Idolfags & Unicorns are Cucks. Prove me wrong

[Anonymous No.]

Nothing more pathetic than deluding to yourself that you have a gf that doesn't even know who you are.

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>>8854091
It's closer than you'll ever get to a girlfriend, OP

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>>8854091
Haachama is cute in all art forms ngl

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>>8854169
No U

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>>8854091
Sure OP. Doing some retard-tier logic gymnastics will surely turn the fact around.

[Anonymous No.]

Honest question

Do idolfags not feel cucked when their oshi spends hours reading the names of other men who superchat her?
Or when they respond to other mens tweets/Fanart?

Is it possible to delude the fact that not only is she your girlfriend that she also isn't the girlfriend of the thousands of other desperate guys in chat, many of which contribute more than you?

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>>8854091
Is there anything more cucked than watching a chuuba for "entertainment"
Not only could you waste your worthless time better by doing something more entertaining instead of watching a girl play a game badly for +2 hours, you're also associated with the rest of the fanbase doing so out of thirst and desperation. This is the cope "entertainment"fags actually delude themselves with.
Surely your fave will not think of you as another cringy, thirsty fa/tg/uy in his mid-thirties like the rest of their fans. No, you're "different" because you don't care if they're fucking chad on the side or not.
Sure, they'll think that and not laugh about your questionable life choices all the same in their discord.
Absolutely pathetic.

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>>8854091
better than retarded faggots who pretend to watch them only for "entertainment".

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>>8854637
Why would they watch someone bad at games or unentertaining?
People like Pekora, Marine, Subaru and Gura get way more viewers than Rushia or Lamy.

If anything it makes it sound like you are aware your chuuba is vastly inferior and your way of coping is "Atleast she pretends to be my girlfriend!"

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>>8854091
Everytime I think I have it bad I come to /vt/ and realize at least I'm not giving free money to someone who doesn't even give a fuck about me

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>>8854804
I actually love chuubas but the cope of "entertainment" fags is getting on my nerves recently. What an absolute emberassment. Shaming people for making themselves vulnerable and exclaiming their love for the medium unironically is pathetic normalfaggotry
>>8855291
I don't watch Lamy nor Rushia.
Nice try deflecting.
You could, for example, just play the games yourself. But no, you watch chuubas because you don't want to feel lonely and enjoy the parasociality of streaming.
If you feel like passively consuming. Then there is a wide variety of liveshows, animation and recorded stuff with way more effort put into it.
So tell me, what is your rationalisation?

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>>8854637
>People that watch Netflix are KEKS
>Not me! OOOH, I gtg. My pretend GF is streaming right now.

Everyone laughs at you faggot.

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>>8855579
sounds like I struck a nerve :v)

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>>8855666
I'm just presenting your argument. Lots of people watch reality tv or GOTs or anime.

Then there are faggots that delude themselves into thinking their anime pillow loves them and Chimp out when that delusion is broken.

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>>8854091
do people honestly and truly think they are their GFs, or is this just a meme?

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>>8855768
Look at home many X chuuba is a whore because they talked to males. They're serious. And they're seriously pathetic.

Yeah chuubas, like video games or anime or tv shows are a form of escapism. But no sane person actually believes the video games or anime or tv shows are real.

[Anonymous No.]

Imagine spending the same time you could spend watching one (or more) of the greatest masterpieces in film history on a girl playing a videogame, talking about her day or singing anime songs, and then saying with a straight face that you're not in any way affected by the parasocial aspect of it.
Put your phone down and go read a book.

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>>8855758
>Lots of people watch reality tv or GOTs or anime.
Yea, as I already said.
>If you feel like passively consuming. Then there is a wide variety of liveshows, animation and recorded stuff with way more effort put into it.
So tell me, why are you here?
Why does anyone watch streamers in the first place?
Companionship would be one of the top reasons if people were honest with themselves.
Friend experience or girlfriend experience. Its all the same pathetic escapism.
I make no distinction regarding patheticness between "entertainment"fags and "idolfags, albeit the idolfag holds the streamer to a higher standard, which I can respect. And just describing idolfags as girlfriend-seekers is as surface-level as it gets and factually not remotely correct.
Sure that plays a part, but Idolfags generally want to follow a storyline of triumph and tragedy, deceit and glory.
They want to follow their chosen girl, see her grow and want to support her on this road through the good, the bad and the ugly. It's unironically a bit like wrestling or idolizing a soccerplayer.
Hololive combines this with the closeness and parasociality of streaming, which makes for a potent poison.

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>>8856059
Biggest deflection of all time. Your source of entertainment is bad therefore I can claim superiority over you.

Anyways the unicorns have hijacked it and made themselves a strawman. Whether someone likes chuubas for entertainment or escapism or parasocial aspect is fine.

