
>>8597148
>>8597353

Garlic pls
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1250440/Garlic/

>> No.8613131

>>8586493
Gura and Susan keep fucking her over kek

>> No.8617910

>>8602534
Accent doesn't immediately make for an atrractive voice

>> No.8617986

bros is ina talking about Sana here?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AET2QAG00Ws

>> No.8618013

>>8608716
False, I can understand her perfectly.

t. ESL

>> No.8618049 [DELETED] 

I will never understand this.
Sana is trying hard to be entertaining. She actually is at some point, she is trying to get into lore a lot, is actually an otaku and plays games, and obviously goes on 4chan at some point in her life.
And she doesn't have that baggage of being a total bitch and "whore like attitude" Fauna has, yet Fauna has more views because "muh girlfriend experience".

It's sad and is a travesty.
It's still early, but if I were a betting man, and I am, I would go all in on her because she's underperforming based on her value.

>> No.8618059

>>8586493
you forgetting that she got subscriber-nuked twice

>> No.8618060

>>8617986
MEDS, NOW, PLEASE

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>>8617986

>> No.8618155

>>8589688
so she's abo mutt...

>> No.8618250

>>8618049
It's because Fauna has a cuter design
I'm sure as time goes on, Sana will get more views. She currently has the least appealing design, unless you are into dark skinned anime girls, and most people prefer light skinned anime girls.

>> No.8618361

I just can not take them seriously after the mockery haachama made of them, I was already on the fence but after that I just wanna stay away from them... Hell I haven't even heard any of their voices yet, nor do I want to

>> No.8618363

>>8586854
Why would you want to?

>> No.8618533

>>8586493
Her design is just weird: mosquito halo? Dango hairband?

>> No.8618914

Sana is 100% concentrated dopamine for me. I've tried other vtubers. They're cute and I like them, but I never felt that sense of enjoyment until today. If people don't want to embrace Sana then they can miss out. She's wonderful and the whole package, and I don't think it'll bother her in the slightest to be a niche member. She's already carved out a fiercely loyal fandom within 2 streams, not just the honeymoon phase swarms that the others are enjoying. I think once numbers stabilize she'll still be lower but people will watch all of her stuff because she's just so goddamn fun.

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>>8618049
>And she doesn't have that baggage of being a total bitch and "whore like attitude" Fauna has, yet Fauna has more views because "muh girlfriend experience".
first of all abayo namefag
Also ogey. doxxing her about relationships still doesn't prove anything that you type
I don't get the "GFE" thing, because if you had watched her stream there was none of that it was mostly memes. If you're that turned off by being a dramafag you could avoid ASMR like a normal person
Sana's design is mostly the reason people may notbe tuning in,and some tasteless fools with shit taste may dislike her accent
personallly I love Sana
But try not to seethe too hard about someone else pulling numbers. You're as obsessed as you are pathetic

>> No.8619139

>>8618013
ESL here! I can't understand her, so you're wrong too.

>> No.8619143

>>8619073
This anon is correct. Blaming other girls is the opposite of what our oshi would want. She's done nothing but rep Kronii and the others despite the subs and views situation.

>> No.8619209

>>8586868
>>8586493
Got it backward, it's because she's obviously white and voicing a black character, that kind of shit never fly well

>> No.8619243

>>8586854
>>8588518
>/vt/ is turned off by this
This is exactly why black guys don't feel threatened. Not only are you unable to compete, but you're also UNWILLING to compete. This is fucking art, man.

>> No.8619280 [DELETED] 

>>8619073
Isn't that basically confirmed at this point

>If you're that turned off by being a dramafag you could avoid ASMR like a normal person
I do. I don't like it that much. ASMR isn't considered a talent, not is it something you work hard for.

>I don't get the "GFE" thing, because if you had watched her stream there was none of that it was mostly memes.
Well that's what she was, and her stream is too fake for me. She should drop that voice.

>But try not to seethe too hard about someone else pulling numbers. You're as obsessed as you are pathetic
I'm sad Sana isn't pulling any.
But, I'm not particularly worried about it. It'll happen, it takes time. The roles will reverse.

>> No.8619368

>>8619280
>Isn't that basically confirmed at this point
the info wehave isvery scarce aside from the boyfriend bit. I'm yet to see anything else being proven and with the necessary context
>Well that's what she was, and her stream is too fake for me. She should drop that voice.
Every holo does a voice, only a very select few don't. You're letting your bias sway you. Also again, there is no GFE. You inferred that yourself

>> No.8619664

>>8618914
Agreed. Watching the chat during the Celeste stream, I could see people becoming Sanallites in real time. She won them over with her cute attitude and surprising gaming skills

>> No.8619684

>>8619209
She's asian though.

>> No.8619801 [DELETED] 

>>8619368
It is inferred and that is her fault with her voice and ASMR and the way she talks, not mine.

>the info wehave isvery scarce aside from the boyfriend bit. I'm yet to see anything else being proven and with the necessary context
It's basically confirmed at this point. She's even trying to conceal it.
It's Ame all over again. I remember when it got so bad one person from /vt/ tattled to her about these threads and told her to delete everything, which she did.

Ame proved herself over the year though, she's entertaining.

>> No.8619842

>>8598604
All of that is subjective human judgement. Cold numbers are the only truth of the world.

>> No.8620006

>>8619842
You are in a wrong thread sucker.
But yeah, all HoloEN are completely bland and boring. If not for cult of retarded faggots, they would have much less views than NijiEN.

>> No.8620557

>>8586493
>Australian accent (I'm Kiwi and even I can't bloody understand her sometimes)
>Shitty modelled face
Everyone watching is just there out of curiosity or pity. If she was indie with this model and accent, she wouldn't even pull 10 viewers after a year.

>> No.8621269

>>8587562
I wonder what they fed the dog to shit out such a humongous turd in a maid uniform

>> No.8621277

>>8586493
It's pretty simple OP. Dark skin is only acceptable when it belongs to a delicious brown elf such as Flare. Celeste however has no elf ears so she just ends up looking like a nigger. This forever dooms her to being the least popular member of EN2. I honestly feel sorry for her. Imagine getting accepted by Cover, thinking it'll be your big break, but then they give you the worst possible debuff. Not even huge tiddy buff can offset it.

>> No.8621303

>>8586729
>nepotism
Ask how I know you’re on summer vacation.

>> No.8621356

>Tens of thousands of people automatically unsubscribed by Youtube for no reason
>Stream views suffer
Shocking

>> No.8621367

>>8586493
>The absolute state of HoloEN
what about girl with 32k+ 2 days in a row?
is this" state of HoloEN" too?

>> No.8621410

>>8596430
Kronii’s 12 minutes stream was like watching paint dry. No energy, shit game. She is literally coasting after her 2nd stream.

>> No.8621849

Dilution of viewerbase, anyone?

>> No.8621895

>>8586493
Imagine HoloEN2 viewers after a month from now.

>> No.8621925

>>8621849
Where are those idiots that squealed that "new members will only bring new audience"? What a fucking clowns!

>> No.8626568

>>8586493
Nepotism and cuckholdry

>> No.8626631

>>8587562
Based trinitychad! Support our local gethogal!

>> No.8626652

>>8586493
they all are whores, the first complete whore gen

>> No.8626690

>>8588518
Pure sex!

>> No.8626734

>>8626652
t.deadbrap

>> No.8626746

Market saturation.

>> No.8626764

>>8586493
>boring
simple as

>> No.8626799

>>8626734
I have neve watched that girl, cringekino is not real, I refuse to believe in it, it's just cringe.

>> No.8626823

>>8619243
I literally have a black gf, sana is an asian aussie shit

>> No.8626848

>>8619243
Not even black men want black girls.

>> No.8626871

>>8602534
she is indie tier. but the uninteresting kind

>> No.8626893

>>8626823
> black gf

Gross

>> No.8626978

Her first stream was kinda cringy, her second stream was horoscope related which filters a lot of people, and her third stream is an indie game. I'm not surprised her numbers are lagging behind.

Also her skin is brown.

>> No.8627073

>>8626978
It's almost as if it's just some normalfag woman that was given a $5000+ vtuber avatar

>> No.8627136

>>8619209
yeah, if she talked like a real nigger, her numbers would go through the roof!

>> No.8627208

>>8627073
>$5000+ vtuber avatar
I really hope you're joking and they didn't get charged 5k for this shit

>> No.8627228

>>8619664
Can confirm. Tuned in on a whim she's wonderful

>> No.8627385

Sana's Celeste stream is the only one of the new ones that I've enjoyed

>> No.8627444

>>8619073
Based

>> No.8627505

>>8586493
She'll incline because she's good.

>> No.8627540

>>8586493
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKgypgdaSd0
"You cant just come into hololive and expect all the money and the fame, you have to work hard"
-Takanashi Kiara

>> No.8633272

>>8586493
stop bullying sana

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