The my Waifu is pure and only loves me is forever a cuck mindset and has nothing to do with what defines entertainment. If you legit believe this to the point that you get defensive and possessive over someone you don't know, you are a cuck.

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>>8854091
>>8854464
These claims likely coming from someone who spends a good amount of their own time watching a man have sex with a woman he is sexually attracted to(ie porn). Who is the real cuck?

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>>8854091
Unicorns walked so we can run.
Show some respect.

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>>8856616
Nice strawman. Even so no one cares if a pornstar has sex with another male. But if an idol talks to another male its dramafaggory throughout the forum and people are legit assblasted.

>>8856325
Well we'll just have to agree to disagree. Companionship and possessiveness are different degrees of parasocialism. Waifuism is extremist ideology

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>>8856616
but women in porn are very often only viewed as nothing but sex objects, so men don't have any emotional attachment. when you laugh with your oshi, know her personality, her interests, etc you develop an emotional bond

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>>8856683
Yah, I'm very glad that there are still hololivers who'll oblige to the unicorns standard. Therefore coexistance is theoretically possible as long as certain schools of thought don't stage a hostile takeover within or from outside the company.
It all comes down to covers competency.
So basically we are all fucked, entertainmentfags, idolfags and unicorns alike. Let's enjoy the ride as long as it lasts and call each other cucks in the meantime.

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>>8856487
I don't think it's bad. In fact, I love it. I'm just not delusional to the point of thinking pure entertainment is the reason why I'm choosing it over actual works of art.
Unicorns are retarded, but you're letting your opinion of them cloud your judgment, and picking a fight with people who have nothing to do with that. This whole board seems extremely ignorant of what idols are, and what their fans look for, particularly with how Holo-focused it is.

>>8856325
>And just describing idolfags as girlfriend-seekers is as surface-level as it gets and factually not remotely correct.
I don't get how that took hold among Hololive fans so easily, when some of their top talent in idol activities don't fit that at all, like Suisei. Though I suppose you'd have to actually watch their content, particularly paid concerts, to have a better idea of their idol activities, so the discussion ends up being dominated by rrats.

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>>8857649
Ok maybe you're right, I should've said unicorns and not idolfags.

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>>8854091
I like idolshit but I am NOT a unicorn. I just like seeing girls and boys follow their dreams of performing on stage and doing idolshit songs that makes them happy. It's like watching an actor you like grow up and get better and better roles. Those days that your oshi is up on the stage in her idol outfit alongside her friends and thanking her fans tearfully isn't something you can find in movies though because it's a long journey.

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>>8857649
>and what their fans look for, particularly with how Holo-focused it is.
Honestly that is the most mind-boggling.
I'm convinced some of them don't even realize fully why they enjoy those girls so much in the first place.
Not saying all fans enjoy the idol-aspect, but seeing a thread simultaneously shitting on idolfags while demanding their girls finally get 3D and can do virtual concerts has comedic potential if you think about it.

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>>8855565
Not everyone watching streams do it for parasocial reasons.
I finished ff7 three times already. Do you honestly think it would be more fun to play it a 4th time vs watch Subaru experience it for her first time?
or how about apex. I'm a shit plat player. Do you think I would get more enjoyment soloqueing by myself vs watching a three stack of Master/preds in a highly competitive lobby?
Not to mention there's a novelty of "Anime girls" where I'm always going to pick a 3 stack of Master/pred Anime girls to watch over a random2view on twitch.
Again I'm pretty sure your projecting not everyone watches chuubas who sit around thank superchats while talking to chat about their day. Fairly sure those are the least popular streams for that reason.

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>>8854091
This board isn't ready for this truth.

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>>8854091
>Nothing more pathetic than deluding to yourself that you have a gf that doesn't even know who you are.
There is one thing more pathetic: Posting shitty bait on a vietnamese basket weaving forum.

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>>8854091
>Nothing more pathetic than
yes, giving money to whores who spend it all on condoms for their boyfriends. that is the real cuckery

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>>8854091
true
if I wanted to find flings I'd fire up tinder since hooking up is easy nowadays

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>>8854091
I watch idols *with* my girlfriend

[Anonymous No.]

Something you should probably realize is that anons here aren't serious about being unicorns. You probably have a few that actually care, but most of them are just fishing for (You)s or larping as nips unicorns

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>>8855408
Based. I don’t pay tithe either.

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>>8854091
KYS owlcuck

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>>8855408
everytime I feel down I go on /lgbt/ and /vt/

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>>8854637
>>8854169
>>8854804
>>8856059
>>8856616
>>8874304
Your oshi doesn't have a boyfriend and she's definitely not spending your supacha money for condoms, idolbuta-kun. You're the only person in her mind!

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>>8854091
being a cuck is fine, i love getting cucked.
Thankfully we have a holomen that caters that niche